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The Dishonest Unemployment Report.

by Flyovercountry ( 169 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Economy, Elections 2012, Media, Politics at January 10th, 2011 - 4:30 pm

On Friday, the government released its ridiculous version of propaganda which it called the unemployment report.  People fell for it this year, just like the one they fell for last year in the first week of January.  We’ve seen this movie before, it is called the temp hiring of the Christmas Selling Season.  the unemployment rate also fell due to workers who quit looking for work, because there are no jobs around.  The real unemployment level remains unchanged at 16.7%.   But we shouldn’t fault the Executive Branch, they’ve been telling us whoppers for two years now, and to a large extent, those whoppers have been bought.  While preparing to write today’s post, I came upon this column written by Larry Elder.  Mr. Elder does an excellent job in listing some of the more ridiculous whoppers told by the Obama Administration during the previous 2 years.  Here are some of my favorites:

1. Ninety-five percent of “working families” received a tax cut.
No. The bill gave tax cuts to those who pay taxes — and gave money, “tax credits,” to those who pay little or nothing in taxes. We used to call this welfare.

We are going to hear that a lot during the 2012 Presidential Campaign.  Note now, it actually means that we have officially placed about 50% of American Families on Welfare against their own better judgement.


3. ObamaCare will “bend the cost curve down.”
The alleged “savings” occur only by assuming politically unlikely and unpopular cuts in Medicare. Then there are sub-lies, including: “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor.” Obama later admitted, “I think that some of the provisions that got snuck in might have violated that pledge.”

We still are hearing this from a sycophantic media, and it is being used by them as a political weapon to claim that the new Congress is actually inflating the budget deficit by attempting to repeal the Obamacare fiasco.  This thing was scored as a budget saver by the CBO due to pure unadulterated chicanery on the part of the Democrats, and President Obama.  Furthermore, the CBO even qualified their scoring of the bill to let Americans know that the chicanery was used.

6. Stimulus “saved or created” 3.5 million jobs.
The administration had predicted that 90% of the “saved or created” jobs would be private-sector. Reason columnist Veronique de Rugy writes: “Four out of five jobs created were created in the public sector. (Two years into the stimulus) 682,370 jobs were reported created, not 3 million, and over 510,000 of these were in the public sector.”

It is difficult to look at the newly formed statistic of, “Saved or Created Jobs,” without giggling.  How on Earth can anyone with any working grey matter take this seriously?  How is a saved job measured?  Apparently, it was so tough that the definition of a saved job continues to change still in order to suit the political needs of the President.  This particular whopper may be the crowned prince of asinine governmental statistics.  The bottom line is that Americans are smart enough to know if they are working or not.  This one won’t fly.

9. Bush-era “deregulation” caused the Gulf oil spill.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Bush placed “the employees of Big Oil in charge of regulating their own industry.” The oil extraction business remains heavily regulated. Obama’s administration, not Bush’s, approved the Deepwater Horizon project.

President Bush is the source for everything which needs blame to be placed in the Universe.  I once quipped that Bush was to blame for the sky being blue and the sea green.  Wow, how prophecy comes true from a joke.  Faulty operation of a defective oil rig caused the disaster.  It should be noted here as well, the impact of the disaster was no where near as dire as the media predicted it would be.  Three weeks after the well was capped, the oil could not be found.  This was thanks to B.P. and Bobby Jindal ignoring the best efforts of the Obama Administration to make things purposefully worse.  When news of the oil’s disappearance reached the White House, President Obama actually threw a temper tantrum, it seems that a cleaned up disaster is not the help for mid-term elections that a giant slick would have been.

In any case, I have faith that the American People are smarter than this.  Come November of 2012, at least 51% of us will utilize our adult memories and fire this incompetent disaster.  May our next choice do a better job, America can ill afford 4 more years of this kind of leadership.

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  1. BuddyG
    1 | January 10, 2011 4:36 pm

    You’re not unemployed if you’re not looking for a job.

    It’s not pre-marital sex if you have no intention of getting married afterwards.


  2. 2 | January 10, 2011 4:38 pm

    How do you tell if a Democrat is lying? Their lips are moving. They have never told the truth on anything else. Who would suspect that they’d start telling it now, especially on something as politically troubling as a bad unemployment report? What was more telling was Bernanke’s testimony the other day that the employment picture was unlikely to get better in the next five years. He might as well have said “foreseeable future” and been done with it. This is the “new normal”, also called the Great Depression II. The media won’t call it that, but History will.


  3. eaglesoars
    3 | January 10, 2011 4:38 pm

    And NOBODY believed those jobless numbers. A four tenths of one percent drop and people would expect to see SOMEONE they know who is unemployed would be hired.

    They believe their own eyes, not that liar


  4. 4 | January 10, 2011 4:38 pm

    OT Dangerous schizo on Hannity right now.


  5. eaglesoars
    5 | January 10, 2011 4:40 pm

    Mars wrote:

    OT Dangerous schizo on Hannity right now.

    Does his speech sound slurred to you?


  6. 6 | January 10, 2011 4:40 pm

    @ Mars:

    Hillary is on Hannity? :P


  7. Nevergiveup
    7 | January 10, 2011 4:41 pm

    BuddyG wrote:

    It’s not pre-marital sex if you have no intention of getting married afterwards.

    That’s a “roll in the hay”?


  8. 8 | January 10, 2011 4:41 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Yeah.
    His statements make me think it’s someone who’s recently gone off their meds.@ Iron Fist:
    Worse, this guy is scary crazy.


  9. eaglesoars
    9 | January 10, 2011 4:41 pm

    Hannity: You’re sick, you’re twisted, I can’t help you.

    heh


  10. BuddyG
    10 | January 10, 2011 4:45 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    That’s a “roll in the hay”?

    Aaaa-Chooo sniff sniff


  11. 11 | January 10, 2011 4:47 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    I hope Hannity’s staff turns the guys number over to the police. Based on my education in Psych, it’s not a matter of if this guy becomes violent, it’s when.


  12. eaglesoars
    12 | January 10, 2011 4:50 pm

    @ Mars:

    He sounded like a run-of-the-mill liberal to me. Wouldn’t know a fact if it bit him in the ass.


  13. Nevergiveup
    13 | January 10, 2011 4:50 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    I hope Hannity’s staff turns the guys number over to the police. Based on my education in Psych, it’s not a matter of if this guy becomes violent, it’s when.

    WHo are you all talking about?


  14. 14 | January 10, 2011 4:53 pm

    We are in Great Depression II, but has anyone seen any T.V. or News specials about all the homeless? Anyone seen any news programs about all the women beaten by out of work husbands? Anyone see the news programs about kids going to bed hungry while living in a van-down-by-the-river? I guess this is the first Depression where everyone is taken care of, no homeless, no violence in homes without hope. Strange times. Guaranteed if a Pub takes the White House in 2012 the media will suddenly find whole nomadic peoples wandering from city to city, looking for a burger in a dumpster.

    A smart GOP operative should make all the predictions that the MSM and Dems will do if a GOP candidate takes the White House. Get it notarized, then put into a Safe Deposit box and open it sometime near the end of 2013. It would be spectacular, cause nothing easier to predict than what the MSM will do when a conservative comes to power.

    In fact why don’t we do that here as a project on this blog? Make reasoned predictions of stories that the MSM will run, write it up, pay to get it notarized, then put it into a Safe Deposit Box, or something where we can open it up and publish it on say 9/11 2013.


  15. NoThreat2U
    16 | January 10, 2011 4:56 pm

    OT…Break off another piece of Eastern Europe for the muzz…

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/01/agitation-for-muslim-autonomy-continues-in-serbias-sandzak-region.html

    In recent weeks, Zukorlic has called for autonomy for the Sandzak region, saying that the “Bosniaks (Muslims of Slav origin) are the only people of Europe who do not have their own exclusive state.”


  16. citizen_q
    17 | January 10, 2011 4:56 pm

    @ Mars:
    He sounded like my brother in-law.


  17. RIX
    18 | January 10, 2011 4:57 pm

    This thing was scored as a budget saver by the CBO due to pure unadulterated chicanery on the part of the Democrats, and President Obama. Furthermore, the CBO even qualified their scoring of the bill to let Americans know that the chicanery was used.

    This ObamaCare scoring by the CBO is the essence of
    garbage in , garbage out.
    They are basically actuaries & worked off of the
    assumptions that they got from the Administration.
    They cooked the data to get the desired result.


  18. 19 | January 10, 2011 4:57 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    The guy who just called Hannity. Seriously unhinged.


  19. 20 | January 10, 2011 4:58 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    @ eaglesoars:
    I don’t know, there’s certain things he said, and the way he said them that were a bit…off. I don’t think this is a run of the mill lib, he was even saying things that were far beyond what the press and demon party have been spreading. Call it a gut instinct then.


  20. 21 | January 10, 2011 5:00 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    What about, you know, that Boznia place? Give a Mohammedan an inch, and he’ll take your country, rape your wife and daughters, and cut off your head…


  21. 22 | January 10, 2011 5:00 pm

    [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by 1389, The Blogmocracy. The Blogmocracy said: The Dishonest Unemployment Report. http://goo.gl/fb/69Ey3 #barackobama #economy #elections2012 #media #politics [...]


  22. 23 | January 10, 2011 5:00 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    OT…Break off another piece of Eastern Europe for the muzz…
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/01/agitation-for-muslim-autonomy-continues-in-serbias-sandzak-region.html
    In recent weeks, Zukorlic has called for autonomy for the Sandzak region, saying that the “Bosniaks (Muslims of Slav origin) are the only people of Europe who do not have their own exclusive state.”

    Here we go again…


  23. eaglesoars
    24 | January 10, 2011 5:02 pm

    @ RIX:

    They are basically actuaries & worked off of the
    assumptions that they got from the Administration.
    They cooked the data to get the desired result.

    By law, the CBO can work only with the assumptions given.

    I’d like to see that law modified to allow the CBO to refuse to score on grounds the assumptions a pure crap.


  24. 25 | January 10, 2011 5:02 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    The guy who just called Hannity. Seriously unhinged.

    I just have to wonder what’s happened to Ludwig.

    Nothing good, I assume. :(


  25. Crashnburn01
    26 | January 10, 2011 5:02 pm

    @ Jehu:
    Homeless people don’t exist during Democratic Administrations. The next sighting of a homeless type will occur sometime in the afternoon of Jan20, 2012….


  26. NoThreat2U
    27 | January 10, 2011 5:03 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    @ 1389AD:
    This is how they do it! They overwhelm these places with their numbers and then bitch about autonomy. Just think, 4 or 5 little automous areas connected turn into one islamic country. It is so blatant. And keep in mind that Israel is a racist apartheid state for wanting a Jewish identity. *spit*


  27. 28 | January 10, 2011 5:04 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    OT…Break off another piece of Eastern Europe for the muzz…
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/01/agitation-for-muslim-autonomy-continues-in-serbias-sandzak-region.html
    In recent weeks, Zukorlic has called for autonomy for the Sandzak region, saying that the “Bosniaks (Muslims of Slav origin) are the only people of Europe who do not have their own exclusive state.”

    They lie.

    Actually, it is the SERBS who are specifically forbidden to have their own “exclusive” state – or in fact sovereignty of any meaningful sort.


  28. The Osprey
    29 | January 10, 2011 5:04 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Bosniak Muslims have their own state. It’s called Bosnia.


  29. 30 | January 10, 2011 5:05 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Notice how they want it tethnically cleansed as part of their demands. I say ship them all to fucking Saudi Arabia, and shoot them if they come back. Problem solved.


  30. Prebanned
    31 | January 10, 2011 5:05 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    Mars wrote:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    The guy who just called Hannity. Seriously unhinged.
    I just have to wonder what’s happened to Ludwig.
    Nothing good, I assume.

    See, You are a softie. Ludwig wouldn’t worry about you.

    Seriously, though, do you think it could have been Ludwig?


  31. eaglesoars
    32 | January 10, 2011 5:06 pm

    must feed my face. See you guys later.


  32. citizen_q
    33 | January 10, 2011 5:06 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    @ 1389AD:
    @ The Osprey:

    Never confuse muzzie grievance theater for truth.

    Ya, I know preachin to the choir.


  33. 34 | January 10, 2011 5:07 pm

    @ Prebanned:

    No, when Lewd Pig kills someone it woill be over Global Warming®. You know, the same thing that has record cold happening all over the world


  34. NoThreat2U
    35 | January 10, 2011 5:09 pm

    @ The Osprey:
    Tell it to the asshole in the article. lol lol

    @ Iron Fist:
    Amen brotha!

    @ citizen_q:
    Bitch, moan and seethe……..it’s a cycle for them.


  35. RIX
    36 | January 10, 2011 5:09 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    By law, the CBO can work only with the assumptions given.

    I’d like to see that law modified to allow the CBO to refuse to score on grounds the assumptions a pure crap.

    Exactly right, they were played.
    The Obama Admin kept tautung the “nonpartisan” CBO.
    The problem is that extreme partisans gave them
    the data


  36. citizen_q
    37 | January 10, 2011 5:10 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    A tri-cycle?

    *ducks and runs*


  37. Prebanned
    38 | January 10, 2011 5:11 pm

    Bosniaks (Muslims of Slav origin) are the only people of Europe who do not have their own exclusive state.”

    I say lets go for it, Deport all non-muslims from New Bosniakava.
    Next, create Exclusive states for the rest of Europe, deporting all muslims to New Bosniakava


  38. 39 | January 10, 2011 5:13 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    @ NoThreat2U:
    Bosniak Muslims have their own state. It’s called Bosnia.

    They are sharing it with Bosnian Croatians, which was their doing in the first place.


  39. Nevergiveup
    40 | January 10, 2011 5:13 pm

    OK this Jared kid apparently did NOT fail the pee test BUT:

    “Loughner was rejected from the Army in late 2008 when, during the application process, he admitted to using marijuana numerous times, according to a military source.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/10/loughners-meltdown-began-adulthood-near-say/#ixzz1AfnElZxQ


  40. NoThreat2U
    41 | January 10, 2011 5:16 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    Hell, with them I think it is a perpetual menstrual cycle. lol


  41. 42 | January 10, 2011 5:16 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    1389AD wrote:
    Mars wrote:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    The guy who just called Hannity. Seriously unhinged.
    I just have to wonder what’s happened to Ludwig.
    Nothing good, I assume.
    See, You are a softie. Ludwig wouldn’t worry about you.
    Seriously, though, do you think it could have been Ludwig?

    Me, a softie? I don’t get called that very often! :lol:

    I did not hear the person who called Hannity, so I cannot theorize on whether the caller could have been Ludwig. But Ludwig should be on the list of people who might break bad and do something ugly and violent if somebody doesn’t get him some effective help.


  42. 43 | January 10, 2011 5:17 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    Bosniaks (Muslims of Slav origin) are the only people of Europe who do not have their own exclusive state.”
    I say lets go for it, Deport all non-muslims from New Bosniakava.
    Next, create Exclusive states for the rest of Europe, deporting all muslims to New Bosniakava

    Were it up to me, I’d deport ‘em all to the KSA.


  43. Prebanned
    44 | January 10, 2011 5:17 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Prebanned:
    No, when Lewd Pig kills someone it woill be over Global Warming®. You know, the same thing that has record cold happening all over the world…

    You ignorant twit, it has been climate change for almost a decade.
    And it is MOST definately getting colder, is that not change?
    \ :-) \


  44. 45 | January 10, 2011 5:19 pm

    @ Prebanned:

    Ice Age™! BILLIONS WILL DIE!!!!!11ty!!

    :mrgreen:


  45. Prebanned
    46 | January 10, 2011 5:20 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    KSA

    Seriously, since Muslims revere Mohammed as thier surpreme example, they should all live in the KSA. No more long trips for haj.


  46. 47 | January 10, 2011 5:21 pm

    @ 1389AD:

    That is my take. The Mohammedans insist on living in Mohammedans lands. Fine. That doesn’t give them the right to export their Death Cult. Drive them back into the sand hell where the Insanity first was given birth, and leave them there.


  47. 48 | January 10, 2011 5:22 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    @ Prebanned:
    No, when Lewd Pig kills someone it woill be over Global Warming®. You know, the same thing that has record cold happening all over the world…
    You ignorant twit, it has been climate change for almost a decade.
    And it is MOST definately getting colder, is that not change?
    \ \

    Expert meteorologist Joe Bastardi revises his temp predictions downward:

    MONDAY 4 P.M. LONDON TIME
    SOI REPORT

    GREATEST OCTOBER-DECEMBER POSITIVE SOI ON RECORD.

    The SOI value of around 20.4 for October-December looks to be the strongest positive ever for that three-month period, defeating the “La Freaka” of 1917 for the same period, though that was the strongest yearly value ever. This strong signal for cooling assures us that the Earth’s energy budget is such that continued cooling of the global temp to beyond the reaction to the previous ninos, such as 1997-98 and 2006-07 is highly likely and the coldest monthly and yearly global temp since the 1990s are indeed possible in 2011 and/or 2012. I may need to adjust down a bit my forecast for normal for next year.

    Ciao for now.


  48. chickadee
    49 | January 10, 2011 5:24 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    OT…Break off another piece of Eastern Europe for the muzz…

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/01/agitation-for-muslim-autonomy-continues-in-serbias-sandzak-region.html

    In recent weeks, Zukorlic has called for autonomy for the Sandzak region, saying that the “Bosniaks (Muslims of Slav origin) are the only people of Europe who do not have their own exclusive state.”

    There is no place in the world where the muzz live peacefully with anyone. They are always agitating for more. And never compromise on anything. Spreading the screed and domination is their sole purpose.


  49. NoThreat2U
    50 | January 10, 2011 5:24 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Oh no no no. They are special. They deserve what every other human being has, but they still insist on the right to live as barbarians. I think they should pick a century and stick to it. Preferably the 7th. Then civilization can nip this shit in the bud instead of waiting for it to spread. Be nice to have a time machine and go back to suffocate moe in his crib.


  50. NoThreat2U
    51 | January 10, 2011 5:25 pm

    @ chickadee:
    It is. Like a broken damn record. When will we start pushing back?


  51. Prebanned
    52 | January 10, 2011 5:26 pm

    @ 1389AD:
    Good, it needs to get colder than crap.


  52. taxfreekiller
    53 | January 10, 2011 5:26 pm

    Update from Austin.

    Now we are on a RINO hunt.

    70 of 101 Republicans in the Republican cacus in Texas voted “secret balot” for Strauss.

    Now tomorrow’s vote in the House chamber will be a vote on the record.

    It will take 17 RINO’s to vote in Strauss and his Democrat buddies.

    17 is a lot for the gambling and Country Club and Rick Perry elites to buy off, it will cost them a ton of money. because if 17 do vote for the Democrast to run the house we we have 101 R’s (enough to do the job withon one fn commie Democrat). Any one who votes for Strauss will get thrown out in the primary next round, they only have two year terms and we the conservatives have the votes and canidates to do the job.

    Tick goes the clock on RINO’s in Texas.

    Now back to work calling them out in person.

    later


  53. yenta-fada
    54 | January 10, 2011 5:26 pm

    “Argentina is open to the Arab World”

    http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=43500


  54. 55 | January 10, 2011 5:28 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Oh no no no. They are special. They deserve what every other human being has, but they still insist on the right to live as barbarians. I think they should pick a century and stick to it. Preferably the 7th. Then civilization can nip this shit in the bud instead of waiting for it to spread. Be nice to have a time machine and go back to suffocate moe in his crib.

    This is too rough to put on my regular blog, so I put it on my link dump: LINK


  55. NoThreat2U
    56 | January 10, 2011 5:28 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Oh goodie. That was a smart move. That means they will be last when the crocodile starts feeding, right? /


  56. 57 | January 10, 2011 5:29 pm

    I’m hoping someone here has some info that might help me. I’m in an argument online with someone about Kevin (moonbat) Smith’s upcoming horror film Red State. I feel that if the name was changed he would get a lot more viewers since it’s a horror parody about a Westboro type church. My view is that the right hates Westboro as much or more than the left because of their actions, and that their actions at military funerals makes the Westboro nuts inherently liberal and not conservative. He feels that since they are religious then they are conservative.

    My actual feeling is that they are crazy and neither liberal or conservative, but any evidence making them leftwing would help shut this moron up.


  57. NoThreat2U
    58 | January 10, 2011 5:30 pm

    @ 1389AD:
    I like it :)


  58. NoThreat2U
    59 | January 10, 2011 5:31 pm

    @ Mars:
    Remind them that Fred Phelps ran for office as a democrat.


  59. 60 | January 10, 2011 5:32 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    Good, it needs to get colder than crap.

    In SC, it already is. It’s below freezing and there’s lots of snow on the ground and ice on the roads. :(


  60. 61 | January 10, 2011 5:32 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    The Obama Boom is just propaganda.

    I’m back everyone!


  61. Prebanned
    62 | January 10, 2011 5:33 pm

    @ Mars:
    Phelps is a registered democrat and ran for office numerous times as a democrat.


  62. 63 | January 10, 2011 5:33 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    And raised money for Al Gore.


  63. Brick
    64 | January 10, 2011 5:33 pm

    @ Mars:
    Fred Phelps. (D)


  64. 65 | January 10, 2011 5:33 pm

    @ Mars:

    They are Anarchists.


  65. NoThreat2U
    66 | January 10, 2011 5:34 pm

    There’s your ammo Mars ;)


  66. 67 | January 10, 2011 5:35 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    @ Brick:
    @ Prebanned:
    Thanks guys, somehow I missed that.
    Pointless argument anyway, Smith is too brainwashed to realize he’s alienating half his audience with his asinine title anyway.


  67. 68 | January 10, 2011 5:36 pm

    @ Rodan:

    The really bad parts of the Great Depression II are coming, though. The permanent unemployment is bad now, but it will just get worse. Housing won’t recover, and inflation is coming. We’re hosed :(


  68. Prebanned
    69 | January 10, 2011 5:36 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    Prebanned wrote:
    @ 1389AD:
    Good, it needs to get colder than crap.
    In SC, it already is. It’s below freezing and there’s lots of snow on the ground and ice on the roads.

    It’s all in your head.
    :-)


  69. Brick
    70 | January 10, 2011 5:37 pm

    @ Mars:
    Thank G-d for dead soldiers.

    Not likely a quote from the “right.”


  70. yenta-fada
    71 | January 10, 2011 5:38 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    The Obama Boom is just propaganda.
    I’m back everyone!

    Did you have a good time?


  71. 72 | January 10, 2011 5:39 pm

    @ Brick:
    I knew that bit, but the idiot I’m talking to says that his anti-gay agenda trumps it. Personally I don’t buy it. The entire thing is a fringe lunatic cult one speech away from a Jonestown.


  72. NoThreat2U
    73 | January 10, 2011 5:41 pm

    @ Mars:
    So conservatives are all anti gay? Well all conservatives are pro military and the Phelps crew isn’t…therefore, they are libs :)


  73. 74 | January 10, 2011 5:42 pm

    Whoah, amazing disappearing thread. Scary


  74. 75 | January 10, 2011 5:42 pm

    @ Mars:

    Where does their money come from? Someone is financing them. It takes big bucks to drive or fly around the country the way that they do. They aren’t a big Church. Economy of scale isn’t going on here. Their money comes from somewhere, and the MFM doesn’t seem interested in tracking that down. My bet is Soros, but that is simply speculation. I’d love to know the truth, though.


  75. 76 | January 10, 2011 5:42 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    Heh. I think we managed to prove quite solidly yesterday that conservatives have wide varying opinions on gays.


  76. NoThreat2U
    77 | January 10, 2011 5:44 pm

    @ Mars:
    Yes we did. I was just giving you a ridiculous blanket statement to throw back at the person you are arguing with. :)


  77. 78 | January 10, 2011 5:44 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090201022442AAVmM4X
    Turns out the Phelps family doesn’t really need outside funding. However, I suspect they may eventually be looking for Kool-aid donations.


  78. yenta-fada
    79 | January 10, 2011 5:46 pm

    Stock market in Bangladesh plunges; Muslims riot: (excuse du jour)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12149340


  79. 80 | January 10, 2011 5:47 pm

    @ Mars:
    Turns out there is a ton of suspicion that Soros is helping them secretly, but no direct (or indirect) connections yet.


  80. Brick
    81 | January 10, 2011 5:47 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ Brick:
    I knew that bit, but the idiot I’m talking to says that his anti-gay agenda trumps it. Personally I don’t buy it. The entire thing is a fringe lunatic cult one speech away from a Jonestown.

    Probably more right than wrong about that.

    You could run this by your friend…If they’re so right-wing why aren’t they invited to CPAC?


  81. eaglesoars
    82 | January 10, 2011 5:47 pm

    @ Mars:

    He feels that since they are religious then they are conservative.

    Go check out the schism in the Episcopal Church – ordaining gays, etc.


  82. 83 | January 10, 2011 5:48 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    \Yes but I’m exhausted. I have a funny thread for tomorrow night.


  83. 84 | January 10, 2011 5:48 pm

    @ Mars:

    I don’t believe that answer, especially the part about selling candy. Come on, that is a joke.


  84. 85 | January 10, 2011 5:49 pm

    Mars wrote:

    Whoah, amazing disappearing thread. Scary

    It was a pre release.


  85. eaglesoars
    86 | January 10, 2011 5:50 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ Mars:
    He feels that since they are religious then they are conservative.
    Go check out the schism in the Episcopal Church – ordaining gays, etc.

    For that matter, check out the Unitarians.


  86. 87 | January 10, 2011 5:50 pm

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2129
    Hah, knew I should go there first. Phelps is a major backer of Algoore. Fan of Saddam and Castro. Total and complete lefty. I win. LOL.


  87. yenta-fada
    88 | January 10, 2011 5:53 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    \Yes but I’m exhausted. I have a funny thread for tomorrow night.

    You found a new crazy guy with his own religion? :-) lol. Funny is good.


  88. NoThreat2U
    89 | January 10, 2011 5:53 pm

    @ Mars:
    Yay you!!!!!!


  89. 90 | January 10, 2011 5:54 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Yeah, interesting group. The ones here in my town have had a full year of nothing but leftists talks. The post the talks on their sign, highlights have included: Healthcare, a God Given Right, Islamophobia and the West, Pro-Choice is Pro-God, and other equally crazy crap.

    Is that really what they are? The lefts version of what religion should be like?


  90. Brick
    91 | January 10, 2011 5:54 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ yenta-fada:
    \Yes but I’m exhausted. I have a funny thread for tomorrow night.
    You found a new crazy guy with his own religion? lol. Funny is good.

    +1 could use a bit of humor as of late. :)


  91. 92 | January 10, 2011 5:55 pm

    Boy, this one ran off the rails early.

    It will be very interesting to see the next set of economics reports, post-holiday season.


  92. eaglesoars
    93 | January 10, 2011 5:56 pm

    @ Mars:

    Is that really what they are? The lefts version of what religion should be like?

    Apparently so.


  93. 94 | January 10, 2011 5:59 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    The only time you hear the words “Jesus Christ” in a Unitarian Church is when the janitor slips on the stairs…


  94. coldwarrior
    95 | January 10, 2011 5:59 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    …always beating on the country club…

    :lol:


  95. NoThreat2U
    96 | January 10, 2011 6:01 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    LMAO****** That was funny!! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha


  96. eaglesoars
    97 | January 10, 2011 6:02 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    The only time you hear the words “Jesus Christ” in a Unitarian Church is when the janitor slips on the stairs…

    Actually, what Dianna wrote was ‘when the janitor falls down the stairs” – if you want to be verbatum.

    She wrote it in response to one of my posts marveling at a Unitarian funeral service we had just returned from. No “God”, no “amen” no “Jesus Christ”.

    It was very funny. I still use it.


  97. 98 | January 10, 2011 6:03 pm

    ugh, the scary freak mugshot is up on drudge now. freakish. and he looks WAY older than 22.


  98. orangecrush
    99 | January 10, 2011 6:04 pm

    If Obama was a real leader he would go on national TV and apologize for being “the hater in chief” and ask people to do better with him and be more forgiving. This is definitely a teachable moment in history. The buck stops at his desk not Sarah Palins as Geraldo is trying to cement down as the cornerstone of the Tuscon tragedy.

    Boehner Blasts Obama’s ‘Enemies’ Line
    Sadly, we have [a] president who used the word ‘enemy’ for fellow Americans…fellow citizens,” the speech continues. “He uses it for people who disagree with his agenda for bigger government…people speaking out for a smaller, more accountable government.”

    Obama’s turnout pitch to Latinos: Get out there and punish your “enemies”

    I wonder how this rhetoric squares with his standard condescending line about Republican-leaning voters not thinking clearly because their minds are clouded by economic anxiety

    Obama on small-town voters: Bitter, xenophobic, religious
    Insensitive to the handicapped.


  99. waldensianspirit
    100 | January 10, 2011 6:06 pm

    All you need to do is drive across country and note the for sale, for rent, for lease, for lease, for sale, for rent signs like one unending burma shave ad to know the economy is gone and the unemployment report is bogus


  100. Brick
    101 | January 10, 2011 6:07 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    Boy, this one ran off the rails early.
    It will be very interesting to see the next set of economics reports, post-holiday season.

    Purely anecdotal…

    This year, I know more people who were employed at the beginning of the year and are now NOT, that those who weren’t at the beginning of the year and now are.

    This 10 day trend projected forward gets 30 times worse by the end of the year.


  101. snowcrash
    103 | January 10, 2011 6:07 pm

    @ Kirly:
    Wow, if there ever was such a thing as the face of mental illness, that might be it.


  102. eaglesoars
    104 | January 10, 2011 6:08 pm

    @ orangecrush:

    ask people to do better with him and be more forgiving.

    He’d be wasting his time with me. I’m not in the habit of forgiving totalitarian liars.

    And I’m not starting now.


  103. waldensianspirit
    105 | January 10, 2011 6:09 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    ugh, the scary freak mugshot is up on drudge now. freakish. and he looks WAY older than 22.

    A Tea Partier who didn’t vote on Nov 2, 2010!


  104. 106 | January 10, 2011 6:10 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ Kirly:
    Wow, if there ever was such a thing as the face of mental illness, that might be it.

    i know! that guy just looks scary!


  105. 107 | January 10, 2011 6:10 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    A Tea Partier who didn’t vote on Nov 2, 2010!

    an impossible combination!


  106. Brick
    108 | January 10, 2011 6:10 pm

    @ orangecrush:
    Erkel only knows how to order, not lead.


  107. rain of lead
    109 | January 10, 2011 6:12 pm

    just a little humor break

    damn those russians know how to party at a wedding

    “Adult” Games At A Russian Wedding

    “hey Fist, is this what your wedding is gonna look like?


  108. orangecrush
    110 | January 10, 2011 6:12 pm

    Democrats prefer muslims over republicans.


  109. orangecrush
    111 | January 10, 2011 6:15 pm

    Latest zombie news.

    if you are looking for a great Norweigian nazzi zombie movie I highly recommend Dead Snow. 4/5 stars


  110. 112 | January 10, 2011 6:16 pm

    @ Kirly:
    Yeah, I’ve been seeing a lot of that at paranormal sites the last few years, no ones really sure why it’s becoming a more prevalent in a certain area.


  111. 113 | January 10, 2011 6:17 pm

    @ Kirly:

    Unpossible! :twisted:


  112. chickadee
    114 | January 10, 2011 6:17 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    ugh, the scary freak mugshot is up on drudge now. freakish. and he looks WAY older than 22.

    Oh my, he looks twice his age. Maybe in his late 40′s.
    And completely unhinged. Look at his crazed eyes.


  113. 115 | January 10, 2011 6:19 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    I don’t think my Old Lady would approve…

    Truth told, I’m the one who wants it more formal. I never anticipated remarrying, and I want it to be a good one.


  114. 116 | January 10, 2011 6:20 pm

    orangecrush wrote:

    Democrats prefer muslims over republicans.

    Very much so. They’d put Republicans in camps if they could. They will surrender to Mohammedans when they can…


  115. yenta-fada
    117 | January 10, 2011 6:21 pm

    Brick wrote:

    Mike C. wrote:
    Boy, this one ran off the rails early.
    It will be very interesting to see the next set of economics reports, post-holiday season.
    Purely anecdotal…
    This year, I know more people who were employed at the beginning of the year and are now NOT, that those who weren’t at the beginning of the year and now are.
    This 10 day trend projected forward gets 30 times worse by the end of the year.

    Well, the TSA is looking for help at THIS pay scale:

    http://www.tsa.gov/join/careers/pay_scales.shtm


  116. yenta-fada
    118 | January 10, 2011 6:23 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ rain of lead:
    I don’t think my Old Lady would approve…
    Truth told, I’m the one who wants it more formal. I never anticipated remarrying, and I want it to be a good one.

    You are such a sentimental, romantic scary person. :-) lol


  117. 119 | January 10, 2011 6:23 pm

    @ chickadee:
    I’ve got a feeling that the key to this may lie in his alcohol poisoning a few years ago. It may have destroyed something in his mind that was keeping him controlled.


  118. rain of lead
    120 | January 10, 2011 6:24 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    attaboy
    women do like romance
    make her bust a tear


  119. chickadee
    121 | January 10, 2011 6:24 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    orangecrush wrote:

    Democrats prefer muslims over republicans.

    Very much so. They’d put Republicans in camps if they could. They will surrender to Mohammedans when they can…

    And the crocodiles will have no mercy on them.
    This is the reasoning power of the demorats who want to run this country.


  120. RIX
    122 | January 10, 2011 6:24 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ Kirly:
    Wow, if there ever was such a thing as the face of mental illness, that might be it.

    Behold the face of evil. Who smiles for their mugshot?
    This guy looks LGF account in good standing crazy.


  121. 123 | January 10, 2011 6:26 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    I’ve thought about applying locally. Having some problems with the federal application system though. Interesting pay scales, they seem a little lower than the comparable GS scale.


  122. coldwarrior
    124 | January 10, 2011 6:26 pm

    RIX wrote:

    snowcrash wrote:
    @ Kirly:
    Wow, if there ever was such a thing as the face of mental illness, that might be it.

    Behold the face of evil. Who smiles for their mugshot?
    This guy looks LGF account in good standing crazy.

    that kid looks possessed


  123. chickadee
    125 | January 10, 2011 6:28 pm

    @ Mars:
    And if he is in fact a schizophrenic, the pot smoking and severe alcohol poisoning is gasoline on the fire.


  124. snowcrash
    126 | January 10, 2011 6:29 pm

    @ orangecrush:
    Dead snow? scary stuff.


  125. RIX
    127 | January 10, 2011 6:29 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    By law, the CBO can work only with the assumptions given.

    I’d like to see that law modified to allow the CBO to refuse to score on grounds the assumptions a pure crap.

    Yeah, he really does , doesn’t he?
    He has some kind of weird pagan altar in his
    backyard. Who knows if he digs Satan?


  126. yenta-fada
    128 | January 10, 2011 6:30 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I’ve thought about applying locally. Having some problems with the federal application system though. Interesting pay scales, they seem a little lower than the comparable GS scale.

    I don’t know anything about pay scales. I did notice that they have a special category for veterans. They seem to like people with law enforcement backgrounds. Certainly the benefits are great with these jobs. Personally, I’d rather have intelligent people running this crap than the current dunderheads.


  127. 129 | January 10, 2011 6:31 pm

    @ chickadee:
    Big time.


  128. 130 | January 10, 2011 6:32 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    That’s the problem. I’m not sure how much I’d enjoy working under the current rules and stupidity.


  129. 131 | January 10, 2011 6:32 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    snowcrash wrote:
    @ Kirly:
    Wow, if there ever was such a thing as the face of mental illness, that might be it.
    Behold the face of evil. Who smiles for their mugshot?
    This guy looks LGF account in good standing crazy.

    that kid looks possessed

    i agree. bizarre.


  130. yenta-fada
    132 | January 10, 2011 6:33 pm

    orangecrush wrote:

    Latest zombie news.
    if you are looking for a great Norweigian nazzi zombie movie I highly recommend Dead Snow. 4/5 stars

    Any suggestions for the person not sufficiently creative to be looking for a great Norweigan nazi zombie movie?


  131. 133 | January 10, 2011 6:33 pm

    @ chickadee:
    Something strange that came up in my Abnormal Psych class some years ago. It seems that a lot of drug use and abuse may be attributed to people with mental health problems they are unaware of, trying to self-medicate without realizing it.


  132. RIX
    134 | January 10, 2011 6:33 pm

    @ RIX:
    CW
    I was responding to “he looks possesed”


  133. waldensianspirit
    135 | January 10, 2011 6:34 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ chickadee:
    I’ve got a feeling that the key to this may lie in his alcohol poisoning a few years ago. It may have destroyed something in his mind that was keeping him controlled.

    Plus a lousy public education which applauded his learning it his way with his ‘open’ mind and reveled in insuring he never heard of the Ten Commandments. That way he could be a ‘true’ human being without the ‘bias’ of morality


  134. yenta-fada
    136 | January 10, 2011 6:34 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    That’s the problem. I’m not sure how much I’d enjoy working under the current rules and stupidity.

    Take it for a year or so and save up some money. If you hate it, then quit after a respectable amount of time.


  135. 137 | January 10, 2011 6:35 pm

    http://www.ionlinemovie.com/Movie/Western/Snowblind/
    I’m actually going to watch this tonight. A movie made and freely distributed. Some of the acting so far is weak, CGI is decent but a bit outdated. But, I’m interested in the fact that it’s a freely distributed movie. I’d love to see more open source film projects.


  136. Brick
    138 | January 10, 2011 6:38 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Before my current gig panned out…I was one step away from wearing that uniform. As much crap as they get in the press…I can only imagine that their current admissions testing is less rigorous than before.


  137. yenta-fada
    139 | January 10, 2011 6:38 pm

    Dumb joke:

    The Mexican maid asked for a pay increase.

    The wife was very upset about this and decided to talk to her about the raise.

    She asked: “Now Maria, why do you want a pay increase?”

    Maria: “Well, Señora, there are tree reasons why I wanna increaze.”
    “The first is that I iron better than you.”
    Wife: “Who said you iron better than me?”
    Maria: “Jor huzban he say so.”
    Wife: “Oh yeah?”
    Maria: “The second reason eez that I am a better cook than you.”
    Wife: “Nonsense, who said you were a better cook than me?”
    Maria: “Jor hozban did.”
    Wife increasingly agitated:
    “Oh he did, did he???”
    Maria: “The third reason is that I am better at sex than you in the bed.”
    Wife, really boiling now and through gritted teeth.
    “And did my husband say that as well?”
    Maria: “No Señora……. The gardener did.”
    Wife: “So how much do you want?”


  138. chickadee
    140 | January 10, 2011 6:39 pm

    @ Mars:
    i’ve read that too. Apparently they are trying to fix their messed up thoughts or soften the intensity.


  139. 141 | January 10, 2011 6:40 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    The Notebook.
    One of my all time favorites.


  140. yenta-fada
    142 | January 10, 2011 6:42 pm

    Brick wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Before my current gig panned out…I was one step away from wearing that uniform. As much crap as they get in the press…I can only imagine that their current admissions testing is less rigorous than before.

    Actually, I have no idea how a bureaucrat thinks. You may be right. The appeal of these jobs is financial survival. I play the stock market for a living, so you know how crazy I must be.


  141. NoThreat2U
    143 | January 10, 2011 6:42 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Very good!!! LMAO*****


  142. waldensianspirit
    144 | January 10, 2011 6:42 pm

    Well there goes space-time travel


  143. yenta-fada
    145 | January 10, 2011 6:43 pm

    typicalwhitey wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    The Notebook.
    One of my all time favorites.

    Thank you. And WONDERFUL to see you!! :-) (jumps up and down in my head)


  144. 146 | January 10, 2011 6:44 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    Hey Chick!
    What the hell happened??


  145. 147 | January 10, 2011 6:46 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Awww thank you!
    I am feeling a little more myself!


  146. 148 | January 10, 2011 6:46 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I am, um, complex

    :mrgreen:


  147. 149 | January 10, 2011 6:47 pm

    @ typicalwhitey:

    Nice to see you! I was inquiring about you just the other day. I hope all is well :)


  148. yenta-fada
    150 | January 10, 2011 6:47 pm

    “The problem with internet quotations is that many of them are not
    genuine.” Abraham Lincoln


  149. NoThreat2U
    151 | January 10, 2011 6:48 pm

    @ typicalwhitey:
    Hey Sugarpie!! What happened where?? lol


  150. Beeduwine
    152 | January 10, 2011 6:49 pm

    @ typicalwhitey:

    Pretty woman! Long time no screen.


  151. yenta-fada
    153 | January 10, 2011 6:49 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I am, um, complex…

    Who could have guessed just from reading your ideas?/ bwaaaahaaahaaa


  152. vagabond trader
    154 | January 10, 2011 6:51 pm

    @ Mars:

    Dual diagnosis. I was in charge of a floor with 60 of them. A few were scary but manageable with therapeutic doses of anti psychotics. There was one who killed someone with a car,the voices commanded him. Docile as a lamb with treatment. That is the problem,keeping them on their meds. Damn near impossible with the current legal system.


  153. 155 | January 10, 2011 6:52 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Doing a lot better and thanks for caring!


  154. Brick
    156 | January 10, 2011 6:52 pm

    typicalwhitey wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    The Notebook.
    One of my all time favorites.

    Am I a metrosexual if I say the screen gets fuzzy at parts when I watch that?

    And, nice to see you back. :)


  155. 157 | January 10, 2011 6:53 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    You still cohabitating?@ Beeduwine:
    Hey Bee!


  156. Brick
    158 | January 10, 2011 6:54 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    “The problem with internet quotations is that many of them are not
    genuine.” Abraham Lincoln

    Snopes says that’s not true. They attribute it to Jefferson.


  157. 159 | January 10, 2011 6:54 pm

    @ vagabond trader:
    I lost a chance at a job due to that. I had applied to a position as a go between for the mental health center and the homeless. They didn’t seem to agree with my idea that most of the homeless on the street in our city were there because of choice (not to take their meds esp.) and not because of social injustice.


  158. NoThreat2U
    160 | January 10, 2011 6:55 pm

    @ typicalwhitey:
    Hell no. Never again. Too old for that shit. Got my priorities straight now. Loving every minute of it too. No more stress. I already raised two kids, I don’t need to raise a so called adult. lol


  159. Beeduwine
    161 | January 10, 2011 6:58 pm

    typicalwhitey wrote:

    @ NoThreat2U:
    You still cohabitating?@ Beeduwine:
    Hey Bee!

    Yeah, I won them over. Glad to see you smiling!


  160. 162 | January 10, 2011 6:58 pm

    hi whitey!!!!


  161. vagabond trader
    163 | January 10, 2011 7:01 pm

    @ Mars:

    You are absolutely correct,I know of people who were assisted with housing,supervision ,etc but they refused to take their meds and apparently prefer the streets. Most are harmless eyesores,very sad. This creature is evil personified imho.


  162. 164 | January 10, 2011 7:01 pm

    @ Kirly:
    Hey Kirly! How you been??


  163. rain of lead
    165 | January 10, 2011 7:09 pm

    @ typicalwhitey:

    hey TW
    missed ya girl
    glad you made it to the other side
    ya missed momcats b-day yesterday
    the other ladies are planning a take over of the radio show
    the next time it’s on you need to be there


  164. NoThreat2U
    166 | January 10, 2011 7:11 pm

    @ rain of lead:
    Did you happen to go the spa route? Maybe next year…or Valentines Day!


  165. rain of lead
    167 | January 10, 2011 7:13 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    I’m thinking V-day
    gots a little more time to prepare
    we wound up going out and having a nice steak dinner


  166. 168 | January 10, 2011 7:17 pm

    @ rain of lead:
    Whe and where and I will be there!


  167. 169 | January 10, 2011 8:10 pm

    typicalwhitey wrote:

    @ Kirly:
    Hey Kirly! How you been??

    same ol’ same ol’ here – falling apart! but, still employed! heh.


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