As Jonah points out – there is a difference between civil service unions and private sector unions. Civil servants have benefits that private sector workers can only dream about. In the private sector workers were exploited and often paid for their lives for management’s stinginess and vindictiveness (see the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire of 1911) which killed 146 young immigrant girls because management locked the doors so they could not sneak out of the sweat shop for a smoke or to get some fresh air.
Triangle Shirtwaist Fire, March 25, 1911
What dangers do elementary school teachers face, getting hit by spitballs?
by Jonah Goldberg
Public unions have been a 50-year mistake
The protesting public school teachers with fake doctor’s notes swarming the Capitol building in Madison, Wis., insist that Gov. Scott Walker is hell-bent on “union busting” in their state. Walker denies that his effort to reform public sector unions in Wisconsin is anything more than an honest attempt at balancing the state’s books.
I hope the protesters are right. Public unions have been a 50-year mistake.
A crucial distinction has been lost in the debate over Walker’s proposals: Government unions are not the same thing as private sector unions.
Traditional, private sector unions were born out of an often bloody adversarial relationship between labor and management. It’s been said that during World War I, U.S. soldiers had better odds of surviving on the front lines than miners did in West Virginia coal mines. Mine disasters were frequent; hazardous conditions were the norm. In 1907, the Monongah mine explosion claimed the lives of 362 West Virginia miners. Day-to-day life often resembled serfdom, with management controlling vast swaths of the miners’ lives. And before unionization and many New Deal-era reforms, Washington had little power to reform conditions by legislation.
Meanwhile, government unions have no such narrative on their side. Do you recall the Great DMV cave-in of 1959? How about the travails of second-grade teachers recounted in Upton Sinclair‘s famous schoolhouse sequel to “The Jungle”? No? Don’t feel bad, because no such horror stories exist.
Government workers were making good salaries in 1962 when President Kennedy lifted, by executive order (so much for democracy), the federal ban on government unions. Civil service regulations and similar laws had guaranteed good working conditions for generations.
The argument for public unionization wasn’t moral, economic or intellectual. It was rankly political.
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The unions and the protesters in Wisconsin see Walker’s reforms as a potential death knell for government unions. My response? If only.
Read the rest: Public unions must go
Rodan Update:
Gov. Walker is now withholding the paychecks of the 14 state Senate Democrats who have refused to attend the session.
MADISON, Wis. (AP) State senators who miss two or more session days will no longer get paid through direct deposit. They’ll have to pick up their checks in person on the Senate floor during a session.
The new rule is aimed at forcing the return of 14 Senate Democrats who have been hiding in Illinois since Thursday. They fled the state to stall a vote on an anti-union bill, and have threatened to stay away until Republican Gov. Scott Walker agrees to compromise.
Gov. Walker is hitting them where it hurts, in their pockets.
(Hat Tip: Mike C and RD at GCP)
Tags: Jonah Goldberg, unions
Here’s how to solve this:
Well I hate all Unions now a days, but yup Public Service Unions have to go
Actually, this one is better-
I work in local government and have very good bennies. When I first got this job there was an attempt to unionize. Thank goodness it failed.
I’m grateful our state does not have to deal with them. I’m appalled at the behavior of these “public servants” in Wisconsin. (and yes the scare quotes are intentional)
It looks like those Docs in Wisconsin are in deep doodoo. Good
Nevergiveup wrote:
Yup, gonna take more than a shot of penicillin to fix what they caught.
Let’s send the union members to Somalia…
@ Nevergiveup:
Do you have any linkage?
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Ya know I don’t mind so much the great bennies public servants get or in the teacher’s cases the 4 months of vacation. What I resent is their attitude that, that is their G-D given right and that while everyone else is suffering they are suppose to be immune.
lobo91 wrote:
And the Democrats? with BBQ sauce?
Comparing the private sector & the public sector
is like apples and unicorns.
Public sector employees can get legislative protection,
they do not need collective bargining.
When they make outrageous demands, they are
advocating a tax increase.
Formercorpsman wrote:
Just reports on FOX TV news that every regulatory agency in Wisconsin that can is looking into what they did. Shit If i got caught doing that here in NJ, I’d lose my liscence
doriangrey wrote:
I figure the easiest solution to the pirate deal is to let them be organized by SEIU.
They’ll never actually capture any more ships…
Even though my husbands former union is now infested with politically left leaning fools,they always gave back when the small city was having tough times,including extending their contract for a couple of years without a raise or a fuss.The bennies were decent,pay ok if you did enough OT,not top of the line,plenty of co-pay. Unlike the state unions,who richly deserve a Walker treatment.
Formercorpsman wrote:
You didn’t ask me, but here…
Its time to deploy the national guard and keep out the criminals, dealers and lowlifes that are pouring over our borders.
But enough about Democratic legislators fleeing to Illinois…
RIX wrote:
More importantly, they dont actually have to perform to keep their jobs. Public service is not a meritocracy, they can be as crappy as they want and still keep their jobs. That just isn’t fair.
@ Nevergiveup:
You just described CT state workers. If half of them disappeared tomorrow no one would notice. Lot of dead weight.
Bob in Breckenridge wrote:
thanks
@ song_and_dance_man:
Hello there S&DM…haven’t seen you lately.
@ doriangrey:
Lot of worker comp fraud where my hubby worked. Disgusting,we know one scrunt who built a new home on his fake injuries.
lobo91 wrote:
ROTFLMAO… So true… OK BBIAB, time to go fetch the munchkin…
Boys and girls, it just doesn’t get any better than this…
Paychecks Withheld for the Wisconsin 14
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260414/paychecks-withheld-wisconsin-14-robert-costa
I think I blew beer out my nose. Heh.
Hat tip -- RD at GCP
vagabond trader wrote:
A story as old as time
Organizing for Somalia ™
@ Mike C.:
Yaaaaay! Hang tough Governor Walker!
@ Bob in Breckenridge:
That’s how you do it.
@ Nevergiveup:
Without a doubt. In addition to all the clinical stuff I do, I also have gotten stuck with the disibility crap because the other staff in the office do not fill it out properly.
Anyway, being familiar with that stuff, they are knowingly defrauding the State government. That is probably the biggest no-no. Add to that, contractual obligations to other insurance companies, whether or not the fraud was perpetrated against them, a big no-no.
I would venture to say, most of the “physicians” doing this were probably institutional, simply because most physicians I know, are solidly fiscal conservatives to begin with.
They need to run this up the flagpole.
Mike C. wrote:
W00t w00t go Gov. Walker…
@ Mike C.:
Good!
Mike C. wrote:
What about the teachers that didn’t show /aren’t showing for work?
Nevergiveup wrote:
Hopefully they all find themselves unemployed…
Nevergiveup wrote:
It is a real pain in the butt when I try to tell people our state employees are good people who work hard. (Some of them for very small salaries and in difficult jobs). People see the pampered and spoiled pets in Wisconsin and assume all government employees are like what they see there.
Even in our state the teachers get treated better than others with similar education and tenure. While the rest of us went without raises and took furloughs our teachers were getting increases. WHen they were asked to take three furlough days they whined like babies pulled from a breast. (DFCS and Child Support voted to take 12 furlough days to save the jobs of their colleagues).
@ Nevergiveup:
Oh firefighters are world class at it,especially one particular female who could not be disciplined for fear of a lawsuit,which she filed and won just for pocket change.
Nevergiveup wrote:
No problem, I was just reading the article about 10 minutes ago.
@ Formercorpsman:
From what I heard, they mostly seem to be from some university hospital.
@ lobo91:
There you go.
Getting caught fucking 13 year old boys. That goes for both the male and female teachers. A kid of mine would never darken the door of a public school. They may not all be failures, but they are close enough to it for me not to take the luck of the draw.
lobo91 wrote:
Probably, I mean real working Docs, well gotta work and would not have time to hang out and waste time like that.
@ Nevergiveup:
Right.
You know,speaking of public workers,we’ve had a he11uva winter and many towns have overrun their snow removal budget. Funny how our dinky little redneck town all the snots make fun of is in fine fiscal shape and the roads are always fine.
vagabond trader wrote:
I remember when the Phoenix FD was sued because the vast majority of female firefighter applicants could not pass the strength test, which involved carrying fire hoses up a few flights of stairs, so they had to lower the standards for women. Political correctness run Amok if you axe me.
Well Beck is going off on the Unions and the Dnc/Obama for what’s going on.
@ lobo91:
A report that I heard this morning said the
University of Wisconsin Medical Center at
Madison, which would figure.
@ Bob in Breckenridge:
Yeah ours went through that with women and minorities.Equal but seperate qualifications.That one woman got a free ride for 20 years.
@ RIX:
Same state payroll and benefits plan as the teachers, probably.
@ Bob in Breckenridge:
I’m glad the Army and Marines have successfully resisted crap like that, at least so far.
There are some jobs that women are simply not strong enough to do, and they need to quit pretending otherwise. Maybe one woman in 1,000 is capable of dragging an injured crew member out of a tank, or carrying 155mm artillery shells.
Michael Izbicki, a US Naval officer on active duty at the Groton naval base has applied for the release of his duties on religious grounds as a conscientious objector. He has been twice refused, however, this third time a lawsuit filed on his behalf by the ACLU-CT has help him win his release. Izbicki, whose Christian convictions preclude his participation in war, is currently living at the Saint Francis House in New London. A Naval Academy graduate in May of 2008. “Id like to take what I learned in the navy and help make the world a better place, through peaceful means,” he says of his future plans. (Richard Messina, Hartford Courant / February 22, 2011
Unfuckenbelievable????
Union Behind Wisconsin Protests Spent $87.5 Million on Dem Candidates in 2010 Midterm Elections, Largest Outside Spender…
Please pardon my link at #50. I am having a crisis.
@ Bob in Breckenridge:
Come on, that is just like women in combat. Both the enemy in combat and fire itself will accomodate the female who isn’t physically capable of doing what her male collegues can…
(For women in combat, that can be a death sentance, but the PC gods don’t care about that. The more women that die in combat, the happier they are. The theory is that American will be less willing to see women come home in body bags, so they won’t fight wars with women on the front lines. And you ladies thought it was about equality? After Clinton you still believe that pickup line?)
snowcrash wrote:
That would be my guess.
NoThreat2U wrote:
I cleaned it up for you.
Well, possible beatings, and knife and gunshot wounds, not only from the ever-younger violent students, but from feral parents annoyed that little Buffy or Tiffany or Shaniqua have been left back.
Part of this is because teachers have no ability to punish any more, so they are sitting ducks for any student retaliation whether physical or procedural. Part of this is because parents have abdicated their responsibilities and hold the teacher responsible for doing what parents should do without giving them the necessary power or backup.
@ Nevergiveup:
Gee,sounds like a perfect choice as an an aide to Mullens or maybe instruct on sensitivity issues.
@ lobo91:
I know at least two of those “1 in a 1000″ women from my college days. I would never be anything but very polite to them even if I was armed, because they could disassemble me without breaking a sweat.
@ lobo91:
Thank you kindly.
@ Nevergiveup:
Uh huh, but he accepted the fine education at
the Naval Academy. But now he has qualms?
RIX wrote:
He will have to pay that back. Wait till he sees the bill. I bet he chokes on it
Paralyzed Marine paired with service dog
Golden retriever has thousands of Facebook friends through Milk-Bone ad campaign that chronicled his training
Nice story
@ Nevergiveup:
1) He doesn’t understand the Bible or missed several chapters in it if he thinks it justifies objection to war.
2) He was billeted and got his education paid for by the Naval Academy. He needs to pay back more than his tuition.
In an all volunteer service there is no excuse for being a conscientious objector.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
The Sisters of the Sacred Heart at St.Thomas Moore operated under slightly different ROEs -- and I still have the scars to prove it.
Nevergiveup wrote:
…or readjusts his conscience?
NoThreat2U wrote:
ROTFLMAO… Having are crisis or are a crisis?
Mike C. wrote:
No doubt. But forty years plus of PC has left the public school teacher in clay-pigeon status.
Of course, given the power the unions have over the school system, I suspect that there is some way in which this serves the teachers—because they certainly have the power to alter it.
@ doriangrey:
I have been having spontaneous nosebleeds lately. Losing a ton of blood each time. Trying to eat something now because I can’t really see straight. Sitting here talkin to yinz to avoid going horizontal. So that would count as having a crisis
@ Nevergiveup:
I would guess that, that bill would choke a horse.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Those who can’t do, teach. You know, it occurred to me that they would likely never hire someone for Football coach who had never played the game, say someone in a wheelchair all of their life. No one would raise eyebrows at that, but they will hire math teachers who didn’t major in math, who have, in fct minimal education in math at all. That is analogous, as the man in the wheelchair (or woman) may know the plays or some of the plays, but has never done it. Just a thought.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
The solution to that is simple, return
corporalcapital punishment to school officials…NoThreat2U wrote:
As long as you’re being spontaneous…
I’ve taught in public schools. I’ve also spent 20+ years leading boy scouts with fire, knives and no ritalin.
Outside of combat areas (inner city gangs) most teachers are not under any threat from students. They are professionals like any other white collar job and they can deal with the marketplace like any other employee.
@ NoThreat2U:
Why don’t you get to an emergency room?
@ NoThreat2U:
Been doing other things. Learning new software.
Dorian I upgraded to the latest Sonar. The one I had been using had problems and they pulled it off the market and quit making patches. At least they gave me a good discount for the upgrade and the trouble.
Nevergiveup wrote:
I hated the Soviet Union the most.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Pretty much counts as being a crisis as well…
<—-passes NT2U a tampon for her nose… 
song_and_dance_man wrote:
So, ya got anything to show us yet?
vagabond trader wrote:
If Walker hangs tough and wins this,then I think the equation for nominees might change for 2012.
doriangrey wrote:
That makes more sense than what I was thinking. (Hot soldering iron to the offending blood vessels).
Don’t try this at home. It was a passing crazy thought.
@ Speranza:
I dunno man, I think the Teachers’ Union has done more damage to America. Jus’ sayin’…
Bureaucat wrote:
I’m sure that’s raaaaaaaaaaacist, somehow. If I were all proggified, I could tell you how.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Yeah when the mood strikes I just poor blood from my nose. lol
@ RIX:
It passes. Eventually. Too groggy to drive up there anyway. I will just eat something with iron in it. That makes me feel a little better.
@ doriangrey:
I sure hope I don’t trip over the string hanging out of my nose. lol lol
Bureaucat wrote:
I have subtaught on and off for over 20 years and at least 1/3rd of the teachers I met could not stand their students,the other third were counting the days until retirement and the other third were dedicated professionals.
@ doriangrey:
Not yet. It’s been on and off since I started doing this again, and going slower than expected.
bbl. I have to cook and all that.
Iron Fist wrote:
Most of them all they care about is more time off, more money, and higher pensions.
@ NoThreat2U:
If that works, just be careful.
@ Bureaucat:
Someone just told me to snort iron shavings. lol lol
NoThreat2U wrote:
Or super glue…
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Jest call me cracker!
Bureaucat wrote:
@ RIX:
I’ll live. I try to ignore it because it freaks my daughter out when it happens.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Heh most of them are liberals and they can just blame it all on “society”.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Or, stuff your nostrils with steel wool…
///
Speranza wrote:
I blame it on the bossa nova, and its magic spell. And Bush, naturally.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
And dont forget to upload the video to youtube…
NoThreat2U wrote:
Seriously get some water in your system too. A hamburger cooked in an iron skillet may be just what the doctor ordered.
If you don’t stop please do get some medical attention. My Dad eventually had to get his cauterized by a ENT specialist.
Update on the Christchurch quake.
Specialist rescue teams have been working through the night extracting survivors. The Aussies have arrived last night from New South Wales and a Queensland specialist Rescue team is due at lunchtime. So far 75 confirmed dead and now 300 unaccounted for. Over 130 have so far been found alive and have been rescued. 5 minutes ago the NZ Fire Service found 15 survivors buried in a pocket of a pancaked highrise office block. They have put out most of the fires but have had to be careful lest survivors drown in pooling water from firehoses. At the moment there are 8 specialist quake rescue teams working 24/7.
Two great stories. The large group of tourists thought to have been inside the Christchurch Cathedral spire when it fell are confirmed safe. Only two dead in the spire collapse and they were a couple who stayed behind to take photos after the rest of their party had left.
Specialist rescue teams from Japan have been promised and a team from Taiwan are due to land in Christchurch this afternoon. Though Port Lyttleton was completely destroyed there miraculously have been no deaths. It appears that the current death toll will rise as over 300 are now listed as missing, however the search and rescue teams are finding survivors and they have the expertise and equipment available to extract them.
In a parallel story a group of tourists had just returned from visiting the walls of ice at the base of the Tasman glacier. 3 million tons of ice fell into the glacial lake due to the earthquake and the boat the tourists were on found that they were surfing a 10 foot wave. Fortunately the skipper of the boat was good enough to keep the craft straight and the tourists had a very fast trip back to what was left of the jetty at the end of the lake. None the worse for wear but with some pretty tall stories about surfing off a glacier icefall.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I blame the bossa nova, and its magic spell on Bush, cause ya just know he’s responsible…
@ Aussie Infidel:
and where is Helen Clark? Oh yeah that’s right -- she works for the U.N. now.
@ doriangrey:
Throw in the neocons, Halliburton, Cheney, Ron Paul and the tea party and you’ve got all bases covered.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Now that is going to be one hell of a vacation story to beat…
Speranza wrote:
Don’t forget Glenn Beck, and the governor of Wisconsin…
@ Speranza:
If Walker does beat the union here the dominos
will fall, Ohio, Indiana, etc, etc.
The Union leaders know this & that is why
they are hysterical. The only growth for unions
is in the public sector.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Only two lol’s?
You’re awesome.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Yeeeeoooowwwwww!!
@ doriangrey:
Of course, just for your entertainment only. lol
@ Bureaucat:
I will keep monitoring it. Start keeping track of when it happens. Sometimes it happens when I am regurgitating. lol That’s always fun to watch. lol
New DOD.
Chuck accuses Bachmann of having no class
Iron ? Eat spinach. Or a real ME-style taboulli, which is mostly parsley. Both very high in iron. Good stuff, and tasty.
Oh, and have a steak on the side.
Speranza wrote:
And if we can work the bilderbergs and the illuminaughty in…..
@ Prebanned:
I’m hardcore like that. Now I am just feeling silly. Excuse anything I may post. I am not responsible for my behavior. lol
RIX wrote:
Somebody put the “Ding dong the witch is dead” music in the cue just in case… “twisted:
Rodan wrote:
Coming for that fat, cheetos eating, slob -- that is funny.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Just be careful.
@ Iron Fist:
@ NoThreat2U:
@ Prebanned:
@ RIX:
@ lobo91:
@ Speranza:
The Unions are now protesting outside Fox News.
@ Mike C.:
Having spinach salad. That should make me feel normal. Or as normal as I can be.
NoThreat2U wrote:
ROTFLMAO… yea, so what else is new…
@ Nevergiveup:
He should be reassigned to a non combat role, like hospital work or Chaplaincy. Was he always a Quaker?
NoThreat2U wrote:
Sweet, where is Grimcargo? We will get you fixed up.
Rodan wrote:
Why, they want to meet Julie Banderas? She is taken.
@ RIX:
I will be careful.
@ Rodan:
Ahh, we have got them in one place.
Speranza wrote:
Somebody needs to go to Urban dictionary and add a new entry for Irony… Charles Johnson accusing anyone of having no class…
@ doriangrey:
If the unions lose, that pretty much is a DefCon 1
disaster for them.
snowcrash wrote:
No, he only started quaking in his boot’s when he learned even Naval officers sometimes get killed in wars.
NoThreat2U wrote:
We will know you passed out and dropped the turtle on the keyboard if we see.
H……………………E……………………L………………P
Guess who said the following…
@ doriangrey:
Hey I usually take responsibility for any stupid shit I post. lol lol lol
@ Prebanned:
He’d probably faint at the sight of blood.
@ Rodan:
They hate it when someone shines a light on them.
Sort of like roaches…
//No offense to any actual roaches reading this…
Rodan wrote:
Do these people have real jobs?!
RIX wrote:
If the teachers unions loose it’s pretty much the death kneel of the American Marxist attempted coup…
snowcrash wrote:
He’s not a Buddhist? It would be appropriate, since he could contemplate his naval…
@ Bureaucat:
And you hear the *clunk* from my head hitting the desk. lol I am starting to feel a tad better now. Just had to wait for it to pass.
Bureaucat wrote:
No, they are public school teachers, if they had real jobs the democrats would be an extinct party.
Rodan wrote:
What is the hourly wage scale for slut shaming?
@ doriangrey:
Yeah, went back and read it all. He was a Baptist first. He needs to repay that tuition. he can get his new Friends to help.
@ doriangrey:
If the Union bosses can’t deliver all of that public
sctor money to the Dems, very tough to run a campaign.
NoThreat2U wrote:
I feel for you babe, I’ve had a cold for the last two weeks that is threatening to kill me, it is just kicking my ass seven ways from sunday, hell I cant even hear out of my right ear because of the sinus congestion. I’ve been reduced to posting between naps…
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Texas GOP State Rep. Proposes Bill Allowing Law Enforcement to Dump Illegals at Offices of U.S. Senators or Congressmen…
@wz
RIX wrote:
Damned difficult to indoctrinate kids into Marxism when you dont control the curriculum anymore either.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Now that is just plain funny, pure Texas humor at it’s best…
Coal miners need a union, government workers do not.
@ NoThreat2U:
A record of who refuses to turn them over to ICE or who takes responsibility for returning them to the streets would be quite beneficial at election time.
@ Mike C.:
Awesome!
NoThreat2U wrote:
Whats going on?
@ Speranza:
Can’t safety issues be covered by OSHA, if that is a concern?
Howdy everyone!
This is a bit of a driveby post.
Idiot builder trenched through my cable TV/internet cable yesterday. No internet, no tv, no phone. I am posting from my cell phone.
I might get things resolved tomorrow if i am lucky.
Nothing much has been happening the last couple of days, so I’m not missing much am I?
@ doriangrey:
I have never had a bloody nose in my life until recently. No wonder I am cold all the time…I got thin blood and low blood pressure. lol lol
@ doriangrey:
I’d like to see it actually happen. That would be hilarious.
#67 Nothreat2u
I have been having spontaneous nosebleeds lately. Losing a ton of blood each time. Trying to eat something now because I can’t really see straight.
You need to get yourself to a doctor.
citizen_q wrote:
Nope, the world ended 21 minutes ago, were just sorting through the rubble trying to find some alcohol to celebrate the end of all our worries…
citizen_q wrote:
World Ends: Women, Minorities Hardest Hit!
snowcrash wrote:
It should be.
@ snowcrash:
Sometimes you gotta change your strategy I guess. They want them to be so welcome there, let them live with them.
@ Speranza:
Feeling funky from a bad nosebleed. It is passing now
@ Buckeye Abroad:
Not quite sure I wanna know what he may have to say. He may see all the spontaneous bruises on my too and give me some bad news. I will be fine. Thank you for your concern
@ NoThreat2U:
Glad to hear it is passing.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Yeah, a sudden change like that needs to get looked at by a doctor.
GO TO A DOCTOR!
Hows that for a sternly worded message?
@ Speranza:
Thank you
@ Prebanned:
Always had the thin blood and low blood pressure. The nosebleeds are something new, as are the bruises. Very stern indeed
I gotta roll, da bat phone ringed.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Oh dear…
Rollin’ rollin’ rollin’…….
citizen_q wrote:
You won the million dollar blogmocracy lottery. But you weren’t here to claim it so we gave it to the ACLU?
NoThreat2U wrote:
I’m not sure what you “too” is, but bruises on it cant be good…
@ doriangrey:
Lol!
Btw, blogging on a phone is sub-optimal.
Philip Daniel, who wrote that?
Philip_Daniel wrote:
Nancy Pelosi?
@ doriangrey:
That’s why it is freaking my daughter out. Kinda weird waking up everyday with a different spot black and blue. Oh well, it’ll work itself out. I am not concerned.
@ Iron Fist:
Lawrence O’Donnell?
Iron Fist wrote:
I was going to say Van Jones…
Eliana wrote:
Ain’t it just, though? It doesn’t affect spending, only collection of moneys, so it only requires a simple majority. Heh.
doriangrey wrote:
HITLER!
Highest Gas Prices in February Since 1990, Attributed to Libya Turmoil
What ain’t ya going to give Obama credit for this?
NoThreat2U wrote:
I’m with that. Also dump them at the house of people who hire them.
Arab League suspends Libya; minister defects
In response to fiery speech in which Gaddafi vowed to cling to power, US says will take ‘ appropriate steps’; Al-Jazeera says Libyan interior minister announced his support for ‘February 17 revolution’; official news agency says ‘brother leader told Berlusconi Libya is fine’
The same Arab league that never suspended Iran or Iraq?
From the Christchurch quake.
The Aussies from Queensland have arrived. That makes 10 SAR teams now active. Apparently there a USAR team in Christchurch as well from Operation Deepfreeze at Christchurch airport. All of the Deepfreeze support c-130s and c-171 s have been made available to NZ for hauling casualties north to Auckland for specialist treatment in a specialist spinal unit. at least 14 spinal cases have already been dispatched to Auckland on a Royal NZ Air Force c-130. 30 more NZ army medics have just arrived as well as 30 more army engineers with all of their kit. Medical teams from Christchurch A&E and army Medics are carrying out field amputations so that rescue teams can extract survivors from crushed buildings.
The Canterbury Television building that pancaked has at least 15 survivors trapped in an air pocket. Rescue teams from NZ and an Aussie crew from the New South Wales Fire Brigade specialist SAR team are trying to dig them out without collapsing what is left of the structure. The lift well is still on fire but the fire brigade is using minimal water so that the survivors are not drowned.
We are still a long way before we are out of the woods here.
@ Mike C.:
Now they’re on Soros’ payroll
@ Aussie Infidel:
Keep us updated. Is the US sending anything?
Well, back in the 50s maybe. Nowadays they have to worry about assaults. High school teachers face rape and murder. Nevertheless even police officers shouldn’t have collective bargaining, politicians just can’t be trusted not to sell out future generations for votes in the next election cycle.
@ Nevergiveup:
Well according to Castro, we are planning on invading Libya for their oil…kinda like we do all over the middle east. Didn’t you wonder why gas is free at the pump??
Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro says the US has no interest in seeing peace in Libya but is solely concerned with the country’s oil reserves.
Washington will not hesitate to order a Nato invasion of the oil-rich North African country, in “a matter of hours or a few days”.
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/02/22/comrade-castro-u-s-planning-to-invade-libya/
Nevergiveup wrote:
They haven’t held him responsible for any thing else he has done so why start now? Cant we take the torches and pitchforks to the Fifth Column Treasonous Media yet?
@ Rodan:
Why not? They could always use a second gardener or nanny.
I can understand Unions for Coal Miners, Steel workers and industries where people can be at risk. Unions for Government workers? That’s ridiculous, I have no sympathy for these leeches.
The Canadian family of a 13-month-old boy teetering on life support has defied a court order to remove the boy’s breathing tube and now are looking to an American hospital for what experts say would be a miracle recovery
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02/22/canadian-family-fights-babys-beathing-tube-place/#ixzz1EjVmUnGv
This is what’s coming down the pike of Obamacare isn’t killed here
@ NoThreat2U:
He’s actually not wrong about that part. If Libya didn’t have oil, nobody in the US would give much of a damn about them.
Washington’s been dead for a couple hundred years…
Rancher wrote:
Should the military have collection bargaining? Would the liberals go for that? Probably. They will support anything that makes our country and society weaker and lee free.
Nevergiveup wrote:
Will do.
The Operation Deepfreeze based at Christchurch for the past 40 years has C-130s and C-171s available for heavy lifting if required. There was also a USAR team from the base made available immediately. The US has offered specialist Search and Rescue teams and that offer has been accepted. The critical thing now is that the rescue clock is running. It’s almost 24 hours since the quake and we need teams on the ground within the next 24 hours.
The Aussies are here already, The Taiwanese SAR teams are in the air as we speak and there has been offers of help from the UK, (from the Royal Navy ship docked at Lyttleton port as well as SAR teams) No idea how long before the Brits show up yet. Japan (a Japanese / English language school was located in the Canterbury TV building that pancaked) has offered a specialist quake SAR team, , and teams offered from Thailand
@ father_of_10:
The Dutch military does.
It hasn’t kept them from being a major military power.
Oh, wait…
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Bureaucat wrote:
They have doctors that will give them excuses to miss work due to the stress created by the Republicans. Doctors that may be in trouble.
Operation Deepfreeze is the US support base for all of the American facilities on the ice in Antarctica, set up way back in the 1950s i think after the International Geophysical Year. There is a permanent US presence of about 400 personnel based at Deepfreeze over the southern summer and that number falls to about 40 during the winter.
@ lobo91:
But Castro is making the concern sound like we are planning an invasion and take over. That is my problem with what he had to say.
@ Mike C.:
Any word yet on wether the WI governor began implementing my list from earlier today ?
concealed carry, Castle & Stand Your Ground doctrines, repeal of the State Individual Income Tax, Greater restrictions on Eminent Domain, et al.
152. NoThreat2U
Not quite sure I wanna know what he may have to say. He may see all the spontaneous bruises on my too and give me some bad news. I will be fine.
You’re still posting here? Get off your ass and go to ER. From the previous posts it sounds like you have lost enough blood to make you delirous. Blood loss does that. Bruises as well?
Don’t let your fear paralyze you from taking appropriate action. Go see a doctor!
@ NoThreat2U:
I wish we would invade and annex Cuba.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Ah good, I was not sure what you were refering to. Thanks
Nevergiveup wrote:
Excatly right. The government should never ever be handed the power to demand a breathing tube be removed. This is up to the family ONLY.
Even the doctor’s here let that be in the hands of the family.
Should know because my mother-in-law was on a breathing machine and bascially was getting worse each day….the doctors did not take her off of it. They told us as a family what the out come of it was and it was the family who decided on whether she should be taken off.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
I am in no condition to drive my ass to the hospital. There is too much snow out there anyway. I will be fine. I just had to eat something nutritious. I will be calling the doctor tomorrow. I probably just need some simple bloodwork done and a really big vitamin supplement. Trust me, I am fine and will remain so.
@ Rodan:
You’re brutal. Always up for a good invasion. lol
Also, removing the Collective Bargaining privileges of the unions, via a separate bill not associated with any financial bill. This way the bill could pass into law with a simple majority vote, and not the 3/5s quorum.
Rodan wrote:
We can just send a bunch of people there, and then it will tip over, just like Guam…
NoThreat2U wrote:
Are you taking any anti-inflammatories? These cause bruising.
I know how you feel about not wanting to hear bad news…I have been very sick as of late too.
From my inbox:
@ lobo91:
I was listening to something on the history channel today about Guam and that was the first thing that popped into my head. lol lol lol
@ Lily:
I am not taking any meds actually. It is probably just some strange phase my body is going through. I am not that concerned at all. Just gotta know when to get off my feet so I don’t fall, and to catch the nosebleed before it makes a mess everywhere.
@ doriangrey:
@ Iron Fist:
@ father_of_10:
@ Speranza:
It was Adolf Hitler.
196. Lily
Hey Lily. Sorry to hear that. Hope you are feeling better soon.
193. NoThreat2U
I will be calling the doctor tomorrow.
I will stop with the mother hen role, but you were ruffling feathers back there.
Hope you are feeling better soon as well.
Good night all! It’s been an interesting week.
The socialistic quote I posted above was from a speech by Adolf Hitler.
@ Bumr50:
The very survival of their jobs? If they were that concerned about their jobs, they would be performing them right now. And there is that damn word too “extremists”. I get sick when I hear that word being used. It ranks up there with raaaaacist.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Availability of oil is a human rights issue; socialists either don’t get it, don’t care to get it, or do get it and don’t care, or even do get it and oppose it because “social justice” is just a ruse…
But, no, NATO probably will not invade the Jumhuriyyah of Libya.
@ NoThreat2U:
Nose bleeds and bruising? Ever had it before?
Vaseline in the nose because you said it was so cold up there which means dry air …
But you do need to check this out.
Hey I’m in the same boat….I haven’t been able to eat since Friday…something wrong with colon. Something bad…today I am testing chicken broth.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
Your concern is appreciated. Not to worry though, I never get sick, so I am sure this will pass. Probably just need some vitamins.
Bumr50 wrote:
The people of Wisconsin thought they could accomplish that with a little thing called Democracy. The anti-democracy riots with the full backing and actual help from Obama and the DNC is about the dumbest thing I’ve seen out of the left in my whole life. Isn’t it wonderful?
@ Bumr50:
Public sector’s unionized
AFL-CIO!
Their performance, it is despised
AFL-CIO!
With a strike strike here
And a strike strike there
Here a strike
There a strike
Better give ‘em what they like
Public sector’s unionized
AFL-CIO!
@ Philip_Daniel:
Heck no, no one is planning on invading Libya, That is what made Castro’s statement so stupid.
@ Lily:
Because of how it happens, I know it isn’t from the dry air. I hope the broth works for you. I know too what it is like not to be able to eat. That really sucks.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
Thanks buckeye. Very sick with colon and blood..and am very weak right now. My mom is in town and a nurse….it was either food poisoning or something else which I dare not to think about.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Only you could do that to a children’s song. lol
Philip_Daniel wrote:
Try telling leftists that they are closer to National Socialism than the right and they haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. History isn’t usually taught today and when it is it’s been heavily revised.
@ NoThreat2U:
I understand…I know the difference from dry lining of the nose bleeds than something isn’t right. Yeah you need to go to the doc just like I do. And which I will do sooner or later. So far I am getting better a little bit each day. But I already know what type tests I’ll have to go through. Right now very afraid of food.
So far the broth hasn’t stirred anything up …. yet.
Unionized Collectivist Meuhnbahtsz wrote:
@ Lily:
Hang in there and keep trying the broth. I hope you feel better soon
NoThreat2U wrote:
Thanks
! And I hope you start to feel better soon too, I have always had problems with my colon but this time….something wasn’t right at all.
@ Philip_Daniel:
That should come with a warning.
@ Lily:
I have been having tummy issues for quite some time myself. I swear I haven’t eaten a full meal in two years. Today I ate a single piece of pizza and it was just too heavy in my gut. I had to toss it back up. That is when the bleeding started this time. But sometimes it bleeds just if I put my head down.
Rancher wrote:
I was referring to elementary school, not middle school or high school.
@ NoThreat2U:
Oh dear….looks like I’m not the only one that needs to eat broth.
With me I cannot eat anything heavy at all. My colon is so horrible and painful.
Have had many tests….they can’t figure it out.
@ Lily:
I suspect hiatal hernia, as does my family doctor. Just gotta get to the gastro to be sure.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Their vacations, raises, and pensions are what they care about.
@ Speranza:
Exactly!! No one is trying to take their jobs. Just asking them to cut back like everyone else has to do. That is why I do not support their cause. I have a friend who is a schoolteach who posted some shit about standing with the WI teachers. I just kept my mouth shut. Not worth arguing with someone I have know since kindergarten.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Just tell the Wisconsin workers that their jobs have been outsourced to India or China. Then no one will care about them anymore.
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Speranza wrote:
So am I.
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