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Obama’s vision for America: An entitlement society

by Bob in Breckenridge ( 140 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Democratic Party, Economy, Elections 2010, Misery Index, Multiculturalism, Political Correctness, Politics, Progressives, Socialism at October 25th, 2010 - 11:30 am

This, like a lot of things about the entitlement mentality, pisses me off to no end. And of course, it’s in Obungler’s Chicago, but I’m certain it’s happening in every other big city from sea to shining sea controlled by libturd dimocraps.

“Carol Steele, 59 years old, a stocky grandmother and the tenants’ formidable LAC president, moved to the [Cabrini Green public housing projects] in 1957, and to the Frances Cabrini Rowhouses a decade later. She’s lived there ever since.”

First of all, “LAC President” means Local Advisory Council President. Their “mission” is nothing short of socialism, pure and simple, like telling the owners of privately-owned apartment buildings, that some of these leeches live in, what the owners can and cannot do with them, and who can live there. It’s a tenants’ rights union for leeches who live in Section 8 (taxpayer-funded) housing. Can you friggin’ believe that?

These worthless, pathetic leeches, who live in housing that we taxpayers provide for their fat, lazy, worthless asses, actually organize and protest if they decide where they live is not up to their obviously high “standards”.

But let’s get back to Ms. Steele.

This worthless, pathetic “stocky” (in other words fat ass) leech, who has lived off the taxpayer’s dime since she was friggin’ 6 years old, and still depends on the taxpayers to support her, 53 years later, has the nerve to complain about what she gets for FREE, thanks to you and I!

And you can bet your last nickel that this pathetic leech (and millions like her) also collect every type of welfare available to her, as do her kids and grandkids. They, and other leeches like them, are Barack Obama’s and the dimocrap’s vision for the future of America.

Cabrini-Green’s last stand: Families prepare to move out

“Cabrini, down, but not out.”

“It’s not just a building. It’s not a place. It’s a feeling.”

“Now that’s just the way I feel. It taught me what was real. …”

Michael McClarin, the building’s rep on the Cabrini Local Advisory Council, recites a poem he composed, as he makes his way from his ninth-floor apartment to the LAC office on the first floor.

On Oct. 15, 27 families received 90-day eviction notices from the Chicago Housing Authority, bringing the end in sight for what once was one of the nation’s most notorious public housing projects.

But as they prepare to pack up, residents in the last of the William Green Homes’ eight high-rises prefer to focus on the future.

“I’m looking at Dearborn Homes. CHA says they only got a few four-bedrooms left there, and I’d better take it before they’re gone,” says Ramona Lee, 46, who lives on the first floor.

Geez Ramona, yeah, you better hurry up and “take” one, you worthless POS, before some other worthless POS beats you to it, and you and your five kids (fathered by how many different sperm donors?) might have to lower your obviously high standards and “settle” for living in a three bedroom apartment, at no cost to you.

The 134-unit building is only 25 percent occupied, so every noise echoes in its dark, dank, graffiti-scarred hallways, or reverberates through urine-soaked stairwells.

“We fought so long to stay in the area. Looks like it ain’t gonna happen,” says Lee, a soft-spoken mother of five, who has lived here since age 16, was a teen mother and today [is] a recovering drug addict.

49 years old and this leech has lived on the taxpayer’s dime since she was 16 and was most likely pregnant then by some unknown sperm donor. Hey Ramona, did you ever consider fighting, to get, you know, an education and a job? And maybe get your worthless ass off of the welfare roll?

“I figure with Dearborn, you got IIT down the street, so they’re not going to play with security,” she says of the development on State Street between 27th and 30th streets. “I’ll probably be moved in a few days. You know CHA, they take you to see a place Monday, by Friday, they have a truck outside.”

Yep, you read that right. Not only do we pay people to chauffeur these worthless leeches around Chicago showing them places they can move to if the accommodations fit their likings, we taxpayers will also supply a truck to move the worthless POS’s from their old taxpayer-funded apartment to their new taxpayer-funded apartment. And you wonder why those people in New Orleans had no idea what to do after Katrina? NO idea where they were going to go? Didn’t know who was going to take care of them? Again, this is Obama’s and the dimocrap’s vision for the future of America

Made up of four different sections, this Near North Side development roughly bordered by Chicago, Clybourn, Halsted and Sedgwick was born under the urban renewal policies of the 1940s, as housing for working families.

Originally integrated, with many residents holding jobs, that changed after World War II, when area factories closed, leaving many unemployed. According to historical references, the city began cutting back on services, triggering an exodus of residents with resources.

When area factories closed after WWII? Bullshit! That’s when a lot of factories were built, right after WWII. The economy was, for the most part, roaring after WWII during the late 40′s, 50′s, 60′s and 70′s. They didn’t call the “Baby Boom” the “Baby Boom” because we were in a depression and there were no jobs to be found. There were 8 actual recessions from the end of WWII until 1980, one about every 4.5 years, lasting an average of 8 months. I grew up in Chicago in the 60′s and 70′s, and when I was a kid there were factories everywhere, making everything from Zenith TV’s to Motorola radios to Ford and GM cars to steel for building those cars to providing the vast majority of meat to the world from the Union Stockyards.

By the time the fourth section was added in the ’60s, its residents were African-American, and by the ’70s and ’80s, Cabrini was known for its squalid conditions, gang-controlled buildings and rampant crime and violence.

In 1996, the federal government declared Cabrini and all such dense concentrations of poor in public housing a failure, mandating mass demolitions nationally.

Built in 1962 in the area between Division, Larrabee, Halsted and Clybourn, the “whites” — as the Green Homes were called for their white concrete exteriors — once held 1,096 apartments. Its last 134 units are to be shuttered by Jan. 18, then 1230 Burling comes down.

And old Cabrini will be no more.

According to CHA’s FY 2010 annual report to HUD, when Cabrini’s transformation is complete, it will boast 5,141 privately developed, mixed-income units — 1,200 as public housing, 932 for working-class families, and 3,009 for sale or rental at market rates.

The clock ticks for Lee and her fellow residents, living as they are in a ghost town where only two other multistory buildings remain — of an original 23.

Closed Sept. 27 and soon to be demolished, the two mid-rises at 364 and 365 W. Oak are all that’s left of 15 mid- and high-rises once comprising the Cabrini Homes Extensions, built in 1958.

Called the “reds” for their red brick exteriors, the 1,925 units were spread through Cabrini Extension North, bounded by Division, Oak, Larrabee and Clybourn, and Cabrini Extension South, bounded by Chicago, Hudson, Sedgwick and Wendell.

Carol Steele, 59, a stocky grandmother and the tenants’ formidable LAC president, moved to the reds in 1957, and to the Frances Cabrini Rowhouses a decade later. She’s lived there ever since.

Steele has represented the row houses on the LAC, once made up of all the building reps, for 15 years. She’s no fan of CHA’s 10-year-old, $1.6 billion Plan for Transformation- a radical blueprint to replace vertical warehouses of poverty like 1230 Burling with 25,000 new or rehabbed public housing apartments citywide, some in mixed-income communities, others in 100 percent public housing developments.

Hey Carol, if you’re no fan of the new public housing plan, here’s an idea that I’m certain never crossed your pea-sized brain: GO OUT AND GET A *DAMN JOB AND GET YOUR WORTHLESS FATASS OFF THE WELFARE ROLLS AND RENT YOUR OWN DAMN APARTMENT!!!

You’re 59 years old! Are you ever going to be able to take care of yourself? I mean Jesus Christ, don’t these people have any pride? Well, obviously not. All they know how to do is not only take, but demand more free stuff from productive, working Americans, and then they have the *damn nerve to complain if what they get for free doesn’t meet their wants and needs. These worthless pieces of crap contribute NOTHING to society, other than keeping government workers and prison guards employed.

“All we’ve said is why would you tear down housing without building new ones first?” she said.

“You said you want to move us to areas of upward mobility. Well this is it,” she says, waving her hands at the 70 prime real estate acres that make up Cabrini. “It certainly ain’t the areas of the West Side, South Side and south suburbs you’re shunting us off to.”

Well boo-freaking hoo. You should feel lucky and thank God everyday that you’ve actually had a roof over your worthless ass all these years, thanks to people who actually know that they’re supposed to work, and not depend on others to support them, scumbag. The gall of these ungrateful, worthless, assholes is unbelievable.

The right of residents to return as a new Cabrini rises is at the crux of the legal battle that long stalled CHA’s plans here — that, and their demands to stay in some of the dilapidated buildings until new housing is built.

Residents’ 1996 lawsuit over displacements and reduced affordable housing supply was resolved in 2000, with a federal consent decree guaranteeing some of them the right to return. Another lawsuit in 2001 complained they were being relocated to poor, crime-ridden and segregated city areas. It was settled in 2006, with a CHA promise to work harder to move residents to diverse areas.

How come everybody has to continually “work harder” to provide everything for these pathetic worthless leeches while they sit on their worthless fat asses 24/7/365 watching Jerry Springer, Judge Judy, and Oprah while most Americans are out working to support not only their families, but also these pathetic leeches. And then they have the gall to complain about what they get for free, or complain that it’s not enough or not good enough!

“First and foremost, our job is to put people in better and safer housing,” agency CEO Lewis Jordan said in May, after a CHA end-run around its agreement with tenants, which calls for tenants to receive 180-day notices, 60 if occupancy drops to 15 percent.

CHA issued 30-day notices at 1230 Larrabee, bringing trucks a month later to move out tenants, some throughout the night.

“We can no longer tolerate seeing good people live in deteriorating and unsafe conditions,” Jordan says. “Anyone who has been inside the old Cabrini buildings cannot deny the deteriorating conditions. The families there are at great risk, and it is our responsibility to see that those residents are moved from that environment as quickly as possible.”

CHA’s original 10-year timetable for what’s believed to be the largest public housing redevelopment program in the nation was extended in 2006, when it became clear it could not be completed this year. The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development gave its approval for CHA to continue through 2015.

Only the 54 buildings of the row houses — 586 units built in 1942 in the area between Chicago, Hudson, Larrabee and Oak — are to remain at Cabrini. Eerily empty, a third are boarded up for rehab promised but now uncertain, as CHA reconsiders keeping this section 100 percent public housing.

Tenants like 1230 Burling’s McClarin, 57, who snagged a relocation unit there, vow a fight.

“If you were to take an infrared light out there, I bet you’d probably find blood in every spot,” the slender construction worker says, pointing down from 1230 Burling’s 15th-floor gallery.

“All the people that got shot here, all the people that died here, all we got to share in was the blood? We have a right to benefit from the good happening here too,” insists the single father, who raised five children in Cabrini while living here the last 40 years.

Click here to read the rest, which is yet more bitching by these worthless leeches complaining about what they get for free, and remember, this is Obama’s and the dimocrap’s vision for the future of America.

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140 Responses to “Obama’s vision for America: An entitlement society”
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  1. Macker
    1 | October 25, 2010 11:36 am

    You mean these leeches aren’t crack whores?


  2. 2 | October 25, 2010 11:40 am

    “It’s not just a building. It’s not a place. It’s a feeling.”

    Yeah, and it feels like Beiruit with a drug problem. And more prostitutes. Damn, but any way you cut it Cabrini-Greene was a failure. It was the example of what not to do. Naturally, we want veterens of that debacle making the choices for the future, especially if they remember it fondly


  3. snork
    3 | October 25, 2010 11:41 am

    Bob, hate to break the news to you, but there’s nothing Chicago about this. This goes on in every city that has a “housing authority”, and those are authorized and funded by HUD, another branch of government that President Palin and VP West can eliminate.


  4. Bob in Breckenridge
    4 | October 25, 2010 11:45 am

    snork wrote:

    Bob, hate to break the news to you, but there’s nothing Chicago about this. This goes on in every city that has a “housing authority”, and those are authorized and funded by HUD, another branch of government that President Palin and VP West can eliminate.

    I know dude, that’s why I added “but I’m certain it’s happening in every other big city from sea to shining sea controlled by libturd dimocraps.”


  5. 5 | October 25, 2010 11:56 am

    I rehabed nearly 1k section 8 units the owner was returning to market with vouchers for elgiable residents.

    Cured what was left of my bleeding heart…..too many stories to relate here, but every so called stereotype was confirmed empirically in the year I spent in three projects in the NC Triangle.


  6. 6 | October 25, 2010 12:03 pm

    @ Scott Madsen:
    I drove cab for three years in a small town. That was my major eye opener when it came to welfare entitlements. We also had those public housing disasters here in Toronto as well. Regent Park in the downtown area was a crime wave pocket from hell. There are a few other locations as well that are the same. One I heard of was nicknamed the Jungle. I used to walk through it going to a bus station when I first moved into that area. The looks of disbelief and shock from acquaintances when I told them my route made me change that walk.


  7. 7 | October 25, 2010 12:05 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:

    Welcome to the Jungle, we’ve got fun and games…


  8. Nevergiveup
    8 | October 25, 2010 12:07 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ Scott Madsen:
    I drove cab for three years in a small town. That was my major eye opener when it came to welfare entitlements. We also had those public housing disasters here in Toronto as well. Regent Park in the downtown area was a crime wave pocket from hell. There are a few other locations as well that are the same. One I heard of was nicknamed the Jungle. I used to walk through it going to a bus station when I first moved into that area. The looks of disbelief and shock from acquaintances when I told them my route made me change that walk.

    For me, it was when I did a Residency in Newark NJ. The shit I saw. People “Borrowing” other peoples Medicaid Cards all they did was take the card away and send it back to the original owner. No consequences what so ever for either. Minor kids who got knocked up being considered “Adults” because since they had a Kid where considered “responsible” enough to be considered adults????? The sense of entitlement was outrageous.


  9. 9 | October 25, 2010 12:11 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Ahhh stories from that area. One kid I knew said that he lived right beside that area and saw kids his age smoking crack and shooting drugs out his back window. Another guy I worked with, Filipino, took a wrong turn into a little cul-de-sac with a bunch of friends while driving. A bunch of people sitting on a stoop all reached for their belts inside their coats. Rubber was burnt as they peeled out of their in reverse.

    The city saw a problem with kids playing on the street with makeshift basketball nets and built a basketball court for them to play in. I saw a lot of use the first year, now, barely anything.


  10. 10 | October 25, 2010 12:12 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    The sense of entitlement was outrageous.

    It is the sense of entitlement that is the worst. There used to be shame in taking a handout. There should be. If nothing else, it serves a useful social purpose in preventing more people from taking handouts. Of course, the goal of the Democrats is to get nearly everyone dependant on handouts from the government. I don’t know who they think is going to work to pay for all that. Maybe the Chinese?


  11. snork
    11 | October 25, 2010 12:16 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    I drove cab for three years in a small town. That was my major eye opener when it came to welfare entitlements. We also had those public housing disasters here in Toronto as well.

    Which just shows that it’s not a racial thing. It appeals to the basement cat part of human nature.


  12. 12 | October 25, 2010 12:16 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:

    You have to want to improve before any help can be of any use. That is something the Big-Government types never learned or don’t care about. Government help worked (to a degree) during the Depression because there was no Culture of Dependance being fed by it. Today it is an entirely different story. Hell, if I could get government to pay for my housing and drugs, maybe I’d take up heroin as a hobby too. OK, maybe not, but there isn’t a whole lot of incentitive not to. Personally, I think the first thing they should do is get these things out of the city. If we must have welfare, put them on farms in the mid-west and make them grow their own food. At least they’d have to do something for the largess of the State…


  13. m
    13 | October 25, 2010 12:21 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    It is the sense of entitlement that is the worst. There used to be shame in taking a handout. There should be.

    Exactly.

    When I had my first youngun (waaaay too young) they came around with all kinds of forms for WIC, food stamps, medicaid… the works. We both told them -- no thanks. We made this baby, we’ll feed him. They lady looked shocked.


  14. 14 | October 25, 2010 12:21 pm

    Well the news today isn’t all bad. Omar Khadr pleads guilty to all counts and the ringleader of the Toronto 18 was sentenced to 18 years.


  15. 15 | October 25, 2010 12:27 pm

    @ m:

    In 1994 I was in a severe car accident. I almost lost my left arm, and was out of work for several months. I had to get food stamps for the duration of the time I couldn’t work, and it was amazing how they wanted to keep me on them even after I went back to work. I had a low paying job, and had just graduated with my first degree so I had no real oppertunities in front of me other than to go back to school. They were shocked that I wouldn’t want the “free money”. Like I said, they want to get everyone on public assistance. That way we are easy to control.


  16. m
    16 | October 25, 2010 12:29 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:

    Hey! Gotta link to the voting handy?

    :-}


  17. huckfunn
    17 | October 25, 2010 12:30 pm

    This thread reminded me of something Carol Moseley-Braun said several years ago when she was a senator from IL. A republican senator had proposed an amendment to a public housing bill that would have required residents of public housing to perform some minimal amount (4 to 8 hours per week) of maintainence at the project such as picking up trash, painting, yard work, etc… Moseley-Braun said “It’s outrageous to think that any resident of public housing should be required to work as a condition of their residency… IT’S COMMUNISTIC!” I’ve search like crazy for that audio but was unable to find it. 8 trillion updings to anyone who can track it down.


  18. m
    18 | October 25, 2010 12:31 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Like I said, they want to get everyone on public assistance. That way we are easy to control.

    Exactly.


  19. 19 | October 25, 2010 12:32 pm

    m wrote:

    Hey! Gotta link to the voting handy?

    :-}

    Yeppers. Here it is. Remember arts and creative blog for my photography blogging. Voting ends tomorrow.


  20. 20 | October 25, 2010 12:33 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ PaladinPhil:
    Personally, I think the first thing they should do is get these things out of the city. If we must have welfare, put them on farms in the mid-west and make them grow their own food. At least they’d have to do something for the largess of the State…

    Not….. I dont want those shit for brains drug addicts anywhere near anything that I might eat. There is more than plenty for them to do in the cities, give them all a bag and have them pick up trash 8 hours a fucking day, then at least the cities would be clean and getting something for their money. Hell their must be hundreds of similar tasks they could do to earn their welfare money.

    NO MORE FREE WELFARE MONEY, MAKE THEM WORK TO EARN IT.


  21. 21 | October 25, 2010 12:34 pm

    Three generations side by side in three units right down to the twenty three year old grandaughter and her four children.

    Women who worked for a State agency who drove a BMW and had a large collection of African tribal art from junkets, apartment was in mothers name and only reqired a 47 dollar a month contribution according to records I sneaked a peek at one night in the projects office.

    Brood Sow with a fifty inch TV and four fifty to seventy five gallon fish tanks she wouldn’t move out for 24 hours as required for the new flooring section of our contracts scope. (We provided trailers and tents for temp storage while operation was completed in eight hours)

    People constantly filling false damage and theft claims against my bonded sucessful to much to loose to steal ghetto denizens junk sub contractors.

    Putting contact paper on new oak cabinetry and shag carpet back down on new resilient flooring after kitchen were redone.

    Having owners maintanence calling me at nine in the evening for complaints about new dishwashers and HVAC sytems not working (dishwashers packed with table scaps and clogged, people couldn’t read or comprehend a thermostat) this only happened two or three times unti I memoed the owner that it was their responsibilty to train their illiterate ignorant of modern conviences ex sharecroppers tennants who never had running water or heat untill they moved to these places during the Johnson adminisration, and to clean up and repair the damage they did to the new warrantied equipment.

    I could go on…and on


  22. huckfunn
    22 | October 25, 2010 12:34 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    NO MORE FREE WELFARE MONEY, MAKE THEM WORK TO EARN IT.

    See my # 17 above.


  23. 23 | October 25, 2010 12:39 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    There is more than plenty for them to do in the cities, give them all a bag and have them pick up trash 8 hours a fucking day, then at least the cities would be clean and getting something for their money.

    That was tossed around here about a decade ago. Of course the piece of shit unions started bitching and complaining about how that was taking their jobs away from them. As if they do any real trash picking anyway.


  24. 24 | October 25, 2010 12:39 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Remember in 2004-22006 when they were running radio and tv ads for food stamps?

    This was wwhen the numbers were down and they had a surplus in funding and needed to keep the stats up before someone got wind of it and reduced budgets


  25. Nevergiveup
    25 | October 25, 2010 12:42 pm

    Vatican backs synod’s criticism against Israel
    Published: 10.25.10, 17:05 / Israel News
    The Vatican backed a statement issued by the Synod of Bishops of the Middle East over the weekend, which called the international community to “end the Israeli occupation.”

    Vatican Spokesperson Father Federico Lombardi said the statement that was issued during a press conference at the end of the synod convention reflects the opinion of all synod members. (AFP)

    Maybe electing a Nazi Pope was a mistake?
    /hum maybe, not sure I’m kidding?


  26. 26 | October 25, 2010 12:43 pm

    Scott Madsen wrote:

    Remember in 2004-22006 when they were running radio and tv ads for food stamps?

    My forward memory of the future doesn’t work so good, I really just cant seem to recall what happened in 22,006:razz:


  27. NoThreat2U
    27 | October 25, 2010 12:44 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    I’m gonna start crying about ending the occupation too. End it, take it over, and through the bastards out of there.


  28. 28 | October 25, 2010 12:44 pm

    This is how the Democrats act “collegial”:

    State Senator Rickey Hendon played the role of attack dog, launching a blistering critique of Republican candidate for governor Bill Brady.

    Hendon told the crowd, “I served with Bill Brady, I’ve never served with a more idiotic, racist, sexist homophobic person in my life. If you think the minimum wage should be 3 dollars an hour, vote for Bill Brady. If you think women have no rights but to have his children, vote for Bill Brady.”

    Facts? We don’t need no steenkin’ facts! We’re Democrats! Motherfucker what made the accusation is probably a pimp for his second job, right? Hey, I alledged it, he didn’t deny it, so it is true! This is what I mean when I say Politics is War. The Democrats understand that. They understand that they can get away with shit like this because of a compliant media and a compliant Republican Party. If this were reversed, you would hear nothing but calls for the candidate to condemn this mudslinging, and by calling for him to condemn/denounce it you’d be tarring him with it all the while. That is how we should respond. Rand Paul has some of that, given that his anti-Christ worshipping opponent (Hey, he supports partial-birth abortion; sacrificing children to Molech) questioned his faith. At least he went on the offensive, and didn’t just get a hang-dog look on his face and say how sad it made him. We should be trying to destroy the Democrat Party every election. They’ve been doing it for 200 years. It is time for us to grow up, take off the gloves, and get in the fight.


  29. 29 | October 25, 2010 12:46 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Vatican backs synod’s criticism against Israel
    Published: 10.25.10, 17:05 / Israel News
    The Vatican backed a statement issued by the Synod of Bishops of the Middle East over the weekend, which called the international community to “end the Israeli occupation.”
    Vatican Spokesperson Father Federico Lombardi said the statement that was issued during a press conference at the end of the synod convention reflects the opinion of all synod members. (AFP)
    Maybe electing a Nazi Pope was a mistake?
    /hum maybe, not sure I’m kidding?

    I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that the Vatican Spokesperson a) spoke without consulting the Pontiff and b) is about to receive one hell of a Holy smackdown.


  30. Nevergiveup
    30 | October 25, 2010 12:47 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Vatican backs synod’s criticism against Israel
    Published: 10.25.10, 17:05 / Israel News
    The Vatican backed a statement issued by the Synod of Bishops of the Middle East over the weekend, which called the international community to “end the Israeli occupation.”
    Vatican Spokesperson Father Federico Lombardi said the statement that was issued during a press conference at the end of the synod convention reflects the opinion of all synod members. (AFP)
    Maybe electing a Nazi Pope was a mistake?
    /hum maybe, not sure I’m kidding?

    I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that the Vatican Spokesperson a) spoke without consulting the Pontiff and b) is about to receive one hell of a Holy smackdown.

    That would be nice


  31. 31 | October 25, 2010 12:47 pm

    @ Scott Madsen:

    I didn’t see that, but I rarely watch TV. I guess times were too good. They need a certain number of people to get on food stamps and such every year or the rolls will decrease through natural attrition. Can’t have that happen. Then what would all the bureaucracy associated with it (and those people suck the government tit just as hard as the people taking the food stamps) do?


  32. 32 | October 25, 2010 12:48 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Whoops….. not a touch typists…fat fingers subdued lighting


  33. 33 | October 25, 2010 12:49 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I recall radio….just assumed they were on TV too.

    I don’t know if it was the state or fed doing it but it was on talk radio stations.


  34. 34 | October 25, 2010 12:50 pm

    Scott Madsen wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Whoops….. not a touch typists…fat fingers subdued lighting

    Heh heh heh… :mrgreen:


  35. 35 | October 25, 2010 12:51 pm

    Scott Madsen wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    I recall radio….just assumed they were on TV too.
    I don’t know if it was the state or fed doing it but it was on talk radio stations.

    Oh they are running those damned things here in SoCal all the damned time on both radio and TV.


  36. dwells38
    36 | October 25, 2010 12:56 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:

    I drove cab in Cincy for a few months in the late eighties. Unbelievable the things you see: teenage welfare moms taking a $14 cab ride instead of the bus, 12 year old kid with a wad of what looked to be well over $1000, 3 teenagers discussing how going to prison can be good because they teach life-long crook skills there, getting stuck-up in a public housing area by a 15 yr old and 12 yr old (I lied and told them I just started my shift and had no cash, then hit reverse and floored it out of there). All of these were observed in public housing pick-ups.

    Just a couple years later after working on a road band I came back to town and moved into a low-rent upstairs apt. The landlord, a local dentist was hesitant to rent to me because I was NOT section 8. He felt with section 8 he was at least guaranteed SOME of his money (paid for by us the taxpayer).

    Sad. The dole doesn’t help people. It hurts them, wrecks their lives and even kills them.


  37. NoThreat2U
    37 | October 25, 2010 12:56 pm

    Cities Setting Age Limits for Trick-or-Treaters
    Posted on October 25, 2010
    by Nanny State Liberation Front| 6 Comments

    Los Angeles has even made a tradition of banning ‘silly string’ for one night only.
    Big government bureaucrats have taken it upon themselves to tell kids when they are too old to go trick-or-treating on Halloween because they say parents have dropped the ball.

    Mayor Mark Eckert of Belleville, Ill., explains that his father knew when he was “too big” to wear a costume and go door-to-door collecting candy. Today, he says teenagers need to be taught the same lesson.

    “When I was a kid my father said to me, ‘You’re too big to be going trick-or-treating. You’re done,’” Eckert said. “When that doesn’t happen, then that’s reason for the city governments to intervene.”

    No word on whether Eckert believes it should be government’s responsibility or that of parents to give kids the talk about Santa Claus.


  38. snork
    38 | October 25, 2010 1:00 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that the Vatican Spokesperson a) spoke without consulting the Pontiff and b) is about to receive one hell of a Holy smackdown.

    I want to see the details. What exactly does “occupation” refer to? If it is what it sounds like, I’m inclined to agree that this wasn’t authorized from the top. “Official” Vatican statements usually aren’t, and there’s definitely a moonbat column in the organization (probably the pedophile element).

    One thing they need to stay clear of is this movement among some Christian denominations to make Jerusalem an “international city”. That’s an idea that’s candy coated enough do sound reasonable to a lot of people, and at the same time, a recipe for disaster.


  39. 39 | October 25, 2010 1:02 pm

    dwells38 wrote:

    Sad. The dole doesn’t help people. It hurts them, wrecks their lives and even kills them.

    You write that as though it were some revelation. People have known that since the ’30s. I wish I were where I could ind the quote, but I used to have a quopte from FDR warning that done improperly such payments and assistances could become as destructive as morphine. “A subtle poison that kills the soul” I believe were the words he used.


  40. 40 | October 25, 2010 1:04 pm

    @ snork:

    That was the magic solution that Tom Clancy was pushing in his books. He’s a good, entertaining author (or at least was until he came out in support of Weaselly Clark), but his stuff is fiction. At least he shows Mohammedans as the bad guys.


  41. 41 | October 25, 2010 1:06 pm

    I cannot believe the nerve of these parasitic swine! Like the whole world OWES them something… Motherfuckers should thank their lucky stars they’re still stealing oxygen, because in all honesty, they deserved to fucking DIE from all their stupidity and irresponsibility. Smoked too much crack and can’t work? Tough shit, starve! Too stupid to use a condom? Tough shit, nobody cares about you OR your 25 bastards from 50 donors. Sick from being too fat? Stop eating and go walk around. You’ll lose weight AND may find a business down the street that may be hiring.
    OMG, this kind of crap just makes me see red. There is no excuse. Absolutely none. The overwhelming majority of these welfare leeches are able-bodied, able-minded, and could easily find work. Their “disabilities” are self-inflicted or completely made-up. And their laziness and deliberate, militant ignorance are the only things keeping them from becoming productive members of society.


  42. 42 | October 25, 2010 1:09 pm

    @ PrincessNatasha:

    Don’t hold back so much. Tell us how you really feel…

    :evil:


  43. snork
    43 | October 25, 2010 1:09 pm

    On topic:

    Who Lost Moe Tucker?

    My family was damn poor when I was growing up on Long Island. There were no food stamps, no Medicaid, no welfare. If you were poor, you were poor. You didn’t have a TV, you didn’t have five pairs of shoes, you didn’t have Levi’s, you didn’t have a phone; you ate Spam, hot dogs and spaghetti. We all survived! I am not against food stamps, welfare or Medicaid, if only they would oversee these programs properly!

    RTWT.


  44. buzzsawmonkey
    44 | October 25, 2010 1:12 pm

    Cabrini was a shit hole.

    It was put up in what was considered to be a written-off area of Chicago, but when the Carl Sandburg Village development created a huge, expensive, upper-middle-class Gold Coast buffer between the lakefront and the mansions on Astor and the encroachments of Cabrini lawlessness, its days were numbered; it just took about 30 or 35 years for things to catch up.

    Gentrification started spreading up from Old Town, and along the dying Clybourn industrial corridor which ran right into Cabrini proper. Finally, the housing authority started moving people out; there is now new development right up to the remains of Cabrini, on land that had been moonscape for decades.

    In the early ’70s, supposedly, the cops in Cabrini would go around with their interior lights on in their cars to show that they were black, in order to lessen the likelihood they’d be shot at. There was a story going around my cab garage, told with equal relish by black and white drivers, about a cab driver who supposedly kicked a social worker out of his cab and slapped her around for even suggesting that he take her there.


  45. 45 | October 25, 2010 1:12 pm

    @ snork:

    Unfortunately it is far easier to get a hold of the President of the United States than it is to ask the Pope if he agrees with what the Synod spokeshole said.


  46. 46 | October 25, 2010 1:15 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    That is welfare working the way it is supposed to work! Damn those meddling Republicans! If it weren’t for them…


  47. livefreeor die
    47 | October 25, 2010 1:16 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ PaladinPhil:
    You have to want to improve before any help can be of any use. That is something the Big-Government types never learned or don’t care about. Government help worked (to a degree) during the Depression because there was no Culture of Dependance being fed by it. Today it is an entirely different story. Hell, if I could get government to pay for my housing and drugs, maybe I’d take up heroin as a hobby too. OK, maybe not, but there isn’t a whole lot of incentitive not to. Personally, I think the first thing they should do is get these things out of the city. If we must have welfare, put them on farms in the mid-west and make them grow their own food. At least they’d have to do something for the largess of the State…

    I couldn’t say it better myself. People have to realize that the buck stops with them if they want a nicer lifestyle. But the Democrats have to encourage the victimization meme or they’d lose their base.


  48. F
    48 | October 25, 2010 1:16 pm

    Across the years there have been several section 8 housing area built in my local area. Each one was very nice with lots of amenities like a swimming pool and other recreational activity areas. Each one had a huge backlog of residents squatters from other section 8 areas clamoring to get in because of crime and other problems of where they were currently living. In less than 2 years each and every new area because as bad, if not worse, than the shithole they had wanted to escape.

    I take that back, one area remained highly livable and very desirable. It was a private funded, private run enterprise.

    The rest were all government run.


  49. buzzsawmonkey
    49 | October 25, 2010 1:18 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    That is welfare working the way it is supposed to work! Damn those meddling Republicans! If it weren’t for them…

    I do give Chicago credit for tearing down the Robert Taylor Homes (where I was robbed and my life threatened while driving a cab), and for emptying out Cabrini (where I did once take a fare but was not robbed) and tearing it down bit by bit as the development renders the land more valuable.

    In New York, a housing project is forever.


  50. 50 | October 25, 2010 1:19 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Man, that stuff just makes me ill. It pissed me off when my parents and I just got here and some of the other immigrants who arrived at the same time were all hell-bent on “milking the system” and trying to get us to act like them. I found it embarassing and absolutely beneath my parents and me. Luckily, my parents felt the same way. It disgusted me how some of our acquaintances flaunted their poverty and took any handout they could. We were quite broke our first several years here in the States, and I went to some crazy lengths to mask that fact. To me, poverty was shameful. It is bad enough to rely on charity of individuals. But relying on handouts from bureaucracy is a whole other level of humiliation.


  51. mjazz
    51 | October 25, 2010 1:20 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    I think it was Netanyahu who said recognize Israel as a Jewish state and we’ll stop settlements and the paleos said no.


  52. livefreeor die
    52 | October 25, 2010 1:21 pm

    If you receive welfare and public housing, you should have to work at jobs that benefit the community-cleaning up parks, working as flaggers at construction sites, sorting food at food banks, etc. If people had to actually work for their public assistance, they’d be a hell of alot more motivated to look for something better.


  53. 53 | October 25, 2010 1:21 pm

    You know that their internal polling must be abyssmal if ABC news is running stories like this:

    Could Losing Control of Congress Be Good for President Obama?
    ‘World News’ Wants to Know What You Think

    With the forecast looking increasingly bleak for congressional Democrats as the midterms draw near, some political analysts have posed an interesting question: Would losing control of Congress be good for President Obama?

    You can imagine how this week is going to go. They are going to look like Daffy Duck playing Robin Hood: dodge, turn, parry, spin…

    I wouldn’t believe much of anything in the MFM this coming week. Not until 3 November, and they report from the blackened front lines about the Democratic wasteland the Republican Tsunami has left…


  54. mjazz
    54 | October 25, 2010 1:21 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Are or were?


  55. Nevergiveup
    55 | October 25, 2010 1:22 pm

    mjazz wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    I think it was Netanyahu who said recognize Israel as a Jewish state and we’ll stop settlements and the paleos said no.

    Well pretty much, but neither side was serious about that little exchange.


  56. 56 | October 25, 2010 1:22 pm

    livefreeor die wrote:

    If you receive welfare and public housing, you should have to work at jobs that benefit the community-cleaning up parks, working as flaggers at construction sites, sorting food at food banks, etc. If people had to actually work for their public assistance, they’d be a hell of alot more motivated to look for something better.

    Then it would not be “welfare” but “productive work” and we just can’t have that! Imagine how many bureaucrats would have to find real jobs, then!


  57. 57 | October 25, 2010 1:28 pm

    @ PrincessNatasha:

    I agree with you completely. I have worked for everything I have, and my family before me. As the song says, I ain’t no senator’s son. You can make it in America, if you are willing to work hard. I’ve had my setbacks, sure. The downturn in the housing market has hurt me bad, like it has most everyone. I have a plan, and I keep working that plan. See, you are the kind of immigrants we need in America. I wish we could have more like you come in. But we don’t need more welfare sucks. We breed more than enough of them on our own…


  58. 58 | October 25, 2010 1:28 pm

    mjazz wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Are or were?

    Still are, but hell we also have a official 12.6 percent (unofficial 22.8%) unemployment rate where I live, no way the dems are going to pass up an opportunity like that to increase their prole count.


  59. F
    59 | October 25, 2010 1:29 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I wouldn’t believe much of anything in the MFM this coming week. Not until 3 November, and they report from the blackened front lines about the Democratic wasteland the Republican Tsunami has left…

    I won’t believe anything the MFM pontificates on, now or after the election. They collectively gave up all pretense of impartiality by their naked advocacy of Barry in 2008.


  60. 60 | October 25, 2010 1:29 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    The Palestinians have been serious about a “peace” exchange? When?


  61. Nevergiveup
    61 | October 25, 2010 1:30 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    The Palestinians have been serious about a “peace” exchange? When?

    Never, but that particular exchange was just an of the cuff remark from both sides.


  62. mjazz
    62 | October 25, 2010 1:31 pm

    A few years back there was a guide to college kids new to the area and it said avoid certain projects, so someone wrote back with an are you racist diatribe. The paper replied that when they had gone to do a story about the plight of the residents they got robbed of their expensive camera equipment.


  63. F
    63 | October 25, 2010 1:31 pm

    PrincessNatasha wrote:

    livefreeor die wrote:

    If you receive welfare and public housing, you should have to work at jobs that benefit the community-cleaning up parks, working as flaggers at construction sites, sorting food at food banks, etc. If people had to actually work for their public assistance, they’d be a hell of alot more motivated to look for something better.

    Then it would not be “welfare” but “productive work” and we just can’t have that! Imagine how many bureaucrats would have to find real jobs, then!

    If done a certain way the bureaucracy could increase to handle the more paper-work intensive monitoring of people actually having to work to get their dole.


  64. waldensianspirit
    64 | October 25, 2010 1:32 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    If it is that bad for dems why is Ace of AoSHQ getting bent out of shape at ‘moron’ conservatives?

    /of some note; conservatives and independents aren’t into lying so much but when asked how they’ll vote/voted they tend to fib


  65. 65 | October 25, 2010 1:33 pm

    @ F:

    Welfare creates and sustains the culture around it. It causes many of the problems associated with it, and is the cure for none of them. There should be a safety net, but it should be for emergencies and temporary (as short a time as possible), not a lifestyle that supports itself. Hell, people in housing projects have cable. Do you know how long it was after I got out of college that I got cable? Not until six years ago. Until then, I had other things on my plate that were more improtant.


  66. taxfreekiller
    66 | October 25, 2010 1:34 pm

    Go to a “Goverment web site for job openings” check the $ they pay.

    Go to a “nonGoverment web site for job opening” check out how much less those jobs pay.

    They are using our money to kill U.S..


  67. mjazz
    67 | October 25, 2010 1:35 pm

    My ex’s sister had gotten dumped by her husband and had kids to feed and just needed help getting over a slump. But you can’t get welfare unless you are absolutely broke. And she’s no bum, today she has her own business.


  68. mjazz
    68 | October 25, 2010 1:35 pm

    @ PrincessNatasha:
    One of the first things they learn is how to obtain all the benefits here.


  69. Nevergiveup
    69 | October 25, 2010 1:36 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    If it is that bad for dems why is Ace of AoSHQ getting bent out of shape at ‘moron’ conservatives?

    /of some note; conservatives and independents aren’t into lying so much but when asked how they’ll vote/voted they tend to fib

    I think he is trying to keep “conservatives” out there motivated to work the vote and then get out there and vote early and often on November 2nd.


  70. 70 | October 25, 2010 1:38 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    I don’t know, I don’t frequent Ace, but I’d say it is because he is worried (as am I) rather than anything that he may have the skinny on. He may be mad at the Republicans that voted for O’Donnell (like Speranza), but that won’t keep us from getting the Senate. I don’t expect us to get the Senate, but we have been backstabbed by the c*** Murkowski. Maybe he’s talking about her? Maybe he is concerned about Palin, DeMint, etc. talking third party in 2012? The best way to prevent that is to hold the Republican’s feet to the fire for the next two years, and to get a good (that doesn’t mean the guy the elites want) candidate for 2012. Two years of Gingrich/Dole followed by another McCain, and there will be a Third Party. And it will be the fault of the Republican Establishment.


  71. taxfreekiller
    71 | October 25, 2010 1:39 pm

    Your post #53

    correction:

    “Tea Party caused tsunami”@ Iron Fist:


  72. F
    72 | October 25, 2010 1:39 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    of some note; conservatives and independents aren’t into lying so much but when asked how they’ll vote/voted they tend to fib

    Guilty as charged. Had a robocall fishing for support for Patty Murray the other day. Actually had multiple calls, but I finally decided to respond and not simply hang up.

    First question: Are you registered to vote? Yes.
    Second question: Are you a regular voter? Yes.
    Third question: Will you be voting for Patty Murray? Yes. Hail Victory, Patty Murray all the way, taxes are too low, government doesn’t do enough, etc.

    I know the pollster had more questions, but for some strange reason they hung up before I could finish my answer to question 3. ;)


  73. 73 | October 25, 2010 1:39 pm

    @ mjazz:

    Oh, we have both Departments of the government and tax-exempt “charities” to teach new immigrants how to scam our system. It is an industry.


  74. mjazz
    74 | October 25, 2010 1:39 pm

    I worked with a Cambodian who went to the hospital for three days because he had a stomach ache. When he found out he had to pay for the phone he discontinued that right quick.
    I can’t go to the hospital for free for a stomach ache.


  75. snork
    75 | October 25, 2010 1:39 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    With the forecast looking increasingly bleak for congressional Democrats as the midterms draw near, some political analysts have posed an interesting question: Would losing control of Congress be good for President Obama?

    Dude! Chuck said that things are looking waaaaaaay up for the donx. The Chuck can’t be wrong!


  76. 76 | October 25, 2010 1:42 pm

    @ mjazz:

    Yeah, a woman I worked with’s husband got pneumonia one winter and was out of work for three or six months (I don’t remember the exact amount of time). She tried to get foodstamps and learned that they made $500 too much a year to get them. The government suck suggested she quit her job.


  77. buzzsawmonkey
    77 | October 25, 2010 1:42 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Would losing control of Congress be good for President Obama?

    Could be. If the Republicans get enough seats, and exercise enough control, they may stop the slide into the abyss—for which Obama will take credit in 2012, after two years of excoriating the Republicans for their obstruction and backwardness. He will try and take credit for the Republican successes, and blame them for the lingering ill effects of his own agenda.


  78. 78 | October 25, 2010 1:42 pm

    @ snork:

    Define “wrong”…

    :evil:


  79. 79 | October 25, 2010 1:44 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ snork:
    Define “wrong”…

    Ummm, any post made by the Chunkels that cant be deleted scrubbed and tossed down the memory hole???


  80. 80 | October 25, 2010 1:47 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Yeah, that is true. The thing is, I don’t think we are going to see unemployment down significantly as long as Obama is in office (and that means six years if he is re-elected). Businesses aren’t going to hire much. We just had a new hire, but we are slowly expanding and have been since before the Depression started. Our CEO is a wiz at stocks and keeps the money flowing into the research division by trading. The Market is up, so we are doing well. But we are very exceptional. And long-term we don’t know how ObamaCare is going to effect us. I worry about that a lot.


  81. mjazz
    81 | October 25, 2010 1:48 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    They have Ethnic Community Based Organizations that are basically mini ACORNs. For Somalis
    People get money from the government to help people get money from the government.


  82. buzzsawmonkey
    82 | October 25, 2010 1:48 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    And long-term we don’t know how ObamaCare is going to effect us.

    Short-term, it just jacked my insurance renewal 33%.


  83. Nevergiveup
    83 | October 25, 2010 1:48 pm

    And long-term we don’t know how ObamaCare is going to effect us.

    Ever hear about health care in England?


  84. 84 | October 25, 2010 1:49 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    It has my doctor charging for things he used to do for free. It hasn’t raised my health care yet. I have decided to do some elective surgery early next year, though partly because of it. I don’t want to wait until my insurance doesn’t cover such things because they might prolong my life…


  85. buzzsawmonkey
    85 | October 25, 2010 1:50 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Ever hear about health care in England?

    “Obamacare—so that your heart can be as sound as English teeth.”


  86. Nevergiveup
    86 | October 25, 2010 1:50 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Ever hear about health care in England?

    “Obamacare—so that your heart can be as sound as English teeth.”

    OUch. That’s gonna leave a mark


  87. F
    87 | October 25, 2010 1:51 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Ever hear about health care in England?

    Nurse caught on CCTV turning off paralysed patient’s life support machine


  88. 89 | October 25, 2010 1:54 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Yeah, Britain is hosed. I think that is the goal of ObamaCare. They want a two-tiered system: one tier for the little people, where basic services suck and expensive services aren’t allowed, and a second tier for people in Government, the really wealthy, the elite, where even exotic things like life-extention treatments are available. That is how they want it to be, so that they are special.


  89. mjazz
    90 | October 25, 2010 1:54 pm


    Portland, ME immigrants, noncitizens, say it’s only fair they should be able to vote

    Abdirizak Daud, 40, moved to Minneapolis 18 years ago before coming to Portland in 2006. He hasn’t been able to find a job. Some of his nine children have attended Portland schools, and he’d like to have a say in who’s looking over the school system and the city, he said.

    But between his limited English and the financial demands, Daud hasn’t been able to become a citizen.

    “I like the Democrats. I want to vote for Democrats, but I don’t have citizenship,” he said.


  90. 91 | October 25, 2010 1:56 pm

    @ snork:

    I linked that this morning. I can’t see any harm, and it might help. If she understands a bit about guns, maybe she won’t be as afraid of them. I doubt it will change her vote (Obama put her there to reliably vote for gun control, among other things), but it isn’t likely to hurt.


  91. snork
    92 | October 25, 2010 1:56 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Could be. If the Republicans get enough seats, and exercise enough control, they may stop the slide into the abyss—for which Obama will take credit in 2012, after two years of excoriating the Republicans for their obstruction and backwardness. He will try and take credit for the Republican successes, and blame them for the lingering ill effects of his own agenda.

    Like that’s never happened before?


  92. Bob in Breckenridge
    93 | October 25, 2010 1:56 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ waldensianspirit:
    I don’t know, I don’t frequent Ace, but I’d say it is because he is worried (as am I) rather than anything that he may have the skinny on. He may be mad at the Republicans that voted for O’Donnell (like Speranza), but that won’t keep us from getting the Senate. I don’t expect us to get the Senate, but we have been backstabbed by the c*** Murkowski. Maybe he’s talking about her? Maybe he is concerned about Palin, DeMint, etc. talking third party in 2012? The best way to prevent that is to hold the Republican’s feet to the fire for the next two years, and to get a good (that doesn’t mean the guy the elites want) candidate for 2012. Two years of Gingrich/Dole followed by another McCain, and there will be a Third Party. And it will be the fault of the Republican Establishment.

    FWIW- As much as I detest her, Murkowski is running as a Republican write-in candidate, and if by chance she wins, she’d still be an “R”, a RINO, but an “R”.


  93. F
    95 | October 25, 2010 1:56 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    And long-term we don’t know how ObamaCare is going to effect us. I worry about that a lot.

    Look the VA for how BarryCare will go. Since January 2009 the backlog of patients has exploded, the wait time for a routine visit has increased exponentially, co-pays have gone up or started on nearly everything.

    A LOT of money is being spent to “improve patient care” but I can attest that nary a penny is being seen at the clinic level. DC bureaucrats got a massive pay increase.


  94. Nevergiveup
    96 | October 25, 2010 1:57 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Yeah, Britain is hosed. I think that is the goal of ObamaCare. They want a two-tiered system: one tier for the little people, where basic services suck and expensive services aren’t allowed, and a second tier for people in Government, the really wealthy, the elite, where even exotic things like life-extention treatments are available. That is how they want it to be, so that they are special.

    Yup


  95. Bob in Breckenridge
    97 | October 25, 2010 1:57 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ mjazz:
    Oh, we have both Departments of the government and tax-exempt “charities” to teach new immigrants how to scam our system. It is an industry.

    You forgot to add in their native language, no less.


  96. 98 | October 25, 2010 1:58 pm

    @ mjazz:

    And he doesn’t know enough about the way the system is supposed to work to be a citizen, or he would know why we don’t allow non-citizens to vote. He should, though. Requiring citizenship to vote goes back to Greece and the early democracies and republics. It isn’t like a Spartan could sneak into Athens and vote for the Council…


  97. buzzsawmonkey
    99 | October 25, 2010 1:59 pm

    F wrote:

    Look the VA for how BarryCare will go.

    We all live in the BarryO now.


  98. 100 | October 25, 2010 1:59 pm

    @ F:

    Yeah, I don’t have the link, but I saw where DC is the Depression-proof City. They have actually increased workforce there while everyone else is being laid off. Ropes and trees, torches and pitchforks…


  99. m
    101 | October 25, 2010 2:00 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    She’s splitting the R’s trying to guarantee a D win. *spit*


  100. waldensianspirit
    102 | October 25, 2010 2:01 pm

    @ F:
    Whoa, just mean. Why wouldn’t someone wanting nursing jobs take enough interest in the tools of the trade to know how to turn it back on.(Such machines should not be so easy to turn off)

    Also I wonder if he was setup in case his home experienced a power outtage


  101. mjazz
    103 | October 25, 2010 2:02 pm

    For our neighbors North of us:
    Canada to increase number of Iraqi refugees in coming year


  102. Bob in Breckenridge
    104 | October 25, 2010 2:03 pm

    snork wrote:

    Heh.
    According to two witnesses, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia took fellow Justice Elena Kagan out for a lesson in skeet shooting at his shooting club in Virginia last week.
    I guess she is one of the boys…

    Too bad he couldn’t have pulled a Cheney…


  103. waldensianspirit
    105 | October 25, 2010 2:06 pm

    @ snork:
    Maybe he’s thinking with her handling guns she might not make bad court decision based on her fear of them


  104. randian
    106 | October 25, 2010 2:07 pm

    5,141 privately developed, mixed-income units — 1,200 as public housing, 932 for working-class families, and 3,009 for sale or rental at market rates

    Who in their right mind will knowingly buy or rent “market housing” next to public housing, given what we know about the pathologies inherent to public housing?


  105. F
    107 | October 25, 2010 2:08 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    FWIW- As much as I detest her, Murkowski is running as a Republican write-in candidate, and if by chance she wins, she’d still be an “R”, a RINO, but an “R”.

    Murkowski: GOP wants me to win

    Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski thinks national Republicans are secretly hoping she’ll win her write-in campaign and defeat GOP nominee Joe Miller.

    The National Republican Senatorial Committee has made clear it is backing Miller: It has sent staff, money and, as of this week, placed independent expenditure ads in the state on his behalf. But the GOP nominee has had a rough few weeks since he defeated Murkowski in the primary, including an incident on Sunday in which his private bodyguards arrested a reporter after a campaign event.

    The day after the scuffle, during which Alaska Dispatch Editor Tony Hopfinger was handcuffed and detained, the Anchorage Press asked Murkowski whether she thinks Republicans “are secretly hoping that you’ll win.”

    “Yes. Yes, I do. Definitely,” Murkowski told the alternative weekly newspaper. She said she expects a warm welcome from her “colleagues on both sides of the aisle” if she wins.

    “They need my vote,” she said. “And let me tell you — when you win, it’s a whole different story out there. Because then you’re a player. Right now I’m a write-in candidate and I’m not my party’s nominee and [Republican leaders] are looking at the situation and saying, ‘We have to stick by the process,’ so they’re doing about what I expected of them, which is they’re standing by the party nominee. They may not be doing it gladly, but that’s what they’re doing.”


  106. 108 | October 25, 2010 2:09 pm

    @ randian:

    I wouldn’t. It is bad enough to live within rifle-shot of a private trailer park (even a nice one). I wouldn’t want to be in the “splash-down” zone if one of the Boyz in da Hood decides to blast a box into the sky with his AK 47…


  107. Bob in Breckenridge
    109 | October 25, 2010 2:10 pm

    m wrote:

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    She’s splitting the R’s trying to guarantee a D win. *spit*

    Rasmussen has Alaska “Solid GOP”…Miller 35%, Murkowski 34%, and the dimocrat MacAdams at 27% with 3% undecided.


  108. mjazz
    110 | October 25, 2010 2:10 pm

    @ randian:
    Immigrants who have just come from a war zone do.


  109. F
    111 | October 25, 2010 2:11 pm

    randian wrote:

    5,141 privately developed, mixed-income units — 1,200 as public housing, 932 for working-class families, and 3,009 for sale or rental at market rates

    Who in their right mind will knowingly buy or rent “market housing” next to public housing, given what we know about the pathologies inherent to public housing?

    Who in their right mind votes for someone who’s past and close associations are actively covered up by the national media, voting for them simply to “prove” they aren’t racist.


  110. NoThreat2U
    112 | October 25, 2010 2:11 pm

    @ F:
    That broad is delusional.


  111. 113 | October 25, 2010 2:11 pm

    @ F:

    When she speaks of the Party “Elite”, she could very well be correct. That mindset is the very thing that will force voters like me to form a new Party. And the Republicans will be as politically relevant as the Whigs if the entire base walks off. Somehow the highly-paid political consultants can’t seem to grasp that.


  112. F
    114 | October 25, 2010 2:13 pm

    m wrote:

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    She’s splitting the R’s trying to guarantee a D win. *spit*

    I suspect that may be her intent, piss on the voters who soundly rejected her in the primary.


  113. 115 | October 25, 2010 2:13 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    Murkowski won’t win unless Miller just gives up. They have to all spell her name right on the write-in. Challenge the votes, and lead the way against the Establishment…


  114. Bob in Breckenridge
    116 | October 25, 2010 2:14 pm

    @ m:
    @ F:

    BTW, I think when push comes to shove, Miller will win. My edu-ma-cated guess is the 3% undecided are not decided on whether to vote for Miller or Murkowski, and they’ll break for Miller.


  115. 117 | October 25, 2010 2:14 pm

    This is funny. It is short and to the point. Five reasons your political party is doomed :evil:


  116. Bob in Breckenridge
    118 | October 25, 2010 2:14 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Right. See my #116.


  117. mjazz
    119 | October 25, 2010 2:14 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    I’m all for a third party. Independents run all the time and get elected.


  118. m
    120 | October 25, 2010 2:16 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    Luckily.

    I don’t think she is running because she thinks she is best for Alaska. She is running because they shit her out of HER SPOT.

    *pffft*

    I’d feel better if it was Miller 60% McAdams @ 40% without the Murk variable. (70/30 would be even better)


  119. F
    121 | October 25, 2010 2:17 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    And the Republicans will be as politically relevant as the Whigs if the entire base walks off.

    Irony galore when you consider the Republican party replaced/succeeded the Whigs in the 1850′s.


  120. 122 | October 25, 2010 2:18 pm

    @ mjazz:

    That is especially true down-ticket. Maybe we hold our nose and vote GOP for President, that doesn’t mean we have to vote GOP for Senate, Congress, dogcatcher, or whatever. Piss us off GOP “elites”, go ahead. You write your own obituary, if you do. They don’t believe that. That is why we will probably have to do it.


  121. Bob in Breckenridge
    123 | October 25, 2010 2:18 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    This is funny. It is short and to the point. Five reasons your political party is doomed

    Speaking of the Daily Beast, Rush just said that Howard Kurtz left the Washington ComPost to go to the Daily Beast. How pathetic must that paper be that one of their marquee names quits to go write for some blog 95% of the people have never heard of?


  122. 124 | October 25, 2010 2:20 pm

    @ F:

    Yep. We are very much in the same kind of position here today as they were in 1855 or so. We have Arizona to sub for Bleeding Kansas, the whole Liberal Big-Government Progressive Faith as slavery, and lots of pissed off Americans taking the part of the secessionists, perhaps.


  123. Bob in Breckenridge
    125 | October 25, 2010 2:21 pm

    @ m:

    I still think Miller will win, and rather easily, by 5-10 points in the three-way race.


  124. randian
    126 | October 25, 2010 2:21 pm

    mjazz wrote:

    @ randian:
    Immigrants who have just come from a war zone do.

    I have no doubt they’d want to, but people leaving war zones are notoriously destitute. How will said immigrants afford to rent (let alone buy) market-rate housing?


  125. 127 | October 25, 2010 2:22 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    Yeah, it tells you what the conversations around the water cooler must be like there. I’ll quit the Washington Post to write for the Daily Beast. Because of the historic performance of the Daily Beast


  126. randian
    128 | October 25, 2010 2:23 pm

    F wrote:

    Who in their right mind votes for someone who’s past and close associations are actively covered up by the national media, voting for them simply to “prove” they aren’t racist.

    True Believers


  127. 129 | October 25, 2010 2:25 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    I agree with you there. At the end of the day, the only person that has done that was Strom Thurmond, and that was over seggregation, not because Princess wants a new pony. I doubt Murkowski has as big a following as polls suggest, but it is depressing that it is as big as it is. All those people are just wanting pork from the trough for Alaska, and they think (probably rightly) Princess can better deliver that. Most of the Miller voters probably don’t think there should be pork in the first place…


  128. mjazz
    130 | October 25, 2010 2:25 pm

    @ randian:
    To be fair, a lot of immigrants near me have gone to work and bought houses in areas that aren’t the best. For a lot of them it’s a step up.
    There are incentives for first time buyers, also.


  129. Bob in Breckenridge
    131 | October 25, 2010 2:28 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Egg-zactly.


  130. m
    132 | October 25, 2010 2:29 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    I do too. *fingers, eyes & toes crossed*

    But it doesn’t change the fact that she’s trying to punish the voters that didn’t pick her for the nomination.


  131. F
    133 | October 25, 2010 2:29 pm

    And now some leftie blogger in Washington State wants voters to sign their by-mail ballots and send them to him to get filled in:

    New: BlatherWatch voting service!


  132. snork
    134 | October 25, 2010 2:29 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    This is funny. It is short and to the point. Five reasons your political party is doomed

    Sound like Chuck. Which means when his party does get whumped, he’s going to say he wanted it. You heard it here first. :twisted:


  133. The Osprey
    135 | October 25, 2010 2:32 pm

    mjazz wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    I’m all for a third party. Independents run all the time and get elected.

    I hope Tancredo will be next Gov. of Colorado.

    The lefties will sh** bricks.


  134. 136 | October 25, 2010 2:37 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    I am with you there. It sounds like it will be close. Tell Lobo to vote Eleventy times :mrgreen:


  135. NoThreat2U
    137 | October 25, 2010 2:42 pm

    (Washington Examiner)- U.S. Special envoy Richard Holbrooke said Sunday that reconciliation talks between Karzai and Taliban leaders are not full-fledged peace negotiations but informal discussions between the two groups.

    “It’s certainly not another Vietnam, … and it is certainly not hopeless,” Holbrooke said Sunday during an appearance on CNN’s “Fareed Zakaria GPS.”

    But retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely disagrees with Holbrook’s assessment and told The Examiner that, ”it looks like the senior leadership is working for a negotiated settlement and then we will withdraw just like Vietnam.”

    The Administration and some of our military commanders are “pandering to the enemy and giving a disorganized group of criminal insurgents a power they should never be granted – we’re not going to see this through and believe me we’re making a serious mistake,” said a military official in Afghanistan.

    A young soldier who spoke from Afghanistan via telephone questioned why he was fighting. “If we’re not here to win the war with the military, then what are we here for? I think that’s the question that the administration – if we’re not here to succeed then what are we dying for?”


  136. 138 | October 25, 2010 10:46 pm

    F wrote:

    randian wrote:
    5,141 privately developed, mixed-income units — 1,200 as public housing, 932 for working-class families, and 3,009 for sale or rental at market rates
    Who in their right mind will knowingly buy or rent “market housing” next to public housing, given what we know about the pathologies inherent to public housing?
    Who in their right mind votes for someone who’s past and close associations are actively covered up by the national media, voting for them simply to “prove” they aren’t racist.

    Bingo.

    Part of the reason I live in a motorhome is that I can avoid living in densely-populated areas of any type.


  137. 139 | October 25, 2010 11:48 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    Cities Setting Age Limits for Trick-or-Treaters
    Posted on October 25, 2010
    by Nanny State Liberation Front| 6 Comments
    Los Angeles has even made a tradition of banning ‘silly string’ for one night only.
    Big government bureaucrats have taken it upon themselves to tell kids when they are too old to go trick-or-treating on Halloween because they say parents have dropped the ball.
    Mayor Mark Eckert of Belleville, Ill., explains that his father knew when he was “too big” to wear a costume and go door-to-door collecting candy. Today, he says teenagers need to be taught the same lesson.
    “When I was a kid my father said to me, ‘You’re too big to be going trick-or-treating. You’re done,’” Eckert said. “When that doesn’t happen, then that’s reason for the city governments to intervene.”
    No word on whether Eckert believes it should be government’s responsibility or that of parents to give kids the talk about Santa Claus.

    ? ? ?
    As an adult, some years ago when my stepdaughter was little, I dressed up in a matching costume to take her out trick-or-treating. Her father and I were too afraid of crime to let her go out alone. I would not have wanted some city gummint chucklehead telling me I was too old to do that!


  138. 140 | October 26, 2010 8:25 am

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