Arab armies – and more to the point, Muslim Arab armies – lose modern wars because their war-making ability is compromised, both by Islamic doctrine and thought patterns, and by their ancient Arab tribal culture, which Islam tends to freeze into place.
But we must never allow their lack of prowess at conventional warfare to lull us into a false sense of security. Muslim Arabs are only too well aware of their incapacity to win modern conventional wars. Instead, for the most part, they go with stealth jihad – which means da’wa, corruption of Western academia, news media, and politicians, buying influence with petrodollars, litigation jihad, and mass immigration into non-Muslim countries and territories wherever possible. When and where Muslim Arabs think it will help their cause, they opt for “asymmetrical” rather than conventional warfare – meaning various forms of terrorism and/or guerrilla warfare.
This article is not new; it was first printed in “Middle East Quarterly” Dec. 1999, Vol. 6, No. 2. That said, I would doubt that the social and cultural factors have changed all that much since it was written.
American Diplomacy: Why Arabs Lose Wars
(h/t: mawskrat).
By Norvell B. De Atkine
The author, a retired U.S. Army colonel, draws upon many years of firsthand observation of Arabs in training to reach conclusions about the ways in which they go into combat. His findings derive from personal experience with Arab military establishments in the capacity of U.S. military attache and security assistance officer, observer officer with the British-officered Trucial Oman Scouts (the security force in the emirates prior to the establishment of the UAE), as well as some thirty years of study of the Middle East.~ Ed.
ARABIC-SPEAKING ARMIES have been generally ineffective in the modern era. Egyptian regular forces did poorly against Yemeni irregulars in the 1960s. Syrians could only impose their will in Lebanon during the mid-1970s by the use of overwhelming weaponry and numbers. Iraqis showed ineptness against an Iranian military ripped apart by revolutionary turmoil in the 1980s and could not win a three-decades-long war against the Kurds. The Arab military performance on both sides of the 1990 Kuwait war was mediocre. And the Arabs have done poorly in nearly all the military confrontations with Israel. Why this unimpressive record? There are many factors — economic, ideological, technical — but perhaps the most important has to do with culture and certain societal attributes which inhibit Arabs from producing an effective military force.
False starts
Including culture in strategic assessments has a poor legacy, for it has often been spun from an ugly brew of ignorance, wishful thinking, and mythology. Thus, the U.S. Army in the 1930s evaluated the Japanese national character as lacking originality and drew the unwarranted conclusion that that country would be permanently disadvantaged in technology. Hitler dismissed the United States as a mongrel society and consequently underestimated the impact of America’s entry into the war. American strategists assumed that the pain threshold of the North Vietnamese approximated our own and that the air bombardment of the North would bring it to its knees. Three days of aerial attacks were thought to be all the Serbs could withstand; in fact, seventy-eight days were needed.
As these examples suggest, when culture is considered in calculating the relative strengths and weaknesses of opposing forces, it tends to lead to wild distortions, especially when it is a matter of understanding why states unprepared for war enter into combat flushed with confidence. The temptation is to impute cultural attributes to the enemy state that negate its superior numbers or weaponry. Or the opposite: to view the potential enemy through the prism of one’s own cultural norms.It is particularly dangerous to make facile assumptions about abilities in warfare based on past performance, for societies evolve and so does the military subculture with it. The dismal French performance in the 1870 Franco-Prussian war led the German high command to an overly optimistic assessment prior to World War I. Then tenacity and courage of French soldiers in World War I lead everyone from Winston Churchill to the German high command vastly to overestimate the French army’s fighting abilities. Israeli generals underestimated the Egyptian army of 1973 based on Egypt’s hapless performance in the 1967 war.
Culture is difficult to pin down. It is not synonymous with an individual’s race nor ethnic identity. The history of warfare makes a mockery of attempts to assign rigid cultural attributes to individuals — as the military histories of the Ottoman and Roman empires illustrate. In both cases it was training, discipline, esprit, and élan which made the difference, not the individual soldiers’ origin. The highly disciplined and effective Roman legions, for example, recruited from throughout the Roman Empire, and the elite Ottoman Janissaries (slave soldiers) were Christians forcibly recruited as boys from the Balkans.
The role of culture
These problems notwithstanding, culture does need to be taken into account. Indeed, awareness of prior mistakes should make it possible to assess the role of cultural factors in warfare. John Keegan, the eminent historian of warfare, argues that culture is a prime determinant of the nature of warfare. In contrast to the usual manner of European warfare, which he terms “face to face,” Keegan depicts the early Arab armies in the Islamic era as masters of evasion, delay, and indirection. Examining Arab warfare in this century leads to the conclusion that the Arabs remain more successful in insurgent, or political, warfare — what T. E. Lawrence termed “winning wars without battles.” Even the much-lauded Egyptian crossing of the Suez in 1973 at its core entailed a masterful deception plan. It may well be that these seemingly permanent attributes result from a culture that engenders subtlety, indirection, and dissimulation in personal relationships.
Along these lines, Kenneth Pollock concludes his exhaustive study of Arab military effectiveness by noting that “certain patterns of behavior fostered by the dominant Arab culture were the most important factors contributing to the limited military effectiveness of Arab armies and air forces from 1945 to 1991.” These attributes included over-centralization, discouraging initiative, lack of flexibility, manipulation of information, and the discouragement of leadership at the junior officer level. The barrage of criticism leveled at Samuel Huntington’s notion of a “clash of civilizations” in no way lessens the vital point he made — that however much the grouping of peoples by religion and culture rather than political or economic divisions offends academics who propound a world defined by class, race, and gender, it is a reality, one not diminished by modern communications.
But how does one integrate the study of culture into military training? At present, it has hardly any role. Paul M. Belbutowski, a scholar and former member of the U.S. Delta Force, succinctly stated a deficiency in our own military education system: “Culture, comprised of all that is vague and intangible, is not generally integrated into strategic planning except at the most superficial level.” And yet it is precisely “all that is vague and intangible” that defines low-intensity conflicts. The Vietnamese communists did not fight the war the United States had trained for, nor did the Chechens and Afghans fight the war the Russians prepared for. This entails far more than simply retooling weaponry and retraining soldiers. It requires an understanding of the cultural mythology, history, attitude toward time, etc.; and it demands a more substantial investment in time and money than a bureaucratic organization is likely to authorize.
Mindful of walking through a minefield of past errors and present cultural sensibilities, I offer some assessments of the role of culture in the military training of Arabic-speaking officers. I confine myself principally to training for two reasons:• First, I observed much training but only one combat campaign (the Jordanian Army against the Palestine Liberation Organization in 1970).
• Secondly, armies fight as they train. Troops are conditioned by peacetime habits, policies, and procedures; they do not undergo a sudden metamorphosis that transforms civilians in uniform into warriors. General George Patton was fond of relating the story about Julius Caesar, who “in the winter time. . . so trained his legions in all that became soldiers and so habituated them to the proper performance of their duties, that when in the spring he committed them to battle against the Gauls, it was not necessary to give them orders, for they knew what to do and how to do it.”
Information as power
In every society information is a means of making a living or wielding power, but Arabs husband information and hold it especially tightly. U.S. trainers have often been surprised over the years by the fact that information provided to key personnel does not get much further than them. Having learned to perform some complicated procedure, an Arab technician knows that he is invaluable so long as he is the only one in a unit to have that knowledge; once he dispenses it to others he no longer is the only font of knowledge and his power dissipates. This explains the commonplace hoarding of manuals, books, training pamphlets, and other training or logistics literature.[...]
Norvell “Tex” de Atkine served eight years in Lebanon, Jordan, and Egypt (in addition to extensive combat service in Vietnam). A West Pointer, he holds a graduate degree in Arab studies from the American University of Beirut. Currently he teaches at the JFK Special Warfare School at Ft. Bragg, North Carolina. See also his “The Political-Military Officer: Soldier Scholar or Cocktail Commando?” in American Diplomacy Vol. IV, No. 1 (Winter 1999)
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Tags: Arab-Israeli Wars, Islamic Imperialism, Islamists, Israel, Jihad, Terrorism
Man, I hope the trend continues.
I’ll say it plainly: Arabs are pussies. They haven’t been able to win wars except against other Arabs since the time of Saladin…
@ Iron Fist:
Saladin was a Kurd! SO they haven’t won anything since the 10th century.
@ Rodan:
I piss on them and all their offspring! There’s a multicultural expression of my opinion of them
Iron Fist wrote:
That’s my opinion as well!
Two ol wimmin stuck me in the arse with a cattle prod LOL LOL
@ Grimcargo:
you liked it…
@ Grimcargo:
TMI. What you and NoThreat do off-blog is between you! I don’t want to hear about it! Especially if it involves her Electric Strap-on™
So, the Royal’s of Saudi.
They spent all this time and money enabling the wahabie mindless islamic death cult preaching and practice.
Now they feel the teeth in their own fat ass’s and they see clear where this is all headed there at the big black rock corral gun fight
for a pure death cult with no royals needed other that the heads on pikes.
The luckey ones will get a nice place to build a hide out down Paraguray on the Bush’s little 500,000 ac. rancho.
@ Iron Fist:
Especially since he asked for it!
I’ve been expecting this:
It is the only sensible thing to do. I don’t think Obama wants to replicate the Carter Administration exactly. Then again, I doubt Obama knows what the 444 Days of Shame even are…
Yo, Obama,
Drill baby Drill.
taxfreekiller wrote:
Hmmm, maybe as a final act of defiance they will arrange to have Mecca nuked… Do the world a favor…
@ Iron Fist:
Why evacuate US citizens? If the Mo Bro Ho takes over, that is a good thing, according to the Obama regime. Right?//
Teh Obama Boom™ proceedeth apace:
But we’re in a Recovery! We are recovering downward, that is all
I think that it is always a mistake to overestimate
or underestimate your enemy.
Since we know that Islamists are supersticious
primatives, we should use that against them.
Iron Fist wrote:
Hey it was m to
m wrote:
Yessssss I like it
@ NoThreat2U:
We Can Work With Them® The same way Carter worked with the New Iran, no doubt…
Plan your 2012 vacation now and save!-
////////
@ Grimcargo:
A threesome is fine and all that, but when you add that strap-on you have gone a kink too far for my tastes. Enjoy
NoThreat2U wrote:
Because ole Bammy knows if a bunch of US citizens die the US will have to get involved militarily.
@ Iron Fist:
Yeah, even I remember how well that worked out.
Iron Fist wrote:
Hey I don’t need no stap on. And if I see one coming my way I jump out the window
@ Iron Fist:
LMAO
Phu-leeeze! There is no kink to far for you
Iron Fist wrote:
Yup, that one
stepstrap to far even for this old Rock star…RIX wrote:
In what ways?
Grimcargo wrote:
Bed you are handcuffed to and all eh…
(anybody watch Shameless? Dad don’t care because mom sure can cook!)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
NoThreat2U wrote:
Pig blood coated bullets for a starter…
NoThreat2U wrote:
Well you said you were going to find him….
@ doriangrey:
Hell, the last time he didn’t get away from her for weeks…
@ Grimcargo:
!
@ Grimcargo:
Yes, so I can kick his ass. lol lol
doriangrey wrote:
Then bury the fucker in pig skin body bags, no need to wait till they are dead either…
Facts count up.
@ m:
I think something is out of the bag hahahhahhhhhhhhhhhhahhahha
@ doriangrey:
That’ll work. Keep the ideas coming. It gives me hope
Iron Fist wrote:
Best deal is to get them to fight one another.
They set that up themselves.
Use it.
NoThreat2U wrote:
nooooo and no….I didnt mean that.Just how would you know how kinky stinky I mean IF is. hahahhahahahhaha
@ doriangrey:
Don’t!
Stop!
Don’t!
Stop!
Don’t stop!
CAIRO – Airport staff were scarce, food supplies were dwindling, flight information was non-existent — and some policemen even demanded substantial bribes before allowing foreigners to board their planes.
Cairo Airport was in complete disarray, overwhelmed with over 18,000 stranded passengers, tourists said Tuesday as they detailed a litany of woes. As they spoke, dozens of evacuation planes arrived from all over the world to handle the surging exodus of foreigners and Egyptians amid growing anti-goverment protests in Cairo.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110201/ap_on_re_eu/egypt_evacuations_19
NoThreat2U wrote:
How about a dozen B-52′s loaded with pigs instead of bombs do a bombing run on the Kaaba in Mecca?
SSSSSSSSSSSSH! Don’t tell them what they are doing wrong! Iron Fist wrote:
There’s that totally unexpected unexpectedly again!
Have the Republican Party leadership show them how to have inside the groupe knock down drag outs.
m wrote:
ROTFLMAO…
@ Grimcargo:
I can just tell that he got some SuperFreak in him.
Iron Fist wrote:
ROFLMAO she makes good banana pu ing. sorry I have no
got to get a new key oar
@ doriangrey:
You’re pretty good at this!
@ NoThreat2U:
NOT that there is anything wrong with that!
m wrote:
Thats what she sai
Obama is out side the White House taking a smoke break and letting the piss dry on his pants leg.
It may freeze up.
@ doriangrey:
I’d rather three to six W-88s. Pound the rubble into sand, then turn the sand into glass. Glassification Pacification…..
@ m:
I never said there was……
lol
Rush just said:
the zero cabal refusing to comply with Fed. judge’s ruling. mfm refusing to report this accurately.
He is defying the court order. lol And implementing his power grab.
What else is new?
@ Grimcargo:
8O!!
yinz are feisty today. lol
@ NoThreat2U:
I hate when that doesn’t work!
Iron Fist wrote:
Then splatter the glass with pigs dropped from 30,000 feet…
@ chickadee:
This could get interesting. The Supreme Court (well, five members of it, anyway) already doesn’t like him. This will help smooth things over with them, just ignoring the Judiciary when he doesn’t like the results…
@ doriangrey:
That would be extremely cruel to the piggies
@ NoThreat2U:
Like a pack of rabid yorkies!
@ NoThreat2U:
They should believe that all captured terrorists
will be force fed pork, that dead terrorists will
be buried facing down with bacon in their mouths.
It is an article of faith that the Kaaba in Mecca
can’t be destroyed. that threat should be made.
Let them know that in captivity they will be
humiliated by female guards.
It goes on & on.
@ NoThreat2U:
Besides, you could make a lovely parking lot for the new WalMart once you’ve cleared that inconvenient Idol to Evil out of the way…
Obama,
Better get the Marines to the Cairo airport and set up a secure area and then get the Airforce to ramp up planes to get those people out.
If not the blood is on you and no one else.
like that
NoThreat2U wrote:
I changed keyboards. I am ready now. Say what does your age 80 have to do with it.
@ Grimcargo:
He went there. Oh, my…
RIX wrote:
And a pigs cock up their ass…
Yea, like that as TFK would say…
RIX wrote:
I want to make them pick g.d. cotton. Send them all down here and make them pick it. I guarantee you they’ll shed them bed clothes and be singng amazing grace.
@ RIX:
You are absolutely right. I like those ideas!
@ Grimcargo:
80? Yeah right. You know better.
@ Iron Fist:
He’s pretty brave 800 miles away….
@ doriangrey:
Dude! OMG.
Iron Fist wrote:
SHE went to your huse.
@ Iron Fist:
I’m skeered. Truly.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Sometimes sacrifices have to be made, better the pigs make the sacrifice than American Military Personal. (the pork thing really really bothers Muzzies, according to the Koran it prevents them from going to heaven)
Grimcargo wrote:
No fucking way… I dont want America soil or cotton defiled like that…
@ doriangrey:
Maybe if the piggies were dead before they were dropped, that would be OK. But not live piggies.
@ m:
Women don’t have an age. I learned that a long time ago. That ain’t being pussywhipped. It is just being prudent…
NoThreat2U wrote:
9
doriangrey wrote:
Their worshipping the Devil is going to have something to do with that…
NoThreat2U wrote:
Psychological warfare is a real motherfucker, especially when you know your enemies weaknesses and are willing to exploit them.
@ Iron Fist:
You are very wise…sometimes.
@ Grimcargo:
What is with the 9????
doriangrey wrote:
I bet you never saw one. lol lol
@ taxfreekiller:
I would hate to be stuck at the cairo airport right now with zero in the WH.
What a nightmare thought. He is busy playing basketball while American citizens scramble for their lives.
The only motive he would have for helping get them out is so he won’t look bad. He doesn’t believe Americans deserve any special consideration. No more than people from greece or bangladesh . . .
@ doriangrey:
True. I guess your remark just caught me off guard a bit. lol
NoThreat2U wrote:
I’m ok with that, no need to torture the pigs… And knowing they were being dropped on Muslim soil just might constitute torture, or at least serious insult…
@ doriangrey:
By the way King Abdullah of Jordan isn’t a retired Marine anything from what I can tell.
Primary: Islamic Educational College, Amman, and St. Edmund’s School, Canterbury, England. Secondary: Eaglebrook School and Deerfield Academy, Deerfield, Massachusetts. Military: Royal Military Academy, Sandhurst, England, 1980–1981; Fort Knox, Kentucky (armored officers advanced course), 1985; Royal Staff College, Camberley, England; Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, California (defense resources management course), 1998. University: Oxford University (Middle Eastern affairs), 1982–1983, and Georgetown University (graduate level, international affairs), 1987–1988.
If the Marines gave him an honorary Title so be it, but?
R
Wow! This would kick ass!
That is the first step to becoming truly great in education. I sincerely hope this passes.
Grimcargo wrote:
I am not going to directly answer that, but my Aunt did raise pigs, and their tail isnt the only curly thing on their body…
Well Obama lost the middle east to the death cult.
Well that should keep him from being re-elected.
Just could be an ok trade off.
It will get some oil and gas wells drilled, get more nuke plants built, and this lie based global warming done.
think postive I say
@ doriangrey:
OK, as long as they are dead first.
@ Iron Fist:
There is an article at MM about the school that Obama mentioned in his SOTU. Let me find you the link…..
@ NoThreat2U:
He’s missing the six?
@ doriangrey:
If they beilieved it, I think that the Jihad
would slow down.
Nevergiveup wrote:
It wasnt honorary, it is a part of now scrubbed history, something to do with not offending the Jordanian Muslim US hating general population.
@ Iron Fist:
When President Barack Obama spotlighted a successful school in his State of the Union speech, he picked Bruce Randolph School in Denver.
“Take a school like Bruce Randolph in Denver,” the president said. “Three years ago, it was rated one of the worst schools in Colorado. Last May, 97 percent of seniors received their diploma.”
Bruce Randolph was a middle school when it opened in 2002. In 2007, Denver Public Schools gave Bruce Randolph School permission to operate autonomously. It was the first school in the state to be granted autonomy from district and union rules.
Each teacher then had to reapply for his or her job. A published report said only six teachers remained.
Palestinian government calls for local elections amid Egypt unrest
Palestinian Authority hasn’t held elections since 2006, leaving President and parliament members in power after their elected terms ended.
By The Associated Press
The Western-backed Palestinian government in the West Bank said Tuesday it will hold local council elections as soon as possible – a surprise move reflecting fears that massive anti-government protests in Egypt could inspire unrest here, too.
The announcement was one of many responses among the region’s Western-backed governments – many with questionable legitimacy and limited popular support – to reduce the chances their own people will rise up against them.
Gee I hope they know what they are doing or have it fixed, this could back fire big time
@ NoThreat2U:
BOLF!
@ Iron Fist:
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Iron Fist wrote:
hahahahhahha no Im not. she’s faking amensia
@ RIX:
This would be the perfect time for our plan. Obi is distracted!
doriangrey wrote:
He never spent any appreciable time in the US Marines either than maybe a course here or there so I can’t imagine what your talking about?
doriangrey wrote:
Hey that s wild pigs that have curly hair. lol lol
tick tock , soon “sudden uprising in Iraq”…forces for democracy just like the tea party in the streets…..Obama says let them be free.
@ Grimcargo:
I think I get it now. Does it also have to do with 5 3/4?
Grimcargo wrote:
Whatever they fear & humiliation is big,
we should use it.
Seriously, how would the muzzies react if we targeted Mecca with nukes and we told them to calm down or we turn blackRock Plaza into a large glass bowl?
NoThreat2U wrote:
I think that we put the plan in motion, right after I
clear the driveway.
See ya later.
Obama hates U.S..
NoThreat2U wrote:
You knew all the time.Trying be innocent in front of IF haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahhahahhahhahahhahahh
ducking
father_of_10 wrote:
With their usual defiance, they wont get it until the Kaaba is a 6000 degree glob of molten glowing slag.
@ RIX:
LOL LOL
@ Grimcargo:
Actually it took me a minute. You are bad!
father_of_10 wrote:
Thats exactly what they should do and by the time they finished rebuilding it, they might forget ALLAH
@ father_of_10:
Didn’t some senator already threaten to do just that? I believe he was shouted down for it.
Get them to fight each other.
Use that until they are weak once more.
Then help the few who remain, but require them to re-write the islamic death cult manuel first.
m wrote:
don’t cha stop
Grimcargo wrote:
Better yet, nuke Mecca and then salt the ground with spent nuclear fuel. That way nobody can go there for the next 10 BILLION YEARS…
Gotta go feed all the critters in the world before a tornado gets over here. Have a nice afternoon ya’ll. Don’t do anything I wouldn’t.
The zero cabal is trashing the Judge.
They can’t defend Hell Care. They are going after judge Vinson
NoThreat2U wrote:
Wow. That’s what I’m talking about! Education is the future. We have neglected it too long. Getting rid of the awful Teachers’ Unions is the first step in improving education. Then you get rid of the bad teachers. Bad teachers are worse than no teachers. A good teacher can handle a bigger class. A bad teacher at best wastes everybody’s time and money. And for kids that don’t get educated, that means a wasted life. There is no excuse fo rinner city schools that turn out students on average who are functionally illiterate. That is a crime, and the Teachers’ Unions are why it is happening.
@ Grimcargo:
Gee, is there anything you wouldn’t do???
Grimcargo wrote:
Well hell, that doesn’t leave much out does it…
NoThreat2U wrote:
Probably. Today’s crop of progressive liberal politicians have far more regard for the enemies of America than for anything else. They have enabled Islam to an astonishing degree. If the progressives had ignored the muzzies 30 years ago there would not have been a 9-11. They’ve been empowered and enabled to become the world-wide scourge that they’ve become.
@ Iron Fist:
Funny how Obi used that as an example….and then was busted for not being completely honest. What a lying jackass. Well if you are gonna write to your PTB be sure to mention that article!
Iron Fist wrote:
Our Marxist elitist betters will oppose this with every fiber of their corrupt beings.
@ Nevergiveup:
Hamasistan West is about to be born, I suspect.
@ NoThreat2U:
He apparently enjoys your Electric Strap-on™, so I’m guessing the answer to your question is “No”…
Well I got running to do….time to pay the bills. See yinz later. Behave….you know who you are.
Iron Fist wrote:
And if Israel knows what is good for her, it will die in the cradle.
@ Iron Fist:
No electric strap ons….just gentle spankings. LMAO*** )He’ll pay me back for that remark)
@ Iron Fist:
Children are pawns in the left’s diabolical plan to corrupt and destroy our society.
They are dangerous predators. It is so insidious to hear them saying ‘for the children,’ as they attempt to implement more and more of their destructive agenda.
@ doriangrey:
One can hope, but I wouldn’t have let Hamasistan come into being at all. Once Israel did that, any pretense at a “peace process” was just a waste of time. They need some more War Process before there can be peace…
doriangrey wrote:
Your right but Sharon is in a coma?
ROTFLMAO… Yes, the left really is as stupid as you think they are…
Nevergiveup wrote:
Well somebody better wake his ass up then…
doriangrey wrote:
You would have thought that when he heard Obama had been elected President of The USA, that would have done it? He must be in bad shape?
Plymouth-Canton School District in Michigan allows students to wear kirpan daggers to class
Can Jews bring UZIs?
@ doriangrey:
5 years now
http://jta.org/news/article/2011/01/04/2742398/sharon-marks-five-years-in-coma
waldensianspirit wrote:
I think he knew that. It was a joke
@ Nevergiveup:
Maybe when the Muslim Brotherhood takes over Egypt. That should happen before June, at the latest.
I expect the entore world to be against Israel soom. Obama is amking sure that the US will at best be a mere shadow of a friend to Israel. This crap in Egypt far more severe than many people realize.
@ father_of_10:
I agree. The muzz brotherhood is already trying to direct anger at Israel.
The best Israel can hope for from zero is nothing.
@ father_of_10:
Yeah, I don’t see how Mubarak survives this. The Army said today that it wouldn’t fire on protestors/rioters. Isn’t that game, set, and match? If Mubarak has lost the Army, he is done. It is just a matter of time. And that means the Muslim Brotherhood is coming to power, whomever may wear the mask for a time.
father_of_10 wrote:
Not this people
Iron Fist wrote:
Mubarak may be playing this smarter than we think and in cohots with the Army. I mean eventually those pipplis in Egypt got eat. Which means gong back to work. He and the Army may just let them blow off all their steam.
The real MB and their agenda
Nevergiveup wrote:
The thing about looting is that pretty soon, it’s all looted. Once you loot the grocery stores, the bread is gone. You’re right. Sooner or later people have to get back to work so they can eat. Interesting times, these.
@ chickadee:
Accused him of Judicial activism,lmao. The irony,it burns……
U.S. Senate Democrats reject Tea Party leader’s call to cut Israel aid
Republican Senator Rand Paul argued last week that the U.S. can’t give money away to allies, including Israel, as the country’s debt grows.
“You have to ask yourself, are we funding an arms race on both sides? I have a lot of sympathy and respect for Israel as a democratic nation, as, you know, a fountain of peace and a fountain of democracy within the Middle East. But at the same time, I don’t think funding both sides of the arm race,
See I know the media and the dems are twisting this, but this was still a damn stupid thing for Paul to say. It shows his extreme inexperience and only gives fuel to the Dems. It also shows his complete lack of understanding of the Middle East Policy and Military Strategy. Makes him and us look like morons.
A Coptic friend of mine has an uncle who fought in the ’73 war against Israel. After the cessation of hostilities, he and other Copts who were bypassed by the Israeli offensive were made to walk back home by the Egyptian military, in the desert.
Egyptian plans fell apart because their leadership were filled with arrogant muslim officers who only take orders from other muslims.
Also, by then no Copt could make higher than company-grade rank.
The military blamed the loss on the Copts.
Islam is destroying Egypt, my friend would say.
father_of_10 wrote:
Yes. Just wish we had some Adults in charge in DC
Unfugging real,using word Christian is not politically correct
vagabond trader wrote:
Why don’t people like that just shoot themselves and get it over with
vagabond trader wrote:
Ya know you couldn’t make shit like this up
@ Nevergiveup:
They are adults,dangerous adults schooled and steeped in radical anti American doctrine.They know exactly what they are doing.
vagabond trader wrote:
Limbaugh is saying that the White House is in full
smear mode against this judge. Their negative
research has turned up, gasp! that the judge paid
$700.00 out of pocket for the birth of his first
child!
Let’s hope the baroness is barren.
@ Nevergiveup:
Degenerates.
Iron Fist wrote:
Obama knows what shame is, which is why we don’t get to see his college transcripts or his birth certificate.
His mother evidently didn’t know what shame is, because we can see her bare butt on the internet. And no, I won’t post a link here, but you can google it easily enough.
RIX wrote:
Anything to deflect the people from the actual ruling. I fully expect Obama and his justice department to pretty much ignore the ruling. They’ve gone beyond the constraints of the Constitution in so many ways for so many years that they do not feel any real responsibility to it. I think their only concern is getting it fully in place so that it will be impossible to dismantle after it is fully integrated in the economy.
1389AD wrote:
Seriously. Talk about a new low . . . you can see a nude picture of the mother of the President of the Untied States. Trash family.
rats! i missed this thread…i ran across that article “why arabs lose wars” at the grad school library, i made several copies of it and have it at hand when needed.
a classic!
This demo lying bastard is getting ripped to part by Meygn Kelly
father_of_10 wrote:
That’s true.
Even more to the point, if they follow up on the looting by burning the grocery stores and bakeries down, and frighten the proprietors into fleeing (or injure or kill them), the grocers and bakers may not reappear in sufficient numbers after the riots. You’ll see less food availability and higher prices afterward.
But then, I’m biased because I work in retail. Don’t wanna be robbed or looted!
@ father_of_10:
I think taht’s right, they want it to be a fate accompli.
Altough the DOJ is considering going into coutrt to
get a stay on the judges ruling while they appeal.
1389AD wrote:
Learn by the examples of Korean convenience store owners in Watts. Pack heat and let the local thugs know you will most assuredly pop a cap on ‘em if they even think about looting your place. I know my FNP-45 can keep quite a few people at bay.
@ Nevergiveup:
No worries!
There isn’t any way to get a dagger out that has been SEWN in! Uh uh! No way, no how!
Obama is making it unsafe to be a decent judge in America by exposing their personal lives to the unstable
Mubarak to announce he will step down, not now, but after the next election? Hum something tells me that pig ain’t gonna fly, but hey, nice try. Next
waldensianspirit wrote:
Actually he really is
Iron Fist wrote:
Can you put that stuff together for a thread? (“Progress Report” or lack thereof)
waldensianspirit wrote:
This is at least the second time he has gone after a Federal Judge
m wrote:
At least they are Sikhs and not muzzies.
father_of_10 wrote:
Good point – but that doesn’t offer much protection against evildoers throwing explosive or incendiary bombs from outside. I don’t have the linky at hand, but remember the US embassy worker in Pakistan who got in trouble for using a firearm for defending his home against somebody trying to bomb it from outside? I think I have the story right, but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
Read this article a long time ago. It’s was quite accurate at the time, and probably still is to an extent.
The problem now is that the arabs have a considerable arsenal, better than ever before.
I think that the end game on all this is upheaval is a a pan Islamist confederation that will train its guns on Israel for one more attemot to exterminate the Israelis.
This is going to be a very painful conflict. Even if you assume Israel wins, there are going to be enormous numbers of casualties.
Here’s an interesting thought I just had: Do you think any of our politicians would have a federal just “disappear” in order to further their progressive agenda along?
waldensianspirit wrote:
Yes he is. This is a case of one branch of the government
trying to intimidate another. He did that at his first
State of the Union.
I really think that a Republican House member should make
a speech about it in Chamber & the Senate as well.
They will scream & deny it, but it might back them off.
RIX wrote:
I think you are absolutely correct. I never remember another President doing anything like this. Not even Nixon during Watergate
father_of_10 wrote:
If they thought they could get away with it the Obamanation Administration would in a fucking heartbeat.
@ Nevergiveup:
Nixon was self reflective:
@ Nevergiveup:
That’s true, I can’t remember Nixon using these
tactics. The Republicans really need to defend
these judges.
waldensianspirit wrote:
Well I got nothing to much against old Dick, but that part about him not obstructing Justice and not being a crook? Ah not so so sure about that one!
zero’s behavior in ignoring frderal ct. rulings and smearing decent judges has all the trappings of a dictator in the making. This is how mugabe started out, just doing what the wanted to and nobody stopped him.
Excellent article. Thanks.
I’d like to see us flood the Arab world with movie after movie of the valiant Arab hero intentionally getting himself killed in battle by jumping in the way of bullets, bombs, etc and then being promptly rewarded with his 72 virgins. Film after Film. Film after Film. Jump in front of the bullet = sex. Jump in front of the bullet = sex.
/partial joking mode off
Everyone have a great day.
vagabond trader wrote:
He will do this kind of thing until someone steps up and says no more.
Oh, and good luck in the storm. We’re supposed to get 20 – 30 cm where I am. Not such a big deal. But I had CNN on and apparently you’re all going to die.
@ Nevergiveup:
Nixon had nothing on these thugs and he wasn’t a commie.
Canadian Infidel wrote:
That’s what they say. Ya want my old boots?
@ Nevergiveup:
That’s what I meant by “self reflective”
Canadian Infidel wrote:
Ludwig is on CNN now?
@ chickadee:
I pray it is the scotus who slaps his wee weed.
vagabond trader wrote:
That’s threadworthy. I’ve bookmarked it for future reference.
From one of your earlier suggestions:
Egypt: Populist Revolt or Muslim Brotherhood?
And when you go to the grocery store, if you’re no fan of the Muslim Brotherhood, you’ll want to look for alternatives to Campbell’s Soup:
Boycott Campbell’s Soup
Seems the snow is putting a few crimps in the Super Bowl Parties. Gee hard not to laugh
The weather has turned a bit chiilly here too. We actually had a little rain yesterday and it looks like the high today may be only about 60 degrees. I’m tired of winter. Let’s get back to the triple digits like it’s supposed to be!
Judge Vinson is a Reagan appointee. I thought Reagan and zero were best pals now.
ha ha ha ha
LOL stunning how the narcissist-n-chief thinks he can make it up as he goes along.
He is such a psycho.
@ 1389AD:
Thanks 1389. I heard about the Campbells soups thing a while ago and wrote them.Guess their halal customers are more valuable. What a shame,I really like their select tomato soup,will have to find an alternate.
@ RIX:
And I agree, the other branch [legislative as Schumer's two in one] needs to give Obama a beat down
vagabond trader wrote:
Do you think he will pout and just ignore THEM?
We got a problem with this arrogant, demanding, special pos.
doriangrey wrote:
Just as well they don’t know who WE are or where WE live.
I’m not really joking here.
@ chickadee:
That alone is newsworthy,but nope,crickets.
rotflol.
Nevergiveup wrote:
What size are they? Are they sheep skinned lined?
@ chickadee:
He is going to double down on defying our will and ass kissing the muzz.
@ chickadee:
@ vagabond trader:
They are hoping people won’t notice.
I will never buy that lousy soup again.
Hate that slop.
chickadee wrote:
If they go ahead with their plan to ignore the courts, the House needs to draw up articles of impeachment.
@ vagabond trader:
It’s currently -10 here, with a wind chill of -36.
Supposed to get down to -20 overnight.
vagabond trader wrote:
I thought of someone who is looking for some uggs.
@ chickadee:
I’m good, but thanks.
If I could find a way to get weapons and ammo to Canada though…
Stay safe.
lobo91 wrote:
Bring it.
( Make sure Boehner has a box of kleenex.)
vagabond trader wrote:
This isn’t tomato, but…
If you can get past the name, THIS soup (homemade, but easy to make) is worth the effort, plus it’s good for you:
http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2010/07/28/cock-a-leekie-soup/
1389AD wrote:
I didn’t think you were. It’s nothing to joke about. The progressives allow for no boundaries on themselves. Just look at their examples: From Lenin to Pol Pot and Stalin and Mao. History shows us what they resort to.
@ Canadian Infidel:
You too Canadian Infidel.
We need more of your kind up there.
@ lobo91:
This is the most snow I have ever seen here in 15 years,it is now turning into sleet,hope we don’t lose power.Must be warmer but what a mess.Feels like Buffalo. Stay warm.
lobo91 wrote:
But that would mean that the house actually has to show some spine.
@ 1389AD:
I’d like to, but I am killed at work today, and tommmorrow will be worse. I’ll see what I can do tonight.
lobo91 wrote:
If the GOP any any balls or integrity they would be drawing them up right now and letting Zero know it.
lobo91 wrote:
F or C?
@ 1389AD:
Oh that looks delish,will give it a try,wish we had the ingredients on hand. The name is amusing but you’re talking to a gal who eats gefilte fish.
vagabond trader wrote:
Did you check into the snow rake?
The left is such a bunch of scrunts. Just heard a dumb mfm bimbo say, zero will just go forward and hope for the ruling they deserve. “Deserve”? because he is so special.
It is unconstitutional on it’s face. And zero thinks he deserves what he wants because he has been told so many times he is perfect and fck the Constitution.
father_of_10 wrote:
Yep. We play a clean game but the other side does not.
Ironic example:
Nodrog was on DoD today with a reference to Serbs as “murdering thugs.” I pointed out that if Serbs actually WERE murdering thugs, then Nodrog himself would be dead. Instead, the Serbs aren’t even calling for Nodrog to be banned from the blog.
father_of_10 wrote:
F.
vagabond trader wrote:
We didn’t get much snow. Maybe a tenth of an inch. It would’ve just blown away, anyway.
Just cold and wind.
@ lobo91:
Global Warming®
Iron Fist wrote:
This is about 40 degrees below the normal temps for this time of year here.
I can hardly wait to see next month’s utility bill…
@ Iron Fist:
@ lobo91:
A POX on Al Gore and his frikkin polar bears!
@ chickadee:
Yeah,we had one in the shed and he was allowed to use it but stay away from my plants out front. Now the deck is 4 foot high in fresh snow,lol.
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