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Rolling Stone is a Seditious Rag

by 1389AD ( 188 Comments › )
Filed under Afghanistan, Barack Obama, Iraq, Islam, Leftist-Islamic Alliance, Media, Military, Sharia (Islamic Law), Tranzis at March 1st, 2011 - 2:00 pm

First of all…

It is long past time for us to decide exactly what we are fighting for in Afghanistan. And when it comes to that, the infamous lefty rag, Rolling Stone, does all it can to add to the confusion.

Awhile back, Rolling Stone caused a major brouhaha by exposing the internal dissention between Gen. McChrystal and the Obama Administration regarding the war in Afghanistan. Though the problems were real, the intent of Rolling Stone was to undermine our military and thereby help our enemies.

To give the devil his due, the US was, and is, on a self-defeating path. I would be the first to admit that I am no fan of the way in which the war in Afghanistan is being fought. The difference is that Rolling Stone wants the US, and Judaeo-Christian civilization, to lose the war against the jihad, while I want us to win.

I am fundamentally opposed to the Wilsonian pipe-dream of “nation-building.” No country can bestow give liberty and a functioning civil society to anyone else; they have to be earned, and they can never be earned by a predominantly Muslim population. That is because Islam is not a religion in the sense that we understand it, but rather, it is an expansionist, enemy, totalitarian political philosophy that requires perpetual warfare against unbelievers, and that seeks to rid the world of everything but itself. Any people espousing Islam cannot govern themselves without bringing in a totalitarian system of shari’a law. They regard it as sinful to do otherwise. Enacting this as part of a new constitution simply sets it in stone. The new constitutions enacted under US hegemony in both Afghanistan and Iraq are specifically Islamic and implement shari’a law. Why did we send our troops to fight for this?

The purpose of warfare is to defeat enemies so that they cannot and will not do us any further harm. It will always be beyond our power as a nation to turn foreign evildoers into decent human beings.

The current US “rules of engagement” (ROE) are nothing short of suicidal. It makes no sense to run what amounts to a day care center for our enemies who are stuck in a mindset that reflects the worst that the seventh century has to offer. Our enemies (including those who are supposedly “civilian”) do not play by any rules whatsoever, while our side is hogtied by rules that make it impossible to retaliate effectively or even to protect our own troops from enemy attack.

Rolling Stone beclowns itself again

Rolling Stone has made one more attempt to undermine and smear the US military in Afghanistan. But it turns out that they believed an ex-officer who is, to put it bluntly, an openly adulterous, self-promoting, and disloyal ignoramus. So now Rolling Stone has egg on its face.

Big Peace: Psyops on Senators in Afghanistan? Not Hardly

Posted by Jim Hanson Feb 28th 2011 at 4:34 am

…Rolling Stone is out hunting for Generals again and they have found a willing dupe in LTC Michael Holmes. Although calling him a dupe is unfair, he is a willing participant in this grotesque farce. Let’s tee this up in case you missed it. He claims that while on the staff of LTG Caldwell in Afghanistan he was tasked with coming up with ways to influence the opinions of visiting Senators. Seriously, that’s it. The massive outcry from the media was over something that anyone with an above room temperature IQ, including the Senators, knew happens all the time. The problem is that Holmes’ IQ is well below room temperature.

Before we explore the sad little world of LTC Holmes let’s remember that Michael Hastings, the Rolling Stone Jackwagon, also wrote the hit piece that took down Stan McChrystal…

Back now to Holmes. He pitched this story to a newspaper or two, but couldn’t get them to bite. But he threw it at Rolling Stone and it stuck to their wall and obviously fit their agenda. Sadly keeping their rag afloat with tabloid level journalism is their only real option. So we have this spy movie sounding scenario where our Generals are plotting a la Dr. Strangelove and using psychological operations against visiting Senators. The reason they can conjure up this fiendish plot is because of a lack of understanding about Psy Ops, which is one part of Information Operations (IO) and the separate field of Public Affairs (PA). The simplest explanation is IO works to affect the enemy and the theater of operations and PA tells our stories to Americans and the press. Holmes was part of the IO staff and so normally he would have been working on information aimed at the enemy. But the mission he was part of on LTG Caldwell’s staff was to train the Afghan Army, so there was no need for IO operations. Consequently LTC Holmes was given a new assignment, part of which involved helping influence the opinions of visiting Senators.

…Holmes was sent home from Afghanistan in disgrace for multiple violations of orders and military law. Even worse, he was planning on cashing in on his experience with a civilian strategic communications company he had formed with a female officer who worked directly for him. That cunning plan crashed and burned when he and this officer, MAJ Laural Levine, made such a public nuisance of their “inappropriate relationship” that it became common knowledge among the staff. In addition to that, they were regularly heading off base in civilian clothes and were either weaponless, had surrendered them to the restaurants they frequented, or worse had carried them concealed. The first two are offenses against the General Orders for Afghanistan, the last is a violation of the Laws of Land Warfare. If they had been captured while carrying concealed out on the town, they would have been unlawful combatants.

Now how did we find these things out? Well in addition to being as discrete as Lady Gaga, Holmes is also an ultra maroon (yes I just quoted Bugs Bunny). He posted photos of he and his “far-too-intimate-female-associate” on Facebook. Then they go ahead and flirt like Junior High Schoolers in the comments while discussing photos that show them violating their orders. That’s right, a guy and gal who think they are smart enough to advise the government and corporations on strategic communications, busted themselves out on Facebook…

Read it all.

The bottom line? Never trust Rolling Stone or anything you read in it.

What has been missing from public discourse so far are constructive suggestions about how we should address the very real Islamic threat from a political and military perspective. Counterjihad blogger Sultan Knish offers some excellent ideas:

Canada Free Press: A Fourth Approach to the Muslim World

By Daniel Greenfield – Thursday, July 22, 2010

…The Fourth Way is Accountability and it is simple enough. Stop arguing over who will rule in which Muslim country. That is a decision that only the inhabitants of that country can make. And they won’t make it through elections, so much as through dealmaking among their oligarchy, tribal leaders and occasional outbursts of armed force. It would take a massive project of decades to have any hope of changing that. But we don’t need to. What we need to do is make very clear the consequences of attacking us to whoever is in charge.

Rather than trying to shape their behavior by shaping their political leadership, we can use a much more blunt instrument to unselectively shape all their leaders. A blunt instrument does not mean reconstruction. It doesn’t mean Marines ferrying electrical generators. It doesn’t mean nation building. It means that we will inflict massive devastation on any country that aids terrorists who attack us. If they insist on using medieval beliefs to murder us, we will bomb government buildings, roads, factories and power plants to reduce them back to a medieval state. We will not impose sanctions on them, we will simply take control of their natural resources and remove the native population from the area, as compensation for the expenses of the war.

Accountability means no more aid to tyrants or terrorists, and no grand democracy projects either. It means that we stop trying to pick a side, and just make it clear what happens when our side gets hurt. We gain energy independence and never look back. And when we’ve done that, the Muslim world will no longer be able to play America against Russia, against Asia and Europe. Instead it will suddenly find itself stuck with a predatory Russia looking for an energy monopoly, a booming China expanding into their part of the world, and no Pax Americana to protect them from either one.

America has provided the stability that kept many Muslim countries from imploding. It has protected others directly and indirectly from being conquered more times than anyone realizes. All the treachery and terrorism that has been carried out, has been done under an American umbrella. Now is the time to furl up the umbrella, and let the rain fall where it may.

It will be a cold day indeed, when Russia and China realize that they can do what they like in the Muslim world, without the US to stop them. And a colder day still, when European countries realize that there is nothing standing the way of deporting their insurgent Muslim populations, because the US will not lift a finger to protect them, as it did in Yugoslavia. That is accountability. And in both its active and passive forms it will exact a high price from the enemy, and none from us. To employ it, we must be prepared to use massive force casually without considering any collateral damage. We must achieve energy independence at any cost. And we must be prepared to realize that everything else we have tried has failed. Only by disengaging from the Muslim world, can we ever be free of it.

Daniel Greenfield is a New York City based writer and freelance commentator. “Daniel comments on political affairs with a special focus on the War on Terror and the rising threat to Western Civilization. He maintains a blog at Sultanknish.blogspot.com.

Daniel can be reached at: sultanknish@yahoo.com

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188 Responses to “Rolling Stone is a Seditious Rag”
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  1. Nevergiveup
    1 | March 1, 2011 2:16 pm

    There is no doubt “Rolling Stone” is a left wing rag and like all left wing weenies has no love for the Military. Read Columbia University. But Gen. McChrystal and his staff should have had their heads examined for letting Rolling Stone in the chicken coup and then trusting them.


  2. Speranza
    2 | March 1, 2011 2:17 pm

    Seditious? It is a left-wing rag which occasionally has some good music stories such as this
    Clapton, Beck and the Secrets of the Guitar

    Don’t give the magazine more power then it really has.


  3. Speranza
    3 | March 1, 2011 2:17 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    But Gen. McChrystal and his staff should have had their heads examined for letting Rolling Stone in the chicken coup and then trusting them.

    Quite concur!


  4. NoThreat2U
    4 | March 1, 2011 2:18 pm

    Just taking another dump on the US. But who does everyone call when they need something? THE US.


  5. vagabond trader
    5 | March 1, 2011 2:22 pm

    Why are we still actively assisting a primitive tribal sh*thole that executes apostates. I mean,like this is ever going to improve?


  6. vagabond trader
  7. lobo91
    7 | March 1, 2011 2:36 pm

    The reason they can conjure up this fiendish plot is because of a lack of understanding about Psy Ops, which is one part of Information Operations (IO) and the separate field of Public Affairs (PA). The simplest explanation is IO works to affect the enemy and the theater of operations and PA tells our stories to Americans and the press. Holmes was part of the IO staff and so normally he would have been working on information aimed at the enemy. But the mission he was part of on LTG Caldwell’s staff was to train the Afghan Army, so there was no need for IO operations.

    I’m afraid that whoever wrote this doesn’t have a good understanding of what IO is, either. Not surprising, since most people in the Army don’t, either.

    The IO cell functions as a clearinghouse for everything related to the information realm, in order to ensure that various entities aren’t working at cross-purposes. For example, they make sure that the messages sent out by the PAO don’t conflict with what the PsyOp people are doing. Unlike the Islamists, we try not to say one thing in English and the opposite in Arabic, because we understand that people can access both messages.

    Another thing the IO cell does is to make sure that the Electronic Warfare people aren’t jamming the frequencies the PsyOp people are trying to use to put out their message.

    The bottom line is that IO’s goal is to maximize the information we have, while simultaneously limiting (or shaping) the information the enemy has, with the goal of allowing us to get inside the enemy commander’s OODA loop.


  8. 8 | March 1, 2011 2:37 pm

    In 1975 Rolling Stone was sold to Hearst Publications. It is no where near what it used to be. That said, it is a lefty rag. Just like every other piece of s publication that belongs to the MSM. Time, Newsweek, New Yorker, what have you. The only difference, Rolling Stone tries its level best to read like it was written by 12 year olds.


  9. NoThreat2U
    9 | March 1, 2011 2:39 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:
    I think it is more suited for 17 year old pot heads.


  10. 10 | March 1, 2011 2:40 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    @ Speranza:
    @ Flyovercountry:
    @ lobo91:
    @ vagabond trader:

    I’ve had my suspicions of this.

    Financial terrorism suspected in 2008 economic crash

    “There is sufficient justification to question whether outside forces triggered, capitalized upon or magnified the economic difficulties of 2008,” the report says, explaining that those domestic economic factors would have caused a “normal downturn” but not the “near collapse” of the global economic system that took place.

    Suspects include financial enemies in Middle Eastern states, Islamic terrorists, hostile members of the Chinese military, or government and organized crime groups in Russia, Venezuela or Iran. Chinese military officials publicly have suggested using economic warfare against the U.S.

    In an interview with The Times, Mr. Freeman said his report provided enough theoretical evidence for an economic warfare attack that further forensic study was warranted.


  11. Speranza
    11 | March 1, 2011 2:41 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Flyovercountry:
    I think it is more suited for 17 year old pot heads.

    Or husky pony-tailed middle aged former jazz guitarists who still think it is 1973.


  12. m
    12 | March 1, 2011 2:42 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    The Palestinian activists are inspired by the calls for democracy that toppled autocratic leaders in Egypt and Tunisia and threaten longtime rulers in Libya and Bahrain.

    Inspired by the calls for democracy? WTF? They gotta be kidding. Howzat democracy thing working out in Gaza?


  13. NoThreat2U
    13 | March 1, 2011 2:43 pm

    @ Speranza:
    You sure hit that nail on the head :) I could never understand the allure of that stupid magazine anyway. Maybe because I never partook of the smokey smoke???


  14. m
    14 | March 1, 2011 2:44 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Ahh back when he was relevant. :roll:


  15. m
    15 | March 1, 2011 2:44 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Nah, that never helped me anyway. Still don’t dig’it.

    8O


  16. NoThreat2U
    16 | March 1, 2011 2:44 pm

    @ m:
    Honestly, don’t even try wrapping your head around that. I said it before and I stand by my words…..democracy doesn’t mean the same thing to them as it does to us.


  17. Speranza
    17 | March 1, 2011 2:44 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    You sure hit that nail on the head I could never understand the allure of that stupid magazine anyway. Maybe because I never partook of the smokey smoke???

    It is a self appointed “hip magazine of the counter culture”. It is as relevant and useful as black & white TV’s with no remote controls are these days.


  18. NoThreat2U
    18 | March 1, 2011 2:45 pm

    @ m:
    LOL Stoner. lol


  19. Speranza
    19 | March 1, 2011 2:45 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ m:
    Honestly, don’t even try wrapping your head around that. I said it before and I stand by my words…..democracy doesn’t mean the same thing to them as it does to us.

    That is true and freedom as we know it is not as they know it to be.


  20. NoThreat2U
    20 | March 1, 2011 2:46 pm

    @ Speranza:
    I always preferred the music magazine with the lyrics in them. RS was just….stoopid.


  21. Speranza
    21 | March 1, 2011 2:46 pm

    m wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Ahh back when he was relevant.

    He was relevant from 2002 -- 2006. Now he is an embittered, dishonest fool.


  22. chickadee
    22 | March 1, 2011 2:46 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Why are we still actively assisting a primitive tribal sh*thole that executes apostates. I mean,like this is ever going to improve?

    So true. I like Daniel Greenfield’s take on it. We need to disengage from these animals unless they cause us trouble. Then we take them out. Nothing we have done has made a tinker’s damns worth of difference in how they view us. islam has a strangled hold on them and they are going to have to solve that problem themselves or just stay the hell in the 7th century, pushing their luck until they are nuked.


  23. NoThreat2U
    23 | March 1, 2011 2:47 pm

    @ Speranza:
    They have a warped view of democracy and freedom. I could go on and on explaining the differences but I think we all know what they are.


  24. Speranza
    24 | March 1, 2011 2:47 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I always preferred the music magazine with the lyrics in them. RS was just….stoopid.

    Back in the mid 1960′s I recall them. You would get the lyrics for the new songs which was helpful because with the British sometimes you could not make out what they were singing.


  25. coldwarrior
    25 | March 1, 2011 2:48 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    @ Speranza:
    @ Flyovercountry:
    @ lobo91:
    @ vagabond trader:
    I’ve had my suspicions of this.
    Financial terrorism suspected in 2008 economic crash
    “There is sufficient justification to question whether outside forces triggered, capitalized upon or magnified the economic difficulties of 2008,” the report says, explaining that those domestic economic factors would have caused a “normal downturn” but not the “near collapse” of the global economic system that took place.
    Suspects include financial enemies in Middle Eastern states, Islamic terrorists, hostile members of the Chinese military, or government and organized crime groups in Russia, Venezuela or Iran. Chinese military officials publicly have suggested using economic warfare against the U.S.
    In an interview with The Times, Mr. Freeman said his report provided enough theoretical evidence for an economic warfare attack that further forensic study was warranted.

    hmmmmm…..


  26. Speranza
    26 | March 1, 2011 2:48 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    They have a warped view of democracy and freedom. I could go on and on explaining the differences but I think we all know what they are.

    Freedom means the ability to choose the type of repressive tyranny they want to live under.


  27. Speranza
    27 | March 1, 2011 2:49 pm

    @ chickadee:
    The Sultan Knish runs an excellent blog. His essays are terrific.


  28. 28 | March 1, 2011 2:49 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    @ Speranza:

    All of the above operate on about the same level. This is the depth of writing at Rolling Stone. If McCrystal was wrong about anything, it was in allowing anyone representing Rolling Stone access to anything other than a parking lot. and or a latrine.

    @ Rodan:

    I’ve had my suspicions about this as well, but to date, it is all theoretical. that collapse was a little more bizarre than most to be sure. thomas Sowell had an interesting perspective as well. I do believe that it is possible that our enemies saw the crash happening
    and decided to help it along where they could. Maybe they didn’t start the ball rolling, but did their part to make things worse and prevent recovery where possible.


  29. vagabond trader
    29 | March 1, 2011 2:50 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Dig a little deeper and that hole will lead right to the oval office. Guaranteed.


  30. NoThreat2U
    30 | March 1, 2011 2:51 pm

    @ Speranza:
    Freedom means the ability to choose the type of repressive tyranny they want to live under.

    You are absolutely right. They get the leader they want who will vilify the Big and Little Satan. They never do anything to improve their lot in life. They really are like sheep. How can such a culture still exist? According to the laws of nature and mankind, they should be gone from the earth by now.


  31. vagabond trader
    31 | March 1, 2011 2:51 pm

    @ chickadee:
    @ Speranza:

    He is one of my favorites,very insightful.


  32. Speranza
    32 | March 1, 2011 2:53 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    You are absolutely right. They get the leader they want who will vilify the Big and Little Satan. They never do anything to improve their lot in life. They really are like sheep. How can such a culture still exist? According to the laws of nature and mankind, they should be gone from the earth by now.

    The demonstrators in Libya are calling Moammar Gaddafi an Israeli spy. That tells you that they have their heads up their camels asses.


  33. Speranza
    33 | March 1, 2011 2:54 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ chickadee:
    @ Speranza:
    He is one of my favorites,very insightful.

    He has great essays and is a terrific writer.


  34. vagabond trader
    34 | March 1, 2011 2:54 pm

    @ Speranza:

    It always comes back to the Jews doesn’t it. How tiresome.


  35. NoThreat2U
    35 | March 1, 2011 2:55 pm

    @ Speranza:
    Yeah yeah yeah…everyone is either and Israeli spy or American spy. It they weren’t so murderous, they could be comedians.


  36. Nevergiveup
    36 | March 1, 2011 2:55 pm

    Senate Dems agree to a 2 week spending bill with 2 bill in cuts? Puts off the possible shut-down of 2 weeks?


  37. Speranza
    37 | March 1, 2011 2:58 pm

    The New York Times just got better by default

    Frank Rich leaving the New York Times for New York Magazine

    Why anyone (outside of Arthur “Pinch” Sulzberger) thought that The Butcher of Broadway was quaiified to write on national and international affairs (instead of his usual eviscerating of Broadway Shows) is unfathomable.


  38. Speranza
    38 | March 1, 2011 3:00 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Yeah yeah yeah…everyone is either and Israeli spy or American spy. It they weren’t so murderous, they could be comedians.

    As I posted on an earlier thread today -- there are more Mossad agents out there then there are Israelis. lol.


  39. Speranza
    39 | March 1, 2011 3:00 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    It always comes back to the Jews doesn’t it. How tiresome.

    If God forbid there were no Jews left in the world, the world would have to invent them.


  40. vagabond trader
    40 | March 1, 2011 3:02 pm

    Don’t get me wrong,I feel for those,esp women,who want to get an education and make a better life for themselves but this naive fantasy just isn’t going to happen with a Talibanshee tribal mentality. Let converts come over here and any women who want freedom. The rest can,well……


  41. NoThreat2U
    41 | March 1, 2011 3:02 pm

    @ Speranza:
    As I posted on an earlier thread today – there are more Mossad agents out there then there are Israelis. lol.

    Of course I already knew that….being Mossad myself. ;) Can Catholic girls be Mossad?????? lol


  42. chickadee
    42 | March 1, 2011 3:03 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    It always comes back to the Jews doesn’t it. How tiresome.

    If God forbid there were no Jews left in the world, the world would have to invent them.

    The haters would just find someone else to kick around.


  43. Speranza
    43 | March 1, 2011 3:04 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Don’t get me wrong,I feel for those,esp women,who want to get an education and make a better life for themselves but this naive fantasy just isn’t going to happen with a Talibanshee tribal mentality. Let converts come over here and any women who want freedom. The rest can,well……

    Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Wafa Sultan agree with you, as do I.


  44. vagabond trader
    44 | March 1, 2011 3:05 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Speaking of that,after almost ten years in A-stan,aside from our troops the mfm and an occasional pol,are Jews and Christians allowed into that he11hole.Like for tourism ~shudder~ Not that I’d want to,just curious.


  45. Speranza
    45 | March 1, 2011 3:05 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    The haters would just find someone else to kick around.

    For some perverse reason, they always need Jews. See Charlie Sheen and that asshole from Christian Dior who just got fired today.


  46. Speranza
    46 | March 1, 2011 3:06 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Speaking of that,after almost ten years in A-stan,aside from our troops the mfm and an occasional pol,are Jews and Christians allowed into that he11hole.Like for tourism ~shudder~ Not that I’d want to,just curious.

    I dunno but I did read a couple of years ago abut the last Jew who lived in Afghanistan (Kabul). But then again it is Israel that practices apartheid right? /


  47. lobo91
    47 | March 1, 2011 3:07 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Speaking of that,after almost ten years in A-stan,aside from our troops the mfm and an occasional pol,are Jews and Christians allowed into that he11hole.Like for tourism ~shudder~ Not that I’d want to,just curious.

    I’m pretty sure they’ll let in anyone who wants to spend money.

    Once you get there, you’re on your own…


  48. 48 | March 1, 2011 3:08 pm

    ot

    She was standing in the kitchen, preparing our usual
    Soft-boiled eggs and toast for breakfast, wearing only
    The ‘T’ shirt that she normally slept in.
    As I walked in, almost awake, she turned to me and said
    Softly, “You’ve got to make love to me this very moment!”

    My eyes lit up and I thought, “I am either still dreaming
    Or this is going to be my lucky day!”
    Not wanting to lose the moment, I embraced her and then
    Gave it my all; right there on the kitchen table.

    Afterwards she said, “Thanks,” and returned to the stove,
    Her T-shirt still around her neck.

    Happy, but a little puzzled, I asked,
    “What was that all about?”

    She explained, “The egg timer’s broken.”


  49. Speranza
    49 | March 1, 2011 3:08 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    Of course I already knew that….being Mossad myself. ;) Can Catholic girls be Mossad?????? lol

    They sure can and I will contact you via the cellphone in my shoe heel (I am an agent too).


  50. vagabond trader
    50 | March 1, 2011 3:08 pm

    @ Speranza:

    As if we needed proof that lefturds are the most racist and bigoted sobs on the planet.


  51. Speranza
    51 | March 1, 2011 3:09 pm

    @ jimmytheclaw:
    Now that is funny!


  52. NoThreat2U
    52 | March 1, 2011 3:09 pm

    @ jimmytheclaw:
    I always loved your jokes. LMAO

    @ Speranza:
    Cool. I’ll be right here expecting your call. lol


  53. coldwarrior
    53 | March 1, 2011 3:09 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    As I posted on an earlier thread today – there are more Mossad agents out there then there are Israelis. lol.

    how did you know i was mossad?

    :lol:

    (now where did i put that check from the great zionist conspiracy…)


  54. Speranza
    54 | March 1, 2011 3:09 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    As if we needed proof that lefturds are the most racist and bigoted sobs on the planet.

    And insufferably sanctimonius.


  55. 55 | March 1, 2011 3:12 pm

    A little girl asked her father, “How did the human race appear?” The father answered,”God made Adam and Eve and they had children, and that’s how all mankind was made.”

    Two days later the girl asked her mother the same question. The mother answered, “Many years ago there were monkeys from which the human race evolved.” The confused girl returned to her father and said, ” Dad, how is it possible that you told me the human race was created by God, and Mom said they developed from monkeys?”

    The Father answered, “Well, dear, it is very simple. I told you about my side of the family and your mother told you about hers.”


  56. vagabond trader
    56 | March 1, 2011 3:12 pm

    Years ago I actually knew a guy who did “contract” work for Mossad back in the 50s and 60s. Great person and quite colorful. :-)


  57. chickadee
    57 | March 1, 2011 3:13 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Speranza:

    Speaking of that,after almost ten years in A-stan,aside from our troops the mfm and an occasional pol,are Jews and Christians allowed into that he11hole.Like for tourism ~shudder~ Not that I’d want to,just curious.

    That will be the fate of the whole m.e. Tourism, which made Egypt at lot of money, is dead. Who is going to risk their life going to these hellholes? If the mobro’s would even let them in.
    islam, doing what it does best . . . . bringing darkness.


  58. 58 | March 1, 2011 3:13 pm

    A guy calls his buddy, the horse rancher, and says he’s sending a friend over to look at a horse. His buddy asks, “How will I recognize him?” “That’s easy; he’s a midget with a speech impediment.” So, the midget shows up, and the guy asks him if he’s looking for a male or female horse. ;

    “A female horth.”

    So he shows him a prized filly.

    “Nith lookin horth. Can I thee her eyeth”?

    So the guy picks up the midget and he gives the horse’s eyes the once over.

    “Nith eyeth, can I thee her earzth”? So he picks the little fella up again, and shows him the horse’s ears.

    “Nith earzth, can I thee her mouf”?

    The rancher is getting pretty ticked off by this point, but he picks him up again and shows him the horse’s mouth.

    “Nice mouf, can I thee her twat”?

    Totally mad as fire at this point, the rancher grabs him under his arms and rams the midget’s head as far as he can up the horse’s fanny, pulls him out and slams him on the ground.

    The midget gets up, sputtering and coughing.

    “Perhapth I should rephrase that. Can I thee her wun awound a widdlebit”?


  59. NoThreat2U
    59 | March 1, 2011 3:14 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    You didn’t really think they believed you and I when we “watched football” or “cooked out” did you??? lol


  60. vagabond trader
    60 | March 1, 2011 3:14 pm

    @ jimmytheclaw:

    Sounds like a joke that would get you the stick over at BVoAF. :mrgreen:


  61. coldwarrior
    61 | March 1, 2011 3:14 pm

    excerpts from trump on the rush show today…trump was excellent!


  62. Speranza
    62 | March 1, 2011 3:16 pm

    @ jimmytheclaw:
    You are rolling!


  63. NoThreat2U
    63 | March 1, 2011 3:16 pm

    @ jimmytheclaw:
    Hahahahahahahaha Oh where is the blog’s resident cowboy for that one…………………

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


  64. coldwarrior
    64 | March 1, 2011 3:17 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    You didn’t really think they believed you and I when we “watched football” or “cooked out” did you??? lol

    :lol:

    i thought all of the bbq smoke would throw them off the trail…


  65. snowcrash
    65 | March 1, 2011 3:17 pm

    Justin Bieber is on the cover of Rolling Stone. Lol nuff said. Link to the picture in case you are wondering “what’s a Bieber?”
    http://amygrindhouse.com/justin-bieber-rolling-stone.html


  66. coldwarrior
    66 | March 1, 2011 3:18 pm

    @ jimmytheclaw:

    :lol:

    …two drink mimium! try the veal and dont forget to tip the waitress!


  67. NoThreat2U
    67 | March 1, 2011 3:18 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Nope, they are too smart for that.


  68. Speranza
    68 | March 1, 2011 3:19 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Years ago I actually knew a guy who did “contract” work for Mossad back in the 50s and 60s. Great person and quite colorful.

    I am suspicious of anyone who says they worked for Mossad. I feel that if they did work for Mossad they would never admit it, even to their nearest and dearest -- but I could b wrong.


  69. chickadee
    69 | March 1, 2011 3:20 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    chickadee wrote:

    The haters would just find someone else to kick around.

    For some perverse reason, they always need Jews. See Charlie Sheen and that asshole from Christian Dior who just got fired today.

    They’re despicable. Hope they end up on skid row, where they belong. They’re bums.


  70. Speranza
    70 | March 1, 2011 3:21 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    They’re despicable. Hope they end up on skid row, where they belong. They’re bums.

    In Sheen’s case -- sadly he might be dead soon enough. He is completely self destructive.


  71. 71 | March 1, 2011 3:23 pm

    thats all the email jokes for today

    if you want visit the non political blog i’m building techgorillas or the jobboard at careerflyers


  72. vagabond trader
    72 | March 1, 2011 3:23 pm

    @ Speranza:

    You’re wrong. He did a lot of munitions design work way back when.His best friend was a rebel during the Hungarian revolt,lost a leg to the commies. They were good bad guys :-)


  73. Speranza
    73 | March 1, 2011 3:25 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    You’re wrong. He did a lot of munitions design work way back when.His best friend was a rebel during the Hungarian revolt,lost a leg to the commies. They were good bad guys

    I stand corrected.


  74. chickadee
    74 | March 1, 2011 3:26 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    excerpts from trump on the rush show today…trump was excellent!

    He was good. (Make sure Rodan sees this.)

    Rush is going to have Trump back to give us his solutions to the problems he talked abt.


  75. Eliana
    75 | March 1, 2011 3:28 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I am suspicious of anyone who says they worked for Mossad. I feel that if they did work for Mossad they would never admit it, even to their nearest and dearest – but I could b wrong.

    Mossad teams usually have so many people that do things like surveillance and logistics that only one or two people out of a dozen actually do assassinations (when this is the operation).

    I think a lot of the work is mundane except for needing to leave the country in all directions immediately after an operation.


  76. coldwarrior
    76 | March 1, 2011 3:31 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    excerpts from trump on the rush show today…trump was excellent!

    He was good. (Make sure Rodan sees this.)
    Rush is going to have Trump back to give us his solutions to the problems he talked abt.

    already alerted rodan

    well, both of my parents out here in fly over country are ready to vote for trump after they watched his cpac speech.


  77. vagabond trader
    77 | March 1, 2011 3:34 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    @ chickadee:

    All well and good but if we did the tax threat on the Chicoms,how would we get around the tangle of enviro regulations to even restart our manufacturing base? Fix that obstacle and what are you going to pay Americans to make these cheaper goods? Chinese wages? Hello bigger and more powerful unions all over again. I can hear the Chinese saying “make our day”


  78. 78 | March 1, 2011 3:39 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    dont forget to tip the waitress!

    But run like hell when she hit’s the ground, she’s got a mean streak a mile wide… (Cow tipping joke)


  79. RIX
    79 | March 1, 2011 3:40 pm

    Ok, since we’re doing jokes.
    Three bloggers are on a plane, Charles, Kos & Sullivan.
    The pilot comes into the cabin with his parachute on
    “We are losing our engines, I’m out of here” & he jumps
    The three look at each other & Kos says “Three of us & t
    chutes. I think that I should get one because I host
    the Yearly kos”
    Andrew Sullian says “I should get one just cause I’m gay” Charles says “Forget it, I get one because I am the smartest,most influential blogger in the land.”He grabs a chute & jumps.
    Kos says “Andy, lets get the chutes & jump.”
    Sullivan is confused, “I thought that there was just one
    chute left”
    Kos laughed, “Nah the smartest , most influential blogger
    in the land just jumped out the door with my backpack.


  80. vagabond trader
    80 | March 1, 2011 3:41 pm

    Jews Jews,everywhere Jews

    It is reaching mental disorder status.


  81. 81 | March 1, 2011 3:42 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Yeah, I think one of the first lessons in spy 101 is….

    “KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, AND DON”T CALL ATTENTION TO YOURSELF.”

    I’m very suspicious of anyone claiming to be in the know in regards to the world of covert existences. It sounds more like a method to pick up chics than anything else.


  82. coldwarrior
    82 | March 1, 2011 3:42 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    china is playing games with their currency.

    as for unions in manufacturing, so what. they arent commies like the public sector unions, their rank and file will vote republican at least half the time. if it means putting americans back in decent manufacturing jobs and getting some more unions, fine by me, i want people to work and for us to make things here again. this service industry crap has destroyed us.

    the chinese (and everyone else) are cheating on every deal and on free trade. we have to get rid of regulations, put barriers up against the chinese until they let their currency float…something they signed on to do…the us is the most efficient nation on earth. i will gladly pay more for a quality made american good than a junk piece of chinese slave labor and have done so over and over again.

    when the audio comes out, listen to it and get back to me, you have to hear what his chinese business partners have said to him…they call us and our officials stupid and foolish.

    the audio is not up yet tho.


  83. coldwarrior
    83 | March 1, 2011 3:43 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    dont forget to tip the waitress!
    But run like hell when she hit’s the ground, she’s got a mean streak a mile wide… (Cow tipping joke)

    ya know, if we didnt have cows for waitresses, we could get more tables in here…

    :lol:


  84. vagabond trader
    84 | March 1, 2011 3:44 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    You forgot the enviro zealots and the politicians who are beholden to them.We are in a pickle,it ain’t going to be that simple.


  85. 85 | March 1, 2011 3:45 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Flyovercountry:
    I think it is more suited for 17 year old pot heads.

    17 year old pot heads read like 12 year olds. . . . if they’re lucky.


  86. Bureaucat
    86 | March 1, 2011 3:46 pm

    jimmytheclaw wrote:

    She explained, “The egg timer’s broken.”

    Funny? My wife did the same thing to me the last time she cooked a turkey.


  87. vagabond trader
    87 | March 1, 2011 3:46 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Never said he came right out and told me who what and where.I’m not exactly dumb and it had nothing to do with getting laid. You have no idea and thanks for calling me a liar.


  88. Da_Beerfreak
    88 | March 1, 2011 3:47 pm

    jimmytheclaw wrote:

    A little girl asked her father, “How did the human race appear?” The father answered,”God made Adam and Eve and they had children, and that’s how all mankind was made.”
    Two days later the girl asked her mother the same question. The mother answered, “Many years ago there were monkeys from which the human race evolved.” The confused girl returned to her father and said, ” Dad, how is it possible that you told me the human race was created by God, and Mom said they developed from monkeys?”
    The Father answered, “Well, dear, it is very simple. I told you about my side of the family and your mother told you about hers.”

    … And that Officer is how the fight started … :mrgreen:


  89. NoThreat2U
    89 | March 1, 2011 3:47 pm

    @ father_of_10:
    Well, yeah. lol Not much difference.


  90. NoThreat2U
    90 | March 1, 2011 3:48 pm

    @ Bureaucat:
    You wish! lol

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    I had a whole list of those around here somewhere…….


  91. 91 | March 1, 2011 3:48 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ vagabond trader:
    china is playing games with their currency.
    as for unions in manufacturing, so what. they arent commies like the public sector unions, their rank and file will vote republican at least half the time. if it means putting americans back in decent manufacturing jobs and getting some more unions, fine by me, i want people to work and for us to make things here again. this service industry crap has destroyed us.
    the chinese (and everyone else) are cheating on every deal and on free trade. we have to get rid of regulations, put barriers up against the chinese until they let their currency float…something they signed on to do…the us is the most efficient nation on earth. i will gladly pay more for a quality made american good than a junk piece of chinese slave labor and have done so over and over again.
    when the audio comes out, listen to it and get back to me, you have to hear what his chinese business partners have said to him…they call us and our officials stupid and foolish.
    the audio is not up yet tho.

    Hmmm, who told you this first… Some half crazy conspiracy theorist SoCal washed up Rock Star no doubt… :twisted:

    Was financial meltdown the result of economic terrorism?

    Pajamas Media gives an exclusive look at an analysis prepared for the Department of Defense’s Irregular Warfare Support Program (IWSP) by Cross Consulting and Services in 2009 that alleges that the economic meltdown in 2008 was no accident. Kevin Freeman argued that a run-up of speculation by sovereign-wealth funds created a bubble in the oil industry that allowed bear raids on American financial institutions, using credit swaps and other non-regulated investment instruments to crash the US financial system. Bill Gertz reported on the analysis today for the Washington Times:

    Evidence outlined in a Pentagon contractor report suggests that financial subversion carried out by unknown parties, such as terrorists or hostile nations, contributed to the 2008 economic crash by covertly using vulnerabilities in the U.S. financial system.

    The unclassified 2009 report “Economic Warfare: Risks and Responses” by financial analyst Kevin D. Freeman, a copy of which was obtained by The Washington Times, states that “a three-phased attack was planned and is in the process against the United States economy.”

    While economic analysts and a final report from the federal government’s Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission blame the crash on such economic factors as high-risk mortgage lending practices and poor federal regulation and supervision, the Pentagon contractor adds a new element: “outside forces,” a factor the commission did not examine.

    “There is sufficient justification to question whether outside forces triggered, capitalized upon or magnified the economic difficulties of 2008,” the report says, explaining that those domestic economic factors would have caused a “normal downturn” but not the “near collapse” of the global economic system that took place.


  92. coldwarrior
    92 | March 1, 2011 3:50 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    You forgot the enviro zealots and the politicians who are beholden to them.We are in a pickle,it ain’t going to be that simple.

    hell no it aint easy..gonna be a throw down over this. we gotta get back to manufacturing.

    if anything, trump is moving the discussion the right way, fix our messed up econ system.


  93. 93 | March 1, 2011 3:50 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    So true. I like Daniel Greenfield’s take on it. We need to disengage from these animals unless they cause us trouble. Then we take them out. Nothing we have done has made a tinker’s damns worth of difference in how they view us. islam has a strangled hold on them and they are going to have to solve that problem themselves or just stay the hell in the 7th century, pushing their luck until they are nuked.

    All I can say is Amen, Sistah! Savages will be savages. Until they give up that crazy cult of theirs, they’ll remain the turd-world losers. Yo, mohammedans: your worst enemy is your “god”.


  94. 94 | March 1, 2011 3:50 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    I never intented to call you a liar. I never even read the original comment to gain any kind of context. It was merely a commentary of people who openly claim to have worked for a covert organization. It meant nothing more than that. I appologize.


  95. m
    95 | March 1, 2011 3:50 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I thought it was TFK ~:)


  96. coldwarrior
    96 | March 1, 2011 3:51 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    under cover “half crazy conspiracy theorist SoCal washed up Rock Star”

    IF THAT REALLY IS WHO YOU ARE?

    :lol:


  97. Bureaucat
    97 | March 1, 2011 3:52 pm

    @ snowcrash:

    Justin Bieber -- On sex before marriage:

    ‘I don’t think you should have sex with anyone unless you love them,’ Bieber says. When asked if he believes in abstinence until marriage, Bieber, who is reportedly dating fellow teen star Selena Gomez, seems wary. ‘I think you should just wait for the person you’re…in love with.’

    Great advice to the kiddies so they can end up a single parent on assistance just like your mom.

    How many times is any teen “in love” before the age of 18?


  98. m
    98 | March 1, 2011 3:53 pm

    Berkeley to get Israeli studies institute

    I’d say they need it more than anyone.


  99. 99 | March 1, 2011 3:53 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    under cover “half crazy conspiracy theorist SoCal washed up Rock Star”
    IF THAT REALLY IS WHO YOU ARE?

    Oh hush up, you made me miscount my gold shekels… :twisted:


  100. 100 | March 1, 2011 3:54 pm

    @ Speranza:

    He’s a liar!


  101. NoThreat2U
    101 | March 1, 2011 3:54 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    I suspect he is Mossad too ;)


  102. NoThreat2U
    102 | March 1, 2011 3:55 pm

    @ Bureaucat:
    You expected real wisdom from a horny teenaged boy?


  103. m
    103 | March 1, 2011 3:55 pm

    Christian beliefs DO lose out to gay rights: Judges’ ruling against devout foster couple

    A Christian couple facing a foster parenting ban because of their views on homosexuality were told by a court yesterday that gay rights ‘should take precedence’ over their religious beliefs.

    Owen and Eunice Johns heard that their values could conflict with the local authority’s duty to ‘safeguard and promote the welfare’ of those in foster care.

    The grandparents have already fostered 15 children and were praised by social workers as ‘kind and hospitable people’ who ‘respond sensitively’ to youngsters.

    (hattip WrathofG-d)


  104. coldwarrior
    104 | March 1, 2011 3:55 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I suspect he is Mossad too

    i KNEW IT!!


  105. vagabond trader
    105 | March 1, 2011 3:56 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Believe me,I detest the way things have shaken out,hate Chinese crap. The environuts drove so many companies away,I don’t see them letting go anytime soon. Look,we have enough of our own natural resources to flip the ME off but we aren’t allowed.What started out as a bunch of earth day hippies picking up garbage has turned into a powerful quasi religion with millions of true believers being indoctrinated in our schools and the mfm.If Trump can break that unholy alliance I’ll vote for him.


  106. 106 | March 1, 2011 3:57 pm

    m wrote:

    Berkeley to get Israeli studies institute
    I’d say they need it more than anyone.

    What they need a new reason to protest and not go to classes?


  107. NoThreat2U
    107 | March 1, 2011 3:57 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    We are all Mossad now.


  108. m
    108 | March 1, 2011 3:57 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    No they need to learn about Israel. BIG TIME.


  109. coldwarrior
    109 | March 1, 2011 3:58 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    We are all Mossad now.

    ALL YOUR AGENTS ARE BELONG TO US!


  110. 110 | March 1, 2011 3:58 pm

    m wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    No they need to learn about Israel. BIG TIME.

    You assume that they are capable of learning… Helloieeeee it’s BERKELEY….


  111. 111 | March 1, 2011 3:59 pm

    @ Bureaucat:

    oh, I do so miss the days when I truly believed that love would be an adequate substitute for the ability to support myself and my family, it lasted until I was actually responsible for supporting myself. Bieber is lucky in that he has earned enough money that if he is smart, supporting himself and a family should not be an issue. He is unlucky in that he is an idiot beyond compare. I predict that within 15 years time, we will all be reading stories about how Bieber blew his entire fortune and is now working as a parking attendent somewhere.


  112. coldwarrior
    112 | March 1, 2011 3:59 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    his message IS resonating out here…i am seeing it with my own eyes.


  113. NoThreat2U
    113 | March 1, 2011 4:00 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Damn right. I can kill a man ten different ways before he even knows he’s dead.///


  114. RIX
    114 | March 1, 2011 4:00 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    as for unions in manufacturing, so what. they arent commies like the public sector unions, their rank and file will vote republican at least half the time. if it means putting americans back in decent manufacturing jobs and getting some more unions, fine by me, i want people to work and for us to make things here again. this service industry crap has destroyed us

    That’s just how well NAFTA worked, We lost a lot of
    manufacturing, but look how well it worked for Mexico.
    Their wages were raised so high that nobdy crosses the
    border illegaly.
    Nothing but happy tourists from Mexico coming here
    to spend scads of that NAFTA wealth.


  115. m
    115 | March 1, 2011 4:00 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I think some of them are. Even the tree peeps! LOL! But when the only view you ever hear is the Code Pink, Muslim Student’s Association view you’re bound to be skewed, lol.


  116. 116 | March 1, 2011 4:00 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ vagabond trader:
    his message IS resonating out here…i am seeing it with my own eyes.

    Then we are truly and genuinely doomed.


  117. NoThreat2U
    117 | March 1, 2011 4:01 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:
    My Mamma taught me that love don’t pay the bills ;)


  118. Bureaucat
    118 | March 1, 2011 4:01 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Bureaucat:
    You expected real wisdom from a horny teenaged boy?

    My teenagers know better (and they suffer from hormones just like Justin. Of course they don’t have millions of fans throwing themselves at their bods).


  119. 119 | March 1, 2011 4:02 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Damn right. I can kill a man ten different ways before he even knows he’s dead.///

    And I can bring him back to life (temporarily) seven different ways to interrogate him… :razz:


  120. NoThreat2U
    120 | March 1, 2011 4:02 pm

    How exciting…gotta go run and pay my bills. Yay! Now don’t be too excited for me. See yinz later :)


  121. vagabond trader
    121 | March 1, 2011 4:03 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Will keep an open mind.Anything is possible and one thing for certain, we must defeat this commie next year.


  122. coldwarrior
    122 | March 1, 2011 4:04 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ vagabond trader:
    his message IS resonating out here…i am seeing it with my own eyes.

    Then we are truly and genuinely doomed.

    gotta change back to a real economy based on real things and he is the sole candidate talking about that.

    this ‘service/information’ illusion of an economy aint working, and neither are 20% of the people.

    so lets go down with a fight at least.


  123. coldwarrior
    123 | March 1, 2011 4:05 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Will keep an open mind.Anything is possible and one thing for certain, we must defeat this commie next year.

    i am not anywhere commited to a candidate yet.

    i like where trump is talking tho.


  124. 124 | March 1, 2011 4:05 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    gotta change back to a real economy based on real things and he is the sole candidate talking about that.

    Bullshit, I posted a link yesterday to Sarah saying exactly that over a month ago.


  125. Nevergiveup
    125 | March 1, 2011 4:05 pm

    Some Republican from Utah on FOX making great sense about this crap about extending the deadline--he is against it


  126. Speranza
    126 | March 1, 2011 4:06 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Will keep an open mind.Anything is possible and one thing for certain, we must defeat this commie next year.

    Victory at all costs1 No moral victories where we lose but “make statements”. Show me a good loser, and I will show you a loser -see J.S. McCain.


  127. 127 | March 1, 2011 4:06 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Flyovercountry:
    My Mamma taught me that love don’t pay the bills

    I was a little dumber than that. For me, it took an empty fridge and loss of electricity. I’ve heard Bieber quoted a couple of times now, and I’m not impressed with his mental prowess. I am not sure why someone’s ability to sing Baby, Baby, Baby with decent pitch over and over again would make a person a good role model for others to follow. Beiber is a teen snot who fits the suit on stage so to speak. I would have written him off long ago, and then I realize he’w what, about 15 or so. I was pretty stupid at that age also.


  128. Speranza
    128 | March 1, 2011 4:06 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Some Republican from Utah on FOX making great sense about this crap about extending the deadline–he is against it

    Is that Jason Chaffetz?


  129. 129 | March 1, 2011 4:06 pm

    @ Speranza:

    You mean Carlos Esteves!

    :lol:


  130. Speranza
    130 | March 1, 2011 4:07 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    You mean Carlos Estves!

    Alex Jones’s buddy.


  131. coldwarrior
    131 | March 1, 2011 4:07 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    gotta change back to a real economy based on real things and he is the sole candidate talking about that.
    Bullshit, I posted a link yesterday to Sarah saying exactly that over a month ago.

    i see she is getting on board too, that good.

    no reason to swear at me.


  132. vagabond trader
    132 | March 1, 2011 4:07 pm

    @ Speranza:

    That has to be the goal to focus on. Get these scrunts outta here before it is too late! They can be defeated if we play it right.


  133. 133 | March 1, 2011 4:09 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    gotta change back to a real economy based on real things and he is the sole candidate talking about that.
    Bullshit, I posted a link yesterday to Sarah saying exactly that over a month ago.

    i see she is getting on board too, that good.
    no reason to swear at me.

    If by getting on board, you mean being there before Trump, then ok whatever.


  134. coldwarrior
    134 | March 1, 2011 4:11 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    doriangrey wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    gotta change back to a real economy based on real things and he is the sole candidate talking about that.
    Bullshit, I posted a link yesterday to Sarah saying exactly that over a month ago.
    i see she is getting on board too, that good.
    no reason to swear at me.

    If by getting on board, you mean being there before Trump, then ok whatever.

    well excuse me about making a mistake about the liturgy of saint palin.

    i shall re-read my scriptures


  135. 135 | March 1, 2011 4:14 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I have heard plenty of decent Candidates speaking intelligently about the economy. Cain, Daniels, Palin, Bolton, among them. This view that the world only consists of Romney, Huckabee, Gingrich, is laughable. No doubt, this is who the NYT wants us to put up to oust Obama.


  136. coldwarrior
    136 | March 1, 2011 4:14 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    i still vote for her if she’s the nominee, so there is no real argument from me.


  137. Bureaucat
    137 | March 1, 2011 4:14 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i shall re-read my scriptures

    [It is] better to dwell in the corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman and in a wide house. -- Proverbs 25:24


  138. 138 | March 1, 2011 4:15 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    doriangrey wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    gotta change back to a real economy based on real things and he is the sole candidate talking about that.
    Bullshit, I posted a link yesterday to Sarah saying exactly that over a month ago.
    i see she is getting on board too, that good.
    no reason to swear at me.
    If by getting on board, you mean being there before Trump, then ok whatever.

    well excuse me about making a mistake about the liturgy of saint palin.
    i shall re-read my scriptures

    How about reading about your boy Trump first, start with his 2008 presidential filing records, where he filed as a Liberal Democrat, or read his liberal Democrat platform. The man was a registered democrat for what 30 years, now all of a sudden he is a conservative republican? Yea, I dont think so.


  139. coldwarrior
    139 | March 1, 2011 4:17 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    How about reading about your boy Trump first,

    and you re-read my #123, he aint my boy.

    i am for none of them yet.


  140. Nevergiveup
    140 | March 1, 2011 4:17 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Some Republican from Utah on FOX making great sense about this crap about extending the deadline–he is against it

    Is that Jason Chaffetz?

    Yes it must have been


  141. coldwarrior
    141 | March 1, 2011 4:19 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    The man was a registered democrat for what 30 years, now all of a sudden he is a conservative republican?

    you just described my father and mother as well.

    shall i tell them that they are not welcome in the republican party?


  142. Nevergiveup
    142 | March 1, 2011 4:19 pm

    UN suspends Libya from human rights council
    Resolution adopted by consensus in the 192-nation UN General Assembly over violence by Libyan forces against protesters

    What a farce


  143. 143 | March 1, 2011 4:20 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Can you provide a link where Palin discussed having a real production based economy?

    Also, what is your take on Palin wanting a No Fly Zone over Libya, hence more military commitments at a time when we are broke and it’s the uS once again helping Muzzies?


  144. 144 | March 1, 2011 4:20 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    UN suspends Libya from human rights council
    Resolution adopted by consensus in the 192-nation UN General Assembly over violence by Libyan forces against protesters
    What a farce

    The UN is a farce!

    :lol:


  145. Nevergiveup
    145 | March 1, 2011 4:21 pm

    Clinton warns of Iranian efforts to fill ME power vacuum
    By HILARY LEILA KRIEGER, JPOST CORRESPONDENT
    03/01/2011 22:53

    US sec. of state says Obama needs to maintain aid and involvement in region to keep Tehran from succeeding, says “there’s an opportunity for Israel” in the changed landscape

    Fuck you bitch,. Israel has nothing to do with this. Like you had nothing to do with sex and bill after chelsea was born


  146. 146 | March 1, 2011 4:21 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    shall i tell them that they are not welcome in the republican party?

    If they weren’t your parents, would you vote for either of them as conservatives knowing full well that they aren’t? Go ahead, answer me that honestly.


  147. RIX
    147 | March 1, 2011 4:24 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:
    Obama really put the screws to Romney yesterday.
    He lauded him for RomneyCare in MA.
    He claims that it is almost excatly like his
    health reform plan.
    Any leading Republican candidate will use the clip
    against him in the primaries.


  148. 148 | March 1, 2011 4:24 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Can you provide a link where Palin discussed having a real production based economy?
    Also, what is your take on Palin wanting a No Fly Zone over Libya, hence more military commitments at a time when we are broke and it’s the uS once again helping Muzzies?

    1) I did that yesterday, you intentionally ignored the link.

    2) Hmm, we shoot down Muslim aircraft… I fail to see the problem with this, it’s good practice for our pilots.


  149. citizen_q
    149 | March 1, 2011 4:24 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Jews Jews,everywhere Jews
    It is reaching mental disorder status.

    And I had such a hard time finding a nice Jewish girl when I was dating.

    /


  150. 150 | March 1, 2011 4:24 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    didn’t Trump actually support Obama in 2008? I can’t quite remember, but I could have sworn that he was one of the moguls who said we needed the freshness of change.


  151. vagabond trader
    151 | March 1, 2011 4:25 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    You’d almost think to further isolate of Israel was part of the plan all along.But that would be crazy…..Wouldn’t it?


  152. 152 | March 1, 2011 4:26 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    didn’t Trump actually support Obama in 2008? I can’t quite remember, but I could have sworn that he was one of the moguls who said we needed the freshness of change.

    Yes he did.


  153. coldwarrior
    153 | March 1, 2011 4:26 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    shall i tell them that they are not welcome in the republican party?
    If they weren’t your parents, would you vote for either of them as conservatives knowing full well that they aren’t? Go ahead, answer me that honestly.

    in fact, they were dems for almost 40 years

    and yes i would vote for either.

    especially my mother…she makes this whole pack of wanna be nominees look like spineless RINOs


  154. Bureaucat
    154 | March 1, 2011 4:27 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    didn’t Trump actually support Obama in 2008? I can’t quite remember, but I could have sworn that he was one of the moguls who said we needed the freshness of change.

    He was probably discussing his latest marriage.


  155. citizen_q
    155 | March 1, 2011 4:29 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Maybe she was talking about a preemptive nuclear strike?

    Oh, and can you really blame bill for seeking greener pastures? I think willingly doing her would indicate latent homosexual tendencies. As to Chelsea, I wonder if a paternity test was ever done?


  156. coldwarrior
    156 | March 1, 2011 4:29 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Flyovercountry:
    Obama really put the screws to Romney yesterday.
    He lauded him for RomneyCare in MA.
    He claims that it is almost excatly like his
    health reform plan.
    Any leading Republican candidate will use the clip
    against him in the primaries.

    that is a kill shot


  157. citizen_q
    157 | March 1, 2011 4:29 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    Did I need a / ?


  158. coldwarrior
    158 | March 1, 2011 4:29 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    didn’t Trump actually support Obama in 2008? I can’t quite remember, but I could have sworn that he was one of the moguls who said we needed the freshness of change.

    i need links or its here say

    or was it this:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C447786%2C00.html


  159. Nevergiveup
    159 | March 1, 2011 4:30 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    You’d almost think to further isolate of Israel was part of the plan all along.But that would be crazy…..Wouldn’t it?

    If Obama ever gets re-elected -- G-D FORBID- Israel is in deep doodoo


  160. 160 | March 1, 2011 4:30 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    1) I did that yesterday, you intentionally ignored the link.

    I wasn’t around yesterday.

    2) Hmm, we shoot down Muslim aircraft… I fail to see the problem with this, it’s good practice for our pilots.

    Funny you were against getting involved in Libya, so as soon as Sarah wants us to get involved, now your’re with it.

    Libya is noone of our business and this shows Palin doesn’t realize this is abattle of 2 evils and we don’t have the money for this crap.


  161. Nevergiveup
    161 | March 1, 2011 4:32 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Maybe she was talking about a preemptive nuclear strike?

    Oh, and can you really blame bill for seeking greener pastures? I think willingly doing her would indicate latent homosexual tendencies. As to Chelsea, I wonder if a paternity test was ever done?

    Oh I don’t blame Bill. I understood why he needed that BJ in the Oval Office ( disagreed with the Location of course) but never understood his taste in women?


  162. coldwarrior
    162 | March 1, 2011 4:32 pm

    or is it trump endorses mccain

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/18/trump-endorses-mccain/

    Trump may have announced his endorsement last night, but he voted with his pocketbook months ago; campaign finance records show Trump, who has donated to McCain for years, and gave the legal maximum to the Arizona senator in May. The same month, the members of Trump’s family — wife Melania Knauss and children Donald Jr, Ivanka and Eric — also gave McCain the maximum individual donation allowed under federal campaign finance laws.


  163. vagabond trader
    163 | March 1, 2011 4:34 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    :lol:


  164. 164 | March 1, 2011 4:34 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    1) I did that yesterday, you intentionally ignored the link.
    I wasn’t around yesterday.
    2) Hmm, we shoot down Muslim aircraft… I fail to see the problem with this, it’s good practice for our pilots.
    Funny you were against getting involved in Libya, so as soon as Sarah wants us to get involved, now your’re with it.
    Libya is noone of our business and this shows Palin doesn’t realize this is abattle of 2 evils and we don’t have the money for this crap.

    I am against getting involved in Libya, the two ideas are not mutually exclusive though. Keep them fighting each other and do not allow either side to gain an advantage, pure Sun Tzu.


  165. vagabond trader
    165 | March 1, 2011 4:35 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    G-d WILL forbid it!


  166. citizen_q
    166 | March 1, 2011 4:36 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    but never understood his taste in women?

    That would be an interesting question to pose to him.


  167. 167 | March 1, 2011 4:36 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    or is it trump endorses mccain
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/18/trump-endorses-mccain/
    Trump may have announced his endorsement last night, but he voted with his pocketbook months ago; campaign finance records show Trump, who has donated to McCain for years, and gave the legal maximum to the Arizona senator in May. The same month, the members of Trump’s family — wife Melania Knauss and children Donald Jr, Ivanka and Eric — also gave McCain the maximum individual donation allowed under federal campaign finance laws.

    Same Donald Trump who gave Rahm Emanuel the maximum amount allowed by law. Hell Trump probably even donated the maximum legally allowed to Ron Paul.


  168. coldwarrior
    168 | March 1, 2011 4:36 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    You’d almost think to further isolate of Israel was part of the plan all along.But that would be crazy…..Wouldn’t it?

    If Obama ever gets re-elected – G-D FORBID- Israel is in deep doodoo

    hell if that happens, does israel need any mercenaries to help out?


  169. 169 | March 1, 2011 4:37 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    If they weren’t your parents, would you vote for either of them as conservatives knowing full well that they aren’t? Go ahead, answer me that honestly.

    I met Cold’s parents. I would vote for any one of them over Palin. They can answer questions at least and don’t get historical facts wrong.


  170. coldwarrior
    170 | March 1, 2011 4:38 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    wanna do business in chicago? give to the machine


  171. 171 | March 1, 2011 4:41 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I do not have a link, only vague memories. I am not an expert on who supported who.


  172. 172 | March 1, 2011 4:41 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Where are we going to get the money for this No Fly Zone?


  173. coldwarrior
    173 | March 1, 2011 4:41 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    the oly two i have a real problem with right now are huckster (more liberal as gov than clinton) and romney.

    other than that, i am all ears


  174. 174 | March 1, 2011 4:42 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Trump came out in support of McCain becasue he felt Obama wasn’t qualified. In teh primaries he was backing Rudy on the GOP side and hillary on the Democratic side.


  175. yenta-fada
    175 | March 1, 2011 4:42 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    The Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan was derelict in his duty to regulate derivatives and ‘take away the punchbowl’of low interest rates. The enemy within. Repealing Glass-Steagall under Clinton’s watch. Revolving doors between the Treasury and JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs. Just saying….there’s enough blame to go around.


  176. coldwarrior
    176 | March 1, 2011 4:44 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    yep, plenty of blame.

    its hard to kill something as large as the american economy. it takes real effort


  177. Speranza
    177 | March 1, 2011 4:46 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    I met Cold’s parents. I would vote for any one of them over Palin. They can answer questions at least and don’t get historical facts wrong.

    She is just not polling very well.She needs to go on Stephanapolous and Gregory on Sunday mornings and start showing how she has (or has not) improved from the Katie Couric and Charles Gibson fiascos of 2008, instead of hanging out on her Facebook account or spending time swatting batting practice pitches from Sean Hannity or Greta Van Sustern.


  178. RIX
    178 | March 1, 2011 4:48 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    that is a kill shot

    And you just know that it will be used. Romney would
    be well advised to get ou front & admit a really
    bad mistake. Instead he tap dances on it.


  179. coldwarrior
    179 | March 1, 2011 4:49 pm

    @ Speranza:

    ya know what, that is a great idea.


  180. 180 | March 1, 2011 4:52 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Exactly, if she starts answering tough questions and shows she can master the issues, she can convince me. Until then, I’m not a worshipper of hers.

    I am also against:
    Romney
    Daniels
    Huckabee
    Pawlenty
    Ginsgrich.


  181. Speranza
    181 | March 1, 2011 4:53 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    ya know what, that is a great idea.

    Thanks. Everyone here who supports Palin claims that the Dems are afraid of her because she resonates with the people so much. Well go on George Stepahnapolous’s, David Gregory’s or Bob Schieffer’s shows (away from Sean Hannity’s softballs) and show us how you can handle hostile questions and can resonate with the people. Issuing pithy comments on your Facebook account surrounded by your supporters does not make you a Profile In Courage.


  182. Speranza
    182 | March 1, 2011 4:54 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Exactly, if she starts answering tough questions and shows she can master the issues, she can convince me. Until then, I’m not a worshipper of hers.
    I am also against:
    Romney
    Daniels
    Huckabee
    Pawlenty
    Ginsgrich.

    I am against all of them. Daniels has really disappointed me.


  183. yenta-fada
    183 | March 1, 2011 5:00 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    The Chinese have afaik, the largest spy machine in the world. They compromise military secrets, hack into financial sites, rip off patented designs of everything and get away with it without a ripple. They did a piece on 60 minutes last Sunday showing how a Taiwan born, naturalized American citizen bought and blackmailed people consulting to the Pentagon. All of this is done with complete approval of the Chinese government.


  184. coldwarrior
    184 | March 1, 2011 5:00 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    that is a kill shot
    And you just know that it will be used. Romney would
    be well advised to get ou front & admit a really
    bad mistake. Instead he tap dances on it.

    he’s finished on that sound clip, finished.


  185. 185 | March 1, 2011 5:02 pm

    @ m:

    Oh they are inspired. They saw a relatively friendly to the USA dragged down by mob rule. With the collusion of President of the United States, no less. Of course they are inspired.


  186. coldwarrior
    186 | March 1, 2011 5:02 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    the chinese own us right now, period. they are kicking our but and violating the rules.

    this has to stop, period. no matter the cost or we are truly finished without a fight


  187. yenta-fada
    187 | March 1, 2011 5:11 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    yep, plenty of blame.
    its hard to kill something as large as the american economy. it takes real effort

    Sadly, yes.


  188. yenta-fada
    188 | March 1, 2011 5:17 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    the chinese own us right now, period. they are kicking our but and violating the rules.
    this has to stop, period. no matter the cost or we are truly finished without a fight

    From over here, it looks like the American public is being divided and conquered by choosing political sides and not noticing the real countries who are fully concentrated on U.S. economic destruction. Not that there’s not a real difference between the attitudes of the working people, but that here’s altogether too much coziness between the politicians of all stripes. Yes, I know this blog strongly advocates throwing the bums out en masse. I’m listening to Glenn Beck at the moment and if you suggested that to a liberal, they would throw up on you rather than watch him and give him a chance.


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