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Moonbat Gets One Right

by Iron Fist ( 167 Comments › )
Filed under Economy, Environmentalism, Regulation at March 22nd, 2011 - 8:00 pm

And not just any moonbat, but the Moonbat, George Monbiot himself:

You will not be surprised to hear that the events in Japan have changed my view of nuclear power. You will be surprised to hear how they have changed it. As a result of the disaster at Fukushima, I am no longer nuclear-neutral. I now support the technology.

A crappy old plant with inadequate safety features was hit by a monster earthquake and a vast tsunami. The electricity supply failed, knocking out the cooling system. The reactors began to explode and melt down. The disaster exposed a familiar legacy of poor design and corner-cutting. Yet, as far as we know, no one has yet received a lethal dose of radiation.

The old adage about a stopped clock may be right, but this is actually well-reasoned. Sane, even. Yes, Fukushima had about as bad a hand delt it as is possible, and yet it was never in any danger of becoming another Chernobyl. It simply couldn’t become that bad. The Greens did themselves no favors here:

Some greens have wildly exaggerated the dangers of radioactive pollution. For a clearer view, look at the graphic published by xkcd.com. It shows that the average total dose from the Three Mile Island disaster for someone living within 10 miles of the plant was one 625th of the maximum yearly amount permitted for US radiation workers. This, in turn, is half of the lowest one-year dose clearly linked to an increased cancer risk, which, in its turn, is one 80th of an invariably fatal exposure. I’m not proposing complacency here. I am proposing perspective.

If other forms of energy production caused no damage, these impacts would weigh more heavily. But energy is like medicine: if there are no side-effects, the chances are that it doesn’t work.

I especially like that last sentence. That is very much the truth. Even a dam and water-wheel has some effect on the environment. The Greens’ precious windmills kill birds and bats in addition to not working very well unless the environmental conditions are just right. Not suitable for running the power grid of a Third World nation, let alon that of a modern industrial/post-industrial power.

Monbiot of course gives the obligatory genuflection to “renewable” energy sources, but then he follows it with some hard-nosed analysis of a kind that most Leftists are incapable of. I like his closing paragraph:

At high latitudes like ours, most small-scale ambient power production is a dead loss. Generating solar power in the UK involves a spectacular waste of scarce resources. It’s hopelessly inefficient and poorly matched to the pattern of demand. Wind power in populated areas is largely worthless. This is partly because we have built our settlements in sheltered places; partly because turbulence caused by the buildings interferes with the airflow and chews up the mechanism. Micro-hydropower might work for a farmhouse in Wales, but it’s not much use in Birmingham.

Nothing I disagree with there. What is being said may come as no surprise to the readers of this blog, but what makes this news is the source. If the anti-Nuke “Greens” have lost George Monbiot, they have lost the war. If he stays this rational on the subject, he becomes a better spokesman for our side of the issue than any we can produce. It will be interesting to see if the Left now attack him, since he has stepped off the Green-Red Reservation.

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  1. buzzsawmonkey
    1 | March 22, 2011 8:06 pm

    Great! Only took—what?—half a century plus for one moonbat to come around?


  2. Brick
    2 | March 22, 2011 8:07 pm

    Spot on. Bring on the nukes. I remember TMI. It was bad because it was the first. Now…not so much. Still, nobody died. Happened right around the time that Hollywood released the masterpiece, The China Syndrome.


  3. 3 | March 22, 2011 8:12 pm

    It will be interesting to see if the Left now attack him, since he has stepped off the Green-Red Reservation.

    He will be excoriated to the point of evisceration. The left’s treatment of those on their own side who stray from the path resembles that of insects, no pity, no mercy, no understanding, and no redemption.


  4. Macker
    4 | March 22, 2011 8:14 pm

    I imagine pretty soon we can start printing the following bumper sticker:

    Chappaquiddick 1, Fukushima 0


  5. 5 | March 22, 2011 8:14 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    A certain LA Jazz Guitarist will condemn him.


  6. Guggi
    6 | March 22, 2011 8:15 pm

    The Greens’ precious windmills kill birds and bats in addition to not working very well unless the environmental conditions are just right.

    And they heat the micro climate with 1 degree C. This means you get mor hot spots in the environment. Thousands and thousands of them.


  7. vagabond trader
    7 | March 22, 2011 8:16 pm

    @ Macker:

    That is twisted. I like it. :twisted:


  8. Guggi
    8 | March 22, 2011 8:16 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    mor more


  9. vagabond trader
    9 | March 22, 2011 8:17 pm

    @ Guggi:

    The whine of the turbines drives many people close by nuts too.


  10. buzzsawmonkey
    10 | March 22, 2011 8:21 pm

    The problem with wind and solar energies is that they depend on what Nature is doing at any given moment; they are all about man ceding control of the supply of his necessities to an erratic and uncontrollable outside force. Coal, oil, gas and nuclear plants, and water turbines, are all controllable by man himself.

    What is being falsely sold as “renewable energy” should be subjected to truth in labeling for what it is: unreliable energy.


  11. Da_Beerfreak
    11 | March 22, 2011 8:30 pm

    Brick wrote:

    Spot on. Bring on the nukes. I remember TMI. It was bad because it was the first. Now…not so much. Still, nobody died. Happened right around the time that Hollywood released the masterpiece, The China Syndrome.

    TMI was not the first US melt-down.
    How We Almost Lost Detroit in 1966.


  12. The Osprey
    12 | March 22, 2011 8:31 pm

    No Gojira?


  13. Nevergiveup
    13 | March 22, 2011 8:32 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Brick wrote:

    Spot on. Bring on the nukes. I remember TMI. It was bad because it was the first. Now…not so much. Still, nobody died. Happened right around the time that Hollywood released the masterpiece, The China Syndrome.

    TMI was not the first US melt-down.
    How We Almost Lost Detroit in 1966.

    I’m a tad confused by the linkage of the words “Detroit” and “lost” in the same sentence like that would have been a bad thing?


  14. Guggi
    14 | March 22, 2011 8:32 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    The whine of the turbines drives many people close by nuts too.

    This too, therefore more and more communities oppose the windmills.


  15. 15 | March 22, 2011 8:33 pm

    Swimming lesson in Gaza.


  16. Da_Beerfreak
    16 | March 22, 2011 8:34 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    Brick wrote:
    Spot on. Bring on the nukes. I remember TMI. It was bad because it was the first. Now…not so much. Still, nobody died. Happened right around the time that Hollywood released the masterpiece, The China Syndrome.
    TMI was not the first US melt-down.
    How We Almost Lost Detroit in 1966.

    I’m a tad confused by the linkage of the words “Detroit” and “lost” in the same sentence like that would have been a bad thing?

    That was back in ’66 when Detroit still had a fighting chance.
    Today, not so much… :twisted:


  17. Guggi
    17 | March 22, 2011 8:35 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:

    OmG are they completely nuts ?


  18. Nevergiveup
    18 | March 22, 2011 8:35 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:

    OmG are they completely nuts ?

    Well yES


  19. Guggi
    19 | March 22, 2011 8:37 pm

    And solar power ruins the landscape


  20. 20 | March 22, 2011 8:38 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    OmG are they completely nuts ?

    YES! That was vicious. What was that baby, maybe 2 years old and coldly batted into a deep swimming pool like he was a toy.


  21. lobo91
    21 | March 22, 2011 8:38 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    OmG are they completely nuts ?

    Looks that way to me.

    Leia agrees, BTW.


  22. waldensianspirit
    22 | March 22, 2011 8:41 pm

    @ Brick:
    How bad is something when the first thing they do is fly in President Carter…

    //Shit! Caught by my own question


  23. 23 | March 22, 2011 8:42 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Maybe the Greens just love Dutch culture!
    /

    :lol:


  24. Guggi
    24 | March 22, 2011 8:43 pm

    And there is the unsolved problem with the scrap of disused solar panels which are toxic waste.


  25. 25 | March 22, 2011 8:43 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:

    I have nothing to say to this sickness.


  26. Brick
    26 | March 22, 2011 8:46 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Brick wrote:
    Spot on. Bring on the nukes. I remember TMI. It was bad because it was the first. Now…not so much. Still, nobody died. Happened right around the time that Hollywood released the masterpiece, The China Syndrome.

    TMI was not the first US melt-down.
    How We Almost Lost Detroit in 1966.

    I had no idea. A couple years before my time, but thanks for that. :)


  27. 27 | March 22, 2011 8:46 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    I have nothing to say to this sickness.

    It is conditioning for violence and psychopathy.


  28. waldensianspirit
  29. Nevergiveup
    29 | March 22, 2011 8:48 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    I have nothing to say to this sickness.

    It is conditioning for violence and psychopathy.

    Pretty nice pool in Gaza? I wonder if the UN knows about it, since they are all starving and all?


  30. Nevergiveup
    30 | March 22, 2011 8:49 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Wow! 13 Illegal Immigrants Arrested in California Wearing U.S. Marine Uniforms

    Yeah I saw that. pretty dangerous also. But they all had the name “Perez” on their Uniflorm?


  31. Guggi
    31 | March 22, 2011 8:50 pm

    At the end of 2008 Germany had 129,167,999 square feet solarpanels which made 0,1 of the energy supply.


  32. buzzsawmonkey
    32 | March 22, 2011 8:50 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Wow! 13 Illegal Immigrants Arrested in California Wearing U.S. Marine Uniforms

    I’m Captain Perez of the Pretend Marines
    My uniform is starched and clean
    But really, I am not a gyrine
    And neither am I in the Army
    I crossed the border and took a chance
    But first I put on these camo pants
    So people would not look at me askance
    And La Migra just mightn’t harm me

    —apologies to “Captain Jinks of the Horse Marines”


  33. Alberta Oil Peon
    34 | March 22, 2011 8:55 pm

    @ Guggi:
    And every one of those solar panels is covered with 10-50% snow. You don’t think that reduces their output?

    They need a million squeegee kids to keep ‘em clean.


  34. 35 | March 22, 2011 8:57 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    That’s tomorrow night’s thread! I even included one of his most recent singing clips.


  35. 36 | March 22, 2011 8:57 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Brick wrote:
    Spot on. Bring on the nukes. I remember TMI. It was bad because it was the first. Now…not so much. Still, nobody died. Happened right around the time that Hollywood released the masterpiece, The China Syndrome.

    TMI was not the first US melt-down.
    How We Almost Lost Detroit in 1966.

    Yea, I’m pretty sure one of the research reactors at Hanford melted down in the mid 50′s too, but because of the cold war it was hushed up until just a couple of years ago.


  36. 37 | March 22, 2011 8:57 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Yeah I saw that. pretty dangerous also. But they all had the name “Perez” on their Uniflorm?

    Yeah that’s a give away.


  37. 38 | March 22, 2011 8:58 pm

    O/T: Proxy war between Iran and KSA?


  38. Alberta Oil Peon
    39 | March 22, 2011 8:58 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    They spelled it wrong. It was supposed to be “Pez”, since they pop out of a dispenser.


  39. Guggi
    40 | March 22, 2011 9:00 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    And every one of those solar panels is covered with 10-50% snow. You don’t think that reduces their output?
    They need a million squeegee kids to keep ‘em clean.

    And don’t ask about the costs: from 2000 to 2008 German tax-payers and consumers had to pay additional Euro 37 Billion and although Germany has cut subsides now in 2009 tax-payers and consumers pay another Euro 10 Billion.


  40. 41 | March 22, 2011 9:00 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    O/T: Proxy war between Iran and KSA?

    A suicide bombing fight!

    :lol:


  41. 42 | March 22, 2011 9:02 pm

    @ lobo91:
    I remember being tossed into the waves before I could swim by a sadistic jerk. Terrifying. I couldn’t breathe nor could tell up from down. My mother had to pull me out. That’s why that clip disturbs me so much.


  42. 43 | March 22, 2011 9:03 pm

    Libya was 20% of foreign fighters in Iraq.


  43. Prebanned
    44 | March 22, 2011 9:04 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:
    If you’ve ever said allah ackbar while watching your friend drown thier kid.
    You might be a muslim.


  44. 45 | March 22, 2011 9:06 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Wow! 13 Illegal Immigrants Arrested in California Wearing U.S. Marine Uniforms

    The illegal immigrants were clad in Marine uniforms when they were apprehended at the Campo Border Patrol Westbound I-8 checkpoint at 11 p.m. on March 14 near Pine Valley, Calif.,

    I pass through that check point every couple of months, never with any illegal aliens though, usually just a shit load of legal Beer…


  45. Philip_Daniel
    46 | March 22, 2011 9:06 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Philip_Daniel:
    That’s tomorrow night’s thread! I even included one of his most recent singing clips.


  46. Nevergiveup
    47 | March 22, 2011 9:07 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Wow! 13 Illegal Immigrants Arrested in California Wearing U.S. Marine Uniforms

    The illegal immigrants were clad in Marine uniforms when they were apprehended at the Campo Border Patrol Westbound I-8 checkpoint at 11 p.m. on March 14 near Pine Valley, Calif.,

    I pass through that check point every couple of months, never with any illegal aliens though, usually just a shit load of legal Beer…

    Is beer cheaper in Mexico?


  47. 48 | March 22, 2011 9:08 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    I remember being tossed into the waves before I could swim by a sadistic jerk. Terrifying. I couldn’t breathe nor could tell up from down. My mother had to pull me out. That’s why that clip disturbs me so much.

    That sadistic jerk in my case was my dad, he was old skool navy, that’s how he taught me to swim.


  48. buzzsawmonkey
    49 | March 22, 2011 9:10 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Is beer cheaper in Mexico?

    They give you cerveza with a smile.


  49. Nevergiveup
    50 | March 22, 2011 9:11 pm

    Naked Woman Rescued From Cliff in California

    Naked women on cliffs? Maybe CA ain’t all that bad?


  50. 51 | March 22, 2011 9:11 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Is beer cheaper in Mexico?

    It was when I was there in 2008.


  51. Nevergiveup
    52 | March 22, 2011 9:13 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Is beer cheaper in Mexico?

    It was when I was there in 2008.

    The Air Fare would kill me?


  52. 53 | March 22, 2011 9:13 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Wow! 13 Illegal Immigrants Arrested in California Wearing U.S. Marine Uniforms
    The illegal immigrants were clad in Marine uniforms when they were apprehended at the Campo Border Patrol Westbound I-8 checkpoint at 11 p.m. on March 14 near Pine Valley, Calif.,
    I pass through that check point every couple of months, never with any illegal aliens though, usually just a shit load of legal Beer…

    Is beer cheaper in Mexico?

    Whose buying the beer in Mexico? I’m taking it to my friends house, he lives about 10 miles past that check point, out in the absolute middle of no-fucking-where. The closest store to him is 20 miles away. He is about half way between the border and that check-point. I would go out there more often, cause the road is way twisty and turny, but it’s like 90 miles from where I live.


  53. Da_Beerfreak
    54 | March 22, 2011 9:13 pm

    From the you know it’s only going to get worse file:
    Palestinians use Responsibility to Protect Doctrine (R2P) to call on international community to clamp down in Israel


  54. Nevergiveup
    55 | March 22, 2011 9:14 pm

    A New York man facing a driving while intoxicated charge showed up to court for a hearing, but was sent to jail before he even had a chance to step into the courtroom.
    Keith Gruber, 49, of Swan Lake, arrived for his appointment 90 minutes late with an open can of beer while acting visibly drunk, officials said. At the security check, authorities uncovered four additional cans of Busch beer in a black bag Gruber was attempting to carry into the courtroom, the Times Herald-Record reports.
    The bag was then presented to the judge, who in turn relieved Gruber’s attorney from the case and put the suspect in jail with no bail.
    Gruber said he was sorry for the incident and tried to throw away the open beer can – but officers stopped him.

    In his defense, if I lived in Swan Lake, I’d be drunk all day also


  55. Bumr50
    56 | March 22, 2011 9:14 pm

    France has proposed that a new political steering committee outside Nato be responsible for overseeing military operations over Libya.

    A STEERING COMMITTEE!!

    Nuff said!


  56. lobo91
    57 | March 22, 2011 9:14 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    And every one of those solar panels is covered with 10-50% snow. You don’t think that reduces their output?
    They need a million squeegee kids to keep ‘em clean.

    DOD is getting on the solar panel bandwagon, too.

    There’s a big solar farm near the 10th SF Group compound at Ft Carson.

    And they’re building one near the south gate of the Air Force Academy, too.


  57. lobo91
    58 | March 22, 2011 9:16 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Saw that coming…


  58. Guggi
    59 | March 22, 2011 9:18 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    In his defense, if I lived in Swan Lake, I’d be drunk all day also

    What’s sp depressing in Swan lake ?


  59. 60 | March 22, 2011 9:18 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Saw that coming…

    Israel should ask for a military assault on the Palestinians under the exact same clause, just site the katusha rockets as the provocation.


  60. 61 | March 22, 2011 9:19 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    In his defense, if I lived in Swan Lake, I’d be drunk all day also

    ROTFLMAO… considering how much you drink Doc, I figured you did live there… :razz:


  61. 62 | March 22, 2011 9:20 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Sorry to hear it. The sadistic jerk in my case was my mother’s ex boyfriend. I begged him not to do it before he laughed and let my hands go.

    Later on at summer camp I was taught by swim instructors like a normal human being.


  62. 63 | March 22, 2011 9:20 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    The Air Fare would kill me?

    Yeah now it would with rising oil prices. Also it’s very dangerous now.

    I recommend the Caribbean for cheap beer!


  63. Da_Beerfreak
    64 | March 22, 2011 9:21 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    You’re right on that. I should have pointed out that was the first commercial power station accident. Using the Fermi 1 rector for prototyping the fast breeder design was not too smart that close to a major city.


  64. buzzsawmonkey
    65 | March 22, 2011 9:22 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    From the you know it’s only going to get worse file:
    Palestinians use Responsibility to Protect Doctrine (R2P) to call on international community to clamp down in Israel

    That disgusting squishy sound you hear is Samantha Power creaming her jeans.


  65. Nevergiveup
    66 | March 22, 2011 9:22 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    In his defense, if I lived in Swan Lake, I’d be drunk all day also

    What’s sp depressing in Swan lake ?

    Ah nothing really. It’s off RT 17 NY and it’s kinda neither there nor here if ya know what I mean


  66. Nevergiveup
    67 | March 22, 2011 9:23 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    In his defense, if I lived in Swan Lake, I’d be drunk all day also

    ROTFLMAO… considering how much you drink Doc, I figured you did live there…

    Actually I don’t drink all that much anymore. But my tastes have gotten more expensive


  67. waldensianspirit
    68 | March 22, 2011 9:24 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:
    You WERE in the way…


  68. Da_Beerfreak
    69 | March 22, 2011 9:25 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    That’s going to require a whole bunch of brain bleach to get rid of that image… :shock:


  69. 70 | March 22, 2011 9:25 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    From the you know it’s only going to get worse file:
    Palestinians use Responsibility to Protect Doctrine (R2P) to call on international community to clamp down in Israel
    That disgusting squishy sound you hear is Samantha Power creaming her jeans.

    Funny thing, if Power were a Republican, her blatant anti-Semitic writings would have had every Democrat and liberal in the nation screaming that she be fired, instead because she is a Democrat they say nothing what so ever, even the damned GOP leadership says nothing.


  70. waldensianspirit
    71 | March 22, 2011 9:25 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    What’s so depressing in Swan lake ?

    Standing on the point of your toes?


  71. 72 | March 22, 2011 9:27 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    That’s going to require a whole bunch of brain bleach to get rid of that image…

    Pass the ear plugs too.


  72. Nevergiveup
    73 | March 22, 2011 9:27 pm

    U.S. issues Bahrain travel warning over threat of violent political protests (Reuters

    So Bahrain gets travel warning, but Libya gets shock and awe? hum, travel warning or shock and awe?


  73. Nevergiveup
    74 | March 22, 2011 9:28 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Guggi wrote:

    What’s so depressing in Swan lake ?

    Standing on the point of your toes?

    Is that worse than hanging by your thumbs?


  74. 75 | March 22, 2011 9:28 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Isn’t Samantha Powers married to Cass Sunstein?


  75. buzzsawmonkey
    76 | March 22, 2011 9:28 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Funny thing, if Power were a Republican, her blatant anti-Semitic writings would have had every Democrat and liberal in the nation screaming that she be fired, instead because she is a Democrat they say nothing what so ever, even the damned GOP leadership says nothing.

    She bought the best possible protection—a JINO husband.


  76. 77 | March 22, 2011 9:28 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    U.S. issues Bahrain travel warning over threat of violent political protests (Reuters
    So Bahrain gets travel warning, but Libya gets shock and awe? hum, travel warning or shock and awe?

    SA’s King has not called for his “Blue Eye’s” to intervene in Bahrain yet, so it’s just a travel warning.


  77. lobo91
    78 | March 22, 2011 9:29 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Isn’t Samantha Powers married to Cass Sunstein?

    Yup


  78. 79 | March 22, 2011 9:30 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Isn’t Samantha Powers married to Cass Sunstein?

    Have you read any of the crap he has written? He’s as bad as she is, Jew or not, he’s anti-Semitic.


  79. lobo91
    81 | March 22, 2011 9:31 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    U.S. issues Bahrain travel warning over threat of violent political protests (Reuters
    So Bahrain gets travel warning, but Libya gets shock and awe? hum, travel warning or shock and awe?

    I guess I’ll have to change my vacation plans…
    //


  80. Philip_Daniel
    82 | March 22, 2011 9:31 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Have you read any of the crap he has written? He’s as bad as she is, Jew or not, he’s anti-Semitic.

    As a “genocide scholar”, Samantha Power refuses to acknowledge the well-documented Pan-Islamic component to the Armenian genocide, only concentrating on the Pan-Turkic component.


  81. Nevergiveup
    83 | March 22, 2011 9:31 pm

    CABLE NEWS RACE
    MON. MAR. 21, 2011

    FOXNEWS O’REILLY 3,271,000
    FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,432.000
    FOXNEWS BECK 2,334,000
    FOXNEWS BAIER 2,301,000
    FOXNEWS SHEP 2,039,000
    FOXNEWS GRETA 1,691,000
    CNN COOPER 1,170,000
    CNN BLITZER 1,028,000
    CNN PIERS 958,000
    MSNBC MADDOW 933,000
    CNN KING 927,000
    MSNBC O’DONNELL 817,000
    MSNBC SHULTS 810,000
    MSNBC HARDBALL 784,000

    Pretty funny


  82. 84 | March 22, 2011 9:32 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:
    I guess. He sucked big time. Always chewing gum. Best moment? The time my sister with one puff bounced the paper wrapper from a drinking straw off his nose from clear across the table at a restaurant in Coney Island. :)


  83. waldensianspirit
    85 | March 22, 2011 9:32 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:
    Different Jesus but don’t tell Charles Nodickens. Of course, Nodickens’ll love the islamic Jesus; they claim he’ll come as a witness against me and you.


  84. 86 | March 22, 2011 9:33 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
    @ Guggi:
    And every one of those solar panels is covered with 10-50% snow. You don’t think that reduces their output?
    They need a million squeegee kids to keep ‘em clean.
    DOD is getting on the solar panel bandwagon, too.
    There’s a big solar farm near the 10th SF Group compound at Ft Carson.
    And they’re building one near the south gate of the Air Force Academy, too.

    Solar is practical for niche uses only. I have a small solar panel on the motorhome roof. It trickle-charges the coach batteries so that they won’t drain completely dead when the coach is parked for awhile with power off.


  85. 87 | March 22, 2011 9:34 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Yes I have. In my profession I’ve worked with him on one of his books.


  86. The Osprey
    88 | March 22, 2011 9:35 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    O/T: Proxy war between Iran and KSA?

    As much as I’d like to see the House of Fraud and the Twelvers killing each other off, problem is their war will set the middle east aflame and we will see $200 a barrel oil.

    And our troops in Iraq and the Israelis will be caught in the middle of it.

    Only silver lining in the cloud is that we may end up with Allen West as President as a result of it as he seems like the only guy who can articulate the dangers emanating from the Muslim world and has the leadership skills to guide our ship of state though this mess.


  87. 89 | March 22, 2011 9:36 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    1389AD wrote:
    O/T: Proxy war between Iran and KSA?
    A suicide bombing fight!

    More here.


  88. 90 | March 22, 2011 9:36 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    I’m surprised that some of the shows on FOX Business Network aren’t on that list. They have to be doing better than MSNBC and CNN.


  89. 91 | March 22, 2011 9:37 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    Only silver lining in the cloud is that we may end up with Allen West as President as a result of it as he seems like the only guy who can articulate the dangers emanating from the Muslim world and has the leadership skills to guide our ship of state though this mess.

    From your lips to God’s ears.


  90. lobo91
    92 | March 22, 2011 9:37 pm

    @ 1389AD:

    Once we cut everyone’s energy use by 90% it’ll be practical…


  91. 93 | March 22, 2011 9:37 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    1389AD wrote:
    O/T: Proxy war between Iran and KSA?
    As much as I’d like to see the House of Fraud and the Twelvers killing each other off, problem is their war will set the middle east aflame and we will see $200 a barrel oil.
    And our troops in Iraq and the Israelis will be caught in the middle of it.
    Only silver lining in the cloud is that we may end up with Allen West as President as a result of it as he seems like the only guy who can articulate the dangers emanating from the Muslim world and has the leadership skills to guide our ship of state though this mess.

    I’m not getting out the popcorn here. More like Tylenol, Tums, and Pepto Bismol.


  92. 94 | March 22, 2011 9:38 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Yes I have. In my profession I’ve worked with him on one of his books.

    <—- Backs slowly away from Urban Infidel… Girl, there are things that even I, a former rock Star will not do for money…


  93. 95 | March 22, 2011 9:38 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    Once we cut everyone’s energy use by 90% it’ll be practical…

    The moonbats want to do that by cutting the POPULATION by that much. Starting with the likes of US. :(


  94. 96 | March 22, 2011 9:39 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ 1389AD:
    Once we cut everyone’s energy use by 90% it’ll be practical…
    The moonbats want to do that by cutting the POPULATION by that much. Starting with the likes of US.

    Let them prove their dedication to Mother Giai by going first.


  95. lobo91
    97 | March 22, 2011 9:40 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    I’m surprised that some of the shows on FOX Business Network aren’t on that list. They have to be doing better than MSNBC and CNN.

    Could be because Fox Business isn’t carried by as many cable systems, or that it’s not part of the basic packages.


  96. 98 | March 22, 2011 9:41 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ 1389AD:
    Once we cut everyone’s energy use by 90% it’ll be practical…

    This is the lifestyle that the tree-huggers have in mind for us. Not for themselves, of course…


  97. buzzsawmonkey
    99 | March 22, 2011 9:42 pm

    Bob Gates’ Blues

    Got your trousers ’round your ankles
    Got your dick there in your hand
    Got your trousers ’round your ankles, yes
    Got your dick wavin’ in your hand
    Four weeks without no plannin’
    You go bomb a foreign land

    Oh, you’re tryin’ to save the rebels
    Though you don’t know who they are
    Yes, tryin’ to save the rebels, Lord
    But you don’t know who they are
    If you don’t know who you’re helping,
    Why did you send the boys so far?

    Oh, the Arab League was whinin’
    ‘Bout that nasty Gaddafi
    Yes, the Arab League was whinin’
    ‘Bout that nasty Gaddafi
    But when time came to do something,
    They said, “That’s for you, not me.”


  98. 100 | March 22, 2011 9:42 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    <—- Backs slowly away from Urban Infidel… Girl, there are things that even I, a former rock Star will not do for money…

    Without totally giving myself away, I could add a whole roster, a rogues gallery if you will, of the biggest anti-semites as well as members of former and current administration and cabinet. It’s a living. It’s what I do. It’s interesting as hell and I do stir the pot. And no one knows I’m doing it.


  99. waldensianspirit
    101 | March 22, 2011 9:43 pm

    Obama? You have a Responsibility to Protect Syrian rebels too. Get on it


  100. 102 | March 22, 2011 9:43 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Naked Woman Rescued From Cliff in California
    Naked women on cliffs? Maybe CA ain’t all that bad?

    The article declines to speculate on why the woman was on the cliff, but I suspect that alcohol and/or other psychoactive drugs were part of the picture.


  101. Philip_Daniel
    103 | March 22, 2011 9:43 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Yes I have. In my profession I’ve worked with him on one of his books.

    Which one?


  102. The Osprey
    104 | March 22, 2011 9:45 pm

    A new computer virus has been detected that you may wish to guard against:

    This is the Palestinian Virus–a virus that settles
    in your PC, claims it was there before your PC was
    built or Bill Gates was born, then demands
    parts of your hard drive.

    If you want the virus to leave you and your PC
    alone, you can try to give the virus the hard drive
    space it wants, but it will refuse the deal and
    start killing data on your computer.

    Some people have suggested a solution for this virus
    problem is to give the virus its own PC. As stated
    above, this virus has been known to refuse the
    offer. Other nearby PCs won’t take the virus either,
    even if the virus is compatible with the other
    computers. The virus seems to want nothing
    less than to take over your entire computer together
    with the removal and destruction of all your data.

    Software based anti-virus solutions have been
    proposed, but so far only hardware solutions have had
    any impact. The only solution we have been able
    to determine that may work is the physical removal
    of the virus from your computer.

    The only problem with this solution is all the other
    computers will object, and you will be castigated in
    the media and by the U.N.


  103. lobo91
    105 | March 22, 2011 9:45 pm

    @ 1389AD:

    This is the lifestyle that the tree-huggers have in mind for us. Not for themselves, of course…

    As someone once said, “You can’t always get what you want…”


  104. 106 | March 22, 2011 9:45 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    <—- Backs slowly away from Urban Infidel… Girl, there are things that even I, a former rock Star will not do for money…
    Without totally giving myself away, I could add a whole roster, a rogues gallery if you will, of the biggest anti-semites as well as members of former and current administration and cabinet. It’s a living. It’s what I do. It’s interesting as hell and I do stir the pot. And no one knows I’m doing it.

    I hope you write a tell-all book and/or blog afterward, and I hope that you pull absolutely no punches whatsoever.


  105. Prebanned
    107 | March 22, 2011 9:45 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:
    I heard something about an anti-christ. Hmmm.


  106. 108 | March 22, 2011 9:47 pm

    Philip_Daniel wrote:

    Which one?

    I’ll be glad to tell you offline if you email me. I’d be happy to tell all of you but I don’t want to broadcast it here.


  107. 109 | March 22, 2011 9:48 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:
    Naked Woman Rescued From Cliff in California
    Naked women on cliffs? Maybe CA ain’t all that bad?
    The article declines to speculate on why the woman was on the cliff, but I suspect that alcohol and/or other psychoactive drugs were part of the picture.

    No, actually the article was very clear why she was on that cliff. She was on the way to Black’s Beach, it’s San Diego California’s local clothing optional beach. There are three ways to get to the beach, it’s a ten mile walk either coming down from the north or going up from the south. Or it’s a half mile walk if you walk down the trails from the over looking cliffs, which are about 400 feet high. She, like the vast majority of nude sunbathers who go to Blacks Beach, chose the shorter, but more dangerous route.


  108. Alberta Oil Peon
    110 | March 22, 2011 9:48 pm

    @ 1389AD:
    Ironically, one of the more common uses of solar panels I see around here is by oil companies, who use them power telemetry instruments on remote wellheads and batteries.

    You have to look a the whole package; not just the cost per kWhr, but the cost of stringing in wires from the grid. They use grid power where practical, but solar is often more practical in remote sites.


  109. 111 | March 22, 2011 9:49 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    I hope you write a tell-all book and/or blog afterward, and I hope that you pull absolutely no punches whatsoever.

    Evil laugh.. Oh boy would I love to!


  110. 112 | March 22, 2011 9:52 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    1389AD wrote:
    I hope you write a tell-all book and/or blog afterward, and I hope that you pull absolutely no punches whatsoever.
    Evil laugh.. Oh boy would I love to!

    So do it, just don’t give away any national secrets (Well that Julian Asange didn’t already)… :twisted:


  111. buzzsawmonkey
    113 | March 22, 2011 9:52 pm

    ‘Nite, folks.


  112. 114 | March 22, 2011 9:53 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    ‘Nite, folks.

    Night Buzz…


  113. Prebanned
    115 | March 22, 2011 9:53 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Night!


  114. Alberta Oil Peon
    116 | March 22, 2011 9:54 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    I suppose that improving the trails would put one afoul of some loony California environmental statute?

    “Ohmigod, you’re destroying the habitat of the California Goggle-eyed Sand Flea!”


  115. waldensianspirit
    117 | March 22, 2011 9:54 pm

    Libyan war rattles Democratic political strategists in lead up to 2012 presidential election

    Ehehehehhhe! Sweat you sammammabeotches

    Here is a suggestion, try harder to snatch guns from the clingers

    ht hotair


  116. 118 | March 22, 2011 9:56 pm

    Dem strategists worry: How will the Libya war play next year during the campaign?

    “I don’t see any upside, I don’t see him gaining him any voters,” said Dave ‘Mudcat’ Saunders, a Democratic consultant who specializes in reaching out to white voters in Appalachia. The risk will be minimized if the intervention “is over in a day or two… [or] a week or two,” he said. The voters he watches are “tired of body-bags coming back to the mountains… we don’t need another American war now,” he said.

    “It is appalling that the White House has failed to explain why we are there, and how long we’re going to be there,” said Brad Crone, a Raleigh-based Democratic strategist in swing-state North Carolina. Another war “is the last thing the economy needs,” he said…

    Saunders pointed to the Washington Post’s Monday issue, which featured a front-page picture of an exploding armored-artillery gun, and an inside-picture of the president playing soccer with a child in Brazil, during his long-planned five-day trip of South America. “When we are sending men and women into harm’s way, not knowing what’s happening, the president should have his hand on the throttle,” not his foot on a soccer ball, he said. The contrasting images of soldiers at war and the president at peace “will look bad to anyone outside the Beltway, Democratic, Republican or independent,” he said. “I think it is politically bizarre,” he said.

    The wheels on the Bus fall off off off, off off off, off off off, the Wheels on the Bus fall off off off, all through the year…


  117. 119 | March 22, 2011 9:57 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    So do it, just don’t give away any national secrets (Well that Julian Asange didn’t already)… :twisted:

    I wish, but I have to keep my day job. It’s not easy having two secret lives. There’s things I do on my blog that I can’t tell anyone at work. There have been many times I wanted to share work stuff with you guys but I can’t. Unless I switch industries or make a million bucks on my own book, I’m staying in my perch.


  118. 120 | March 22, 2011 9:59 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I suppose that improving the trails would put one afoul of some loony California environmental statute?
    “Ohmigod, you’re destroying the habitat of the California Goggle-eyed Sand Flea!”

    Or something like that…

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Dang it, you beat me by 2 whole minutes… :oops:


  119. waldensianspirit
  120. The Osprey
    122 | March 22, 2011 10:00 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:
    Naked Woman Rescued From Cliff in California
    Naked women on cliffs? Maybe CA ain’t all that bad?
    The article declines to speculate on why the woman was on the cliff, but I suspect that alcohol and/or other psychoactive drugs were part of the picture.

    It happened above Black’s Beach in San Diego which is a well known nudist beach…maybe she just took the wrong trail and got lost…but now if it happened near Santa Cruz I would definitely say psychoactives were involved…


  121. waldensianspirit
    123 | March 22, 2011 10:03 pm

    Here is Ron White doing his dorian impression:


  122. 124 | March 22, 2011 10:04 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHT84A5t418

    Heh heh heh, same guy who put the tires on Ron’s van must have put the tires on Obama’s bus…


  123. 125 | March 22, 2011 10:07 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    1389AD wrote:
    Nevergiveup wrote:
    Naked Woman Rescued From Cliff in California
    Naked women on cliffs? Maybe CA ain’t all that bad?
    The article declines to speculate on why the woman was on the cliff, but I suspect that alcohol and/or other psychoactive drugs were part of the picture.
    It happened above Black’s Beach in San Diego which is a well known nudist beach…maybe she just took the wrong trail and got lost…but now if it happened near Santa Cruz I would definitely say psychoactives were involved…

    Why didn’t she disrobe AFTER she got to the beach?


  124. 126 | March 22, 2011 10:17 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    Why didn’t she disrobe AFTER she got to the beach?

    It’s California, ya really got to ask a question like that?


  125. Eliana
    127 | March 22, 2011 10:18 pm

    @ 1389AD:

    Why didn’t she disrobe AFTER she got to the beach?

    Maybe she didn’t want to fall down on top of naked people while wearing clothes (because it might make them feel uncomfortable).

    Or else, people are supposed to show up naked before they get onto the beach so that they aren’t viewed as possible lookie-loos.


  126. snowcrash
    128 | March 22, 2011 10:21 pm

    Many, many greens are not anti nuke. Brave new climate blog is full of them. They realistically know the sun and wind will not provide dense enough power sources for modern life. So if they had to chose between carbon based or nuclear, many go nuke.


  127. lobo91
    129 | March 22, 2011 10:23 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    Many, many greens are not anti nuke. Brave new climate blog is full of them. They realistically know the sun and wind will not provide dense enough power sources for modern life. So if they had to chose between carbon based or nuclear, many go nuke.

    Too bad nobody in the Obama administration understands that…


  128. Alberta Oil Peon
    130 | March 22, 2011 10:23 pm

    @ Eliana:
    Was she on her way to the beach, or from it? Maybe she had gotten down there, stripped off, and had some sort of bad experience that made her want to get the hell out ASAP.


  129. Eliana
    131 | March 22, 2011 10:25 pm

    @ Alberta Oil Peon:

    Was she on her way to the beach, or from it? Maybe she had gotten down there, stripped off, and had some sort of bad experience that made her want to get the hell out ASAP.

    Yeah – maybe she thought she could hitchhike a lot faster without clothes (so she could make a fast getaway).


  130. 132 | March 22, 2011 10:26 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ Eliana:
    Was she on her way to the beach, or from it? Maybe she had gotten down there, stripped off, and had some sort of bad experience that made her want to get the hell out ASAP.

    Or more likely was looking for a place to take a pee part way up the cliff in a small canyon and got stuck.


  131. Alberta Oil Peon
    133 | March 22, 2011 10:26 pm

    @ lobo91:
    I’m sure they do understand. They want the USA to fail. It’s a feature, not a bug.


  132. 134 | March 22, 2011 10:27 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    There are no public facilities at Blacks Beach, it is a moderately remote beach.


  133. Alberta Oil Peon
    135 | March 22, 2011 10:29 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Of course, it does have the entire Pacific Ocean to take a pee in.


  134. snowcrash
    136 | March 22, 2011 10:29 pm

    @ Alberta Oil Peon:
    Stephen Chu certainly knows.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Chu


  135. m
    137 | March 22, 2011 10:30 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    My uncles did the same to me. (at least that’s how the story goes – I don’t ever remember learning how to swim, it’s like I just always knew)


  136. 138 | March 22, 2011 10:31 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
    @ Eliana:
    Was she on her way to the beach, or from it? Maybe she had gotten down there, stripped off, and had some sort of bad experience that made her want to get the hell out ASAP.
    Or more likely was looking for a place to take a pee part way up the cliff in a small canyon and got stuck.

    Don’t hippies usually pee when they’re in the ocean?


  137. lobo91
    140 | March 22, 2011 10:33 pm

    m wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    My uncles did the same to me. (at least that’s how the story goes – I don’t ever remember learning how to swim, it’s like I just always knew)

    That’s where four-legged critters have an advantage over us.

    They pretty much just walk in the water, so they don’t have to learn anything.


  138. Alberta Oil Peon
    141 | March 22, 2011 10:34 pm

    @ snowcrash:
    Yet he believes in AGW. He’s too smart to be stupid, so he has to be evil. There’s no other explanation.


  139. 142 | March 22, 2011 10:34 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    This is blacks Beach… http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=32.89043+-117.25344&aq=&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=43.037246,107.138672&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=16

    Zoom in and out to see the cliffs, they are at least 400 feet high.


  140. lobo91
    143 | March 22, 2011 10:35 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ snowcrash:
    Yet he believes in AGW. He’s too smart to be stupid, so he has to be evil. There’s no other explanation.

    Or he’s getting paid off…


  141. Alberta Oil Peon
    144 | March 22, 2011 10:37 pm

    @ lobo91:
    That falls under “evil” in my lexicon.


  142. 145 | March 22, 2011 10:37 pm

    @ Alberta Oil Peon:
    @ 1389AD:

    Either of you ever been in the water off Southern California? It isn’t as warm as most people think, this time of year it’s down right cold, 54 degree’s and only 68 to 70 degree’s on the beach. Not likely anyone is going in the water just to take a pee. Only the hard core surfers are in the water this time of year.


  143. huckfunn
    146 | March 22, 2011 10:41 pm

    When was the last time any sane person agreed with Dennis Kucinich? Kucinich: Libya action ‘impeachable’


  144. Alberta Oil Peon
    147 | March 22, 2011 10:42 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Well, think how good you’ll feel once you come out. But really, I was just kidding a little. Your theory is quite plausible.


  145. lobo91
    148 | March 22, 2011 10:44 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    When was the last time any sane person agreed with Dennis Kucinich? Kucinich: Libya action ‘impeachable’

    We already decided yesterday that that’s one of the signs of the Apocalypse.


  146. refugee000
    149 | March 22, 2011 10:46 pm

    Libya
    Can anyone say “clusterfuck”

    Hussein is trying to palm off control of the operation and everyone is saying “not me”

    Geez….


  147. 150 | March 22, 2011 10:46 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Well, think how good you’ll feel once you come out. But really, I was just kidding a little. Your theory is quite plausible.

    ROTFLMAO… You don’t feel good coming out, you feel like you are going to freeze to death. There is always a off shore breeze this time a year, so even though it 68 or 70 degree’s it’s slightly chilly.

    I know my theory is plausible, I’ve been to that beach, a couple of times… for.. ummm research purposes, of course… :oops:


  148. snowcrash
    151 | March 22, 2011 10:47 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    Lately I’m agreeing with Ron Paul. The world seems topsy turvey.


  149. 152 | March 22, 2011 10:49 pm

    @ lobo91:
    @ snowcrash:

    That’s how the Apocalypse get’s you, things get so weird you suddenly find yourself agreeing with the crazy people and BANG… it’s the Apocalypse…


  150. 153 | March 22, 2011 10:50 pm

    New DOD.

    Chuck’s dream


  151. huckfunn
    154 | March 22, 2011 10:51 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    When was the last time any sane person agreed with Dennis Kucinich? Kucinich: Libya action ‘impeachable’

    We already decided yesterday that that’s one of the signs of the Apocalypse.

    Dang! I missed it. Well, as long as it’s decided, I guess I’ll go along with it. :roll:


  152. huckfunn
    155 | March 22, 2011 10:53 pm

    snowcrash wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    Lately I’m agreeing with Ron Paul. The world seems topsy turvey.

    doriangrey wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    @ snowcrash:

    That’s how the Apocalypse get’s you, things get so weird you suddenly find yourself agreeing with the crazy people and BANG… it’s the Apocalypse…

    Strange days indeed… most peculiar mama


  153. Eliana
    156 | March 22, 2011 10:54 pm

    So, the whole “1000 times worse than Hiroshima” crowd are feeling a bit red-faced about the claim after seeing the actual results of an earthquake and a tsunami on somewhat outdated nuclear facilities in Japan, eh?


  154. 157 | March 22, 2011 10:54 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    snowcrash wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    Lately I’m agreeing with Ron Paul. The world seems topsy turvey.

    doriangrey wrote:
    @ lobo91:
    @ snowcrash:
    That’s how the Apocalypse get’s you, things get so weird you suddenly find yourself agreeing with the crazy people and BANG… it’s the Apocalypse…

    Strange days indeed… most peculiar mama

    Yup, and I have a bad feeling the it’s only going to get stranger… :sock:


  155. 158 | March 22, 2011 10:56 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Dedicated to America…


  156. lobo91
    159 | March 22, 2011 10:57 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    So, the whole “1000 times worse than Hiroshima” crowd are feeling a bit red-faced about the claim after seeing the actual results of an earthquake and a tsunami on somewhat outdated nuclear facilities in Japan, eh?

    I caught an amusing call to Levin’s show yesterday.

    This guys basically said, “In WWII, we dropped 2 atom bombs on Japan, right? And that released about a million times more radiation than these powerplants have, right? If nobody in California died from those bombs, why would they worry about the powerplants?”

    I had to admit, he had a point…


  157. Alberta Oil Peon
    160 | March 22, 2011 10:58 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    So what do experienced beach-goers do when the need arises to answer a call of Nature? As it no doubt will, once you have consumed all those adult beverages you laboriously toted down the trail…

    Seems to me some kind of portable cabana or screen, and a hole dug in the sand would answer.

    Of course, the obvious solution is provide a number of port-a-potties.


  158. The Osprey
    161 | March 22, 2011 11:00 pm

    I think the apocalypse has arrived, when you start seeing events like 9.1 earthquakes and wars without congressional approval and no clear objective as normal everyday happenings.

    I’ll be back in a bit, running out for more silver coins, beans and ammo.


  159. huckfunn
    162 | March 22, 2011 11:01 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Yup, and I have a bad feeling the it’s only going to get stranger… :sock:

    Everything is moving at such a fast pace; much faster than what you and I grew up with. It will get much stranger much faster. Damn! It already has.


  160. Alberta Oil Peon
    163 | March 22, 2011 11:03 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Not to mention the fact that the mushroom cloud basically injects all those radionuclides right into the stratosphere, where the jet stream can latch onto them and carry them thousands of miles. The low-energy venting of a damaged reactor, if it gets outside at all, will simply flow downhill under the influence of gravity, and settle in low areas downwind. Most of that stuff is heavy.


  161. 164 | March 22, 2011 11:05 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    Of course, the obvious solution is provide a number of port-a-potties.

    The obvious solution isnt quite as obvious as it might seem. How do you get them there? There is no road access to Black’s Beach, half of the day tide heights at points both north and south of the beach make it impossible to drive down the beach, plus those places where the tide heights make it impossible don’t actually have beach’s, they are places where the ocean pretty much goes right up against the cliffs and only at the lowest point of the tide can 4WD vehicles get past.


  162. 165 | March 22, 2011 11:06 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    So what do experienced beach-goers do when the need arises to answer a call of Nature? As it no doubt will, once you have consumed all those adult beverages you laboriously toted down the trail…

    They go find a secluded canyon along the cliff and do their business.


  163. 166 | March 22, 2011 11:19 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
    So what do experienced beach-goers do when the need arises to answer a call of Nature? As it no doubt will, once you have consumed all those adult beverages you laboriously toted down the trail…
    They go find a secluded canyon along the cliff and do their business.

    Phew. Remind me not to visit that place. I hate flies.


  164. Alberta Oil Peon
    167 | March 22, 2011 11:20 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Ahh, the irony! Make access to the beach difficult, to preserve it as a “natural” environment, and then it becomes so popular, that people doing what comes naturally, eventually befoul the place.

    There is a similarly-situated beach in Vancouver, B.C., called Wreck Beach, that faces the same problem.

    Sometimes a little development is good thing. Port-a-potties could be brought in using a hovercraft, or landing craft.


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