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Frank Tending The Machine

by Bunk X ( 91 Comments › )
Filed under Art, Humor, Open thread at November 29th, 2010 - 11:00 pm

For those of you who have never run across the artwork of Jim Woodring, you’re missing out on some of the most surreal (and sometimes disturbing) pen and inkwork that I’ve seen. Woodring based a lot of his subject matter on hallucinations he had as a child, and decided to record them on paper.

His most recognizable character is Frank, a good guy who goes on bizarre adventures, often accompanied by Madame Pupshaw (sort of a cat) and Pushpaw (sort of a dog). None of the characters speak.

As a special added bonus for all Blogmockers, here’s a short video of Frank, Madame Pupshaw and Pushpaw in action:

Woodring’s online store is awesome. It’s full of delightful oddness, perfect gifts for the hard-to-get, and presented for your review on The Overnight Open Thread.

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  1. 1 | November 29, 2010 11:06 pm

    Nice cartoon.


  2. song_and_dance_man
    2 | November 29, 2010 11:10 pm

    LOLcats from before.


  3. 3 | November 29, 2010 11:15 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Nice cartoon.

    The guy is awesome. I ordered some stuff for my mom’s birthday a couple of years ago, asked him if he’d autograph a book. (Mom is suffering alzheimers, but she always liked good artwork.) Woodring went over and above, included a freehand drawing of Frank in the book’s inset.


  4. coldwarrior
    4 | November 29, 2010 11:16 pm

    the cartoon…its like eischer meets the very early mickey mouse…


  5. unspecial
    5 | November 29, 2010 11:20 pm

    Why don’t stuff like this get in the Smithsonian?


  6. lobo91
    6 | November 29, 2010 11:20 pm

    Urgh…NatGeo assholes.

    Follow up the presentation of an outstanding documentary with utter garbage about the Mexican cartels getting their guns from US gun stores.


  7. mjazz
    7 | November 29, 2010 11:21 pm

    @ Bunk X:
    My father has alzheimer’s.


  8. 8 | November 29, 2010 11:22 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    the cartoon…its like eischer meets the very early mickey mouse…

    Escher’s work was mostly woodcuts and lithographs. Woodring mimics woodcuts with pen and ink. One of these days I’d like to meet him.


  9. 9 | November 29, 2010 11:25 pm

    mjazz wrote:

    @ Bunk X:
    My father has alzheimer’s.

    Sorry to hear that. My dad is beginning to show signs… Let’s not kill the OOT with depressing news… I come here to have fun.


  10. unspecial
    10 | November 29, 2010 11:26 pm

    @ lobo91:
    We should build a big wall to save Mexico.
    Viva Mexico.


  11. unspecial
    11 | November 29, 2010 11:27 pm

    @ mjazz:
    Sorry.


  12. lobo91
    12 | November 29, 2010 11:27 pm

    unspecial wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    We should build a big wall to save Mexico.
    Viva Mexico.

    Only if we can put Bloomberg on the other side of it first.

    And Hillary Clinton.


  13. mjazz
    13 | November 29, 2010 11:28 pm

    Why did he have hallucinations as a kid?


  14. rain of lead
    14 | November 29, 2010 11:31 pm

    hey ya’ll
    have you guys seen THIS!

    U.S. Army Unveils ‘Revolutionary’ XM25 Rifle in Afghanistan

    After years of development, the U.S. Army has unleashed a new weapon in Afghanistan — the XM25 Counter Defilade Target Engagement System, a high-tech rifle that can be programmed so that its 25-mm. ammunition detonates either in front of or behind a target, meaning it can be fired just above a wall before it explodes and kills the enemy.

    It also has a range of roughly 2,300 feet — nearly the length of eight football fields — making it possible to fire at targets well past the range of the rifles and carbines that most soldiers carry today.

    “With this weapon system, we take away cover from [enemy targets] forever,” Lehner told FoxNews.com on Wednesday. “Tactics are going to have to be rewritten. The only thing we can see [enemies] being able to do is run away.”

    “We have found that this has really made our soldiers so much more accurate and being able to deliver this high-explosive round in about five seconds,” said Lehner, taking into account the time it takes a soldier to laze, aim and fire the weapon. Once fired, Lehner said, the round will reach its target in a “second or two,” meaning the entire process from aiming to direct hit lasts less than 10 seconds, compared to 10 minutes or longer for traditional mortar fire.

    A potential battlefield scenario, according to Army officials, might go something like this:

    – A patrol encounters an enemy combatant in a walled Afghan village who fires an AK-47 intermittently from behind cover, exposing himself only for a brief second to fire.

    – The patrol’s leader calls for the XM25 gunman, who uses the weapon’s laser range finder to calculate the distance to the target.

    – He then uses an incremental button located near the trigger to add 1 meter to the round’s distance, since the enemy is hiding behind a wall.

    – The round is fired, and it explodes with a blast comparable to a hand grenade past the wall and above the enemy.

    “This is a game-changer,” Lehner said. “The enemy has learned to get cover, for hundreds if not thousands of years.

    “Well, they can’t do that anymore. We’re taking that cover from them and there’s only two outcomes: We’re going to get you behind that cover or force you to flee. So no matter what, we gotcha.”

    …this is one SWEET looking weapon..


  15. mjazz
    15 | November 29, 2010 11:31 pm

    @ Bunk X:
    I know. Just thought I’d mention because you did. Get’s scary when you start forgetting stuff, and, before we move on, I just wanna mention that it seems like almost every other person you run into has a parent who has some form of that.


  16. mjazz
    16 | November 29, 2010 11:33 pm

    @ unspecial:
    I say bases along the border in Arizona every 15 to twenty miles.


  17. mjazz
    17 | November 29, 2010 11:33 pm

    @ unspecial:
    thanks


  18. Philip_Daniel
    18 | November 29, 2010 11:34 pm

    I’m not much of a “Japanimation” fan, but this is a well-done loose-adaptation of Hellenic Mythology, from 1986, entitled Arion

    Part 1


  19. unspecial
    19 | November 29, 2010 11:34 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Even better, loan them all our progressives, until Mexico surpasses the USA.


  20. 20 | November 29, 2010 11:36 pm

    mjazz wrote:

    Why did he have hallucinations as a kid?

    I don’t know. That’s his story. Apparently he dropped out of art school because of them.


  21. 21 | November 29, 2010 11:38 pm

    @ mjazz:
    Cool with me. I only mentioned it because Woodring went the extra mile.


  22. mjazz
    22 | November 29, 2010 11:41 pm

    @ rain of lead:
    So when does Obama start selling it to his friends the peaceful Muslims?


  23. lobo91
    23 | November 29, 2010 11:43 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    It’s basically a development of the grenade launcher portion of the old OICW (Objective Individual Combat Weapon) project from the late ’90s.

    The results from the Afghanistan deployment should be interesting. I hope it’s durable enough to survive over there.


  24. Bagua
    24 | November 29, 2010 11:45 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    It is a game changer. Literally a “rain of lead,” as the weapon delivers an air-burst of shrapnel over the targets heads. It is like having a mini-bomber over-watch on every patrol. One capable of close in support and pin point accuracy.


  25. Philip_Daniel
    25 | November 29, 2010 11:46 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    Wow! I love it! Make those mujahedeen taste the death they so desire!


    If you refuse the jizyah, then we will bring against you a people who love death more than you love drinking wine.


  26. Philip_Daniel
    26 | November 29, 2010 11:47 pm

    Ok, I’ll post part 2 of the cartoon…


  27. rain of lead
    27 | November 29, 2010 11:52 pm

    Bagua wrote:

    @ rain of lead:
    It is a game changer. Literally a “rain of lead,” as the weapon delivers an air-burst of shrapnel over the targets heads. It is like having a mini-bomber over-watch on every patrol. One capable of close in support and pin point accuracy.

    heh
    think I just got me a new avitar


  28. coldwarrior
    28 | November 29, 2010 11:52 pm

    global warming

    Britain’s worst November snowfall for decades shut schools and roads from Cornwall to Scotland as forecasters warned that Siberian winds could bring temperatures as low as minus 20C in the coming days.

    minus 20 C windchill…-70F!!! I sure hope that the -20C is a typo!


  29. 29 | November 29, 2010 11:54 pm

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  30. Bagua
    31 | November 29, 2010 11:57 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Shhh! Don’t you know 2010 is the hottest year or something?


  31. Philip_Daniel
    32 | November 29, 2010 11:57 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    global warming
    Britain’s worst November snowfall for decades shut schools and roads from Cornwall to Scotland as forecasters warned that Siberian winds could bring temperatures as low as minus 20C in the coming days.
    minus 20 C windchill…-70F!!! I sure hope that the -20C is a typo!

    Climate Injustice, indeed!

    This calls for keeping the poor poor and making the rich poor through Utopian Socialist Wealth Distribution!


  32. Philip_Daniel
    33 | November 30, 2010 12:01 am

    Part 3

    Take a look at the woman in the foreground c. 1:28 in — she turns her head at around 180°!

    Ah, the possibilities inherent in drawing…


  33. coldwarrior
    34 | November 30, 2010 12:02 am

    @ Bagua:
    @ Philip_Daniel:

    -70F wind chill is lethal.

    so…BILLIONS WILL DIE!!!!


  34. Bagua
    35 | November 30, 2010 12:08 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Possibly, the actual science shows that cold is a far greater killer than warmth.

    Add to this the obvious fact that the Climate Delusion™ is greatly threatening food production, both indirectly and directly, and yes, we have a situation in which Global Warming Alarmism could cause millions of deaths world-wide.


  35. Philip_Daniel
    36 | November 30, 2010 12:10 am

    Bagua wrote:

    Possibly, the actual science shows that cold is a far greater killer than warmth.

    Civilization thrives during warming periods, declines during cooling periods.


  36. unspecial
    37 | November 30, 2010 12:11 am

    @ Bagua:
    The people who believe this stuff do not produce food.


  37. 38 | November 30, 2010 12:11 am

    Bagua wrote:

    @ rain of lead:
    It is a game changer. Literally a “rain of lead,” as the weapon delivers an air-burst of shrapnel over the targets heads. It is like having a mini-bomber over-watch on every patrol. One capable of close in support and pin point accuracy.

    It will work only if the ROE allow our troops to use it whenever necessary.


  38. mjazz
    39 | November 30, 2010 12:12 am

    @ coldwarrior:
    We’re doomed™


  39. Philip_Daniel
    40 | November 30, 2010 12:14 am

    1389AD wrote:

    It will work only if the ROE allow our troops to use it whenever necessary.

    The Rules of Engagement only permit us to “live under the Muslim rule & agree to pay the Jizyah.”

    I. Am. Serious. Our RoE = National Suicide.


  40. lobo91
    41 | November 30, 2010 12:14 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    minus 20 C windchill…-70F!!! I sure hope that the -20C is a typo!

    -20 C is only -4 F, not -70


  41. coldwarrior
    42 | November 30, 2010 12:18 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    minus 20 C windchill…-70F!!! I sure hope that the -20C is a typo!
    -20 C is only -4 F, not -70

    yer right…i converted on the fly!

    still way too damn cold for the UK.

    (this is what i get for trying to write posts and read this at the same time)


  42. lobo91
    43 | November 30, 2010 12:20 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Leia says that sounds pretty nice.


  43. coldwarrior
    44 | November 30, 2010 12:23 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Leia says that sounds pretty nice.

    she can have it.


  44. coldwarrior
    45 | November 30, 2010 12:24 am

    night all!


  45. lobo91
    46 | November 30, 2010 12:24 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    She has the fur for it.


  46. lobo91
    47 | November 30, 2010 12:24 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Night


  47. Bagua
    48 | November 30, 2010 12:26 am

    Philip_Daniel wrote:

    Civilization thrives during warming periods, declines during cooling periods.

    History says just that.


  48. Philip_Daniel
    49 | November 30, 2010 12:34 am

    Bagua wrote:

    Philip_Daniel wrote:
    Civilization thrives during warming periods, declines during cooling periods.

    History says just that.

    …Which indicates how truly anti-Civilization al-Gor’ists truly are, given their dread at the notion of the atmosphere warming even ever-so-slightly-as-to-be-nearly-imperceptible…


  49. Philip_Daniel
    50 | November 30, 2010 12:36 am

    Philip_Daniel wrote:

    al-Gor’ists al-Gor’at

    Much better — notice I used the feminine Arabic plural suffix “-at”, not the masculine “-in”…


  50. yenta-fada
    51 | November 30, 2010 12:40 am

    Herman Munster tells Israel to give itself to the Arabs;

    http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/11/29/wikileaked_john_kerry_calls_for_israel_to_cede_golan_heights_and_east_jerusalem


  51. 52 | November 30, 2010 12:49 am

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    Climate Injustice, indeed!

    This calls for keeping the poor poor and making the rich poor through Utopian Socialist Wealth Distribution!

    There was an interesting comment in Military Magazine, December issue, entitled “Irresponsible ignorance allows socialist errors.” Unfortunately, there are no links on their website. What caught my eye was this paragraph especially:

    “According to socialist strategy, control of the economy allows the control of every aspect of life. Control of energy allows the control of the economy. Control of fossil fuel (the socialist term for petroleum and coal) allows the control of energy. Control of carbon dioxide (literally, your breath) allows the control of every aspect of life.” –Sheldon B. Graham, Jr.

    There’s more to the article than just that paragraph. Maybe I’ll scan it in for a post.


  52. yenta-fada
    53 | November 30, 2010 12:51 am

    All of Drudge tonight looks like an issue of The Onion. It’s crazy out there.


  53. Bagua
    54 | November 30, 2010 12:51 am

    @ Bunk X:

    Good idea.


  54. yenta-fada
    56 | November 30, 2010 1:13 am

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    Isn’t all of that a clear statement of what most Muslims believe? It is official CAIR, ISNA, MSA, Muslim Brotherhood, Iran, Turkey, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, etc. doctrine, no? There were never a tiny majority of extremists, but the West persists in this delusion. The 70′s oil money fed radicals and still do so. The dimmhi governments must honestly believe they can ‘negotiate’. They have never fought to win.


  55. mjazz
    57 | November 30, 2010 1:15 am

    It seems like the civilizations that had to learn to deal with the cold did better.


  56. Bagua
    58 | November 30, 2010 1:25 am

    @ mjazz:

    Funny that.

    Not coincidentally, they needed fuel to survive the cold. They developed a strong supply of coal, and later oil and natural gas. That same fuel proved useful for more than heating and cooking, it fueled the transportation and manufacturing revolution that “developed” the modern world.


  57. Bob in Breckenridge
    59 | November 30, 2010 1:32 am

    Desiree Bassett- 15 yr old girl guitarist playing “Dreams” by Van Halen…Oh, and she’s really good, although her singing isn’t the greatest.


  58. yenta-fada
    60 | November 30, 2010 1:33 am

    Here are some tips for travel for those who want to get out and have fun in the upcoming global warming;

    http://www.travelyukon.com/winterpackages?utm_source=casale&utm_content=s699&utm_campaign=wintercampaign2010


  59. 61 | November 30, 2010 1:49 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    minus 20 C windchill…-70F!!! I sure hope that the -20C is a typo!
    -20 C is only -4 F, not -70

    yer right…i converted on the fly!
    still way too damn cold for the UK.
    (this is what i get for trying to write posts and read this at the same time)


  60. 62 | November 30, 2010 1:55 am

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    Hasn’t she been 15 for about 10 years by now?


  61. 63 | November 30, 2010 2:07 am

    [...] [Crossposted here.] [...]


  62. Mongoose
    64 | November 30, 2010 2:29 am

    *sniffs at #63 and thinking SpamBat would be a nice snack*


  63. Bob in Breckenridge
    65 | November 30, 2010 3:10 am

    @ Bunk X:
    She’s actually 18 now, born in 1992. But the video was recorded when she was 15.


  64. 66 | November 30, 2010 3:48 am

    Mongoose wrote:

    *sniffs at #63 and thinking SpamBat would be a nice snack*

    Yeah, one rare blogwhoring crosspost. I don’t see you chewing on any of 1389′s tweets.


  65. ThreeHundred
    67 | November 30, 2010 4:01 am

    mjazz wrote:

    It seems like the civilizations that had to learn to deal with the cold did better.

    I guess I’m pretty much at a dead end here in Hawaii then.


  66. 68 | November 30, 2010 5:44 am

    Morning, anyone still awake?


  67. 69 | November 30, 2010 6:04 am

    Well for those of you awake and lurking, here’s the start of our photo walk Christmas/Anniversary party.


  68. huckfunn
    70 | November 30, 2010 6:27 am

    Hey Cold. Just a quick drive-by. I guess you saw the news that TCU will be joining the Big East. Frogs and Panthers will be bangin heads next year.


  69. 71 | November 30, 2010 6:31 am

    We need to pass this START treaty, or the Russians won’t trust us:

    Russia Positions Warheads Near NATO Allies, Fueling U.S. Concern

    Published November 30, 2010| The Wall Street Journal
    AP

    The U.S. believes Russia has moved short-range tactical nuclear warheads to facilities near North Atlantic Treaty Organization allies as recently as this spring, U.S. officials say, adding to questions in Congress about Russian compliance with long-standing pledges ahead of a possible vote on a new arms-control treaty.

    U.S. officials say the movement of warheads to facilities bordering NATO allies appeared to run counter to pledges made by Moscow starting in 1991 to pull tactical nuclear weapons back from frontier posts and to reduce their numbers. The U.S. has long voiced concerns about Russia’s lack of transparency when it comes to its arsenal of tactical nuclear weapons, believed to be many times the number possessed by the U.S.

    You know, I don’t expect thousands of Russian tanks to come storming through the Fulda Gap if we sign this treaty, but I am suspicious of its utility when the Russians are already in breach of promises made to us since 1991 about their tactical weapons. There seems little point in sigining yet another treaty that America will live up to but the other side will not. We have enough of those treaties on the books now.


  70. Bumr50
    72 | November 30, 2010 6:31 am

    @ PaladinPhil:

    Morning!

    It’s nice to get together this time of year.

    The wife and I recently celebrated our first anniversary at a place here in Pittsburgh, and our table was so awesome that I wished that I had a camera with me.

    This image was taken from our table (not by us!).

    If you’re ever near Pittsburgh and need a nice dinner, I highly recommend the Monterey Bay Fish Grotto. Used to work there, never seen a bad experience.


  71. Bumr50
    73 | November 30, 2010 6:34 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    We are Charlie Brown to their Lucy.


  72. 74 | November 30, 2010 6:35 am

    Top o’ the mornin’, all!


  73. 75 | November 30, 2010 6:36 am

    @ huckfunn:

    From a Louisville fan, welcome to the Big East.


  74. 76 | November 30, 2010 6:41 am

    @ Bumr50:
    I have a list. :p

    /always growing never shrinking


  75. 77 | November 30, 2010 6:42 am

    @ Bumr50:

    Pretty much. You can’t really blame the Russians for taking advantage of us if they can. They have to do what is in their national interest. We just shouldn’t be fools and sign on to this. We need desperately to modernize our weapons and to develop the “micronukes” tactical weapons that Bush tried to get started and the Republican Senate (John McCain) killed. Russia is no longer our main strategic concern, and we shouldn’t be making treaties pretending otherwise. Our main strategic concern is the Ummah, our main enemy Islam. That is what we should be posturing our strategic weapons to fight.


  76. 78 | November 30, 2010 6:45 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Whenever we do this we smell of weakness and fear. In an agreement, everyone should get something, and the more I read of START, the less I see how we benefit. No, I don’t trust Russia. On the other hand, I sense no real fear of imminant war with them, either. As Reagan said, “Trust, but verify” – that, plus actual benefits to US should be the starting point of all arms control talks.

    When your stated objective is, as Obama has stated, to rid the world of nuclear weapons, you’ve already pretty much lost since you’ve shown your hand.


  77. 79 | November 30, 2010 6:54 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Ridding the world of nuclear weapons isn’t a realistic goal. It is also unclear as to how this will make things better, as historically war is much more common and brutal in a nuclear free world. What you do when you disarm is give massive incentives to those would would cheat. Nothing more. Weakness invites attack. If we were to unilatterally disarm, that would simply make attack on us inevitible. OTOH, if we had a policy of utterly destroying anyone who attacked us, we would, at most, be attacked only once.


  78. 80 | November 30, 2010 7:09 am

    Okay, got to drag my sorry ass off to work. See you folks later on.


  79. 81 | November 30, 2010 7:28 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Ridding the world of nuclear weapons isn’t a realistic goal. It is also unclear as to how this will make things better, as historically war is much more common and brutal in a nuclear free world. What you do when you disarm is give massive incentives to those would would cheat. Nothing more. Weakness invites attack. If we were to unilatterally disarm, that would simply make attack on us inevitible. OTOH, if we had a policy of utterly destroying anyone who attacked us, we would, at most, be attacked only once.

    Absolutely. The world has been literally free of conflict between major powers for more than 60 years, primarily, I think, due to the fear that a conflict could go nuclear. Nukes have been a major reason for the reletive peace we now enjoy.

    Alas, that strategy only works between developed, and somewhat reasonable nations. Should we allow rogue states like Iran and North Korea to become fully operational nuclear states we all (including Russia and China) will be the losers; that is where the real threat lies in the modern world. China is becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the destabilizing antics of North Korea, and the Muslim world, while still enemies of the US, are far more fearful of Iran than they would appear from the outside.

    And let’s not forget Pakistan and India. While India becomes more developed by the day, Pakistan is following the opposite road. Pakistan’s nuclear capability is the stuff of nightmares.

    If anything, we should be modernizing our arsenal to meet the challenges that we currently face, and those challenges are real and grave. Talk about a “nuclear free world” are, as you say unrealistic, and are the stuff of sheer fantasy to anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of the real, and very dangerous world.


  80. mawskrat
    82 | November 30, 2010 7:40 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    in the Left Behind series the one world leader
    convinces all countries to give thier nukes to
    him.

    //trust me it’s for your ow good


  81. Bumr50
    83 | November 30, 2010 7:45 am

    @ mawskrat:

    I enjoyed the first two books.

    I’ve heard that the the rest, er, not so much, but I haven’t read them. Any thoughts?


  82. Bumr50
    84 | November 30, 2010 7:54 am

    Someone needs to tell Kourtney Kardashian that she looks REALLY ugly in that getup on F &F.


  83. 85 | November 30, 2010 8:04 am

    @ Bumr50:

    Kardassians never look good with the off-the-shoulder look. It’s the scales…

    :mrgreen:


  84. 86 | November 30, 2010 8:15 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    *boooo* *Hissssss*

    /sad, I was thinking of Cardassians too when I saw her name passing through the malls food court this morning.


  85. 87 | November 30, 2010 8:20 am

    Obama should have to answer for :

    But — as the Wikileaks disclosures make clear — Israeli concessions have (and had) nothing at all to do with stopping Iran. Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries wanted Iran crushed — as King Abdullah put it, “cut off the head of the snake” — period.

    Let me repeat: Obama knew all along that Israeli concessions had nothing to do with stopping Iran’s march to nuclear weapons. Yet he persisted in linking the two, even though it raised the risk of an atomic conflagration that could engulf the world.

    I’d like to know: does it get any more irresponsible than that?

    Of course, you won’t see the MFM (not even Fox News) raise that question to teh Won. I wish they would. It would be interesting to watch Obama’s head spin around while he was puking pea soup…


  86. citizen_q
    88 | November 30, 2010 8:40 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    Additionally it would be interesting to see the response of j-street and abe foxman, norman finkelstein, noam chumpsky, and other so-called friends of Israel, Jews and the wrongly named peace process.


  87. 89 | November 30, 2010 8:54 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Obama’s palpable antagonism toward Israel, and warmth toward her enemies is destructive to everything we have tried to accomplish in the Middle East. It’s so obvious that it’s vitually impossible to assume anything other than that destruction of previous policy is premeditated.

    If there were ever any doubt, his decision to not support, even verbally, the Iranians during the uprising in the summer of ’09 erased it. He lent tacit support to the current regime and the US missed a golden opprtunity to eliminate a major Islamist theocracy. There can be no other conclusion than his reticence was deliberate.

    He ignorantly believes that his policy shift will endear him to the Muslim world when, in fact, they may well end up hating him more than Bush. Weakness is despised and exploited in the Muslim world and I find it impossible that he doesn’t know that. Again, one can only assume that his moves, or lack thereof, are calculated to a specific end.

    Two more years of this is a frightening thought.


  88. coldwarrior
    90 | November 30, 2010 8:55 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    Hey Cold. Just a quick drive-by. I guess you saw the news that TCU will be joining the Big East. Frogs and Panthers will be bangin heads next year.

    Its a good thing too, the big east needs some cred in football something fierce.


  89. 91 | November 30, 2010 8:58 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Yep. I don’t disagree with any of that. For all I despise him, I do not believe that Obama is dumb. Weak, yes, that is obvious, but not dumb. He knows what he is doing, and is doing it because he wants the results he will get. That conclusion is inescapable.


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