When you combine left-wing nihilism with Islamofascist sympathies – you get Ma’alot and Utoya. The Norwegians are well on the road to self destruction with their Labour party, left-wing Lutheran churches, and multicultural fixations. You cannot be an apologist for terrorism directed at one nation (Israel) and not expect that the cancer will not strike you one day.
by Daniel Greenfield
Anders Breivik’s attack on the youth camp of the Norwegian Labour Party has its most obvious precedent in the Maalot Massacre when Palestinian Muslim gunmen attacked an Israeli elementary school, taking over a hundred children hostage, and then using automatic weapons to kill as many of them as they could. But the link between Maalot and Utoya is more than casual. The Workers Youth League which ran the camp had a long history of supporting the same kind of terrorists who had perpetrated the Maalot Massacre.
Lars Gule, is the Secretary General of the Norwegian Humanist Association, and a defender of Muslims having the right to discriminate against women and gays. (The two are not a contradiction in Norway.) He was the leader of the Workers Youth League at the University of Bergen– and a DFLP terrorist.
The DFLP were the perpetrators of the Maalot Massacre. And two years after that attack, Lars Gule was trained by the DFLP and dispatched to Israel via Norway with explosives hidden in the covers of his books.
“The Suspect had made it known to his employers that he wanted to take human life… to strengthen Palestinian fighting spirit and morale,” Norwegian police records noted.
[...]
How can we make sense of this? Glenn Beck compared the Workers Youth League camp to a Hitler Youth camp. He was close, but not entirely right. The roots of the Workers Youth League are actually Communist.
Norway’s Labour Party was a member of the Communist International. The Workers Youth League was formed by the merger of the Left Communist Youth League and the Socialist Youth League of Norway. We often use “Communist” as a pejorative– but in this case the Utoya camp, literally was a Communist youth camp.
The day before the massacre, Norwegian Foreign Minister Gahre-Store visited the camp and was greeted with banners calling for a boycott of Israel, and Gahre-Store responded with an Anti-Israel speech to cheers from the campers. There is something ominous about such indoctrination of hate. It is not quite on the level of the Hitler Youth, but neither is it a world apart.
In the 1930′s, Germans were encouraged to blame their problems on the Jews. In this decade, Norwegians are encouraged to blame their problems on the Jews. There are few children of workers at the Workers Youth League camp. They are for the most part the children of the party, the sons and daughters of bureaucrats and party leaders, training the next generation to perpetrate the Labour Party state.
Breivik came from that same background. The son of the left wing elite. And if his parents’ marriage had not collapsed, with the young boy allotting a share of the blame to the Labour Party, he would likely have a comfortable spot in the socialist state. Breivik may have turned against his roots, but the idea that terroristic violence is a legitimate solution is one that he could have easily picked up on the left.
Gahre-Store may have been greeted with a banner calling for the boycott of Israel, but he would never have been greeted with one calling for a boycott of terrorists. And indeed if there is an Islamist terrorist group that Gahre-Store doesn’t support, it’s hard to find. Gahre-Store had called for negotiating with Al-Shahaab in Somalia, an Al-Qaeda offshoot, he spoke with Hamas leader Khaled Mashal and called for a reconciliation with the Taliban.
Nor is the Workers Youth League call for the destruction of Israel a recent one. In the 70′s, the movement was already pushing for a One State Solution. The man who led the organization then went on to become the country’s Foreign Minister playing a key role in the Oslo Accords that turned Israel into a free fire zone for the terrorist allies of the League and the Labour Party.
Media commentators have made a great deal of Breivik’s radicalization, but despite his death toll, his radicalization seems to be an isolated event in comparison to the magnitude of radicalization at Utoya. If Breivik’s violence and bigotry is to be condemned– shouldn’t the species of violence and bigotry at Utoya be condemned as well?
The left can hold up Utoya as an example, but there are a legion of counterexamples. Nor the least of which is Lars Gule, traveling with explosives in his backpack, on a journey that took him from DFLP terrorist to Workers Youth League leader.
[...]
But what Norway’s political elite failed to grasp is that the genie of terrorism cannot be kept in a lamp, to emerge only at your command. Once you legitimize terrorism as a tool of political change, you lose the ability to determine who will make use of it. Breivik followed the example of Lars Gule, that of the Marxist terrorists, whose intellectual legacy is the black tar that seeps through the painted walls of Norwegian foreign policy.
The hatred and terrorist collaboration on display at Utoya was the symptom of a larger disease. “Something is rotten in the state of Denmark,” Marcellus proclaims in Hamlet. It’s equally rotten in Norway.
Breivik was one expression of that rottenness. But there are many others. Like Lars Gule, and his vision of a secular atheism living side by side with bigoted Islamism. Or Gahre-Store following in the footsteps of countless left wing foreign ministers by opening Norway’s doors to every Islamist terrorist group out there. Or the children being groomed to become the future leaders of Norway taught to hate as fervently as their Fatah associates.
Read the rest: Something is rotten in Norway
Tags: Anders Breivik, Daniel Greenfield, Jonas Gahre-Store, Lars Gule, Sultan Knish
Interesting and appropriate choice of words. The Left do perpetrate government. Gangster government, I believe Michele Bachmann has called it…
It was wrong what this shooter did, but I have no sympathy for Norway.
@ Iron Fist:
I don’t agree with what the shooter did. But he was right that the Norwegian left is allied with Islam and seek to destroy European civilization.
Israel’s Leftist naivete in this realm is best covered (in my experience) in Kahane’s (yes, I know…blah blah blah.) “they must go!” wherein he clearly exposes how every Leftist plan to appease the terrorists, and excuse their terrorism has only lead to more terrorism.
One perfect example of this (quite fittingly for this thread) is the Olso Accords – eviscerated by Mudar Zahran in the Hudson New York – “Is It Time Israel Ends Oslo?.
Lastly, after performing research on the policies and actions of Norway regarding Israel, the United States, and terrorism, I have to wonder what part Racism, or systemic effects of Anti-Racist indoctrination, have had on the World’s response to Norway. They walk like a Muslim terrorist supporting country, swim like a Muslim terrorist supporting country, and quack like a terrorist supporting country and yet we treat them like a civilized Western country.
hmmmmmm. Would we be so forgiving of Syria, Yemen, Tunisia, Libya, Iraq, or Afganistan?
Rodan wrote:
I understand what your saying BUT and it’s those buts that get you into trouble …”But he was right that the Norwegian left is allied with Islam and seek to destroy European civilization.” …That statement and any condemnation of the shooting should not be connected. It’s a losing argument.
@ WrathofG-d CONT:
I meant to include this link to “They Must Go!”
(-the little minded idiots, quiver in self-righteous and ignorant anger)
Breivik is a beast. Not unlike four deranged bears
WrathofG-d wrote:
Syria or Yeman, yes. The others less so. We are downright accomodating to Iran, too. We foolishly assign to them the status of “victim” and, further, assign to the designated “victim” a status (“victimhood”) that the Left considers unassailable. Norway’s appeasement of Islam is part and parcel to the direction that the Left would take all the Western world. That it ends in a Totalitarian Caliphate and the West as slaves (“dhimmis”) troubles the Left none in the least. Indeed, they may see that as a feature. The West atoning for colonialism and slavery by being colonized and enslaved.
waldensianspirit wrote:
I’ll bet he was just a normal joe that got feed up with the daily shit that was going on in his world and snapped. It’s going to happen again, and it will keep on happening because no one is trying to fix the problems that set him off in the first place. This is only the beginning…
Syrian tanks firing on residential neighborhoods? Stuff like this has to happen every 30 years or so in Syria. Get’s rid of all the bad blood, or so Clemenza says?
Norway has gone insane with its naivete and Rabbi Kahane was a crypto – totalitarian.
Nevergiveup wrote:
Hildebeast said that Assad was a reformer.
@ Iron Fist:
The Leftists will take the Shahada.
@ Nevergiveup:
I completely agree. One just cannot make a point by starting the
Nevergiveup wrote:
I wish both sides the best of luck.
@ WrathofG-d:
Good luck and good hunting! I wonder if both sides can lose? The example of Lebanon’s civil war would seem to indicate that they can…
@ Speranza:
Hillary is the poster girl for insipid ,amorality
Speranza wrote:
oh whaaa. Please argue the incorrectness of his actual statements (those I am promoting at least) and let’s move past the character assassination. Please, tell me where he is wrong in pointing out that the Leftist policies of appeasing and excusing Islamist hatred of the West and Jews did not contribute and directly encourage more hatred and violence towards the West and Jews.
Or…you can continue to tell me what a jerk Kahane was. If that is all you got.
RIX wrote:
In the interest of fairness, of course…
Iron Fist wrote:
I just can’t disagree with your edit.
Iron Fist wrote:
That’s going to get a whole lot of Hags pissed at ya doncha know…
@ RIX:
She puts the beast in “Hildabeast”, that is for sure…
i think that it is just despicable that John McCain
would take to
@ Da_Beerfreak:
The International Hags Union already hates my guts. What are they going to do? Turn me into a toad?
@ Nevergiveup:
Hopefully they all kill each other. Assad still has American blood on his hands from the Iraq War. I would love to do a drone strike and kill him.
@ Iron Fist:
Very unfair to hags, but I guess they are used to it.
I just can’t believe Hillary got it wrong.
@ RIX:
John McCain is despicable. What’d he do this time?
Iron Fist wrote:
That’s a fact.
@ Iron Fist:
@ RIX:
McCain is pathetic!
@ Da_Beerfreak:
I completely agree. One simply cannot begin a sentence with “I disagree with what the shooter did, but……” without losing he argument before it starts. There are simple no mitigating circumstances to cold blooded mass murder.
Certainly we can have a discussion about Norway’s wrongheadedness, but he murders MUST be wholly separate.
@ MacDuff:
Oops, re
McLame is about the best example around of what is wrong with American Politics.
@ MacDuff:
Responded to the wrong post……I think the point was made, however.
FOX News: “Progressive Revolt” underway?
Well I always found the progressives to be rather revolting also
Wow! Ms. Lindsey Graham gets one right! One in a row. Must be some kind of record:
That is, in a nutshell, my opposition to the deal. We’ve given up everything for a sound-bite “victory” that will cost us in the end.
@ MacDuff:
One can not always trust the quote button; it likes to play games with other Folks comments…
@ Iron Fist:
The Military is HUGE in South Carolina. That may have something to do with his “Conversion”
Iron Fist wrote:
Posted too soon, let me try again.
McCain is despicable for publically mocking
the Tea Party, calling them Hobbits among other
things.
Saint Louis University is the Bilikens, a mythical
Gnome. They have them all over the campus & if
you visit there, you will see one that looks just
like McCain. I’m serious.
Joe Biden is such an idiot!
I would have the same feeling about Obama if he werent in charge.
I feel embarrased when Biden makes public statements.
I am a lot more angry at Obama but I almost feel sorry for Joe, he is so dumb.
@ Iron Fist:
I wonder if McCain will get mad at his girlfriend now?
RIX wrote:
I would rather be a Hobbit then a Troll. Just sayin’…
Rodan wrote:
Yes he is & he just really needs to go away.
He was all contrite & on board until he got
reelected. Then went right back to himself.
RIX wrote:
I do not doubt that at all.
@ Prebanned:
Uncanny resemblance.
RIX wrote:
I am really glad he was not elected President, He probably would have supported the same agenda that Obama did.
Prebanned wrote:
I doubt we would have has anything as bad as obamacare
@ Da_Beerfreak:
I don’t think that McCain even knew that the Hobbits
are the good guys, when he did his smirking hatchet
job.
Prebanned wrote:
It is not the Republicans who keep re-electing McShame down here. The Dems go for him at about 4 to 1.
Eve
@ Nevergiveup:
I guess he didn’t vote for it and voted to repeal it.
Still he hogged the ball in 2008 and screwed us all.
Prebanned wrote:
He practically endorsed obama
I kind of hate to go off-topic, but have you folks seen this?
Looks like Eric Holder and company are literally strongarming banks, Chicago-style, into making bad loans to minorities. This doesn’t just border on criminal, it is criminal.
Threadworthy, IMHO.
RIX wrote:
He is a maverick for going after the TEA Party and a bigger maverick by casting Hobbits as bad guys.
He is a very edgy maverick, which would be entertaining if he wasn’t supposed to be on our side.
WrathofG-d wrote:
Me too!
@ Nevergiveup:
He probably voted for Obama.
WrathofG-d wrote:
He was correct on a lot of things but so what? The man had the tmeperment (I met him once) of a real totalitarian.
RIX wrote:
The Tea Party may be “hobbits,” but McCain is a Republican fifth-Gollumnist.
Nevergiveup wrote:
He should not be allowed to comment in public without a teleprompter, a ten second delay and a shock collar.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Heh!
@ Prebanned:
I bet McCain voted for Obama.
@ Prebanned:
I’ve never considered him on my side, not even when I voted for the son of a bitch. I knew he was the evil of two lessers, but I barely p[erceived him as being marginally better than Obama. But I think he’d have given us basically everything Obama has, even ObamaCare, though what he passed might not have quite been as straight-out-of-the-Soviet-playbook as ObamaCare.
Prebanned wrote:
As I posted on the earlier thread, had he been elected (although far better then Obama) he ultimately would’ve finished off what George W. Bush started and destroyed the Republican Party.
Nevergiveup wrote:
The old fart had no intention of winning.
Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
Holder is another Obama thug.
@ Speranza:
He probably voted for Obama.
Rodan wrote:
His daughter Meghan and her breasts definitely voted for Obama.
Rodan wrote:
I would not be surprised if W. and his daddy voted for Obama too. I am certain that Barbara, Laura and the twins did.
@ Speranza:
The Bush years was Conservatism’s low point. St. George almost killed Conservatism.
@ Speranza:
So did Megan McCain.
@ Speranza:
That’s three votes for Obama!
Rodan wrote:
I am sad to say that you are probably right. Don’t forget that “conservatives” such as Sean Hannity are already sucking up to Jeb.
Rodan wrote:
But two of them are fake! lol
Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
Reparations!
Iron Fist wrote:
Yeah, and it might have been palatable enough people would not be trying to repeal it.
@ Speranza:
If Jeb ran, you would see Conservatives flock to him. They are so delusional. The Bush family just uses them.
I told my liberal friend on Saturday that it would have been better that Obama did absolutely nothing rather then doing the stimulus and ObamaCare. We would have been on the road to recovery. The shmuck told me the stimulus was not large enough – I kid you not!
Rodan wrote:
All he needs to do is toss some meaningless red meat rhetoric at them and they will all swoon.
@ Prebanned:
I never bought that Maverick crap about McCain.
A Maverick cuts himself from the herd, but does
not go over to the other herd & work against his
old herd.
McCain is just a political quissling.
Prebanned wrote:
Remember what San Fran Nan said “We have to first pass the bill before we know what’s in it”.
@ Speranza:
The reverence some Conservatives have for the Bush Syndicate boggles my mind.
Debt deal includes the “possibility” of tax hikes. Given the Democrats endless desire for tax increases, I think this is just a dodge to get a “commission” together to raise taxes in a “bi-partisan” way. The more I learn about this deal the more it stinks.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Sad, but true.
RIX wrote:
He is an attention grabbing media suck up. Anything to get a favorable mention in the Washington Post and an invite to the best K Street (Georgetown) parties.
@ Speranza:
True dat, he is a media whore. He is always, always
available to run to a cammera and microphone.
RIX wrote:
His acolyte Miss Lindsey Graham is the same way and the King of Media Whoring is my former Sen. Chuck Schumer – never get between him and a microphone – you will get hurt.
Rodan wrote:
As we have said (full disclosure) in private – the Bush family loathes Reaganism and conservatism. They thought that Poppy should have been the nominee in 1980 instead of “the B rated actor”.
@ Speranza:
@ Speranza:
Did someone say Meghan McCain????????????????
“OMG, I am like a 27 year old female & that is
like a different generation than an older generation,
ya know?
And Sarah Plain is like sooooooo stoopid. gak!
Like she like embarasses me ya know. because I am
like a 27 year old female”
Speranza wrote:
You guys are fighting the wrong fight at the moment
RIX wrote:
And my new breasts are like soooo awesome and Barack Obama totally rocks! Hullo you don’t agree?
Nevergiveup wrote:
Dude we are not fighting anything, we are stating facts as we see it and trying to warn against making the same mistakes of the past – that is how we wind up with McCain.
@ RIX:
She is like a 27 year old female, but she isn’t a 27 year old female? LGBTQRXYV?
@ Speranza:
.
The cool thing is though, when Lindsey Grahm speaks,
you can barely see McCains lips move.
Speranza wrote:
Not so sure about that and McCain and Bush were 2 different animals
Boehner on FOX now
Nevergiveup wrote:
no, that is the right fight. it is primary season. time for the gop to have an internal debate and find its path and make a plan.
the fight v obama is not until after the convention.
@ Nevergiveup:
We don’t want Jeb to run.
@ coldwarrior:
Exactly! The Bush-McCain-Boehner wing needs to be purged.
@ Speranza:
And my new breasts are like soooo awesome and Barack Obama totally rocks! Hullo you don’t agree?
“For sure .My boobs are like weapons, ya know?
Like much bigger than Sarah’s, and like so is my butt.
Like really bigger!!!!!!!!!!!!! Totally.
Nevergiveup wrote:
is he crying?
@ Rodan:
I don’t want Jeb to run. The Bushes have done enough to this country. W was better than Gore or Kerry, though. We really didn’t want either of those two fucks in the President’s office. They’d have been worse than Obama, especially Gore during 9-11…
@ RIX:
You left out the most imoportant part:
Iron Fist wrote:
For sure, it’s a dcifferent generation than , like you
know another geereation. Ya know?
Every thing any one can find on Kevin O’Riley of NSC.
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/
The fat old man is asking.
Issa etal need more too.
We the People are paying this guys way via our tax money so he is ours.
@ Iron Fist:
W being better than Kerry or Gore is like saying a car thief is better than a serial killer!
The Bush family in their nearly 20 year control of the GOP almost killed it. The sad part is too many worship them as saints.
Iron Fist wrote:
OMG! I like so forgot!
If you all have not noticed, neither Bush nor McCain is running this time round
@ Rodan:
I don’t think anyone worse than Gore has been a major party nominee, ever. I’ve met the man, and he is not bright. But he thinks he is bright, and more importantly, he wants you to think he is bright…
GOP leadership seems like they are begging for votes to pass this “compromise”–ie it must be in trouble
Nevergiveup wrote:
That’s exactly what’s happenning.
If they wanted to pass this pile of crap, they should have done it last night.
Now that people have had time to read it, they’re running from it.
@ lobo91:
@ Nevergiveup:
@ Iron Fist:
There’s no cuts, not even decrease in spending.
Small spending cuts to have little economic impact
Nevergiveup wrote:
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Yeah baby! Future cuts? Riiiiiiight.
Iron Fist wrote:
He only got the nomination in 2000 because he’d spent the previous 8 years as Clinton’s VP. On his own, he wouldn’t have done any better in 2000 than he did in 1988 or 1992.
@ Iron Fist:
You met Gore? I feel sorry for you!
The Bush’s were about the money.
Kerry is a traitor and would have acted the part full.
That and he was deeper into the nut job 60′s radicals than Bill Ayers was.
Nevergiveup wrote:
yes, but their legacy and like minded peeps are.
the gop is at a crossroads in 2012…
bush, mccain, graham liberal wing of the gop
v
the young guns who tend to be more conservative.
the gop needs a cleansing fight, perhaps a hanged convention.
“You have to vote for it before your get to read it.”
Pelosi/Reid/DNC
coldwarrior wrote:
How about we just hang all the f’ing RINO’s. Traitors every damned one of them.
coldwarrior wrote:
We are also dealing with the same stupid electorate…
Nevergiveup wrote:
But their influences still linger.
taxfreekiller wrote:
Pelosi and Reid should be covered in honey and staked face down looking at each other over red ant hills in the fucking desert during summer.
Like that as you would say.
\\@ coldwarrior:
That would be great & it’s old timey politics.
Let the delgates fight it out & do multiple
votes.
The Republican seniority thing is not working
If the party leadership of the Republicans win this vote to hand $ trillions over to this commie union thug Obama, then that is the last straw.
All of them have to go, the RNC, all the state party leaders, all of the Senate and House leadership.
The sell out of We the People is not on the ok list ever.
We know what the commie Democrats are, that is bad enough, but to be back shot (fragged) by our on company comanders, that is person treason on all of U.S.. imnsho
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
Ahh there’s the rub!
personal treason@ taxfreekiller:
Nevergiveup wrote:
We want to prvent another Bush or McCain like GOP nominee.
@ doriangrey:
Hmmm, sounds a little vigilante ,don’t ya think?
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Yes, we are.
As they say, people vote their pocketbook. More precisely, they vote what they think is their pocketbook.
They won’t vote for someone who runs on actually making the painful cuts that are required today, over a candidate who tells them that everything’s fine. That person will ultimately cost them more in the long run, but they aren’t smart enough to see that.
RIX wrote:
I’m guessing you have never bother to read any of the writings of Thomas Jefferson.
@ Speranza:
Too many Republicans still have reverence for St. George.
The independents are leaving the D side in huge numbers, we need them inside the R tent for the next 8 years, they, we tea party and the base of the conservative votes can move the R party into the light away from its current incest with the commie Democrats.
The Old Two Party Evil Money Cult Must Die!
@ lobo91:
People rather be lied to.
Michele Bachmann just said that she’s voting “no.”
Rodan wrote:
He was treated miserably by the press and the popular culture but he was a good human being. Many people on the Right see him as a martyr.
@ Speranza:
Yup, that’s the reason.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
which is massively effected by voter turnout.
be glad every eligible american doesnt vote.
This is a very good article, spot on in many points, and though it will be read by some as a “chickens coming home to roost” sort of thing, the points are well taken. I didn’t know the story of Lars Gule and will pursue research on him. I only wish I could write this well. I couldn’t even take Leeden’s article apart with rambling like an idiot.
In addition to this, it’s important for people to remember the series of ties that exist between White Nationalism, Leftist ideology, and Islamism. Though the Left decries “racism” and prejudice, their ideology in many ways informs the groups they say the oppose. Not something you’ll ever hear discussed by the so-called “racial prejudice” watch dog groups, but it’s there. I have the beginnings of a dissertation addressing just this topic.
@ coldwarrior:
Amen
@ Speranza:
Toward the end he had the fighting style of a punching bag
A visualization of United States debt
Good humans make poor war time leaders.
Bush did not have the warior mind.
The U.S. got back stabed and the intent was our death.
Death to those who held the knife, made the knife, wrote the book of instructions on how to use the knife.
But not to be, “ROP” crap.
orthoi wrote:
you certainly do!
Coburn is a no, also.
“It’s like treating a patient who has pneumonia with Tylenol and cough suppressant and not giving them antibiotics to fight the infection.”
OT just got an email from Rachel McLuen
Denver Jury Commissioner’s Office
asking me to provide proof of my address in Australia so that I won’t have to do Jury duty in Denver.
I wonder how she got my personal email address? Mom must have given it to her but why didn’t she mention it? After 8 years of living abroad and filing taxes from here they still want an envelope with my address on it?!?
Rodan wrote:
Look, for all of his faults, the guy got us through a very difficult time, served honorably, and has more class in his little toe that the current occupant could ever hope to acquire in his lifetime. The man is out of office; quit beating him up.
Guggi wrote:
NICE!
great visuals there
Rodan wrote:
Have to give this as a point of reference. My sister-in-law is the ALGORE niece! She says he is NOTHING like the moron that he plays in the media. Her words, not mine……
Guggi wrote:
Obama ran as Carter in blackface, and by that standard he has been a smashing success.
@ Lost:
About 2 years ago, I got a letter in the mail from the federal district court in Albuquerque informing me that I had jury duty there.
It was sent directly to my Colorado Springs address, so they obviously knew that I lived in Colorado. It wasn’t forwarded or anything. And I’ve lived here since 2003.
I sent it back to them with a note telling them to look at the address, if they wanted proof that I lived in Colorado.
Kristy Noem is HOT!
@ lobo91:
Ok, so I shouldn’t be surprised.
But it’s been 8 years! 8 Tax returns! The local consulate staff and I are on first name basis! My government doesn’t know where I am? I suppose if they can lose $$$ so fast they can lose citizens too!
MacDuff wrote:
You noticed that too, huh?
@ Lost:
tell them you will be glad tro serve…provided they fund the flight, rental car, hotel , and meals.
taxfreekiller wrote:
Exactly! We needed a Cold Blooded Ruthless leader.
@ SciFiGuy:
Wow! SO you have ties with Gore.
@ coldwarrior:
HAHAHAHA!
And they might even say yes! How much debt does CO have? Can I get a free trip home out of this?
lobo91 wrote:
But she is also voting yes. But then again she does like guns also
@ MacDuff:
Sorry, Bush almost destroyed Conservatism. I have no use for him. Thanks to Bush, the floodgates of Islamic immigration was opened. Bush’s incompetance gave us Obama.
He maybe your saint, but he’s not mine.
@ Lost:
That’s just nuts!
I’m down to 4% battery, so I’m outta here. Later.
It is my not so humble opinion the bankers/buiders/commerical office building/shopping center owners/realtors/paving contractors/city/county/state goverments,,,, all of them are back behind the curtin;;;;;;on the R side.
On the Commie Democrat side union shop thugs are showing the D’s how the cement shoes fit the live Congress/Senate critters.
“We must have more TARP”.
doriangrey wrote:
I see nothing wrong with vigilantism when applied in the proper context.
AP accidentally tells the truth:
What’s really funny about this piece is that they worded it so that it would be reassuring to people who depend on government largesse and might think they were going to lose out.
@ MacDuff:
See you later and recharge that battery!
taxfreekiller wrote:
bankers and wall street biggies are firmly behind obama.
MacDuff wrote:
all ur electrons are belong to us!
@ lobo91:
They said the truth but not for good reasons.
coldwarrior wrote:
After we repel the 16th & 17th Amendments we have to take another look at the problems caused by the 19th Amendment.
@ doriangrey:
.
Bad guess. Hey isn’t he the guy who wrote
the Declaration of Indepedence?////
@ coldwarrior:
They always have been.
The whole “Wall Street backs Republicans” meme is probably second only to Satan convincing people that he doesn’t exist in its effectiveness…
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
According to Thomas Jefferson such action isnt vigilantism, it’s patriotism in the preservation of the Republic.
Rodan wrote:
Did I say he was a saint? Geez, I didn’t even insinuate that! I just think is counterproductive to kick around out of office presidents. What’s done is done and we have to deal with the here and now.
Later.
Also from AP
Jerusalem – In a dramatic policy shift, Israel’s prime minister has agreed to negotiate the borders of a Palestinian state based on the cease-fire line that marks off the West Bank, a TV station reported Monday.
Up to now, Benjamin Netanyahu has refused to spell out his plan for negotiating the border. A senior Israeli official would not confirm outright that the prime minister was now willing to adopt the cease-fire line as a starting point, but said Israel was willing to try new formulas to restart peace talks based on a proposal made by President Barack Obama.
I can’t believe it. Is there something in the water that polis are drinking?
@ Da_Beerfreak:
My comment was out of context. It has to do
with a facinating conversation a while back.
Um….3%……….
MacDuff wrote:
ahahahahahaha!!!!
GIVE us your electrons!
RIX wrote:
Ya, he is that old dead white guy, who also said,
“The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, & what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusetts? And can history produce an instance of rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it’s motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independent 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century & a half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it’s natural manure. Our Convention has been too much impressed by the insurrection of Massachusetts: and in the spur of the moment they are setting up a kite to keep the hen-yard in order. I hope in God this article will be rectified before the new constitution is accepted. — You ask me if any thing transpires here on the subject of S. America? Not a word. I know that there are combustible materials there, and that they wait the torch only. But this country probably will join the extinguishers. — The want of facts worth communicating to you has occasioned me to give a little loose to dissertation. We must be contented to amuse, when we cannot inform.”
@ doriangrey:
He also believed in the French Revolution
guillotines & all & French clubs in the
America.
You have a very interesting realationship with
the term vigilante. On the one hand you find it
where it does not exist an bash it, then other
hand you promote it.
coldwarrior wrote:
Dave?
MacDuff wrote:
Dave’s not here…
@ doriangrey:
Actually, I believe that jefferson was an entightened
genuis as were most if not all of the Founding
Fathers.
You just seem very situational about vigilantism.
RIX wrote:
The French Revolution was the American Revolution gone bad. It was the role model for the blood thirsty left-wing revolutions of the 20th century. Btw Jefferson was a lousy war time governor of Virginia and not a very good POTUS. The Louisiana Purchase fell into his lap.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
2001 a Cheech and Chong Odyssey?
1%………
Lost wrote:
I don’t believe any of that and I certainly do not trust the A.P.
MacDuff wrote:
close the pod bay doors, macduff.
MacDuff wrote:
Hey man, open the iPod bay door man…
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
waldensianspirit wrote:
He (Bush) took the “turn the other cheek” phrase way too literally.
Speranza wrote:
yeah, but he didnt have to have “EVERLAST” sewn into his forehead.
@ Speranza:
That is a great analysis. The French were blood thirsty
and things went really bad. Old scores were settled at
the guillotine.
Jefferson although a great man had his flaws. His
admiration for the French Revolution was one of them
Yep and this was in the paper today….on who is to blame…on this crisis with the budget…unbelievable….
///////I suppose we need to just eat our peas
http://cards6.wordpress.com/2011/07/31/we-the-american-voters-are-to-blame-for-washingtons-gridlock/
Heh, Hal the iPad didn’t know I had a spare laptop.
Beckel is at it again.
He’s decided that “Tea Terrorist party” is his favorite new term.
@ lobo91:
Isn’t that special? The “Tea Terroist Party”.
/who have car bombed or killed lately?
@ Lily:
PIMF *they* car bombed or killed lately?
RIX wrote:
Jefferson was an intellectual (in the best sense of the word), but had little acumen for the real world. His theories were spot on, but he had difficulty in actually being a manager when those theories were put into practice. He died a pauper from rebuilding his house a number of times to reflect his ever-changing architectural vision.
Lily wrote:
He’s just following his party’s lead:
Biden’s office refused to comment to Politico about what was said, citing that the meeting took place in a closed-door session.
The rhetoric wouldn’t be odd for the fiery former Senator from Delaware. As Politico notes, earlier in the day he told Senate Democrats that Republican leaders have “guns to their heads” in trying to negotiate deals.
The comments come as both sides of the aisle are upset about the proposed deal between Republican and Democratic leaders in both the House and Senate, and Biden was dispatched to try and rally support.
lobo91 wrote:
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Kind of juvenile isn’t he?
lobo91 wrote:
beckel is why i wont listen to or watch hannity.
CW, this one is for you!
Dear Rachel,
What a surprise to hear from you! I have been living abroad for years and haven’t had any queries from anyone. I put it down to good communication between different government facilities as I have filed taxes and am registered with the local consulate. Nevertheless, I can provide you with proof of address which should excuse me from jury duty.
If however, there is a dearth of jurors, I am happy to come home to serve on the condition that my flight, accommodation, car rental and meals are paid for by the responsible authority! Yes, I am joking but it is a deal I would consider.
I wish you a pleasant summer.
Kind regards,
What do you think this bureaucrats response will be? LOL!
Lost wrote:
b’cratic fools.
@ RIX:
They continually bastardize the language. Soon we will have no superlatives left. If the Right are Nazis and the Tea Party are Terrorists, what were followers of Hitler and the men who perpetrated 9/11? How does one distinguish between them?
Here’s the US version of that Norwegian socialist youth indoctrination camp:
someone explain to me how we’re supposed to keep a country together when this is what passes for thought on one side?
@ lobo91:
Biden. Is. So. Stupid.
@ lobo91:
Every President is a terrorist. Wow!
More likely they will post your DL #, SS # date of birth, mother and fathers famliy names, your finger prints on the internet for talking mean to them.@ Lost:
RIX wrote:
His governorship of Virginia was so poor that he was almost censured by the House of Burgesses. He also backstabbed his friend John Adams.
bet Honda is not happy about their sign back there behind this guy@ lobo91:
@ MacDuff:
It is really a totalitarian tactic to control the
meaning of language.
I have never seen the kind of astro-turfed outrage
used against the Tea Party before.
They are terrorists, Nazis, tea baggers, extremists,
blah , blah , blah. The vitriol and twisting of the
truth is really amazing.
I went to a Tea Party out of curiosity a couple of
years ago. They are not just like my neighbors, they
are my neighbors.
coldwarrior wrote:
Bob Beckel and Pat Buchanan (who appears way too often on Hannity’s show – and for some reason Hannity thinks Buchanan is a conservative) are my two reasons not to watch or listen.
Bob Beckel needs 8 weeks of Marine boot camp under Drill Sgt. E-7 Williams.
Then 16 weeks of Little Creek Va. swamp patrol.
MacDuff wrote:
I guess they would be Nazis and terrorists squared then.
Speranza wrote:
Nah…they’re “Freedom fighters.”
lobo91 wrote:
Every time some left-wing assmunch repeats the trite refrain “One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter,” I want to punch someone in the head.
lobo91 wrote:
“I’m just repeating what Howard Zinn said” At least he admitted it.
Founding Fathers = Howard Zinn, Noam Chompsky, Saul Alinsky, Malcolm
X.////
@ coldwarrior:
I have a response! Geez that was fast!
Dear Ms. ,
Thank you for your prompt reply containing proof of your address! You have been excused from Denver jury service.
I’m sure it was a surprise hearing from us; we get our jury pool every year and your record came from Denver Motor Vehicle Registration, an agency notorious for providing us with old records.
Thank you again and take care,
hahah! blame game!
Speranza wrote:
Or even punch myself in the head to realize I’m hearing this wheezebag philosophy.
Lost wrote:
LOL. Somebody was awake at the Ministry of Making Sh!t Up today.
@ Speranza:
That’s the natural result of indoctrinating a couple of generations with the idea of cultural relativism.
Ho Chi Minh = George Washington = Osama bin Laden to them.
Actually, Ho Chi Minh and bin Laden are superior to Washington, since they weren’t white capitalist slaveholders.
@ Lost:
I didn’t even get a response back from the court in Albuquerque.
@ yenta-fada:
Funniest was my mom’s reaction: Why don’t they believe me now, when they’ve believed me for the last 10 years!?!!?
@ lobo91:
The joys of email communication! A record response too, 5 minutes!
Lost wrote:
It’s Bush’s fault.
Lost wrote:
You threatened to cost them money. (and pointed out their stupidity very politely)
@ yenta-fada:
My cynic of a husband said: “just tell them your Jewish, they don’t want Jews on jury’s!”
/////in case anyone doesn’t get the joke.
Matt Damon calls for more taxes on the people who “get so much”:
“It’s criminal that like, you know, so little is asked of people who are getting so much.”
I agree. The nearly 50% who live off the work of the other half need to start paying taxes.
Okay, he wasn’t actually calling for the 40-some percent of the population who pay nothing to start aying their own way. He was actually talking about the people like him, who already pay the majority of the taxes:
Lost wrote:
That tells you how little that person actually does all day.
@ Lost:
You probably interrupted her Farmville session…
@ lobo91:
.
.
Like he did?
My uber-liberal friend in Boston asked ME what the Tea Party was. At least she was honest enough to admit that she had no clue. She is politically quite active. Someone like Matt Damon thinks he knows what he’s blabbing on about.
@ Lily:
They are waaay behind.
We need to start a “to do” list for them. /
Congratulations to Alabama for joining the select club of states that are being directly attacked by our own government!
lobo91 wrote:
Trust you to put your finger on the barely throbbing pulse of government. lol
lobo91 wrote:
ROTFLOL!!!
next time I’ll start my email with: “Sorry for interrupting your farmville session…
Off to work. Have a great evening everyone! I won’t get to the LNT tonight. Keep it going without me!
RIX wrote:
Well, he made a movie (that nobody paid to see) about the evil illegal Iraq war, so that counts. He did his part, just like John Wayne and Ronald Reagan did in WWII!
///////////
@ lobo91:
My mother used to say “Money doesn’t care who it goes to.”
later, mockers.
God…Pelosi’s speaking on the House floor right now, claiming that the public really wants them to waste tens of billions of dollars, and that people are terrified that they might actually cut spending.
There really is a point where there’s no option besides violence to deal with these people…
@ lobo91:
Matt Damon should just stick to acting.
The guy is a good actor.
But when he is off script, politically
pontificating , he sounds like the intellectual
soul mate of Meghan McCain.
lobo91 wrote:
Yeah they just enslaved everyone.
New Thread!
lobo91 wrote:
Matt Damon, and all the other limo-libs who are wailing for more taxes, should step up to the plate and send in some bigger checks to the Treasury, above and beyond what their high dollar CPA’s tell them to send in. It could be the start of a huge movement. Think of the millions of adoring fans who would do the same. Could be the answer to our debt problems. //
//
@ buzzsawmonkey:
If the Tea Party are hobbits, then John McCain is Saruman.
HawBITS! HawBITS! HawBITS! HawBITS! HawBITS!
Speranza wrote:
Minor detail.
Obama declares victory over Tea Party Terrorist Hobbits:
[...] Blogmocracy: Something is Rotten in the Kingdom of Norway [...]
[...] Blogmocracy: Something is Rotten in the Kingdom of Norway [...]
Nevergiveup wrote:
His FACTS were correct. The problems were with his methods.
taxfreekiller wrote:
Or maybe R. Lee Ermey!
lobo91 wrote:
That’s the way I see things are going.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
I’m really starting to think that 2012 has about a 50-50 chance of being the last election we have, at least under our current system.