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Angela Merkel Strikes Back At Dhimmitude

by 1389AD ( 128 Comments › )
Filed under Dhimmitude, Free Speech, Germany at September 10th, 2010 - 9:00 am

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I have been following the issue of cartoon censorship for quite some time, including the persecution of “Mo-toon” cartoonist Kurt Westergaard.

Too many governments and media organizations that should have stood on principle have instead taken the cowardly way out of dhimmitude; in other words, throwing free speech and the truth under the bus for the sake of appeasement of, and capitulation to, Islam.

Thus far, too few people in the public sphere have stood up for Kurt Westergaard and his fellow cartoonists. I am pleased to acknowledge that German Chancellor Angela Merkel has realized that it is her duty as head of state to take a stand for freedom of speech and of the press.

Jihad Watch: Germany: Merkel to speak at event honoring Motoonist Kurt Westergaard

Predictably, “Aiman Mazyek of the Central Council of Muslims in Germany said in a statement: ‘Merkel is honoring the cartoonist who in our view trampled on our Prophet and trampled on all Muslims’.”

Are your prophet and religion really so fragile that one man’s drawing can “trample” them? No, the real issue is a wounded sense of entitlement to be above criticism, ridicule, and satire, all of which are non-negotiable in the Western tradition of free speech. [emphasis mine]

“Merkel to honor Mohammed cartoonist at press award,” by Stephen Brown and Knut Engelmann for Reuters, September 8 (thanks to JG):

(Reuters) – German Chancellor Angela Merkel risked angering Muslims by speaking at an awards ceremony on Wednesday for a Dane whose cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed provoked sometimes violent protests by Muslims five years ago.

The 75-year-old cartoonist Kurt Westergaard, whose drawings of Mohammed that offended Muslims worldwide first appeared in Danish paper Jyllands-Posten in 2005, was due to receive a prize Wednesday evening at a conference on freedom of the press…

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128 Responses to “Angela Merkel Strikes Back At Dhimmitude”
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  1. tunnelrat
    1 | September 10, 2010 9:03 am

    Good morning Blogmocrats.

    And…. FIRST!!!!!!


  2. tunnelrat
    2 | September 10, 2010 9:06 am

    Did anybody watch the Vikings-Saints game last night? Did they spend a lot of time rehashing Katrina before the game? I am getting a little tired of that.


  3. 3 | September 10, 2010 9:11 am

    Good morning.
    I have never understood why drawing a cartoon would lead to death threats. It just makes people not listen to you imo.
    I would much prefer to read a well thought out op ed that explains why there is such an over the top reaction to it.


  4. tunnelrat
    4 | September 10, 2010 9:12 am

    Hello…
    Is anybody home?

    It is a little too soon for this to become a dead thread, LOL


  5. 5 | September 10, 2010 9:13 am

    To expand, the death threats just make we want to take the side of the cartoonist automatically.
    A well thought out column would at least make me look at both sides equally.


  6. 6 | September 10, 2010 9:15 am

    I think that the sickest incident to happen here in Canada was when Ezra Levant was prosecuted in one of our Human Rights Commissions for reprinting the cartoons in his magazine. The HRC’s are a blight upon our legal system up here.


  7. 7 | September 10, 2010 9:17 am

    In America, cartoons can be about any religion.
    We should not allow death threats to stifle free speech.
    It will become a slippery slope imo.
    Just like the mosque and the koran burning.
    Neither one is right.
    But both are allowed in our country.
    Viva la difference!


  8. 8 | September 10, 2010 9:17 am

    I’m here for the moment, but I have to go to a doctor’s appointment, so I can’t stay for the thread. :(


  9. African Moondog
    9 | September 10, 2010 9:17 am

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    I think that the sickest incident to happen here in Canada was when Ezra Levant was prosecuted in one of our Human Rights Commissions for reprinting the cartoons in his magazine. The HRC’s are a blight upon our legal system up here.

    Didn’t Mark Steyn kick their butts?


  10. 10 | September 10, 2010 9:18 am

    @ tunnelrat:

    Katrina was the most awfulest thing that has ever happened in the history of the human race, and it only happened to New Orleans. And it is the rest of the Country’s fault, so we must pay reparations to New Orleans for the next 150 years for the sins of our forefathers. Something like that. Oh, and Ray Nagin was the bestest mayor the Chocolate City ever had, so they re-elected him for his awesome performance during Katrina. It it hadn’t have been for him I don’t know what would have happened…

    Yeah, I’m tired of them milking that old cow, too.


  11. m
    11 | September 10, 2010 9:18 am

    @ PaladinPhil:

    The HRC’s are a blight upon our legal system up here.

    You just made a little green head explode, lol! It’s the truth though. All over the world.


  12. African Moondog
    12 | September 10, 2010 9:19 am

    typicalwhitey wrote:

    In America, cartoons can be about any religion.
    We should not allow death threats to stifle free speech.

    Europe does not have the First Amendment, and I suspect that there is a certain religion that would like to amend that amendment so that it does not apply to them.


  13. rain of lead
    13 | September 10, 2010 9:20 am

    question,
    where do we post our 9-11 stories?
    here in the comments, or the link section, or where?


  14. 14 | September 10, 2010 9:20 am

    @ 1389AD:
    I hope everything turns out ok!


  15. Guggi
    15 | September 10, 2010 9:20 am

    Sarrazin to leave Bundesbank board


  16. 16 | September 10, 2010 9:21 am

    @ African Moondog:
    Ain’t gonna happen.


  17. m
    17 | September 10, 2010 9:22 am

    @ rain of lead:

    We will have a thread Saturday morning that will stay up a bit. Or you can send it to the gmail and we’ll make sure it goes in.


  18. African Moondog
    18 | September 10, 2010 9:23 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Katrina, at last they had something to hang Bush from and did they not just pile it on! Trouble is, the Federal folk on the ground were superb from second one. The new Orleans folk not so much. Still, it was Bush’s fault, not Nagin’s.


  19. coldwarrior
    19 | September 10, 2010 9:24 am

    m wrote:

    @ rain of lead:
    We will have a thread Saturday morning that will stay up a bit. Or you can send it to the gmail and we’ll make sure it goes in.

    @ rain of lead:

    it’ll run from 0800 to noonish saturday


  20. rain of lead
    20 | September 10, 2010 9:24 am

    @ m:

    ok, thanks
    oh, mornin ya’ll


  21. 21 | September 10, 2010 9:25 am

    @ rain of lead:
    Morning rain


  22. tunnelrat
    22 | September 10, 2010 9:25 am

    The bigger issue here is the cowardice displayed by our media. They often accuse Christians of wishing for a Theocracy, yet they turn a blind eye to a violent death cult which has repeatedly stated that it wishes the whole world to be under it’s control. They are afraid to report on Islam in an honest way.


  23. 23 | September 10, 2010 9:27 am

    @ tunnelrat:
    The more people protest, the more I expect that will change.
    Or at least I hope so.


  24. 24 | September 10, 2010 9:29 am

    Interesting


  25. 25 | September 10, 2010 9:30 am

    @ African Moondog:

    Or the Governors. Because the locals aren’t supposed to know their ass from a hole in the ground. But imagine the alternative: Bush federalizes it before the storm comes ashore, and simply takes over for the locals in getting the people out of the city. All hell would have broken lose. Disenfranchising minorities and women, it would have been. A massive userpation of the rights of minorities to self-governance. Bush was damned any way he went on Katrina. Because, um, Bush controls the weather…


  26. 26 | September 10, 2010 9:30 am

    African Moondog wrote:

    Didn’t Mark Steyn kick their butts?

    Yes he did. It was about an excerpt from one of his books that was quoting a muslim imam in Europe. He was accused of hate speech.

    m wrote:

    You just made a little green head explode, lol! It’s the truth though. All over the world.

    Back when they were allowed to vote for Fiskies the CHRC’s were on the list two years running.


  27. 27 | September 10, 2010 9:32 am

    I will say fuck Islam!


  28. 28 | September 10, 2010 9:33 am

    @ PaladinPhil:

    CJRC is a defacto SHaria council. They silence critics of Islam.


  29. 29 | September 10, 2010 9:35 am

    I am waiting for more info to come out about the cause of the gas main leak, explosion, and fire in California.


  30. African Moondog
    30 | September 10, 2010 9:36 am

    @ tunnelrat:
    Thats why they invented the blogosphere!

    Thay threaten mayhem if their Koran is burnt, however when it comes to burning bibles not a beep in protest.

    For the record I think that burning Koran’s is dumb beyond belief. I am opposed to burning burning any literature. Goebbells is not quite my scene.


  31. 31 | September 10, 2010 9:38 am

    African Moondog wrote:

    @ tunnelrat:
    Thats why they invented the blogosphere!
    Thay threaten mayhem if their Koran is burnt, however when it comes to burning bibles not a beep in protest.
    For the record I think that burning Koran’s is dumb beyond belief. I am opposed to burning burning any literature. Goebbells is not quite my scene.

    At least in Florida they are burning books that they own, not books confiscated from anybody else, as the US guvmint did with the Bibles. That’s an important difference.


  32. 32 | September 10, 2010 9:39 am

    The religion of peace


  33. 33 | September 10, 2010 9:40 am

    1389AD wrote:

    African Moondog wrote:
    @ tunnelrat:
    Thats why they invented the blogosphere!
    Thay threaten mayhem if their Koran is burnt, however when it comes to burning bibles not a beep in protest.
    For the record I think that burning Koran’s is dumb beyond belief. I am opposed to burning burning any literature. Goebbells is not quite my scene.
    At least in Florida they are burning books that they own, not books confiscated from anybody else, as the US guvmint did with the Bibles. That’s an important difference.

    What?


  34. African Moondog
    34 | September 10, 2010 9:41 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Bush was damned any way he went on Katrina. Because, um, Bush controls the weather…

    Yes he was. IIRC there were a few nuts at the time accusing him of generating the storm. Others said it was his fault because he refused to sign the Kyoto Protocol. Anderson Cooper said it was his fault because the victims were “all….so black”!

    Poor Bush! He was stuffed which ever way he turned.


  35. African Moondog
    35 | September 10, 2010 9:42 am

    1389AD wrote:

    At least in Florida they are burning books that they own, not books confiscated from anybody else, as the US guvmint did with the Bibles. That’s an important difference

    Huh?


  36. MikeA
    36 | September 10, 2010 9:43 am

    @ 1389AD:

    or as the Saudi’s do on a DAILY basis as you enter the magic kingdom. All bibles are confiscated and destroyed. Can’t have them possibly soiling the land of the pedofile.


  37. Beeduwine
    37 | September 10, 2010 9:44 am

    I am extremely offended by those cartoons.

    They are way too nice.


  38. MikeA
    38 | September 10, 2010 9:45 am

    @ African Moondog:

    Check a previous thread. CNN had a story that bibles published in some Afghan dialects and sent to US soldiers were confiscated and burned due to the possible offense to the always offended.


  39. 39 | September 10, 2010 9:46 am

    @ African Moondog:
    The Bibles confiscated from troops in Afghanistan, because they might be used for ‘proselytizing’ Christianity, which is a violation of Afghan law. I don’t know whether the Bibles were burned per se, but they were destroyed.


  40. 40 | September 10, 2010 9:47 am

    typicalwhitey wrote:

    1389AD wrote:
    African Moondog wrote:
    @ tunnelrat:
    Thats why they invented the blogosphere!
    Thay threaten mayhem if their Koran is burnt, however when it comes to burning bibles not a beep in protest.
    For the record I think that burning Koran’s is dumb beyond belief. I am opposed to burning burning any literature. Goebbells is not quite my scene.
    At least in Florida they are burning books that they own, not books confiscated from anybody else, as the US guvmint did with the Bibles. That’s an important difference.
    What?

    I don’t have time to look for the link right now, but it was posted on an earlier thread someplace.


  41. African Moondog
    41 | September 10, 2010 9:48 am

    MikeA wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    or as the Saudi’s do on a DAILY basis as you enter the magic kingdom. All bibles are confiscated and destroyed. Can’t have them possibly soiling the land of the pedofile.

    I thought that Muslims claim that Christianity and Judaism were part of the make up of Islam, that Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael etc were first and foremost Muslim prophets in their eyes.

    So much for that!


  42. Middle-Earth
    42 | September 10, 2010 9:49 am

    Military burns unsolicited Bibles sent to Afghanistan

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/20/us.military.bibles.burned/index.html


  43. m
    43 | September 10, 2010 9:51 am

    @ 1389AD:

    I didn’t think they were confiscated from the troops. I thought someone sent them (in their language) for proselytizing.


  44. 44 | September 10, 2010 9:53 am

    Rodan wrote:

    CJRC is a defacto SHaria council. They silence critics of Islam.

    Actually that’s just part of it. Anyone with a grievance, and is a perceived minority, can make a suit. Good luck if you are a white male though.


  45. MikeA
    45 | September 10, 2010 9:53 am

    @ African Moondog:

    Thats all PR my friend. They do not care about anything but their fable filled book. Read a book titled Veiled Attrocites. You can find it on Amazon. Gives you a good overview of the fun in the home of Mo the pedofile


  46. waldensianspirit
    46 | September 10, 2010 9:55 am

    @ African Moondog:
    There is a reason he and his family bought a lot of land in Paraguay


  47. citizen_q
    47 | September 10, 2010 9:56 am

    African Moondog wrote:

    MikeA wrote:
    @ 1389AD:
    or as the Saudi’s do on a DAILY basis as you enter the magic kingdom. All bibles are confiscated and destroyed. Can’t have them possibly soiling the land of the pedofile.

    I thought that Muslims claim that Christianity and Judaism were part of the make up of Islam, that Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael etc were first and foremost Muslim prophets in their eyes.
    So much for that!

    It is my understanding that islam views, everyone as muslims. That is why they often refer to converts as reverts. Unbelievers were led away from the truth, ie islam. In order for Jews and Christians to be Jews and Christians, the Jewish and Christian Scriptures as having been willfully changed.


  48. 48 | September 10, 2010 9:57 am

    @ 1389AD:

    The US establishment is anti-Christian.


  49. African Moondog
    49 | September 10, 2010 9:59 am

    @ typicalwhitey:

    Michelle Malkin forgot this

    A historic statue of a wild boar is unlikely to return to Derby’s Arboretum, because it could offend Muslims living nearby. The Florentine Boar stood in the Derby park from 1840 to 1942, when it was beheaded by flying masonry during an air raid. Derby City Council had hoped to replace the statue with an identical replica when plans for a massive overhaul of the park were first considered a decade ago. But following reservations raised by some people in Normanton about a new boar statue, the authority decided to consult with local community leaders.

    At a meeting of the council’s minority ethnic communities advisory committee it was recommended that the boar be replaced with something else because of the strength of feeling among nearby residents as pigs are perceived as offensive creatures by many Muslims.


  50. African Moondog
    50 | September 10, 2010 10:02 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ African Moondog:
    There is a reason he and his family bought a lot of land in Paraguay

    Is there oil in Paraguay?


  51. 51 | September 10, 2010 10:07 am

    typicalwhitey wrote:

    I would much prefer to read a well thought out op ed that explains why there is such an over the top reaction to it.

    The name of the religion is Submission. It has no room for dissent, no room for criticism, and no means of escape. You can’t leave and you certainly can’t blaspheme. If the penalty for just trying to leave, for not submitting, is death, the penalty for actually insulting Islam can be no less.


  52. 52 | September 10, 2010 10:07 am

    @ African Moondog:

    Is there oil in Paraguay?

    Yes there is.


  53. 53 | September 10, 2010 10:10 am

    I’ll pipe in with a little historical perspective. I’ve done a little research on this topic. The essays relevant here is the collection of PDFs under “The Qur’an in Iraq”, especially the second and third. (I apologise in advance for the Pleez Subscribe To Mai Noozlettur! kookery.) Here’s the pointy-haired-boss powerpoint summary -

    Soon after ‘Abd al-Malik reconquered Iraq, he installed his finest thug, Kulayb “The Pilgrim (al-Hajjaj)” as governor over Iraq. I don’t know how Kulayb had got his nickname, but I suspect it was a joke. During ‘Abd al-Malik’s reconquest of Mecca… Kulayb had bombed the Kaaba. No, really. He’d fired catapults at it and wrecked it.

    Kulayb / Hajjaj having proven himself loyal, brutal and cynical; he was the obvious choice to enact ‘Abd al-Malik’s brutal and cynical policies in Iraq. These policies involved the destruction of that Qur’an which the Iraqis were then using: “I will scrape off the text if I have to use the bone from a porkchop”.

    The first and foremost burners of Qur’ans were Muslims. What we call “the Qur’an” now, exists because of decades of forgery and oppression by Umayyad (and Zubayrid) tyrants.


  54. 54 | September 10, 2010 10:12 am

    African Moondog wrote:

    Yes he was. IIRC there were a few nuts at the time accusing him of generating the storm. Others said it was his fault because he refused to sign the Kyoto Protocol. Anderson Cooper said it was his fault because the victims were “all….so black”!

    And blew up the levee.


  55. African Moondog
    55 | September 10, 2010 10:12 am

    @ MikeA:

    I know that teachers, nurses, technicians etc to go there for the inflated tax free salaries take the money and run as soon as they can.


  56. MikeA
    56 | September 10, 2010 10:14 am

    I wonder, is there anything that doesn’t offend the muzzies? I am so tired of having to listen to them whine and seethe. If cartoons upset you, how brittle can your faith really be? But then again, their prayers don’t count if a woman or dog crosses their path while doing it. Guess allah is not that strong…

    I say give them a reason to whine and seethe. If they act up, wipe them out. Destroy them utterly. Its the only thing they understand. It doesn’t sound very Christian but I am torn by them. I am told to love my enemy but they would cut my head off just for beingin the same room. There is no peace with them.


  57. 57 | September 10, 2010 10:16 am

    @ MikeA:

    I’m sick of their sensibilities. I will offend them everytime I get.


  58. African Moondog
    58 | September 10, 2010 10:17 am

    @ Zimriel:

    Thanks. I have saved your copy. I’ll go through it in full when I have time.I can think of one chap who is in a fine fury that he cannot “out” you now!


  59. MikeA
    59 | September 10, 2010 10:17 am

    @ African Moondog:

    My cousin was there back in the early 90s working for Aramco. His wife and kid HATED it. The wife said she couldn’t go anywhere without men stareing and accosting her. It started at the airport and went downhill. She finally left and moved back to the states with the son. My cousin came back 6 months later richer but saying the place was a crap hole. It was 7th century bedoins with lots of money and modern conviences bought from the west. They have no drive at all…


  60. 60 | September 10, 2010 10:19 am

    @ 1389AD:

    They were burned. The military in Afghanistan burns its trash.


  61. Middle-Earth
    61 | September 10, 2010 10:19 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ MikeA:
    I’m sick of their sensibilities. I will offend them everytime I get.

    BBQ Danish style


  62. m
    62 | September 10, 2010 10:21 am

    @ Rodan:

    We offend them by breathing, lol!


  63. 64 | September 10, 2010 10:22 am

    @ m:
    No wonder they oppress their women.
    They are a bunch of whiny crybabies.


  64. 65 | September 10, 2010 10:23 am

    @ m:

    I’m glad my ancetors exterminated them from Spain. I’m sick of Islam and its hypocrisy.


  65. 66 | September 10, 2010 10:24 am

    m wrote:

    Dearborn Muslims will protest Koran burning anyway, even though it’s been cancelled

    Dearborn is not American territory. It’s an Islamic emirate.


  66. African Moondog
    67 | September 10, 2010 10:25 am

    MikeA wrote:

    I wonder, is there anything that doesn’t offend the muzzies? I am so tired of having to listen to them whine and seethe. If cartoons upset you, how brittle can your faith really be?

    That is a good point. The Jewish faith has given the world some of the greatest humorists ever. I am trying to think of a mediocre Muslim humorist. I suspect that they are damn scared to tell even the mildest self-depreciating joke for fear having their heads removed from their shoulders. A brittle creed indeed.


  67. m
    68 | September 10, 2010 10:26 am

    @ typicalwhitey:

    Yep. With no regard for anyone ELSE.


  68. MikeA
    69 | September 10, 2010 10:26 am

    @ m:

    While I don’t agree with the church doing it (not a good Christian witness), they need to do it anyway. Nothing satisfies these people. Do they protest when muslims go killing others.. of course not.. but look at a koran the wrong way and suddenly the muslim world is up in arms.

    Need to go to the range this weekend to work off this anger… Maybe bring my copy of the koran as target practice.


  69. 70 | September 10, 2010 10:28 am

    @ African Moondog:

    There’s no fun in Islam!


  70. 71 | September 10, 2010 10:34 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ African Moondog:
    There’s no fun in Islam!

    There’s no crying in baseball!
    There’s no baseball in Islam!
    There’s crying in Islam!

    Lots and lots of crying.


  71. m
    72 | September 10, 2010 10:35 am

    Consequence of contempt for American law


  72. Nevergiveup
    73 | September 10, 2010 10:37 am

    OK I stole this from ACE, but it’s still pretty funny:

    Rep. Sanford Bishop (D-Ga.) awarded three scholarships from the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation to his stepdaughter and wife’s niece between 2003 and 2005, according to records from the non-profit group.
    Bishop is the second Democrat found to have funneled Congressional Black Caucus Foundation scholarship funds to relatives, threatening to turn the program into a larger political problem for the party. Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas) recently paid back $31,000 to the foundation for scholarships that she improperly awarded to various relatives and children of a top staffer.

    Bishop stupidly protests: it wasn’t explicitly against the rules until 2008 to direct the charity scholarships to family members. Ninja. Please. He used the CBC scholarship fund as source of education funds for his stepdaughter, which means he basically took the CBC money and put it in his own pocket. He woulda been out that money anyway to pay for his kid’s tuition.

    Anyone wanna bet that this is the last one?


  73. 74 | September 10, 2010 10:38 am

    @ m:

    They best be peaceful about it. You know what I said should be done to rioters…


  74. m
    76 | September 10, 2010 10:38 am

    Diane Denish (D CAND, NM-GOV) smeared by own attack ad?

    pwn fail? lol


  75. Nevergiveup
    77 | September 10, 2010 10:39 am

    Think your dog is talented?


  76. m
    78 | September 10, 2010 10:41 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Yes!

    Ok, not that talented! LOL!


  77. Speranza
    79 | September 10, 2010 10:42 am

    typicalwhitey wrote:

    The wonder is not that Obama is angry at criticism, but why he is so surprised in a weird “how dare they?” fashion

    A strong messianic self image will do that to you.


  78. 80 | September 10, 2010 10:43 am

    Did you guys see this?

    TIGTA: 50% of Homebuyers Must Repay Tax Credit
    The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration today released A Comprehensive Strategy Is Being Developed to Identify Individuals With First-Time Homebuyer Credit Repayment Requirements (2010-41-086):
    Approximately 1.8 million taxpayers claimed a total of almost $12.5 billion in First-Time Homebuyer Credits in Calendar Year 2009. More than 950,000 taxpayers will be required to repay the Credits because their homes were purchased in 2008. Many more may have to repay the Credits if the homes cease to be the primary residences of the taxpayers within 36 months.

    That is going to sting. Stimulus FAIL.


  79. Nevergiveup
    81 | September 10, 2010 10:44 am

    m wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Yes!

    Ok, not that talented! LOL!

    Yeah my cats looked at it and said “So What? That and $1.50 will get ya on the subway”?


  80. African Moondog
    82 | September 10, 2010 10:46 am

    @ MikeA:

    I just don’t agree with burning books, even if the contents are crap.

    Do they protest when muslims go killing others.. of course not.. but look at a koran the wrong way and suddenly the muslim world is up in arms.

    Yeah, let no one forget that most of the Muslims who have died violently throughout history have been killed by other Muslims. Let us not forget the amount of aid sent to Banda Acheh (a muslim area) after the Tsunami compared to that of the USA.

    Let us compare the amount of aid sent by Muslim nations to Haiti (a non-muslim area)after the earthquake compared to that sent by Israel.


  81. MikeA
    83 | September 10, 2010 10:47 am

    @ m:

    Thank you for that. I needed a good laugh this Friday morning.


  82. MikeA
    84 | September 10, 2010 10:48 am

    @ African Moondog:

    How about using them for target practice? ;)


  83. waldensianspirit
    85 | September 10, 2010 10:48 am

    GOP elites are expert failures


  84. Nevergiveup
    86 | September 10, 2010 10:50 am

    On the eve of Sept. 11, Fox News has learned the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency has attempted to block a book about the tipping point in Afghanistan and a controversial pre-9/11 data mining project called “Able Danger.”

    In a letter obtained by Fox News, the DIA says national security could be breached if “Operation Dark Heart” is published in its current form. The agency also attempted to block key portions of the book that claim “Able Danger” successfully identified hijacker Mohammed Atta as a threat to the United States before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

    Click here to read the full DIA letter (pdf)

    Specifically, the DIA wanted references to a meeting between Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer, the book’s author, and the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, Philip Zelikow, removed. In that meeting, which took place in Afghanistan, Shaffer alleges the commission was told about “Able Danger” and the identification of Atta before the attacks. No mention of this was made in the final 9/11 report.

    In a highly unusual move, the DIA is now negotiating with the publisher, St. Martin’s Press, to buy all 10,000 copies of the first printing of the book to keep it off shelves — even after the U.S. Army had cleared the book for release.

    Shaffer spoke to Fox News before he was asked by the military not to discuss the book. He confirmed efforts to block the book and other details.

    The documents and exclusive interviews, including an Army data collector on the Able Danger Project, are part of an ongoing investigation by the documentary unit “Fox News Reporting” which uncovered new details about American cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and efforts by the FBI to track and recruit him for intelligence purposes after 9/11.

    Not sure what this is all about really, but it is interesting. The rumors that “someone” knew about Atta before 9/11 are not new?


  85. African Moondog
    87 | September 10, 2010 10:50 am

    @ MikeA:

    That is better, and a damn sight more satisfying.


  86. m
    88 | September 10, 2010 10:52 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Ha! Sounds like my cats. They aren’t easily impressed.


  87. BuddyG
    89 | September 10, 2010 10:53 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Ray Nagin was the bestest mayor the Chocolate City ever had

    I recently watched ‘Charlie and the Chocolate Factory’ with my kids and it was awful. The ‘Willie Wonka’ was much better. IMHO.


  88. African Moondog
    90 | September 10, 2010 10:54 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    The rumors that “someone” knew about Atta before 9/11 are not new?

    I don’t know id they new about Atta and those dreadful people specifically, but back in 2001, Condi Rice admitted that they new something was up, but who would have imagined in those days that they would plan a thing like that? We are now a lot less innocent.


  89. Crashnburn01
    91 | September 10, 2010 10:56 am

    Predictably, “Aiman Mazyek of the Central Council of Muslims in Germany said in a statement: ‘Merkel is honoring the cartoonist who in our view trampled on our Prophet and trampled on all Muslims’.”

    Let me fix this:

    Predictably, “Aiman Mazyek of the Central Council of Muslims in Germany said in a statement: ‘WWWAHHHHHHH AHHHHHH WAAAHHHHHHHHHH! Merkel is honoring the cartoonist who in our view trampled on our Prophet and trampled on all Muslims sniff sniff’.”

    Pussies.


  90. Nevergiveup
    92 | September 10, 2010 10:58 am

    African Moondog wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    The rumors that “someone” knew about Atta before 9/11 are not new?

    I don’t know id they new about Atta and those dreadful people specifically, but back in 2001, Condi Rice admitted that they new something was up, but who would have imagined in those days that they would plan a thing like that? We are now a lot less innocent.

    The rumors about “Able Danger” and Atta being specifically known is not new. But it has always been denied.


  91. MikeA
    93 | September 10, 2010 10:58 am

    @ BuddyG:

    Willy Wonka with Gene Wilder is the best. Loved it as a kid and love it now. Intersting story:

    My wife and I were dating, she asked me my favorite childhood movie, told her Willy Wonka… She said “Me too..!!” The rest is history.


  92. m
    94 | September 10, 2010 11:01 am

    @ MikeA:

    This morning they played the old “abercrombie & fitch” song on the radio and the hosts asked all the interns if they knew what they were talking about when they mentioned Mr. Limpet in the song.

    NONE of them did, lol!

    Oh I loved me some Mr. Limpet.


  93. 95 | September 10, 2010 11:03 am

    Pat Buchanan has lost his mind. Big surprise, there, right? Check this shit out:

    Both Pat Buchanan and Donny Deutsch have advocated the arrest of Pastor Terry Jones to prevent his possible burning of Korans and the danger to US troops such act would threaten. The paleo-conservative and the New York liberal made common cause on today’s Morning Joe. They were outnumbered by Mika Brzezinski, Dan Senor and John Heilemann, all of whom opposed the arrest-the-pastor proposal on First Amendment grounds. Buchanan and Deutsch expressed disregard for the First Amendment implications.

    Talk abou t”Creeping Shari’ia”, that is more like galloping Shari’ia. We’re going to abridge the First Amendment to protect a Koran? It makes me want to go buy a koran to burn tomorrow.


  94. Philip_Daniel
    96 | September 10, 2010 11:06 am

    This is for Charles Johnson…

    Neither here nor anywhere else have I ever written or spoken a word which, taken with its context, can furnish the slightest excuse for the accusation sometimes recklessly made against me, namely, that I advocate a crusade against Islam as a religion. The Musulmans of India [under the British Raj] enjoy perfect religious liberty, including polygamy; and I am glad of it, much as I dislike polygamy as degrading to woman and injurious to man. But the Musulmans of India are not allowed to practise slavery, though it is sanctioned by their religion; nor are Musulman judges allowed to reject Christian evidence against Musulmans, though that also is sanctioned by their religion. I draw the line where the British Government has drawn it in India ; liberty for the Musulman to practise his religion without let or hindrance up to the point where his religion invades the sacred sphere of natural justice, as it does in Turkey. I should object to Christianity on the same ground with just as much emphasis. Moreover, the government of Turkey is, as I have shown, an ecclesiastical government, which I consider the worst possible form of government in the civil sphere, even when it is Christian ecclesiasticism; much more when it is an ecclesiastical government which professes to be theocratic. For then it follows that the regulations which fix the status of the Christians are not simply civil ordinances which admit of amendment, but dogmas of religions which are absolutely immutable so long as the Musulman Power rules supreme. I object to a system of that sort, not because it is Musulman, but because it is inhuman.

    The sultan and the powers by Malcolm MacColl, p. 161-62


  95. Philip_Daniel
    97 | September 10, 2010 11:07 am

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    Ok, that text should have been a blockquote…


  96. 98 | September 10, 2010 11:08 am

    African Moondog wrote:

    but who would have imagined in those days that they would plan a thing like that?

    Tom Clancy


  97. m
    99 | September 10, 2010 11:08 am

    Thomas Sowell: The Mess Bush Left And Other Obama Fables


  98. Philip_Daniel
    100 | September 10, 2010 11:09 am

    Crashnburn01 wrote:

    Predictably, “Aiman Mazyek of the Central Council of Muslims in Germany said in a statement: ‘Merkel is honoring the cartoonist who in our view trampled on our Prophet and trampled on all Muslims’.”

    Well, Fitnah i.e. Shirk is worse than slaughter, ya know…


  99. Philip_Daniel
    101 | September 10, 2010 11:12 am

    African Moondog wrote:

    Yeah, let no one forget that most of the Muslims who have died violently throughout history have been killed by other Muslims.

    Most of the victims of the Naqshbandi Sufi Tamerlane in his Ghazwat were Muslims whom he deemed heretical and thus apostates, to be killed with impunity. Those Muslims whom he deemed sufficiently orthodox were spared. Of course, he was also thirsty for the blood of Christians from the Volga to the Indus, being a mujahid; he’s still reviled among the Ossetians as the man who nearly decimated the Alans, ancestors of the Ossetians.


  100. 102 | September 10, 2010 11:13 am

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    When the time comes, I have no intention of shirking at the slaughter…


  101. Philip_Daniel
    103 | September 10, 2010 11:15 am

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    About this time there arose in my heart the desire to lead an expedition against the infidels, and to become a ghazi; for it had reached my ears that the slayer of infidels is a ghazi, and if he is slain he becomes a martyr. It was on this account that I formed this resolution, but I was undetermined in my mind whether I should direct my expedition against the infidels of China or against the infidels and polytheists of India. In this matter I sought an omen from the Qur’an, and the verse I opened upon [Q66:9] was this, ‘O Prophet, make war upon infidels and unbelievers, and treat them with severity.’ My great officers told me that the inhabitants of Hindustan were infidels and unbelievers. In obedience to the order of Almighty Allah I ordered an expedition against them.

    Malfuzat—i—Timuri


  102. Philip_Daniel
    104 | September 10, 2010 11:17 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Philip_Daniel:
    When the time comes, I have no intention of shirking at the slaughter…

    You’ve said that before; In response, I’ll quote Malcom MacColl again…

    I have sometimes been called a fanatic on the subject of Islam. I am no fanatic on that or on any other subject. I am an advocate of religious freedom in the widest sense consistent with the inalienable rights of mankind. My toleration ceases where the religious doctrines of one man invade the aboriginal rights of another, as they do, and have ever done, in every State, without exception, where Islam has ruled supreme. The non-Musulman can never obtain the rights of citizenship, but is irrevocably doomed to a most cruel and degrading servitude, under Musulman rule.


  103. 105 | September 10, 2010 11:20 am

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    Yep. Islam demands submiaaion. I will not submit.


  104. BuddyG
    106 | September 10, 2010 11:20 am

    MikeA wrote:

    Willy Wonka with Gene Wilder is the best

    I agree wholeheartedly!
    BTW whatdya think of ‘Charlie and the Chocholcate Factory’?
    I thought it was weird and Johnny Depp looked a bit feminine.


  105. 107 | September 10, 2010 11:20 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    submiaaion == submission

    Some days I just can’t type :mrgreen:


  106. MikeA
    108 | September 10, 2010 11:21 am

    @ BuddyG:

    hated it. It was like someone was on acid when they made the movie. and yes, he was very feminine.


  107. 109 | September 10, 2010 11:21 am

    BuddyG wrote:

    I thought it was weird and Johnny Depp looked a bit feminine.

    That is because Johnny Depp is a pussy :evil:


  108. 110 | September 10, 2010 11:22 am

    When everything from sneakers to stuffed animals to comics to frescos to beauty queens to fast-food packaging to undies serves as dry tinder for Allah’s avengers, it’s a grand farce to feign concern about the recruitment effect of a few burnt Korans in the hands of a two-bit attention-seeker in Florida. The eternal flame of Muslim outrage was lit a long, long time ago.


  109. MikeA
    111 | September 10, 2010 11:23 am

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    What you are missing Philip is that the translation is wrong. They meant to look inward and try to peacefully make the infidels believe. It can only be understood in the original arabic…

    // Do I really need to…


  110. 112 | September 10, 2010 11:24 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    BuddyG wrote:
    I thought it was weird and Johnny Depp looked a bit feminine.
    That is because Johnny Depp is a pussy

    Ok.
    It is now war Iron!
    Me loves me some Johnny Depp!


  111. 113 | September 10, 2010 11:25 am

    @ typicalwhitey:

    :P


  112. BuddyG
    114 | September 10, 2010 11:25 am

    Rancher wrote:

    African Moondog wrote:
    but who would have imagined in those days that they would plan a thing like that?
    Tom Clancy

    WWII Kamikaze Pilots


  113. RIX
    115 | September 10, 2010 11:29 am

    It is very dangerous in the West to limit freedoms in order to protect
    Muslim sensabilities.
    It sets bad precedent and emboldens the RoP


  114. mfhorn
    116 | September 10, 2010 11:30 am

    Neil Boortz referenced this column by Dinesh D’Souza on How Obama thinks.


  115. Philip_Daniel
    117 | September 10, 2010 11:31 am

    @ MikeA:

    How does one drive a car bomb into one’s soul?


  116. mfhorn
    118 | September 10, 2010 11:33 am

    And the Interior Minister of Pakistan has asked INTERPOL to prevent the Koran burning in FL.

    Islamic countries are pushing for passage of a UN Resolution (?) which would virtually ban criticism of Islam.


  117. 119 | September 10, 2010 11:36 am

    Susana strikes back!

    D’oh! Didn’t anyone on the Denish campaign check to see whether their teacher-spokeswoman might have a more personal axe to grind? Instead, they not only made themselves look incompetent, they also allowed Martinez to underscore her law-and-order credentials. That also reminds New Mexico voters about the corruption of the Richardson administration and perhaps the need for some major changes in state government.


  118. 120 | September 10, 2010 11:36 am

    @ mfhorn:

    We should respond with a resolution criminalizing Jihad. I am so damn tired of playing nice with the bloody savages.


  119. taxfreekiller
    121 | September 10, 2010 11:36 am

    Pat Buchanan give the name “usefull fool” a bad name.@ Iron Fist:


  120. BuddyG
    122 | September 10, 2010 11:36 am

    Philip_Daniel wrote:

    How does one drive a car bomb into one’s soul?

    Well the last thing to go through a car bomber’s mind might well be his soles.


  121. 123 | September 10, 2010 11:37 am

    Why did the chicken cross the road?

    You know the answer

    Now

    Why did the devout mysoginistic Mohamadan cross the road?

    He was stuck in the chicken


  122. taxfreekiller
    124 | September 10, 2010 11:38 am

    TFK idea free on the internet.

    Deport the illegals and any american who knowingly hires them to the same country.

    like that


  123. 125 | September 10, 2010 11:56 am

    IT has warnings about a virus going around. Using the E-mail subject line “Here you have” the virus was mentioned on Good Morning America also.


  124. m
    126 | September 10, 2010 12:01 pm

    @ mfhorn:

    I thought they already got that.


  125. 127 | September 10, 2010 12:34 pm

    African Moondog wrote:

    it was recommended that the boar be replaced with something else because of the strength of feeling among nearby residents as pigs are perceived as offensive creatures by many Muslims

    What about the feelings of pigs who perceive many Muslims as vile, offensive creatures? My sympathy is with the pigs. Never heard of a pig beheading somebody or suicide bombing a kindergarten.


  126. 128 | September 13, 2010 12:59 pm

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