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Who is George Schwartz?

by snork ( 137 Comments › )
Filed under Crime, Democratic Party, History, Holocaust, Liberal Fascism, Politics, Progressives, Socialism, Tranzis, World War II at September 8th, 2010 - 2:00 pm

Ezra Levant has a blog post here, where he describes a man.

George Schwartz was born in Hungary in 1930 — not the luckiest time and place to be born a Jew.

George’s father Theodore tried to change the family’s fortunes by changing their name to something less Jewish-sounding. It didn’t help. And soon war came.

When the Nazis took total control of Hungary in 1944, the Holocaust followed. In two months, 440,000 Hungarian Jews were deported to death camps.

To survive, George, then a teenager, collaborated with the Nazis.

First he worked for the Judenrat. That was the Jewish council set up by the Nazis to do their dirty work for them. Instead of the Nazis rounding up Jews every day for the trains, they delegated that murderous task to Jews who were willing to do it to survive another day at the expense of their neighbours.

Theodore hatched a better plan for his son. He bribed a non-Jewish official at the agriculture ministry to let George live with him. George helped the official confiscate property from Jews.

By collaborating with the Nazis, George survived the Holocaust. He turned on other Jews to spare himself.

George Schwartz was a Kapo. A very evil man.

Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes asked him that. Was it difficult? “Not at all,” [George] answered.

“No feeling of guilt?” asked Kroft. “No,” said [George]. “There was no sense that I shouldn’t be there. If I wasn’t doing it, somebody else would be taking it away anyhow. Whether I was there or not. So I had no sense of guilt.”

A Nazi would steal the Jews’ property anyways. So why not him?

That moral hollowness has shaped [George's] life. He’s a rabid critic of capitalism, but in 1992 when he saw a chance, he speculated against the British pound, causing it to crash, devastating retirement savings for millions of Britons. [George] pocketed $1.1 billion for himself. If he didn’t do it, someone else would, right?

Pleased to meet you, hope you guessed my name. :evil:

George moved to London after the war and then to New York, where he became a stockbroker. He’s rich now. Forbes magazine says he’s the 35th richest man in the world. Maybe you’ve heard of him. He goes by the name his father invented: George Soros.

Yes, George “Soros” has no regrets about his Kapo years.

In 2002, Soros was convicted of insider trading in France, and fined millions of dollars. He admitted buying the shares, but denied it was a crime.

And that, ladies and gentlemen is the sure sign of a progressive. An amorality built around ego that excuses all acts that are unacceptable for others. That’s what allows an Al Gore to have jets and yachts and mansions, while preaching frugality to the masses. That’s what allows a Michelle Obama to call a country “downright mean” while raping that country’s taxpayers for extravagant vacations.

The hypocrisy of George isn’t that unusual or remarkable. When you can rationalize the small crimes how far is that from rationalizing sending fellow Jews to their deaths?

This is a man who boasted he offered to help his mother commit suicide. Apparently he didn’t see enough death in Hungary.

Soros is a sociopath. But he’s a sociopath with $14 billion, and he likes to spend it on politics.

Politics of the anti-American variety.

Now Soros has turned his attention to Canada.

One of his front groups, called Avaaz, is lobbying to stop Sun Media’s license for a TV news channel. Soros doesn’t know anything about Canada — Avaaz called the Sun newspapers the “Suncor newspapers” — but we’re his latest toy.

Avaaz is sending a petition to Canada’s TV regulator, the CRTC, claiming that thousands of Canadians want to censor the Sun and keep it off the air.

The petition is a fraud — it’s an Internet petition, and anyone can sign anyone else up without their permission. Fake names are permitted, and so are foreign citizens. And the whole campaign is run out of New York.

Do you think Soros should determine what you can watch on TV? Do you think that decision should be made in New York? Is our freedom of speech just another trinket for him to buy and sell?

Hasn’t Soros silenced enough voices in his life?

Fight back.

He has similar designs on the US. Shutting up dissent here will take a little longer, though.

I wish this man slow, painful death, and perpetual torment from his Holocaust victims.

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  1. Silhouette
    1 | September 8, 2010 2:10 pm

    Spread the word to all your family, friends, and acquaitance. Those Progressive insurance commercials are cute, but they fund, I can say without hyperbole, an evil man intent on the downfall of America and freedom.


  2. citizen_q
    2 | September 8, 2010 2:11 pm

    Pure evil.


  3. Formercorpsman
    3 | September 8, 2010 2:11 pm

    Silhouette wrote:

    Spread the word to all your family, friends, and acquaitance. Those Progressive insurance commercials are cute, but they fund, I can say without hyperbole, an evil man intent on the downfall of America and freedom.

    I stopped using them a while ago.


  4. 4 | September 8, 2010 2:12 pm

    Are you serious?
    I never knew any of that!


  5. 5 | September 8, 2010 2:14 pm

    I read this earlier this week. In fact this is what Avaz has put one of our “favorite” leftist authours up to.


  6. coldwarrior
    6 | September 8, 2010 2:17 pm

    @ Formercorpsman:

    me too.


  7. snork
    7 | September 8, 2010 2:19 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:
    What I don’t understand is how regulated your cable is. Your DOT licenses stations, doesn’t it? Do they also require a license for cable?

    This is rapidly becoming moot in the US, because very few people even watch broadcast TV any more, and cable channels don’t need a government license, but regulation of AM radio is still a burning issue, since that’s where all the (primarily conservative) talk is.

    As we migrate to the internet for everything, it’s going to pretty hard for our politicians and activists to resist controlling it.


  8. 8 | September 8, 2010 2:22 pm

    Soros is an evil man. He is a Progressive and had no qualms working with teh Nazis.


  9. snork
    9 | September 8, 2010 2:22 pm

    OT, but Princess Natasha sure has a way with words. From DoD:

    Fuck Allah in the ass with a bacon-fat-smeared chainsaw.


  10. Nevergiveup
    10 | September 8, 2010 2:23 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Soros is an evil man. He is a Progressive and had no qualms working with teh Nazis.

    I am sure the devil has a pineaple waiting for him


  11. Nevergiveup
    11 | September 8, 2010 2:24 pm

    snork wrote:

    OT, but Princess Natasha sure has a way with words. From DoD:

    Fuck Allah in the ass with a bacon-fat-smeared chainsaw.

    Well you hang around an Army barracks for to long and…..


  12. 12 | September 8, 2010 2:24 pm

    @ snork:
    All television channels, and radio stations, are licensed under the CRTC, Canadian Radio-television Telecommunications Commission. They control a lot up here. Including phone service and cell phone service. If it’s broadcast or transmitted they have their fingers in the contract somewhere. Sometimes it’s a good thing, other times not so much. They are also equivalent to your FCC.


  13. 13 | September 8, 2010 2:28 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Yup!


  14. 14 | September 8, 2010 2:30 pm

    In this case: May the Schwartz not be with you


  15. snork
    15 | September 8, 2010 2:32 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:
    What I was getting at is can they stop a cable channel for political reasons? It appears that’s what the issue here is.

    Again, it’s soon going to be moot. The mother of all free press battles all around the world is going to be over the internet, when all TV and radio is streamed.


  16. Guggi
    16 | September 8, 2010 2:32 pm

    I say this is bullsh*t. Soros was never a Kapo. Never. He was “adopted” by a Nazi who robbed the Jews and Soros knew it. But he was a child or teenager respectively.

    Look at the date of birth: 1930 – he was 15 years old when WWII ended.

    Bullsh*t.


  17. snork
    17 | September 8, 2010 2:33 pm

    Scott Madsen wrote:

    In this case: May the Schwartz not be with you

    May the bedbugs eat my Schwartz.


  18. snork
    18 | September 8, 2010 2:34 pm

    @ Guggi:
    The important point is that he has no regrets to this day. The circumstances are a detail if you have no regrets.


  19. 19 | September 8, 2010 2:37 pm

    @ snork:
    I don’t believe so. There are a number of issues at the moment. None of them political. Avaaz, and other moonbats think they will have a say. SunTV will probably not get a license until about about Oct 2011. This is just due to the amount of Category 1 licenses that are available for cable broadcasting.


  20. 20 | September 8, 2010 2:39 pm

    @ Guggi:

    He was still a Nazi sympathizer. That is bad anyway.


  21. Guggi
    21 | September 8, 2010 2:44 pm

    snork wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    The important point is that he has no regrets to this day. The circumstances are a detail if you have no regrets.

    For G~d’s sake, he was much to young and it wasn’t his choice to live with a Nazi. It was his fathers choice and saved his life. He was never in a concentration camp, so how can he be a Kapo ?

    Tell me: what should he have done ? And because so many Holocaust survivers feel guilt because they survived – a very irrational feeling – why has Soros to feel guilt ?


  22. snork
    22 | September 8, 2010 2:46 pm

    @ Guggi:
    That was completely non responsive. I said that the primary issue is his lack of regret or remorse, a theme repeated when he said that he didn’t care that he stole so much money from British retirees.


  23. Guggi
    23 | September 8, 2010 2:46 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Sometimes I could [deleted] you.


  24. Guggi
    24 | September 8, 2010 2:50 pm

    @ snork:

    I said that the primary issue is his lack of regret or remorse, a theme repeated when he said that he didn’t care that he stole so much money from British retirees.

    Sorry, but such is business.


  25. The Osprey
    25 | September 8, 2010 2:51 pm

    Soros is a James Bond villain. All he is missing is the shaved head, the Heidelberg dueling scar, the grey Nehru jacket and the Persian Cat and presto, Ernst Stavro Blofeld. He probably already has an underground lair.


  26. NoThreat2U
    26 | September 8, 2010 2:54 pm

    @ snork:
    Because elbruce’s elmom elblows? LMAO I died when I saw that.


  27. snork
    27 | September 8, 2010 2:55 pm

    Related.


  28. snork
    28 | September 8, 2010 2:56 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Sorry, but such is business.

    Not if you’re going to preach communism.


  29. coldwarrior
    29 | September 8, 2010 2:59 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    @ snork:
    I said that the primary issue is his lack of regret or remorse, a theme repeated when he said that he didn’t care that he stole so much money from British retirees.
    Sorry, but such is business.

    the british central bank was risking the money by having an interest rate mismatch that they were very well aware of (i beleive with germany) and soros called them on it. The british central bank is to blame here, they were lying to the market.

    that is how the currency markets work, thats how central banks are kept honest.

    i still think that sob is a progressive socialist anti-freedom kapo tho that i will not defend.


  30. Alberta Oil Peon
    30 | September 8, 2010 2:59 pm

    @ The Osprey:
    Precisely. Him and Maurice Strong.
    Soros is Goldfinger, and Strong is Blofeld.


  31. 31 | September 8, 2010 3:00 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Soros is funding many of the Totalitarian movemnets in America. He’s an evil man and deserves to be ridiculed.


  32. Guggi
    32 | September 8, 2010 3:01 pm

    snork wrote:

    Guggi wrote:
    Sorry, but such is business.
    Not if you’re going to preach communism.

    Soros as a business man and Soros as a “philosopher” (he always wanted to be a philosopher but he is unable to be one) are two different personalities. A very common phenomenon between lefties, they never practice what they preach.


  33. 33 | September 8, 2010 3:01 pm

    New DOD!

    Manque See, Manque Do!


  34. coldwarrior
    34 | September 8, 2010 3:02 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    New DOD!
    Manque See, Manque Do!

    that copycat bastard!


  35. Guggi
    35 | September 8, 2010 3:03 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    Soros is funding many of the Totalitarian movemnets in America. He’s an evil man and deserves to be ridiculed.

    And he does this sometimes at the instance of the US-government (Ukraine).


  36. 36 | September 8, 2010 3:05 pm

    @ Guggi:

    He’s evil and will be given no respect. The US governmnet should have nothing to do with him.

    He also supports Hizballah as well.


  37. 37 | September 8, 2010 3:06 pm

    @ snork:

    Soros working with Nazis doesn’t shock me. He’s evil and supports evil.


  38. Guggi
    38 | September 8, 2010 3:12 pm

    There is more than one father of the devaluation of the British pound:

    Black Wednesday

    (And to be clear: I abominate Soros).


  39. Formercorpsman
    39 | September 8, 2010 3:13 pm

    @ Guggi: Guggi, I think he incriminates himself in his interviews.

    Yes, guilt by association I can give you that. But to give the benefit of the doubt, and see some of the other things he has done makes it truly difficult to dismiss as having no options.


  40. Guggi
    40 | September 8, 2010 3:14 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ snork:
    Soros working with Nazis doesn’t shock me. He’s evil and supports evil.

    He. didn’t. work. with. Nazis.

    It wasn’t his choice to live with one who saved his life.

    You are disgusting, Rodan.


  41. 41 | September 8, 2010 3:16 pm

    @ Silhouette:

    {Silhouette}

    Long time no see! Did you see this? I don’t know what evil they are hatching, but I am certain we won’t like it.


  42. m
    42 | September 8, 2010 3:18 pm

    @ Guggi:

    If he never did, why does he say he doesn’t regret it?

    “Someone else would have done it”

    And this here is some nerve:

    Soros likened Republicans generally, and the Bush administration in particular, to “the Nazi and communist regimes” in the sense that they are “all engaged in the politics of fear.” “Indeed,” he wrote in 2006, “the Bush administration has been able to improve on the techniques used by the Nazi and Communist propaganda machines by drawing on the innovations of the advertising and marketing industries.” Soros would elaborate on this theme at the January 2007 World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, where he told reporters: “America needs to … go through a certain de-Nazification process.”

    link


  43. 43 | September 8, 2010 3:18 pm

    @ Guggi:

    You are kidding me?!? You can’t be defending this monster? George Soros is one of the most evil men alive. He is a real-life James Bond villian, with all the bells and whistles. Unfortunately, there is no British 00 assassin after him…


  44. 44 | September 8, 2010 3:21 pm

    @ snork:

    She picked the part about the chainsaw up from me! I’m so proud of our little girl…

    :mrgreen:


  45. snork
    45 | September 8, 2010 3:23 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Natasha is a quick study.


  46. Formercorpsman
    46 | September 8, 2010 3:24 pm

    @ m: Unreal. Tell me there is not something pathological with im.


  47. 47 | September 8, 2010 3:25 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    You are kidding me?!? You can’t be defending this monster? George Soros is one of the most evil men alive. He is a real-life James Bond villian, with all the bells and whistles. Unfortunately, there is no British 00 assassin after him…

    If Soros kicked the bucket today, I’d throw a party. This is one rotten son of a bitch whose death would be a blessing to the world.


  48. snork
    48 | September 8, 2010 3:26 pm

    @ m:
    It takes even more chutzpah to try to sound anti-authoritarian (by lumping Nazi and commie together), while supporting the most authoritarian elements in American history (Obama, MoveOn, Moore). A libertarian he isn’t. And it’s chutzpah to pretend to be one. That alone incenses me.


  49. Guggi
    49 | September 8, 2010 3:30 pm

    @ m:

    If he never did, why does he say he doesn’t regret it?

    “Someone else would have done it”

    Because he was forced to help his “fahther” who “adopted” him and who was bribed by Soros’ father to save his life. And he was a teenager !


  50. Guggi
    50 | September 8, 2010 3:32 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    You are kidding me?!? You can’t be defending this monster? George Soros is one of the most evil men alive. He is a real-life James Bond villian, with all the bells and whistles. Unfortunately, there is no British 00 assassin after him…

    Self-righteousness your name is Iron Fist.


  51. 51 | September 8, 2010 3:33 pm

    OT- Something is up with Fidel!

    Fidel Castro says Cuban model no longer works

    (Reuters) – Fidel Castro said Cuba’s economic model no longer works, a U.S.-based journalist reported on Wednesday following interviews with the former president last week.

    Jeffrey Goldberg, a writer for the Atlantic Monthly magazine, wrote in a blog that he asked Castro, 84, if Cuba’s model — Soviet-style communism — was still worth exporting to other countries and he replied, “The Cuban model doesn’t even work for us anymore.”

    The comment appeared to reflect Castro’s agreement, which he also expressed in a column for Cuban media in April, with his younger brother President Raul Castro, who has initiated modest reforms to stimulate Cuba’s troubled economy.


  52. snork
    52 | September 8, 2010 3:34 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    And he was a teenager !

    I don’t know about you, but I knew the difference between right and wrong when I was a teenager.


  53. 53 | September 8, 2010 3:34 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Have you been drinking? Seriously.


  54. coldwarrior
    54 | September 8, 2010 3:34 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    “The Cuban model doesn’t even work for us anymore.”

    !!!


  55. snork
    55 | September 8, 2010 3:34 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Wow. Something’s up, alright.


  56. 56 | September 8, 2010 3:35 pm

    @ Guggi:

    You’re disgusting supporting an vile evil creature like this Nazi collaborator Soros. He also supports Islmaic Terrorists.

    He’s an enabler of evil and I hope he gets the face he desrves.


  57. Guggi
    57 | September 8, 2010 3:35 pm

    PrincessNatasha wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    @ Guggi:
    You are kidding me?!? You can’t be defending this monster? George Soros is one of the most evil men alive. He is a real-life James Bond villian, with all the bells and whistles. Unfortunately, there is no British 00 assassin after him…
    If Soros kicked the bucket today, I’d throw a party. This is one rotten son of a bitch whose death would be a blessing to the world.

    Great, now you have joined Mahathir bin Mohamad.


  58. 58 | September 8, 2010 3:35 pm

    Soros is a vile, hypocritical POS who is most decidedly NOT capitalist.


  59. m
    59 | September 8, 2010 3:36 pm

    @ Guggi:

    “Forced” would leave regret behind (if not regret that you did it since you were FORCED, regret that it happened like that). Forced is against your will. “Someone else would have done it” said YEARS LATER does not give the impression it was against his will.


  60. coldwarrior
    60 | September 8, 2010 3:36 pm

    snork wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Wow. Something’s up, alright.

    this has been an interesting day for castro.


  61. Speranza
    61 | September 8, 2010 3:36 pm

    Soros is such a creep that the day he kicks the bucket a lot of people will make a little holiday in their hearts.


  62. 62 | September 8, 2010 3:36 pm

    @ snork:

    You are spot on! It would be like saying me being a Teenager was an excuse for being in the Latin Kings. Please, people make descisions as teenages and now what they are doing!


  63. 63 | September 8, 2010 3:37 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Great, now you have joined Mahathir bin Mohamad.

    Not at all. Hating evil is not wrong. Wishing for an evil person to die is not wrong.


  64. Guggi
    64 | September 8, 2010 3:38 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    You’re disgusting supporting an vile evil creature like this Nazi collaborator Soros. He also supports Islmaic Terrorists.
    He’s an enabler of evil and I hope he gets the face he desrves.

    Stfu, yoi don’t know what you’re speaking about.


  65. 65 | September 8, 2010 3:38 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    @ Guggi:
    You are kidding me?!? You can’t be defending this monster? George Soros is one of the most evil men alive. He is a real-life James Bond villian, with all the bells and whistles. Unfortunately, there is no British 00 assassin after him…
    Self-righteousness your name is Guggi.

    No, it would be you, so I fixed it for you.


  66. 66 | September 8, 2010 3:38 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Something is wrong with Castro. That is two things he has gotten right today. He hasn’t gotten anything right in Decades, if ever…


  67. coldwarrior
    67 | September 8, 2010 3:38 pm

    are we going to need a fight thread?


  68. Speranza
    68 | September 8, 2010 3:39 pm

    George Soros also is committed to the destruction of Israel. He is some of the money behind J(Jihad) Street.


  69. 69 | September 8, 2010 3:39 pm

    Soros is a scumbag. I don’t give a damn how much money he stole. He is a lowlife POS.


  70. snork
    70 | September 8, 2010 3:39 pm

    Oh, phuq:

    30 Obdicut Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:07:46pm

    re: #25 avanti

    This is where the LGF lefties are supposed to slam Castro’s comments since we are all anti Israel. (according to a few right wing blogs)

    It’s really beautiful seeing this following closely on the heels of the Muslim Imams visiting Holocaust sites and renouncing Holocaust denial.

    It’s a thin strand of hope, but it’s there.

    Let’s all hold hands now and sing…

    We are the world…
    We are the ummah… :roll:


  71. My 2 Cents
    71 | September 8, 2010 3:40 pm

    I agree that George Soros is an evil man. The story of his past is instructive, since it helps us to understand how he became evil, and why he remains evil to this day. Young George, like most teenagers very likely did not fully-understand the implications of his acts, i.e., that his rationalizations at the time did not actually excuse what he was doing, and that he was in fact being cowardly and supporting a great evil. As he grew older and more thoughtful, he would thus have to make a critical choice, to: (A) recognize that what he had done in his youth was indeed an unforgivable sin, and thus he would be forced to live the rest of his life with the awful realization that he in fact was, or at least had been, a truly reprehensible monster; or (B) completely deny (to himself and to others) the unquestionable horror of what he had done, and thereby extend the initial rationalizations into perpetuity. As a man of moral weakness (and he is not unusual in that regard) he chose the latter. For myself, I can actually almost imagine doing (shudder) exactly what he did in his youth — an act which would likely have made me so ashamed of myself later in life that I would quite-possibly have committed suicide to escape from the agony of my remorse. So I can understand that Mr. Soros has desperately clung to his rationalizations, no doubt repeated to himself endlessly over the years, to reassure himself that what he did was not especially evil at all. For him to accept anything otherwise, regardless of the facts, is simply unthinkable to him. In summary, he is now one of the richest men in the world, yet also a pitiful liar to both others and to himself — a man who has done all he can to murder his own soul, so that he need not suffer to hear its accusations. His body lives in luxury, but his soul still lives in Hell. And, if there is such a thing as eternal damnation, it surely (and sadly) awaits for him also.


  72. coldwarrior
    72 | September 8, 2010 3:40 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Something is wrong with Castro. That is two things he has gotten right today. He hasn’t gotten anything right in Decades, if ever…

    and this is beyond the ‘broken clock’ being right twice in a day.


  73. 73 | September 8, 2010 3:40 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    are we going to need a fight thread?

    Nope, just ban Guggi…


  74. 74 | September 8, 2010 3:40 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Something is wrong with Castro. That is two things he has gotten right today. He hasn’t gotten anything right in Decades, if ever…

    I think Castro croaked and someone is filling in for him.


  75. Speranza
    75 | September 8, 2010 3:41 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    are we going to need a fight thread?

    There are a lot of short tempers lately and I really do not like it.


  76. coldwarrior
    76 | September 8, 2010 3:42 pm

    @ My 2 Cents:

    well said.


  77. coldwarrior
    77 | September 8, 2010 3:42 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    are we going to need a fight thread?

    Nope, just ban Guggi…

    really? No.


  78. m
    78 | September 8, 2010 3:42 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I know (I think? I hope!) you’re joking but that’s not funny!


  79. coldwarrior
    79 | September 8, 2010 3:42 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    are we going to need a fight thread?

    There are a lot of short tempers lately and I really do not like it.

    me too.


  80. Speranza
    80 | September 8, 2010 3:43 pm

    Silhouette wrote:

    Those Progressive insurance commercials are cute, but they fund, I can say without hyperbole, an evil man intent on the downfall of America and freedom.

    I always found that actress (Stephanie Courtney) who plays “Flo” (the one with the face like a lollipop) to be annoying as all hell.


  81. 81 | September 8, 2010 3:43 pm

    PrincessNatasha wrote:

    I think Castro croaked and someone is filling in for him

    Shades of “Moon Over Parador”?


  82. lobo91
    82 | September 8, 2010 3:43 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    “The Cuban model doesn’t even work for us anymore.”
    !!!

    My only question is, when did it “work” for Cuba?

    I must have missed that…


  83. Speranza
    83 | September 8, 2010 3:44 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    I don’t mind vigorous or even passionate debate but to hurl ad hominems is a big bowl of wrong.


  84. snork
    84 | September 8, 2010 3:44 pm

    Equivalence, LFG style:

    82 darthstar Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:39:01pm

    Fidel Castro tried hyperbolic rhetoric and isolationist policy for 50 years, and after a near death experience finally is ready to admit it wasn’t a good idea, and that it doesn’t work very well. Ahmadinejad might do well to listen to him.
    So could the GOP for that matter.


  85. coldwarrior
    85 | September 8, 2010 3:44 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Rodan wrote:
    “The Cuban model doesn’t even work for us anymore.”
    !!!
    My only question is, when did it “work” for Cuba?
    I must have missed that…

    well…wayyy back in very early 1961 it was working, for a few days.


  86. coldwarrior
    86 | September 8, 2010 3:45 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I don’t mind vigorous or even passionate debate but to hurl ad hominems is a big bowl of wrong.

    i know…we had a real long discussion about just that topic right there last week or so…


  87. Speranza
    87 | September 8, 2010 3:45 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Nope, just ban Guggi…

    hell no! People should just be civil or just GAZE over each other. We are interested in increasing posters and traffic not lowering the number.


  88. 88 | September 8, 2010 3:46 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    My only question is, when did it “work” for Cuba?

    I must have missed that…

    When they were getting support payments from the Soviet Bloc.


  89. coldwarrior
    89 | September 8, 2010 3:47 pm

    @ Speranza:

    just a little civility would go a very long way around here. half the time i dread to log in out of fear of what i might see.


  90. snork
    90 | September 8, 2010 3:47 pm

    Dorain’s just being his regular Mr. Crankypants self. Just throw a brink at him.


  91. coldwarrior
    91 | September 8, 2010 3:48 pm

    snork wrote:

    Mr. Crankypants

    :lol:

    is that like mr potatohead?


  92. 92 | September 8, 2010 3:48 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Castro’s parents are Galician Spaniards. I think he’s going back to his roots of hating Islam. Plus he probably realizes he fucked up.


  93. Speranza
    93 | September 8, 2010 3:48 pm

    snork wrote:

    Equivalence, LFG style:
    82 darthstar Wed, Sep 8, 2010 12:39:01pm
    Fidel Castro tried hyperbolic rhetoric and isolationist policy for 50 years, and after a near death experience finally is ready to admit it wasn’t a good idea, and that it doesn’t work very well. Ahmadinejad might do well to listen to him.
    So could the GOP for that matter.

    They really are stuck on stupid over there aren’t they?


  94. coldwarrior
    94 | September 8, 2010 3:48 pm

    bbl i gotta get some work done


  95. snork
    95 | September 8, 2010 3:48 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Speranza:

    just a little civility would go a very long way around here. half the time i dread to log in out of fear of what i might see.

    Funny. I think that back in the day, Mr. Johnson probably said that to himself more than once.


  96. coldwarrior
    96 | September 8, 2010 3:49 pm

    snork wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    just a little civility would go a very long way around here. half the time i dread to log in out of fear of what i might see.

    Funny. I think that back in the day, Mr. Johnson probably said that to himself more than once.

    yeah…he prolly did.


  97. 97 | September 8, 2010 3:49 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    He. didn’t. work. with. Nazis.

    From the Sixty Minutes interview.

    KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

    Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

    KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

    Mr. SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.

    KROFT: I mean, that’s–that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

    Mr. SOROS: Not–not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t–you don’t see the connection. But it was–it created no–no problem at all.

    KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

    Mr. SOROS: No.

    I don’t think he was dragged along.


  98. Speranza
    98 | September 8, 2010 3:49 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Castro’s parents are Galician Spaniards. I think he’s going back to his roots of hating Islam

    I doubt he thinks in those terms.


  99. Speranza
    99 | September 8, 2010 3:51 pm

    @ Rancher:
    He worked with the Hungarian fascist Arrow Cross Party (lead by Ferenc Szalasi), actually he and his “adopted father” did de facto work for them.


  100. chickadee
    100 | September 8, 2010 3:51 pm

    soros is a maniacal, destructive, evil man.
    It is not possible to rationally defend this person, in any way.


  101. 101 | September 8, 2010 3:51 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Yes I do know what I speak. Soros seeks to destroy America and helped give us Ovama. He seeks to destroy Israel and supports the Islamists. The fact he helped Nazis is no shocker.

    Are you claiming Soros is a good man?


  102. 102 | September 8, 2010 3:55 pm

    Cuban eco model a failure!

    What’s next, opening the border and setting cubans free?

    Wouldn’t put it past them to up our immigration debate ante by putting more heat on our near boiling over social policy debate.

    Most of us would welcome cuban ‘refugees’ with open arms causing the question to arise, why not Mexico too while we’re at it?

    Plots whithin plots, no tinfoil needed.

    Remember how fast the east bloc came apart.


  103. 103 | September 8, 2010 3:56 pm

    @ Speranza:

    People go back to their roots. WHo knows what this is about. But something is afoot in Havana.


  104. chickadee
    104 | September 8, 2010 3:59 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Guggi:

    Yes I do know what I speak. Soros seeks to destroy America and helped give us Ovama. He seeks to destroy Israel and supports the Islamists. The fact he helped Nazis is no shocker.

    Are you claiming Soros is a good man?

    soros is the pos behind most of the commie power grabs zero has used to attack America.


  105. Speranza
    105 | September 8, 2010 4:00 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    People go back to their roots. WHo knows what this is about. But something is afoot in Havana.

    He has no Spanish pride. His whole identity is with Latin America and not Espana. Besides his forebears came form Galicia not Extremadura, Castile or Andalusia.


  106. snork
    106 | September 8, 2010 4:00 pm

    Ok, let’s change the subject. Microwave powered rocket:


  107. 107 | September 8, 2010 4:05 pm

    @ Scott Madsen:

    I wonder if the Left now will turn on Castro. Watch Human Righst groups start to attack Cuba.


  108. m
    108 | September 8, 2010 4:05 pm

    @ snork:

    Changing the subject on your own thread ~ yeah we’re flexible! LOL!

    Think you’re having a bad day?


  109. waldensianspirit
    109 | September 8, 2010 4:07 pm

    @ Speranza:
    It is interesting Castro is talking of experiences from young years of 5 and 6. I’ve read that people begin to remember these years again only after getting up in years.


  110. snork
    110 | September 8, 2010 4:07 pm

    @ m:

    Oh ship!!!


  111. Formercorpsman
    111 | September 8, 2010 4:08 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Scott Madsen:
    I wonder if the Left now will turn on Castro. Watch Human Righst groups start to attack Cuba.

    Is that from the other part of the Atlantic piece?


  112. m
    112 | September 8, 2010 4:08 pm

    @ snork:

    LOL!


  113. 113 | September 8, 2010 4:08 pm

    @ PrincessNatasha:

    I like them a lot better than the Old Castro :P


  114. 114 | September 8, 2010 4:08 pm

    @ Speranza:

    No, Castro is Gallego!

    Castro is a Gellego last name. Most Cubans are Gallego, that’s why many of them are very fair skinned. Also one could be proud of being Latin American and proud of having Spanish blood. In fact most Upper Class Latin Americans brag about their Spanish or Italian blood. It’s not contradictory.


  115. 115 | September 8, 2010 4:11 pm

    @ Rodan:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro

    Fidel Alejandro Vittore Castro Ruz was born on a sugar plantation in Birán, near Mayarí, in the modern-day province of Holguín – then a part of the now-defunct Oriente province. He was the third child born to Ángel Castro y Argiz, a Galician immigrant from the impoverished northwest of Spain who became relatively prosperous through work in the sugar industry and successful investing.[13]


  116. snork
    116 | September 8, 2010 4:11 pm

    @ m:
    I mean that gravity thingy really sucks when you point it the wrong way. :evil:


  117. 117 | September 8, 2010 4:12 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:

    That movie was funny!


  118. waldensianspirit
    118 | September 8, 2010 4:13 pm

    @ m:
    wow! forklift thrown at the guy!


  119. 119 | September 8, 2010 4:13 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    snork wrote:
    Mr. Crankypants

    is that like mr potatohead?

    Pretty much, except for the ears and nose all being on the wrong side of my head… m wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I know (I think? I hope!) you’re joking but that’s not funny!

    Of course I’m joking and if you recall my opinion on free speech it was a damned funny joke too.


  120. 120 | September 8, 2010 4:13 pm

    Scott Madsen wrote:

    Remember how fast the east bloc came apart.

    Suggesting we could do the same? The thought had occured to me, too. I don’t like it at all that the Democrats are acting like they never have to face the voters again. WTH is the Senate doing opening up the Gun Control debate now? It has to be to lay the groundwork for something nefarious in the Lame Duck session. That could get dicy real quick. The People won’t put up with that nonsense.


  121. snork
    121 | September 8, 2010 4:14 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Of course I’m joking and if you recall my opinion on free speech it was a damned funny joke too.

    You still deserve the brink you’re getting, though.


  122. Lily
    122 | September 8, 2010 4:15 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    I say this is bullsh*t. Soros was never a Kapo. Never. He was “adopted” by a Nazi who robbed the Jews and Soros knew it. But he was a child or teenager respectively.
    Look at the date of birth: 1930 – he was 15 years old when WWII ended.
    Bullsh*t.

    He may not have been a ‘kapo’ per say….but the evil of the Nazi’s did in deed make him a cruel and heartless person or at least gave it more growth. He has no regret. That simple sentence says it all. Sure if he did this to stay alive..today he would have regret. But no he doesn’t. So at 12, 13, 14 or 15 evil cannot have set into him. I say bulls*t. This man has no qualms about hurting other people…maybe he doesn’t kill them like a serial killer he just does it by defacto ….. taking their money. He is not someone you should defend. He leaves destruction in his path.


  123. snork
    123 | September 8, 2010 4:15 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    The People won’t put up with that nonsense.

    What are we going to do about it for two years?

    It’s going to be a loooooooooong two years.


  124. waldensianspirit
    124 | September 8, 2010 4:16 pm

    California sucks!


  125. 125 | September 8, 2010 4:16 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Watch for the Left to start attacking Cuba’s human rights records.


  126. m
    126 | September 8, 2010 4:16 pm

    @ snork:

    That poor lady that hit the column at :48 ! Bless her heart!!

    BLOOP!

    @ waldensianspirit:

    I’m glad he got out of that room!


  127. m
    127 | September 8, 2010 4:20 pm

    oooh some VDH goodness:

    ‘Like a Dog:’ The Origins of Barack Obama’s Petulance


  128. 129 | September 8, 2010 4:31 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Us too, but I was alluding to Cuba and a human outpouring, such as when the Wall came down nearly overnight


  129. 130 | September 8, 2010 4:34 pm

    @ Scott Madsen:

    Something is up in Havana.


  130. 131 | September 8, 2010 4:45 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Just what the MFM needs to distract from the elections


  131. 132 | September 8, 2010 4:49 pm

    Good site on Soros.


  132. snork
    133 | September 8, 2010 4:55 pm

    @ Rancher:
    Right here, bigger than shit:


  133. 134 | September 8, 2010 4:59 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Scott Madsen:
    Something is up in Havana.

    Hmmm, does this mean I will be able to get a fine Cuban cigar in America finally?


  134. The Osprey
    135 | September 8, 2010 5:47 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    WTH is the Senate doing opening up the Gun Control debate now? It has to be to lay the groundwork for something nefarious in the Lame Duck session. That could get dicy real quick. The People won’t put up with that nonsense.

    What is the Senate discussing with regards to gun control?


  135. Buckeye Abroad
    136 | September 8, 2010 5:50 pm

    24. guggi

    Sorry, but such is business.

    Thats a revealing remark.

    Business is providing goods or services all the while trying to make a healthy rate of return to the shareholders (a.k.a. owners). I’ve been making a career of it, so forgive me for being pedantic.

    Currency speculation is not “business.” It’s gambling.


  136. 137 | September 9, 2010 2:59 pm

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