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Invasion of Croatia & Serbian destruction of Dubrovnik – NOT!

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Filed under History, Media, Serbia at July 15th, 2011 - 8:30 am

YouTube: Invasion of Croatia & Serbian destruction of Dubrovnik – The real story”

Uploaded by Gogosrb on December 8, 2010;
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Says Professor Emeritus John Peter Maher:

Not “Mas” /Peter Maas, but me. i went to Dubrovnik on 25 March 1992 and filmed the Old City. It was miraculously restored — 3 months after its destruction (Voice of America). In the Old City the house of artist Ivo Grbić had been firebombed by Croats, not navy guns. His shingle read ICONS & IKONE (in Serbian Cyrillic). On 1 October 1991, 7000 Croats and 3000 Serbs fled for their lives from Dubrovnik to Serbia. Croatian squatters now live in the stolen homes. -JP Maher, Professor Emeritus


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  1. 1 | July 15, 2011 9:35 am

    Y’know what? Dubrovnik was featured on House Hunters International on HGTV the other day!
    Go figure….


  2. citizen_q
    2 | July 15, 2011 9:59 am

    O/T sorry. Beck is reporting on his radio show that the US is recognizing the libyan rebels as the new libyan government. Need to find a corroborating link


  3. MikeA
    3 | July 15, 2011 10:13 am

    Another day in paradise.

    OT: So when does the entire economy collapse


  4. MikeA
    4 | July 15, 2011 10:13 am

    @ citizen_q:

    So we just recognized Al-Q and Muzzie Brotherhood as a government. We’ll be doing it in Egypt soon so I guess this avoids the Ramadan rush…


  5. Nevergiveup
    5 | July 15, 2011 10:16 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    O/T sorry. Beck is reporting on his radio show that the US is recognizing the libyan rebels as the new libyan government. Need to find a corroborating link

    Don’t be sorry. the stuff about Libya is very relevant. The thread topic, not so much.


  6. citizen_q
    6 | July 15, 2011 10:16 am

    @ MikeA:
    We live in an alternative universe.


  7. Nevergiveup
    7 | July 15, 2011 10:17 am

    Cantor talking live now


  8. Nevergiveup
    8 | July 15, 2011 10:18 am

    Cantor said the Republicans are at over 6 trillion in cuts, the dems at about 1.5 trillion


  9. citizen_q
    9 | July 15, 2011 10:19 am

    @ Nevergiveup:
    Just trying to be polite. :-)

    What is also amazing aside from the announcement was where it was made. Dorian found a AP link from the washington post; dateline – instanbul.
    Truth is stranger than fiction.


  10. 10 | July 15, 2011 10:21 am

    @ citizen_q:
    Hey, the Obama Administration wants to get in on the ground floor of the New Caliphate®. Can I get an amen?


  11. 11 | July 15, 2011 10:22 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Cantor said the Republicans are at over 6 trillion in cuts, the dems at about 1.5 trillion

    I hope Cantior holds strong. FYI- Expect anti-semitic attacks from the Left.


  12. citizen_q
    12 | July 15, 2011 10:22 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    Hey, the Obama Administration wants to get in on the ground floor of the New Caliphate®. Can I get an amen?

    Ululululululululu!!!!


  13. Nevergiveup
    13 | July 15, 2011 10:23 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Cantor said the Republicans are at over 6 trillion in cuts, the dems at about 1.5 trillion

    I hope Cantior holds strong. FYI- Expect anti-semitic attacks from the Left.

    Oh I am sure they have already started


  14. taxfreekiller
    14 | July 15, 2011 10:24 am

    Druge at last has a thread up on Fast and Furious.

    Does not use “Fast and Furious” as the tag for some reason.

    On left hand side about mid way down,

    On the Tampa Fl. connection and the link is to FoxNews.

    May be the Morlock is the one who bought off Drudge

    http://www.drudgereport.com

    pass the info around so that the story get clicks and Drudge’s people will react to the hits


  15. 15 | July 15, 2011 10:25 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    Hey, the Obama Administration wants to get in on the ground floor of the New Caliphate®. Can I get an amen?

    How about the New Caliphate®’s National Anthem?
    الجميع يمارس الجنس مع بعقب!
    بعقب! بعقب! بعقب اللعنة!


  16. 16 | July 15, 2011 10:28 am

    @ Macker:

    There is no Dog but Allah, and Mohammed is His Bitch!

    Something like that 8O


  17. coldwarrior
    17 | July 15, 2011 10:28 am

    @ taxfreekiller:

    another stone is added to the pile….


  18. coldwarrior
    18 | July 15, 2011 10:31 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Don’t be sorry. the stuff about Libya is very relevant. The thread topic, not so much.

    irrelevant to you maybe.

    some of us find balkan news stories as pertinent and relevant as some find the stories we run about israel.


  19. coldwarrior
    19 | July 15, 2011 10:35 am

    i wonder what the 0 administration will try to dump late today so it gets buried in the news cycle…

    debt stuff? fast and furious?

    cant wait to see!


  20. 20 | July 15, 2011 10:35 am

    Fox is reporting that the House Republicans are moving forward with a “Cap, cut, and balance” budget proposal. Are we seeing the House Republicans growing a set of balls? One can only hope…


  21. coldwarrior
    21 | July 15, 2011 10:37 am

    He asked Holder and Melson whether “similar programs included the possible trafficking of arms to dangerous criminal gangs in Honduras with the knowledge of the ATF’s Tampa Field Division” and a Justice Department office, via Castaway.

    Bilirakis’ letter specifically asked whether the Tampa division participated in a “gun walking” scheme allowing guns to go to Honduras. He also asked whether ATF or DOJ know if any of the firearms ended up in the hands of the “notorious” MS-13 gang — a violent gang spread across Central America, Mexico and the United States.

    Court documents from the Operation Castaway takedown claim that at least five firearms from the illegal sales of the main suspect ended up later being connected to crimes, several in Puerto Rico. One pistol was recovered in Colombia after being used in a homicide.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/14/atf-florida-gun-probe-earns-congressional-scrutiny-in-wake-fast-and-furious/#ixzz1SBWOkm79

    well, rodan called this a few weeks ago…


  22. Nevergiveup
    22 | July 15, 2011 10:37 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Don’t be sorry. the stuff about Libya is very relevant. The thread topic, not so much.

    irrelevant to you maybe.

    some of us find balkan news stories as pertinent and relevant as some find the stories we run about israel.

    I don’t see the relevance of many of these stories to what is going on today and many are reprints from other blogs.


  23. coldwarrior
    23 | July 15, 2011 10:38 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Fox is reporting that the House Republicans are moving forward with a “Cap, cut, and balance” budget proposal. Are we seeing the House Republicans growing a set of balls? One can only hope…

    i hope this is the one that bachmann was talking about on hannity radio yesterday


  24. 24 | July 15, 2011 10:41 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    I hope so. I was at a Townhall with Corker this past winter, and his Cap bill seems to be about as reasonable as we are likely to get. Pass the fucker and dare Obama to veto it.


  25. coldwarrior
    25 | July 15, 2011 10:41 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Nevergiveup wrote:
    Don’t be sorry. the stuff about Libya is very relevant. The thread topic, not so much.
    irrelevant to you maybe.
    some of us find balkan news stories as pertinent and relevant as some find the stories we run about israel.

    I don’t see the relevance of many of these stories to what is going on today and many are reprints from other blogs.

    wide audience.

    what you and i think about topics here would be relevant if a thread actually stayed on topic. they dont so there really is no point to our conversation.


  26. coldwarrior
    26 | July 15, 2011 10:42 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I hope so. I was at a Townhall with Corker this past winter, and his Cap bill seems to be about as reasonable as we are likely to get. Pass the fucker and dare Obama to veto it.

    that was bachmann’s point last night.

    hang it on the dems


  27. Nevergiveup
    27 | July 15, 2011 10:43 am

    Pelosi on tv now- what a bunch of diarrhea


  28. Nevergiveup
    28 | July 15, 2011 10:43 am

    Dems- more class warfare


  29. 29 | July 15, 2011 10:44 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    One pistol was recovered in Colombia after being used in a homicide.

    This is the tip of the Iceberg!

    I can’t let the Cat out yet. But just wait a few weeks! The Colombians will have a surprise for Obama.


  30. 30 | July 15, 2011 10:44 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    I’d like to pilliage the rich. Let’s start with Queen Nancy’s estate…


  31. Nevergiveup
    31 | July 15, 2011 10:45 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Nevergiveup wrote:
    Don’t be sorry. the stuff about Libya is very relevant. The thread topic, not so much.
    irrelevant to you maybe.
    some of us find balkan news stories as pertinent and relevant as some find the stories we run about israel.

    I don’t see the relevance of many of these stories to what is going on today and many are reprints from other blogs.

    wide audience.

    what you and i think about topics here would be relevant if a thread actually stayed on topic. they dont so there really is no point to our conversation.

    They don’t stay on point because most people are not all that interested in old news and some not so substantiated old news at that.


  32. coldwarrior
    32 | July 15, 2011 10:46 am

    @ Nevergiveup:
    @ Nevergiveup:

    now is the time for the gop to fight back on this rhetoric.

    the momentum is swinging the pendulum.


  33. Nevergiveup
    33 | July 15, 2011 10:48 am

    What I am afraid of is that the House Republicans will pass this cut, cap, and balance thing but the Senate will reject it and then they will pass that McConnell thing.


  34. coldwarrior
    34 | July 15, 2011 10:48 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Nevergiveup wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    Nevergiveup wrote:
    Don’t be sorry. the stuff about Libya is very relevant. The thread topic, not so much.
    irrelevant to you maybe.
    some of us find balkan news stories as pertinent and relevant as some find the stories we run about israel.
    I don’t see the relevance of many of these stories to what is going on today and many are reprints from other blogs.
    wide audience.
    what you and i think about topics here would be relevant if a thread actually stayed on topic. they dont so there really is no point to our conversation.

    They don’t stay on point because most people are not all that interested in old news and some not so substantiated old news at that.

    well, if you feel that way then i await some articles from you for us to read and comment on.


  35. Nevergiveup
    35 | July 15, 2011 10:49 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    @ Nevergiveup:

    now is the time for the gop to fight back on this rhetoric.

    the momentum is swinging the pendulum.

    They seem to be, but the question is do they have the guts and where with all to go balls to the wall


  36. coldwarrior
    36 | July 15, 2011 10:49 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    McConnell thing.

    mconnel thing???

    (goes to bing)


  37. Nevergiveup
    37 | July 15, 2011 10:50 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    well, if you feel that way then i await some articles from you for us to read and comment on.

    I commend her effort, just not her focus and subject matter


  38. 38 | July 15, 2011 10:51 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    If the Senate rejects it, put the blame squarely on the Democrats, and let the clock run out. See if Obama is bluffing. Emphasize that the Democrats just want to tax and spend. Tax-and-Spend Democrats were a losing proposition in 1980, and I think they’ll be a losing proposition in 2012.


  39. Nevergiveup
    39 | July 15, 2011 10:51 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    McConnell thing.

    mconnel thing???

    (goes to bing)

    To pass a deficit extension, but leave it up to obama to decide on the cuts needed.


  40. Nevergiveup
    40 | July 15, 2011 10:52 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    Yup, it may be a game of who blinks first


  41. coldwarrior
    41 | July 15, 2011 10:52 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    now is the time for the gop to fight back on this rhetoric.
    the momentum is swinging the pendulum.

    They seem to be, but the question is do they have the guts and where with all to go balls to the wall

    we have blogs, foxnews, emails etc…

    there is no reason the gop cant get the message out at this point. this isnt 20 years ago when it was just cbs nbc abc cnn


  42. 42 | July 15, 2011 10:53 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Bitch McConnell’s excercize in creative cowardice. It is basically pre-emptive surrender of the debt limit to the President in the hopes he’ll shoulder the blame for the debt incurred. Of course, he won’t.


  43. coldwarrior
    43 | July 15, 2011 10:53 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Nevergiveup wrote:
    McConnell thing.
    mconnel thing???
    (goes to bing)

    To pass a deficit extension, but leave it up to obama to decide on the cuts needed.

    its far worse that that!

    The McConnell plan is worse than a ruse to make it appear to give the president unilateral power to increase federal borrowing. It actually does give the president that power, recklessly delegating Congress’s responsibility under Article I, Section 1 to exercise legislative power.

    Moreover, as John Locke observed hundreds of years ago, the legislative branch is authorized by the people to create laws, not to create legislators. This scheme makes the president a super-legislator, free to rewrite the debt ceiling at will.

    The only limitation on this newly created presidential power would be a congressional “resolution of disapproval,” with a fast-track procedure for Senate consideration without filibuster. It is almost the exact same model that has failed us in the regulatory area, where Congress has the power under the Congressional Review Act to overturn federal regulations with a “resolution of disapproval” that cannot be filibustered.


  44. 44 | July 15, 2011 10:53 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    In a few weeks the Colombians will have a surprise for Obama. I know stuff I can’t let out yet. Let’s just say that pistol in Colombia is the tip of the iceberg.


  45. Nevergiveup
    45 | July 15, 2011 10:53 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    now is the time for the gop to fight back on this rhetoric.
    the momentum is swinging the pendulum.

    They seem to be, but the question is do they have the guts and where with all to go balls to the wall

    we have blogs, foxnews, emails etc…

    there is no reason the gop cant get the message out at this point. this isnt 20 years ago when it was just cbs nbc abc cnn

    I agree, we can’t back down this time


  46. Nevergiveup
    46 | July 15, 2011 10:54 am

    Thin Skin to speak soon


  47. coldwarrior
    47 | July 15, 2011 10:55 am

    wish me luck…time to stain the new floors…

    i sure hope we picked the right stain…

    bbl…


  48. 48 | July 15, 2011 10:56 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    They seem to be, but the question is do they have the guts and where with all to go balls to the wall

    That’s what worries me. The GOP caves in time and time again. If they do so again, not only will they be complicit in the destruction of America, but they will commit political suicide. They need to ignore the media and do what’s right for the nation.

    We are broke and this spending and borrowing needs to stop!

    That’s why the DEms are targetting Cantor. He will not fold.


  49. RIX
    49 | July 15, 2011 10:58 am

    @ Rodan:
    WLS Radio in Chicago had David Gregory of NBC on
    this morning.
    He just doesn’t know why they are not covering Fast & Furious.
    No idea at all & he is not that familiar, but he says that
    he’ll look into it.
    What a load of crap, NBC is covering Obamas back.


  50. taxfreekiller
    50 | July 15, 2011 10:58 am

    Something is up in D.C. just now, the R’s stalled on their press conference, some reports they put a new deal in front of the O’hole and are waiting on an answer.

    If its the house could be they are trying to get in his little bitty head and get it all pissed off so’s he goes on with his press conference and blows up with another hissy fit.


  51. Nevergiveup
    51 | July 15, 2011 10:59 am

    obama is back to the homework thing and this should have been done before


  52. Nevergiveup
    52 | July 15, 2011 10:59 am

    More scare tactics


  53. Nevergiveup
    53 | July 15, 2011 11:01 am

    Shared sacrifice and balanced approach? Hum, where have I heard that before?


  54. Nevergiveup
    54 | July 15, 2011 11:03 am

    I got to say, he loves to repeat himself—yup he dropped in the corporate jets owners


  55. Nevergiveup
    55 | July 15, 2011 11:04 am

    Ah so good republicans are with him and it’s only the bad republicans in congress getting in the way? Ok now I get it. I’m sure glad he cleared that up for me


  56. RIX
    56 | July 15, 2011 11:04 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    More scare tactics

    This is Sophistry. Obama either created the crisis
    or he is astro turfing.
    Either way he is trying to exploit it to his benefit
    & cripple future generations with debt.


  57. southwood
    57 | July 15, 2011 11:05 am

    Who is the Scotsman in the video at 5.07 ? Anyone ? He looks nigglingly familiar but I can’t say who he is.


  58. RIX
    58 | July 15, 2011 11:07 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Shared sacrifice and balanced approach? Hum, where have I heard that before?

    Then he should join the sacrifice & knock off all of
    the taxpayer funded trips & his fabulous life style.


  59. 59 | July 15, 2011 11:13 am

    @ RIX:

    Michelle Antionette must have her amusements…


  60. Da_Beerfreak
    60 | July 15, 2011 11:14 am

    All Dirty Barry ever does is lie, then it should be no surprises that no one ever believes a word he says. (Expect for the Mushroom. They live for his shit.) Dirty Barry has lost any creditability he might have had with the People, if he even had any creditability with them in the first place. He refuses to listen to anybody. So why should anybody listen to him??


  61. Nevergiveup
    61 | July 15, 2011 11:17 am

    He is damn near incoherent today


  62. Nevergiveup
    62 | July 15, 2011 11:18 am

    Has he called on any Fox News guy?


  63. 63 | July 15, 2011 11:21 am

    @ RIX:

    NBC helped Obama get elected.


  64. 64 | July 15, 2011 11:22 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    I want to see him fall down on the floor and start chewing the rug! :twisted:


  65. 65 | July 15, 2011 11:23 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    In a few weeks the Colombians will have a surprise for Obama. I know stuff I can’t let out yet. Let’s just say that pistol in Colombia is the tip of the iceberg.

    Hmmm, can you e-mail me some details? I don’t have any sources that I can quote, but words is also that their is a huge California connection to the “Fast and Furious” scandal that is being kept very hush hush.

    Here a hint though… There were three field divisions of “Fast and Furious” Phoenix, Dallas, and that’s right Los Angeles. Which one haven’t you heard a single word about yet?

    Los Angeles

    Field Intelligence Group will analyze information and leads to assign to field offices for investigation.

    Conference calls will be conducted between the Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Phoenix field divisions for coordination and information sharing between field divisions.

    Border liaison officer in San Diego, California.

    Firearms trafficking group (San Diego I) works with local law enforcement, ICE, the FBI, and through the border liaison,Mexican law enforcement

    Will coordinate with U.S. Attorneys and county District Attorneys to address issues in cases so fast and successful prosecutions can occur


  66. chickadee
    66 | July 15, 2011 11:25 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Ah so good republicans are with him and it’s only the bad republicans in congress getting in the way? Ok now I get it. I’m sure glad he cleared that up for me

    “Good Republicans ? ? ? ”
    How insulting. He is essentially calling them lapdog cowards.

    zero is such a lowlife pos.


  67. 67 | July 15, 2011 11:29 am

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Is he using 3rd World Demagogue rhetoric?


  68. RIX
    68 | July 15, 2011 11:36 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:

    NBC helped Obama get elected.

    The whole MSM was in the tank, but NBC is the worst.
    MSNBC is an asylum.


  69. 69 | July 15, 2011 11:39 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:
    Don’t be sorry. the stuff about Libya is very relevant. The thread topic, not so much.
    irrelevant to you maybe.
    some of us find balkan news stories as pertinent and relevant as some find the stories we run about israel.

    It’s an expose on falsified news coverage.

    Sometimes it takes MANY YEARS for the truth to come out.

    By that time, it’s no longer considered “breaking news.”

    That said, the stuff about Libya IS also relevant.

    So is the F&F scandal and so is the budget; I’m not blogging much about either one at the moment, because I’m all about the counterjihad, but they are relevant.


  70. 70 | July 15, 2011 11:42 am

    RIX wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ RIX:
    NBC helped Obama get elected.

    The whole MSM was in the tank, but NBC is the worst.
    MSNBC is an asylum.

    Yup. And don’t get me started on CNN.


  71. 71 | July 15, 2011 11:44 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    now is the time for the gop to fight back on this rhetoric.
    the momentum is swinging the pendulum.
    They seem to be, but the question is do they have the guts and where with all to go balls to the wall

    we have blogs, foxnews, emails etc…
    there is no reason the gop cant get the message out at this point. this isnt 20 years ago when it was just cbs nbc abc cnn

    We also have Tea Party where we go and meet people face to face.

    We have our churches. After church, we have some coffee and we get together and talk informally among ourselves. While the church itself takes no political stance, we reach a lot of people and learn a lot of things that way.


  72. 72 | July 15, 2011 11:48 am

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    They don’t stay on point because most people are not all that interested in old news and some not so substantiated old news at that.

    Yes, the old news was, indeed, false. That’s exactly the point!

    This is about a person debunking false news coverage from the early 1990s – false news coverage that influenced the US to go in on the wrong side in the Balkans.

    I personally know the individual who went to Dubrovnik and saw for himself that the old city had neither been destroyed, nor had it even suffered any significant damage. He filmed it and YouTubed it to show it had not been destroyed.


  73. RIX
    73 | July 15, 2011 11:50 am

    @ 1389AD:

    Yup. And don’t get me started on CNN

    .

    Yeah they’re no bargain.
    FNC is eating their lunch & MSNBC combined.
    You could pretty much hide people in the Witness
    Protection Program on the air at MSNBC.


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