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Rebranding Le Front National

by coldwarrior ( 188 Comments › )
Filed under Elections, France, immigration, Islam, Patriotism, Politics at January 18th, 2011 - 11:30 am

The National Front (FN) in France has moved to re-brand itself. Gone is the founder, Jean-Marie Le Pen, the one-eyed Foreign Legion paratrooper and Algeria Campaign veteran. He is replaced by his daughter, 42 year old Marine Le Pen who won 68% of the party vote, both are pictured below:

Marine Le Pen defeated a more traditional rival to gain control of FN. This is rather important. She has distanced herself from her father’s statements that minimize the Holocaust in WW2 and “has sought to distance herself from her father’s anti-Semitic tones, and has taken an inclusive line with gays and feminists – while at the same time continuing the anti-immigrant and anti-Islam diatribes that have given the National Front some of its special piquancy. France in recent years has voted for a ban on Islamic veils or full face covering in public places.”. Her victory against the traditionalists indicates that the majority of the FN have realized that the enemy of France and French culture is Islam.

Marine Le Pen has run away from her father’s anti-semitism and is taking the FN with her to form a party that is nationalistic, for traditional French values and identity, and is more soveriegn:

Le Pen is indeed trying to reposition the party away from the old far right that her father epitomized, particularly that he and Gollnisch minimized or downplayed the Holocaust. Le Pen pere was not above courting the Muslim vote saying, that there was nothing contradictory between Islamic belief and the Front ideology. He was also hostile to Israel, calling Gaza “the world’s largest concentration camp”. He also retained the anti-Americanism that was the calling card of the old far right.

Marine Le Pen would like to emulate the successes of the Dutch Freedom Party of Geert Widers and the latest electoral breakthrough of the Swedish Democrats by adopting the mantle of secularism and a defense of traditional values against the Islamic wave that is threatening to engulf Europe.

She has also made overtures to the Jews. After the brutal murder of Ilan Halimi by an immigrant anti-Semitic gang in 2006, she offered to march in protest of the murder and despite the protests of Jewish organizations she eventually did so with other politicians. Le Pen claims that due to Islamic influence one cannot teach English “the language of imperialism” or talk about the Holocaust for fear of offending the Muslims. She is placing her fears of Islam in the context of women’s rights, gay rights and other liberal causes, again in line with the more successful political counterparts in Europe.


In her maiden speech to supporters, Le Pen struck a less abrasive tone than her father, focusing on the state as the provider of social care, lambasting the effects of globalization and urging tighter state control of the economy.

But her booming voice and a brief allusion to what she sees as the danger of Islam were reminiscent of her father, who until stepping down this weekend dominated French far-right politics for four decades.

“The choice of globalization is deregulation… demographic submersion and the dilution of our civilization,” she told the crowd, who waved flags and bellowed: “France for the French!”

She said the state must punish any public official who tries to get around a 1905 law banning the use of public money to construct places of worship such as mosques, and end single-sex swimming sessions in public swimming pools for Muslim women.

Le Pen senior managed a run-off for the presidency with Jacques Chirac, but he said Sunday that in 2011, his daughter is more “in tune with the times.”Indeed, Ms. Le Pen, in her first speech as party leader, immediately made overtures to both right and left. She called for economic and social “patriotism,” saying that France is not “a caliphate,” or Islamic state, and describing the trends of globalization that particularly concern the French left as “a cultural tsunami and a moral Chernobyl.”

She also spoke to core National Front views that France’s destiny as a great nation is being diluted and damaged by foreigners and by the European project of integration: “Our country is at risk of dismemberment. … The values of our civilization, our traditions, our way of life, and our customs are being contested in many quarters – in schools, in the public sphere, and in entire neighborhoods.”

The younger Le Pen’s vote-getting potential in the large center-right of French politics is said to unnerve President Nicolas Sarkozy – and may account for the president’s shift this summer to a more overtly law-and-order message that targeted immigrants, Islam, and Roma gypsies. That effort appeared to backfire, and Mr. Sarkozy has since sought to portray himself more in international terms as the leader of the G-20 this year.

Le Pen junior defeated a challenge inside the party conducted this fall by traditionalists led by Bruno Gollnisch, who were considered more hard line espousers of far-right doctrine. Mr. Gollnisch, like Le Pen père, have cast doubt on the extent of the Holocaust. Gollnisch lost the bid and declined to accept the No. 2 party position.

On a cursory reading, it appears that the FN is attempting a re-branding. They are anti-Islamic immigrant and pro-French culture and against the ever enlarging EU bureaucracy that destroys national sovereignty.

By distancing herself from her father’s notorious xenophobia and slurs against Jews and the Holocaust, the younger Le Pen has managed to present a softer alternative while still tapping into deepening fears of Islam here. She recently compared Muslims praying in the streets to the Nazi occupation of France, and is being sued for libel over the comment.

Alternately appearing at ease and as stiff-shouldered as a general during her acceptance speech Sunday, Le Pen called in a husky voice for a stronger nation and the right “not to eat halal against one’s will,” a reference to meat that is slaughtered according to Muslim ritual. She argued for keeping France strictly secular, a topic popular across the political spectrum here.

Le Pen’s opposition to the euro and to the spread of Islam in France has won her growing support from members of Sarkozy’s Union for a Popular Movement party, or UMP, disappointed with the president, whose popularity slump could cost him reelection.

The National Front typically wins 10% to 15% of votes during local and national elections, despite having a harder time getting members elected into office. In 2002, Jean-Marie Le Pen shocked the country when he reached the presidential run-off against Jacques Chirac.

The National Front’s higher numbers in recent opinion polls have been attributed in part to Sarkozy’s attempt to legislate on issues typically found on far-right agendas.

By cracking down on crime committed by immigrants and Roma migrants, as well as successfully pushing for the passage of a law forbidding women to wear full-body Muslim veils, or burkas, Sarkozy has been accused of legitimizing the National Front’s platform in a botched attempt to win conservatives’ votes.

Sarkozy “did us an immense service,” said Marine Le Pen in a recent interview with the French periodical Causeur. “He came onto our territory. So he de-demonized us.”

This will be an interesting party and race to watch. Thus far, I cannot find fault with her message from what was presented in the articles. It appears she is trying to move the FN to a culture and country/ France for the French approach. There is a place for national identity and culture in each nation. These are not something to throw away on a whim, they are what makes countries unique and should be celebrated.

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  1. Brick
    1 | January 18, 2011 11:36 am

    Nothing wrong with a little nationalism, in moderation of course.


  2. 2 | January 18, 2011 11:38 am

    I support any European Nationalist movement based on preservation of their culture, not biology. Everyone is entitled to a homeland. France for the French, Spain, Italy and Portugal for the Latins, Israel for the Jews and so on.


  3. 3 | January 18, 2011 11:38 am

    Brick wrote:

    Nothing wrong with a little nationalism, in moderation of course.

    As long as it’s based on Language and culture, not race or biology. Then its all kosher!


  4. coldwarrior
    4 | January 18, 2011 11:44 am

    Brick wrote:

    Nothing wrong with a little nationalism, in moderation of course.

    sure, why cant the french be proud of things french. why hand over the country to the muzz?

    i am very very happy to see these right parties drop the anti-jewish/israel nonsense. they have realized that the jews are not the enemy. they are an ally against the muzz.


  5. Beeduwine
    5 | January 18, 2011 11:44 am

    FN… I dunno. If they are consistently on the right side of things for the next 2-3 years, then maybe, but right now they are just bastards. Worse, French bastards.


  6. eaglesoars
    6 | January 18, 2011 11:47 am

    Well, this is interesting. Introducing ‘nationalism’ as a virtue from one of the leading countries of the EU, which officially considers ‘nationalism’ an evil premise for war.


  7. 7 | January 18, 2011 11:48 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Agree, Christianity comes from Judaism and culturally Jews are very compaitable with Christians. There’s really no need for beef or hostility. Islam is the enemy, not Jews or Israel.


  8. 8 | January 18, 2011 11:50 am

    The European Union needs to go. Its ok to have free trade and a common market, but the fact each nation should pursue its own destiny.


  9. vagabond trader
    9 | January 18, 2011 11:52 am

    They are just now realizing a 10% muzz population is a clear and present danger as opposed to 1% Jews. We’ll see.


  10. The Osprey
    10 | January 18, 2011 11:52 am

    When I hear FN, I think of the Belgian firearms manufacturer.

    Belgian…uh oh…VLAAMS BELANG!


  11. Tanker
    11 | January 18, 2011 11:53 am

    @ Rodan:

    I agree, but as with anyone/group that has had an anti-jewish stance, they need to stay under our microscope for awhile before we give our stamp of approval! IMHO


  12. coldwarrior
    12 | January 18, 2011 11:53 am

    @ Beeduwine:
    @ vagabond trader:

    oh yes, they have a way to go.

    there is a trend, as the article states, that the right parties in europe are remaking themselves.


  13. 13 | January 18, 2011 11:56 am

    Tanker wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    I agree, but as with anyone/group that has had an anti-jewish stance, they need to stay under our microscope for awhile before we give our stamp of approval! IMHO

    Yeah but, things change and circumstances change. Things are never static.


  14. m
    14 | January 18, 2011 11:56 am

    Why Jobs Haven’t Come Back
    Will high unemployment remain a constant feature of the new economy?

    Why it’s because

    some jobs aren’t needed

    Duuuuuh.

    Hey Iron Fist – BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!


  15. 15 | January 18, 2011 11:58 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Beeduwine:
    @ vagabond trader:
    oh yes, they have a way to go.
    there is a trend, as the article states, that the right parties in europe are remaking themselves.

    Agreed, see I do want Europe to be for Europeans. The Muzzies need to go.

    The fact is these parties are the only ones standing up for their culture, I support them.


  16. vagabond trader
    16 | January 18, 2011 11:58 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Can’t fault them for wanting to save their own butts.Too bad they let it go this far.


  17. Beeduwine
    17 | January 18, 2011 11:59 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Some – if not all – of these parties I would not label “right”. More like “populist” with some right-leaning policies.

    Which is smart if you want to attract single-issue voters.


  18. Poteen
    18 | January 18, 2011 12:00 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Brick wrote:
    Nothing wrong with a little nationalism, in moderation of course.

    sure, why cant the french be proud of things french. why hand over the country to the muzz?
    i am very very happy to see these right parties drop the anti-jewish/israel nonsense. they have realized that the jews are not the enemy. they are an ally against the muzz.

    I hope so. I can’t help drawing a parallel between the LePens and Robert Byrd. If they want to stay relevant in politics they have to at least give the appearance of ‘changing their mind’ on certain issues.


  19. coldwarrior
    19 | January 18, 2011 12:00 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Can’t fault them for wanting to save their own butts.Too bad they let it go this far.

    sometimes the situation has to get this dire for action to be taken.


  20. 20 | January 18, 2011 12:00 pm

    @ m:

    This is a way to set up Obama’s re-election. They will claim that this is the ebst we can do and we should be grateful. That’s why 2012 will be about his personality. I hope the GOP calls this bluff makes it about economic issues and not family values or abortion.


  21. eaglesoars
    21 | January 18, 2011 12:01 pm

    @ Rodan:

    The European Union needs to go.

    Well, the euro isn’t helping. But I think it’s crap like this that will finally bring it down.

    Dutch Deputy Foreign Minister Ben Knapen is demanding an explanation from the European Commission about a calendar for European schoolchildren which leaves out all of the Christian feast days. The feast days for other religions are included in the calendar

    While Christian holidays such as Christmas and Easter are missing from the calendar’s pages, days commemorating “Sikh Baisakhi-Day, the Jewish Yom Kippur holiday, the Muslim holiday Aid-el-Kebir,” remain in place,”


  22. vagabond trader
    22 | January 18, 2011 12:02 pm

    @ Rodan:

    We need to start hammering them on gas prices. I do not care who is actually responsible,its on the Zer0 watch.


  23. coldwarrior
    23 | January 18, 2011 12:02 pm

    Poteen wrote:

    I hope so. I can’t help drawing a parallel between the LePens and Robert Byrd. If they want to stay relevant in politics they have to at least give the appearance of ‘changing their mind’ on certain issues.

    marine was very clear in her position and actions.

    it does not appear that she is ‘her father’s daughter’ on running th FN. there was a fight between the traditionalist (like her dad) and her a reformer.

    the reformers won, now we need to see what they do with it.


  24. 24 | January 18, 2011 12:02 pm

    @ Poteen:

    This is his daughter, not him. I will support her since no one else wants to save France.

    Look there are some Israelis/Jews who hate Christinas and call us idolators. Does that make me stop supporting Israel? Nope I look at the big picture.


  25. 25 | January 18, 2011 12:03 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    We need to start hammering them on gas prices. I do not care who is actually responsible,its on the Zer0 watch.

    Funny, now that its Obama, the press is silent on gas prices rising. Interesting, isn’t it?


  26. 26 | January 18, 2011 12:04 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    See my 24, there are some Jews/Israelis who hate Christians, yet I still support Israel. I don’t let a few knuckleheads get in teh way of doing the right thing and seeing the big picture. The French are entitles to a homeland.


  27. coldwarrior
    27 | January 18, 2011 12:04 pm

    Beeduwine wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Some – if not all – of these parties I would not label “right”. More like “populist” with some right-leaning policies.
    Which is smart if you want to attract single-issue voters.

    they certainly arent on the left.


  28. vagabond trader
    28 | January 18, 2011 12:05 pm

    @ Rodan:

    call us idolators

    That sounds Protestant to me. :-)


  29. Brick
    29 | January 18, 2011 12:06 pm

    @ The Osprey:
    I thought it might have been a gun thread myself. :)


  30. m
    30 | January 18, 2011 12:07 pm

    via Iowahawk:

    Can’t we all just get along?


  31. huckfunn
    31 | January 18, 2011 12:07 pm

    m wrote:

    Why Jobs Haven’t Come Back
    Will high unemployment remain a constant feature of the new economy?

    Why it’s because
    some jobs aren’t needed
    Duuuuuh.

    Hey Iron Fist – BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

    This has got to be the kneeslapper of the day: Obama wants to shed rules that hurt job growth.
    BWAHAHAHA


  32. vagabond trader
    32 | January 18, 2011 12:07 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Of course they do,it supports his mythical green agenda.No big deal if more people lose jobs,can’t heat their homes or buy food.Uncle sugar to the rescue!


  33. coldwarrior
    33 | January 18, 2011 12:07 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    See my 24, there are some Jews/Israelis who hate Christians, yet I still support Israel. I don’t let a few knuckleheads get in teh way of doing the right thing and seeing the big picture. The French are entitles to a homeland.

    every side has some ass holes


  34. m
    34 | January 18, 2011 12:07 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Especially since family matters are none of their damn business.


  35. Beeduwine
    35 | January 18, 2011 12:08 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Take the Norwegian and Danish ones. They are perfectly fine with gubment health care, as an example. Hardly hard right.


  36. Brick
    36 | January 18, 2011 12:10 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:
    @ Rodan:
    We need to start hammering them on gas prices. I do not care who is actually responsible,its on the Zer0 watch.
    Funny, now that its Obama, the press is silent on gas prices rising. Interesting, isn’t it?

    Why shouldn’t they be mum? They’re making out like BIG DOGS! Here in Pa, they’re getting a vig of 50¢/gal on every gallon of gas sold and 63¢/gal for every gallon of diesel sold.

    Not bad work if you can get it.


  37. m
    37 | January 18, 2011 12:10 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Yeah riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight because he’s so worried about that! Good Lord.


  38. coldwarrior
    38 | January 18, 2011 12:11 pm

    Beeduwine wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Take the Norwegian and Danish ones. They are perfectly fine with gubment health care, as an example. Hardly hard right.

    like i said…not on the left.


  39. Brick
    39 | January 18, 2011 12:11 pm

    @ m:
    Excellent!


  40. coldwarrior
    40 | January 18, 2011 12:11 pm

    old man le pen—pre-vatican 2

    marine le pen—post vatican 2

    there is the difference


  41. song_and_dance_man
    41 | January 18, 2011 12:12 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    This has got to be the kneeslapper of the day: Obama wants to shed rules that hurt job growth.
    BWAHAHAHA

    Let me guess. It will come in the form of new regulation?


  42. Nevergiveup
    42 | January 18, 2011 12:12 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    there are some Jews/Israelis who hate Christians, yet I still support Israel.

    And whom are they? Do they identify as Jews or just Liberals who happen to be jewish?


  43. huckfunn
    43 | January 18, 2011 12:13 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    This has got to be the kneeslapper of the day: Obama wants to shed rules that hurt job growth.
    BWAHAHAHA

    Let me guess. It will come in the form of new regulation?

    Something like the Paper Reduction Act which, in fact, had something like 50,000 pages. :roll:


  44. Beeduwine
    44 | January 18, 2011 12:16 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Fiscally center, socially authoritarian.

    My final offer.


  45. Brick
    45 | January 18, 2011 12:18 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    song_and_dance_man wrote:
    huckfunn wrote:
    This has got to be the kneeslapper of the day: Obama wants to shed rules that hurt job growth.
    BWAHAHAHA
    Let me guess. It will come in the form of new regulation?

    Something like the Paper Reduction Act which, in fact, had something like 50,000 pages.

    ….printed on BOTH sides of the page resulting in a net savings of….50,000 pages! This green/saving stuff is easy peasy!


  46. Prebanned
    46 | January 18, 2011 12:19 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    song_and_dance_man wrote:
    huckfunn wrote:
    This has got to be the kneeslapper of the day: Obama wants to shed rules that hurt job growth.
    BWAHAHAHA
    Let me guess. It will come in the form of new regulation?
    Something like the Paper Reduction Act which, in fact, had something like 50,000 pages.

    This is awesome news, it means that all we lack is getting the Senate on board to repeal Obamacare.


  47. song_and_dance_man
    47 | January 18, 2011 12:21 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Something like the Paper Reduction Act which, in fact, had something like 50,000 pages.

    Of course. The unspoken Left mantra is ‘let’s make it bigger!’


  48. coldwarrior
    48 | January 18, 2011 12:21 pm

    Beeduwine wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Fiscally center, socially authoritarian.
    My final offer.

    still to the right of the left wing parties while most of the political spectrum of europe lies to the left of the spectrum in the US…


  49. song_and_dance_man
    49 | January 18, 2011 12:23 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    This is awesome news, it means that all we lack is getting the Senate on board to repeal Obamacare.

    I’m certain that was not in Obama’s prepper’s minds.


  50. 50 | January 18, 2011 12:25 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    These jerks.

    They are just a fringe and that’s my point. I don’t let the lunatic fringe determine my support for a people or a movement in whole.


  51. Beeduwine
    51 | January 18, 2011 12:26 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Beeduwine wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Fiscally center, socially authoritarian.
    My final offer.

    still to the right of the left wing parties while most of the political spectrum of europe lies to the left of the spectrum in the US…

    We have reached consensus. The strong kind that leaves you yearning for a cigarette.


  52. song_and_dance_man
    52 | January 18, 2011 12:26 pm

    and end single-sex swimming sessions in public swimming pools for Muslim women.

    They go swimming?


  53. coldwarrior
    53 | January 18, 2011 12:28 pm

    Beeduwine wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Beeduwine wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    Fiscally center, socially authoritarian.
    My final offer.
    still to the right of the left wing parties while most of the political spectrum of europe lies to the left of the spectrum in the US…

    We have reached consensus. The strong kind that leaves you yearning for a cigarette.

    :lol:


  54. m
    54 | January 18, 2011 12:28 pm

    Huffpo comment of the day, WOW

    karim banned (with 68 fans)

    Also Iran has no reason to hate Jews or even the idea of a country for Jews.

    Remember Cyrus the great. He was freed Jews from slavery and even had rebuild the second Solomon temple for them

    It is not about Jews rights to have a country. The question is why Muslims or Iranians should pay with their blood when they have historically speaking always been nice to the Jews.

    The point is these freaks (Zionists) have taken Iran and the rest of the world hostage to their irrational childish behaviour. And Iran hates this irrational behaviour.

    Americans should also hate this irrational behaviour if they knew how much it has costed them.

    That kind of concentrated stupid has to be a lizard cheating on cj with zsa zsa huffpo.


  55. huckfunn
    55 | January 18, 2011 12:28 pm

    Brick wrote:

    ….printed on BOTH sides of the page resulting in a net savings of….50,000 pages! This green/saving stuff is easy peasy!

    And think of all the jobs created or saved.


  56. 56 | January 18, 2011 12:30 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    m wrote:
    Why Jobs Haven’t Come Back
    Will high unemployment remain a constant feature of the new economy?
    Why it’s because
    some jobs aren’t needed
    Duuuuuh.
    Hey Iron Fist – BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

    This has got to be the kneeslapper of the day: Obama wants to shed rules that hurt job growth.
    BWAHAHAHA

    Like the EPA revoking W VA coal mining permits? I’m sure that isnt hurting job growth at all…


  57. Brick
    57 | January 18, 2011 12:31 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    and end single-sex swimming sessions in public swimming pools for Muslim women.
    They go swimming?

    Sure! I think most of them are big watersports fans. Don’t you remember not so long ago all the talk about Muslims and waterboarding?


  58. song_and_dance_man
    58 | January 18, 2011 12:32 pm

    he said Sunday that in 2011, his daughter is more “in tune with the times.”

    More make-up, please!


  59. Prebanned
    59 | January 18, 2011 12:33 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    You are such a dad gum pessamist, how sad ™.
    I feel sorry for you. ™//


  60. huckfunn
    60 | January 18, 2011 12:33 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Like the EPA revoking W VA coal mining permits? I’m sure that isnt hurting job growth at all…

    I was just thinking about that, as well as the EPA taking over the permitting of the oil & gas industry in Texas, and on and on, etc…


  61. 61 | January 18, 2011 12:34 pm

    m wrote:

    Huffpo comment of the day, WOW
    karim banned (with 68 fans)
    Also Iran has no reason to hate Jews or even the idea of a country for Jews.
    Remember Cyrus the great. He was freed Jews from slavery and even had rebuild the second Solomon temple for them
    It is not about Jews rights to have a country. The question is why Muslims or Iranians should pay with their blood when they have historically speaking always been nice to the Jews.
    The point is these freaks (Zionists) have taken Iran and the rest of the world hostage to their irrational childish behaviour. And Iran hates this irrational behaviour.
    Americans should also hate this irrational behaviour if they knew how much it has costed them.
    That kind of concentrated stupid has to be a lizard cheating on cj with zsa zsa huffpo.

    Wow, talk about super duper industrial strength stupid, someone ought to submit that to the Onion as a satire script… :shock:


  62. Nevergiveup
    62 | January 18, 2011 12:34 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    These jerks.

    They are just a fringe and that’s my point. I don’t let the lunatic fringe determine my support for a people or a movement in whole.

    Ugh they are not only a fringe, but your misconstruing what they are doing. They spit at ME also. As a matter of fact they probably hate us secular Jews more than you “Christians”. They hate anyone who does not subscribe to their view of what G-D wants. It has next to nothing to do with Jew vs Christian but mostly with them vs everyone else Jew, Christian or what ever.


  63. Prebanned
    63 | January 18, 2011 12:34 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    The Great Leap backwards continues.


  64. Brick
    64 | January 18, 2011 12:35 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    Just don’t call them job-killing restrictions.


  65. song_and_dance_man
    65 | January 18, 2011 12:35 pm

    Brick wrote:

    Sure! I think most of them are big watersports fans. Don’t you remember not so long ago all the talk about Muslims and waterboarding?

    Ah yes. I forgot about the burkina contests.


  66. huckfunn
    66 | January 18, 2011 12:37 pm

    Brick wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    Just don’t call them job-killing restrictions.

    Someone, somewhere is just now drafting a regulation against using the phrase “job-killing”.


  67. song_and_dance_man
    67 | January 18, 2011 12:38 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    They are just a fringe and that’s my point. I don’t let the lunatic fringe determine my support for a people or a movement in whole.

    Exactly. There are nuts in every corner. The ‘god hates fags’ crowd comes immediately to mind.


  68. Beeduwine
    68 | January 18, 2011 12:38 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    and end single-sex swimming sessions in public swimming pools for Muslim women.

    They go swimming?

    Only if properly covered up. And not with men. Which results in most/many muslim girls growing up in Scandinavia today never attending swim class in school and therefore never learn to swim.


  69. Brick
    69 | January 18, 2011 12:38 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    Usually sandwiched between the prettiest goat, and prettiest camel contests.


  70. song_and_dance_man
    70 | January 18, 2011 12:39 pm

    @ Prebanned:

    It’s hard to maintain sweetness and light 24/7.

    /


  71. 71 | January 18, 2011 12:43 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    The Great Leap backwards continues.

    Sadly Obama’s idea’s are far closer to jumping off a 100 foot tall tower with a 150 foot long bungee cord.


  72. snowcrash
    72 | January 18, 2011 12:45 pm

    I do not think there is anything wrong with some nationalism. There is a need to overcome political correctness and publicly state what the cultural mores are to help new immigrants assimilate. I would hope assimilation is the goal and not how France handled the Gypsies. Nothing left to do but watch how the FN comports itself over the next few years.


  73. Beeduwine
    73 | January 18, 2011 12:47 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    Hi Snow! Agreed.


  74. song_and_dance_man
    74 | January 18, 2011 12:49 pm

    Anyway, back to the Entry.

    It’s groovy the NF is getting a face-lift, and their stance against the ‘special rights’ Muslims demand is encouraging. However, will it lead to squelching the opposition in a demonstrably way? The muslims have no interest in assimilation, and changing that will be the real test for the NF.


  75. song_and_dance_man
    75 | January 18, 2011 12:50 pm

    The clash of Civilizations continues.


  76. snowcrash
    76 | January 18, 2011 12:51 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    Hey beed. EU membership complicates things. LOL. The French need to have more babies, they are breeding themselves out of existence. The Italians are too.


  77. song_and_dance_man
    77 | January 18, 2011 12:53 pm

    Brick wrote:

    Usually sandwiched between the prettiest goat, and prettiest camel contests.

    Er… that would be the men.


  78. Beeduwine
    78 | January 18, 2011 12:53 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    And the Spanish and the Russians and…


  79. vagabond trader
    79 | January 18, 2011 12:54 pm

    Their own people


  80. huckfunn
    80 | January 18, 2011 12:55 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ Beeduwine:
    Hey beed. EU membership complicates things. LOL. The French need to have more babies, they are breeding themselves out of existence. The Italians are too.

    Meanwhile, the Brits are breeding themselves into Britainistan.
    Mohammed is now the most popular name for baby boys ahead of Jack and Harry


  81. 81 | January 18, 2011 12:56 pm

    ROTFLMAO…

    Semen allergy suspected in rare post-orgasm illness

    When evolution tells you, “It’s time to get out of the Gene pool”…


  82. song_and_dance_man
    82 | January 18, 2011 12:56 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    I do not think there is anything wrong with some nationalism. There is a need to overcome political correctness and publicly state what the cultural mores are to help new immigrants assimilate. I would hope assimilation is the goal and not how France handled the Gypsies. Nothing left to do but watch how the FN comports itself over the next few years.

    I + ding thee thrice.


  83. 83 | January 18, 2011 12:56 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Fact is they are spitting at Christians and hate us. They hate secular Jews as well, but the point is they hate Christians. Also, elements of the Israeli press are anti-Catholic and take a statement by some Opus Dei loon or some Bishop who’s church is in communion with Rome as proof the Catholic Church is anti-semitic. Meanwhile comments by the Pope in support of Israel/Jews is not highlighted or ignored. Then the BS conspiracies of Pope Pious being Hitler’s pope is also accepted as fact, when it was a lie invented by the Kremlin.

    My point is that there are Jews who hate Christians, just like there are Christians who hate Jews. There are always haters in any camp and that should not lead to dislinking the camp as a whole. That was what I was saying.


  84. 84 | January 18, 2011 12:57 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    Phelps is a dispicable asshole. Buzzsaw is right, I think its a Soros false flag.


  85. vagabond trader
  86. Beeduwine
    86 | January 18, 2011 12:59 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    “Womens lib”, abortion rights, irresponsible men and selfish materialism is a deadly cocktail for civilization.


  87. song_and_dance_man
    87 | January 18, 2011 12:59 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    When evolution tells you, “It’s time to get out of the Gene pool”…

    And pull the plug on the net.


  88. huckfunn
    88 | January 18, 2011 12:59 pm

    Haitian police take Baby Doc out of his hotel. Something about a few $Billion gone missing for 25 years? Time to pay the bill.


  89. Beeduwine
    89 | January 18, 2011 1:01 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    ROTFLMAO…

    Semen allergy suspected in rare post-orgasm illness

    When evolution tells you, “It’s time to get out of the Gene pool”…

    Heh!


  90. Bureaucat
    90 | January 18, 2011 1:02 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    The European Union needs to go.
    Well, the euro isn’t helping. But I think it’s crap like this that will finally bring it down.
    Dutch Deputy Foreign Minister Ben Knapen is demanding an explanation from the European Commission about a calendar for European schoolchildren which leaves out all of the Christian feast days. The feast days for other religions are included in the calendar
    While Christian holidays such as Christmas and Easter are missing from the calendar’s pages, days commemorating “Sikh Baisakhi-Day, the Jewish Yom Kippur holiday, the Muslim holiday Aid-el-Kebir,” remain in place,”

    They were just checking to see if there were any Christians left in Europe.


  91. Nevergiveup
    91 | January 18, 2011 1:02 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Fact is they are spitting at Christians and hate us. They hate secular Jews as well, but the point is they hate Christians. Also, elements of the Israeli press are anti-Catholic and take a statement by some Opus Dei loon or some Bishop who’s church is in communion with Rome as proof the Catholic Church is anti-semitic. Meanwhile comments by the Pope in support of Israel/Jews is not highlighted or ignored. Then the BS conspiracies of Pope Pious being Hitler’s pope is also accepted as fact, when it was a lie invented by the Kremlin.

    My point is that there are Jews who hate Christians, just like there are Christians who hate Jews. There are always haters in any camp and that should not lead to dislinking the camp as a whole. That was what I was saying.

    A) that fringe group hates everyone who is not them. It has nothing to do with you being Christian.
    B) the history of the Catholic Church and Jews is long and complicated
    C) Many of us think Pope Pius was a tad to quite during the Holocaust, but so was most of the Western World including the USA and Roosevelt, so I don’t, nor do most, lay the blame at the Pope’s feet.


  92. 92 | January 18, 2011 1:02 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    Phelps is a dispicable asshole. Buzzsaw is right, I think its a Soros false flag.

    I dont believe Phelps is a Soro’s false flag, I believe Phelps is genuinely sincere in what he believes and does what he does irrespective of Soro’s. That said however, I also believe that Soro’s probably is providing funding for Phelps because it helps Soro’s advance his agenda. In other words, Phelps is a perfect useful idiot for Soro’s.


  93. Brick
    93 | January 18, 2011 1:03 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Brick wrote:
    Usually sandwiched between the prettiest goat, and prettiest camel contests.
    Er… that would be the men.

    Touché.


  94. m
    94 | January 18, 2011 1:04 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Seriously. Dude is like an anti-semitic Ludwigged.


  95. snowcrash
    95 | January 18, 2011 1:05 pm

    @ Beeduwine:
    Well, I prefer to call it better education, increased urbanization, the empowerment of women and the growth of non traditional family units blah blah blah…it’s the same thing you said but prettier IMO.


  96. vagabond trader
    96 | January 18, 2011 1:05 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    After reading about this abusive dysfunctional family I tend to agree. That is one fugged up crew and mislabeled as a church,more like a small inbred cult.


  97. 97 | January 18, 2011 1:05 pm

    m wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Seriously. Dude is like an anti-semitic Ludwigged.

    BTW, love your new avatar, is that a photoshop, or a fancy contact lens?


  98. Nevergiveup
    98 | January 18, 2011 1:05 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Haitian police take Baby Doc out of his hotel. Something about a few $Billion gone missing for 25 years? Time to pay the bill.

    Something weird about this story. I just don’t see him coming voluntarily back to be arrested? We are missing something here.


  99. song_and_dance_man
    99 | January 18, 2011 1:07 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Not in Soro’s pocket, just a nut hinged on some tenet he thinks is all important.


  100. vagabond trader
    100 | January 18, 2011 1:09 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    We are missing something here

    Something like our money or your life?


  101. snowcrash
    101 | January 18, 2011 1:09 pm

    @ vagabond trader:
    Small inbred religious cult describes them well.


  102. song_and_dance_man
    102 | January 18, 2011 1:09 pm

    Bureaucat wrote:

    They were just checking to see if there were any Christians left in Europe.

    Smoking out the riff-raff?


  103. Brick
    103 | January 18, 2011 1:10 pm

    Another faux Palin convert.

    What is it with…”I hope she runs, but she’ll probably lose” and “Obama will likely be re-elected” crap? What? Are you kidding me?

    Instead of “Are you better off than you were 4 years ago? Vote for Zero.” It’ll be…..”If you can find or, think you may know someone better off than they were 4 years ago – vote for Zero.”

    Stop dividing by Zero.


  104. huckfunn
    104 | January 18, 2011 1:10 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    Haitian police take Baby Doc out of his hotel. Something about a few $Billion gone missing for 25 years? Time to pay the bill.

    Something weird about this story. I just don’t see him coming voluntarily back to be arrested? We are missing something here.

    Maybe the Haitian cops see some easy dough. For a few grand he can probably be on the first plane back to Fwance.


  105. Beeduwine
    105 | January 18, 2011 1:10 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    Heh. Yes. But basically, it is the old “don’t walk on the grass”-analogy: It’s all good if only a few people picnic there onceinawhile, the grass will still be green, but if everybody starts doing it, there will be no more grass to speak of.


  106. m
    106 | January 18, 2011 1:10 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Thanks! I’m pretty sure it’s photoshop but it isn’t really my eyeball in any case.

    ~:)

    I have blue eyes but not blue skin! LOL!


  107. Bureaucat
    107 | January 18, 2011 1:11 pm

    @ m:
    Rational = Tearing down irrigation pipes and turning them into rockets to fire into civillian areas.
    Irrational = Self Preservation

    Gotcha!


  108. Beeduwine
    108 | January 18, 2011 1:12 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    m wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Seriously. Dude is like an anti-semitic Ludwigged.

    BTW, love your new avatar, is that a photoshop, or a fancy contact lens?

    That eye is intoxicating.


  109. coldwarrior
    109 | January 18, 2011 1:13 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    something fishy is going on here….


  110. vagabond trader
    110 | January 18, 2011 1:13 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    Should have said pseudo religious cult,unlike any Christians I’ve ever known.


  111. Nevergiveup
    111 | January 18, 2011 1:13 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    Haitian police take Baby Doc out of his hotel. Something about a few $Billion gone missing for 25 years? Time to pay the bill.

    Something weird about this story. I just don’t see him coming voluntarily back to be arrested? We are missing something here.

    Maybe the Haitian cops see some easy dough. For a few grand he can probably be on the first plane back to Fwance.

    Na i think somethings up. Maybe he thinks he can retake power or he was lured back with the promise he can retake power and they are screwing him now/


  112. 112 | January 18, 2011 1:13 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    After reading about this abusive dysfunctional family I tend to agree. That is one fugged up crew and mislabeled as a church,more like a small inbred cult.

    Yup, if it were purely a Soro’s funded false flag operation their would be evidence indicating that it is a purely political operation by now. The only evidence to come to light about the Phelps family to date, and they have been up to this shit for what 30 years now? Is that they are a genuinely psychologically fucked up group. Their beliefs are 100 percent the stuff rabid insane cults are made of.

    These people arent simply about damaging conservative Christian social and political standings, they are genuine true believers in the crap they spew. If this were purely a political false flag operation somebody would have defected by now over internal conflicts or money and spilled the beans, but that hasn’t happened.


  113. Bureaucat
    113 | January 18, 2011 1:15 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Mohammed is now the most popular name for baby boys ahead of Jack and Harry

    In the American corner is the current heavyweight of the breeding world “Hey-zooooos” and in the Eurasian corner is the challenger from the desert “Moe- Ham- Ed! Let’s get ready to ruuuuumble!!


  114. 114 | January 18, 2011 1:16 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ snowcrash:
    Should have said pseudo religious cult,unlike any Christians I’ve ever known.

    Oh, I dont think there is any pseudo about them, they are the real deal in cult land, Jim Jones or Marshal Applegate without the suicide Kool-aid.


  115. m
    115 | January 18, 2011 1:16 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Well, besides the whole democratic fundraiser in the 80s/90s thing.


  116. coldwarrior
    116 | January 18, 2011 1:17 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    or he’s hoping for a ‘popular uprising’


  117. Bureaucat
    117 | January 18, 2011 1:17 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    You aren’t doing it right if you get it all over yourself.


  118. huckfunn
    118 | January 18, 2011 1:18 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    It will come down to lawyers, guns and money.


  119. 119 | January 18, 2011 1:19 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    A) that fringe group hates everyone who is not them. It has nothing to do with you being Christian.
    B) the history of the Catholic Church and Jews is long and complicated
    C) Many of us think Pope Pius was a tad to quite during the Holocaust, but so was most of the Western World including the USA and Roosevelt, so I don’t, nor do most, lay the blame at the Pope’s feet.

    I agree 100%! The Pope and others not speaking out is a black mark on all of the Westen World!

    I nominate you for the BCGG award!

    Cold,
    DO the honors!


  120. Bureaucat
    120 | January 18, 2011 1:20 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:
    Haitian police take Baby Doc out of his hotel. Something about a few $Billion gone missing for 25 years? Time to pay the bill.
    Something weird about this story. I just don’t see him coming voluntarily back to be arrested? We are missing something here.

    Duped by that free vacation in the Bahamas advertisement.


  121. 121 | January 18, 2011 1:21 pm

    Bureaucat wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    You aren’t doing it right if you get it all over yourself.

    Talk about hating oneself to a whole new level… :shock: When your own DNA Matrix sends you into anaphylactic shock it’s kind of like the ultimate Darwin Awards moment…


  122. vagabond trader
    122 | January 18, 2011 1:23 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Pseudo Christian is more apt. Anyway,there have been defectors,and this causes me to believe they are isolated nuts,although they have a history with and are used by the left who love to hate on Christians.


  123. Bureaucat
    123 | January 18, 2011 1:24 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Bureaucat wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    You aren’t doing it right if you get it all over yourself.
    Talk about hating oneself to a whole new level… When your own DNA Matrix sends you into anaphylactic shock it’s kind of like the ultimate Darwin Awards moment…

    I don’t think they did enough correlation studies. Did anyone bother to see if the victims had eaten asparagus prior to copulation?


  124. song_and_dance_man
    124 | January 18, 2011 1:24 pm

    @ Brick:

    Heh. Leading up to that is the overly apparent face-lift they, them, employ.

    I don’t mean to engage in derogatory language in a rather sensitive area, but the rally in Tucson is a case in point. We saw both Napolitano and Holder cite scripture exclusively in what they had to say as a lead-in to what Bumssiah had to say. Now, I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment, but am suspicious as to the motivation.

    To me, it was transparent what they engaged in; just another opportunity to fool the ignorant.

    I must say in addition to that, that it is not our job to judge others as to their spirituality, but the record of where they stand, stands as well, despite their words. Ones actions are open to judgment.


  125. Nevergiveup
    125 | January 18, 2011 1:25 pm

    Bureaucat wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:
    Haitian police take Baby Doc out of his hotel. Something about a few $Billion gone missing for 25 years? Time to pay the bill.
    Something weird about this story. I just don’t see him coming voluntarily back to be arrested? We are missing something here.

    Duped by that free vacation in the Bahamas advertisement.

    Good one


  126. song_and_dance_man
    126 | January 18, 2011 1:25 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Na i think somethings up. Maybe he thinks he can retake power or he was lured back with the promise he can retake power and they are screwing him now/

    I hope the latter is the case.


  127. song_and_dance_man
    127 | January 18, 2011 1:29 pm

    Bureaucat wrote:

    You aren’t doing it right if you get it all over yourself.

    Barney Frank could not be reached for comment.


  128. song_and_dance_man
    128 | January 18, 2011 1:32 pm

    Every one on the whole dang planet has a hater somewhere, sometime.


  129. Bureaucat
    129 | January 18, 2011 1:34 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Every one on the whole dang planet has a hater somewhere, sometime.

    Emo kids hate themselves.


  130. Nevergiveup
    130 | January 18, 2011 1:34 pm

    Palestinian U.S. mission raises flag in Washington for first time
    PLO U.S. envoy calls flag raising ‘historic’ and says he hopes it will help Palestinian quest to win support for independence

    NOBODY is saying who actually authorized this? State? Obama? Someone had to?


  131. m
    131 | January 18, 2011 1:34 pm

    Ew.


  132. 132 | January 18, 2011 1:35 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Bureaucat wrote:
    Nevergiveup wrote:
    huckfunn wrote:
    Haitian police take Baby Doc out of his hotel. Something about a few $Billion gone missing for 25 years? Time to pay the bill.
    Something weird about this story. I just don’t see him coming voluntarily back to be arrested? We are missing something here.
    Duped by that free vacation in the Bahamas advertisement.

    Good one

    heh heh heh, like the police sting where they send people with outstanding warrants official looking notifications that they have won some really cool and expensive prize, and when the perp shows up the prize turns out to be a brand new shiny set of bracelets and an all expense paid vacation in the local hoosegow.


  133. song_and_dance_man
    133 | January 18, 2011 1:37 pm

    @ m:

    When you gotta go, you gotta go.

    /


  134. snowcrash
    134 | January 18, 2011 1:37 pm

    @ m:
    That’s prize winning?


  135. m
    135 | January 18, 2011 1:38 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    Amazing innit?


  136. vagabond trader
    136 | January 18, 2011 1:39 pm

    @ m:

    A squatting woman in a proper burka being stoned to death would be more timely if shock value was the leading criteria.


  137. 137 | January 18, 2011 1:40 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ m:
    When you gotta go, you gotta go.
    /

    Unless of course you are a German Female Police Officer… :shock: Nature never calls on them at inopportune moments… :lol: :lol: :lol:


  138. Bureaucat
    138 | January 18, 2011 1:40 pm

    ‘Petra’ is not a provocation,” she said. “It is an observation of society.”

    1. The title Petra is accidently clever if you have ever used the expresson “peeing on a rock”.

    2. I don’t see how this is an “observation of society” unless German police women in riot gear have a habit of urinating in public.

    3. Someone got paid for this.


  139. Bureaucat
    139 | January 18, 2011 1:41 pm

    …the above was not a list of reasons supporting the “artist”.


  140. snowcrash
    140 | January 18, 2011 1:41 pm

    @ m:
    Could have sworn all the variations of “piss art” lol have been done. Never considered any excrement, of any form, to be art. I’m not sophisticated enough to appreciate it.


  141. song_and_dance_man
    141 | January 18, 2011 1:42 pm

    Bureaucat wrote:

    Emo kids hate themselves.

    Can we call it emo-te?

    /wait…allow me…groan


  142. m
    142 | January 18, 2011 1:42 pm

    Racial Hatred Trial: Youtube Man Calls it “Kangaroo Court”

    Dude didn’t realize only pious muslims get away with the nastiness and hate oozing from their lips. If they applied this law equally they’d have to have whack-an-imam(or four) day every day to clean up the crazy.


  143. 143 | January 18, 2011 1:43 pm

    Bureaucat wrote:

    ‘Petra’ is not a provocation,” she said. “It is an observation of society.”
    1. The title Petra is accidently clever if you have ever used the expresson “peeing on a rock”.
    2. I don’t see how this is an “observation of society” unless German police women in riot gear have a habit of urinating in public.
    3. Someone got paid for this.

    Personally I think it is funny and goes a long way to humanize German Female Police Officers. Come on, be honest, who hasn’t found themselves in dire need of pee’ing at a very inopportune time at least once in their lives?


  144. Bureaucat
    144 | January 18, 2011 1:43 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ m:
    Could have sworn all the variations of “piss art” lol have been done. Never considered any excrement, of any form, to be art. I’m not sophisticated enough to appreciate it.

    So you have more of a dry sense of humor?


  145. m
    145 | January 18, 2011 1:43 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    Yeop. Wimps.


  146. Bureaucat
    146 | January 18, 2011 1:44 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    Well played. :-D


  147. song_and_dance_man
    147 | January 18, 2011 1:44 pm

    @ Bureaucat:

    I don’t get the title. Petra is greek for rock.


  148. Bureaucat
    148 | January 18, 2011 1:46 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Come on, be honest, who hasn’t found themselves in dire need of pee’ing at a very inopportune time at least once in their lives?

    I’m a guy. No time is inopportune for peeing.

    Pass the cup please.


  149. Alberta Oil Peon
    149 | January 18, 2011 1:46 pm

    Beeduwine wrote:

    song_and_dance_man wrote:
    and end single-sex swimming sessions in public swimming pools for Muslim women.
    They go swimming?

    Only if properly covered up. And not with men. Which results in most/many muslim girls growing up in Scandinavia today never attending swim class in school and therefore never learn to swim.

    And that is a problem, why?


  150. Brick
    150 | January 18, 2011 1:46 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ m:
    Could have sworn all the variations of “piss art” lol have been done. Never considered any excrement, of any form, to be art. I’m not sophisticated enough to appreciate it.

    I consider much of what passes as “art” to be excrement.


  151. snowcrash
    151 | January 18, 2011 1:46 pm

    BBL, gators. Dry humor indeed. Lol


  152. m
    152 | January 18, 2011 1:47 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Never thought of it as ART tho!

    /except mebbe doing it drunk and not splashing those fanTAStic boots with wizz ~:) THAT would be an art form.


  153. m
    153 | January 18, 2011 1:48 pm

    @ Brick:

    UPding.


  154. 154 | January 18, 2011 1:50 pm

    m wrote:

    Racial Hatred Trial: Youtube Man Calls it “Kangaroo Court”
    Dude didn’t realize only pious muslims get away with the nastiness and hate oozing from their lips. If they applied this law equally they’d have to have whack-an-imam(or four) day every day to clean up the crazy.

    Heh heh heh….

    Comments Posted:
    Wait for it… Date: 2011-01-18 11:48:42
    By: doriangrey
    This ruling to be applied to Islamic Immans in 3…2…1… Oop’s, not enough testicular fortitude in all of Australia for that to ever happen.


  155. Bureaucat
    155 | January 18, 2011 1:50 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    Beeduwine wrote:
    song_and_dance_man wrote:
    and end single-sex swimming sessions in public swimming pools for Muslim women.
    They go swimming?
    Only if properly covered up. And not with men. Which results in most/many muslim girls growing up in Scandinavia today never attending swim class in school and therefore never learn to swim.
    And that is a problem, why?

    Global warming = rising sea levels = drowning Muslimas = genocide by soccer moms driving SUVs.


  156. 156 | January 18, 2011 1:51 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ Bureaucat:
    I don’t get the title. Petra is greek for rock.

    I’m pretty sure it’s also a rather common girls name in Germany.


  157. song_and_dance_man
    157 | January 18, 2011 1:51 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    It’s much easier for men.


  158. Bureaucat
    158 | January 18, 2011 1:52 pm

    Brick wrote:

    I consider much of what passes as “art” to be excrement.

    If it ain’t art it aint S#!+


  159. 160 | January 18, 2011 1:52 pm

    Bureaucat wrote:

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
    Beeduwine wrote:
    song_and_dance_man wrote:
    and end single-sex swimming sessions in public swimming pools for Muslim women.
    They go swimming?
    Only if properly covered up. And not with men. Which results in most/many muslim girls growing up in Scandinavia today never attending swim class in school and therefore never learn to swim.
    And that is a problem, why?
    Global warming = rising sea levels = drowning Muslimas = genocide by soccer moms driving SUVs.

    ROTFLMAO… Time to get more soccer moms in SUV’s then aint it…


  160. Brick
    161 | January 18, 2011 1:55 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    I didn’t know Jews were a race.

    I also didn’t know, that Israeli fruit down under was such a hot-button issue.

    Glad I have the Innernets to keep up on my learnin’.


  161. song_and_dance_man
    162 | January 18, 2011 1:57 pm

    Brick wrote:

    I didn’t know Jews were a race.

    Not as a noun.


  162. vagabond trader
    163 | January 18, 2011 1:58 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    All the dope has to do is yodel the shahada and he can post whatever he wants.


  163. refugee000
    164 | January 18, 2011 1:58 pm

    10 cyber bucks says al-chuki is not carrying the story.

    “James Eric Fuller, 63, who was shot in the knee, had told The Post on Friday, the day before his arrest, that top Republican figures should be tortured — and their ears severed.

    There would be torture and then an ear necklace, with [Minnesota US Rep.] Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin’s ears toward the end, because they’re small, female ears, and then Limbaugh, Hannity and the biggest ears of all, Cheney’s, in the center,” Fuller said.”
    http://nation.foxnews.com/arizona-shooting-rampage/2011/01/18/tucson-shooting-victim-there-would-be-torture-and-then-ear-neckl


  164. Nevergiveup
    165 | January 18, 2011 1:59 pm

    @ refugee000:
    That would be a safe bet I am sure


  165. 166 | January 18, 2011 1:59 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    It’s much easier for men.

    I used to think that, then all sorts of pic’s started showing up on the intertubes showing women pee’ing in public just like men, then to make matters even worse, my brother and I were laughing our asses off to one of those pictures on his phone, when his wives sister saw what we were laughing at and gave us the scrunched up nose look (which implied, are you guys really that stupid) and said, what? You think we only have to pee when it’s convenient?


  166. m
    167 | January 18, 2011 2:00 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    LOL! High5


  167. song_and_dance_man
    168 | January 18, 2011 2:00 pm

    refugee000 wrote:

    10 cyber bucks says al-chuki is not carrying the story.

    He deals in carbon credits and windmill futures when his Beg Machine isn’t padding his man purse.


  168. vagabond trader
    169 | January 18, 2011 2:01 pm

    @ refugee000:

    Sounds like Fuller has Nam fantasies. Supposedly he has since apologized for the outbursts. I’d like to read his psych evaluation.


  169. Nevergiveup
    170 | January 18, 2011 2:01 pm

    @ refugee000:
    Well we were wrong. He did mention it, but only that the guy apologized so all is well in the world again and only the right wing is crazy?


  170. Alberta Oil Peon
    171 | January 18, 2011 2:02 pm

    @ Bureaucat:

    Gotta get my eyes checked. I still fail to see a problem.


  171. 172 | January 18, 2011 2:04 pm

    m wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    LOL! High5

    Heh heh heh…


  172. song_and_dance_man
    173 | January 18, 2011 2:05 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    then all sorts of pic’s started showing up on the intertubes showing women pee’ing in public just like men

    Just like men? ;-)

    /


  173. refugee000
    174 | January 18, 2011 2:05 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Just looked. He’s not carrying the “ear necklace” story.


  174. song_and_dance_man
    175 | January 18, 2011 2:07 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Well we were wrong. He did mention it, but only that the guy apologized so all is well in the world again and only the right wing is crazy?

    It must be easy to hide on a slippery slope.


  175. lobo91
    176 | January 18, 2011 2:07 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    @ refugee000:
    Well we were wrong. He did mention it, but only that the guy apologized so all is well in the world again and only the right wing is crazy?

    From that thread:

    3 jamesfirecat
    Mon, Jan 17, 2011 7:02:18pm replyquote 24downupreport

    Note to Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck Rush Limbaugh et all: THIS IS HOW YOU F***ING APOLOGIZE!


  176. Brick
    177 | January 18, 2011 2:08 pm

    @ refugee000:
    How do you accessorize an ear necklace? I mean really. You’re planning a special night out, a candle-lit dinner, some wine, and there you are standing in front of the mirror….

    ::Holding necklaces side-by-side::
    “Do I go with the gold Mr. T Mercedes Medallion on the big gold rope? Or, do I go conservative with my ear necklace?”

    What a dope.


  177. song_and_dance_man
    178 | January 18, 2011 2:09 pm

    @ lobo91:

    There is anger in that one. I can feel it.


  178. 179 | January 18, 2011 2:10 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    then all sorts of pic’s started showing up on the intertubes showing women pee’ing in public just like men
    Just like men?
    /

    Yes, spray and pray…. :razz:


  179. 180 | January 18, 2011 2:10 pm

    [...] Posted by avideditor on January 18, 2011 I am very skeptical of there change. The apple usually does not fall far from the tree. Her father was despicable, just happy she sounds better. From Rebranding Le Front National [...]


  180. 181 | January 18, 2011 2:15 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:
    @ refugee000:
    Well we were wrong. He did mention it, but only that the guy apologized so all is well in the world again and only the right wing is crazy?
    From that thread:
    3 jamesfirecat
    Mon, Jan 17, 2011 7:02:18pm replyquote 24downupreport
    Note to Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck Rush Limbaugh et all: THIS IS HOW YOU F***ING APOLOGIZE!

    Yes, Sarah, Glen and Rush need to apologize for not having been responsible for this tragedy and not allowing the Liberal Marxist Left to blood libel them for something they played absolutely no role in, in furtherance of the Liberal Marxist Left’s political agenda.

    Hey jamesfirecat, I demand you apologize right now for killing those 3000 American’s who died on 9/11/01.


  181. lobo91
    182 | January 18, 2011 2:15 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    If you want to read some funny stuff, that thread turns into their version of a “gun thread” further on.

    It’s pretty amusing to see them arguing over which cut-and-pasted definition of “automatic weapon” is correct, considering the likelihood that none of them has ever actually seen one outside of a movie…


  182. vagabond trader
    183 | January 18, 2011 2:20 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Come on lobo,you know you’re itching to go over there and edumacate em! ;-)


  183. lobo91
    184 | January 18, 2011 2:23 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Come on lobo,you know you’re itching to go over there and edumacate em!

    Only if they pay me my usual fee…


  184. song_and_dance_man
    185 | January 18, 2011 2:23 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Thank you, but no. I’ve had enough of that nonsense.


  185. vagabond trader
    186 | January 18, 2011 2:46 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That settles that since most cannot even come up with the “scratch” to do the ad block subscription thang. :-)


  186. lobo91
    187 | January 18, 2011 2:50 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    That settles that since most cannot even come up with the “scratch” to do the ad block subscription thang.

    They’ll just have to continue getting their information from Wikipedia and role-playing game rulebooks, then…


  187. vagabond trader
    188 | January 18, 2011 3:51 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Ah yes,the Sharmuta Memorial Wikipedia cut and paste. :razz:


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