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Yeah. So as I was saying, um, er, heh… well crap. Lost my train of thought due to random synapses firing out of sequence while contemplating all the awesome contained in that one image. So let’s balance that awesome with some non-awesome.
DoD’s Walter von Dichische spotted a link that features a couple of jawdropping examples of twittering brilliance:
Mom, Gramma, FLOW, and a couple of teenage twits — Put them all together and they spell The Overnight Open Thread.
Tags: AGW, earthquake, FLOW, Global Warming, gramma, mom, Overnight Open Thread
http://www.wattsupwiththat.com
Umm…I’m not going to ask what earthquakes have to do with climate…
I swear this guy who’s been playing sax on the last couple of Eagles tours looks like Hamid Karzai…
@ lobo91:
what up sgm?
@ lobo91:
I was just thinking that!
WTF!
Rodan wrote:
For a second there, I thought that was a response to my Hamid Karzai comment.
Now that would have been really weird…
coldwarrior wrote:
Not much…watching an Eagles concert DVD.
I have another gun show to go to tomorrow. Leia gets to come this time.
Take a look at this…
@ Philip_Daniel:
I think that belongs on the Clinton thread…
lobo91 wrote:
i bet she increases ‘business’
@ coldwarrior:
That’s her job…
@ lobo91:
They blame everything in global warming.
@ Philip_Daniel:
Looks tasty!
lobo91 wrote:
do you notice a difference in traffic
@ Rodan:
@ lobo91:
@ coldwarrior:
@ Philip_Daniel:
Good evening guys!
How’s everybody tonight?
So who’s this Anna girl? Details, details… I hear CW has something to do with this match-making venture…
lobo91 wrote:
Hell Freezes Over?
They’re playing Dorian’s song:
@ doriangrey:
Live From Melbourne
@ coldwarrior:
So today at lunch from the Creole food truck, I got a “Peacemaker” -- it’s an oyster Po’boy with bacon and cheese (plus peppers, lettuce, pickles…). It was pretty dang good… I’ve now tried everything on his menu… I think next week I will go back to having the shrimp and grits…
coldwarrior wrote:
More people do tend to stop, anyway.
The layout of the show last week was actually really good, which surprised me. It was in what amounts to a basketball arena. All the guns were on the floor, and they stuck some of us who weren’t selling guns up on the concourse, instead.
I thought it was going to suck, until I realized that the way it was set up, everyone had to walk past my table to get out.
@ savages_girl:
His sister-in-law…
@ lobo91:
ROTFLMAO… Yea, right…
This is what I’m watching.
It has 30 songs on it…almost 3 hours long.
lobo91 wrote:
100% exposure!
savages_girl wrote:
be still my heart! that sounds wonderful!
coldwarrior wrote:
The guy who sells the peanut butter-filled pretzels had the best spot of all: The last table, next to the exit.
Tomorrow, I’m right by the entrance.
It’s about time:
Read the rest…
savages_girl wrote:
am i a yenta now?
@ savages_girl:
Good evening!
@ lobo91:
100% exposure with the people magnet (leila)
excellent!
coldwarrior wrote:
It should go well.
And she’ll get to play with her pal from Wyoming.
@ coldwarrior:
So I don’t understand this whole “de-certification” of the union in regards to the NFL negotiations. What does that mean? Who is supposed to be representing who? And why do the players have to file a lawsuit? I’ve been reading about it but I’m not totally getting it…
@ Rodan:
Hey! How ya doin’?
did Savage tell you that I got to see him this past Monday night?
He looks good! I haven’t seen him since last April.
@ coldwarrior:
YES!!!
LOL!
savages_girl wrote:
by decertifying the union, they are telling the owners to lock them out as there is no one to bargain for them at the table.
no nflpa, no collective bargaining authority, its a dare to lock out.
so, if there is a lockout as opposed to a strike…see the difference?
Hey SKA PEEPS!
savages_girl wrote:
from espn
I’ll be willing to bet that these two young ladies are not even aware that the monthly visit they get from mother nature is directly connected to climate change.
@ Bunk X:
boingo!!!!
coldwarrior wrote:
You wouldn’t happen to have a picture of her, would you?
She doesn’t seem to do email for some reason…
@ coldwarrior:
I don’t see much difference. Either way they are at a stalemate and nothing is being negotiated…
lobo91 wrote:
i would…hold on
@ coldwarrior:
I get the feeling that she’s self-conscious about her English skills or something.
Having spent 31 years in the Army, I’m pretty sure I’ve read worse than anything she could write…
coldwarrior wrote:
I first saw them at Madame Wong’s in the early 80s, sitting at the table next to ours, had no idea who they were.
The band was tight, and Danny Elfman was amazing. They first caught my ear with their ska cover of “Violent Love”, then later they did a cover of the Kinks’ “You Really Got Me.” I was hooked.
@ lobo91:
@ coldwarrior:
Yeah, post a picture of her!
@ savages_girl:
Not quite what I had in mind…
@ savages_girl:
Nah I didn’t.
Bunk X wrote:
@ lobo91:
working from my wifes phone…now i realize why i prefer blackberry.
send it to your phone or email?
coldwarrior wrote:
I resemble that remark!
coldwarrior wrote:
Email, please
@ Bunk X:
the boingo were talented.
@ Bunk X:
When Danny was forming Oingo Boingo the first thing he asked everyone was, would you join a band called Oingo boingo? He later said he had over 100 musicians turn him down just because of the bands name.
Here’s one for the Libyan “rebels”:
“We barely made the runway
For the last plane out
As we taxied down the runway
I could hear the people shout
‘Don’t come back here, Yankee’
But if I ever do, I’ll bring more money
‘Caus all she wants to do is dance”
coldwarrior wrote:
Danny Elfman is brilliant.
lobo91 wrote:
on its way!
lobo91 wrote:
You haven’t heard? Global warming may bring tsunami and quakes: scientists
In that last part, I think he’s calling you a knucklehead.
yenta-fada wrote:
i made all the old italian grammas around here proud!
doriangrey wrote:
yep.
and often overlooked band and talent
@ coldwarrior:
You’re a good boy.
@ coldwarrior:
Got it.
Thanks!
@ doriangrey:
Classic Boingo. Their original name was “The Mystic Knights of the Oingo Boingo.” Kinda plops off the tongue, yet they got a gig on The Gong Show:
@ coldwarrior:
I think the Eagles are going to be pretty big, too…
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huckfunn wrote:
Man, talk about doubling down on the politically motivated fraud and pure bullshit.
lobo91 wrote:
Well that seems like a good reaction! ~:D
yenta-fada wrote:
when we moved here in the mid 70′s, all of the italian g’ma’s were still alive, and were some of the g’pa’s…right off the boat (many years ago).
i miss them, i would go deliver papers and they would all try to feed me.
when the last g’pa died, i got three cutting of his grapes that he made wine with and planted them, 2 survived. these came from seed in italy way back in the day. so now i have a trellis and the vines…i learend how to make ravioli, sauce, and hot sausage from them as well.
better days…
lobo91 wrote:
well, if that booze hound joe would get his act together!
coldwarrior wrote:
Something you can pass on to Puti, Martini and Sushi…
@ doriangrey:
Ya think?
m wrote:
We are all yentas now!
lol
My theme song…
@ huckfunn:
No, you’re shitting me!
They really are reaching.
m wrote:
doriangrey wrote:
On that same link you can find this: WE’VE TEAMED UP WITH CQ ROLL CALL ON NEW HEALTH POLICY E-NEWSLETTER. Just click on 1 or 2 of those and you’ll think you’re reading something from The Onion or SNL. I thought it was a joke, and then I remembered it was Reuters. Really bizarre.
@ doriangrey:
it is.
we were the only non-italian family (except for the carter’s, they were black) in the entire side of town. everyone was italian.
now thats is all gone. its a real loss.
Rodan wrote:
Can you prove them wrong?
//
huckfunn wrote:
WOW. How odd is it to discover that WE are the sane people?
lobo91 wrote:
i’ll take that as a positive reaction to the photo
Whoa… Bill Maher may have just committed suicide…
Bill Maher Bashes Qur’an To Muslim Rep. Keith Ellison During Interview
@ coldwarrior:
Definitely.
Not that I was worried about it…just wanted to be able to put a face to the voice on the phone.
lobo91 wrote:
copy that.
coldwarrior wrote:
Timothy B. Schmitt needs to get a haircut, though.
@ doriangrey:
HOLY BALLS!!!!!
wow!
yenta-fada wrote:
As I have said many times, there is a reason I call them the Fifth Column Treasonous Media, and it isnt because they are ethical objective journalists.
yenta-fada wrote:
Welcome to the Ethisphere Institute.
Oh my!
coldwarrior wrote:
I sent her a link to my website, so she knows what I look like.
And she still returns my calls…
//
lobo91 wrote:
buncha hippiez!
coldwarrior wrote:
Yup, if any conservative republican or FoxNews Journalist had made those statements their would be thousands of death threats against them within hours. Can you imagine the uproar if Sarah Palin had said those exact same words?
lobo91 wrote:
Leia sucked in another one.// lol
huckfunn wrote:
They’ll probably nominate NPR and Al Gore’s Carbon offset trading company for most ethical businesses.
@ lobo91:
excellent!
i have done my part…soon i get my yenta medal
doriangrey wrote:
The question is, is a liberal about to be mugged by reality?
@ yenta-fada:
The last two turned out to be whack jobs, though…
coldwarrior wrote:
Hey, I don’t toss those things around./
@ doriangrey:
this means that the message is getting out.
he made elison spin and get all uncomfortable.
yenta-fada wrote:
Bill Maher is so fucking arrogant if he is mugged by reality, he will never know or understand what hit him.
lobo91 wrote:
Completely different situation in every way and you know it.
@ huckfunn:
Seems to me I read about undersea methane burps.
Spooky stuff… a frozen pocket of methane ruptures and rises, where it warms and disperses into a foamy sea of gas, and any ship unfortunate enough to pilot into one of these frothing gas bubbles gets sent to the bottom without warning.
doriangrey wrote:
I think you’re right.
yenta-fada wrote:
i know!
@ yenta-fada:
~:D
coldwarrior wrote:
Ellison went full bore Taqiyya on him, but even funnier was Ellison describing why he became a Muslim, it was the result of his search for “Social Justice” in other words, he did it to stick it to the man and push for reparations.
@ doriangrey:
that interview is a classic…i now have it on speed dial.
thx
@ Bunk X:
The more I look at the OOT picture, the funnier I think it is.
Bunk X wrote:
Myth Buster’s did a episode where they examined that theory, and sure enough, it sank their little boat. Was actually a interesting show.
@ m:
i stage crewed that play in high school, i still know the words to it!
@ coldwarrior:
Evidently!
yenta-fada wrote:
Oh, I know. I’m just saying that that’s not a good criterion. Everyone loves Leia. Random people walking by in the park behind my house stop to talk to her when she’s in the back yard, even.
coldwarrior wrote:
ROTFLMAO.. I was Master Electrician for several dozen productions in college and cant remember jack shit about any of them.
m wrote:
two people that i know that need a good break in their lives…
@ yenta-fada:
The key is the brisket…
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@ coldwarrior:
@ doriangrey:
I hate Mahler so much it took great effort for me to watch that vid. Ellison is concerned about social justice and “the anti-apartheid struggle”? Mooslimism is the most apartheid practice on the planet. What a crock.
doriangrey wrote:
i ran the sound board…so i know the words to fiddler on the roof, chicago, and south pacific.
coldwarrior wrote:
Shit… I guess that leave me out…
@ yenta-fada:
coldwarrior wrote:
You’re a good boy.
doriangrey wrote:
you had your break…no?
coldwarrior wrote:
ROTFLMAO… That’s usually what the Master Electrician does. (Along with making sure everything that requires electricity gets it)
Bunk X wrote:
Yeah, but the really spooky part is that some folks think that man made CO2 has something to do with it. Frothing gas bubbles indeed!
savages_girl wrote:
Hi! How are ya?
coldwarrior wrote:
I’ve had several, but they always involve bones…
@ m:
LOL, Fiddler on the Roof!
doriangrey wrote:
this is the honest truth: i was messing with the board when i was in 9th grade, no one had touched it for a few years, they just left the settings and draped plastic over it!
sO i pretended to know what i was doing and got away with it!
coldwarrior wrote:
She seemed impressed by the fact that I like to cook. Apparently, she doesn’t.
huckfunn wrote:
olde frothingslosh!
I switched over to Sirius Classic Rewind.
I haven’t heard this song in forever…
Wow, this looks pretty fucked up, Odumbo to comment, err vote present in 3…2…1…
Sticky: Watch Yemen’s Nerve Gas Attack on Protesters Live!
lobo91 wrote:
HAH!!!!
neither does her sister!
@ coldwarrior:
Why should she? She has you…
lobo91 wrote:
did my wife email you that answer?
doriangrey wrote:
was it really ‘nerve gas’ opr was it CS/tear gas?
coldwarrior wrote:
That would be my guess…
coldwarrior wrote:
I don’t doubt it for one second. I ended up as Master Electrician in college because as a professional musician I had a considerable amount of experience, but I definitely saw a lot of people who totally bullshitted their way into stage hand positions.
Their is very little difference between setting up sound and lighting for a band and for a stage production, once you have done enough of it, it’s pretty easy to spot the people who really haven’t done what they claim they have done.
coldwarrior wrote:
I thought of it all by myself…
coldwarrior wrote:
I dont know, but Jane, who reported the story to The Jawa Report usually isnt given to exaggeration. She’s pretty level headed, so I believe it is very possible.
@ doriangrey:
by the third week, i had that simple board and the 8 mikes down.
(then i realized it would be easier with headphones…
)
lobo91 wrote:
ROTFLMAO… Good answer…
@ doriangrey:
mmmm…one death and lots of snot…tear gas.
if it were nerve gas…lots of death before anyone made it to an aid station
@ doriangrey:
There would be a lot more than 1 person dead if they used nerve gas…
lobo91 wrote:
uh-huh…
coldwarrior wrote:
Easier, but way less accurate.
@ coldwarrior:
I told her I’d teach her to shoot, too.
coldwarrior wrote:
That’s a great story. I remember my Dad making several references to “Old Frothingslosh” but I never understood what he was talking about,
and this is the first time that I heard of that beer or that story. Outstanding!
coldwarrior wrote:
And to think, I had to learn the mathematics of acoustics’s and the dynamic responses of microphone amplifier interactions, harmonic feed back cycles and frequency cancellation and equalization loopback procedures…
I could have just put headphones on and faked it… 
doriangrey wrote:
the board was stage left, behind a cement wall!
i wanted to move it out into the seats (after asking my uncle about this problem, he owned neat marantz stuff and knew about sound and told me to do that).
lobo91 wrote:
cooking and shooting…perfect combo!
huckfunn wrote:
legend around here…legend
@ doriangrey:
I’m guessing you clicked on the wrong comment to respond to…
@ doriangrey:
high school…this was in high school
@ doriangrey:
Oh… and a funny story for you, what was that beer you were talking about the other day? the one you said it’s going flat was one of the first signs of the Apocalypse? Lieterfulgen? or something like that? I went over to my little brothers house around 3:30 this afternoon, guess what he was drinking…
lobo91 wrote:
Damn it, I hate it when that happens…
doriangrey wrote:
leinenkugels!
BWAHAHAHA!!!
doriangrey wrote:
My first clue was the fact that I never had to study acoustics in any of my courses…
//CBRNE specialist…
@ lobo91:
nasty nasty nasty stuff
@ yenta-fada:
Sorry, been on the phone. One of my friends called and she’s drunk… talked my ear off! I’m doing OK. Got out of town last weekend (Friday through this past Tuesday), saw my dad, saw my mom, got a chance to see Savage (on Monday), so it’s been a busy last 7 days.
How are you feeling?
coldwarrior wrote:
When I was an instructor at Ft McClellan, they were always trying to get people to volunteer to work at the CDTF. The extra money (hazardous duty pay) wasn’t enough to make me want to spend 4 hours a day at MOPP 4.
They had a special exemption in the chemical weapons treaty allowing them to produce 1 liter per month of VX on site.
@ lobo91:
Teaching her to cook might be safer…
Just sayin’…
@ lobo91:
ft mcclellan is a place i never ever want to return to. that joint is something else.
yenta-fada wrote:
Yeah. It creeps me out, too. I quit looking at it and decided to google lesbian amputee dwarf porn instead.
coldwarrior wrote:
I was last there about a month before they shut everything down. It was pretty strange being on a post that was all but closed.
Bunk X wrote:
I heard that was the favorite of the Boiler Room Crew…
lobo91 wrote:
i trust that the ‘items’ are secure or are being destroyed.
coldwarrior wrote:
Or at least that somebody named Abdul bin Mohammadsasshole doesn’t have ready access to them…
savages_girl wrote:
I’m just going offline to get some decent sleep. I’m glad you got to see your dad. How is he doing?
doriangrey wrote:
not there…trust me on that one.
coldwarrior wrote:
Actually, no. Pellham Range was transferred to the Alabama Guard, but the main post area is still under federal control. DOJ uses the CDTF for training the FBI and various other agencies.
Ft McClellan is so contaminated with stuff that there’s no way they could ever clean it up.
Things that make you scratch your head and just go “Hmmmm”:
Is that a monkey in your bra, or … oh, OK, it’s a monkey
Woman shows up at Va. courthouse with tiny marmoset in her undergarment
lobo91 wrote:
i figured that.
@ coldwarrior:
They built a new CDTF at Leonard Wood, of course.
@ yenta-fada:
Dad is responding to treatment. He started chemo again today and Monday starts radiation therapy. Hope he makes it through all that. He is also getting over a case of shingles. but he was in good spirits when we visited with him. He was excited to see us (me, my mom and my younger brother) and have company. I am going to try and go back in three months for another visit.
@ coldwarrior:
I’ve seen stuff out there that you wouldn’t believe.
There are areas out on Pellham Range that look like something from a horror movie. Swamp land with 55 gallon drums half-submerged sticking up…
lobo91 wrote:
why destroy THE vacation spot of the ozarks like that?
i loved that place.
@ lobo91:
i just hope i didnt get any of it on me while i was there.
savages_girl wrote:
As hard as it is to see a loved one sick, I’m glad that you were able to be there together with your mom and brother for him. You even saw the elusive Savage. Tell him not to be such a stranger.
coldwarrior wrote:
I’m sure you’d know by now…
doriangrey wrote:
I don’t put a lot of weight on Mythbusters, but an undersea methane eruption is possible.
BTW, I’m not a proponent of the Bermuda Triangle Mystery Vortex. It’s the most heavily trafficked area in the region, and it has as many mishaps as any other region when adjusted for the number of vessels crossing it vs. other regions.
lobo91 wrote:
it took 35 years for the agent orange exposure to show up in my dad.
Bunk X wrote:
i do believe that the great lakes has a higher accident ratio than the triangle.
need to look that one up later, i think i saw it on a history channel thing
huckfunn wrote:
Yeah, but consider that you’re cruising along, spot some whitewater and decide to move along… over a cliff of water. Scary thought.
coldwarrior wrote:
Agent Orange is dioxin. That’s a little different.
If you were exposed to any of the crap they used at McClellan, you would have seen effects long before now.
Well, I need to get to bed so I can get up for the gun show.
Later…
alright off to bed.
good night everybody
@ lobo91:
good to know.
thx
yenta-fada wrote:
Yentas Я Us
savages_girl wrote:
capital idea!
night all.
huckfunn wrote:
You never heard of “The Old Pale Stale Ale with the foam on the bottom?”
DO NOT READ IF YOU WANT TO GO SEE BATTLE: LOS ANGELES
What can I say about a movie that is like having sex with a beautiful woman who keeps biting you and asks if you like that?
First it makes this pathetic attempt at character building, O, for about 5 minutes, then it is off with your Platoon of marines to fight aliens who for some reason are destroying earth’s cities, because…wait for it…they fuel themselves on liquid sea water. Apparently some scientific wag tells us the only place in the whole universe with liquid salt water. Yep, billions of galaxies, each with billions of stars, and the only place to find cheap sea-water is EARTH!
OK, I can get by that, but then you have the heavy-handed musical score trying to tug at your emotions, it intrudes though the whole movie, much like your last psycho girlfriend keeps showing up each time you go on a date.
Then the aliens completly outclass our military, but this Platoon discovers their weakness and blows up their giant communications thingy, hidden O so subtely in LA’s sewer system, as the heroine played by Michele Rodriguez of (Fast & Furious fame) figures out as the Air Force intelligence officer who somehow survived an alien attack. Now Michelle really only has one purpose in any movie, she has a body to die for, but in this movie that body is totally hidden by shapeless military fatigues, and a gigantic (military intelligence ?) helmet.
Though all this is the battle scenes shown with the really, really cool Blair Witch Project…herkey-jerkey handheld cam, until your eyes and mind scream out for a John Ford shot of Monument Valley using rails and a stabilized camera platform. I mean after ten minutes you want to stab out your eyes, or find the Director and stab his eyes out.
But worse than all of this is the writing. Here is a sample: After figuring out how to take out their giant sewer-hidden communication-thingy, that controls the alien version of Predator Drones fighting through salt-water drinking aliens…who in 24 hours have noticeably lowered the oceans levels…they must have been THIRSTY! Well the marines and Michelle in her shapeless fatigues MUST hang out for 3 minutes to laser illuminate the giant sewer-hidden communication thingy, because for some reason our military is too retarded to actually see this 20 story tall with a mass of twenty Aircraft Carriers giant sewer-hidden communication thingy with more antennae sticking up out of sewer than a 1959 trailer park in Little Rock Arkansas.
Well they blow that up like Randy Quaid blew up the giant alien starcraft thingy in Independence Day. And so they go back to where the military have been hanging out since they got their ass kicked, out in the Mojave Desert…just like the military did in Independence Day, when they got THEIR ass kicked, and went and hung out in the Mojave Desert. And so after probably just saving the entire human race and our precious treasure trove of salt water and Epsom Salt, the commanding officer tells the Platoon Leader guy, to have some breakfast…you earned it!” Wow! Imagine the miserable award if you simpley saved a child or something…probably the commanding officer would tell you to eat a fungus-covered marshmallow…because, by God, you earned it!
This was like a movie where the Director must have been thinking that to understand digestion, we must be shown close up shots of mouths masticating greasy food. Hollywood is just getting worse and worse. Plus I sat next to some guy that kept eating from a HUGE bag of popcorn, with such ferocity, I thought maybe he had been starving for a couple of weeks before he came to see this movie.
@ doriangrey:
Hey kids! I know! Let’s plot some Cardioids! YAY!
coldwarrior wrote:
It’s true, due to the frequent dangerous weather on the Great Lakes.
Bunk X wrote:
ROTFLMAO… Oh my GOD, where was that program when I was in college and needed it?
@ doriangrey:
With that I think I am going to go out to the local watering hole and get a beer…
Crap. Explosion at Japan nuke plant…
So what, now after fretting the tsunami I have to go out tomorrow and get respirators with radiation cartidges for the family?
Bunk X wrote:
Is that red line Sine or Cosine??
Hmmm, thing that make you go Hmmm…
Saw an expanded selection of those tweets elswhere… It’s a pity we don’t know how to process stupid into fuel -- we’d have a limitless supply.
@ doriangrey:
Oh good. We can just frolic at the beach and not worry!
ThreeHundred wrote:
I used to work in the Nuclear industry back in the early 80′s. I find that map very hard to believe, but I don’t remember or know enough to say definitively that it is impossible. My guess is that it’s off by at least a factor of 10, probably 100, which is most likely why it was yanked from Drudge and Rueters. And what it indicates would genuinely be a worst case scenario. I think the reactor would pretty much have to totally explode for something like that to happen.
OK, well this definitely isnt good…
http://www.twitvid.com/LICNU
@ doriangrey:
Oy. They have problems with 5 reactors at two sites. Not good.
Mike C. wrote:
See my post number 200, that a pretty damned big explosion. Yea, odds do not seem to be in Japan’s favor.
The Greens along with the willing help of Fifth Column Treasonous Media™ will use this to make sure that it’s at least 100 years before another new nuclear power station is built in the United States…
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
I think you got that backwards, but yea… The Fifth Column Treasonous Media will with the help of the Greenie Enviro-nazi’s ensure no new nuclear reactors are built for probably more than a 100 years.
So, no nuclear power, no petroleum, no coal. I’d say that A) the US is totally and royally screwed, and B) Obama pretty much just lost any prayer of getting re-elected. If the Kingdom Of Saudi Arabia falls to revolution as some are predicting I’m guessing $10.00 a gallon gasoline within a week or to of it’s fall.
Good Mornin All….prayers for Japan
@ doriangrey:
Ten bucks a gallon would be a good deal IF the gas station or anyone else with gas will still take paper or plastic dollars!! Most major wars are the result of very bad economics. I’ve got a really bad feeling about all this…
mawskrat wrote:
Yea, one of it’s nuclear reactors appears to have exploded, and four more are is serious trouble.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
This is already going on since yesterday here. Nonstop.
And of course they lie about Chernobyl. Nonstop.
Don’t want to be cynical but remember that climate scientist who called for a small nuclear war to cool the climate ?
Is he happy now ?
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
Yea, I know what you mean, but since we still produce about half of the oil we need there will be gas available, but you can bet it will be rationed. I suspect if and when that happens you will see the gas stations go purely to plastic, because otherwise the amounts of currency on hand will be an invitation to armed robbery by desperate people. $250.00 to $300.00 dollars to fill your gas tank is going to put a serious hurt on just about everybody.
@ Guggi:
I’m way past being just cynical. I’m willing to bet that the World will burn before the end of my lifetime.
doriangrey wrote:
Screw the money; grab the gas and food!!
@ Da_Beerfreak:
And Beer, grab lots of Beer…
@ Da_Beerfreak:
I call dibbs on all the little
pecan pies!!!!
mawskrat wrote:
Those are good, but they are almost too sweet to eat.
@ doriangrey:
It doesn’t help when irresponsible allahpundit puts up the Japan power plant explosion article with a stock photo of a nuke going off either
Well, the reactor didn’t explode -- a pressure build-up seems to have blown the outer containment structure. This is very much not good, but it’s not a nuclear explosion. That video clearly shows a dust cloud from the collapse of a substantial concrete structure, not any smoke or worse.
The situation is bad, but let’s not make it more than it is.
If they can’t restore moderation/cooling and get an actual melt-down, the situation will be dire, but still not any sort of nuclear explosion.
I will agree, however, that this will energize (so to speak) the anti-nuke power crowd here at home and make expedited construction of much-needed facilities in this country all the less likely.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
Guess I better get to practicing my beer making skills…
@ waldensianspirit:
Allahpundit is a real dick.
doriangrey wrote:
just make pure grain alcohol
@ mawskrat:
People can choose what they mix in. Or not
@ Mike C.:
I’ve noticed guys like him, Nodrog and ChenZhen always ignore better educated and intelligent people so they can be “top dog” or center of attention
As an aside, this disaster in Japan is an opportunity for the PRC to earn serious good karma points to jump in with both feet to help. But will they see and act on that? The US already has a lot of the Pacific fleet steaming for Japan (as is right and proper, IMHO.)
Film at 11…
the talking head on FOX…an explosion at
a nuke facility is not good
NO SHIT/
waldensianspirit wrote:
Heh. Although he’s banned from GCP, I swap e-mails with Gordon every once in a while. He’s wrong, but he’s not as evil as he was traditionally made out to be. And he wrote that really neat bit about my banning from LGF, catapulting me into fame and fortune!
Okay, maybe not. But still…
Chen Zen is another matter entirely..
Mike C. wrote:
Have you ever been inside a nuclear containment building? I have, I worked at San Onofre for two years back in 79 and 80. Nuclear reactors do not go super critical like nuclear weapons. What happens is that when the coolant lever get’s low enough the core heat’s up to around 3000 degree’s C. That causes the remaining coolant to flash over into superheated steam.
When the coolant flashes over to super heated steam you get a steam boiler explosion. The Core itself doesn’t go flying, the pipe’s rupture and the steam blows the containment structure apart. At 3000 degree’s C the core is semi-molten, more in a plastic state than anything else. The super heated steam dissolves parts of the core and expels it as radioactive debris.
What the video I posted at #200 shows is either a hydrogen explosion (my best guess actually) or a coolant flash over. One of the side effect’s of the core exceeding around 1500 C is the separation of hydrogen from water. This is what the gases they were trying to bleed off is. Those gases are heavily contaminated with radioactive material, but not as bad as they would be in a coolant flash over.
Those outer containment structure are usually five feet thick steel reinforced concrete, they are designed to fall down on the reactor and seal it off from the outside world. It takes an amazing amount of power to explode one out from the inside.
Dont be mistaken, what happened there was really really really bad, so bad that the Japanese government has made the mandatory evacuation zone 20 kilometers now.
@ Mike C.:
Yea, I have them on about the same scale. I mentioned Gordon because he was defending Charles on DOD the other day yet impossible to have a conversation with
Radio news just said damage to the reactor core is unlikely
Other than its own temperature that is
waldensianspirit wrote:
The radio news is basically full of shit. Until they can get someone in there to physically inspect the damage it is impossible to say exactly what has happened. Like I told MikeC, I worked at a nuclear reactor, I know how they are built, how they operate and what happens when something goes wrong. I was a Health Physic’s Technician at San Onofre for 2 years.
This much I can tell you from experience, they people who genuinely know what the situation is at that plant, they are not telling the reporters diddly squat. The expert’s talking to the talking head’s are doing their damnedest to down play what ever might have happened. They are doing that in an attempt to prevent panic because basically nobody really knows for sure what exactly has happened yet.
@ doriangrey:
@ doriangrey:
Same point I was making. The core didn’t “explode” as allahpundit would have you believe. Hydrogen explodes yet it is unlikely the hydrogen explosion damaged/”exploded” the core; it would have to implode it first
@ doriangrey:
Nope, never been inside a nuke plant -- not my particular segment of the energy industry. So I learned something new here today. That’s always a good start to a day.
Hydrogen explosion, eh ? Okay, I do understand the basic physics involved and that seems a reasonable explantion.
Sounds like we need to be airlifting some inspection remote-control devices over there ASAP so they can get a look inside. Of course, they may already have better ones than ours, Japan being very big on that sort of thing.
In any case, a damned mess. IMHO, we need to get them any assistance they need immediately.
Second point no matter how bad radio news is, on calamities it is still far better than political hacks like allahpundit
Wow! By direct GPS measurement Japan coast shifted 8 feet!
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/12/japan.earthquake.tsunami.earth/index.html?hpt=T1
Geology in action…
@ doriangrey:
I think this theory may have been advanced to explain sudden disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle.
@ texasam7:
Gas bubbles in water are a known and documented threat to shipping in shelf areas. Way back when, I worked on an area in the Gulf of Alaska where this sort of thing posed a very real threat to seismic data acquisition vessels. You could correllate the gas bubbles in the observer notes to the faulting seen in the acquired seismic data. Just as serious and as real as a heart attack.
@ doriangrey:
How bad is this…compared to Chernobyl? I know the reactor designs are totally different, but still….
@ Macker:
Not comparable, IMHO (although Dorien can chime in on that.)
Chernobyl was a graphite-moderated reactor not much more advanced than the Chicago Pile, and caught fire and burned. These are light-water reactors with moderator rods -- a completely different design.
Not good, though.
Good Morning Blogmocracy! Today is another glorious day in the Reign of Emperor Barack Hussein I, Pasha of the United States and Defender of the
FaithUmmah! There are 605 Days Until the 2012 Presidential Election! The top story of the day is still the Japanese quake. I heard last night that this was the biggest quake in some 12000 years for this region. That may give some heart to people who are seeing the hopes of a nuclear future go down the drink. This was a 1 in 1000 year event. We will learn from it, and nuclear plants will be even safer as a result. Nuke power is safe, not that that will stop the Green-Red alliancve from being against American nuke plants (the Iranians, OTOH, have a right to nuke power, don’t you know…) In other news, the Arab leaders discuss a no-fly zone over Libya. Hey, if they can enforce it, more power to them. Saudi Arabia has some F-15s we sold them. Put them to good use. That doesn;’t mean we should be sticking our nose in where there is no compelling US interest. Finbally, this will piss you off. Just when you thought the New Black Paqnthers couldn’t get anoy lower, they are justifying the gang-rape of an 11-year old girl. Girl is hispanic. Guess the race of the rapists. Remin me why Eric Holder is still Attourney General after protecting these motherfuckers from Prosecution?@ Macker:
Chernobyl had lot of graphite in its core that was burning and exposed after the accident. Chernobyl also used U-238, which uses fast neutrons to initiate fission. That means when that with no water in the core it could start up again. The Japanese reactor is probably a U-235 plant that requires slow neutrons and without water to slow the neutrons down there is no fission of uranium.
The heat is coming from the secondary nuclear reactions that happen after uranium fissions and require some time to completely stop.
The core is probably no longer useable but I can’t see how it could be anything like Chernobyl.
A 20 Km evacuation zone is pretty small.
The Japanese seem to be pretty quick to release information but like Doriengrey, they aren’t speculating.
Since 911 human history has been put on steroids. Biblically we are seeing the time-compression prophesied for the time just before the return of Christ. Since the last Iraq war…the historical “Head of Gold,” of Daniel’s statue was destroyed.
Completing a cycle of the destruction of Nebuchadnezzar’s statue characterizing human civilization from that King’s time to our time. The destruction of that statue began at WWI, and ended in the second Iraq war.
The result is the destruction of nation-states, with some bleed-over of time, mostly a sort of Noah’s Ark moment for humanity to transition from an age that was, to a new age, to the Kingdom of God. We are seeing all nations being destroyed, from some right now it is the financial structure, for others the political structure, and for others, both political and economic destruction.
And for some simply destruction via nature. Why? Because our governments, our economies are evil in the sight of God, and His patience has run out, just like in the days of Noah. This will just continue in intensity and frequency until men are humbled and they will only be able to turn to God for help. Or turn from Him one last time for dam(nation). This country even elected a man specifically designed to damn America, trained in a false church to do EXACTLY as he is doing. Fools voted him in, fools keep him in power. Obama is a man much like the ancient Nebuchadnezzar, stupid in his arrogance not knowing God is and has always been in charge.
Nebuchadnezzar was driven mad until he admitted that God alone rules, men are just leased authority from God to fulfill His purposes. Even Bush was set on a course by God to destroy Saddam…the stand-in for the “Head of Gold.” That the cycle might be complete, and judgement would be given to the righteous, who are righteous because of their faith.