I hate seeing talented people die so young. It’s a shame that a talented singer died at such a young age.
LONDON (AP) — Amy Winehouse, the beehived soul-jazz diva whose self-destructive habits overshadowed a distinctive musical talent, was found dead Saturday in her London home, police said. She was 27.
Winehouse shot to fame in 2006 with the album “Back to Black,” whose blend of jazz, soul, rock and classic pop was a global hit. It won five Grammys and made Winehouse – with her black beehive hairdo and old-fashioned sailor tattoos – one of music’s most recognizable stars. But the British star’s personal life, with its drug and alcohol abuse, eating disorders and destructive relationships, soon took over her career.
Police confirmed that a 27-year-old female was pronounced dead at the home in Camden Square northern London; the cause of death was not immediately known. London Ambulance Services said Winehouse had died before the two ambulance crews it sent arrived at the scene.
Rest in Peace!
Rodan Note: It turns out the killer in Norway was actually an anti-Islamic Rightwinger (See Note). As much as I hate Islam and Progressives, killing kids in cold blood is wrong and I condemn this vile act of insanity. I can understand an attack on a government building (not justifying it), but killing kids is wrong. Progressives and Islam can be defeated, but not like this. These acts discredit what us on the Right are trying to do. I hope the killer burns in hell.
Update: Lobo makes a good point.
I’m not sure how well that’s been established, actually.
There seem to be a number of questions about his background.
I suspect that in the end, he’s going to turn out to be more like their version of Jared Loughner.
I agree with this statement.
Addendum by 1389
Statement regarding the Utøya youth camp attack:
There has been a plethora of speculation and allegations bandied about in the media and the blogosphere with regard to the identity and motives of the Utøya youth camp attacker(s). Let me point out that we don’t have all of the facts yet (or perhaps any of them).
Just for starters, there hasn’t been a trial yet. Only the trial can establish whether the person arrested (namely Breivik) was the actual shooter (assuming that there was only one shooter, which we still don’t know).
We also don’t know who actually left the comments that were purportedly made by Breivik.
Nor do we know the extent to which the police and the judicial system in Norway are honest. These cases become political footballs. There have certainly been enough problems with that in the US, especially with regard to high-profile crimes and assassinations.
We don’t know whether the Oslo bombing, the youth camp attack, or both, could have been “false flag” operations. Even if they were not, there is always the danger that they could eventually be used as a “Reichstag fire” incident.
Anybody can leave comments on just about any website, forum, or blog that allows comments. They can leave comments under somebody else’s name if they feel like it, and the website owner generally won’t know.
Let me point out something else: A blog, forum, or website is not responsible for the mental health (or lack of it) of its commenters. We don’t know who those people really are. Some commenters are undoubtedly imposters.
At various times, we’ve had some looney tunes commenting on 1389 Blog, which is, of course, a counterjihadist site. Even though a few such commenters seem to have agreed with our viewpoint (at least to the extent that we can figure out what they are talking about), we don’t like getting comments from people who seem to be incoherent or mentally unbalanced. That is partly why we moderate the comments. If we were to accept no comments from anybody at all, that would cut us off from any dialog with our audience, and that would cut down on readership.
I will make two further comments:
Whoever left the comments under the name of Breivik was not connected with the counterjihad movement to any real extent, simply because he (or they) would know by now never to use Little Green Footballs as a source of information.
Whoever shot up the youth camp wasn’t a Christian, despite what he (or others) might claim. That isn’t something that a Christian would do. Nothing in Christian doctrine allows it.
Tags: Amy Winehouse, Norway
Repost from prior thread:
RIP Amy Winehouse. Squandered talent, a pity.
I’m not sure how well that’s been established, actually.
There seem to be a number of questions about his background.
I suspect that in the end, he’s going to turn out to be more like their version of Jared Loughner.
She had real talent, but was obviously a tortured soul
Dead way too soon.
After a vigorous and thorough interrogation, this criminal should be given a quick trial and hung in public.
MrPaulRevere wrote:
In Europe?
You must be joking. They don’t even have life without parole, much less the death penalty.
He’ll serve 15 or 20 years, and be released, after which he’ll spend the rest of his life living off the taxpayers.
The name is Amy Winehouse. Please fix!!!!!
@ lobo91:
Yeah I know, its Europe and all of that. In a just world that would be his fate.
@ 1389AD:
Well she was Jewish.
[...] Amy Winehouse dead at 27, and comments on Norway killings [...]
More links, plus my own statement on this, is here.
Krauthammer smacks a PBS host over bias:
lobo91 wrote:
He even has the crazy look of that bastard.
But I’m not so sure he isn’t a muzz convert. I’d like to know more abt. his ‘friends’ and associates. Did he buy that fertilizer for the jihadis’ bombs? These 2 vicious slaughters are related. Can not be mere coincidence.
What a great opportunity for an investigative reporter to search out the truth. . . . oh wait, do such people exist anymore. I guess only to slam Christians and portray the muzz barbarians as loving and peaceful.
I think that Jimi, Janis, and Morrison all died at 27 as well.
They certainly managed to cram every “rightwingnut” faction they could into this guys background. Everything from Christian fundie to Masonic/Templar associations. Jeesh.
@ lobo91:
Did an Update and used your comments.
vagabond trader wrote:
Never mind the fact that some of them are conflicting.
It’s either bogus or the guy was a Loughner-style nut.
1389AD wrote:
I added your remarks as an addendum.
I find it odd a virulent anti islamist would not go after “foreign” targets as opposed to his fellow countrymen.
vagabond trader wrote:
Yes, and remember how long we had to wait to even get the Ft. Hood killer’s name.
They protect that maniac so long.
Stooopid sheppie smith was nearly in tears, when finally, he had to say nidal hasan.
I’m taking with a boulder of salt anything the mfm says abt. this guy so soon.
And that includes anything nanny bloomberg may say to protect the muzz.
ie. I refuse to believe this Norwegian CHRiSTIAN was unhappy with obama care.
vagabond trader wrote:
Exactly! I’m starting to suspect false flag. Why didn’t this guy shoot up a Mosque or Islamic center.
@ chickadee:
I’m pretty sure that he was upset over the budget talks…
Rodan wrote:
Thanks very much!
I wonder if there’s somebody out there manipulating crazy people like Loughner to do these attacks, so as to discredit all non-leftists. I wouldn’t put anything past anybody these days.
Rodan wrote:
Yup.
@ 1389AD:
I’[m starting to think that.
The media is proclaiming the crazed Norway terrorist is a Christian, it says so on his FaceBook page. Does one click of a mouse on the profile edit page make one a Christian?
This guy is definitely NOT a Christian, wantonly killing innocents.
Rodan wrote:
The fact that he went after people connected with their left-wing party isn’t completely without logic, if it was actually politically motivated.
If someone here were upset with our government’s lack of border enforcement, for example, they might choose to take it out on Democrats, since they’re the ones pushing for open borders.
I still think the guy was just a nut, though.
Whatever his motivation, expecting Europe will see more of the same. From what I’ve been reading they are blissfully unaware of the pending dangers re: a forced multicult society in Norway. It took the cops over 40 minutes respond time to the island massacre.Also see my # 1. Yikes.
@ vagabond trader:
This is a parents worst nightmare. All those kids stranded on that island. Completely at the mercy of such a monster. He killed at least 80 kids.
It is so heartbreaking. This is true terrorism.
@ vagabond trader:
That in and of itself isn’t surprising.
Cops in places that are not used to significant acts of violence often respond poorly when such an attack does happen.
The same thing happened during the Columbine shooting. Littleton, Colorado is a bedroom community in the Denver suburbs, not the inner city.
@ 1389AD:
This gets weirder, the guy is a Free Mason.
If just one of those kids had had a gun and was trained to use it.
chickadee wrote:
That’s crazy talk! Norway is a gun-free zone!
//
@ lobo91:
No armed security presence on an island filled with political adherents and expecting national leaders to attend? Ineptitude comes to mind. Also, Norway, a wealthy country, has a national problem with the hiring of adequate police staff,more important things to do with the money like support the palis.
@ vagabond trader:
Germany is about the only European country with aggressive law enforcement officers, possibly as a result of the neutering of their military.
Timid response to violent incidents is the norm in Europe.
Head over to Atlas…she has a post up where the Nnorway bomber links to Charles Johnson. There is proof on paper, not just a claim by Pam I would post the link but her site had too much shit on it and chokes my machine.
@ lobo91:
That’s what I think.
@ vagabond trader:
Inadequate police presence and limited self defense options. Sounds like paradise//////
lobo91 wrote:
Yeah, that’s all well and good. Too bad the killer didn’t know that.
That’s inevitably the problem in disarmed societies, there’s always some evil thugs who come in with open maws slashing at the helpless sheep.
@ NoThreat2U:
Wonder what his nick over at the swamp was.
@ chickadee:
Of course he knew it.
It told him that he was in no danger of return fire.
chickadee wrote:
vagabond trader wrote:
It’s ridiculous. It should be a crime to NOT carry a gun.
vagabond trader wrote:
Yeah, if you consider NYC, Chicago, or San Francisco “paradise”…
lobo91 wrote:
I should have put the sarc tag.
NoThreat2U wrote:
By Charles Johnson’s 6 degrees of separation logic, Charles Johnson is responsible for what happened n Norway.
Speranza wrote:
Ironic, is it not?
And it sure doesn’t take all six degrees!
If the muzz can pin this kind of massacre on others, it takes the heat off them. They may not get the ‘credit’ but they do get to terrorize and create chaos in the civilized world.
He may be a nut case and a useful tool of the muzz.
NoThreat2U wrote:
I hate Typepad. It plays hell with both IE and Firefox. The commenting facility tends to hang up. It leaves some type of invalid cookies, and when you go back in to comment again, you end up having to clear your cookies.
If you’re serious about blogging you rent a domain and you rent server space and you use WordPress.
1389AD wrote:
or you can write your own program!
/
chickadee wrote:
That’s the thing about terrorists. They want the credit and make sure they get it, otherwise it is not useful to them. Yes, they want us all dead, but unless they get to claim credit for it, their 72 Virginians will not await them in Paradise.
@ DaveinAZ:
@ 1389AD:
I think it is because she has all those widgets and mini videos and stuff like that all over the place. It needs cleaned up and streamlined. Takes me forever to unload her page too!
Wow, it took 90 minutes for police to arrive. Inexcusable.
I’m sorry, but I’m not having any trouble seeing the killer to be just exactly what he is being presented as, a virulent, violent nationalist who blamed Labor for ruing his country to the point that he struck back directly at the Labor party. Bomb outside the PM’s office, then scooting off to attack the most vulnerable Labor party target he could find. Unless and until evidence to the contrary is uncovered, it’s a perfectly logical story and motive.
@ Mike C.:
Uh, “ruining.”
That’s what happens when your government believes that “things like this don’t happen here.”
@ lobo91:
Fustercluck. These are descendents of Vikings.
vagabond trader wrote:
They’re the descendants of the Vikings who stayed home, though.
@ lobo91:
Apparently.
Seems as though the nutter wanted to be caught, he certainly had the head start for a getaway.
I see that al-chuki is in the throes of a prolonged orgasm.
He finally has a white, non muslim, terrorist.
To al-chuki, this was always the holy grail, the coming of the messiah, the answer to his prayers.
Nope…no hyperbole here…
@ lobo91:
Sounds like they’re desperate for gay monetary contributions.
If I had to pick which event was more unlikely this weekend, I would have gone with the death of Winehouse. Much of Europe is committing suicide and you’re going to have events in Norway as countries decline.
As to the killer, I don’t believe any of what the media has to say and I wouldn’t put it past them or the Norwegian government to lie about the killer in order to ease any tensions that may be building there. Honestly, right now, I believe most politicians are thanking Gaia or the universe that the killer wasn’t Muslim.
Canada had the Montreal Massacre in 1989. Per the Wikipedia link: “Marc Lépine was born Gamil Gharbi to a French-Canadian mother and an Algerian father.” NEVER was this mentioned in the media. Heck, you have to go half way through the article on Wikipedia for that sentence. NEVER was a picture released, which retrospectively, even my then liberal Canadian self found odd. Mark Steyn was the ONLY journalist I’ve ever seen actually mention that Gharbi was the “son of an Algerian-Muslim wife-beater.”
Even today, the vast majority of Canadians have no idea who the real Marc Lepine was. The Canadian media and government have done an ‘admirable’ job of keeping this nugget quiet in the name of cultural sensitivity. I expect no less from the Norwegian media and politicians.
Stateless Infidel (formerly Canadian Infidel)
vagabond trader wrote:
I like the description of the anchor as being “openly gay.”
How, exactly, is that relevant to being a TV news anchor?
Bumr50 wrote:
And Kurt Cobain, they are the “27 Club”…
@ lobo91:
Par for the course. All correct “minorities” must be divided into neat and tidy victim groups. It an obsession with the “fair minded” left.
vagabond trader wrote:
I guess they should start referring to Megyn Kelly as an “openly married” anchor.
Makes about as much sense…
@ Stateless_Infidel:
Thanks for the info. How interesting, covering for the muzz even back then.
@ lobo91:
An openly married and breeding anchor…..
vagabond trader wrote:
Yup. She probably couldn’t get a job in San Francisco…
@ lobo91:
Yeah the adventuring Vikings became Normans and Russians.
@ vagabond trader:
@ lobo91:
They’re claiming this is the guy’s video.
@ Rodan:
Removed. Huh.
Rodan wrote:
Of course, most of the European countries have the same issue.
They didn’t actually lose a generation of their male populations to WWII.
The ones who were physically or mentally unfit stayed home and bred the next generation.
Keith Richards – 1
Amy Winehouse – 0
lobo91 wrote:
That history also affects everyone’s mindset.
@ John Difool:
Nice.
btw, have the two of them ever been seen together?
Obama compares himself to Lincoln:
vagabond trader wrote:
It’s hard to tell them apart, go to the link and tell me if thats Keith or Amy.
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=86348
@ Rodan:
I was/am a member of the Order of DeMolay and shall be so until death. Jacques DeMolay was a man of great honor and integrity. Its unfortunate the killer mentions him at all.
@ 1389AD:
I’m constantly amazed at how “War is never the answer” and “Give peace a chance” became the mottoes of the children of those who fought WWII.
@ lobo91:
That makes total sense.
@ vagabond trader:
You’re welcome. When our societies rebuild, one of the main tenets of society should be not to believe anything in the media or academia.
On that note, Don Lemon on CNN, two minutes ago, verified that he is apparently the world’s biggest fan of Amy with the words “No one on this planet is a bigger fan of Amy Winehouse than me…” I loathe the media…
Mike C. wrote:
I actually believe this too. It’s torture to watch your country self destruct, finding only a few like minded souls on the internet, being labelled a racist hatemonger by your government, media and most of the rest of people who happily live and never grew out of that ‘magical thinking’ phase of childhood. As things disintegrate throughout Europe, more of these events wouldn’t surprise me.
I’m standing by my prediction of one small Muslim event triggering the demise of Islam in Europe a few years after the European economy collapses.
lobo91 wrote:
Mind boggling isn’t it!
@ Stateless_Infidel:
I agree.
vagabond trader wrote:
Are you talking about the same Megyn kelly that vamps
Ludwig into thoughts of impurity and touching himself?
lobo91 wrote:
It became the motto of the children of those who died fighting WWII, not of those who survived WWII. Give peace a chance is nothing less than the bitter cry of children that it is unfair that their parent or relative died fighting a war they themselves didn’t understand fought half way around the world.
@ RIX:
One and the same. That vessel of impure thoughts.
@ 1389AD:
That was a good read. Thanks. Although Hesperado points out there’s no evidence of any sort of Hitler on the rise, and I’ll agree with him now, I still think the collapse of the Western economies is going to lead to a Muslim house cleaning.
I’d lay money on a) seriously curtailing immigration first; b) offering incentives for Muslims to leave; c) a rise in anti-Muslim sentiment difficult for even the media and government to ignore d) that one little spark – a brutal rape, one more demonstration, a murder and then chaos.
@ Rodan:
Because that would have made the dead muslims into martyrs and earned them sympathy?
No, if his goal was to protest the socialism and dhimmification of Norway, he chose his targets well: the seat of government, and a summer camp attended specifically by the youth wing of the Socialist Party.
And a note to 1389: the last sentence in the post is simply the “no true Scotsman” fallacy. The killer could, unfortunately, be a Christian, a Christian who did an evil act contrary to the teachings of Jesus.
But it is still too early to know for sure. None of the data we are getting can be verified as true.
@ vagabond trader:
Norway does permit their citizens to own firearms; the suspect had 3 guns registered to him, IIRC. Probably does not allow concealed carry, though.
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
He was a Free Mason, which strikes me as odd.
Rodan wrote:
Yea, me too, fundamentalist Christianity and Freemasonry don’t exactly go hand in hand.
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
Bet you can own weapons only for sporting purposes and probably difficult to get approval for that,just a guess.
I don’t fully understand the doings of facebook but this looks interesting.
@ John Difool:
Exactly. Masons have a soft spot for Islam. This whole thing is weird.
@ vagabond trader:
Just as suspected.
I know, its wiki
Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
Norway does allow civilian gun ownership, but with significant restrictions. All gun ownership is based on demonstrated need. Rifles and shotguns are fairly common, for those who have passed the rigorous requirements to obtain a hunting license, but handguns are less common.
@ Rodan:
Rodan, I don’t know what to believe right now about the guy’s associations. There are claims that his Facebook page has been altered, and it was put up only 4 days before the killings.
For all we know, this guy could have been a cat’s paw, drugged up and brainwashed by who the Hell knows?
Or he could be just what he appears to be: an ultranationalist who went beyond all acceptable means of promulgating his beliefs.
That Facebook page could be complete disinformation, for all we know.
Rodan wrote:
Most of the fundie Christians I know/have known or are familiar with in media and literature are very suspicious of the Free Masons and tie them into the whole Illuminati/Bilderburg/ New World Order thing.
Jack van Impe and John Hagee for instance. Just doesn’t pass the smell test for me.
@ Rodan:
Which fits if the dude is insane. The insane are, by definition, weird.
@ vagabond trader:
Maybe he got his guns in Mexico…
@ lobo91:
Dang, that Fast and Furious is going global.
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/07/fjordman-speaks-out.html
Fjordman Speaks Out
That is CJ and LGF he is talking about. Killer linked to LGF, but not Gates or Fjordman, tho.
vagabond trader wrote:
Operation Lutefisk
@ Iron Fist:
I do think this guy is crazy. But there’s some weirs stuff about this guy. He’s the perfect strawman.
Rodan wrote:
What’s really amazing is comparing Europe to Israel.
You see basically polar opposite reactions to the same events (namely, the mass slaughter that was the first half of the 20th century).
In both cases, “Never again” is the operative slogan.
The Europeans have largely adopted the John Lennon “Imagine” approach to things, and decided that if they no longer believe in anything, then everyone will get along.
The Jews, of course, took the exact opposite approach, and built a sanctuary for themselves which they’ve vowed to defend to the death.
All in all, I’d say the Israeli version is working better…
@ Rodan:
We shall all learn soon enough. Authorities say he is anxious to explain.
@ John Difool:
Talk about biological weapons!
pat wrote:
Of course, unless they let him go on TV or something, the only “explanation” we’re going to get is what said authorities choose to give us…
Rodan wrote:
Jared Loughner was batshit crazy and was quite fond of left-wing literature like The Communist Manifesto and Rules for Radicals and he was a 9/11 Truther, but that didn’t stop the MSM, the left and the Dems in congress from saying he was Sarah Palin’s and the Tea Party’s Manchurian Candidate.
@ pat:
Did you read the quotes from his “writngs” in the comments section of the Fjordman story? Whoa!
@ vagabond trader:
Just now at your suggestion. Rather heated, eh? You know Norway is not a populous country. With only 3M people, everyone will know someone involved.
@ vagabond trader:
Yeah, I’m going to go with “nutcase”…
@ lobo91:
Yowza!
Sorry, but blowing up a government building and shooting a bunch of teenagers doesn’t make you an “armed resistance fighter.”
@ lobo91:
What exactly was he resisting?
pat wrote:
Sanity?
lobo91 wrote:
That’s the money quote, right there.
@ lobo91:
Works for me.
Norway’s gun regulations don’t sound too dissimilar from those currently in force in Canada. I could own a handgun if I really wanted to: take a firearms safety course, become a member of a gun club with a range, and get the necessary permits. Long guns somewhat less restricted. In fact, we can own some semi-autos that Americans cannot, by reason of the “assault weapons” ban.
So, if I were a whacked-out nut like Breivik, but was able to pose as sane, I could quite readily arm myself with an arsenal of weapons, and carry out a similar crime. The restrictive gun laws don’t really place that much impediment on a person who is on a “mission”. They might deter somebody who gets hot under the collar and declares, “I’m going to go buy a gun and shoot that dirty, no-good S.O.B.” Might, meaning that the delay imposed by the red tape might allow the hothead time to cool off. Might.
pat wrote:
What he regarded as the Labor party’s intolerable destruction of his country.
Sounds like a cross between unabomber and Major Hassan.
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
We no longer have a national “assault weapon” ban. CA is another matter, of course.
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
There is not now, nor has there ever been, an “assault weapons ban” in the US.
There were some restrictions on imports and production of a few things, but their ownership or sale was never prohibited (except by a couple of states like California).
Many European countries allow gun ownership. UK, Germany and Russia have about the strictest. Switzerland and Czech Republic among the most lenient. Shotguns and long guns can be owned in France.
@ Mike C.:
I find the American left’s destruction of this country “intolerable,” too.
And I own a good number of guns.
It would never occur to me to go shoot up the local meeting of the College Democrats, though.
Someone at AceofSpades had this quote and link:
“Some of my friends tried to stop him by talking to him. Many people think on the island that it was a test … comparing it to how it is to live in Gaza. So many people went to him and tried to talk to him, but they were shot immediately.” – Adrian Pracon
I’m self-editing myself here.
Stateless Infidel (formerly Canadian Infidel)
@ John Difool:
He turned out to be a Leftist radical.
@ Stateless_Infidel:
WTF?
@ Stateless_Infidel:
I don’t agree with killing kids, but that camp was pushing anti-Semitic indoctrination. There are other ways to combat this carp. Not shooting up kids.
@ lobo91:
They were indoctrinating kids with anti-Semitism.
Rodan wrote:
Even if that’s true, I don’t think shooting those same kids is the solution…
@ Stateless_Infidel:
Yeah, because crazed Israelis loaded for bear are always shooting up youth camps in Gaza. Always gotta get that Jooooo dig in don’t they?
@ lobo91:
I agree 100% There are other ways to combat this crap. Shooting kids hurt whatever cause this man was supporting.
@ vagabond trader:
A Progressive political party running a youth camp and teaching kids to hate Jews. Where have we seen this before?
Is there any evidence the shooting had anything at all to do with Jews or Israel?
@ lobo91:
Thanks for correcting me. I am pretty sure that some of the models that could not be imported into the USA could be imported into Canada.
Canada most likely will be getting rid of its hated long-gun registry in the months to come, since that was a plank of the Conservative Party platform, and they now own a majority in both the House of Commons and the Senate. I expect the announcement will come once they can find a way to provide alternative employment for those people displaced by the closure of the center, which is in New Brunswick, a province with chronic unemployment. Politics.
Interesting:
I’ve been listening to some Amy Winehouse songs on youtube. She actually had a pretty good voice.
lobo91 wrote:
I understand that, but here you have a nutter. And I rather suspect that camp was populated, at least in part, with the offspring of folks fairly high in the Labor party. Wasn’t the PM scheduled to speak there very soon?
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
That may have been true at the time, but it’s not anymore. That law expired in 2004, and there’s been no serious attempt to renew it.
The main effect of it, even when it was in place, was to raise the price of “banned” guns and magazines. Other than making a lot of money for people who had the foresight to stock up before it went into effect, it was mostly an annoyance.
vagabond trader wrote:
And it didn’t inspire the result they hoped it would.
They thought they could impress him with their hatred of israel.
@ Mike C.:
Maybe they should ban crazy people.
Of course, that won’t occur to them. They’ll ban guns, instead.
Funny how politicians are the same everywhere…
@ Rodan:
Rodan, do we really know if the youth camp was indoctrinating the kids with anti-Semitism? We know that Norway has a sad history of anti-Semitism, but was the camp actually carrying out indoctrination?
That “Gaza” comment sounds like a moonbat who has drunk the anti-Semitic kool-ade. But moonbats like that are a dime a dozen in Norway.
No question the Labor Party is anti-Semitic (in the guise of being anti-Zionist, of course), but it’s unclear to me that the specific purpose of that camp was to teach anti-Semitism.
Again, more information is needed.
@ Rodan:
I’m not doing Caturday today. There’s just too much going on.
Sorry…
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
I’m not saying that’s what the camp was all about. See 125 and 136.
1389AD wrote:
Check your email.
lobo91 wrote:
There have been crazy people ever since there have been people.
There will be crazy people until the Second Coming.
I don’t like it any more than you do, but we live in a fallen world, full of human frailty.
The only recent problem of signifigance in importing semi-auto rifles into the US was last year, when the State Dept. refused the normal procedure to repatriate over 100,000 M1 Garands and M1 carbines from S. Korea. American-made rifles.
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
See my #136 above.
It looks like anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian sentiment was pretty high on the agenda, but I haven’t seen anything about outright anti-Semitism.
Rodan wrote:
It hasn’t arrived yet. I’ll keep an eye on it.
Mike C. wrote:
And that was a problem with the executive branch being given too much discretion in interpreting regulations, rather than a gun issue per se.
There have been some rumblings about certain shotguns recently, too.
@ vagabond trader:
Well the Jews are evil or haven’t you been listening to the MFM.
I’m going to put this out there anyway. I’m obviously sad about what happened in Norway. You don’t want to see this type of inhuman behaviour. But Norway has made a choice for societal decline, as has all of Western Europe, Australia, Canada with the US barely hanging on by the fingernails.
Decline isn’t a bump free roller coaster ride to the bottom. Stuff like this is going to happen on the way. These aren’t the first kids that are going to be killed because our societies are suicidal and they’re not going to be the last.
After a while of warning people about Islam, knowing that both my governments, the media, and most of the US and Canada would just write me off as a racist, hate-monger with no valid concerns, I just said screw it. I’ve already pre-mourned all of the dead until we decide to fight back. I’m sad for Norway, but again, I’m more surprised at the death of Amy.
Stateless Infidel (formerly Canadian Infidel)
@ 1389AD:
Which is an argument for more guns, not less, if you ask me…
@ lobo91:
Read that somewhere yesterday and wondered if it were true. Interesting sidebar.Curious how so many leftist Europeans have chosen to champion and obssess over the palis and assorted muzz in order to expiate their deeply ingrained guilt over the near destruction of European Jewry.
@ lobo91:
If those camp guards were armed,. they could of stopped this guy.
Rodan wrote:
Seems like common sense to me that if you’re going to have a bunch of people gathered in a location where it’s particularly difficult for law enforcement to arrive quickly, you should have some kind of security of your own.
Just like you’d want your own firefighting equipment, or a medic.
New thread!
@ lobo91:
Could not disagree more.Vigorous anti Zionism today is the cowardly out for declaring Jew hate, my preferred term.One and the same in Europe.
vagabond trader wrote:
You are right and it is disgusting. Let the Irish, the Norwegians,et al work out their own national neuroses instead of projecting them onto the Jews of Israel.
@ Speranza:
Its like porn, you know it when you see/hear it.
Rodan wrote:
Putting it up now.
@ Speranza:
They are so fckn warped,the ultimate blame the victims. Except we aren’t victims anymore and they hate us even more for that fact.
vagabond trader wrote:
Exactly and every now and then the mask slips and the Jew hatred adn teh Jew contempt comes out. The worst believe it or not comes from Jews themselves who want to be accepted by their non Jewish neighbors and friends. Some of the worst Jew haters for example in Britain are Jews (like Labour M.P. Gerald Kaufman).
vagabond trader wrote:
British writer Julie Burchill actually made the quote which I paraphrased about the Irish (and others) projecting their own national neuroses onto the Jews of Israel. It was in a guest column in the Jerusalem Post regarding an boycott of Israel by Irish “artists” 98% nobody ever even heard of.
@ Speranza:
Concur!Israeli lefties tick me off too.Stupid assholes would never have been born if it had not been for the sanctuary of a Jewish homeland.
vagabond trader wrote:
The whole staff of Haaretz ought to be shipped off to Gaza starting with teh evil duo of Gideon Levy and Amira Hass. Can you imagine the leftist hate filled piece of dreck those two could have created had they ever married?
Rodan wrote:
The post is in the queue now, ready to put up.
At GOV, they had to close the comments, at Fjordman’s request, because of trolls.
@ Speranza:
Read that a while back I think. The Irish should be natural allies of Israel, both oppressed by the British Empire. Instead Ireland sat out WWII in a snit as H!tler burned through Europe and would have used them as a springboard into England. Despicable.
@ 44 Speranza: Yep by the Charles counting method that makes him guilty as sin.
vagabond trader wrote:
The Irish identify Israel with Britain (something the British probably would laugh and be appalled about) and the Palis as the Irish circa 1916 -22). It is insane.
orangecrush wrote:
I love to turn the Johnsonian logic back on him.
Ok New new thread. Fjordman answers back CJ.
@ 45 1389AD: It’s probably that Kilgore Trout actually egged the guy on in one of his visits to a neo nazi forum. Of all the indirect people in this tradegy, Kilgore would be one of the most culpable. Then most any self serving troll after that.
vagabond trader wrote:
Eamon Da Valera signed the condolence book at the German Embassy in Dublin (yes Germany still had diplomatic relations with Eire up until the end of the war) on hearing about the death of Adolf Hitler.
Rodan wrote:
Yes Daddy we will go there in a minutes.
@ 152 lobo91: Crazy people unless they are way off the deep end will start to cope when they are around authority.
@ Speranza:
Back in the 70s they actually admired Israel, esp after Entebbe. Guess joining the EU and indoctrination of a generation has changed that. A pity.
@ Speranza:
Barf, never knew that.
If this was a single muslim sudden jihadi he would be branded insane. We have quite a few of these in the US. They are tried on being insane even if they were religiously motivated. He comes from the helpless violent religion.
A paranoid schizophrenic feeling helpless and backed into the corner might do something like this if he was rejecting meds. And prone to violence. There a lot of schizophrenics that can maintain ok. Lack of a support system for him.
orangecrush wrote:
Think Charles Whitman the Texas Tower sniper of August 1, 1966.
vagabond trader wrote:
I guess they perfer to be completely Europeanized and anti Israelism. anti Semitism is the way to go.
As for De Valera’s condolence book signing for Adolf Hitler. Well you can look it up.
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
Maybe they can start up some moose hunting centers instead
@ lobo91:
Agreed. It was moonbat Central, at least from our perspective.
Sad deal with Amy Winehouse. Why are creative souls always such tortured souls? She was quite the talented young lady. I feel for her parents.
@ Speranza:
As a person of Irish descent, I’m ashamed to hear that! He let his hatred for the UK get the best of him.
mtc wrote:
De Valera represented only himself.