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The Model Cities Program, What Was the Aftermath?
There is an assumption made in our country which I find troubling. That assumption is that we live in a vacuum cut off from our memories and evidence of current events which could shape our opinions. You probably need a few examples to understand, in context, what the heck I am talking about. Sometimes I’ll hear someone on the left refer to the, “discredited supply side policies of the past 8 years,” like the principles of a free market economy didn’t produce the wealthiest nation on the planet for the past 230 years. Sometimes I’ll hear someone on the left say, Canada and England have nationalized medical care which provide models we should follow, as if those systems haven’t in fact turned into complete disasters and act as a noose around the necks of the citizens of those nations. Proof of this is a full 57% of British Citizens admitting to performing their own woodshed tooth extractions despite having full free dental care provided. The traffic of Canadian Citizens popping up in American hospitals for cash only medical care staggers the imagination, especially considering their medical care is provided free. (In the previous two examples, free is the wrong word. there is a cost, it is just not paid by the individual citizen.) We are told endlessly by liberals how we need to spend more on public schools in urban areas because it is not fair that the education there lags behind those in suburban areas. Guess what, the 10 school districts which spend the most per student are also the 10 worst performing school districts in the country.
We have tried the policies the left advocates, just not on a national level. As it turns out, we have wonderful laboratories where liberalism has been allowed to reign, unchecked for decades at a time. One of those areas holds a special place in my heart. I lived in the Detroit area for 5 years, and can identify with the people who fell prey to the policies offered as a solution for the rest of us. I understand the desire of every person to help those people who need help, the question is, what is the best way to avoid those things which tug on our heart strings. When the policies people advocate to mitigate the disastrous effects of previous attempts at social engineering cause the problems which are so objectionable, at what point do we stop and reverse course? The best way to help people in need is allow them to pull themselves out of that strata of society.
Watch the video below to see the illustration of my point.
Detroit was a model city before the program, in fact it was in many ways the envy of the rest of the country. $400 Million from the taxpayers into the city in 1965 ultimately produced the results you see above. Think long and hard about what tomorrows vote looks like. If we as a nation continue down the Socialist path, this is what our future looks like.
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“The Epicenter is a proposed estimated $48 billion (Phase One) mass scale urban reclamation project for combating, reducing, reversing and/or eliminating poverty within under served communities by utilizing mass scale economic redevelopment to bring about stability and self reliance.
I love the last paragraph, emphasis mine. You mean $48 Billion ain’t enough? You clowns need more? We have passed the point of brazen and entered the Twilight Zone.
We are told endlessly by liberals how we need to spend more on public schools in urban areas because it is not fair that the education there lags behind those in suburban areas. Guess what, the 10 school districts which spend the most per student are also the 10 worst performing school districts in the country.
I am most familiar with the Chicago Public Schools, a profound failure.
A preference is given to graduates of Chicago State University to teach in the system. The graduates are usually at best semi-literate.
I think that you get bonus points if you get your name right the
first time.
The teachers do not have to pass a proficency test even in their
own subject, due to the union.
Many teachers are afraid of the students in their own class rooms.
The answer is not more money
South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint backed off his demand Wednesday to force a full reading of the New START treaty, a move that may ease a legislative logjam amid a flurry of activity in the waning days of the congressional session.
DeMint’s decision also signals that the long-debated START treaty may now have a serious chance to win ratification and hand the White House a major victory in the coming days. A procedural vote on the treaty Wednesday garnered 66 votes, a strong indicator that the treaty could pick up the 67 votes it needs for ratification.
For the Parent Trigger law to be invoked, a school must fail to meet federal academic standards for three consecutive years; have a score of less than 800 on the state’s Academic Performance Index, which is based on student test scores; and be among the lowest performing five percent of schools in the state.
There are many California schools that would qualify for parental action under the Parent Trigger law, according to the Los Angeles Daily News.
In the Los Angeles United School District alone, 250 schools have failed to meet academic standards for more than three years, the newspaper said.
Under this law, if the majority of a school’s parents agree, they can choose to close down the school, replace the entire staff, or convert it to a charter school. All that is required is a petition signed by 50 percent of the parents.
I am most familiar with the Chicago Public Schools, a profound failure.
A preference is given to graduates of Chicago State University to teach in the system. The graduates are usually at best semi-literate.
I think that you get bonus points if you get your name right the
first time.
The teachers do not have to pass a proficency test even in their
own subject, due to the union.
Many teachers are afraid of the students in their own class rooms.
The answer is not more money
You got that right. Ten years ago my ex asked me to join her in a parent-teacher session with our son, who was in sixth grade at the old Nathaniel Greene Elementary School on the South Side. It quickly turned into a Bash Dad exercise. I kept my mouth shut.
Then afterward, my ex takes me aside and tells me the reason she didn’t ask me on other sessions where they requested me was because she was afraid I would take her to Court for incompetence.
You don’t say, Bitch?
Not only do the Unions strangle teacher discipline…it goes hand-in-hand with parents (in this case, my son’s mother) who don’t give a damn and think their child is blameless in everything. Frak that!
All those abandoned houses need to be razed. Shovel ready, oh yeah. Time to pull the city boundaries in to fit the population and let nature take back the outskirts. Doppleganger showed some of the decaying city’s bizarre beauty in his pictures, but this video was depressing.
We are told endlessly by liberals how we need to spend more on public schools in urban areas because it is not fair that the education there lags behind those in suburban areas. Guess what, the 10 school districts which spend the most per student are also the 10 worst performing school districts in the country.
I am most familiar with the Chicago Public Schools, a profound failure.
A preference is given to graduates of Chicago State University to teach in the system. The graduates are usually at best semi-literate.
I think that you get bonus points if you get your name right the
first time.
The teachers do not have to pass a proficency test even in their
own subject, due to the union.
Many teachers are afraid of the students in their own class rooms.
The answer is not more money
As counterintuitive as it seems to most, the answer is never more money. Don’t get me wrong, more money is nice to have, the answer is what is done with it. Money has always been spent more efficiently by people with a stake in the consequences. This is why private schools will always out perform the public ones, while costing on average 67% per student for those schools. The only defense of this that the left is able to offer up is that there are not enough of those schools to accomodate the number of students. The absurdity of this flies against logic. We could always open more schools, thereby spurring economic growth, duh.
That costs money. Where’s it going to come from? I am afraid Detroit is just the forerunner of what is to come. The crash in commercial real estate is coming. What happens then?
Not only do the Unions strangle teacher discipline…it goes hand-in-hand with parents (in this case, my son’s mother) who don’t give a damn and think their child is blameless in everything. Frak that!
You had a bad experience. I would contrast Catholic schools & other
parochial schools with urban public school systems.
The funding is a fraction of the public schools & the class sizes
as much as three times.
Yet there is discipline & everybody comes out of grade school
proficient in basic skills.
The nuns demanded that you stand up straight & recite the pledge
with your hand over your heart, then a prayer.
No teachers union & you got to stay if you worked & behaved.
Mostly to the Unions and othe DNC supporters. That was simply theft on a grand scale. Change! And the Republicans don’t have the balls to call it like it is. We are ill served by our so-called leaders. I do question if our country can last.
There is a lot of conjecture that the crash in commercial real estate has already happened. I just received an e-mail today from Inland Real Estate that they were able to complete a total restructure of their debt package for Inland American Reit. The NAV is back up to $10.00 per share. This represents a complete recovery from the trough they hit 18 months ago.
Yes, I went to a Lutheran School for 7th and 8th grades, after we moved back to the States in 1972. BTW, it’s where I met my wife! That’s how long we’ve known each other.
Those two years instilled a lot of discipline in me which I lost for a while (during my first marriage), then got back over time.
@ Iron Fist:
Let the banks take a haircut on the properties they hold. Seriously. No more bailing them out and keeping artifiically high real estate values. Someone will buy if they are priced right. Problem is no one wants to price it that low.
You can’t give the stuff in Detroit away. You’d have to pay people to take it. Hell, I wouldn’t take it. Like Speranza said, you couldn’t pay me to fly into and out of Detroit, let alone invest in it by moving there.
As cothe public ones, while costing on average 67% per student for those schools.
unterintuitive as it seems to most, the answer is never more money. Don’t get me wrong, more money is nice to have, the answer is what is done with it. Money has always been spent more efficiently by people with a stake in the consequences. This is why private schools will always out perform
There are great public school districts , but not in urban environments.
The Union dominates & the whole thing becomes a job program for
members. It is all about getting out of the classromm & getting a cushy administrative job.
I know a young woman teaching in Chicago, who literally got picked
up & thrown against a wall by a student. The school administration
and the Union refused to help.
She now has another line of work
Maybe. I am not an expert, but I see an awful lot of commercial real estate vacant where I am. I realize people turn their nose up at the South, but I’d much rather live here than in New York or LA. I could make a lot larger salary in either place, but it just wouldn’t be worth it.
(KOB)- A woman suing the TSA for an invasive pat-down at the Albuquerque Sunport speaks only with KOB Eyewitness News 4.
Adrienne Durso of Carlsbad, California spoke over the phone – she describes her experience during a TSA pat-down at the Sunport back in August.
“Heavily concentrating on my breast area where I told her I had a mastectomy the year previous and in just seemed to go on and on,” said Durso.
She says she felt humiliated as the extensive pat-down happened in front of her 17 year old son and hundreds of other travelers.
“I felt as though I didn’t have any rights other than I had to stand there and let them do what they want to do to my body,” Durso continued.
She says she knew her rights had been violated so she asked to speak to a supervisor who she thought would help.
All the while her son stood by her side and couldn’t remain silent anymore
“My son, who I’m very proud of spoke up and said ‘I went through the metal detector and I did not get a pat-down’ to which the supervisor said ‘well you don’t have boobs’,” she said
My kids went to a great school. The standards have been slowly but consistently declining. The school has been putting a levy issue on the ballot twice a year for as long as I can remember. The union is slowly sucking the system dry. What is happening in Detroit is forshadowing. We will all face this if we don’t defeat the unions soon. The entire country has the disease of liberalism, if not the symptoms yet. We need to begin working on the cure now. Not in 2012, or next week even, but now.
It is the same with Commercial real estate. Much of it is simply not worth anything without businesses and jobs that need it. Like I said, I’m not an expert, but I see a lot of vacant property around.
It’s important to realize that of all asset classes, Real Estate is the most complicated. Different parts of the country, and indeed the world will behave differently. That being said, our economy has some real issues out there, but all in all, it is still stronger than Obama’s attempts to destroy it. As always, I’m an optimist.
We have a group here who is trying to open a charter school. It is located within the grounds of where nuns retire and the school building it will use is a former Christian Academy. At first the argument was “no” because of things like crosses built into the brick and stuff like that. Now, it is the local school district that is opposing it, over and over again. i really hope these people get their charter school. Parents everywhere need to send a message that schools will not be allowed to treat children this way.
“My son, who I’m very proud of spoke up and said ‘I went through the metal detector and I did not get a pat-down’ to which the supervisor said ‘well you don’t have boobs’,” she said
How much humiliation will we tolerate, sinking into submission?
That is what inquiring Obamas want to know.
@ RIX:
I am afraid of my own answer to that question. I just don’t think I could tolerate it. Consequences be damned. But we can be comforted with the knowledge of the Trusted Travellers program.//
“My son, who I’m very proud of spoke up and said ‘I went through the metal detector and I did not get a pat-down’ to which the supervisor said ‘well you don’t have boobs’,”
so the agent just wanted to squeeze her tittie
whats wrong with that?
@ RIX:
My kids went to a great school. The standards have been slowly but consistently declining. The school has been putting a levy issue on the ballot twice a year for as long as I can remember. The union is slowly sucking the system dry. What is happening in Detroit is forshadowing. We will all face this if we don’t defeat the unions soon. The entire country has the disease of liberalism, if not the symptoms yet. We need to begin working on the cure now. Not in 2012, or next week even, but now.
Things are upside down , It is all about wages & benefits not education.
Teachers need to be judged on proficiency & recieve “merit” pay.
Not only do the Unions strangle teacher discipline…it goes hand-in-hand with parents (in this case, my son’s mother) who don’t give a damn and think their child is blameless in everything. Frak that!
My wife’s a teacher. She couldn’t hold back a student if the parents didn’t allow it. I can only think of one she tried to flunk but the mom would have none of it, the meeting actually got pretty ugly as the mom was acting as if her son was being attacked or something. Several years later I saw the kid again, being booked into county.
I don’t think one can discuss this subject without discussing what has happened to Urban blacks. There was a time when blacks, poor or not, were family oriented. That tradition has been thoroughly destroyed; they have become a community of single-mother households, and this trend, in recent decades, has bled over to the white community, and society, in general. The State has usurped the role of the father, the provider and thus, the father feels no personal responsibiity, knowing that the State will pick up the slack.
This is interference in the basic instincts of human beings and it has forever altered the way we think and act. Remove consequences from our actions and our actions, necessarily, will become more reckless and more poorly considered. This is what we have wrought.
Places like Detroit are the phusical manifestations of denying our nature. The State improperly assumed that poverty was simply a lack of money when, in fact, it’s a lack of education, inspiration, motivation and opportunity. This improper assumption has caused the State to create a welfare state that provides people money, while virtually ignoring the real solutions to their dilemma. The end result is uneducated, uninspired, and unmotivated generations that are ill-equipped to recognize an opportunity if it bit them on the ass.
The point you emphasize in your essay is key: The greatest tragedy about Detroit is that we can’t learn from the mistakes that destroyed the city. The Left won’t learn and will do its best to keep others from learning.
The unions are dead-set against any sort of merit pay. They claim that it would “pit teachers against each other.”
The reality is that it would show what a bunch of slugs the majority of their members are.
And that’s what they fear. Seriously, over half of the teachers
in the Chicago system can’t verbally express themselves.
A real poor return on investment.
I went back to finish my BA in the late ’90s. I couldn’t believe the quality of the students they let into the teacher education program.
They took most of their classes within their own school. I’m convinced that was so the rest of the university wouldn’t see what a bunch of absolute morons they were.
There was a time when blacks, poor or not, were family oriented. That tradition has been thoroughly destroyed; they have become a community of single-mother households, and this trend, in recent decades, has bled over to the white community, and society, in general. The State has usurped the role of the father, the provider and thus, the father feels no personal responsibiity, knowing that the State will pick up the slack.
And of course, the social engineers on the left are unable to distinguish cause from effect.
They’ll all tell you that the problems in the black community are the result of unemployment and too much of their male population being in prison.
@ lobo91:
So what do we have to do…where do we begin to crush these fat cat unions? Seriously, I’m curious.
I guess one could go to school board meetings. Parents really need to get involved. Personally, I don’t have any children and spent 12 years in Catholic schools, so what do I know?
@ lobo91:
That is really depressing. Bankrupting states was discussed here. Good thread too IIRC. We may have to revisit that idea because things can’t keep going they way they are.
NoThreat2U wrote:
@ lobo91:
It should pit them against each other. Competition will lead to better teachers! If you suck, you are out of a job.
in every other field workers are ‘pitted’ against each other every day. its a good thing.
In every other field, workers get paid or promoted based on performance, rather than on how long they’ve been there.
@ RIX:
I went back to finish my BA in the late ’90s. I couldn’t believe the quality of the students they let into the teacher education program.
They took most of their classes within their own school. I’m convinced that was so the rest of the university wouldn’t see what a bunch of absolute morons they were.
I don’t doubt that for a minute & it’s a huge problem.
Tenure should go away, it’s an archaic holdover from
the McCarthy era.
@ coldwarrior:
Agreed! What the hell makes a teacher so special?
@ MacDuff:
This is one reason I hope I never have grandchildren. I fought with our school constantly and never got any results. Did you know that every little boy who didn’t sit still in his chair had ADD? Well it took about one week of medication and mood swings before I told the school to shove their suggestion up their ass. I purposely went to the school and pulled my daughter out when she was 17. She was being bullied and they wouldn’t do a thing about it. The smug principal came out smiling and asking me what was going on. After I told him that we already discussed the problem numerous times…face to face..he could take his school and shove it. I wish I would have put them in Catholic school from the beginning.
My wife’s a teacher. She couldn’t hold back a student if the parents didn’t allow it. I can only think of one she tried to flunk but the mom would have none of it, the meeting actually got pretty ugly as the mom was acting as if her son was being attacked or something. Several years later I saw the kid again, being booked into county.
In 2002, I found out our son had been brought up before a juvenile judge for assault charges against a teacher. Imagine that. The court asked me why I wasn’t involved, and I told them exactly why. Never heard from those bastards again.
in every other field workers are ‘pitted’ against each other every day. its a good thing.
The concept of “competition” is anathema in the whole of the “union environment”. That fact, alone, makes me virulently anti-union. It inhibits creativity and natural advancement on the part of employees and locks them into a mindset of “do only what you must do”.
“Up by one’s bootstraps” mentalities need not bother.
The concept of “competition” is anathema in the whole of the “union environment”. That fact, alone, makes me virulently anti-union. It inhibits creativity and natural advancement on the part of employees and locks them into a mindset of “do only what you must do”.
That one fact is probably the single biggest thing that brought down the American auto industry.
@ RIX:
Absolutely. If there ever was a reason for tenure in elementary and secondary schools, it’s long since gone away.
The claim that they need it to preserve “academic freedom” is absurd.
What kind of “academic freedom” do you need in order to teach kids to read?
Mike C. wrote:
@ rain of lead:
It’s beginning to look like the entire Republican party doesn’t have one testicle amongst the lot of them.
Palin has a couple.
Fox’s Megyn Kelly was not happy to hear that many Republicans have stuffed the omnibus spending bill full of earmarks. On her show Wednesday, she went after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (KY), Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) and Sen. Saxby Chmbliss (R-GA) for their earmarks. She also vowed to name more names on “both sides of the aisle.”
@ MacDuff:
United Airlines used to boast that they had the richest labor
contracts in the industry. It didn’t work out real well for them,
so they forced an employee buy out , which is a sham.
A friend of mine is a pilot & he was forced to convert all
of his 401K investments into UAL stock.
it is now pennys on the dollar.
I don’t think one can discuss this subject without discussing what has happened to Urban blacks. There was a time when blacks, poor or not, were family oriented. That tradition has been thoroughly destroyed; they have become a community of single-mother households, and this trend, in recent decades, has bled over to the white community, and society, in general. The State has usurped the role of the father, the provider and thus, the father feels no personal responsibiity, knowing that the State will pick up the slack.
This is interference in the basic instincts of human beings and it has forever altered the way we think and act. Remove consequences from our actions and our actions, necessarily, will become more reckless and more poorly considered. This is what we have wrought.
Places like Detroit are the phusical manifestations of denying our nature. The State improperly assumed that poverty was simply a lack of money when, in fact, it’s a lack of education, inspiration, motivation and opportunity. This improper assumption has caused the State to create a welfare state that provides people money, while virtually ignoring the real solutions to their dilemma. The end result is uneducated, uninspired, and unmotivated generations that are ill-equipped to recognize an opportunity if it bit them on the ass.
That’s a feature not a bug.
Smart Folks don’t vote for demonrats.
This is LBJ’s Great Society at its finest.
There never was an “academic freedom” reason for tenure in K-12, and there isn’t any reason for it now. They don’t have academic freedom. K-12 teachers teach what the school boards mandates and cannot teach or promote what the board forbids.
The only reason for K-12 tenure is paycheck security.
@ coldwarrior:
Did you notice the quote by the The Nation?
Hmmmm. I’ll read it but I wonder what L^3 turnip head at The Nation read the book and still thinks unions are cool?
i saw that. funny.
the writer basically nails management and the unions for this, and rightly so.
I am always amazed at some of the emails I get from my kids teachers and their lack of basic writing skills.
There are some great teachers , but too often they are considered
a threat to the incompetent.
It sounds like your kids teachers are a disservice to the kids &
the taxpayers.
@ vagabond trader:
Great link. Crime thrives in the abandoned houses. Did you see the drug paraphenilia casually left out? The city doesn’t have the tax base to support the services needed. Glad the money is going to fund something sensible.
@ vagabond trader:
Great link. Crime thrives in the abandoned houses. Did you see the drug paraphenilia casually left out? The city doesn’t have the tax base to support the services needed. Glad the money is going to fund something sensible.
They should turn it over to the military to use as a live-fire training area.
Any child that attacks a teacher should be expelled and the parents required to pay for their education elsewhere. Attach their income for the rest of their lives if need be. Sooner or later word will get out that allowing your kids to be animals doesn’t pay.
Any child that attacks a teacher should be expelled and the parents required to pay for their education elsewhere. Attach their income for the rest of their lives if need be. Sooner or later word will get out that allowing your kids to be animals doesn’t pay.
Yeah, that really would have pissed his mother off. After all, she raised him and she wouldn’t allow me any say.
@ mjazz:
mjazz, the state is required to provide an education. Only private schools have the luxury of asking poorly behaved students to leave. My town does have a seperate campus for kids removed from the regular schools because of behavoral or criminal problems.
@ Macker:
Let’s just jump ahead of the media and call the “Big Asshole Party”.
I mean we ARE going to HAVE to be ASSHOLES to get this crap straightened out aren’t we?
Hell, you have to be an asshole these days just to get heard. I think just plain “T” party will suffice. Keep it somewhat nebulous. Those in the know will identify T with Tea. The media will identify the T with Terrorist.
T is for “Tackle” (problems)
T is for “Traditional” (values)
T is for “Transcend” (2 faces of the same old politics)
T is for “Truth” (America’s excellence benefits the world)
The point you emphasize in your essay is key: The greatest tragedy about Detroit is that we can’t learn from the mistakes that destroyed the city. The Left won’t learn and will do its best to keep others from learning.
And I’m afraid Chicago’s headed for the same fate. In Chicago’s case, it’s a little more straightforward; with pension obligations getting into the tens of thousands of dollars per resident, it’s going to be just about impossible to stop a massive flight to the suburbs as the taxes go up. they’re hosed, and only a bankruptcy can unhose them.
That’s also what happened to Detroit, btw. The Metro area is still somewhat viable, it’s the city that’s a basket case.
Macker wrote:
unclassifiable wrote:
@ rain of lead:
3rd Party here we come.
But what should it be named? Tea? Or something else like…Nationalists?
whigs, bull moose, come on help me out here
found this comment at PW fits just right
If the GOP leadership can’t stop several of its members from voting for an omnibus bill that will effectively neuter the incoming Congress for an entire fiscal year — and so intentionally undermine the will of the American electorate — than that leadership needs to go.
And if we can’t vote our own interests any more by voting for the GOP, we should seriously begin thinking about leaving the party entirely and forming a new party. I’d be happy to label it, too. It’d be called the “Yeah? Well then fuck you, too!” party.
No donkeys or elephants. Just a pissed off eagle giving you the finger.
I want to see what some of these earmarks are. At least now in this information age we can see what is up fairly quickly. When I was younger you would just see a list in a periodical every now and then that would have things in it like they wanted to know why horseflies flew in circles.
Even back then the media let us down. But we can’t afford junk like that anymore, it shouldn’t be business as usual.
I’ll bet there was a lot of inflation in Detroit if people were making that much money. They were probably paying five bucks for a loaf of bread and not minding.
That works for me. I’ve been POed for a while now.
The problem in my mind is that the pols play us for fools.
We are viewed as chattles of the state rather than their boss.
Things have got to change & if these Republicans won’t do
it we’ll elect people who will.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
That works for me. I’ve been POed for a while now.
The problem in my mind is that the pols play us for fools.
We are viewed as chattles of the state rather than their boss.
Things have got to change & if these Republicans won’t do
it we’ll elect people who will.
Third parties form for a reason; they just don’t appear out of thin air. Using a third party to destroy the GOP may be the only way to save the country. Prosperity has already fled the country. How long before Peace flees as well??
Who can take state secrets?
Send them to Wikileaks?
Justify himself no matter what havoc it wreaks?
The Bradley Man
The Bradley Man can
The Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality
Who can join the service?
Then betray his oath?
‘Cause he’s just pursuing his own personal growth
The Bradley Man
The Bradley Man can
The Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality
The Bradley Man betrayed his uniformed comrades
While working in a war theater
Burned CDs to distribute later
That’s what people call a traitor
Who can ride a rainbow
Into his own hell?
Who is the new posterboy for don’t ask and don’t tell?
The Bradley Man
The Bradley Man can
The Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality
The Bradley Man betrayed his uniformed comrades
While working in a war theater
Burned CDs to distribute later
That’s what people call a traitor
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Who can ride a rainbow
Into his own hell?
Who is the new posterboy for don’t ask and don’t tell?
The Bradley Man
The Bradley Man can
The Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality
Yes, the Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality
Bradley Man, Bradley Man
Bradley Man, Bradley Man
Bradley Man, Bradley Man…
@ Brick:
Are you doing that thing with your thumbs and forefingers…framing the shot? lol
LOL! No, but it does look like that all shrunk down like that. It’s a self-portrait taken in an old wood and brass elevator. I’m shooting directly into the brass doors, and what you see, is the reflection.
Yashica GSN, @ 1.7 and Kodak 200 Gold. More I’m sure than you wanted to know.
Boo-freaking-hoo. Bradley Manning’s Jail Conditions Are Inhumane, Personality Erasing, Insanity Inducing; Even Torture
From the beginning of his detention, Manning has been held in intensive solitary confinement. For 23 out of 24 hours every day — for seven straight months and counting — he sits completely alone in his cell. Even inside his cell, his activities are heavily restricted; he’s barred even from exercising and is under constant surveillance to enforce those restrictions. For reasons that appear completely punitive, he’s being denied many of the most basic attributes of civilized imprisonment, including even a pillow or sheets for his bed (he is not and never has been on suicide watch). For the one hour per day when he is freed from this isolation, he is barred from accessing any news or current events programs. Lt. Villiard protested that the conditions are not “like jail movies where someone gets thrown into the hole,” but confirmed that he is in solitary confinement, entirely alone in his cell except for the one hour per day he is taken out.
awwww……
bastard should be glad he’s not on the wrong side of a noose
@ mjazz:
All I know is what they tell me and they told me the system worked.// lol I would bet my right arm that there is a vast network out there plotting something major for the US. These are all practice or dry runs…that’s why they all failed. Something big is coming, and I don’t feel the urge to absorb it. I will be wanting revenge.
@ lobo91:
Ohhhh ROFLMAO********** I swear this is no lie…since I sleep with the TV on, I woke up the other morning to Married With Children. The Village People were on there. I just put the pillow over my head and went back to sleep. lol
@ mjazz:
I could honestly answer….none. It’s not something we do as a rule.
@ mjazz:
All I know is what they tell me and they told me the system worked.// lol I would bet my right arm that there is a vast network out there plotting something major for the US. These are all practice or dry runs…that’s why they all failed. Something big is coming, and I don’t feel the urge to absorb it. I will be wanting revenge.
I reluctantly agree.
Heaven forbid something happens, I don’t want any more “measured responses.” The response I’m looking for is measured in kilotons.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Who can join the service?
Then betray his oath?
‘Cause he’s just pursuing his own personal growth
I like that line!
Especially considering his recent whining about prison being “personality erasing.”
I don’t see the problem, considering how fucked up his existing personality is…
@ Brick:
Agreed. I will be wanting some serious payback this time. I thought we were going for that after 9/11 but they let me down. I say let loose the Marines with no rules. lol
@ 1389AD:
The Generation Gap in one easy lesson:
After the attack on Pearl Harbor, we rounded up all the Japanese.
After the attack on the Twin Towers, we imported more muslims.
@ lobo91: @ lobo91:
Thanks, he kind of has a special place in my heart. Sorry about the double post for some reason wordpress said I had already asked that question, so I typed it again….go figure.
Boo-freaking-hoo. Bradley Manning’s Jail Conditions Are Inhumane, Personality Erasing, Insanity Inducing; Even Torture
From the beginning of his detention, Manning has been held in intensive solitary confinement. For 23 out of 24 hours every day — for seven straight months and counting — he sits completely alone in his cell.
That’s for his own protection. I doubt his fellow prisoners take too kindly to traitors.
my eyes, my eyes!!
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(don’t click this link)
(you have been warned)
(you know you want to)
Michelle Obama has once again reiterated that fat kids are a national security threat. She said, “Fat kids are a threat to our national security. And they’re disgusting and fat! I hate them!”
Brick wrote:
coldwarrior wrote:
the darkroom is all packed up…the nikon f and fa set on the shelf next to the brownie and contaflex as historical pieces.
You’ve got some quality vintage gear there.
i grudgingly went digital 18 months ago
For most things digital actually makes “more sense.” Still, there’s something about film…for me, it’s the anticipation of having to wait to see what I actually got. Film makes me slow down instead of click, and check the screen. For the record, I do have a couple of digital point and shoots, and they get probably equal use as my film bodies.
Oh and to keep it on topic, I like to take pictures of abandoned buildings, like what’s in Detriot, however I’m glad that I have to travel a good ways to do so.
@ mjazz:
Lordie that was awful. lol lol I usually keep it on a safe channel like TNT. lol
@ Beeduwine:
Frak him and frak his back. Hell, to him I may qualify as a NEWNOUN since I have “bumps” in the front of my shirt. Screw that little bastard. Ooops, correction…horney little bastard.
@ mawskrat:
They had the Freak Mountain skit where they found out Zappa didn’t do dope. At the end of the show Belushi came out with a joint and offered it to him and Zappa knocked it out of his hand.
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@ mawskrat:
They had the Freak Mountain skit where they found out Zappa didn’t do dope. At the end of the show Belushi came out with a joint and offered it to him and Zappa knocked it out of his hand.
@ Brick:
Gee, why doesn’t every woman date a convicted killer?// And the mother is a stupid bitch. She doesn’t believe he would do it? What, the baby did it to himself. They should both be executed.
Wow, looking at that rotting town is so depressing. And seeing it happen so fast.
Down hill to such a deplorable condition in just 40 years of dim rule.
The progs take over and bleed the place dry. Just wring everything they can from it and leave a decayed husk. Misery everywhere. Seeing those once impressive beautiful buildings, now burned out and falling in, it looks a disease just ran through the place and left nothing but death and destruction in its wake.
It is so sad when healthy towns and cities just crumble and die. What a waste.
wolfie wrote:
The point you emphasize in your essay is key: The greatest tragedy about Detroit is that we can’t learn from the mistakes that destroyed the city. The Left won’t learn and will do its best to keep others from learning.
And I’m afraid Chicago’s headed for the same fate. In Chicago’s case, it’s a little more straightforward; with pension obligations getting into the tens of thousands of dollars per resident, it’s going to be just about impossible to stop a massive flight to the suburbs as the taxes go up. they’re hosed, and only a bankruptcy can unhose them.
That’s also what happened to Detroit, btw. The Metro area is still somewhat viable, it’s the city that’s a basket case.
Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if we end up with a real civil war fought with nukes.
It’ll break down as city vs. suburbs/country, more or less.
Or red counties vs. blue counties.
Densely populated areas are the only types of areas that it pays to nuke, from a military standpoint.
I won’t be affected. I live in an unincorporated area and that’s exactly where I’ll stay, until such time as I emigrate. Which may be before that happens anyway.
Brick wrote:
So, is this intended to ultimately be a paying gig or playing for fun?
Oh it’s definitely a paying gig, we already have gig’s booked from the end of Feb, through the beginning of May.
Wow! That’s excellent! Do you have a specific song set (if that’s what it’s called?)
Note to anyone not so heavily medicated that that can listen to reason; if you are a young college student and not only spend all your time on a blog, but also find yourself carrying self-referential signs at public rallies that only your blog friends can understand, it is a good time to seek help from a competent counselor.
doriangrey wrote:
So I had the first practice with the new band last night, boy was I wiped out today…
How did it go?
It went very well, but I did add a couple more blisters… Last night practice consisted of Sweet Child of Mine and Welcome to the Jungle by GNR, Dirty deed’s done dirt Cheap, Have a drink on me, You shook me, Highway to Hell by AC/DC, Living after midnight, Breaking the Law, You’ve got another thing coming by Judas Priest, Bark at the Moon by Ozzy, Slide it in by Whitesnake, and three or four other songs I dont remember right off the top of my head.
Rodan wrote:
doriangrey wrote:
So I had the first practice with the new band last night, boy was I wiped out today…
How did it go?
It went very well, but I did add a couple more blisters… Last night practice consisted of Sweet Child of Mine and Welcome to the Jungle by GNR, Dirty deed’s done dirt Cheap, Have a drink on me, You shook me, Highway to Hell by AC/DC, Living after midnight, Breaking the Law, You’ve got another thing coming by Judas Priest, Bark at the Moon by Ozzy, Slide it in by Whitesnake, and three or four other songs I dont remember right off the top of my head.
doriangrey wrote:
Brick wrote:
So, is this intended to ultimately be a paying gig or playing for fun?
Oh it’s definitely a paying gig, we already have gig’s booked from the end of Feb, through the beginning of May.
Wow! That’s excellent! Do you have a specific song set (if that’s what it’s called?)
Yes, four complete sets, that consist of 12 songs each.
doriangrey wrote:
Rodan wrote:
doriangrey wrote:
So I had the first practice with the new band last night, boy was I wiped out today…
How did it go?
It went very well, but I did add a couple more blisters… Last night practice consisted of Sweet Child of Mine and Welcome to the Jungle by GNR, Dirty deed’s done dirt Cheap, Have a drink on me, You shook me, Highway to Hell by AC/DC, Living after midnight, Breaking the Law, You’ve got another thing coming by Judas Priest, Bark at the Moon by Ozzy, Slide it in by Whitesnake, and three or four other songs I dont remember right off the top of my head.
That’s a high energy set!
ROTFLMAO… you’re tell me…. wiped me out, I am sooo out of shape for this stuff…
Note to anyone not so heavily medicated that that can listen to reason; if you are a young college student and not only spend all your time on a blog, but also find yourself carrying self-referential signs at public rallies that only your blog friends can understand, it is a good time to seek help from a competent counselor.
It will never happen. Can’t help someone who won’t help themselves. This guy sound like he’s beyond help anyways.
@ 1389AD:
The Generation Gap in one easy lesson:
After the attack on Pearl Harbor, we rounded up all the Japanese.
After the attack on the Twin Towers, we imported more muslims.
mjazz wrote:
@ 1389AD:
The Generation Gap in one easy lesson:
After the attack on Pearl Harbor, we rounded up all the Japanese.
After the attack on the Twin Towers, we imported more muslims.
Exactly.
Sounds like a potentially fatal viral infection of stupidity if ya ask me.
@ Bagua:
How abt. anyone still over there needs an intervention and major deprogramming.
Grown men allowing themselves to be abused and slapped around in public by a flip flopping unstable slob.
And the ones who aren’t in the cage are crying and chattering, hoping around like little scared monkeys.
It will never happen. Can’t help someone who won’t help themselves. This guy sound like he’s beyond help anyways.
Well, certainly that applies to the hard core freaks and social misfits, such as Socioweasel/Slima, PschoVanQuixote, WindUpBird, Windsagio, Space Jesus, Recursary, Wozzablog, Obdicutn, godamnfrank, et. al.. That batch, the dominant control “lizards”, could not find a sense of community at anything short of a freak show.
jamesfirecat has chosen them as role models, and is forming his beliefs and behaviours to suit them, that is a sad and limiting choice for a young person.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
It will never happen. Can’t help someone who won’t help themselves. This guy sound like he’s beyond help anyways.
Well, certainly that applies to the hard core freaks and social misfits, such as Socioweasel/Slima, PschoVanQuixote, WindUpBird, Windsagio, Space Jesus, Recursary, Wozzablog, Obdicutn, godamnfrank, et. al.. That batch, the dominant control “lizards”, could not find a sense of community at anything short of a freak show.
jamesfirecat has chosen them as role models, and is forming his beliefs and behaviours to suit them, that is a sad and limiting choice for a young person.
Just a note, not one of those nic’s were there when I got the stick. Don’t really know a thing about any of them except what I read here. Haven’t been to the swamp in over a year (Maybe closer to two) My posts relating to the swamp and the mad king is just an excuse to practice Ad hominem abuse.
Don’t want my skills to get rusty.
All that land, just sitting there going to waste! I am tempted to start buying it up, lots and lots of it, then put up a high-voltage fence to keep the mutants out, plant grass and put some bovine-Americans out there to pasture. Maybe also some porcine-Americans, too.
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This one is pretty heartbreaking. What a disaster the do gooders created. Congratulations azzholes.
Of course the corruptocrat plantation owners have the perfect solution for the blight
And I used to live in southeast Michigan before I moved to Arizona. What a frakking shame.
You could not pay me to visit Detroit or even fly into the Detroit airport.
@ vagabond trader:
I love the last paragraph, emphasis mine. You mean $48 Billion ain’t enough? You clowns need more? We have passed the point of brazen and entered the Twilight Zone.
Still watching, but tragic.
What happened to Dopelganger’s Urbex thread?
@ vagabond trader:
The road to hell is paved with Good intentions.
I am most familiar with the Chicago Public Schools, a profound failure.
A preference is given to graduates of Chicago State University to teach in the system. The graduates are usually at best semi-literate.
I think that you get bonus points if you get your name right the
first time.
The teachers do not have to pass a proficency test even in their
own subject, due to the union.
Many teachers are afraid of the students in their own class rooms.
The answer is not more money
That doesn’t even look like an American city.
weeellllllll
that didn’t take long
Jim DeMint backs down on demand to read START
South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint backed off his demand Wednesday to force a full reading of the New START treaty, a move that may ease a legislative logjam amid a flurry of activity in the waning days of the congressional session.
DeMint’s decision also signals that the long-debated START treaty may now have a serious chance to win ratification and hand the White House a major victory in the coming days. A procedural vote on the treaty Wednesday garnered 66 votes, a strong indicator that the treaty could pick up the 67 votes it needs for ratification.
Relevant…
L.A. Parents Pull the Trigger on School Choice…
For the Parent Trigger law to be invoked, a school must fail to meet federal academic standards for three consecutive years; have a score of less than 800 on the state’s Academic Performance Index, which is based on student test scores; and be among the lowest performing five percent of schools in the state.
There are many California schools that would qualify for parental action under the Parent Trigger law, according to the Los Angeles Daily News.
In the Los Angeles United School District alone, 250 schools have failed to meet academic standards for more than three years, the newspaper said.
Under this law, if the majority of a school’s parents agree, they can choose to close down the school, replace the entire staff, or convert it to a charter school. All that is required is a petition signed by 50 percent of the parents.
(Video at the link)
http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2010/12/15/l-a-parents-pull-the-trigger-on-school-choice/
RIX wrote:
You got that right. Ten years ago my ex asked me to join her in a parent-teacher session with our son, who was in sixth grade at the old Nathaniel Greene Elementary School on the South Side. It quickly turned into a Bash Dad exercise. I kept my mouth shut.
Then afterward, my ex takes me aside and tells me the reason she didn’t ask me on other sessions where they requested me was because she was afraid I would take her to Court for incompetence.
You don’t say, Bitch?
Not only do the Unions strangle teacher discipline…it goes hand-in-hand with parents (in this case, my son’s mother) who don’t give a damn and think their child is blameless in everything. Frak that!
I read where parts of Detroit are evolving into wild life zones.
All those abandoned houses need to be razed. Shovel ready, oh yeah. Time to pull the city boundaries in to fit the population and let nature take back the outskirts. Doppleganger showed some of the decaying city’s bizarre beauty in his pictures, but this video was depressing.
RIX wrote:
As counterintuitive as it seems to most, the answer is never more money. Don’t get me wrong, more money is nice to have, the answer is what is done with it. Money has always been spent more efficiently by people with a stake in the consequences. This is why private schools will always out perform the public ones, while costing on average 67% per student for those schools. The only defense of this that the left is able to offer up is that there are not enough of those schools to accomodate the number of students. The absurdity of this flies against logic. We could always open more schools, thereby spurring economic growth, duh.
snowcrash wrote:
That costs money. Where’s it going to come from? I am afraid Detroit is just the forerunner of what is to come. The crash in commercial real estate is coming. What happens then?
@ Iron Fist:
Whatever stimulus package had the shovel ready money. Where did it go?
@ Macker:
You had a bad experience. I would contrast Catholic schools & other
parochial schools with urban public school systems.
The funding is a fraction of the public schools & the class sizes
as much as three times.
Yet there is discipline & everybody comes out of grade school
proficient in basic skills.
The nuns demanded that you stand up straight & recite the pledge
with your hand over your heart, then a prayer.
No teachers union & you got to stay if you worked & behaved.
@ snowcrash:
Mostly to the Unions and othe DNC supporters. That was simply theft on a grand scale. Change! And the Republicans don’t have the balls to call it like it is. We are ill served by our so-called leaders. I do question if our country can last.
@ Iron Fist:
There is a lot of conjecture that the crash in commercial real estate has already happened. I just received an e-mail today from Inland Real Estate that they were able to complete a total restructure of their debt package for Inland American Reit. The NAV is back up to $10.00 per share. This represents a complete recovery from the trough they hit 18 months ago.
@ RIX:
Yes, I went to a Lutheran School for 7th and 8th grades, after we moved back to the States in 1972. BTW, it’s where I met my wife! That’s how long we’ve known each other.
Those two years instilled a lot of discipline in me which I lost for a while (during my first marriage), then got back over time.
@ Iron Fist:
Let the banks take a haircut on the properties they hold. Seriously. No more bailing them out and keeping artifiically high real estate values. Someone will buy if they are priced right. Problem is no one wants to price it that low.
@ snowcrash:
You can’t give the stuff in Detroit away. You’d have to pay people to take it. Hell, I wouldn’t take it. Like Speranza said, you couldn’t pay me to fly into and out of Detroit, let alone invest in it by moving there.
@ Iron Fist:
I think they spent it in California and Nevada to buy the last elections.
@ Flyovercountry:
There are great public school districts , but not in urban environments.
The Union dominates & the whole thing becomes a job program for
members. It is all about getting out of the classromm & getting a cushy administrative job.
I know a young woman teaching in Chicago, who literally got picked
up & thrown against a wall by a student. The school administration
and the Union refused to help.
She now has another line of work
@ snowcrash:
Well Said!
@ Flyovercountry:
Maybe. I am not an expert, but I see an awful lot of commercial real estate vacant where I am. I realize people turn their nose up at the South, but I’d much rather live here than in New York or LA. I could make a lot larger salary in either place, but it just wouldn’t be worth it.
@ Iron Fist:
I was addressing your comment about commercial real estate, not Detroit.
(KOB)- A woman suing the TSA for an invasive pat-down at the Albuquerque Sunport speaks only with KOB Eyewitness News 4.
Adrienne Durso of Carlsbad, California spoke over the phone – she describes her experience during a TSA pat-down at the Sunport back in August.
“Heavily concentrating on my breast area where I told her I had a mastectomy the year previous and in just seemed to go on and on,” said Durso.
She says she felt humiliated as the extensive pat-down happened in front of her 17 year old son and hundreds of other travelers.
“I felt as though I didn’t have any rights other than I had to stand there and let them do what they want to do to my body,” Durso continued.
She says she knew her rights had been violated so she asked to speak to a supervisor who she thought would help.
All the while her son stood by her side and couldn’t remain silent anymore
“My son, who I’m very proud of spoke up and said ‘I went through the metal detector and I did not get a pat-down’ to which the supervisor said ‘well you don’t have boobs’,” she said
Have to pick up my daughter from school. bbl. Flyover, this has been a great thread.
@ rain of lead:
It’s beginning to look like the entire Republican party doesn’t have one testicle amongst the lot of them.
@ RIX:
My kids went to a great school. The standards have been slowly but consistently declining. The school has been putting a levy issue on the ballot twice a year for as long as I can remember. The union is slowly sucking the system dry. What is happening in Detroit is forshadowing. We will all face this if we don’t defeat the unions soon. The entire country has the disease of liberalism, if not the symptoms yet. We need to begin working on the cure now. Not in 2012, or next week even, but now.
@ snowcrash:
It is the same with Commercial real estate. Much of it is simply not worth anything without businesses and jobs that need it. Like I said, I’m not an expert, but I see a lot of vacant property around.
snowcrash wrote:
It’s in the holes they dug with those shovels…
@ Iron Fist:
It’s important to realize that of all asset classes, Real Estate is the most complicated. Different parts of the country, and indeed the world will behave differently. That being said, our economy has some real issues out there, but all in all, it is still stronger than Obama’s attempts to destroy it. As always, I’m an optimist.
@ Speranza:
They are doing controlled demo on some neighborhoods.
We have a group here who is trying to open a charter school. It is located within the grounds of where nuns retire and the school building it will use is a former Christian Academy. At first the argument was “no” because of things like crosses built into the brick and stuff like that. Now, it is the local school district that is opposing it, over and over again. i really hope these people get their charter school. Parents everywhere need to send a message that schools will not be allowed to treat children this way.
@ NoThreat2U:
How much humiliation will we tolerate, sinking into submission?
That is what inquiring Obamas want to know.
@ RIX:
Sorry…I was busy cleaning my guns.
What was the question?
@ RIX:
I am afraid of my own answer to that question. I just don’t think I could tolerate it. Consequences be damned. But we can be comforted with the knowledge of the Trusted Travellers program.//
@ Iron Fist:
The same here,office space, entire recently built strip malls and restaurants especially.
@ NoThreat2U:
“My son, who I’m very proud of spoke up and said ‘I went through the metal detector and I did not get a pat-down’ to which the supervisor said ‘well you don’t have boobs’,”
so the agent just wanted to squeeze her tittie
whats wrong with that?
/
must I?
The House just passed the DADT repeal.
Good to see that they have time for important stuff, since they’ve decided to skip passing a budget and all…
Flyovercountry wrote:
Things are upside down , It is all about wages & benefits not education.
Teachers need to be judged on proficiency & recieve “merit” pay.
Goddess of the Classroom is a role model.
@ lobo91:
@ lobo91:
Do you have a link for the vote breakdown?
@ rain of lead:
TSA agents should call themselves CopAFeel Agents. ICK!
vagabond trader wrote:
Not at the moment. It was mentioned in a break on FNC. something like 253-175.
Macker wrote:
My wife’s a teacher. She couldn’t hold back a student if the parents didn’t allow it. I can only think of one she tried to flunk but the mom would have none of it, the meeting actually got pretty ugly as the mom was acting as if her son was being attacked or something. Several years later I saw the kid again, being booked into county.
@ RIX:
The unions are dead-set against any sort of merit pay. They claim that it would “pit teachers against each other.”
The reality is that it would show what a bunch of slugs the majority of their members are.
@ NoThreat2U:
sounds like he copped so much feel he needed a cig and a change of underwear
I don’t think one can discuss this subject without discussing what has happened to Urban blacks. There was a time when blacks, poor or not, were family oriented. That tradition has been thoroughly destroyed; they have become a community of single-mother households, and this trend, in recent decades, has bled over to the white community, and society, in general. The State has usurped the role of the father, the provider and thus, the father feels no personal responsibiity, knowing that the State will pick up the slack.
This is interference in the basic instincts of human beings and it has forever altered the way we think and act. Remove consequences from our actions and our actions, necessarily, will become more reckless and more poorly considered. This is what we have wrought.
Places like Detroit are the phusical manifestations of denying our nature. The State improperly assumed that poverty was simply a lack of money when, in fact, it’s a lack of education, inspiration, motivation and opportunity. This improper assumption has caused the State to create a welfare state that provides people money, while virtually ignoring the real solutions to their dilemma. The end result is uneducated, uninspired, and unmotivated generations that are ill-equipped to recognize an opportunity if it bit them on the ass.
New DOD.
Chuck’s good deed of the day
@ lobo91:
It should pit them against each other. Competition will lead to better teachers! If you suck, you are out of a job.
@ Flyovercountry:
(Not really answering that specific comment!)
The point you emphasize in your essay is key: The greatest tragedy about Detroit is that we can’t learn from the mistakes that destroyed the city. The Left won’t learn and will do its best to keep others from learning.
@ rain of lead:
It was a female that did the pat down though! Of course, it probably did turn on the supervisor.
@ lobo91:
And that’s what they fear. Seriously, over half of the teachers
in the Chicago system can’t verbally express themselves.
A real poor return on investment.
lobo91 wrote:
That’s the way of the world; it’s past time that these insulated people realize that.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Which the union obviously can’t allow. It exists in order to protect its members (and to funnel money to Democrats, of course).
Quality of education is way down their list of priorities.
@ MacDuff:
All too true.
The combination of the welfare state and the sexual revolution, which feed off each other, has been a disaster.
@ wolfie:
They will continue the same failed policies because most D leaders of decaying cities are corrupt.
@ RIX:
I went back to finish my BA in the late ’90s. I couldn’t believe the quality of the students they let into the teacher education program.
They took most of their classes within their own school. I’m convinced that was so the rest of the university wouldn’t see what a bunch of absolute morons they were.
@ lobo91:
So what do we have to do…where do we begin to crush these fat cat unions? Seriously, I’m curious.
Mike C. wrote:
They’re not getting the message at the RNC.
2010 was a reprieve not a vote of confidence.
2012 will be the GOP’s very last chance to get it right.
@ MacDuff:
And of course, the social engineers on the left are unable to distinguish cause from effect.
They’ll all tell you that the problems in the black community are the result of unemployment and too much of their male population being in prison.
Rodan wrote:
Is 000G ludwig?
@ lobo91:
and they need more money.
NoThreat2U wrote:
About the only chance I can see is if some of the states and big cities go bankrupt. Maybe they can get rid of the unions as a result.
Otherwise, I don’t know. The whole education system is corrupt from top to bottom.
NoThreat2U wrote:
in every other field workers are ‘pitted’ against each other every day. its a good thing.
NoThreat2U wrote:
I guess one could go to school board meetings. Parents really need to get involved. Personally, I don’t have any children and spent 12 years in Catholic schools, so what do I know?
vagabond trader wrote:
Yep. And there comes a point where you have to admit they just don’t give a damn about the underclass they pretend to be helping.
@ lobo91:
That is really depressing. Bankrupting states was discussed here. Good thread too IIRC. We may have to revisit that idea because things can’t keep going they way they are.
@ MacDuff:
in pgh, before the great society, the hill district was THE place to go for nightlife.
dont go there now after dark.
coldwarrior wrote:
In every other field, workers get paid or promoted based on performance, rather than on how long they’ve been there.
vagabond trader wrote:
I’m sure the Firefighters are getting all the practice they need or want…
lobo91 wrote:
I don’t doubt that for a minute & it’s a huge problem.
Tenure should go away, it’s an archaic holdover from
the McCarthy era.
@ MacDuff:
That won’t do you any good in most places, because the school board members are essentially put in place by the unions.
@ coldwarrior:
Agreed! What the hell makes a teacher so special?
@ MacDuff:
This is one reason I hope I never have grandchildren. I fought with our school constantly and never got any results. Did you know that every little boy who didn’t sit still in his chair had ADD? Well it took about one week of medication and mood swings before I told the school to shove their suggestion up their ass. I purposely went to the school and pulled my daughter out when she was 17. She was being bullied and they wouldn’t do a thing about it. The smug principal came out smiling and asking me what was going on. After I told him that we already discussed the problem numerous times…face to face..he could take his school and shove it. I wish I would have put them in Catholic school from the beginning.
Rancher wrote:
In 2002, I found out our son had been brought up before a juvenile judge for assault charges against a teacher. Imagine that. The court asked me why I wasn’t involved, and I told them exactly why. Never heard from those bastards again.
Mike C. wrote:
Palin has a couple.
coldwarrior wrote:
The concept of “competition” is anathema in the whole of the “union environment”. That fact, alone, makes me virulently anti-union. It inhibits creativity and natural advancement on the part of employees and locks them into a mindset of “do only what you must do”.
“Up by one’s bootstraps” mentalities need not bother.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
The ones that still have jobs. Oh yeah they love that kind of stuff and it beats having to go on endless calls to fires in abandoned buildings.
Check this out
@ RIX:
Absolutely. If there ever was a reason for tenure in elementary and secondary schools, it’s long since gone away.
The claim that they need it to preserve “academic freedom” is absurd.
What kind of “academic freedom” do you need in order to teach kids to read?
@ MacDuff:
Good comment.
@ MacDuff:
That one fact is probably the single biggest thing that brought down the American auto industry.
lobo91 wrote:
Exactly.
Urgh…Murkowski, Snowe, Collins, Lugar, and Brown all support repeal of DADT.
So the only way the Republicans can stop is in the Senate is to run out the clock.
@ snowcrash:
Razing costs money.
@ mjazz:
They’re doing it,must be a shovel ready project
snork wrote:
Megyn Kelly has a couple more
Megyn Kelly Piles on GOP for Earmarks: ‘We’ll Be Naming Them’
Fox’s Megyn Kelly was not happy to hear that many Republicans have stuffed the omnibus spending bill full of earmarks. On her show Wednesday, she went after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (KY), Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) and Sen. Saxby Chmbliss (R-GA) for their earmarks. She also vowed to name more names on “both sides of the aisle.”
@ MacDuff:
United Airlines used to boast that they had the richest labor
contracts in the industry. It didn’t work out real well for them,
so they forced an employee buy out , which is a sham.
A friend of mine is a pilot & he was forced to convert all
of his 401K investments into UAL stock.
it is now pennys on the dollar.
MacDuff wrote:
That’s a feature not a bug.
Smart Folks don’t vote for demonrats.
This is LBJ’s Great Society at its finest.
@ NoThreat2U:
I am starting with this Wikipedia article and then going on from there. I think the labor laws pertaining to unions are simply “unbalanced”.
I know Wiki is not entirely dependable but it gives me a start to research things on my own.
RINOS
@ lobo91:
There never was an “academic freedom” reason for tenure in K-12, and there isn’t any reason for it now. They don’t have academic freedom. K-12 teachers teach what the school boards mandates and cannot teach or promote what the board forbids.
The only reason for K-12 tenure is paycheck security.
@ unclassifiable:
here’s teh definitive work on the death of american steel…for your reading plaseure:
and the wolf finally came
@ rain of lead:
3rd Party here we come.
I’ll bet all the copper in those houses has been recycled.
If you think that there are union abuses now, just wait until
the TSA unionizes. They’re abusive now, with union protection
they will dial it up.
@ mjazz:
Lots of great architectural salvage too.
unclassifiable wrote:
But what should it be named? Tea? Or something else like…Nationalists?
@ unclassifiable:
Thanks…I’m gonna save that. Maybe I can get some useful info out of it.
@ coldwarrior:
Did you notice the quote by the The Nation?
Hmmmm. I’ll read it but I wonder what L^3 turnip head at The Nation read the book and still thinks unions are cool?
@ RIX:
I am always amazed at some of the emails I get from my kids teachers and their lack of basic writing skills.
@ vagabond trader:
I’ll bet a lot of asians would restore some of the houses that were not so bad.
@ Macker:
Let’s just jump ahead of the media and call the “Big Asshole Party”.
I mean we ARE going to HAVE to be ASSHOLES to get this crap straightened out aren’t we?
@ Macker:
I propose ARM- American Revolutionary Movement.
unclassifiable wrote:
i saw that. funny.
the writer basically nails management and the unions for this, and rightly so.
@ Calo:
There was one sent home that said “She always be late.”
@ wolfie:
I think you hit the nail on the head exactly.
vagabond trader wrote:
Should be shot on sight…
(Did I just say that out loud???
)
@ Calo:
There are some great teachers , but too often they are considered
a threat to the incompetent.
It sounds like your kids teachers are a disservice to the kids &
the taxpayers.
Macker wrote:
whigs, bull moose, come on help me out here
@ vagabond trader:
Great link. Crime thrives in the abandoned houses. Did you see the drug paraphenilia casually left out? The city doesn’t have the tax base to support the services needed. Glad the money is going to fund something sensible.
snowcrash wrote:
They should turn it over to the military to use as a live-fire training area.
Any child that attacks a teacher should be expelled and the parents required to pay for their education elsewhere. Attach their income for the rest of their lives if need be. Sooner or later word will get out that allowing your kids to be animals doesn’t pay.
mjazz wrote:
TAB, Taking America Back Party.
mjazz wrote:
Word, you be kiddin?
mjazz wrote:
Yeah, that really would have pissed his mother off. After all, she raised him and she wouldn’t allow me any say.
@ RIX:
@ lobo91:
They could also unleash a MOAB on said areas too, wouldn’t make a difference.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Why waste valuable ammo,plenty of lamposts in DC.
@ mjazz:
mjazz, the state is required to provide an education. Only private schools have the luxury of asking poorly behaved students to leave. My town does have a seperate campus for kids removed from the regular schools because of behavoral or criminal problems.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
How about the POMO Party, Pissed Off MoFos?
RIX wrote:
A union boss once remarked tha teachers vote, not kids.
The Antisocialist Party.
vagabond trader wrote:
Not to mention there’s also a handy river nearby.
unclassifiable wrote:
Hell, you have to be an asshole these days just to get heard. I think just plain “T” party will suffice. Keep it somewhat nebulous. Those in the know will identify T with Tea. The media will identify the T with Terrorist.
T is for “Tackle” (problems)
T is for “Traditional” (values)
T is for “Transcend” (2 faces of the same old politics)
T is for “Truth” (America’s excellence benefits the world)
etc.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
I rather like the medieval French custom of sewing scoundrels and thieves up in leather sacks then tossing them into the drink.
RIX wrote:
That works for me. I’ve been POed for a while now.
@ Brick:
I like it.
wolfie wrote:
And I’m afraid Chicago’s headed for the same fate. In Chicago’s case, it’s a little more straightforward; with pension obligations getting into the tens of thousands of dollars per resident, it’s going to be just about impossible to stop a massive flight to the suburbs as the taxes go up. they’re hosed, and only a bankruptcy can unhose them.
That’s also what happened to Detroit, btw. The Metro area is still somewhat viable, it’s the city that’s a basket case.
rain of lead wrote:
found this comment at PW fits just right
If the GOP leadership can’t stop several of its members from voting for an omnibus bill that will effectively neuter the incoming Congress for an entire fiscal year — and so intentionally undermine the will of the American electorate — than that leadership needs to go.
And if we can’t vote our own interests any more by voting for the GOP, we should seriously begin thinking about leaving the party entirely and forming a new party. I’d be happy to label it, too. It’d be called the “Yeah? Well then fuck you, too!” party.
No donkeys or elephants. Just a pissed off eagle giving you the finger.
Posted by Jeff G.
I want to see what some of these earmarks are. At least now in this information age we can see what is up fairly quickly. When I was younger you would just see a list in a periodical every now and then that would have things in it like they wanted to know why horseflies flew in circles.
Even back then the media let us down. But we can’t afford junk like that anymore, it shouldn’t be business as usual.
Rancher wrote:
Wow, that is honest, but way to cynical.
You must have been shocked.
@ snork:
wait till they find a way for the city to tax the metro area…they flaoted that idea in pgh a few years ago and there was damn near a revolution
I’ll bet there was a lot of inflation in Detroit if people were making that much money. They were probably paying five bucks for a loaf of bread and not minding.
@ mjazz:
A few
@ vagabond trader:
Thank you. 8)
Wait until government will want to issue “moving permits” to allow you to move out of a crummy city or town.
BTW y’alls powder dry?
@ Da_Beerfreak:
The problem in my mind is that the pols play us for fools.
We are viewed as chattles of the state rather than their boss.
Things have got to change & if these Republicans won’t do
it we’ll elect people who will.
unclassifiable wrote:
I spent the afternoon cleaning my guns, actually.
@ vagabond trader:
It’s the same old story.
@ mjazz:
Mighty odd website that claims to be conservative but they had the bill….
@ unclassifiable:
If I leave the state and rent my place out, and sell it a few years down the road, I heard that they want 30% of the profit.
My dog is begging for dinner. I’m going to feed him & then beg
my wife for my dinner.
Everybody have a good evening.
@ unclassifiable:
They have pretty much achieved that with the housing bubble and sales at a near stand still.
@ vagabond trader:
Why do you see a discrepancy there? Or am I reading you wrong?
@ rain of lead:
I think an Eagle for the T-party symbol, is perfect.
15 sec spot…National
::fade from black::
animated semi-human jackass and elephant each on 2 legs, taxpayer in the middle.
Jackass kicks the taxpayer.
Taxpayer spins, $$ flies out of pocket and caught by jackass.
Taxpayer now facing the elephant.
The elephant “bonks” taxpayer in the head, spins taxpayer $$ flies out of pocket, now faces jackass.
Repeat. Speed up animation, 8 seconds.
::Eagle screech sound-over::
Taxpayer pummeling stops, elephant and jackass look skyward.
Brightly colored eagle swoops out of sky, grabs and lifts elephant and jackass, one in each claw, and shakes them, money falling out of their pockets.
Eagle carries off jackass and elephant, braying, and elephant sounds heard fading off.
Taxpayer picks up $$.
::fade to black::
White letters on blk bkgrd: T is for Take a Stand. (or something else catchy starting with T of course.)
@ Brick:
*clap clap clap*
6 to 7 inches of the white death cometh
billions will die.
//I have beer and Jim Beam I can survive
@ Brick:
Are you doing that thing with your thumbs and forefingers…framing the shot? lol
@ mawskrat:
Just keep it over your way please
@ Brick:
awesome
loooove it!
@ mawskrat:
I’m surrounded!
http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?ID=PBZ®ion=b5&lat=40.37738419&lon=-79.89256287&label=Pittsburgh%2c%20PA
@ Brick:
Since they’re not human, can’t the eagle just pull out a colt 45 and shoot the bastards?
@ Brick:
RIX wrote:
Third parties form for a reason; they just don’t appear out of thin air. Using a third party to destroy the GOP may be the only way to save the country. Prosperity has already fled the country. How long before Peace flees as well??
@ RIX:
Shocked he said it where it got recorded.
OT:
The Bradley Man
—apologies to “The Candy Man”
Who can take state secrets?
Send them to Wikileaks?
Justify himself no matter what havoc it wreaks?
The Bradley Man
The Bradley Man can
The Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality
Who can join the service?
Then betray his oath?
‘Cause he’s just pursuing his own personal growth
The Bradley Man
The Bradley Man can
The Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality
The Bradley Man betrayed his uniformed comrades
While working in a war theater
Burned CDs to distribute later
That’s what people call a traitor
Who can ride a rainbow
Into his own hell?
Who is the new posterboy for don’t ask and don’t tell?
The Bradley Man
The Bradley Man can
The Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality
The Bradley Man betrayed his uniformed comrades
While working in a war theater
Burned CDs to distribute later
That’s what people call a traitor
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Who can ride a rainbow
Into his own hell?
Who is the new posterboy for don’t ask and don’t tell?
The Bradley Man
The Bradley Man can
The Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality
Yes, the Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality
Bradley Man, Bradley Man
Bradley Man, Bradley Man
Bradley Man, Bradley Man…
NoThreat2U wrote:
LOL! No, but it does look like that all shrunk down like that. It’s a self-portrait taken in an old wood and brass elevator. I’m shooting directly into the brass doors, and what you see, is the reflection.
Yashica GSN, @ 1.7 and Kodak 200 Gold. More I’m sure than you wanted to know.
@ waldensianspirit:
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Now he’s whining about being locked up….
Boo-freaking-hoo. Bradley Manning’s Jail Conditions Are Inhumane, Personality Erasing, Insanity Inducing; Even Torture
http://weaselzippers.us/2010/12/15/boo-freaking-hoo-bradley-mannings-jail-conditions-are-inhumane-personality-erasing-insanity-inducing-even-torture/
@ Brick:
LOL Very creative
NoThreat2U wrote:
?
lol, he ain’t gittin’ any
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Boo-freaking-hoo. Bradley Manning’s Jail Conditions Are Inhumane, Personality Erasing, Insanity Inducing; Even Torture
From the beginning of his detention, Manning has been held in intensive solitary confinement. For 23 out of 24 hours every day — for seven straight months and counting — he sits completely alone in his cell. Even inside his cell, his activities are heavily restricted; he’s barred even from exercising and is under constant surveillance to enforce those restrictions. For reasons that appear completely punitive, he’s being denied many of the most basic attributes of civilized imprisonment, including even a pillow or sheets for his bed (he is not and never has been on suicide watch). For the one hour per day when he is freed from this isolation, he is barred from accessing any news or current events programs. Lt. Villiard protested that the conditions are not “like jail movies where someone gets thrown into the hole,” but confirmed that he is in solitary confinement, entirely alone in his cell except for the one hour per day he is taken out.
awwww……
bastard should be glad he’s not on the wrong side of a noose
@ NoThreat2U:
How about if we put him out of his misery, instead?
@ NoThreat2U:
Get.OUT.OF.MY.Head.
@ waldensianspirit:
I was thinking the same thing! LOL
@ lobo91:
Why not??? He’s just missing his manloving. lol
@ rain of lead:
Hey you were in my head first!! lol
Ambassador, Proven Republican Leader, Visionary, and “West Point Mom” — Ann Wagner is running for RNC Chair.
http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2010/12/15/missouri-conservative-star-ann-wagner-announces-her-run-for-rnc-chair/
@ NoThreat2U:
On that page: Grand Jury: Underpants Bomber Was No Lone Wolf
Did anyone in their right mind think he was?
Brick wrote:
A good friend had one back in highschool. A good (not so) little camera.
NoThreat2U wrote:
it’s nice and roomy in there
@ NoThreat2U:
he needs to look just a little more homo in that pic.
@ mjazz:
All I know is what they tell me and they told me the system worked.// lol I would bet my right arm that there is a vast network out there plotting something major for the US. These are all practice or dry runs…that’s why they all failed. Something big is coming, and I don’t feel the urge to absorb it. I will be wanting revenge.
waldensianspirit wrote:
2 issues with that.
Now,it’s a 9 second ad
and….
Nobody likes bloody money.
Muslim Doctor Arrested for Blasphemy
Guess WHY… if you haven’t seen it, you won’t believe it…
@ rain of lead:
Echo echo echo echo lol
@ coldwarrior:
Is that possible?
@ NoThreat2U:
he could be dressed as an Indian…
rain of lead wrote:
Does he understand why his shoe laces are made of Kevlar?
@ lobo91:
What??? lol lol
He looks like a little boy in that picture. Creepy dude.
@ NoThreat2U:
As in the Village People…
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
The GSN’s are excellent low-light rangefinders.
For informal event shooting indoors, it’s neat to be the only one NOT using a flash, AND film too.
I meant to reply to this earlier.
@ NoThreat2U:
How many American mothers who are not Muslims would blow up a plane with their son next to them?
He forgot to add “equality in execution” to his little poster…
NoThreat2U wrote:
a band named the village people comes to mind.
see here:
mjazz wrote:
@ lobo91:
Ohhhh ROFLMAO********** I swear this is no lie…since I sleep with the TV on, I woke up the other morning to Married With Children. The Village People were on there. I just put the pillow over my head and went back to sleep. lol
@ mjazz:
I could honestly answer….none. It’s not something we do as a rule.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Especially considering his recent whining about prison being “personality erasing.”
@ coldwarrior:
Yup…definitely more gay…
NoThreat2U wrote:
I reluctantly agree.
Heaven forbid something happens, I don’t want any more “measured responses.” The response I’m looking for is measured in kilotons.
Brick wrote:
my film days eneded when i delvolped the last roll of tech-pan that i had loaded. i still have 100yds of the stuff..
the darkroom is all packed up…the nikon f and fa set on the shelf next to the brownie and contaflex as historical pieces.
lobo91 wrote:
yep.
@ coldwarrior:
he dosen’t look nearly as manly as those guys
wolfie wrote:
I don’t see the problem, considering how fucked up his existing personality is…
@ Brick:
Agreed. I will be wanting some serious payback this time. I thought we were going for that after 9/11 but they let me down. I say let loose the Marines with no rules. lol
@ 1389AD:
The Generation Gap in one easy lesson:
After the attack on Pearl Harbor, we rounded up all the Japanese.
After the attack on the Twin Towers, we imported more muslims.
Has anyone heard from Taxfreekiller? It’s been awhile since I’ve seen him post.
imtoast wrote:
He was on earlier today.
Has anyone heard from Taxfreekiller? It’s been awhile since I’ve seen a post from him.
@ imtoast:
He was around earlier today.
@ imtoast:
He posted yesterday or the day before.
coldwarrior wrote:
You’ve got some quality vintage gear there.
@ lobo91:
@ lobo91:
Thanks, he kind of has a special place in my heart. Sorry about the double post for some reason wordpress said I had already asked that question, so I typed it again….go figure.
rain of lead wrote:
i didnt say manly, did i?
@ imtoast:
This morning.
NoThreat2U wrote:
That’s for his own protection. I doubt his fellow prisoners take too kindly to traitors.
Brick wrote:
i grudgingly went digital 18 months ago
since BILLIONS will die in the Ohio valley during this
new storm every one make babies to replace the lost
population
//liberals please use birth control
@ imtoast:
He’s around. I saw he commented on DoD yesterday:-)
http://diaryofdaedalus.com/2010/12/14/chucks-qoute-of-the-day/#comment-20452
Can we invite LvQ over and give him a sock?
@ Rancher:
I say let him out in gen pop. Then we’ll see which he likes better.
@ mawskrat:
Ummm, no thanx lol
@ Beeduwine:
I’d rather beat him with a sock…with a bar of soap in it.
@ NoThreat2U:
So that is your problem, seeping into your subconscious.
my eyes, my eyes!!
(not safe for anyone)
(don’t click this link)
(you have been warned)
(you know you want to)
Michelle Obama has once again reiterated that fat kids are a national security threat. She said, “Fat kids are a threat to our national security. And they’re disgusting and fat! I hate them!”
@ NoThreat2U:
LvQ always says he’s got CJ’s back, but who’s got Ludwig’s back?
Let’s have his back.
coldwarrior wrote:
For most things digital actually makes “more sense.” Still, there’s something about film…for me, it’s the anticipation of having to wait to see what I actually got. Film makes me slow down instead of click, and check the screen. For the record, I do have a couple of digital point and shoots, and they get probably equal use as my film bodies.
Oh and to keep it on topic, I like to take pictures of abandoned buildings, like what’s in Detriot, however I’m glad that I have to travel a good ways to do so.
NoThreat2U wrote:
I’d rather introduce him to the machine
@ mjazz:
Lordie that was awful. lol lol I usually keep it on a safe channel like TNT. lol
@ Beeduwine:
Frak him and frak his back. Hell, to him I may qualify as a NEWNOUN since I have “bumps” in the front of my shirt. Screw that little bastard. Ooops, correction…horney little bastard.
mjazz wrote:
that’s a great tune I remember Zappa was on SNL we had a great party
How many times can Obama use the end of his presidency bit?
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/12/15/dem-rep-obama-told-us-if-the-tax-deal-doesnt-pass-its-the-end-of-his-presidency/
@ NoThreat2U:
Use a cue ball. It splats better
rain of lead wrote:
Au contraire. We need more fat kids. Think what we can save on sandbags in the event of a national disaster.
@ NoThreat2U:
Heh!
@ NoThreat2U:
I think he had a point. 8)
@ rain of lead:
I dont think that will be necessary, I think he will implode on his own and take the coward’s way out.
@ mawskrat:
I guess they weren’t happy because he didn’t follow the script.
@ mawskrat:
Zappa is a little too weird for me. lol
@ Iron Fist:
But swinging that sock is like swinging a purse, and we all know how well women can do that
@ NoThreat2U:
I like a padlock on a dog choker. It swings right nicely even if I don’t carry a purse…
NoThreat2U wrote:
Swinging a purse… I will not mention Dorian. Mouth is shut. Nothing. Nada. Zip.
Discipline.
@ Iron Fist:
Oh a padlock would hurt like hell! Maybe I should put a padlock on the strap of my purse? You know, just to be sure. lol
bbiab
@ Beeduwine:
IT’S A EUROPEAN MAN BAG!!!! LMAO
@ mawskrat:
They had the Freak Mountain skit where they found out Zappa didn’t do dope. At the end of the show Belushi came out with a joint and offered it to him and Zappa knocked it out of his hand.
I gotta go watch the Irish guy so I’ll know what to believe.
We conservatives don’t know how to think for ourselves/
@ NoThreat2U:
Here’s what you need. I bet you could even get that onto a plane…
[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by 1389, The Blogmocracy. The Blogmocracy said: Model Cities Program, Detroit as the Object Lesson http://goo.gl/fb/R718Q #blogmocracy #economy #guestpost #history [...]
@ Iron Fist:
Monkey Fist? Looks easy to carry around. I just might have to consider one.
NoThreat2U wrote:
There’s nothing like a lump of steel to add to your purse’s ability to make lasting lumps on a lowlife lumphead.
mjazz wrote:
Zappa was a caffeine and tobacco junkie though….
Monsters in our midst.
So much FAIL.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Very true! I just don’t wanna ruin the makeup in my purse. That stuff aint cheap!
So I had the first practice with the new band last night, boy was I wiped out today…
@ Brick:
Gee, why doesn’t every woman date a convicted killer?// And the mother is a stupid bitch. She doesn’t believe he would do it? What, the baby did it to himself. They should both be executed.
Wow, looking at that rotting town is so depressing. And seeing it happen so fast.
Down hill to such a deplorable condition in just 40 years of dim rule.
The progs take over and bleed the place dry. Just wring everything they can from it and leave a decayed husk. Misery everywhere. Seeing those once impressive beautiful buildings, now burned out and falling in, it looks a disease just ran through the place and left nothing but death and destruction in its wake.
It is so sad when healthy towns and cities just crumble and die. What a waste.
doriangrey wrote:
How did you sound?
Brick wrote:
Pretty damned good, oh, and very damned loud…
Brick wrote:
OMG, look at that fcker’s eyes.
doriangrey wrote:
Cool.
So, is this intended to ultimately be a paying gig or playing for fun?
Chen just posted something so funny it’s funny at DoD.
snork wrote:
Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if we end up with a real civil war fought with nukes.
It’ll break down as city vs. suburbs/country, more or less.
Or red counties vs. blue counties.
Densely populated areas are the only types of areas that it pays to nuke, from a military standpoint.
I won’t be affected. I live in an unincorporated area and that’s exactly where I’ll stay, until such time as I emigrate. Which may be before that happens anyway.
@ snork:
It is actually more sad than funny.
bump:
Jamesfirecat also posted a picture of himself at some moonbat rally.
Yes, his poster reads: “I love America too much to flounce.” I’m sure that made a lot of sense to the other nitwits?
The photo does explain why the young man spends his all of his free time on LGF chatting, instead of socialising with his peers. Pathetic.
But those are the dominant voices now at that vapid blog known as LGF. The dominant voices are freaks and social misfits.
doriangrey wrote:
How did it go?
Brick wrote:
Oh it’s definitely a paying gig, we already have gig’s booked from the end of Feb, through the beginning of May.
@ snork:
No. It is sad.
Christian sentenced to death for Islamic thought crime
doriangrey wrote:
Wow! That’s excellent! Do you have a specific song set (if that’s what it’s called?)
Note to anyone not so heavily medicated that that can listen to reason; if you are a young college student and not only spend all your time on a blog, but also find yourself carrying self-referential signs at public rallies that only your blog friends can understand, it is a good time to seek help from a competent counselor.
@ waldensianspirit:
Thank you!
Rodan wrote:
It went very well, but I did add a couple more blisters…
Last night practice consisted of Sweet Child of Mine and Welcome to the Jungle by GNR, Dirty deed’s done dirt Cheap, Have a drink on me, You shook me, Highway to Hell by AC/DC, Living after midnight, Breaking the Law, You’ve got another thing coming by Judas Priest, Bark at the Moon by Ozzy, Slide it in by Whitesnake, and three or four other songs I dont remember right off the top of my head.
@ Bagua:
He bitches about the monitor lizards! Jamesfirecat? Get serious. Take Bagua advice. You truly might be surprised at what life has to offer.
doriangrey wrote:
That’s a high energy set!
Brick wrote:
Yes, four complete sets, that consist of 12 songs each.
Brick wrote:
ROTFLMAO… you’re tell me….
wiped me out, I am sooo out of shape for this stuff…
Bagua wrote:
It will never happen. Can’t help someone who won’t help themselves. This guy sound like he’s beyond help anyways.
mjazz wrote:
Exactly.
@ 1389AD:
And in this case the muslims have a smorgasbord of other belief systems to take up if they didn’t want to be rounded up.
1389AD wrote:
Sounds like a potentially fatal viral infection of stupidity if ya ask me.
@ Bagua:
How abt. anyone still over there needs an intervention and major deprogramming.
Grown men allowing themselves to be abused and slapped around in public by a flip flopping unstable slob.
And the ones who aren’t in the cage are crying and chattering, hoping around like little scared monkeys.
It’s pathetic.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
Well, certainly that applies to the hard core freaks and social misfits, such as Socioweasel/Slima, PschoVanQuixote, WindUpBird, Windsagio, Space Jesus, Recursary, Wozzablog, Obdicutn, godamnfrank, et. al.. That batch, the dominant control “lizards”, could not find a sense of community at anything short of a freak show.
jamesfirecat has chosen them as role models, and is forming his beliefs and behaviours to suit them, that is a sad and limiting choice for a young person.
NoThreat2U wrote:
I volunteer to put him out of his misery.
@ chickadee:
It is pathetic, but they seem happy. They find others like them, and worship the predators.
@ doriangrey:
Keep thinking…”Do it for the chicks! Do it for the chicks!”
Bagua wrote:
Just a note, not one of those nic’s were there when I got the stick. Don’t really know a thing about any of them except what I read here. Haven’t been to the swamp in over a year (Maybe closer to two) My posts relating to the swamp and the mad king is just an excuse to practice Ad hominem abuse.
Don’t want my skills to get rusty.
All that land, just sitting there going to waste! I am tempted to start buying it up, lots and lots of it, then put up a high-voltage fence to keep the mutants out, plant grass and put some bovine-Americans out there to pasture. Maybe also some porcine-Americans, too.
PrincessNatasha wrote:
Hmmm, a retirement home for democrat and republic politicians?