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Peaceful muslims?

by Kafir ( 153 Comments › )
Filed under Crime, Hate Speech, Islamic Supremacism, Islamic Terrorism, Islamists at October 5th, 2010 - 2:00 pm

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UPDATE: Threats?  This video was posted at a hate site dedicated to threatening and smearing Pamela Geller. We did not want to link to the hate site, so we are reposting this video here for reference. We believe that it is vitally important to document and bring to public attention the vicious and hatefulness of Islamic supremacists and their allies in the U.S., and the danger they pose to free citizens. This video illustrates all of that with revolting and chilling vividness.

This video sickens me. It is only published here because it needs to be exposed.

Thank you, Pamela, for all that you do for all of us.

Y’all, please visit Pamela’s today and read the whole thing:
All Death Threats Are Not Created Equal


ROPMMFA

(h/t to Bumr50 & GrimCargo)

Update from 1389:

If you see death-threat/jihadi videos – such as [this video] – here’s a place where you can report them: QTRadmin@gmail.com at YouTube Smackdown

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153 Responses to “Peaceful muslims?”
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  1. taxfreekiller
    1 | October 5, 2010 2:02 pm

    What was it they said about the Apache?


  2. Bob in Breckenridge
    2 | October 5, 2010 2:07 pm

    “Peaceful” is in the eye of the beholder beheader, infidels!


  3. taxfreekiller
    3 | October 5, 2010 2:07 pm

    Only good,,,”"”Apache.

    Only peaceful Apache is a “”"” Apache.


  4. MikeA
    4 | October 5, 2010 2:08 pm

    When can we finally hear it in the MFM that this cult is a vile pox on the face of the earth and all peace loving people need to eradicate it? It has brought nothing but suffering and death everywhere it goes. If this does not prove that it is from satan himself, then I don’t know what will….


  5. F
    5 | October 5, 2010 2:09 pm

    Peaceful Muslims…a textbook example of oxymoron if there ever was one.


  6. Speranza
    6 | October 5, 2010 2:09 pm

    Was that video posted at Little Green Balls?


  7. 7 | October 5, 2010 2:10 pm

    That will teach her for opposing the Holy Islamic Ground Zero Touchdown Dance Mosque, Rabat, and Sharia-Compliant Fitness Center and questioning the peaceful benevolence of the Muslim people.


  8. coldwarrior
    8 | October 5, 2010 2:10 pm

    more actions from the brave muslim men.

    spit.


  9. F
    9 | October 5, 2010 2:11 pm

    Death threats and criminal trials for people speaking the truth about Islam.

    Yeah, real peaceful.


  10. 10 | October 5, 2010 2:13 pm

    @ F:

    Peaceful Muslims == Dead Muslims

    I believe the Serbs had the right of it. Figures Slick Willy would pick the wrong side when he felt the need to Wag the Dog…


  11. coldwarrior
    11 | October 5, 2010 2:13 pm

    like i said earlier n the day, she needs to report this to her local police to get it on record


  12. 12 | October 5, 2010 2:15 pm

    @ Speranza:

    No balls, here. No balls at all…


  13. buzzsawmonkey
    13 | October 5, 2010 2:16 pm

    Orcs.


  14. 14 | October 5, 2010 2:16 pm

    Has anybody checked to see where Bob Beckle was when this was posted? He did threaten her on live TV the other day…


  15. 15 | October 5, 2010 2:17 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    And there is only one thing that you can do with Orcs, and it ain’t “Co-exist”…


  16. NoThreat2U
    16 | October 5, 2010 2:18 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Well since she is also a New Yorker maybe she should go see the cop that Daisy Khan says is her point man. The one she is to report all threats to.


  17. 17 | October 5, 2010 2:18 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    like i said earlier n the day, she needs to report this to her local police to get it on record

    Why? Pamela is not a Muslim and not black, Do you honestly think
    Eric Holders Department of InJustice will do anything other than prosecute Pamela for offending those poor abused Muslims?


  18. NoThreat2U
    18 | October 5, 2010 2:18 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    I saw that fat bastard on Hannity last night. He really is a woman hater.


  19. buzzsawmonkey
    19 | October 5, 2010 2:19 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Hope you saw the lyric at #173, prior thread, since your post inspired it.


  20. 21 | October 5, 2010 2:24 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Yeah. As always, excellent :P


  21. Nevergiveup
    22 | October 5, 2010 2:26 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    OT – Steven Hayes found guilty of horrific Connecticut home invasion murder/rape. I hope he gets the death penalty.

    You’d think so wouldn’t you? But this is CT. It should be a slam dunk, but I put the odds at only 60-40 for death penatly.


  22. MikeA
    23 | October 5, 2010 2:27 pm

    @ Speranza:

    hanging is too good for the likes of him. He should be drawn and quartered or torn into little bitty pieces and buried alive!!!

    or something like that…


  23. lobo91
    24 | October 5, 2010 2:28 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    And it will be decades before he’s executed, if ever…


  24. 25 | October 5, 2010 2:28 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    It illustrates the importance of being armed and of everybody in the house knowing how to shoot. It really is a necessary life-skill.


  25. Bob in Breckenridge
    26 | October 5, 2010 2:29 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Has anybody checked to see where Bob Beckle was when this was posted? He did threaten her on live TV the other day…

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    I saw that fat bastard on Hannity last night. He really is a woman hater.

    Deleted from Wiki-

    In 2002 Beckel was involved in a controversy when he paid a prostitution organization $1,900 in personal checks, and then was blackmailed for an additional $50,000. [1] Beckel reported the incidents to the authorities and resigned from his current political positions.

    /Just saying.


  26. 27 | October 5, 2010 2:30 pm

    @ MikeA:

    Handcuff his right wrist to his left ankle, pour gasoline on him, and set him on fire. Out in the desert, and just leave. Something will eventually get him.


  27. wolfie
    28 | October 5, 2010 2:30 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Was that video posted at Little Green Balls?

    I confess that the same thought crossed my mind, mainly because so many of CJ-&-Co’s attacks on her crossed the line into misogyny and outright demonization.

    And I realized that, if the situation were reversed, CJ would be the very first to post a video of that sort and connect it to anyone with whom he could remotely associate it. “This is the kind of thing the _____ approve of!” his headline would read.

    Well then, is this the kind of video that those who despise Geller, who call her a “shrieking harpy” and a “hate-filled c**t,” who obsessively stalk her every word and action, find acceptable?

    (I suspect not, BTW, but there is nevertheless a very good reason why the video immediately made me think of LGF.)


  28. coldwarrior
    29 | October 5, 2010 2:32 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    things are different when you are a democrat…normal rules dont apply


  29. Speranza
    30 | October 5, 2010 2:32 pm

    @ wolfie:
    selrahC is a despicable churl.


  30. 31 | October 5, 2010 2:33 pm

    @ wolfie:

    Oh, I suspect that they do approve although, of course, they’d never say so. It is like the Left with Leftist and Mohammedan violence. They whole-heartedly approve, they just are smart enough to make condemnatory sounds when they are near microphones. Mohammedans, not being as smart, dance in the streets and pass out candy…


  31. Speranza
    32 | October 5, 2010 2:33 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ MikeA:
    Handcuff his right wrist to his left ankle, pour gasoline on him, and set him on fire. Out in the desert, and just leave. Something will eventually get him.

    That is too merciful to the mother effer!


  32. Nevergiveup
    33 | October 5, 2010 2:33 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    And it will be decades before he’s executed, if ever…

    Did you see that they are holding a “sanity” hearing for the Army Shrink who shot up FT Hood? I got a funny feeling he might never go to trial.


  33. MikeA
    34 | October 5, 2010 2:33 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    subtle… I like it! Fed slowly into a wood chipper…

    A person like this has shown they cannot live under civilized society. They need to be removed… permenently…


  34. Speranza
    35 | October 5, 2010 2:34 pm

    MikeA wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    hanging is too good for the likes of him. He should be drawn and quartered or torn into little bitty pieces and buried alive!!!
    or something like that…

    Him and his partner in crime Joshua Komisarjevsky who will be tried early next year.


  35. MikeA
    36 | October 5, 2010 2:35 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Well, if you think about it… anyone who is a muzzie is not sane. Can’t be and believe that crap. Doesn’t mean you don’t fry him.

    If he can be cured, he would off himself once he realized what he had done.
    If he can be… well… you shoot rabid dogs.


  36. NoThreat2U
    37 | October 5, 2010 2:35 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    He’s a nasty piece of work, for sure.

    BBL…gotta go get some grub for this shack. lol


  37. MikeA
    38 | October 5, 2010 2:35 pm

    @ MikeA:

    If he CAN’T be…

    darn fingers…


  38. Speranza
    39 | October 5, 2010 2:36 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    You’d think so wouldn’t you? But this is CT. It should be a slam dunk, but I put the odds at only 60-40 for death penatly.

    Never underestimate sleazy lawyeres. I wish the two were tried together.


  39. lobo91
    40 | October 5, 2010 2:36 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Did you see that they are holding a “sanity” hearing for the Army Shrink who shot up FT Hood? I got a funny feeling he might never go to trial.

    I hadn’t heard that, but I wouldn’t worry about it too much. It’s the Army, not California.


  40. taxfreekiller
    41 | October 5, 2010 2:37 pm

    OT

    “We the People” are inside the wire of the commie Democrat camp.

    It is a ambush. They were all about their on late night drinking of the kool aid party, no one on the watch. RECON units cut the wire, turned off the other trip wires.

    Now disrupt their counter attacks of personal attacks on U.S..

    Keep them from re-grouping, do not allow them to get lies to the msm, do not allow them to cheat Nov. 2, push hard, do not stay still, light off some “nightengail’s” for effect.

    Keep them on the run, they will run over each other if we push hard enough.

    like that


  41. 42 | October 5, 2010 2:37 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Well, it is impossible to execute him, resurrect him, and then kill him again. It’d be nice, but the only One capable of doing it isn’t into executions…


  42. Speranza
    43 | October 5, 2010 2:37 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    It illustrates the importance of being armed and of everybody in the house knowing how to shoot. It really is a necessary life-skill.

    Home invasion is a horror. Every time I see one of those Brinks/ADT commercials about home invasions my heart beat increases exponentially.


  43. Speranza
    44 | October 5, 2010 2:38 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Well, it is impossible to execute him, resurrect him, and then kill him again. It’d be nice, but the only One capable of doing it isn’t into executions…

    I hope there is a nice hot place for him in the next world where he will burn for all eternity 9slowly).


  44. Nevergiveup
    45 | October 5, 2010 2:39 pm

    MikeA wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Well, if you think about it… anyone who is a muzzie is not sane. Can’t be and believe that crap. Doesn’t mean you don’t fry him.

    If he can be cured, he would off himself once he realized what he had done.
    If he can be… well… you shoot rabid dogs.

    I’m just guessing but I don’t think the Obama Admin wants this to see the light of day. My money is on some sort of plea with life.


  45. Nevergiveup
    46 | October 5, 2010 2:40 pm

    The Army psychiatrist accused in last year’s shooting rampage at Fort Hood is to have a mental evaluation before a key hearing to determine whether he will stand trial, a military commander ordered Monday.

    Earlier this year Army officials appointed a three-member board of military mental health professionals to determine whether Maj. Nidal Hasan is competent to stand trial. At issue is his mental status during the Nov. 5 shootings, which left 13 dead and dozens wounded on the Texas Army post.

    Col. Morgan Lamb, a Fort Hood brigade commander appointed to oversee judicial matters in Hasan’s case, on Monday ordered the evaluation before next week’s Article 32 hearing, which will be held to determine whether Hasan will stand trial on 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder. Lamb had previously granted a defense team request to delay the exam for Hasan until after the hearing.

    Tyler Broadway, a spokesman for the Army post, said he had no details about Lamb’s decision Monday.

    It’s unclear if any findings from the mental exam would be presented at the Article 32 hearing, the military equivalent to grand jury proceedings. A military officer will hear evidence, including testimony from the nearly three dozen people who were wounded that day, and later determine if Hasan will be court-martialed.

    John Galligan, Hasan’s lead defense attorney, said he has told Hasan not to cooperate with anyone who tries to evaluate him until the defense team can address “important issues dealing with timing and the composition of the (mental evaluation) board.”

    “Why at the 11th hour would someone want to rush this through?” Galligan said Monday from his office near Fort Hood, about 120 miles south of Fort Worth.

    The panel’s job is to determine whether Hasan had a severe mental illness at the time of the shooting, and if so, his clinical psychological diagnosis, whether that prevented him from knowing at the time that his alleged actions were wrong, and if he is competent to stand trial based on military law.

    In January when Galligan requested the delay of the evaluation, he cited his lack of military files related to Hasan’s mental status and a potential conflict of interest with the panel. Galligan said one member taught at the medical school when Hasan was a student.


  46. RIX
    47 | October 5, 2010 2:41 pm

    MikeA
    36 | October 5, 2010 14:35
    @ Nevergiveup:

    Well, if you think about it… anyone who is a muzzie is not sane. Can’t be and believe that crap. Doesn’t mean you don’t fry him

    .

    Pious Muslims beleive that the Koran is the literal word of God, no
    metaphors or allagories.
    The Book says among other things to subdue & kill Infidels.
    There are lots of pious Muslims who are either carrying out the
    word or supporting those that do.
    Libs & screeching Imams can’t clean it up.


  47. snork
    48 | October 5, 2010 2:42 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    It illustrates the importance of being armed and of everybody in the house knowing how to shoot. It really is a necessary life-skill.

    She’s got kids. She needs to be armed to the teeth for their benefit.


  48. chickadee
    49 | October 5, 2010 2:42 pm

    This is so horrifying.
    I hope Pamela is carrying a gun in her purse and will not hesitate to use it.


  49. 50 | October 5, 2010 2:44 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    If he is sane enough to follow his attourney’s advice not to cooperate, then he is sane enough for trial. That should make it easy.


  50. BuddyG
    51 | October 5, 2010 2:45 pm

    F wrote:

    Peaceful Muslims…a textbook example of oxymoron if there ever was one.

    Long Island Expressway
    No Smoking
    Government Worker
    Boneless Ribs
    Extra Virgin
    Jumbo Shrimp
    Family Court
    Baby Grand
    Rap Artist
    Civil War
    Stop


  51. 52 | October 5, 2010 2:46 pm

    @ snork:

    I want my Old Lady to get a permit. She doesn’t see it as essential, and nothing I’ve been able to do has changed her mind. I can’t always be around, and I can be outnumbered.


  52. 53 | October 5, 2010 2:47 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Well, it is impossible to execute him, resurrect him, and then kill him again. It’d be nice, but the only One capable of doing it isn’t into executions…

    What? Sure he is, you dont actually think death is natural do you?


  53. Nevergiveup
    54 | October 5, 2010 2:48 pm

    Report: 2 years left for solution to Iranian threat
    Senior US advisor believes still time to see if sanctions cause Iranian regime to back down or fall. New York Times: Evaluation unacceptable to Israel
    Yitzhak Benhorin
    Published: 10.05.10, 20:04 / Israel News
    WASHINGTON -- The US government believes there is still a window of two years in which to solve the Iranian nuclear issue by diplomatic means, the New York Times reported Tuesday.

    The paper also quoted Gary Samore, special assistant to President Barack Obama and White House Coordinator for Arms Control and Weapons of Mass Destruction, who said to European experts there is still time to check whether sanctions will cause the Iranian regime to back down or even fall.

    Special Assistant to Obama?? Are they freaken kidding. These people are gonna get us all killed!


  54. 55 | October 5, 2010 2:50 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Special Assistant to Obama?? Are they freaken kidding. These people are gonna get us all killed!

    No they are not kidding, that really is their intention, getting as many Americans killed as possible.


  55. buzzsawmonkey
    56 | October 5, 2010 2:52 pm

    Don’t Bite the Hand That’s Feeding You
    —Thomas Hoier & Jimmy Morgan, 1915

    Last night, as I lay a sleeping,
    A wonderful dream came to me.
    I saw Uncle Sammy weeping
    For his children from over the sea;
    They had come to him, friendless and starving,
    When from tyrant’s oppression they fled,
    But now they abuse and revile him,
    Till at last in just anger he said:

    If you don’t like your Uncle Sammy,
    Then go back to your home o’er the sea,
    To the land from where you came,
    Whatever be its name,
    But don’t be ungrateful to me!
    If you don’t like the stars in Old Glory,
    If you don’t like the Red, White and Blue,
    Then don’t act like the cur in the story,
    Don’t bite the hand that’s feeding you!

    You recall the day you landed,
    How I welcomed you to my shore?
    When you came here empty handed,
    And allegiance forever you swore?
    I gathered you close to my bosom,
    Of food and of clothes you got both,
    So, when in trouble, I need you,
    You will have to remember your oath:

    If you don’t like your Uncle Sammy,
    Then go back to your home o’er the sea,
    To the land from where you came,
    Whatever be its name,
    But don’t be ungrateful to me!
    If you don’t like the stars in Old Glory,
    If you don’t like the Red, White and Blue,
    Then don’t act like the cur in the story,
    Don’t bite the hand that’s feeding you!

    Contemporary recordings of the song can be found at the top of this page.


  56. lobo91
    57 | October 5, 2010 2:53 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    The US government believes there is still a window of two years in which to solve the Iranian nuclear issue by diplomatic means, the New York Times reported Tuesday.

    Coincidentally, there are two years until the next presidential election.

    In other words, they just announced their official policy, which is to kick the can down the road.


  57. wolfie
    58 | October 5, 2010 2:53 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    It illustrates the importance of being armed and of everybody in the house knowing how to shoot. It really is a necessary life-skill.

    There were no guns in my house when I was growing up.
    I never had any interest in them.
    Mr. Wolf tried and tried to get me to learn to shoot with no luck.
    Until I had my first baby.
    Living out in the country, Mr.Wolf often working nights or on the road, I decided I had to protect the cradle.

    All of my kids are well-trained.
    As for me, I’m still not much interested, but Mr. Wolf puts me through the drill every couple of months, just to be sure I remember. And I can ready that shotgun so fast it’d make your head spin. :)


  58. buzzsawmonkey
    59 | October 5, 2010 2:55 pm

    wolfie wrote:

    And I can ready that shotgun so fast it’d make your head spin.

    “What’s your hobby?”

    “Collecting shells.”


  59. Nevergiveup
    60 | October 5, 2010 2:55 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    The US government believes there is still a window of two years in which to solve the Iranian nuclear issue by diplomatic means, the New York Times reported Tuesday.

    Coincidentally, there are two years until the next presidential election.

    In other words, they just announced their official policy, which is to kick the can down the road.

    Well perhaps the only bright side in that is that they may be signaling that they realize they will not get a second term? But I am reaching


  60. daughter of patriots
    61 | October 5, 2010 2:57 pm

    Up to + post 9/11 I used to converse on a web-techie listserv. Living in NYC at the time, I was curious as to why 19 Muslim men attacked us while praising their Allah. I found it odd, too, that the 96th Street Imam left the US the following week -- why? For that matter, why did Saudi Arabia fund most of the mosques in the US, and wanted to know what they were preaching…. there was a Muslima on the listserv who proclaimed all the “peaceful” points of Islam. She was always at odds to my questions…then I began to get late night phone calls (I’d kept my signature tag on my email messages)…I contacted the listserv originator quietly, and he’d suggested I retain records and contact the police. Then, she started to say that she was getting death threats -- poor Muslim! (What a crock.)

    Later, I moved out of NYC -- the calls followed me. I hit *67 and got a foreign sounding woman. I began a police report in my new town and changed my cell #.


  61. RIX
    62 | October 5, 2010 2:57 pm

    Nevergiveup
    33 | October 5, 2010 14:33
    Did you see that they are holding a “sanity” hearing for the Army Shrink who shot up FT Hood? I got a funny feeling he might never go to trial.

    As you know clinical insanity & legal insanity are not the same
    thing. One can be batshit crazy, but if you know the difference
    between right & wrong you can’t sustain the insanity defense.
    So, this devout Muslim carried out what he was instructed to
    do in his faith. So if Hasan is crazy, so is Islam.
    We can’t have that, not politically acceptable.


  62. wolfie
    63 | October 5, 2010 2:58 pm

    @ BuddyG:

    :lol:
    I want one of those ashtrays!


  63. chickadee
    64 | October 5, 2010 2:59 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    How wonderful . . . . so he may get to use as a defense for his savage killing spree that he was nuts because he was following the koran.

    How convenient for the head choppers.

    nidal hasan knew exactly what he was doing and acted to bring abt. the intended result . . . . . screaming alah ackbar as he cut down innocent people.

    These fcks are not crazy in the sense that they do not understand and intend to commit the heinous acts they engage in.
    It is called islam.


  64. 65 | October 5, 2010 2:59 pm

    @ wolfie:

    It isn’t something that everyone enjoys, but it is something that everyone needs to know. I think they should give a semester class on small arms for senniors in high school. Teach them gun safety (they should introduce age-appropriate gun safety courses throughout the curriculum), the proper care and feeding of the tools, and finish it out with rifle marksmanship. Something decent, so that people who choose to go on into the military won’t have bad habits to unlearn. It would save lives. What is it that the Brady Bunch is always saying? If it saves one life…


  65. snork
    66 | October 5, 2010 3:00 pm

    I’m hungry.


  66. wolfie
    67 | October 5, 2010 3:00 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Don’t Bite the Hand That’s Feeding You
    —Thomas Hoier & Jimmy Morgan, 1915

    Wow.
    You couldn’t write a song like that today without being cast out of polite society as a racixenophobigot hater.


  67. 68 | October 5, 2010 3:02 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Their official policy is to let A-jad build all the nukes he wants while making ineffectual noises that he should stop. Like a horny virgin girl that can’t quite bring herself to say “Yes”, but wants it bad


  68. wolfie
    69 | October 5, 2010 3:03 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    “What’s your hobby?”

    “Collecting shells.”

    I would love to have an opening for that one with my lefty acquaintances in academe! :lol:


  69. lobo91
    70 | October 5, 2010 3:05 pm

    @ chickadee:

    How wonderful . . . . so he may get to use as a defense for his savage killing spree that he was nuts because he was following the koran.

    It won’t work. The standard for being considered competent to stand trial is whether or not he’s able to participate in his own defense, which is what this panel is going to determine.

    I haven’t heard anything yet from his attorney to indicate what he plans to use as a defense strategy. He obviously can’t claim that his client didn’t commit the act, since there are dozens of witnesses and tons of forensic evidence proving that he did it.

    Back when it happened, there was a lot of talk about his having been “bullied” because of his faith, but I can’t see that working as a defense, either. He didn’t target any specific individuals who had done anything to him in the past. He shot a bunch of random people who happened to be in the building at the time.

    Should be an interesting trial, anyway.


  70. 71 | October 5, 2010 3:07 pm

    @ wolfie:

    Guns are fun just because they piss all the right people off. Just about everyone should have a few, and it is impossible to keep the people that shouldn’t have them from getting them. Carl Rowan proved that when he shot that kid for skinny-dipping…


  71. BuddyG
    72 | October 5, 2010 3:07 pm

    snork wrote:

    I’m hungry.

    I can your arteries hardening from here.


  72. 73 | October 5, 2010 3:07 pm

    @ snork:
    Almost as yummy looking as these.


  73. lobo91
    74 | October 5, 2010 3:07 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    What is it that the Brady Bunch is always saying? If it saves one life…

    Of course, they don’t really believe that, because they hate the Eddie Eagle program.


  74. BuddyG
    75 | October 5, 2010 3:08 pm

    hear


  75. buzzsawmonkey
    76 | October 5, 2010 3:10 pm

    @ wolfie:

    I wonder what kind of reception a traveling concert of songs like that would get.

    It would be interesting to find out.


  76. citizen_q
    77 | October 5, 2010 3:11 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    And it will be decades before he’s executed, if ever…

    Did you see that they are holding a “sanity” hearing for the Army Shrink who shot up FT Hood? I got a funny feeling he might never go to trial.

    islam is a mental disease. Followers of it should not be given a pass.

    I guess that I have to put on my tin-foil hat, and wonder how badly islam has infiltrated the halls of power. I found it unconscionable how islam has been handled with kit gloves by the brass, worrying the “diversity” would be a casualty of this attack.


  77. BuddyG
    78 | October 5, 2010 3:11 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:

    Fine Fatal Food


  78. wolfie
    79 | October 5, 2010 3:15 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Guns are fun just because they piss all the right people off.

    You bet! It’s almost as good for that as smoking!

    I haven’t smoked in 20 years, but many is the time, when in a room full of lefties, I wish I still did. As it is, I have found it highly amusing from time to time to interrupt a raging lefty discussion of politics with, “Say, does anyone happen to have a cigarette?”

    You can only use it once with any given group, but the rewards are priceless. :lol:


  79. wolfie
    80 | October 5, 2010 3:17 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    I wonder what kind of reception a traveling concert of songs like that would get.

    It would be interesting to find out.

    Indeed it would be. Very interesting.


  80. Bob in Breckenridge
    81 | October 5, 2010 3:17 pm

    Don’t know if anyone has posted this, but buddy Denny from grouchyoldcripple.com just emailed me this-

    WOW: The 8/28 conservative rally versus the 10/2 liberal rally


  81. buzzsawmonkey
    82 | October 5, 2010 3:19 pm

    wolfie wrote:

    As it is, I have found it highly amusing from time to time to interrupt a raging lefty discussion of politics with, “Say, does anyone happen to have a cigarette?”

    You can only use it once with any given group, but the rewards are priceless.

    Especially if you can counter the disapproving glances and tongue-clucking you receive by claiming convincingly to be Native American, and to be getting in touch with your vibrant cultural tobacco heritage…


  82. Bob in Breckenridge
    83 | October 5, 2010 3:20 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    Don’t know if anyone has posted this, but buddy Denny from grouchyoldcripple.com just emailed me this-
    WOW: The 8/28 conservative rally versus the 10/2 liberal rally

    And the ponytailed fatass irrelevent blogger actually said the lib crowd was probably larger than Beck’s. What a dolt.


  83. wolfie
    84 | October 5, 2010 3:22 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Geez. I didn’t even think of that! :lol:
    Leave it to the professional discombobulator to come up with good tips for the amateur!

    (I can easily pass for Amerindian, too, being 1/8 Aymara. Okay, that’s South American, but who cares?!?!?)


  84. BuddyG
    85 | October 5, 2010 3:23 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    Interesting Contrast


  85. chickadee
    86 | October 5, 2010 3:24 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    Don’t know if anyone has posted this, but buddy Denny from grouchyoldcripple.com just emailed me this-

    WOW: The 8/28 conservative rally versus the 10/2 liberal rally

    So few people left so much trash.
    And so many people left none.

    I thought the left was supposed to care abt. Gaia. lol


  86. buzzsawmonkey
    87 | October 5, 2010 3:25 pm

    wolfie wrote:

    Geez. I didn’t even think of that!

    Move the hell over, Karl Rove.


  87. buzzsawmonkey
    88 | October 5, 2010 3:25 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    I thought the left was supposed to care abt. Gaia.

    Gaia rights now!


  88. 89 | October 5, 2010 3:26 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    If you take enough meth, you can count the crowd (meth makes you obcessive), but if you also smoke weed while you are doing meth, you can count the same people twice, three times. I don’t know how the drug combination works when you are whacking off, which is a subject that Chuckles is obcessed with in and of itself these days.


  89. refugee000
    90 | October 5, 2010 3:26 pm

    Are we sure al-chuki is not responsible for this?


  90. lobo91
    91 | October 5, 2010 3:26 pm

    @ chickadee:

    So few people left so much trash.
    And so many people left none.

    I thought the left was supposed to care abt. Gaia. lol

    They left all that trash in order to create jobs…


  91. kansas
    92 | October 5, 2010 3:32 pm

    Before my last sock got banned over there when I pointed out some muzzie fuck wanted to behead Geert Wilders, Up Chuck responded to me, “That’s just what he wants”. I am sure he thinks Pam wants to be murdered. What a pathetic piece of shit.


  92. citizen_q
    93 | October 5, 2010 3:36 pm

    @ kansas:
    Wow, what a sick mind-set. Probably thinks rape victims wanted it too.


  93. chickadee
    94 | October 5, 2010 3:41 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ chickadee:

    So few people left so much trash.
    And so many people left none.

    I thought the left was supposed to care abt. Gaia. lol

    They left all that trash in order to create jobs…

    Imagine how happy the clean up crew is to have the conservative crowds show up.
    They all want to work on those days.


  94. RIX
    95 | October 5, 2010 3:43 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Johnson is one twisted fat boy.


  95. BuddyG
    96 | October 5, 2010 3:47 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Johnson is one twisted fat boy

    Sure is


  96. Nevergiveup
    97 | October 5, 2010 3:50 pm

    A gay Saudi prince beat and strangled his male servant to death in a frenzied sexual assault at their luxury London hotel suite, a court heard on Tuesday.
    Saud Bin Abdulaziz Bin Nasir al Saud, 34, who is a grandson of Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah, killed Bandar Abdullah Abdulaziz on February 15 after abusing him for weeks, the court heard.

    Lovely!


  97. 98 | October 5, 2010 3:51 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Such a lovely people! Let’s give them a State! (Oh, wait…)

    :evil:


  98. RIX
    99 | October 5, 2010 3:51 pm

    BuddyG wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    Johnson is one twisted fat boy
    Sure is

    Wait! The have Happy Hour & Football? I’m there.


  99. chickadee
    100 | October 5, 2010 3:53 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    A gay Saudi prince beat and strangled his male servant to death in a frenzied sexual assault at their luxury London hotel suite, a court heard on Tuesday.
    Saud Bin Abdulaziz Bin Nasir al Saud, 34, who is a grandson of Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah, killed Bandar Abdullah Abdulaziz on February 15 after abusing him for weeks, the court heard.

    Lovely!

    Oh come on. You know there are no gay muzz.


  100. snork
    101 | October 5, 2010 3:54 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Such a lovely people! Let’s give them a State! (Oh, wait…)

    Let’s trade them San Fransisco for a billion barrels of crude.


  101. 102 | October 5, 2010 3:54 pm

    @ RIX:

    Call me insensitive if you like, but legal and/or clinical insanity should not be a means of mitigating responsibility for horrific crimes. I simply do not believe that people who commit premeditated murders should ever be released into the general population.

    We should accept the fact that there are some people who are simply devoid of morals or social conscience (sociopaths) and thy simply cannot be “rehabiliated”.

    Execution of these people may well be the most humane way of dealing with them, for as long as they are alive they will continually be a threat to everyone around them.

    There, I said it. Call me a heartless beast if you must.


  102. BuddyG
    103 | October 5, 2010 3:54 pm

    RIX wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    Johnson is one twisted fat boy
    Sure is
    Wait! They have Happy Hour & Football? I’m there.

    Football or not he’s still a SH*THEAD !


  103. wolfie
    104 | October 5, 2010 3:55 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    “His father is a nephew of King Abdullah and his mother is one of the king’s daughters.”

    Perhaps a pioneering lawyer should try for an inbreeding defense.


  104. kansas
    105 | October 5, 2010 3:56 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Call me insensitive if you like, but legal and/or clinical insanity should not be a means of mitigating responsibility for horrific crimes. I simply do not believe that people who commit premeditated murders should ever be released into the general population.
    We should accept the fact that there are some people who are simply devoid of morals or social conscience (sociopaths) and thy simply cannot be “rehabiliated”.
    Execution of these people may well be the most humane way of dealing with them, for as long as they are alive they will continually be a threat to everyone around them.
    There, I said it. Call me a heartless beast if you must.

    New legal status: guilty by reason of you did it, asshole.


  105. Bob in Breckenridge
    106 | October 5, 2010 3:57 pm

    chickadee wrote:
    Oh come on. You know there are no gay muzz.

    That will admit it.


  106. 107 | October 5, 2010 4:01 pm

    And I have a message for the subhuman dirt bags who made this video…
    YOU don’t know who you’re fucking with!


  107. 108 | October 5, 2010 4:03 pm

    Lars Vilks US appearances cancelled…because US authorities REFUSED TO PROVIDE SECURITY.

    Public safety officials AND people who work for the DHS, AFAIK, are required to take an oath to uphold the US Constitution, and if a state or local official, the Constitution of their State.

    They are bound to protect the rights guaranteed us in the Constitution, including freedom of speech for counterjihadists.

    If they fail in that duty, they are just a bunch of armed thugs serving nobody’s interests but their own. What are we paying them our tax dollars for?


  108. RIX
    109 | October 5, 2010 4:03 pm

    MacDuff
    102 | October 5, 2010 15:54
    @ RIX:

    Call me insensitive if you like, but legal and/or clinical insanity should not be a means of mitigating responsibility for horrific crimes. I simply do not believe that people who commit premeditated murders should ever be released into the general population.

    Yeah, but the ability to distinguish between right & wrong is the legal standard for the insanity plea to be sustained.
    The defense rarely works.
    In this case they would probably have to establish that Major Hassan is unable to tell right from wrong because of Islam.
    On a side note, the Husky blogger claimed that Hassan was not a Jihadi
    because the Army would never have promoted him to Major if he was.


  109. chickadee
    110 | October 5, 2010 4:04 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    chickadee wrote:
    Oh come on. You know there are no gay muzz.

    That will admit it.

    Of course this monster won’t get the penalty most gays get in saudi.
    Hanged from a crane or thrown off a 6 floor building.
    I’m interested to see if Britain even prosecutes him.


  110. BuddyG
    111 | October 5, 2010 4:05 pm

    RIX wrote:

    On a side note, the Husky blogger claimed that Hassan was not a Jihadi

    Husky Sh*thead


  111. 112 | October 5, 2010 4:05 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:
    Don’t know if anyone has posted this, but buddy Denny from grouchyoldcripple.com just emailed me this-
    WOW: The 8/28 conservative rally versus the 10/2 liberal rally
    So few people left so much trash.
    And so many people left none.
    I thought the left was supposed to care abt. Gaia. lol

    The main thing is that the left shows no respect for anybody else’s person or property. People who litter or dispose of any type of waste material inappropriately are basically a bunch of pigs.


  112. lobo91
    113 | October 5, 2010 4:06 pm

    Crap like this is why I don’t buy the argument that there are “thousands of Muslims serving honorably” in the defense of this country:

    At sentencing, Shahzad claimed the FBI’s interrogation had violated his rights. He also warned that attacks on Americans will continue until the United States leaves Muslim lands.

    “We are only Muslims … but if you call us terrorists, we are proud terrorists and we will keep on terrorizing you,” he said.

    He added: “We do not accept your democracy or your freedom because we already have Sharia law and freedom.”

    The judge cut him off at one point to ask if he had sworn allegiance to the United States when he became a citizen last year.

    “I did swear but I did not mean it,” said Shahzad.

    “So you took a false oath,” the judge told him.


  113. RIX
    114 | October 5, 2010 4:07 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    chickadee wrote:
    Oh come on. You know there are no gay muzz.
    That will admit it.

    No, those big strong Muslim menses can’t be gay. They kill gays.
    Those Taliban guys who bugger little boys aren’t gay.
    No they are just, uh , um , uh…………..


  114. lobo91
    115 | October 5, 2010 4:08 pm

    @ 1389AD:

    They are bound to protect the rights guaranteed us in the Constitution, including freedom of speech for counterjihadists.

    If they fail in that duty, they are just a bunch of armed thugs serving nobody’s interests but their own. What are we paying them our tax dollars for?

    While I don’t disagree with you, the reality is that law enforcement agents are bound to protect society as a whole, not any individual person.

    That’s a well-established legal precedent.


  115. 116 | October 5, 2010 4:09 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Call me insensitive if you like, but legal and/or clinical insanity should not be a means of mitigating responsibility for horrific crimes. I simply do not believe that people who commit premeditated murders should ever be released into the general population.
    We should accept the fact that there are some people who are simply devoid of morals or social conscience (sociopaths) and thy simply cannot be “rehabiliated”.
    Execution of these people may well be the most humane way of dealing with them, for as long as they are alive they will continually be a threat to everyone around them.
    There, I said it. Call me a heartless beast if you must.

    Agreed.

    And as for people who have other types of emotional problems, such as depression, delusions, panic disorder, or whatever else…it is their own responsibility to get whatever help they need and to make the effort to keep their mental/neurological problems under control.

    I speak as a brain surgery survivor who has battled depression for a very long time. Yes, the depression hit me bad on September 11, but that did NOT result in my doing violence to myself or anyone else. No matter WHAT you have been through, it is NEVER an excuse to be a bad person.


  116. lobo91
    117 | October 5, 2010 4:10 pm

    @ RIX:

    On a side note, the Husky blogger claimed that Hassan was not a Jihadi
    because the Army would never have promoted him to Major if he was.

    All that proves is that he knows nothing about the military.


  117. buzzsawmonkey
    118 | October 5, 2010 4:12 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Call me insensitive if you like, but legal and/or clinical insanity should not be a means of mitigating responsibility for horrific crimes. I simply do not believe that people who commit premeditated murders should ever be released into the general population.

    We should accept the fact that there are some people who are simply devoid of morals or social conscience (sociopaths) and thy simply cannot be “rehabiliated”.

    Execution of these people may well be the most humane way of dealing with them, for as long as they are alive they will continually be a threat to everyone around them.

    There, I said it. Call me a heartless beast if you must.

    What we now call “the insanity defense” was based on the perfectly sound notion that you cannot punish someone for a crime which requires intent if the person was incapable of the necessary intent. Thus, if someone did not know the difference between right and wrong, punishing them for doing wrong was inappropriate, because they did not know what they were doing.

    In practice, this did not mean the person got off scot-free. It meant that instead of being condemned to death (back in the days when the death penalty was not only common but reasonably swift), the person would be confined in an institution for those who were mentally impaired, generally on an open-ended “until-cured” basis—which was itself another form of hell, not only because state-run madhouses were and are famously horrific places, but because one could be confined for an indefinite period until pronounced “cured.”

    Today, of course, we have emptied the inmates of the madhouses onto the streets, because the state can no longer afford to take care of them and the “caring professions” have decreed that as long as the mad take their medication, as they never do, then they can and should dwell among us. And the alternative of execution has been attenuated to the point that the quickest way to guarantee living forever is to be sentenced to the extreme penalty by the state.


  118. 119 | October 5, 2010 4:13 pm

    Speaking of the ROP, tonight at the 92nd St. Y I’m going to see Christopher Hitchens debate Tariq Ramadan on whether or not the ROP is a ROP.


  119. 120 | October 5, 2010 4:14 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    They are bound to protect the rights guaranteed us in the Constitution, including freedom of speech for counterjihadists.
    If they fail in that duty, they are just a bunch of armed thugs serving nobody’s interests but their own. What are we paying them our tax dollars for?
    While I don’t disagree with you, the reality is that law enforcement agents are bound to protect society as a whole, not any individual person.
    That’s a well-established legal precedent.

    That legal precedent is wrongly decided and amounts to a near-total abdication of responsibility.

    Even so, if the authorities KNOW of jihadis who are on the loose and who are threatening violence, it is STILL their responsibility to apprehend the perps without delay. That is true even when those threats are aimed at one particular person rather than at the (hypothetical and essentially meaningless) “society as a whole.”

    In practice, protecting “society as a whole” rather than individuals means “protecting the government itself” and affording NO protection to anyone who is not in a position of power and influence.

    The police then become a bunch of hired thugs or corrupt mercenaries who “serve and protect” only the well-connected, as the motto on the sides of Chicago police cars obviously means.


  120. waldensianspirit
    121 | October 5, 2010 4:17 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:
    Hitchen’s up and about?


  121. 122 | October 5, 2010 4:17 pm

    Wow, Pamela has more posts in one day than most blogs have comments.


  122. 123 | October 5, 2010 4:17 pm

    GTG now…be back later :)


  123. 124 | October 5, 2010 4:18 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    Hitchen’s up and about?

    Oh yeah. He’s up and at ‘em. Should be interesting, though I probably won’t be able to take photos or videos.


  124. chickadee
    125 | October 5, 2010 4:18 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Speaking of the ROP, tonight at the 92nd St. Y I’m going to see Christopher Hitchens debate Tariq Ramadan on whether or not the ROP is a ROP.

    Great. Give us a full report.


  125. lobo91
    126 | October 5, 2010 4:19 pm

    @ 1389AD:

    That legal precedent is wrongly decided and amounts to a near-total abdication of responsibility.

    Be that as it may, the fact still remains. It’s not likely to ever change, either, because doing so would subject every jurisdiction in America to so many lawsuits that the system would collapse.

    Anyone who was the victim of a crime would be able to sue the police for failing to protect them.


  126. buzzsawmonkey
    127 | October 5, 2010 4:19 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Speaking of the ROP, tonight at the 92nd St. Y I’m going to see Christopher Hitchens debate Tariq Ramadan on whether or not the ROP is a ROP.

    I suspect that if anyone can give Ramadan enough ROP to hang himself with, it would be Hitchens.


  127. 128 | October 5, 2010 4:21 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    Great. Give us a full report.

    I’ll have to take notes. I’m pretty sure it’s recorded and will be up on their website afterward.


  128. waldensianspirit
    129 | October 5, 2010 4:21 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:
    That’s great news!


  129. 130 | October 5, 2010 4:21 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    That’s great news!

    He’s doing as best as he can in his condition. I know he’s cutting back on his book reviews lately. Poor fella.


  130. wolfie
    131 | October 5, 2010 4:26 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Speaking of the ROP, tonight at the 92nd St. Y I’m going to see Christopher Hitchens debate Tariq Ramadan on whether or not the ROP is a ROP.

    Sounds great!
    Please let us know how it goes!


  131. 132 | October 5, 2010 4:33 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    Lars Vilks US appearances cancelled…because US authorities REFUSED TO PROVIDE SECURITY.

    Where do you get that the authorities won’t protect him or the event? This is all I could find:

    Craig Snider, a Union League member who was hosting the speaker, said that after he realized the visit would require extraordinary security measures to protect Vilks, his associates, and anyone in attendance, “I voluntarily canceled it. I was not prepared to ask the league to take that kind of risk.”

    I can’t watch videos at work, did he say that in his Philly interview? On a similar note is the Koran burning pastor still on the hook for his security during the run-up to the non-event?


  132. RIX
    133 | October 5, 2010 4:34 pm

    I have been staying away from over there, but this is too good.
    Johnson posted an article claiming that republicans are cowardly
    ducking public forums.

    2010: Year of the Craven Candidates
    Charles Johnson

    10 Walter L. Newton
    Tue, Oct 5, 2010 10:26:16am replyquote 1downupreport

    Interesting… Ken Buck (mentioned in the article above) is currently on KOA radio for a hour debate… Michael Bennett, his Democrat opponent is not at the debate… he refused to show up.

    Who’s hiding?


  133. lobo91
    134 | October 5, 2010 4:38 pm

    @ RIX:

    Not much chance of getting Bennet to show up for a debate. He’s an idiot.

    Soon to be an ex-Senator.


  134. RIX
    135 | October 5, 2010 4:45 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Not much chance of getting Bennet to show up for a debate. He’s an idiot.
    Soon to be an ex-Senator.

    That champion of critical thinking CJ, says that Bennet is justified
    because KOA is “extreme” right.


  135. snork
    136 | October 5, 2010 4:49 pm

    RIX wrote:

    That champion of critical thinking CJ, says that Bennet is justified because KOA is “extreme” right.

    And then yoches when Palin tells O’Donnell to avoid the alphabet soup networks… :roll:


  136. lobo91
    137 | October 5, 2010 4:56 pm

    snork wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    That champion of critical thinking CJ, says that Bennet is justified because KOA is “extreme” right.
    And then yoches when Palin tells O’Donnell to avoid the alphabet soup networks…

    I don’t see any particular reason a candidate for Senate from a tiny state should go on national TV, anyway. She needs to spend her time among the people who can actually vote for her.


  137. RIX
    138 | October 5, 2010 5:04 pm

    snork wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    That champion of critical thinking CJ, says that Bennet is justified because KOA is “extreme” right.
    And then yoches when Palin tells O’Donnell to avoid the alphabet soup networks…

    A ton of bias & that rules his thinking.


  138. mjazz
    139 | October 5, 2010 5:04 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    A kid just got shot by a guy for not pulling his pants up.


  139. mjazz
    140 | October 5, 2010 5:07 pm

    @ lobo91:
    The lawyer chicks on O’Reilly say you can’t sue the cops for that, you’re right.


  140. Macker
    141 | October 5, 2010 5:09 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ wolfie:
    selrahC is a despicable churl.

    Is that related to scrunt?


  141. RIX
    142 | October 5, 2010 5:09 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:
    On a side note, the Husky blogger claimed that Hassan was not a Jihadi
    because the Army would never have promoted him to Major if he was.
    All that proves is that he knows nothing about the military.

    True , but he thinks that he is an expert & has trouble admitting when he is wrong.’
    I had a debate on the thread with him about a simple legal principal.
    He was like a petulant child.


  142. RIX
    143 | October 5, 2010 5:10 pm

    See ya later


  143. mjazz
    144 | October 5, 2010 5:12 pm

    @ RIX:

    On a side note, the Husky blogger claimed that Hassan was not a Jihadi
    because the Army would never have promoted him to Major if he was.

    He was a muslim who quoted the koran and killed a bunch of people but isn’t a jihadi. I guess that depends on what your definition of “is” is.


  144. refugee000
    145 | October 5, 2010 5:14 pm

    al-chuki’s friends seem to have a few problems

    Federal Court Ruling: Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) Must Answer to Fraud Charges by Five Former Clients

    District Court Judge Denies CAIR Motion to Dismiss Federal Fraud Complaints by African American and Pakistani-American Muslims

    WASHINGTON , Oct. 4 — A federal judge in the U.S. District Court in the District of Columbia has denied a motion to dismiss complaints by five former clients of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

    CAIR is a Muslim organization previously named as a Muslim Brotherhood-Hamas front group by the FBI and U.S. Attorney’s Office in the federal criminal trial and conviction of a terrorist funding cell organized around one of the largest Muslim charities, the Holy Land Foundation, which raised funds for violent jihad on behalf of Hamas.

    CAIR had asked federal court judge Paul L. Friedman to dismiss the fraud cases on several grounds, but the judge refused CAIR’s request in its entirety.

    (Judge Friedman did dismiss one duplicative claim of consumer fraud based on D.C. law because he allowed an identical claim under Virginia law, ruling that Virginia law applied in the case).

    The five former clients had earlier this year filed two separate lawsuits in federal court alleging common law and statutory fraud, breach of fiduciary duty, and intentional infliction of emotional distress against CAIR, a self-described Muslim public interest civil rights law firm. These two lawsuits follow an earlier lawsuit which had also alleged that CAIR’s fraudulent conduct amounted to racketeering, a federal RICO crime…..

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/federal-court-ruling--counci l-on-american-islamic-relations-cair-must-answer-to-fraud-charges-by-f ive-former-clients-104261738.html


  145. lobo91
    146 | October 5, 2010 5:19 pm

    @ RIX:

    True , but he thinks that he is an expert & has trouble admitting when he is wrong.’
    I had a debate on the thread with him about a simple legal principal.
    He was like a petulant child.

    He was partially correct, of course. The board that promoted him wouldn’t have done so if it had known that he was a wannabe jihadist.

    But they didn’t know that, because all they had to go on was his official personnel file. None of his behavioral issues were documented in his evaluations, so the board had no way of knowing.

    As an AMEDD officer, the board’s inclination is to promote everyone who meets the basic eligibility criteria (time in grade, time in service, and required education), unless there’s something in their record indicating that they shouldn’t be promoted. AMEDD promotions are non-competitive (just like JAG and Chaplains).

    The reason his issues weren’t documented was a combination of political correctness and laziness on the part of his supervisors. Giving someone a negative evaluation requires work. A “center block” is much easier.


  146. lobo91
    147 | October 5, 2010 5:21 pm

    @ mjazz:

    See my #146 above.


  147. 148 | October 5, 2010 6:01 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    I speak as a brain surgery survivor who has battled depression for a very long time. Yes, the depression hit me bad on September 11, but that did NOT result in my doing violence to myself or anyone else. No matter WHAT you have been through, it is NEVER an excuse to be a bad person.

    Well, I had a stroke 2 years ago and depression was just one of the little gifts it left me, so I think that I have some idea of where you’re coming from. Yeah, I’ve been in some pretty dark places and for brief moments I’ve considered suicide, but my rational mind took over and I have confidence that it always will…that sort of thing just is not in my nature.

    As for harming another person, well, if attacked that’s one thing, but otherwise, that is also not in my nature.

    I’m no psychologist, but it seems to me that these disorders are just a means of acting out impulses that are already there.


  148. 149 | October 5, 2010 7:54 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    1389AD wrote:
    Lars Vilks US appearances cancelled…because US authorities REFUSED TO PROVIDE SECURITY.
    Where do you get that the authorities won’t protect him or the event? This is all I could find:
    Craig Snider, a Union League member who was hosting the speaker, said that after he realized the visit would require extraordinary security measures to protect Vilks, his associates, and anyone in attendance, “I voluntarily canceled it. I was not prepared to ask the league to take that kind of risk.”
    I can’t watch videos at work, did he say that in his Philly interview? On a similar note is the Koran burning pastor still on the hook for his security during the run-up to the non-event?

    “The amount of money would have to spend to ensure security in Ottawa, and the number of registrations, did not justify the expense,” said Mary Lou Ambrogio, a vice-president with the International Free Press Society.

    The Philadelphia event was also cancelled after the Department of Homeland Security declared him a security risk.

    The IFPS would have had to pay for the entire cost of providing security in both Ottawa and elsewhere, at their own expense.

    And in Philadelphia, the DHS declared Vilks to be a security risk…and NOT the jihadis who have been threatening Vilks.

    That is like saying that YOU are a security risk because you own a house, so you have to pay for your own armed watchmen at all times…but the gangs of home invaders roaming your neighborhood are not the problem. It’s putting the onus on the victim, not the perps.


  149. 150 | October 5, 2010 7:57 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    That legal precedent is wrongly decided and amounts to a near-total abdication of responsibility.
    Be that as it may, the fact still remains. It’s not likely to ever change, either, because doing so would subject every jurisdiction in America to so many lawsuits that the system would collapse.
    Anyone who was the victim of a crime would be able to sue the police for failing to protect them.

    If a specific perpetrator had been explicitly threatening the victim, the police were notified, and the police failed to make an honest effort to catch the perp, then well they should be sued!

    Either that, or every reasonably able-bodied adult should be REQUIRED to carry a loaded sidearm 24x7 and to be able to demonstrate proficiency therewith.


  150. lobo91
    151 | October 5, 2010 8:56 pm

    @ 1389AD:

    If a specific perpetrator had been explicitly threatening the victim, the police were notified, and the police failed to make an honest effort to catch the perp, then well they should be sued!

    You can sue them, but you’ll lose.

    The Supreme Court ruled on this issue years ago.


  151. 152 | October 5, 2010 9:26 pm

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  152. Aussie Infidel
    153 | October 6, 2010 1:27 am

    Just more Satanic evil spewing from the ROP.

    After a while it gets boring.

    Still I am bidden to pray for these poor deluded souls who are lost to wickedness. Damnit ! So I will.

    Not to worry folks we know that we are destined to win eventually. Too bad we have to suffer these fools in the meantime !

    :)


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