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Three guys were sitting around bragging about the best bar they’d ever been to.
Gus: “The best bar? I know a place that for every beer you buy, the bartender gives you a free shot.”
Walter: “That’s nothing. In my neighborhood there’s a bar that does the same, and they have a free all-you-can-eat buffet, too.”
Killgore: “Heh. I know of a better place. Free dinner and all you can drink, and at 10PM they take you into the back room and you get laid.”
The other guys’ eyes got wide in disbelief. “No way. You’ve been there?”
Killgore: “No, but my sister has.”
Badump-Quiche. And with that we’re off and running on The Overnight Open Thread.
I’ll be the first to drink to that.
I got the second round.
You guys ready for another shot?
I need to do something about dinner. All I’ve had was chips and salsa during the blog moc show.
Speaking to Al Jazeera, Shaikh Faraj al Zuway said: “We will stop oil exports to Western countries within 24 hours” if the violence did not stop.
The tribe lives south of Benghazi, which has seen the worst of the deadly violence in recent days.
Akram Al-Warfalli, a leading figure in the Al Warfalla tribe, one of Libya’s biggest, told the channel: “We tell the brother (Gaddafi), well he’s no longer a brother, we tell him to leave the country.”
The tribe live south of the capital Tripoli.
is the radio thing over?
Prebanned wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAr3FVuAbTY&feature=related
apachegunner wrote:
affirmative
@ apachegunner:
Over
dam, wanted to call but my email server was down :>(
gulfloafer wrote:
“Hey everybody! We’re all gonna get laid!” –Rodney Dangerfield
Now that the Arab countries are falling with Iran being the likely beneficiary of what will end up in these places, it’s a good time to put plans in place to bomb Iran.
@ apachegunner:
It’s Sundays 8:30-10:30!
@ Eliana:
someone will soon do just that!
Eliana wrote:
Wait for Iran to agglomerate its empire. Then, attack right before they do.
Eliana wrote:
^blink^^blink^
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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bwahahahaqhahahahahahahahahah
damn, hahahaha that was a good one
@ The Osprey:
You heard about the Heart Attack Cafe in Chandler? Friend of mine sent me a video about it. Sounds like a fun place.
@ rain of lead:
Charles Johnson, I presume?
Hey Rodan! Did I hear some of it on the net? Is that possible, seems I pulled a page and heard some of it.@ Rodan:
@ apachegunner:
Phones work much better…
apachegunner wrote:
I called in but I didn’t want to talk.
@ Bunk X:
how does that work? everyone chatters?
and who did I hear? was it a moderator? was it the Rodan man?
@ Eliana:
no, I agree that is what SHOULD be done
but with Obama in the white house it will NEVER happen
libs never use force when it is really called for
Submitted without comment:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/19/AR2011021904140.html?wprss=rss_print/asection
@ rain of lead:
Who said anything about Obama attacking Iran?
Obama doesn’t have the final say in this matter.
Everyone says no to Obama these days anyway and there isn’t a single thing he can do about it (especially after having lost the rest of the Middle East).
well this is a good bit of news
MotherJones reports that their sources have said that riot police have been ordered to clear protesters from the Wisconsin Capitol building at 2 AM. Protesters have been surrounding the Capital Building in recent days because of a budget battle and issues with workers unions. Wisconsin’s Democratic Senators have even fled the state to avoid the budget votes and protesting in the state.
Many of the Senators are suspected of hiding out in Chicago hotels, outside the reach of Wisconsin State Police.
This Aussie report says that the 2 Iranian warships will not pass through the Suez Canal until Wednesday:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/iranian-warships-suez-passage-delayed-until-wednesday/story-e6frg6so-1226009233563
@ MrPaulRevere:
“Hi, my vehicle is ghetto fabulous”. WTF?????That is so fucking lame.
@ yenta-fada:
Farg it, the Israelis should sink ‘em. The whole place is going up in flames as it is, nobody would even notice.
@ Eliana:
it would not hurt my feelings if Israel bombed the entire country
into a glass parking lot but at this time I do not see them doing
anything
@ NoThreat2U:
Hopefully it won’t look like this: http://ghetto-cars.com/wp-content/uploads/ghetto-cars/donk-limo-cadillac.jpg
@ MrPaulRevere:
Priceless!
@ rain of lead:
This is why I called them “plans” and not “bomb Iran right this split second.”
Whatever you think about their plans, Israel will make up her own mind when it’s time to strike.
apachegunner wrote:
I called in just to hear m’s lovely accent and to trash talk everyone else.
@ Bunk X:
I got a email for you.
Eliana wrote:
I think you are right there. With the bunch that we have leading us now, Israel is on its own and will need to find the optimal strategic approach to preserving itself. Hopefully in a couple of years this will change, but right now the people in charge of foreign policy are alienating our allies and making us appear weak to our enemies. What a great combination [if you are trying to destroy a country from within].
@ AZfederalist:
Exactly.
Obama has lost almost every trace of American influence in the Middle East, which means that Israel is alone with hundreds of nuclear weapons (and other kinds of weapons) aimed at the bad guys.
What’s Obama going to say that will stop Israel from doing what Israel feels the need to do to survive? He can’t say a word.
All this time, Obama has been cranking up the Middle East for the worst war in world history.
It’s getting very close now.
@ Eliana:
How will Israel pull it off? The distance is far and Iran’s plants are inside mountains. It would take a sustain campaign to do this. Only the US, Russia or China have the means to do an air campaign of this magnitude.
If Israel strikes Iran, the pilots could be on a suicide mission. Hizballah and Syria will attack asap.
I want Iran hit, but Israel doesn’t have the means for a sustained 1 month campaign.
Israel is better off launching a pre-emptive war on Hizballah and Syria. Destroying them would hurt Iran.
@ MrPaulRevere:
And some dumbass really thinks that looks cool., How friggi sad…..
@ Eliana:
China might hit Taiwan or get North Korea to strike South Korea.
Plus tensions are hight between Azerbaijan (Muslim) and Armenia (Christian). Russia will come in if Armenia is attack.
Many hot spots. This is the result of weak leadership in the US.
New DOD.
Chuck the Follower
@ Eliana:
Obama is a lodestone around Israel’s neck. He isn’t doing the rest of us any good either. Fool & she-wolf are only concerned about going to the cool parties and making money. Israel is stepping up all plans, I’m sure. The speed of these ‘protests’ and counter-protests makes me suspicious, but it’s all beyond my understanding. Easily controlled populations of poor countries are the norm in the Middle East. Any imam can work them up regularly.
@ Eliana:
Look at how Colombia is reaching out to China. Israel will have to reach out to someone else. America is not reliable under this regime!
Rodan wrote:
Did you see this about Christie? Presidential candidate??
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49886.html
@ MrPaulRevere:
I worked for a rental car company years ago that had one of our cars ‘converted’. And they did something along that lines to our rental car- gold trim, dark tinted windows, all that crap.
Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
Yes, have not eaten there yet. Let Kirly, Macker and I know next
time you are going to be down here and we can all
go have a coronary together.
@ Rodan:
Israel doesn’t have to attack the nuclear facilities at all (or at least not until later when they are completely defenseless).
If Israel attacks Iran, I believe Israel will aim for the leadership and Iran’s military capability. Why hit nuclear facilities and then wait to see what they do? Israel should hit the response first.
Syria’s Assad would probably die on the first day. He knows it. His palaces have been buzzed by Israeli fighter jets to let him know that Israel knows where he sleeps (no matter which palace he’s in).
Hezbollah also knows that they would go from controlling a country to controlling rubble while mostly dead (Hezbollah).
Iran is the biggest problem.
Cutting down Iran would resolve a lot of other problems.
@ Eliana:
There are plans in place for every contingency you can think of by every country you can think of.
@ Rodan:
India is a natural ally for Israel.
They also hate Pakistan more than Israel does and they are much closer when it comes to sensing if Pakistan is up to something.
@ Eliana:
How will Israel cripple Iran’s military? Their bases are spread out. Also you need repeated runs to do damage a nation of that size. I’m not downplaying Israel’s capabilities, I’m just pointing out the difficulties.
Hizballah would still exist. They are the Lebanese Shia. Israel would still have to destroy them, Iran or no Iran.
Israel really is in a predicament. Damn if they do, damn if they don’t.
@ Bunk X:
A lot of things depend on talent that some countries just don’t have, though.
This is why Israel as a newborn state could fight off and defeat six Arab armies at the same time.
@ Eliana:
Pakistan’s nukes also are a threat to Israel. Should that regime fall to the Taliban, AL-qaeda will get nukes. India, Israel and the US will be the first targets.
I have this Indian female coworker and she really hates Pakistan.
@ Eliana:
Check your mail!
sleepy time
@ Bunk X:
Hey give me a quick shout!
@ Rodan:
We don’t know what Israel has planned but they do know the difficulties. Israel fights like Israel fights, not like America would fight if they were the ones doing the fighting instead.
Mubarak said in an interview in 2002 that war with Israel is a trap.
He wasn’t kidding.
Iran is the head of the snake.
Hezbollah is nothing without Iran.
@ Eliana:
They are beloved by the Lebanese Shiite. They get their money from Lebanese Shiite diamond merchants in Africa and Lebanese Shiites in Canada and the US. They are the Lebanese Shiite community. The 2 are inseparable.
The best bet is fomenting chaos in Iran.
I have to wonder which of our allies Obama’s going to throw under the bus next. And which one of them will come out and tell him to f— off.
This is spot on.
Santelli compares budget crisis to Sept. 11
@ Eliana:
Speak of the Devil!
Hezbollah might attack Israeli target to help Iran
@ Rodan:
When Iran is under pressure, they get Hezbollah to start a conflict with Israel to distract everyone.
It’s being speculated in Israel that Hezbollah will do the same thing soon.
Hezbollah needs to be demolished, but internal unrest won’t be enough to bring Iran down. They have other proxies that can start wars with Israel for Iran’s benefit, too.
Hezbollah might attack Israeli target to help Iran
@ mfhorn:
Did you know that Ohole is making a trip to the UK in….May I believe it is???
@ Eliana:
Ha ha I just linked to that!
@ NoThreat2U:
The Queen must need a new collection of Obama speeches. Or he’ll return the Resolute desk or something.
Israel is NOT on a list of falling dominoes.
If Israel is in imminent danger, Israel will use every single weapon (including nuclear) at her disposal.
Every single one.
Israel can launch from land, air and sea.
@ Eliana:
Hey you get my mail?
@ Eliana:
I read they will firebomb Lebanon in the next war. They will treat every Shia village as a military base. It will be gloves off.
@ Rodan:
No, my mail screen isn’t up.
I’ll check it out.
While Muslim protesters are being shot on the street by
Muslim governments in Libya, Morocco, Yemen, Albania,
Egypt, Algeria, Djibouti, Tunisia, Iraq, Gaza, Bahrain, Iran
and elsewhere, Arabs in Israel enjoy a day at the beach.
[All credit goes to TheReligionOfPeace]
By the way, Saudi Arabia is now saying that they will help Bahrain if necessary. Bahrain has a Shiite majority and this worries Saudi Arabia a lot.
Saudi Arabia says it’s ready to help Bahrain’s rulers
@ Eliana:
I think something is up with Hizballah. Nasrallah has been talking junk. The 3 Iranian ships going towards Syria. I’ve also read in Lebanese Christian forums Hizballah has been activating their fighter.
Something is up and I’,m glad to see Israel is on alert over this.
@ Eliana:
The Saudis know if Bahrain falls into Iran’s orbit, they will be next.
BREAKING: Call with eyewitnesses in Tripoli – IT IS GOING TO BE A BLOODBATH!
A massacre is going to happen in Zawya. (Libya)
@ mfhorn:
Heh..you made me *snort* I wasn’t expecting that response. lol lol
@ Bagua:
This is getting more interesting.
Eliana wrote:
Indeed! The sooner the better? Or should it wait till Obama is out?
@ Bagua:
Obama has lost almost all American influence in the Middle East.
Israel should act while Obama is in office, if needed.
Rodan wrote:
Yep, Khaddafi won’t go down without rivers of blood. Nor would have Mubarak if the army hadn’t turned on him.
The prior Assad killed many thousands of his own people to suppress revolt. It ain’t gonna’ be a made for Disney movie in my opinion.
@ Bagua:
They want people to go help them attack Libya’s government.
I don’t think anyone will go, do you?
@ Eliana:
I’m worried that Obama would try to stop Israel, or just fail to react properly to an Iranian retaliation. But it could be more dangerous to wait.
It needs doing though. Iran must be stopped.
@ Eliana:
I think they have fantasies that the Italians would come an save them. They are on their own. They may get a speech from Obama or and expression of “concern” from the vile EU, but nobody is coming to help.
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Full text of Saif Gaddaffi’s speech, as Transcribed and tweeted live by @SultanAlQassemi with screenshots from AlJazeera.
He sounds like a chip off the old nut himself.
Israel probably has far better humint inside Iran than we do.
If I was them I would forget about taking out the nuke plants I would
launch a decapitation strike with cruise missiles against Iran’s leadership at the same unleashing
their air force and armor against the Hez.
@ The Osprey:
That would be a good start.
BBC updates on Libya, Bahrain.
0800Welcome to the BBC’s live coverage of the unrest across the Middle East and North Africa. Stay with us for the latest updates – reports from our correspondents on the ground, expert analysis, and your reaction from around the world. You can contact us via email, text or twitter. We’ll publish what we can.
Etc.
The Osprey wrote:
That’s a better option!
@ The Osprey:
Yes, I’m thinking Israel will end up doing something like this, too.
There’s no point in going after the nuke facilities and then seeing how Iran would respond. The Iranian responders should be eliminated first (and taking out Hezbollah at the same time would be a good idea, IMO).
@ The Osprey:
@ Rodan:
Now’s as good a time as any, during the fog of war…in this case, all the “unrest.”
@ Macker:
Also, Iranian warships are heading towards Israel, so an Israeli attack wouldn’t be out of the blue if it happened very soon.
Here is a Blog following the alledged Social Media influence on the revolts
@ Eliana:
The Mullah’s are not only establishing a Naval presence in the Mediterranean, they are opening a supply route.
What exactly is in the supply ship accompanying the warship? Is the warship to protect the supply ship? Or is the supply ship to aid the warship?
Both are escalations and provocations.
@ Bagua:
Either way, it doesn’t sound good.
Iran has delayed the ships’ passage by another 48 hours.
Maybe they’re rethinking.
@ Eliana:
Osprey’s idea is really the best bet.
@ Rodan:
It’s the same thing I said except for hitting Hezbollah at the same time.
The idea is to cut off the head of the snake (including the military command and the worst weapons).
In Lebanon in 2006, Israel took out Hezbollah’s Iranian long-range missiles on the first day of the fighting, for example.
@ Eliana:
Will Israel attack those ships?
@ Rodan:
It’s hard to say, but Netanyahu is calling it a “grave” provocation, which is unusually strong language for him.
Eliana wrote:
OK see I didn’t realize what you meant. I thought you were talking about airstrikes. Missile strikes are more realistic.
My apologies.
@ Eliana:
He bites and not barks. It is a provocation and I think its has something to do with Hizballah. That’s the theory the Leb Christians are saying.
@ Eliana:
Hizballah assisting in cracking down on Iranian protestors.
@ Rodan:
The main thing is that Israel’s target should be the head of the snake and not the nuclear sites.
Iranian leaders have already promised that they’ll attack Israel (and American interests) if Israel hits the nuclear sites, so it’s best to go right to the top (Ahmadinejad, mullahs and military command) first and take them out.
@ Eliana:
Can’t fault the logic in that. I’d like to see the long range missiles taken out as well, at a minimum.
@ Rodan:
Ahmadinejad brought in Hezbollah thugs to attack his own people.
Awful.
@ Bagua:
Me, too.
Israel did this to Hezbollah in 2006.
@ Rodan:
Yep, just like before. The HezbAllah are there to do the dirty work. Murder civilians, all the things they are good at. Just like in the prior demonstrations.
@ Eliana:
See Cruise missiles are realistic, I was under the impression of air strikes.
It was rude of me arguing with you.
I am a Latin gentlemen and don’t believe in arguing with ladies!
Besides, you never win an argument with a woman!
Bagua wrote:
I hate the Lebanese Shia. I’m 1/3 biologically Lebanese Christians. They occupy my land.
@ The Osprey:
And go after the force concentrations, Army, Navy, Air Force, and Republican Guard bases and barracks. Use ERW warheads, if necessary. And drop one right down that silly-ass well in Qom.
The nuclear-weapon manufacturing sites are not an immediate threat; but the military bases are.
With the military and Republican Guard all but wiped out, the Iranian people might have a chance to rise and throw off the islamist yoke.
@ Eliana:
The same thing should happen in Syria. It is unacceptable for these long range missiles to exist in those countries after the 2006 war. Sooner or later Israel will have to draw the line on this.
Eliana wrote:
You see that’s a Lebanese Christian forum. They link to an Israeli site!
The main thing I see Lebanese Christians and Israelis argue on that forum is who has better beaches, women and makes better hummus.
If only Lebanon was Christian still.
Bagua wrote:
Israel needs to hit them. Also they should firebomb any village that allows missiles to hit Israel.
Eliana wrote:
In ’67 they tried to strike all of their enemies air forces on the ground. They knocked out enough of the Gyppo and Syrian air forces that morning to give them air superiority the rest of the war. They hit the enemy airfields simultaneously at sunrise, IIRC.
@ The Osprey:
Yes, I know!
Israel didn’t do what people expected at the time and caught Egypt in particular with their pants down.
Egypt, of course, lied to Jordan about being victorious against Israel so Jordan jumped in to join the fun (despite Israel’s warning to stay out of it).
The Arabs lost huge.
@ Rodan:
It was a tremendous mistake responding to a month of missiles raining on the Israeli heartland with SWAT style surgical strikes that did not stop them. A terrible precedent was set.
If Mexico rained thousands of missiles on Houston the reaction would be severe. Israel needs to establish a real deterrent.
What will become of the Christians, or even the Druze and Sunni in Lebanon if they don’t form an alliance with Israel? This is a cross-road in history for Lebanon.
@ Bagua:
The wrong Israeli political party was in power at the time.
All of Israel’s enemies have been more cautious (so far) with Netanyahu and the Likud Party at the helm.
@ Bagua:
If I were Israel, I would begin smugling weapons to the Maronites (Lebanese Forces and Kateb). The Christians control several ports there. Hwck they can even send people to Colombia (large Lebanese community) to train there. Then in the next war, WHile Israel pummels Hizballah, the Maronites attack them from behind. Hizballah would collapse.
gulfloafer wrote:
Got it. You almost pw3nd me.
@ Rodan:
Yep, if only they would all cooperate for that end. If only Bashir Gemayel had survived, everything could have been different.
@ Eliana:
Hey Many Lebanese Christians claim Nasrallah is living in Iran. That’s the rumor.
@ Eliana:
Yep, that and the military had become unprepared for what they faced. Presumably they are ready for the next round, but only if the politicians allow them to use their might.
@ Eliana:
What’s that T-shirt I see on the net? “Six Days, Bitch.” I LOVE IT.
Bagua wrote:
The US forced Israel and the Maronites not to avenge Bashir’s death. The US didn’t want a Christian victory in Lebanon. It was the cold war and they wanted The House of Saud’s help in Afghanistan.
@ Rodan:
Admins…please check your e-mail. Thanks!
WTF is that as your avatar, Macker? Reagan with Obama’s ears?
The Osprey wrote:
It looks like Obama with a Reagan mask.
@ Rodan:
Yep, Lebanon and the Christians were sold down the river. Israel is never allowed victory, only these stalemates that lead to future wars which are increasingly dangerous.
@ The Osprey:
@ Philip_Daniel:
Courtesy of James Hudnall and Batton Lash…the two guys who got in “trouble” with the MSM, calling their Obama Nation toons RAAAAACIST!
Philip_Daniel wrote:
LOL that makes sense.
@ Macker:
What is their website URL.
Macker wrote:
The US Army beat that record in 1991…
//
Eliana wrote:
Honest question. Please don’t read into it.
If the U.S. for some godforsaken stupid reason decided to cut off financial support for Israel, who would step up to the plate?
Rodan wrote:
WHAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
Will that do?
@ Bunk X:
From what I read that’s part of the reason Their PM is focusing on growing the economy. He wants Israel to be self sufficient and not dependent on others.
Eliana could probably verify this better than I can.
I believe we are facing revolutions across the planet. Whether they are planned and instigated or were tottering on the brink to begin with. Facing financial insolvencies around the world, the distraction and chaos of wars will take the headlines. My opinion, (not believing in coincidences and not believing that a single event can precipitate wars and revolutions on this scale) I pray for Israel and for the unwitting pawns mowed down by larger forces.
Well said.
@ yenta-fada:
Too many people in the west think that being against Israel will please the Muzzies. They are wrong and mistaken.
@ Bunk X:
The money is not as important as access to US technology and resupply in the event of conflict. Though it is certainly assistance.
For the US it is a win as for a paltry amount they are able to prove and improve US weapons and tactics, as well as gain tremendous intelligence on Soviet and now Russian technology. That alone would justify many times the aid amount.
The absence of the aid would not crush Israel, but the absence of the supply line would be extremely dangerous.
@ Bagua:
Re supply and access to Technology is key.
@ Bunk X:
Israel doesn’t need the money.
@ Bagua:
It was a rhetorical question, but it still stands. Who will stand up for Israel if the U.S. balks? Why are Jewish Democrats aligned with the leftists’ intention to destroy Israel?
@ Bagua:
Correct – this would be difficult.
It’s not the money but the specific supplies that are needed.
@ Bunk X:
Canada is already doing this – PM Stephen Harper.
He’s said that an attack on Israel is an attack on Canada (and he’s very serious about this).
India is also a natural ally for Israel.
India and Israel get along well.
@ Eliana:
Isn’t that one of the reasons Natanyhu pushes economic growth? I remember reading when he was PM in the 90′s, he told the US congress he wants to one day stop receiving loan guarantees from the US.
Rodan wrote:
Ignorant and led by people who only are concerned with personal gain. (long list pending)/
@ Eliana:
Not to mention Colombia as well. But Colombia also is being back stabbed by this regime.
I feel like I’m in alternate universe. As much as I criticized Bush, he never would back stab our allies.
@ Rodan:
Israel already doesn’t need the loan guarantees.
In fact, Israel owns $32 billion in U.S. debt.
Israel is one of the countries that lends America money.
Netanyahu is a wonderful economist who is still helping Israel’s economy. He got a Masters from MIT in economics.
He’s been helping Israel for a long time (especially when he was the Finance Minister under Ariel Sharon). He’s also helping now.
Eliana wrote:
Canada has only a small military and mostly outdated equipment. Harper has made a moral commitment, but has a minority government and a population who thinks they don’t need to spend money on self-defense. (because we’re the nice guys, eh)/
@ Bunk X:
No one else really has the power to stand up for Israel the way the US does. It would be a dangerous situation and force Israel to escalate any conflict. If Israel can not protect itself using conventional military force, the alternative is nuclear.
Eliana wrote:
If I can make a rare sports analogy: The Yankees win a disproportionate amount of games and series because they have the deepest pockets and hire the best talent.
@ yenta-fada:
It’s a wonderful moral statement of principle, isn’t it?
It’s breathtaking!
I’ve watched his speeches on YouTube many times. I got some links in email from other Jews and I just watch him over and over.
In 2011, it’s very unusual to hear an actual Prime Minister or President of a real country say things like this about Israel and the Jewish people.
It just makes my eyes pop and heart warm every time I see him doing this on YouTube.
Rodan wrote:
Unless it involved the House of Saud who were never our allies, really. We are definitely in rapidly changing times. Breathe in and out, stay centered. It’s getting crazier.
@ Eliana:
I never knew that. This should get out to debunk the lies that Israel depends on the US. With our fiscal mess, we are depending on them for money!
Not to mention China!
So we are actually repaying Israel for lending us money.
Eliana wrote:
Harper is, afaik, a quietly religious man and a mensch.
Eliana wrote:
If Israel doesn’t need the money, I doubt the U.S. would be sending any.
Bagua wrote:
That’s the bald truth, isn’t it?
@ yenta-fada:
The talent has always been a very powerful force in Israel’s military defense.
The stories from Israel’s War of Independence make me laugh and cry at how Israel was able to do things that a tiny newborn country shouldn’t have been able to do with so little in the way of military equipment.
@ Bunk X:
It would be bad diplomacy (a very wrong message) if the U.S. gave Egypt and Jordan military aid without giving Israel military aid.
So it makes sense to keep it all going for the sake of keeping it all going, so to speak.
Signing off. Hoping I can sleep with the turmoil. Good night, good people.
@ Rodan:
Actually, Israel gets most of the aid money in the form of vouchers that are spent on goods from U.S. Defense contractors.
So the military aid to Israel stays in the U.S. economy.
Israel gets supplies, though, which are extremely helpful.
@ yenta-fada:
I’m sure you’re right!
He’s wonderful!
@ yenta-fada:
Sleep well! Perilous times indeed.
@ yenta-fada:
Good night!!
@ Bunk X:
It seems we are paying them back for lending us money.
32 Billion we borrowed from them.
Is there any nation we don’t owe money to now?
@ Bunk X:
No doubt the US assistance is of tremendous value. I would argue it is a two way street and via Israel the US was able to develop and prove supremacy over front line Soviet weaponry. This is ongoing with front line Russian weaponry as well. Best value for money the military gets in my opinion. But that doesn’t diminish the value to Israel. It is a partnership.
@ Rodan:
Some of the reason that the U.S. military aid has kept going to Israel is because it’s going to Egypt and Jordan.
It wouldn’t be the proper message if Israel stopped getting it while these other countries were getting it for making peace with Israel.
@ Bagua:
Absolutely!
It’s extremely helpful to Israel!
It’s a partnership and it’s an emotional support issue for a lot of people in the U.S. Congress to be giving Israel military aid.
Israel is very appreciative, but obviously, it becomes a more complicated issue when Obama is President because Obama thinks it makes him the boss of Israel and Egypt (also Jordan).
@ Rodan:
Bond transactions are also a two way street. The buyer gets a rate of return in what is considered the most risk free investment. The US benefits from the dollar being the reserve currency of choice.
The problems are the size of the debt and the trade imbalances.
Goodnight!!
@ Eliana:
Rand Paul recently proposed cutting everyone off from foreign aid. I didn’t agree with his idea, but the Left tried a divide and conquer thing by claiming he wanted to cut off Israel. He wanted to cut off everyone because in his mind The US is broke. Then people were attacking him for being anti-Semitic. I didn’t like that attack since it lessons the meaning of the word and there are real anti-Semites out there. Talking about cutting off foreign aid is not in this category. Since when does the Washington Post care about Israel? It was so disingenuous that Flyover country did a post on it.
I’m going to do a Rodan doctrine post and the corner stone is having welled armed allies like Israel and others putting America’s enemies in their place.
Stay turned it will be very controversial!
Eliana wrote:
Night!
@ Eliana:
Great chatting with everyone.
Rodan wrote:
Controversial? Makes solid sense.
Israel does own $32 Billion of our debt and that number is climbing. Most of the so called “Aid” to Israel is payment on the Interest and has been pointed out here is normally paid in vouchers that only spend in the US. Win/Win we duck the interest and they get the supply chain they need.
India and Israel are tighter than many people realize. Due to political squirming India cannot send troops to Israel for schooling. So they send them to the US (notably Ft Huachuca just seven miles from my front door) to UAV and Intelligence courses taught by Israeli Instructors! Three countries stay happy and India’s Diplomatic Corps has no questions to answer!
Of course the Treaty’s that make this happened were signed under Bush and Odubasses people would love to kill them but, will not try because they know that 67 votes ain’t gonna happen!
The Treaty life is long enough that Odumbass will not be able to touch them even if he gets four more years!
@ ThreeHundred:
Well Tranzi Progressives will not like it. Wilsonian Republicans will not like it either.
@ AZOlddog:
See this needs to get out. We owe Israel money and actually are repaying them back.
This fact needs the light of day.
Hell, there is even a Bar in this town where an Iraeli Instructor can pay his first nights bar tab with a Force Zahal Challenge Coin!
Owners are Desert Storm Vets and owe their ass to a Iraeli developed UAV!
Ok, so I was cruising Utube for vids, and viewed some classic Ozzy..only to see a comment that Justin Biebler “owns Ozzy” LOL x10, God help us…
When people say “Ozzy”, my first thought is “Nelson.” Okay, it was “Ozzie”, not “Ozzy”, but still…
Walter hasn’t been banned yet? Amazing.
ThreeHundred wrote:
I think they were referring to Ozzy Nelson, like Mike C said.
“Walter” who ?
Good Morning Blogmocracy! Today is another glorious day in the Reign of Emperor Barack Hussein I, Pasha of the United States and Defender of the
FaithUmmah! There are 624 Days Until the 2012 Presidential Election! Well, the world is certainly an interesting place today! Libya is in Chaos, and that couldn’t have happened to a more deserving dictator. Unlike Egypt,Libya really is a place where whatever replaces Kaddaffy Duck likely won’t be worse. We all forge tit, by Kaddaffy was well on his way to an atomic bomb when we captured Saddam Hussein in his spider hole. There are some fifty thousand tons of WMD related material he surrendered that is now over at Y-12. When people say the Iraq War accomplished nothing, remind them of that. Closer to home, the battle rages on in Wisconsin. The governor has called out the Danti-democratic Democrats who have fled the state rather than lose a vote as the cowards that they are. He can’t fire them, but I wish he’d fire the teachers that “sick out” and shut down the schools. They have shown that they are unfit to be educators. Are they setting an example for the Children™ that society finds acceptible? I guess that depends on whether you are a Prog or not. Finally, in Arts and Entertainment, I may have to dust off my joystick (:P) and get the latest First Person Shooter game to come along the pike. Bulletstorm looks to be extremely ientertaining. I just want to find out if it is skinnable. Then we could have a custom skin that skins the zombies as various Democrat thugs. Ah, the art value is high, and the entertainment priceless!Good Morning All….gonna be a great day!
getting kinda rough in Lybia
well done Trevor Bayne….winning the big one a
day after your 20th birthday
is this thing on?/
Yes.
Mike C. wrote:
short and simple answer….you can never ever
be a polotician.lol
Happy Presidents (except for Obama) Day!!
@ ThreeHundred:
Are we sure it’s ‘Justin’ Bieber and not ‘Justine’?
@ mfhorn:
Aw, quit pickin’ on the kid.
It’s not his fault he’s being exploited (despite his incredible wealth.) All one has to do is take a look at other “Disney products” (Lindsay Lohan, Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus) to see what happens when you “manufacture” these little money-makers at such a young age.
BTW, where are his parents?
I’m usually a HUGE personal responsibility guy, but when it comes to this worship of young phenoms, I lay it wholly at the feet of a declining culture.
He doesn’t know what the f*ck he’s talking about. The REAL question is, why is ANYBODY listening?
@ Iron Fist:
Good morning IF! When I played UT2K3/4 back in the day, I skinned the bad guys as Saddam, Osama, Yasser, Lenin and Hitler! Had a blast!
“You killed Saddam!”
Zionist Killing Machine
great name for a band
ht/jihad watch
The Repuke Party should be called the Cave Party.
They cave in all the time
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703498804576156964112764614.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories
@ waldensianspirit:
Sigh.
When will they learn?
@ Bumr50:
Um, isn’t Christina Aguilera part of that bunch too?
@ Bumr50:
You’ve got a point there. He’s got to have at least some level of talent, even if it’s nothing I’d listen to at gunpoint. And you’re right, kids like that tend to get exploited and end up really screwed up later in life.
Democracy, I squished it
@ Macker:
She actually seems pretty well adjusted.
So they’re 1 for 5.
@ waldensianspirit:
Yeah, moderates!
This is the RINO’s finest hour, a reward for a life spent imitating a conservative.
@ mfhorn:
Believe it or not, there’s a show on E! this morning at 10am EST titled: “My Kid Is Gonna Be Famous.”
Lovely.
@ Bumr50:
But she fucked up the National Anthem.
You are about to get reeducated. This is why, in my opinion, fixing our tax code, regulations and school system will ensure America and free countries continue to lead the World.
Can anyone tell when Congressman Allan West made these brave statements?
@ Bumr50:
Shows like that, these child beauty pageants, and parents who, while recognizing their kid has talent and pushing a bit to develop & make use of that talent, won’t let them be kids are pathetic.
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