The Kyoto Protocols are failing, Global Warming is all but dead. But never fear! Just like the James Bond villain that is never quite defeated, George Soros and his merry band of globalists have found a new way to tax Carbon. This will save us all from certain AGW driven death and relocation of beachfront property. In reality, Soros et. al. are finding a new way for him to skim money off of the top of prosperous people that actually do real work and provide meaningful services and create jobs. This new system profits whom, exactly?
From our ‘friends’ at The Guardian:
The official communique from the Cancún climate change conference cannot disguise the fact that there will be no successor to the Kyoto protocol when it expires at the end of 2012. Japan, among others, has withdrawn its support for efforts simply to extend the Kyoto treaty.
This sounds like bad news, because it means that there will be no international price on carbon, and, without a market price, it is difficult to see how the reduction of carbon emissions can be efficiently organised. But appearances can be deceiving.
There is no “international price on carbon” becasue the stuff is ubiquitous plant food. There is so much of it that the only way it is worth something is if it is long chains that can be broken to do work or if it is squashed into jewelry.
Get ready, the globalist aren’t finished trying to find a way to tax prosperity. Nor are they finished with the lies of AGW.
Even as the top-down approach to tackling climate change is breaking down, a new bottom-up approach is emerging. It holds out better prospects for success than the cumbersome United Nations negotiations.
Instead of a single price for carbon, this bottom-up approach is likely to produce a multiplicity of prices for carbon emissions. This is more appropriate to the task of reducing carbon emissions than a single price, because there is a multiplicity of sectors and methods, each of which produces a different cost curve.
The market price of anything is always equal to the marginal cost. When there is a single price, all the various cost curves are merged into one and low-cost projects enjoy large rents. This makes the cost of reducing carbon emissions much larger than it needs to be.
This was amply demonstrated by the working of the Kyoto protocol in practice. The carbon-trading scheme that it established gave rise to many abuses. For example, formerly communist countries earned emission credits at zero cost on the heavy industries that they had to shut down and reaped windfall profits by selling them. So the demise of the Kyoto protocol will be no great loss.
The same applies to the protracted negotiations between developed and developing nations. The developed nations promised to pay reparations for their past sins at the Rio de Janeiro summit in 1992 but kept deferring their obligations by negotiating. Meanwhile, conditions changed with the passage of time: China, following decades of booming growth, replaced the United States as the largest emitter.
The negotiations have taken on an increasingly unreal air. The dispute revolves around how governments will deliver $100bn annually by 2020 to help developing countries confront climate change, given that even the $10bn fasttrack fund cannot be cobbled together without using smoke and mirrors. By failing to make any progress beyond keeping the talks alive, the Cancún summit has given the impression that nothing is happening, and that the situation is hopeless.
That is not the case. Individual countries such as Germany are making binding unilateral commitments that are not conditional on what other countries do, and “coalitions of the willing” are being formed to tackle particular sectors. The Redd partnership (reducing emissions from deforestation and forest degradation), an effort to create financial value for the carbon stored in forests, is the prime example here. Indeed, the greatest progress is now being made where the problem is the most urgent: it is much easier to preserve forests than to restore them….
Eventually, it should lead to the establishment of a global fund for rainforests and agricultural adaptation because the benefits of carbon abatement accrue to humanity as a whole, not to individual countries. The global fund would introduce two prices: one for carbon saving by restoring forests and one for avoiding carbon emissions by preserving them.This in turn sets an example for other sectors. In this way, carbon pricing will be introduced and international cooperation established from the bottom up, on a sectoral basis rooted in demonstrated results.
Thus, despite the widespread impression that the climate-change agenda has stalled, there are grounds for hope. But realising that hope requires keeping pace with global warming, and that means speeding up the process of putting a price – or prices – on carbon emissions.
I wonder who will be in charge of these global funds and who will make profit off of them? The AGW has been crushed, the Carbon Credit Markets are finished, this does not seem to matter to these Carbon Vampires. The drive to redistribute wealth continues.
Tags: AGW, carbon, George Soros, Global Warming Scam
I still wonder if Джордж Сорос may be the Antichrist.
Frak that.
@ Macker:
Well, he’s certainly against Christ.
Thus upshot is this: a few
chumpscountries like Germany may act unilaterally, but they have no force over us. Obama will, of course, try to use the EPA to force this on us, but when congress defunds the EPA, he’ll back down.Looks like the world owes Israel a thank you
‘Stuxnet virus set back Iran’s nuclear program by 2 years’
By YAAKOV KATZ
12/15/2010 05:15
Top German computer consultant tells ‘Post’ virus was as effective as military strike, a huge success; expert speculates IDF creator of virus.
…“It will take two years for Iran to get back on track,” Langer said in a telephone interview from his office in Hamburg, Germany. “This was nearly as effective as a military strike, but even better since there are no fatalities and no full-blown war. From a military perspective, this was a huge success.”…
Hey,. if China wants to destroy their economy in the name of this fantasy, more power to them. The Chinese economy is supporting the Chinese military, and has drained manufacturing jobs out of America. If we remain Carbon heretics, and they becme true believers, maybe we can bring some of that manufacturing back home?
[/ain't happening. The Chinese aren't stupid]
@ refugee000:
Perhaps…just perhaps…if this is correct, then the IDF also bought us two years to vote أوباما’s ass outa there and bring in a President who will back them up when there really is an attack to take out Iran’s nuke facilities!
@ snork:
I’ll drink to that!
@ refugee000:
mwhahahahahahahaha,nice job whoever was responsible. Now if they could stop congress from spending…..
anyone who willingly goes along with this latest scheme from soros is a traitor to their country and a a hater of the idea of mankind making progress.
@ coldwarrior:
Concur,and the old nazi collaborator cannot die soon enough.
@ refugee000:
i have a sneaking suspicion that there were more than just some israeli programmers writing code and hoping it works on this attack…its way too targeted and frankly perfect, there had to be inside info provided on the control systems and software in these facilities.
vagabond trader wrote:
i jut cant fathom why anyone would cut their country off at the knees over a scheme like this. it just baffles me, i guess i am just not smart enough to understand it.
vagabond trader wrote:
Maybe he will have the same Infernal Fate as Der Fuhrer!
@ coldwarrior:
Megolamania and inflicting chaos are difficult to understand.Unadulterated evil comes to mind but don’t want to start that again.
@ coldwarrior:
Money, and lots of it. Make no mistake, some people are going to get obscenely rich if they are ever able to get this scam in place. Youldn’t you like to skim say, 1/100Th of 1% of the GDP of the world into you account in the Caymans every year? They’ll never quite get to where they get their graft from every transaction worldwide, but hell, 75% would do nicely. After all, Global Warming® is just a hoax. It isn’t like anything is really going to happen to the planet, or that this scheme has anything to do with fixing it if there were.
Hi, lgf’s .0001 lukers of the AGW type.
Lud, you too.
Keep in mind your not allowed to open this link. Your cult does not allow.
http://www.arapahoebasin.com
follow to the web cams
http://www.wattsupwiththat.com
for sure do not let your eyes fall on this..
Charles knows all.
Dayum,speaking of global warming
Anyone know where Lewdie is these days?
They just never stop. This is all wealth redistribution & not
just to the Third World. They are redistributing wealth to
themselves, the guys with the patents.
One of the primary legs of the “climate change” scam is ethanol. The current fed mandate is that ethanol make up at least 10% of gasoline. I believe that mandate is scheduled to go to 15% in 2012 or 2014. Ethanol provides less miles per gallon and, if I read correctly, it takes a gallon and a half of some sort of other fossil fuels to create one gallon of ethanol. The ethanol mandate has driven up the price of all food all over the world. You and I may bitch when we see the price of our Cherrios and ribeyes go up 15 – 25%. When subsistence populations see that kind of price spike in corn, you better believe that many will or have starved. At some point, the ethanol scam has to be killed. Even Al Gore confessed that ethanol was a bad idea. I wish some of you engineering type brainiacs would do an extended piece on the subject of ethanol.
vagabond trader wrote:
Yes, he now is doing gardening , laundry & meal preperation
for Jumbo Johnson, to get his account back.
@ vagabond trader:
@ Iron Fist:
i should have been clearer, i know why the evil soros does what he does, and i know why his close associates do as well, what i mean is why would someone outside of that circle participate? why would a mid-sized business owner participate in a carbon market?
So, who sells chips and mother boards to the people who sell computers to Iran.
Dear Mad Mullas,
Give a moments thinking to the chance every new computer you buy may have some where in one chip , in just one of the the same malware.
Get to thinking, how many real friends do you have. Could be your just a mark for U.S. and all others.
Tick Tock goes the malware clock.@ refugee000:
@ RIX:
Is that what kids call a blow-job in these post-Clinton days?
Its a protection racket.@ coldwarrior:
@ huckfunn:
tewo factors drove up some food prices: the drought and fire in the ukraine/russia this summer, ukraine/russia produces ooodles of grain/wheat for the world…none was exported last cycle.
and ehtanol gobbled up corn here in the us…more farmers will grow corn to chase profit and price should go down next year.
coldwarrior wrote:
PR. The whole “recycling” gig is based on public shaming and public guilt. It doesn’t really do anything for the world (watch Penn & Teller’s Bullshit on recycling (once linked at the Swamp) to see why), but everybody participates, just about. Carbon Markets will work similary.
taxfreekiller wrote:
if everyone says no, than there is no racket. you cant have a market without buyers and sellers…which is shy the carbon market in chicago merk closed, no business.
@ refugee000:
Unfortunately, that’s just Langner’s speculation. It may be true, it may not.
Iron Fist wrote:
Right it’s code. Luddy has ditched Miss Sssssssssssssss!
Iron Fist wrote:
i will have to check that out…never heard of it.
@ RIX:
I bet dude is still obcessively reading every thread at the Swamp, even if he is on double-secret prohibition. Unless Chuck
cock-blockedIP banned him. Wouldn’t that be funny! Hey, Lewd! You can use a proxy to get around that! Here, bud. Don’t say I never did nothing for ya!(’cause you know he reads us
)
@ coldwarrior:
Oh, it is good. Check on YouTube. I’m sure they have it.
coldwarrior wrote:
When the mandate goes to 15%, the price will catch up. Again, the price spike will not affect our grocery budgets, but many third worlders will starve. Also, last week someone mentioned the effects of ethanol on the the seals and gaskets in the motors of our cars and trucks. What effect will the increase to 15% have? At any rate, is a massive and expensive scam that needs to be done away with.
coldwarrior wrote:
It’s beyond question that they needed the PLC program listing in order to pull this off. What’s not clear is how. I though I read somewhere that the virus was able to report the program back, but there are problems with that theory.
Iran’s Achilles heel is that they have to rely on outside suppliers and contractors for this control equipment. As long as that’s true, they’re vulnerable. I think the Nantaz contractor was Russian, but they may or may not have been knowingly cooperating.
Ironic that the American company Microsoft (with significant operations in Israel) left the barn door so wide open for them, and the Iranians are helpless to avoid using Windows.
Iron Fist wrote:
Heh. Being home all day, I recently watched my recycle bin being thrown into a big garbage truck, rather than the usual “recycle truck”. Ever since, whenever I hear the truck on “recycle day” I’ve noticed that this happens a pretty substantial part of the time.
Do you think they separate this at the end of the day? I rather think not.
OT, but only slightly:
This is what happens when people like Ludwig go off the rails.
Funny how the MSM hasn’t mentioned any of this…
snork wrote:
The Iranian worm is one of the most fascinating stories in recent memory. One has to wonder how much “failsafe” programming is embedded in a lot of the weapons systems that are sold abroad so they won’t be used on us.
MacDuff wrote:
When the recycling thing first started, I signed up with my garbage collector. Then I got the bill for $15 per month extra and I immediately unsigned.
@ lobo91:
Man, that conspiricy theorism can really drive one mad. Once you start peeling that onion you can get really lost and end up a paranoid psychotic howling at the moon.
@ huckfunn:
It is just a scam. Watch the Penn & Teller episode I refer to above. It is quite the eye-opener.
Here:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
That should show you what a scam it is…
@ lobo91:
I really dont understand how people turn out this way. Not every poor person has such a chip on their shoulder. Believe me, that is my life everyday and I don’t blame anyone for it nor do I begrudge anyone who has more than I do. These people have deeper issues.
@ MacDuff:
Just look at Chuck…
@ lobo91:
They are still trying to find his right wing tea party connection. They should check with KilgoreTrout, he probably knows or can create such a connection.
NoThreat2U wrote:
This is what happens when paranoid people start listening to the far left (or, for that matter, the far right).
huckfunn wrote:
Well, my garbage is handled by the city and there was no fee, but I kinda suspect that they’re only recycling when it’s “convenient” and the program is designed to make the local government look “green”.
Aw, let’s face it, the whole “green” movement is bullshit…
@ lobo91:
I think I’ve managed to stay relatively stable. Thank goodness for that. I just don’t see the point in bitching about something like that. Don’t like your circumstances, change them. Don’t wanna change them, shut up and quit whining. See, it isn’t that hard.
MacDuff wrote:
The actual weapons are pretty hack safe, but the systems aren’t. Remember the Syrian nuke plant, and the Russian air defense system that was as useless as tits on Chuck Johnson?
used to take C2H5OH backpacking all the time works
well with tropical cool aid
@ NoThreat2U:
Yeah, but you’re not clinically paranoid.
Iron,
google
Brian A. Terry,
40 years old
Best do as I do, no outburst re: this as others read this blog.
The two party evil money cult go lower and lower each day, many pay the cost. The cost is to high now.
RIP@ Iron Fist:
NoThreat2U wrote:
Root cause? Guy thinks he’s incredibly smart, therefore he shouldn’t have to work. Wealth should just flow to him (as it does to Obama) because of his awesomeness. So he’s lazy, and doesn’t work, and therefore doesn’t
make muchearn any money. Bingo! He’s being kept down by The Man.@ lobo91:
Well that’s a good thing. lol
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
Well damn…how come no one ever told me life worked that way?????? Now, I’m depressed. /
List of Senate earmarks in spending bill:
Cochran (R-MS) 230
Wicker (R-MS) 199
Murray (D-WA) 172
Harkin (D-IA) 152
Reid (D-NV) 129
Menendez (D-NJ) 123
Feinstein (D-CA) 121
Lautenberg (D-NJ) 120
Lincoln (D-AR) 114
Inouye (D-HI) 113
Schumer (D-NY) 106
Johnson (D-SD) 105
Landrieu (D-LA) 104
Specter (D-PA) 103
Pryor (D-AR) 96
Levin (D-MI) 93
Stabenow (D-MI) 91
Boxer (D-CA) 90
Brown (D-OH) 87
Grassley (R-IA) 86
Bingaman (D-NM) 86
Durbin (D-IL) 86
Akaka (D-HI) 83
Wyden (D-OR) 83
Cardin (D-MD) 79
Merkley (D-OR) 79
Gillibrand (D-NY) 79
Bond (R-MO) 78
Bennett (R-UT) 76
Casey (D-PA) 76
Udall (D-NM) 73
Reed (D-RI) 70
Kerry (D-MA) 69
Cantwell (D-WA) 69
Hagan (D-NC) 69
Voinovich (R-OH) 68
Klobuchar (D-MN) 68
Rockefeller (D-WV) 67
Dodd (D-CT) 66
Mikulski (D-MD) 65
Tester (D-MT) 65
Lieberman (ID-CT) 64
Hutchison (R-TX) 63
Burr (R-NC) 63
Baucus (D-MT) 62
Dorgan (D-ND) 60
Warner (D-VA) 60
Webb (D-VA) 58
Franken (D-MN) 58
Collins (R-ME) 57
Leahy (D-VT) 56
Murkowski (R-AK) 55
Whitehouse (D-RI) 55
Kohl (D-WI) 54
Conrad (D-ND) 52
Vitter (R-LA) 48
Cornyn (R-TX) 45
Snowe (R-ME) 44
Nelson (D-FL) 43
Chambliss (R-GA) 42
Crapo (R-ID) 41
Risch (R-ID) 41
Bennet (D-CO) 40
Brownback (R-KS) 39
Carper (D-DE) 39
Begich (D-AK) 37
McConnell (R-KY) 35
Roberts (R-KS) 35
Sanders (I-VT) 33
Shelby (R-AL) 32
Inhofe (R-OK) 32
Shaheen (D-NH) 32
Alexander (R-TN) 30
Udall (D-CO) 30
Lugar (R-IN) 29
Graham (R-SC) 27
Thune (R-SD) 26
Isakson (R-GA) 24
Nelson (D-NE) 23
Sessions (R-AL) 21
Bunning (R-KY) 21
Ensign (R-NV) 20
Gregg (R-NH) 13
Barrasso (R-WY) 4
Enzi (R-WY) 3
Hatch (R-UT) 1
Bayh (D-IN) 1
Corker (R-TN) 1
Brown (R-MA) 1
McCain (R-AZ) 0
Feingold (D-WI) 0
Kyl (R-AZ) 0
DeMint (R-SC) 0
Coburn (R-OK) 0
McCaskill (D-MO) 0
Johanns (R-NE) 0
LeMieux (R-FL) 0
Manchin (D-WV) 0
Coons (D-DE) 0
Kirk (R-IL) 0
@ NoThreat2U:
When it happens on the right, you get people who believe the government is building concentration camps, and spraying chemicals on us for mind control.
Notwithstanding:
Harry Reid, Nancy Pelois, B. Obama, we know you.
You know U.S..
Votes will count up in the end.
@ lobo91:
Actually there is this woman on facebook who is like that. She’s a rightwing nut job, really. She posts videos about chemtrails and FEMA camps. I only keep her around for entertainment. I don’t wanna go in that direction either. lol
And sorry to say the ones with “0″, have made vote trades with the ones with 230 where the one with 230 has done the deal for the “0″ guys to keep the deal unknown to U.S..@ MacDuff:
@ taxfreekiller:
Yeah, I saw that. It is a shame.
@ taxfreekiller:
There are none of them clean. I wish we could start over with a whole new House and Senate.
WOW! I was just reading about the border agent that got shot. Love our priorities…..sign a letter of intent with Mexico to stop violence at the border….against their people crossing illegally into the USA. They want law enforcement to protect the law breakers. How about they sign a letter to us stating that their border jumpers don’t kill our border agents. *shaking my head*
If we had real leaders in Washington D.C. not one human or one ounce of drugs would be attempted to cross the border with death of our Border Patrol in mind. All of them would know it would be a no pay operation, yet, millions flaunt U.S. with guns in hand at the reay to shoot and kill any one of U.S.. The leaders in Washington D.C. have put all of U.S. on the front lines of a combat zone now, includeing our wifes and children.
They are sick and must be replaced for their crimes aginst U.S..
Votes are all we have just now.
Vote:
@ NoThreat2U:
I think the key is that they start out as whackjobs. Then they latch onto a belief system.
So you’re probably fine.
As far as we know.
Awww,what a surprise,my two thugs are in for 129 earmarks to a state the size of your avg gated McMansion community with a golf course.@ MacDuff:
This is liberal economic babel, all disguising the failure of a scheme to supplant nationhood with international law. Knowing full well that only Western governments actually attempt to obey treaties.
Hey all!
I’m finally off!
@ lobo91:
As far as I know, I am fine. But how easy is it for someone to snap like that? I can’t imagine that there is not one positive thing in their life to keep them grounded. Oh well, I guess it takes all kinds.
@ pat:
Concise and true.
@ Bumr50:
Hey! Nice to see ya
@ Bumr50:
Off what?
Chavez going for the whole pot.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101214/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_venezuela_chavez
taxfreekiller wrote:
@ NoThreat2U:
Nice to see you too!
@ vagabond trader:
Could be a gourd, could be a rocker. I’ll hafta get back to you!
I’m still in Bridgeport, WV. Might go snowboarding later.
vagabond trader wrote:
His meds?
//
Poll finds voters not impressed with Republicans’ House takeover that hasn’t happened yet
@ mawskrat:
ehh?????
Got to go out on the back porch and gaze out across the river bottom.
Not easy to control that part that lingers deep within this Apache decendant of Mangus Colorados.
The rank evil of our leadership is something I have no understanding of, nor will I ever accept any excuse they lie into the records.
@ Bumr50:
What is doing in WV if I may ask?
@ lobo91:
She’s a pervert
Didn’t you see the Incest thread? Perv-vert! 
Iron Fist wrote:
But she’s not paranoid, so it’s okay.
@ pat:
Chavez needs to take a pill. I’ll leave the flavor and velocity up to the reader.
@ Iron Fist:
ROFLMAO******************** Yeah, I’m a big perv. I’m not safe to be around. lol
@ taxfreekiller:
We
can’twon’t defend our own borders. But you can be certain that if you or I had an unregistered machinegun or suppressor they’d kill us if it took it to reign us in. Terrible people that we are…@ lobo91:
Ha! Thank you….I think? lol
Iron Fist wrote:
Let’s try that again…
MacDuff wrote:
The trucks around here dump both my recycle bin and trash bin into the same vehicle. Initially when my town started the recycling program there were two separate trucks that came around. One for recycled stuff and one regular trash truck. Now it’s just one truck. Not too long ago someone pointed this out in a letter to the editor in the local paper and the city responded that there are two separate areas within the back of the truck. I have my doubts….
@ vagabond trader:
New job – gas well testing.
We’re working on something here called a “cobra frac.” Suffice to say the cold weather has been a nightmare. Lots of frozen stuff. And I’m working nights, so it’s even colder.
Lots of wells here in north/central WV (and SW PA for that matter.)
Once again, for the benefit of lurkers who haven’t seen it yet:
A Glimpse Of Our Pre-Industrial Past
Be sure to click the link for the video at the bottom. It confirms everything I have been saying.
OFF TOPIC: Let’s all join islamic Rage Boy as he sings!
@ Bumr50:
Congrats! You planning on relocating?
Macker wrote:
I often wonder if this guy is somthing of a local celebrity in the jihadi “community”….
Tax rate extension bill passed the Senate, 81-19.
@ vagabond trader:
Thanks!
Not major. Pittsburgh is pretty central in the Marcellus Formation – especially given the moratorium in NY.
I’ve spent equal time to the north and south since beginning, and haven’t had to travel more than three hours. Not to mention free hotel and per diem.
The wife wouldn’t mind moving away from the nightmare that is Route 28 (trust me), and so if anything we may be moving to the other side of town eventually.
As long as the price of gas stays pretty constant, I’ll have steady work locally for years to come. It’s like a gold rush in these smaller towns.
@ MacDuff:
We just had a big discussion about him over the weekend I believe it was. Let me see if I can find the right thread.
@ Bumr50:
Outstanding.
@ Bumr50:
Good deal! Glad things are working out for you….
New DoD.
lobo91 wrote:
And with all the shit piled onto the House version?
pat wrote:
last time he had rule by decree he nationalized the oil fields
@ vagabond trader:
@ MacDuff:
Thanks.
It’s been a godsend for us.
Plus I’m learning A LOT. There’s more than I could grasp in five years probably. With the service that my company provides, I interact with almost every procedure of the well.
@ Bumr50:
It was boom and bust here in the Barnett shale area. Make as much money as possible and save some if you can. Good luck
Macker wrote:
I’m not sure how their version compares to the House bill.
@ NoThreat2U:
OK…I am no good at searching the archives. lol I have a memory like swiss cheese.
[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Airborne, 1389. 1389 said: Soros and the New Price of Carbon http://t.co/pmhhQJ4 [...]
coldwarrior wrote:
AACK!
That’s a scary statement for me currently.
Maxine Waters would put me out of work too, if she had her druthers.
According to Drudge senate passes tax bill….developing
Bumr50 wrote:
scarier than a daily both ways rt 28 commute?
@ snowcrash:
Thanks. With any luck I’ll get a few years of experience before it turns south here. It’s a highly desirable skill set, and so I’ll probably be able to relocate comfortably if absolutely necessary.
lobo91 wrote:
Every time it goes back and forth, it picks up a couple of hundred billion dollars….so much for a rolling stone gatherng no moss!
The Cancun gaia nuts should have thrown soros into a volcano as a sacrifice along with their silly mayan prayers.
@ coldwarrior:
Hell if I know LOL!!
I’ll put the wife on in a day or two and she can tell YOU all about it!
I avoid it like the plague. I’ll drive an extra 15 miles. I don’t care.
Oh noes!
It’s going to snow this evening and tomorrow!
Who could have predicted snow in Colorado in December?!
Must go buy up all the food at Safeway!
//
@ Iron Fist:
Recycling is BS. Most of the recycle goods get put into the trash anyway. It’s just to make people feel better.
@ NoThreat2U:
It is because of all the porn you look at
@ lobo91:
Milk and dog food should get you through!
@ lobo91:
I dont believe you. My friend Bonnie lives in CO and was experiencing 60 degree weather the other day while we were freezing here. lol
@ Iron Fist:
Yeah right! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha I am just so warped. No one would ever believe you though.
@ Rodan:
Rodan, may I have your permission to mirror the previous thread on 1389 Blog, with a link-back and attribution of course?
@ lobo91:
Snow changing to ice and sleet predicted here; I think I’ll be needing more beer1
NoThreat2U wrote:
It was 60 here yesterday, and it’s 51 right now.
But tomorrow’s high is supposed to be 24. Snow’s supposed to start late tonight and continue all day tomorrow.
@ NoThreat2U:
Only we know the truth? And Grim. I think you’ve scared that boy away, I really do
vagabond trader wrote:
Leia has enough food to last a couple months, so she’s ready.
I do need to go to the store for myself, though. I just looked in the refrigerator, and it’s pretty empty.
@ NoThreat2U:
It is 71 right now in the DFW area. It won’t last long but it sure feels good.
@ lobo91:
I figured it would get colder there quicker than that.
@ Iron Fist:
Probably. lol RAWR!
Macker wrote:
Да.
@ snowcrash:
Newspaper says 23 degrees here. Snow is done for now though, at least that’s what they are telling us.
@ NoThreat2U:
The weather in the Front Range is kind of odd.
There can be huge differences between our weather and the other side of the mountains. Storms have to go around the mountains to get to us.
1389AD wrote:
i’ll answer for him…yes, please do!
lobo91 wrote:
CLIMATE CHAOS!!!
@ lobo91:
I cant remember where she said she lives out there. lol I kinda figured that the mountains would give you wacky weather. Usually by this time of year though, my cousins are out west skiing.
NoThreat2U wrote:
We really don’t get all that much snow in this area, usually. All the ski areas are on the western side of the mountains. They get dumped on. So does the eastern part of the state, which mostly looks like Kansas.
@ lobo91:
Gotta admit, I don’t know much at all about CO. Just makes me think of mountains and snow. lol
@ NoThreat2U:
It is 25℉ here right now. That is OK. We had snow earlier in the week. I missed work on Monday because of it.
@ Iron Fist:
It’s about as cold for you as it is up here for me! Damn. I still find that odd.
@ coldwarrior:
I was about to say that, LOL!
“No, I think the people are the big problem,” Zakaria said. “I mean, Americans — everybody wants to say the American people are so wonderful. You know, I think that when they come to recognize that they have to make sacrifices too that it’s not just wasteful — they need to have — they need to recognize that some of what’s going to happen here is fewer. They have to consume fewer things. They have to accept slightly higher taxes. And in the long run, you will have a much better economy.”
Hey Fareed? Kiss my ass. (video at WZ)
m wrote:
yeah, we dont even need to think about the answer!
@ coldwarrior:
@ m:
You two knock it off… The Science is Settled. lol
@ NoThreat2U:
Did you ever watch the Beverly Hillbillies? Do you remember Miss Jane Hathaway? Check out the DoD if you haven’t done so recently. ROFL
We extend the hand of friendship to Iran, Iran threatens to hang our generals:
Nuke ‘em flat, and they won’t bitch. Nor will they continue on their “path of Jihad”. Kill ‘em all, let Satan sort his minions out…
Ghost Cities of China!!!
/there’s going to be a big boom there soon.
@ NoThreat2U:
Iz Global Warming®
Iron Fist wrote:
If DC Town pisses off enough States there will be a call for a Constitutional Convention. I used to be against this as I feared that this would blow the country apart. Now I’m not so sure. It may be our last chance to keep this country from blowing itself all to Hell. As it is now nothing is going to change until more people start to feel a lot more pain.
@ snowcrash:
Yeah I did read it. lol lol What a little pansy. And he is chuck’s new best friend?
@ Iron Fist:
Is global freezing IMO. lol
@ Iron Fist:
When oh when will we take the gloves off and teach these bitches who the are messing with? America needs to put a good ass whipping on someone. I know that will make me feel better
@ NoThreat2U:
We are going to have to eventually. War is simply a necessary state of affairs sometimes. People who think everything can be solved diplomatically don’t live in the real world. Give WAR a Chance!
@ PaladinPhil:
Very interesting. If a real estate bubble burst in China would we even hear about it?
snowcrash wrote:
Not just yeah, but HELL YEAH! A lot of the regular folk, and the party elite, have invested heavily into real estate. If the market collapses, China might call in our markers.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Here’s a map that shows the climate zones.
The only climate zone we don’t have is rain forest.
NoThreat2U wrote:
And blow my Johnson while you’re at it.
snowcrash wrote:
if there is an econ collapse and no report just watch for riots in the urban areas.
that will be your evidence
@ PaladinPhil:
Amazing pictures.
lobo91 wrote:
but but but we have Temperate Rain Forrest in the North West…really, i have heard that term used
coldwarrior wrote:
Thanks very much!
I added some videos and links at the end of Rodan’s post.
LINK
coldwarrior wrote:
It’s true.
When I said “we,” I meant Colorado.
Every climate zone exists somewhere in the US.
coldwarrior wrote:
It keeps raining all summer on the west side of the Olympic peninsula. Forks, WA is like damp city. Never dries out there.
Carbon C
Carbon Dioxide CO2
Carbon Monoxide CO
One sounds dirtier than the others lets legislate against it.
@ 154coldwarrior: The HoH forest on the washington state peninsula is a rainforest I believe. I was there once. It was wet and very dark.
Gee,didn’t someone say there was no connection here
coldwarrior wrote:
You know you’re in it when you don’t tan, you rust.