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Islam and Sex Slavery

by 1389AD ( 125 Comments › )
Filed under Egypt, Islam, Jihad, Koran at June 15th, 2011 - 8:00 pm

Video: Shaykh al-Huwayni: “When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her”

By Al Mutarjim

After Egyptian Shaykh Abu-Ishaq al-Huwayni’s controversial comments about jihad and slavery (see here) were published on YouTube, Facebook, and also in Egyptian press, he was given the opportunity to respond in a telephone interview aired on the Islamic satellite television station al-Hikma on 22 May 2011. In his approximately 20-minute response, he contended that his words in that clip were taken out of context–he was talking within the larger topic of offensive jihad. In this interview he explained the meaning of offensive jihad, and established through sources in the Qur’an and sayings of Muhammad that both offensive jihad and the taking of spoils of war, namely slaves and “sex-slaves,” are legitimate under Islam.

I condensed the 20-minute interview down to about 8 and a half minutes; the subtitled video is above, and the transcript is below:

[...] It is clear that offensive jihad, which I was talking about in that interview, that its purpose is to call people to Islam, and it is not permissible for anyone to hide the divine guidance from the people, under any name. They rejected Islam and the jizya, that’s it. The Prophet (PBUH) said: “If they refuse, then seek Allah’s aid and fight them.” If fighting occurs, there is going to be a winner and a loser. If the army of the Muslims is victorious, it will take spoils. Taking spoils is a fixed ruling in the Qur’an. Allah permitted it at the day of the Battle of Badr, as it is (recorded) in Surat al-Anfal. Allah Almighty said: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer,- if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing,- the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things” [Qur'an 8:41].

This (position) on spoils is clear. There is also the saying in the two Sahihs [Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim] from Abi-Hurayra, the first of which is, “One among the prophets (PBUH) raided…” In the other hadith from Yush’a bin Nun, the Prophet (PBUH) said, “When Allah saw our weakness, he made it permissible for us,” meaning spoils. The Prophet (PBUH) said, “Spoils were not permitted for any masters besides you.” Allah Almighty forbade (the taking of) spoils for all nations before us. He permitted it on the day of the Battle of Badr, as agreed to by all scholars. Not a single Muslim scholar has a problem with this.

‘Spoils’ refers to what? It refers to people and wealth. The people are those who are taken prisoner. I want to say that it is not at all permissible to take prisoners from among Muslims, even if they are heretics, because the rule for Muslims is that they are free, and not prisoners. Jihad, as I stated in the beginning, is between Muslims and non-Muslims, from among the infidels. But if two Muslims fought each other, like from Iraq and Iran for example; if Iraq invaded Iran to occupy it, it would not be permissible for an Iraqi man to take a Shi’ite woman captive, because she is Muslim, even though she’s a heretic. Likewise if Iran invaded Iraq, it would not be permissible for one of their men to take a Muslim woman captive, because she is free.

Therefore jihad is only between Muslims and infidels. That between Muslims and Muslims is called oppression, or fighting: “If two parties among the believers fall into a quarrel…” [Qur'an 49:9]. They are called ‘believers,’ and this name is not taken from them, even though they are fighting. “If one of them transgresses beyond bounds against the other, then fight ye (all) against the one that transgresses…” Here they are called transgressors, but the name of believers is still not taken away from them. In the verse directly following this one, Allah Almighty says: “The believers are but a single brotherhood…” They were brothers, even though a party of them transgressed against the other, and some of them fought each other. But the name of believers was not taken from them.

Do you understand what I’m saying? Spoils, slaves, and prisoners are only to be taken in war between Muslims and infidels. Muslims in the past conquered, invaded, and took over countries. This is agreed to by all scholars–there is no disagreement on this from any of them, from the smallest to the largest, on the issue of taking spoils and prisoners. The prisoners and spoils are distributed among the fighters, which includes men, women, children, wealth, and so on.

When a slave market is erected, which is a market in which are sold slaves and sex-slaves, which are called in the Qur’an by the name milk al-yamin, “that which your right hands possess” [Qur'an 4:24]. This is a verse from the Qur’an which is still in force, and has not been abrogated. The milk al-yamin are the sex-slaves. You go to the market, look at the sex-slave, and buy her. She becomes like your wife, (but) she doesn’t need a (marriage) contract or a divorce like a free woman, nor does she need a wali. All scholars agree on this point–there is no disagreement from any of them.

These are called slaves. The Prophet (PBUH) talked about them in the hadith narrated by al-Bukhari in his Book of Jihad: “Allah is delighted at a people who enter the Garden in chains.” Also as narrated by Abu-Dawud: “They are led to the Garden in chains.” Naturally, many people might not understand someone being jerked along in chains in order to enter the Garden. This is because all people, even the worst of the unbelievers, say the garden is for them and no others. They run to the Garden without anybody pulling them in chains.

The meaning of the hadith is this: these slaves were in a religion other than Islam. However, when they were conquered, and defeated, and taken prisoner, they came to live in the land of Islam. Then when they witnessed the justice, compassion, and mercy of Islam, they became Muslims. These did not convert to Islam except in the chains of war. If they had not been chained, bound, and had their freedom taken from them, they would not have converted to Islam. Therefore this hadith is referring to these slaves.

I am very shocked and surprised at those who say that we permit slavery. We don’t call people to become slaves. In fact, there are vows to free the necks (i.e. slaves). The same Islam which permits us to take slaves, also urges us to free their necks.
[...]
I am very shocked, for example, by a country like the United States or others like it which occupy the inhabitants of the earth. It doesn’t enslave individuals, but rather it enslaves entire countries. What is being done in Afghanistan? What is being done in Iraq? What is being done with regards to dividing up Sudan? Those who are in Chechnya, or Eritrea, or any Muslim country are being burned, and taken and thrown in prisons and in Guantanamo and so forth. They say that this is a war against terrorism. This action is the same as slavery, but it is injustice and agression. But Islam in the case of Chosroes was not like that.

I have entered into the well-known conditions and restrictions (on offensive jihad), of which I mentioned only a few, because it is a long topic. I know that I am in an interview, and perhaps I have carried on too long for your guests. But I will close Allah-willing, and I won’t go on more than a couple of minutes. I say that this is requisite with the justice, mercy, and care of Islam for the slaves. Yet they still come and blame us for this supposed blemish, while they are guilty of the same thing many times over. They are tyrants and oppressors who attack the lands of the Muslims especially, more than they do any others. Now when I say spoils, it does not refer only to money, but it also means slaves.

When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her. I choose the man I like, one with strong muscles, or if I want a boy to work in the house, and so forth. I choose one, and pay him a wage. I employ him in a variety of different tasks, then I sell him afterwards. Now, the country that I entered and took captive its men and women–does it not also have money, gold, and silver? Is that not money? When I say that jihad–offensive jihad–with the well-known conditions that I already mentioned from the hadith of the Prophet (PBUH), from the hadith of Burayda in Sahih Muslim, the coffers of the Muslims were full. Would someone who is pious and intelligent–would he say that this is a type of poverty? Or that it is a type of wealth? No–this will fill the coffers of the Muslims with riches and wealth, but as we said, with the recognized conditions. [...]

Originally published on Translating Jihad.


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125 Responses to “Islam and Sex Slavery”
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  1. Philip_Daniel
    1 | June 15, 2011 8:01 pm

    Free the Pals, and sh*t!

    /


  2. lobo91
    2 | June 15, 2011 8:16 pm

    I’m surprised Bill Clinton hasn’t converted to Islam.

    The idea of being able to buy a sex slave at the store would probably appeal to him…


  3. 4 | June 15, 2011 8:20 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    That…should be the Kiss of Death for him!


  4. Philip_Daniel
    5 | June 15, 2011 8:21 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    CAIR Praises Mitt Romney For Avoiding “Sea Of Sharia Law Crazy”…

    In other news, Nazis Praise Charles Lindbergh for Avoiding “Sea of Naziphobic Crazy”…


  5. waldensianspirit
    6 | June 15, 2011 8:25 pm

    Oh my


  6. waldensianspirit
    7 | June 15, 2011 8:27 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    That…should be the Kiss of Death for him!

    He got the “independent” votes


  7. Philip_Daniel
    8 | June 15, 2011 8:30 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Oh my

    So, Weiner has something in common with Muhammad — cross-dressing!


  8. vagabond trader
    9 | June 15, 2011 8:32 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That piker never paid for anything in his life.


  9. chickadee
    10 | June 15, 2011 8:36 pm

    Look how this hideous slob does not back down from his inhuman statements abt. buying a woman as a sex slave. He doesn’t care what the civilized world thinks.
    The pos justifies his ‘right’ to his wretched behavior in the koran. That is islam for you.
    It creates monsters. The civilized world is going to have to quit pretending they are human beings.
    They are not.


  10. vagabond trader
    11 | June 15, 2011 8:36 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    WikiIslam

    :mrgreen:


  11. chickadee
    12 | June 15, 2011 8:40 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    That piker never paid for anything in his life.

    So true. He just attacked them like a fiend.


  12. waldensianspirit
    13 | June 15, 2011 8:41 pm

    @ chickadee:
    The koran does justify it. That’s why he doesn’t read the Bible


  13. chickadee
    14 | June 15, 2011 8:43 pm

    There are 1.5 billion muzz reading that koranic b.s.


  14. waldensianspirit
    15 | June 15, 2011 8:45 pm

    @ chickadee:
    Raises the question, “Will there be any [Christian] faith on the earth?”


  15. chickadee
    16 | June 15, 2011 8:45 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:
    #14 was to you.
    lol, I messed up.
    :)
    Too tired and two beers.


  16. lobo91
    17 | June 15, 2011 8:45 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:
    @ lobo91:
    That piker never paid for anything in his life.
    So true. He just attacked them like a fiend.

    He just assumes that all women are his sex slaves…


  17. Canoe Convoy
    18 | June 15, 2011 8:45 pm

    Hi everyone! ::waving hello

    Happy that the WI State Supreme Court has made a sensible decision re: Governor Walker’s union busting.

    Enjoy.


  18. vagabond trader
    19 | June 15, 2011 8:46 pm

    This is what the left hold up as noble victims,a misunderstood superior culture we must respect. Filthy fckn koranimals, you’ll have to settle for those weak azz dhimmis before any real Americans submit.


  19. chickadee
    20 | June 15, 2011 8:48 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ chickadee:
    Raises the question, “Will there be any [Christian] faith on the earth?”

    Oh sure. Many people are reacquainting themselves with faiths other than the screed of death.
    I have never embraced being a Christian more than I do now.


  20. vagabond trader
    21 | June 15, 2011 8:49 pm

    @ Canoe Convoy:

    That was great news. Make those criminal syndicate unions pay big to try and subvert the will of honest citizens.Less money sent to the Big boss in DC. :razz:


  21. waldensianspirit
    22 | June 15, 2011 8:50 pm

    If Obama is not exchanging hostilities with Libya then what he is doing in Libya is war crimes


  22. lobo91
    23 | June 15, 2011 8:54 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    If Obama is not exchanging hostilities with Libya then what he is doing in Libya is war crimes

    I think they’re drawing smiley faces on the bombs before dropping them, so they’re non-hostile…


  23. vagabond trader
    24 | June 15, 2011 8:54 pm

    Sheila Jackson Lee (D)umbocrap

    Yup, its them Christian militants I worry most about.


  24. Da_Beerfreak
    25 | June 15, 2011 8:56 pm

    Canoe Convoy wrote:

    Hi everyone! ::waving hello
    Happy that the WI State Supreme Court has made a sensible decision re: Governor Walker’s union busting.
    Enjoy.

    Greetings from across the St Croix. How long before a liberal Federal judge blocks Wisconsin’s new law?? I know the Unions filed their case today in Federal District Court against it.


  25. lobo91
    26 | June 15, 2011 8:56 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    If Obama is not exchanging hostilities with Libya then what he is doing in Libya is war crimes

    Actually, I think it comes closer to “high crimes and misdemeanors.”


  26. Bumr50
    27 | June 15, 2011 8:57 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Redistributing peace.


  27. lobo91
    28 | June 15, 2011 8:58 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Greetings from across the St Croix. How long before a liberal Federal judge blocks Wisconsin’s new law?? I know the Unions filed their case today in Federal District Court against it.

    I’d like to know what grounds they think they have for a federal lawsuit.


  28. chickadee
    29 | June 15, 2011 8:58 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    This is what the left hold up as noble victims,a misunderstood superior culture we must respect. Filthy fckn koranimals, you’ll have to settle for those weak azz dhimmis before any real Americans submit.

    Everyday more Americans wake up to the evil scourge. The way zero has coddled them has put these fcks front and center. They are on display. I look at them center stage and shudder at what stupid, aggressive, backward, evil pukes they are. Why do we have to bow down and show deference to a crude beast who wants to go on an get him a sex slaves and proceed to tell us why that is his ‘right’.

    Game over. Nuke em.


  29. Da_Beerfreak
    30 | June 15, 2011 9:01 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Greetings from across the St Croix. How long before a liberal Federal judge blocks Wisconsin’s new law?? I know the Unions filed their case today in Federal District Court against it.
    I’d like to know what grounds they think they have for a federal lawsuit.

    Facts and the Truth have never stopped a Liberal in their pursuit of power before.


  30. lobo91
    31 | June 15, 2011 9:03 pm

    @ chickadee:

    Everyday more Americans wake up to the evil scourge. The way zero has coddled them has put these fcks front and center. They are on display. I look at them center stage and shudder at what stupid, aggressive, backward, evil pukes they are. Why do we have to bow down and show deference to a crude beast who wants to go on an get him a sex slaves and proceed to tell us why that is his ‘right’.

    Funny…until you mentioned sex slaves, I thought you were talking about Obama.

    Seriously.


  31. vagabond trader
    32 | June 15, 2011 9:04 pm

    Read a decent summary of why the left slobbers all over the anti freedom anti ghey anti female anti modern mutant muzz. They are a replacement for the commie scourge that once loomed over the planet.No more USSR to glorify and defend,the muzz are a fill in.Useful dhimmis.


  32. waldensianspirit
    33 | June 15, 2011 9:04 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    it comes closer to “high crimes and misdemeanors.”

    Yea that’s probably true. He better get it defined as hostilities and seek congressional approval to continue.


  33. lobo91
    34 | June 15, 2011 9:06 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Facts and the Truth have never stopped a Liberal in their pursuit of power before.

    I can’t think of any possible Constitutional claim they could make, which is the only way they can get a federal court to overturn a state law.

    There’s obviously no Constitutional right to union representation, because there are a whole bunch of right to work states.


  34. lobo91
    35 | June 15, 2011 9:07 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    it comes closer to “high crimes and misdemeanors.”
    Yea that’s probably true. He better get it defined as hostilities and seek congressional approval to continue.

    He’s basically told Congress to go to hell, and he’s going to do whatever he likes.

    Of course, he did that awhile ago with regard to the courts.


  35. Da_Beerfreak
    36 | June 15, 2011 9:09 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Here’s a little more info on what the unions are trying to argue, but nothing on the unions’ standing.

    Unions file lawsuit against WI collective bargaining law in federal court


  36. chickadee
    37 | June 15, 2011 9:10 pm

    @ lobo91:
    OH my, LOL
    There really isn’t much difference btw evil, deranged, power hungry pukes.


  37. Dolphin
    38 | June 15, 2011 9:12 pm

    On Glenn Beck’s show Tuesday – he covered this. He also had another tid-bit – did any one else see the shoe from Tuesday?


  38. Dolphin
    39 | June 15, 2011 9:14 pm

    @ Dolphin:
    shoe=show

    Sorry about that – keyboard seems to be messing up.


  39. Da_Beerfreak
    40 | June 15, 2011 9:14 pm

    How long before the United Nations declares Having Sex is a basic Human Right like they just did with Internet access??


  40. chickadee
    41 | June 15, 2011 9:16 pm

    @ vagabond trader:
    That makes sense.
    The left has to demonize and glorify. Divide people. They weaken us and our resolve by setting the muzz up as the rop, completely ignoring the barbaric edicts in the koran.
    We are the bad guys because we don;t want our heads cut off by such a wonderful people.

    fck em.


  41. chickadee
    42 | June 15, 2011 9:18 pm

    Dolphin wrote:

    @ Dolphin:
    shoe=show

    Sorry about that – keyboard seems to be messing up.

    YAY, a shoe thread? ? ? ?


  42. lobo91
    43 | June 15, 2011 9:19 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Wisconsin, claims the controversial measure is unconstitutional because it creates two classes of public workers in the state — those covered by the new rules and those exempt from them.

    So fucking what?

    Maybe it’s escaped their notice, but not all federal workers are covered by union rules, either.

    They might find some idiot left-wing judge to go along with them, but there’s no chance they’ll ultimately win.


  43. Bumr50
    44 | June 15, 2011 9:19 pm

    @ Dolphin:

    Haven’t caught the tv show for a while.


  44. lobo91
    45 | June 15, 2011 9:19 pm

    Dolphin wrote:

    @ Dolphin:
    shoe=show
    Sorry about that – keyboard seems to be messing up.

    Was it a really big shoe?
    //


  45. chickadee
    46 | June 15, 2011 9:20 pm

    I want a pair of red keds tennis shoes to wear with sun dresses.
    I’m going to also need navy .


  46. vagabond trader
    47 | June 15, 2011 9:21 pm

    @ lobo91:

    :lol:


  47. lobo91
    48 | June 15, 2011 9:22 pm

    @ vagabond trader:

    With that guy who spun all those plates…and a dancing bear…


  48. vagabond trader
    49 | June 15, 2011 9:23 pm

    @ chickadee:

    Do they still make the slip ons? I like those, the lace ups changed since they started making them in China.


  49. Da_Beerfreak
    50 | June 15, 2011 9:23 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    They might find some idiot left-wing judge to go along with them, but there’s no chance they’ll ultimately win.

    That’s the only thing I can see that’s in their favor, tie it up as long as possible. Winning would be nice but is not necessary to their basic plan to just gum things up as much as possible with worthless lawsuits.


  50. Dolphin
    51 | June 15, 2011 9:24 pm

    @ chickadee:
    Not a shoe person – but that me LOL.


  51. 52 | June 15, 2011 9:24 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    @ chickadee:
    Raises the question, “Will there be any [Christian] faith on the earth?”

    Oh sure. Many people are reacquainting themselves with faiths other than the screed of death.
    I have never embraced being a Christian more than I do now.

    Same here.

    If you don’t attend and support your church when you have the opportunity to do so, that church might not be there when you are looking for it later on. If you don’t work on your own faith when times are getting worse, then when times get REALLY bad, it may be too late.

    Our pastor cautions us that martyrdom is a real possibility for modern-day Christians anywhere in the world, and that we should be prepared for it.


  52. vagabond trader
    53 | June 15, 2011 9:24 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Yeah, its what they do best,agitate and litigate. Worthless bastages.


  53. 54 | June 15, 2011 9:26 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    If Obama is not exchanging hostilities with Libya then what he is doing in Libya is war crimes
    Actually, I think it comes closer to “high crimes and misdemeanors.”

    Yup.


  54. Da_Beerfreak
    55 | June 15, 2011 9:26 pm

    Dolphin wrote:

    @ chickadee:
    Not a shoe person – but that me LOL.

    Same here. Got one pair for wearin’ outside and another for inside. How many pairs of shoes does one person need anyways??


  55. chickadee
    56 | June 15, 2011 9:27 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ chickadee:

    Do they still make the slip ons? I like those, the lace ups changed since they started making them in China.

    Slip ons are good. I want the old fashioned lace-ups, though.
    Damn . . . . . made in china does NOT sound very aesthetic.


  56. vagabond trader
    57 | June 15, 2011 9:27 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Blasphemy! :-)


  57. lobo91
    58 | June 15, 2011 9:27 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    That’s why they need a “loser pays” law in the federal courts…


  58. Da_Beerfreak
    59 | June 15, 2011 9:28 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    That’s why they need a “loser pays” law in the federal courts…

    More likely Hell will freeze over and fall into the Void first.


  59. vagabond trader
    60 | June 15, 2011 9:28 pm

    @ chickadee:

    I used to have some nice vintage ones, pointy toed. Gold lame’, pink. :-)


  60. lobo91
    61 | June 15, 2011 9:29 pm

    @ 1389AD:

    Our pastor cautions us that martyrdom is a real possibility for modern-day Christians anywhere in the world, and that we should be prepared for it.

    As someone who lives less than a mile from that church where the security guard shot a guy who was coming to attack the Sunday service a couple years ago, I’d tend to agree…


  61. vagabond trader
    62 | June 15, 2011 9:32 pm

    S’pose this is all on the up and up too Or if it isn’t, so what.


  62. buzzsawmonkey
    63 | June 15, 2011 9:35 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    How many pairs of shoes does one person need anyways??

    At least two pairs for dress and for casual, in black and brown. Two because it is bad for both the feet and the shoes to wear the same shoes day after day. Add in sneakers and something special like a pair of light summer or heavy winter shoes, and they start adding up.


  63. lobo91
    64 | June 15, 2011 9:35 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    S’pose this is all on the up and up too Or if it isn’t, so what.

    Carney continued to insist that the president has every right to appoint former donors.

    “It would be wrong if they weren’t qualified,” Carney said. “It’s not a disqualification for office to be a supporter of the president.”

    You know, I think it’s a stretch to claim that anyone in this administration is “qualified” for their jobs…


  64. buzzsawmonkey
    65 | June 15, 2011 9:36 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    They might find some idiot left-wing judge to go along with them

    Word is that the case has been assigned to…wait for it…an Obama appointee.


  65. taxfreekiller
    66 | June 15, 2011 9:36 pm

    Three things.

    1. islamic women.
    2. korans.
    3. slaves

    One, Two, Three, just like that.
    Keep it simple.


  66. lobo91
    67 | June 15, 2011 9:38 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    They might find some idiot left-wing judge to go along with them
    Word is that the case has been assigned to…wait for it…an Obama appointee.

    Gee…that’s an odd coincidence…


  67. taxfreekiller
    68 | June 15, 2011 9:38 pm

    Put it another way, show me a “free” islamic woman.


  68. chickadee
    69 | June 15, 2011 9:39 pm

    @ vagabond trader:
    How cute. The best pair I had was a denim with orange stitching and orange shoe laces, like an old pair of farm jeans. I loved those tennis shoes. lol


  69. vagabond trader
    70 | June 15, 2011 9:40 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Wonder how many nuisance suits these commies have going on at present.


  70. Bumr50
    71 | June 15, 2011 9:42 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Mrs. Weiner?


  71. taxfreekiller
    72 | June 15, 2011 9:43 pm

    ps

    Over on http://www.wattsupwiththat.com

    Posters on the thread third thread down just now “The three lines of research,,,” the one with about 317 post, they are asking poster “moderate republican” if he is the Ludwigg Van Quoite.

    Not post as radical and out there as the lgf’s ludwigg but seems to have the flair of Lud going. Time will tell.


  72. chickadee
    73 | June 15, 2011 9:43 pm

    taxfreekiller wrote:

    Put it another way, show me a “free” islamic woman.

    NOT possible. There are none. The women in islam get out (one way or the other) or accept the doctrine and dig in.
    They become very committed and militant in defending the very screed that enslaves them.


  73. vagabond trader
    75 | June 15, 2011 9:44 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    I’m hearing noise that a new ice age is looming. :lol:


  74. buzzsawmonkey
    76 | June 15, 2011 9:46 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    I’m hearing noise that a new ice age is looming.

    As long as it’s accompanied by a new Scotch age, I’ll manage…


  75. vagabond trader
    77 | June 15, 2011 9:50 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    :razz:


  76. chickadee
    78 | June 15, 2011 9:50 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    This piece was done to show the evils of American slavery, but I think the song should go out to our Muslim friends.

    The left doesn’t have a problem with slavery as long as it is the muzz doing it.
    We have to respect their culture. It is important that we are not judgmental.


  77. Dolphin
    79 | June 15, 2011 9:50 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Dolphin wrote:

    @ chickadee:
    Not a shoe person – but that me LOL.

    Same here. Got one pair for wearin’ outside and another for inside. How many pairs of shoes does one person need anyways??

    I love my Crocs for home. Of course I bought mine when they were still in Colorada.


  78. vagabond trader
    80 | June 15, 2011 9:51 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Do you know if he got the dialogue from actual auctions?


  79. buzzsawmonkey
    81 | June 15, 2011 9:51 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    We have to respect their culture. It is important that we are not judgmental.

    Judge Mental says, “Guilty! Take ‘em away!”


  80. Da_Beerfreak
    82 | June 15, 2011 9:51 pm

    @ lobo91:
    One of the biggest problems Liberals have is that they really don’t understand the World they are living in.


  81. buzzsawmonkey
    83 | June 15, 2011 9:53 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Do you know if he got the dialogue from actual auctions?

    Almost certainly not—that is, not slave auctions. The piece was first done, I think, in the Fifties; who would remember auctioneer’s patter from a slave auction a hundred years earlier?

    The style is classic auctioneer patter, as anyone who has heard a recording of an old tobacco auction knows.


  82. taxfreekiller
    84 | June 15, 2011 9:53 pm

    ya, facts, information, data seems to have upset the warming cult.

    They are out in large numbers, now the sun “may have a role to play”.

    AGW

    A Goalpost Walks@ vagabond trader:


  83. refugee000
    85 | June 15, 2011 9:55 pm

    Atlas got me going.

    You just can’t make this up

    Obama heralds Indonesia’s political, religious diversity in latest outreach to Muslims
    June 15, 2011
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/09/AR20 10110901388.html?hpid=topnews

    Law Banning Blasphemy Is Upheld in Indonesia
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/20/world/asia/20indo.html

    Churches Burned over Indonesia’s Blasphemy Case
    http://www.christianpost.com/news/churches-burned-over-indonesias-bl asphemy-case-48890/

    Indonesian Christians attacked on way to morning prayers
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/12/indonesian-christians-at tacked


  84. chickadee
    86 | June 15, 2011 9:55 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    chickadee wrote:

    We have to respect their culture. It is important that we are not judgmental.

    Judge Mental says, “Guilty! Take ‘em away!”

    LOL


  85. refugee000
    87 | June 15, 2011 9:57 pm

    “When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her”

    So—doesn’t everyone?

    ;-)


  86. chickadee
    88 | June 15, 2011 9:57 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    One of the biggest problems Liberals have is that they really don’t understand the World they are living in.

    That’s true. These are the sheeple fools. The Stalins at the top do understand the world they are living in and they know who the mark is and who they need to send to gulags.


  87. vagabond trader
    89 | June 15, 2011 9:59 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Was wondering if he had read or heard something in old folklore that perhaps influenced him. A lot of tradition was passed down verbally amongst illiterate people, just curious.


  88. buzzsawmonkey
    90 | June 15, 2011 9:59 pm

    Gotta git.


  89. taxfreekiller
    91 | June 15, 2011 9:59 pm

    my #72

    went back over, looks like another “time out” http://wattsupwiththat.com for (possible ludwigg ) aka moderate republican….@ taxfreekiller:


  90. 92 | June 15, 2011 10:00 pm

    Sex slaves for Islam. These have to be the sickest people alive.


  91. buzzsawmonkey
    93 | June 15, 2011 10:01 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    Was wondering if he had read or heard something in old folklore that perhaps influenced him. A lot of tradition was passed down verbally amongst illiterate people, just curious.

    It’s possible, of course—especially if Oscar Brown had, say, a grandparent or great-grandparent who was born in slavery.


  92. vagabond trader
    94 | June 15, 2011 10:01 pm

    @ refugee000:

    Blecch, can you imagine the horror of being purchased by that mangey smelly lout? Barf.


  93. 95 | June 15, 2011 10:02 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Oh my

    why are they calling her “Mrs Abedin”? shouldn’t she be Mrs Weiner? what? is he now Mr. Abedin? wth??


  94. lobo91
    96 | June 15, 2011 10:03 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Sex slaves for Islam. These have to be the sickest people alive.

    Of course, these are the “moderate” Muslims.

    They want to pay for their slaves, after all…


  95. vagabond trader
    97 | June 15, 2011 10:03 pm

    @ Kirly:

    Mrs Beard would be more accurate.


  96. 98 | June 15, 2011 10:04 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Oh my

    why are they calling her “Mrs Abedin”? shouldn’t she be Mrs Weiner? what? is he now Mr. Abedin? wth??

    ohmy indeed! from the article..

    “In another photo an oiled Weiner poses in y-fronted swimming trunks in front of a Christmas tree.”

    bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahah!!!


  97. Runner
    99 | June 15, 2011 10:06 pm

    Bruins ahead 3 to 0 with the third period coming up in the Stanley Cup final. Red Sox just beat The Rays 3 to 0.

    Coincidence? I think not!

    Go Bruins!!!!!!!!!!


  98. chickadee
    100 | June 15, 2011 10:07 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Kirly:

    Mrs Beard would be more accurate.

    Exact;y.


  99. vagabond trader
    101 | June 15, 2011 10:08 pm

    @ Kirly:

    Hot dawg!!!


    Always liked the divide and conquer strategy


  100. 102 | June 15, 2011 10:08 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Of course, these are the “moderate” Muslims.

    They want to pay for their slaves, after all…


  101. taxfreekiller
    103 | June 15, 2011 10:09 pm

    Just read a bunch of “moderate republican’s” post over on wattsupwiththat.

    Has a real Ludwigg like deal to it,,,,”math” and words like that.

    Some one else check it out, could be him.


  102. refugee000
    104 | June 15, 2011 10:10 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Urban Infidel wrote:
    Sex slaves for Islam. These have to be the sickest people alive.
    Of course, these are the “moderate” Muslims.
    They want to pay for their slaves, after all…

    upding!

    :)


  103. vagabond trader
    105 | June 15, 2011 10:14 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:

    lol, haven’t seen that in a while.Used to love the John Waters 99¢ midnite double feature. :lol:


  104. Da_Beerfreak
    106 | June 15, 2011 10:15 pm

    Here it comes.
    The Bachmann Backlash Begins
    The Fifth Column Treasonous Media™ in Minnesota has been trying to destroy her for years without any success. The National Media is in for a real surprise. :twisted:


  105. 107 | June 15, 2011 10:16 pm

    vagabond trader wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    lol, haven’t seen that in a while.Used to love the John Waters 99¢ midnite double feature.

    It’s been forever since I saw that one. It’s one of his best. LOL! Injected with rabies! LOL!


  106. chickadee
    108 | June 15, 2011 10:17 pm

    I bet anything the next ploy for sympathy will be a miscarriage for the non-pg wife/beard.
    wiener is so out of control because the whole thing is shame. he is a single man looking for a hook up everywhere.


  107. vagabond trader
    109 | June 15, 2011 10:21 pm

    @ chickadee:

    Someone who knows her said Huma is tough as nails,like her mentor, Hildabeast.Maybe we should have that great forensic gynecologist Andrew Sullivan investigate if the pregnancy is authentic. :evil:


  108. 110 | June 15, 2011 10:27 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Moderate Republican = Rockefeller Saudi loving Wilsonian Republican. St. George of the Bushes is their hero.


  109. 111 | June 15, 2011 10:27 pm

    @ vagabond trader:
    Ever meet a gay gynecologist? Me neither!


  110. livefreeor die
    112 | June 15, 2011 10:28 pm

    taxfreekiller wrote:

    Just read a bunch of “moderate republican’s” post over on wattsupwiththat.
    Has a real Ludwigg like deal to it,,,,”math” and words like that.
    Some one else check it out, could be him.

    If it’s not Ludwig, it’s his twin. Same compulsive repetition of “strawman” statements, same muddled use of statistics and awareness of the entire body of knowledge.
    Anyone know a site where poor Ludwig will NOT get a time-out?


  111. livefreeor die
    113 | June 15, 2011 10:29 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    vagabond trader wrote:
    @ Urban Infidel:
    lol, haven’t seen that in a while.Used to love the John Waters 99¢ midnite double feature.
    It’s been forever since I saw that one. It’s one of his best. LOL! Injected with rabies! LOL!

    I saw that one in high school-what was the name of it again?
    It’s not a movie that one easily forgets!


  112. vagabond trader
    114 | June 15, 2011 10:31 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:

    Insider factoid:A lot of male gynos do not like women.

    @ livefreeor die:

    Desperate Living :razz:


  113. taxfreekiller
    115 | June 15, 2011 10:35 pm

    Well if it is Ludwigg, he is getting his ass handed to him.

    There are some real deal posters on there, silly crap will not fly at all there.


  114. livefreeor die
    116 | June 15, 2011 10:36 pm

    @ vagabond trader:
    Yes! Thank you-it would have bothered me all night.
    “Glow little glow worm, glow.”
    “I just love marshmallows.”
    So many catch phrases my high school group of friends used from that movie…


  115. 117 | June 15, 2011 10:43 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Oh my
    why are they calling her “Mrs Abedin”? shouldn’t she be Mrs Weiner? what? is he now Mr. Abedin? wth??

    She has not taken her husband’s name – obviously for many, many reasons.


  116. 118 | June 15, 2011 11:05 pm

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  117. Philip_Daniel
    119 | June 15, 2011 11:10 pm

    @ chickadee:

    The Anti-Colonialist Left enthusiastically endorses unapologetic Colonialism, of the Theocratic variety…

    [O]ffensive jihad is to make Allah’s word the highest i.e. rule them by Islam. The army is the last resort in spreading Islam to other lands. Before this there are contacts through treaties and other policies aimed at explaining Islam to them. There are three stages in the foreign policy with non-Muslim nations. First stage, call them to accept Islam. If they refuse then second stage call them to live under Islamic rule as dhimmi paying the jizya tax. If they refuse then the army will be sent to conquer the nation and enforce Islamic rule. The army will follow strict rules of engagement as defined in sharia, because the objective is ruling the people…
    This foreign policy will continue until the world is ruled by Islam.
    This policy is what the sahaba followed. At the Battle of Qadisiyah, Rab’i ibn Amr was sent to discuss with the Persian general Rustam.
    Rustam asked Rab’i: “What brought you here?” He said: “Allah brought us here. He has sent us to bring whomsoever He wills from the worship of other people to the worship of Allah, from the constriction of this world to its ease, and from the injustice of other religions to the justice of Islam. He sent to us His Messenger bringing His religion to His creation. Whoever accepts it, we will accept that and leave him and his land alone, but whoever refuses, we will fight him until we end up either in Paradise or in victory.”


  118. shadowman
    121 | June 16, 2011 3:27 am

    Girl of 15 ‘sold off to chip shop workers by gang for £100 petrol money’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2003942/The-girl-15-sold-chip-shop-workers-gang-100-petrol-money.html


  119. 4_Sticks
    122 | June 16, 2011 4:43 am

    “that which your right hands possess”

    I was told once to use my left hand … feels like someone else is doing it.

    “… nor does she need a ‘wali’.”

    Is that their equivalent of a ‘mashie’ ??

    Someones got some ‘splainin’ to do …


  120. Guggi
    123 | June 16, 2011 5:05 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    It appears that the in-laws of Good Huma Man Anthony Weiner may have strong ties to the Muslim Brotherhood.

    That’s a bombshell and none of the MM could find this out, only a local talk show host ?


  121. 124 | June 16, 2011 8:09 pm

    Is it any wonder that ugly fat fuck has to buy or violently intimidate a woman to shag him? OMFG… I would not fuck that wish Charles’ johnson! That goes for all of these smelly, unwashed, ululating mutants. Despite all the oil money, they still haven’t figured out what a shower or toilet paper are.


  122. 125 | June 16, 2011 8:10 pm

    Preview is my friend. “I would not fuck that WITH Charles’ johnson”. But I do think Charles wishes to get it on with the ol’ Shaykh.


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