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Guest post by: Bumr50!
On Saturday August, 13 2011 The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review published a story in the lead slot of their City & Region Section entitled ‘Study about Islam enters curriculums.’
What followed was an explanation of how the curriculum came about, and a laundry-list of characters that are involved in the public school system here in Western Pennsylvania and across the state that represent what I can only assume to be exemplary of the culture of Muslim apologism running rampant among administration and faculty.
Study about Islam enters curriculums
In the 10 years since 9/11, teachers have taken instruction on Islam’s history and impact from brief references in some Western Pennsylvania classrooms to extensive overviews.
“If we want our students to solve future problems, they must have a strong understanding of world religions,” said Doug Kirchner, social studies curriculum leader at Upper St. Clair High School.
With the school year set to start in a few weeks, several schools are adding classes or revamping curriculum to give students a more in-depth look at world religions, including Islam.
For the first time next spring, Upper St. Clair will offer a class called Asian and Middle Eastern studies that will provide a detailed analysis of Islam. Students at the high school first study Islam as freshmen in world geography.
“The course is run almost like a current events class,” Kirchner said. “Students begin to see how politics, economics and culture can be intertwined.”
And so, in the ninth grade (ages 13-14), these students will be provided a foundation of the Islamic culture in the context of ‘World Geography.’ The subject of ‘World Geography’ has been part of PA public school curriculum at least since I was in the 9th grade in 1992. The class is useless on so many levels, the most obvious being that it’s so broad that the curriculum is almost entirely up to the instructor what to actually cover in nine months.
To introduce Islam and make it a mandatory part of the curriculum almost guarantees that these kids will be presented with the standard leftist academic talking points, and be tested on them.
More follows:
The 9/11 hijackers were Islamic terrorists, but educators said they are taking care not to stereotype the faith.
Teachers at Sewickley Academy attempt to “depoliticize” the subject of Islam by focusing on its history in classes like world religion at the senior school and East Asian Studies at the middle school, said Claudia Gallant, assistant head of school for academic affairs.
“We give kids an accurate portrayal of the many different belief systems around the world,” Gallant said.
The school conducts assemblies acknowledging certain holidays including Ramadan, the Islamic month of fasting when Muslims avoid eating and drinking during daylight hours. This year, Ramadan began Aug. 1 and will run through Aug. 29.
So, how does one present the facts objectively, and yet “not stereotype.”
Who determines what an “accurate portrayal” consists of? Why is a “portrayal” even necessary?
And even at the expensive and highly regarded PRIVATE institution, Sewickley Academy, an effort is being made to “DEPOLITICIZE” Islam.
Islam by it’s very nature cannot be “depoliticized,” as it is not simply a religion, it is a way of life. In fact, I’d be hard pressed to find a more evil word than “depoliticize” when it comes to the agenda of these apologists. It is simply code for ” dhimmitude.”
We continue:
Students at Greensburg Salem High School first learn about Islam in grade six when they start to study the Crusades as part of an international studies unit.
“It’s brand new to them,” said Bob Lehman, social studies teacher at Greensburg Salem. “They have a foundation with Christianity and Judaism, but we don’t really have a Muslim population here to the extent that they would know.”
They revisit the topic in 11th grade world history in a unit focusing on the world’s five largest religions: Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism and Hinduism. This year, Greensburg Salem is starting an international studies class.
There is no state requirement that determines when students should start studying about 9/11.
And so, Islam today is to be taught in relation to the Crusades centuries ago at ages 10-11. Gotcha.
“Curriculum decisions are made at the local level. However, with the impact that Sept. 11 had on our nation, school districts across Pennsylvania have incorporated it into their lessons,” said Tim Eller, spokesman for the state Department of Education.
Lehman said before 9/11, the topic of Islam had never been mentioned in Greensburg Salem’s U.S. history classes. The event forced educators to increase teaching of current events.
“Before that, we were struggling to get to the 1980s,” Lehman said.
Upper St. Clair eighth-graders study the roots of the war on terror in social studies classes, “so most students come into the high school with an ability to separate fact from fiction,” Kirchner said.
And so, in classrooms where you struggled to bring the students current within 30 years, you are now going to inject a socio-political movement.
Separating “fact” from “fiction”?
What “fiction” are these administrators and instructors attempting to avoid? Why the concern?
In Pittsburgh Public Schools, 9/11 did not make its way into curriculum until this coming school year, said Michael Dreger, social studies curriculum coordinator.
Officials are developing lesson plans pertaining to the attacks that will be taught in some upper-level elective classes and will focus on the events leading up to the attacks and the effects. Dreger said the lessons will not focus on the terrorists.
“There are radical groups within Islam, there are radical groups within Christianity,” he said. “We don’t want to focus on the negative aspects of one religion.”
“Not focus on terrorists”?!
I thought 9/11 was the reason for introducing the curriculum in the first place!
How will they portray Islam without portraying the “radical groups” in the context of 9/11?
Courtesy of this moron, the mask slips a bit here as he brings up the fact that there are “radical groups” within Christianity as well, and that their intention is NOT to place Islam in a realistic context in relation to current events including 9/11. It is to equate Islam with Christianity and to emphasize that “they are no different from us.
Moein Khawaja, executive director of the Philadelphia branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said when teaching religion, schools should cover basic beliefs and history.
Talking about the small percentage of Muslims who are extremists is best saved for advanced politics and history classes, he said. He points to the terrorist attacks in Norway executed by Anders Behring Breivik, who identifies himself as a Christian.
“An in-depth discussion of him during a basic lesson on Christianity would be inappropriate,” he said. “They should learn about it in the proper context.”
Read it all here: Study about Islam enters curriculums
Kudos to the writer for wrapping up the article with the string that binds it all together – CAIR.
Anders Behring Breivik vs. Millions of unnamed, shrouded militants all over the world.
See? They’re not so different.
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I would encourage anyone reading this to take a more active role in their public school curriculum. Ask your smart-mouth teenager to show you their lesson plans – not just their books.
-Bumr50
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If that were honestly presented, there is no way that the suicide bombings and murder and mayhem that accompanies Islam around the world could be presented in a positive light. That isn’t, though, what appears to be being done here.
Islam should be practiced only in Hell. Oh wait a minute, it already is….
There is a reason kids have parents ya know.
@ Nevergiveup:
Unfortunately, many, if not most, parents abdicate the responsibility for teaching everything to the public school system. That is partly because the people of parenting age were themselves raised in an all-encompasing school system that was busily aggregating all of this responsibility to itself, and thus were taught that it was the school’s place to
teachindoctrinate the children in all things. I don’t know how we break that cycle, but it must be broken. I look at what has happened in Wisconsin with the Public Unions as a small start on what needs to be done.$2.2 million for Secret Service’s new armored buses
The Secret Service has revealed to Talking Points Memo that the government has purchased two armored buses for use by President Barack Obama and Republican candidates in the 2012 presidential campaign and beyond.
Well we’re only in debt for 14 trillion of so, so what’s another 2-3 million
When reading through this I was waiting for it…and of course, there it was:
The false, moral equivalent argument, on its presumably required silver platter. You just cannot discuss the murder and mayhem of Islam without discussing the proselyting of Christianity in journalism; I guess. But the blatant falsehood of this statement still continues to shock me in the way it compares an international violent imperialism to a quiet yet effective advocacy group within the Democratic process.
No, all extremists are not created equal. I’ll take a thousand Christian extremists over 1 murderous Muslims one anyday – thank you.
Iron Fist wrote:
Well parents have to get their heads out of their asses and besides teaching their children well, show up at their local schools and bitch and moan.
@ WrathofG-d:
Moral equivalency is gonna kill us all.
@ WrathofG-d:
You can always say “No” to the Christians. I’ve never heard of a Christian cutting off someone’s head while chanting “Christ is Greatest!” in Latin…
@ WrathofG-d:
Yea, watch out for the Amish and Mennonites! Rough extremists
Oh, and so much for the so-called separation of church and state I guess.
@ Nevergiveup:
That is the intention. While many of these people are “Useful Idiot” level drones, the leaders have no illusions about what they are enabling. They just believe that they will be able to turn the Jihad to their ends in the end. The Jihad mostly goes along with them, content to kill the useful kaffirs later…
Nevergiveup wrote:
Cuz everyone needs an ATM?
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Ducks and runs for cover…….
@ citizen_q:
It is the Leftist’s Creed: Everybody Needs Somebody to Sponge From…
WrathofG-d wrote:
That is what I was thinking. Along with the comment ““depoliticize” the subject of Islam by focusing on its history”, which is exactly what they are trying to do.
citizen_q wrote:
Ain’t that the truth
Speaking of sponging, check this shit out, from Merry Old England:
They are Mohammedan, of course. England kisses Islam’s ass…
citizen_q wrote:
The “History” –ya mean like Mohammad taking a child bride and conversion by the sword? Lovely history
@ Nevergiveup:
@ Iron Fist:
@ waldensianspirit:
There, obviously, is no follow-up questions in print, but I would love to know which “Christian extremists” he is referring to.
We use nice names like “moral equivalency” but the reality is that this is nothing less than forced ignorance. We choose to accept falsehoods for the sake of not ruffling feathers. In what will probably sound cliche, we are literally losing our grip on reality but doing so purposefully, and knowingly. We accept what is being told to us (by the guise of P.C.) so as if not to be fooled by our own lying eyes.
It is this ignorance that allows us to become numb to the truth, and incapable of responding to actual threats. It is this ignorance that allows others to convince us that building homes is equal to blowing up children, and that suggesting that one accept Jesus, is equal to legalizing the rape of women, and murdering 3,000 innocent civilians in cold blood.
It truly is double speak; war is peace, terrorism is protests, Sharia is feminism, imprisonment is freedom.
@ Iron Fist:
@ Nevergiveup:
@ Nevergiveup:
@ citizen_q:
@ waldensianspirit:
@ WrathofG-d:
They will teach Islam is good and a force for Liberation. Anyone who was conquered by Islam deserved it. Islam invented everything and Arabs are the master race.
That’s what these kids were learning. That’s what they taught me about Islam when I was in HS. Of-course, I was raise to hate it and being rebellious, I took the opposite view of what I was taught.
This Pro-Islamic crap needs to be purged from schools. The truth that Islam is a genocidal totalitarian ideology is what kids should be taught.
@ Nevergiveup:
Not to mention the Arab extermination of Greek speakers in Syria or Latin speakers in North Africa in the 7th Century.
What I found interesting about the article was that the schools mentioned run the full gamut.
Pittsburgh Public Schools are relatively poor, with a few exceptions.
Upper St. Clair is a medium to high income public district.
Sewickley Academy’ll cost you 22K a year to send your kid there.
@ Iron Fist:
Soamlis are the global elite’s favorite pets.
@ Iron Fist:
Maybe these leftist leaders will take the Shahada and control the Jihad!
@ Iron Fist:
Not yet!
@ Rodan:
I’ve noticed this. Somolia is the worst hole on the planet. Let’s import the people and the culture from there!
@ Iron Fist:
Unemployed refugee demands more royal accommodations.
Never put me in power. I’d return the arrogant ingrate back to his home country. If I was in a good mood that day it might not be from a C130 at 10,000 feet.
@ Rodan:
A friend of mine was taught in College that “Islam is the most feminist monotheistic religion out there.”
I sent that individual back into class the next day with a backpack full of Koranic quotes regarding women.
I don’t mind they teach Islam, and I don’t think (unlike others it seems) that Islam is 100% bad. But if you are going to teach anything, teach the TRUTH, P.C. and political agendas be dammed. There is good in Islam, and that should be taught (if teaching religion at all), but you cannot ignore the violent, sexist, antisemitic, and replacement theology aspects of Islam either.
@ WrathofG-d:
The history of Islamic aggression should be taught as well. The fact it’s genocidal racist creed needs to be pointed out.
Nevergiveup wrote:
That will be conviently left out since it reflects badly on islam. All the nasty facts about them invading the Levant, northern africa and Spain will also be left out. Can let anything that makes it look bad will be said.
Now the crusades and the inquisition… and the Salem witch trials… those nasty Christians have to exposed.
@ Iron Fist:
They are ta the forefront of many scientific achievments!
OT – Romney has referred to Obama’s bus tour throughout America as the “Magical Misery Tour.”
@ MikeA:
Actually they don’t leave out the invasion of Spain. They teach the Arab conquest and near genocide of the Spaniards was good for humanity.
Speranza wrote:
Good term!
Speranza wrote:
On the 2.2 million dollar bus
@ WrathofG-d:
They will lie about easily verifiable things. For example, I am certain that Tim McVeigh is one of the “Christian Extremists” they would point to. Problem being, he was an avowed agnostic who claimed that science was his religion, not a Christian.
WrathofG-d wrote:
Islam is theocratic Nazism. What, therefore, good is there in it?
@ Rodan:
Funny how my last name is a derivation of an arab word. In the long term, where a person was born or what their background is matters not. What they do and think NOW is what matters.
Of course the muzzies have been fighting and killing since the start so they need to be stopped… permenently
Nevergiveup wrote:
Yes, the wholesale murder performed in the name of islam is glossed over. Dhimmitude is ignored. I’ll bet they don’t discuss the status of art or music under the thrall of sharia either.
@ Iron Fist:
There is a lot of good in the Koran regarding orphans, and charity.
As well, there is this (presuming it is true):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_contributions_to_Medieval_Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
@ Iron Fist:
Same with the Norwegian A-hole. he had zero christian background expect for some culture thing. He was a Norwegian nationalist.
@ 40 WrathofG-d: Didn’t islam create more than its share of orphans by killing parents?
@ WrathofG-d:
The Hitler Youth was a vibrant youth movement where you would see the children of peasants and the children of barons treated as equals. That doesn’t make it any less evil. Likewise Islam. That their every waking moment for all believers isn’t dedicated to the persuit of evil makes them human, rather than demonic. But their creed is as evil as any ever espoused by man.
@ WrathofG-d:
Keep in mind that a lot of the “discovery” was from conquered peoples who converted to islam under pain of death. Once islam was installed, they atrophied since islam does not allow for questioning the world since that would be questioning the demon allah.
@ WrathofG-d:
That’s all cpropaganda. Those Islamic contributions have been debunked. Most of the West’s knowledge was already in monosteries and they got it from the Byzantines (East Roman).
The Arabs conquered parts of the Byzantine and Persian Empires. They are going to have some advanced stuff. They never developed it, hence they fell backward.
There was no Islamic golden age.
@ orangecrush:
See Jannissaries
@ MikeA:
Exactly!
@ orangecrush:
@ MikeA:
They also took any woman they pleased, married or not. They would just kill the husbands.
Nevergiveup wrote:
He is surveying the damage he has done and singing “You ain’t seen nothing yet”.
@ Iron Fist:
The Nazis believed in taking care of the poor and sick. They also built highways (autobahns).
That doesn’t excuse their evil, the same way it doesn’t excuse Islamic genocides.
This seems like a fitting thread for a quick visit from the “non-politicized” Islamic world
Howdy from Kuwait!
As Matthew Broderick says in Biloxi Blues, “It’s not just hot here. It’s Africa hot.”
@ orangecrush:
@ Iron Fist:
@ MikeA:
Well our discussion is exactly my point. I cannot, and do not disagree with practically all of what you have each said. I simply want (if any teaching is being done at all on this subject) that they show the whole picture – not just the whitewashed one.
I’m not defending Islam as a whole, nor condemning it as a whole. I want the curriculum to do the same.
@ lobo91:
You are kinda next door to Africa, which is kinda like being next door to hell…
(Hope you had a good trip)
@ WrathofG-d:
They should explain Islam was spread by genocide and conquests.
@ Rodan:
And is as totalitarian and imperial as the worst European powers. Combined!
Rodan wrote:
Yes! Of course where true!
I am only advocating for truth, the whole truth, not just the whitewashed nonsense that I personally had to deal with as described above.
-on a similar note, when reading through the Koran, and some other books on the subject yesterday, I restudied the treatment of women in Islam. Yikes!
@ WrathofG-d:
not disagreeing with you. The problem is it will be white washed. there is always some good from anyone. Mussolini made the trains run on time after all!!!
@ lobo91:
Its ALIVE!!!!
Look at the bright side… its a dry heat!!!
Actually, maybe you all could help me.
I am helping a friend who is looking for reliable sources regarding Sharia. Specifically where it conflicts with major liberal ideas (sexism, racism, rape, etc.)
lobo91 wrote:
Keep the faith baby!
U.S.: Israeli construction in Ariel ‘deeply troubling’
White House joins Palestinian criticism of Israel’s plan to construct 277 homes in the West Bank settlement of Ariel.
Those damn Israeli Carpenters
Rodan wrote:
Reminds me of those useful idiots who try to humanize hamass or hizbal’alah by claiming they build schools (probably madrassas to spread more of their hate), or other community work.
@ WrathofG-d:
My biggest source is the MFM itself. The reported stonings, beheadings, the seggregation and subjucation of women, the near 100% ethnic/religious cleansing of the core Islamic States, etc. are all easily discernable from everyday sources if you are simply looking for it. Each isolated incident is bad enough, but when you take them as a whole, and you listen to the defenses and justifications from the Mainstream Islamic groups themselves, the pattern is unmistakable. I’m talking about what groups like CAIR say, not al Qaeda (though there is little enough difference, if you have your eyes open to see).
@ Nevergiveup:
Don’t worry, Matt Damon will save us!
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Egypt judge bans live broadcast of Mubarak trial
Trial of former Egypt President Hosni Mubarak and sons adjourned until September 5 to allow them to be tried with ex-interior minister Habib el-Adly and six ministry officials.
Let me translate this for ya: Mubarak is a hot potato for the new regime ( which is much like the old regime) and they are just waiting for him to conveniently die or be suicided.
One of the most radical ‘Christian’ groups I can think of is the Westboro Baptist ‘Church’, and as nutty as they are, you can safely ignore them, or even tell them to eff off, and I don’t expect them to pull out knives and start sawing away at your neck. Sure, they’re nasty, vile & hateful, and I’d love to see them shut the hell up & go away, but they’re not a threat to life & limb.
@ lobo91:
Take care, stay safe.
@ Nevergiveup:
Crucify them!
(I couldn’t resist!)
I saw this coming. Almost made a post about it when I saw Israel approved a few new houses. The Palestinians shell Israel on a near daily basis, but building a few houses is the true threat to peace! If I were the Israelis, I’d give them what they’ve been asking for. Pull back all of the settlements, back to the ’67 borders, all of it. Then I’d shell the motherfuckers unmercifully and unrestrictedly every time there was a peep from the Palis. Sooner or later the Palis would wise up or you’d run out of them. I could really care less which.
Rodan wrote:
If he runs then I want my candidate running too
WrathofG-d wrote:
You should be asking this of Philip Daniel, dude is like your one stop shopping spot for all things Islamic.
citizen_q wrote:
If I avoid being killed by a Kuwaiti driver, I’ll be fine.
That’s the main threat here. ITT has had three serious incidents in the last 10 days (1 death and 2 hospitalizations), all from traffic accidents.
@ lobo91:
“Drive like a Kuwaiti” has a specific meaning eh
Iron Fist wrote:
It pretty much fell into the “any flight you can walk away from is a good one” category. The 777 is a pretty nice plane.
But not for 12 1/2 hours.
lobo91 wrote:
Reminds of the “kimchee” cab drivers in South Kroea. Had several close calls, all as a pedestrian. Thank G-d I was thinner back then, and able to doorways to escape to.
@ lobo91:
Is there a “Chiefs”/Sergeants Club you can hang out at?
lobo91 wrote:
Nice to see you made it there in one piece.
Well, I just stopped in for a minute. I need to get to bed.
This was the first chance I’ve had to check stuff online, since I had to scare up an adapter for my laptop’s power supply. It runs on 220 without a transformer, but they use British style outlets here.
I’ll check in later.
Nevergiveup wrote:
I doubt it. I’ll be staying in one of the northern suburbs of Kuwait City and commuting to work on post.
Were’d everyone go?
Speranza wrote:
I don’t care for Romney, but I had to chuckle when I read that earlier today. Good one, Mitt!
@ Speranza:
Have you seen those things? $1.3 million apiece, and the Secret Service purchased two – one is “for the Republicans.”
@ lobo91:
Waving to Lobo!
Carolina Girl wrote:
Someone should take their credit cards away from them
WrathofG-d wrote:
I think Islam is 100% bad. But I don’t think all the people born into it are 100% bad. They can’t leave it. They can’t go on dates. Women are 1/2 the worth of a man. They born into slavery.
lobo91 wrote:
Hey lobo! You are able to post from Kuwait???
Lily wrote:
They even have internet ( euphermistically called the “HaqieNet”) in Afganistan
@ lobo91:
Well, glad to see you made it there in one piece. You didn’t bring adaptors? Oh dear. I keep them permanently in my computer bags and suitcases.
If you’re in a north Kuwait City suburb, I am of no further use – I was in a south suburb, halfway to the KOC compound.
@ Mike C.:
Last week in Iowa, I think we got an excellent preview with Romney’s speech as to how the left is going to play it. Obama will, of course, play to hand-picked crowds. There will be MSM airplay of the TEA Party and other groups with their hand lettered signs decrying Obamanomics and the dictatorial concepts of this man; only Obama in his rolled up shirt sleeves, a la Juan Peron, mingling with the “common man” paid to be there and cheer for him.
…meanwhile, back at the campaign stops of the eeeeeevil wignutters, Moveon and other Soros backed assholes will get themselves to the front of the audience in any speech by a GOP contender, screaming about Social Security, Medicare, entitlements, and further economic terrorism by the TEA Party and their hatred of all that is good and pure in the world. And of course, guess where those MSM microphones are going to be???
mfhorn wrote:
And actually they are just made up of family memebers….all Christian’s rebuke them. They are a very small lunatic fringe.
/more of a cult than anything else. I doubt they have even 50 memebers and if they do they are family.
@ Lily:
Of course he can post from Kuwait. Back when, I used to post on LGF from Kuwait.
Nevergiveup wrote:
Well I knew there would be internet…but lobo had said he wasn’t sure if he would be able to post…
Mike C. wrote:
I knew you posted from around the world. You are back in the states now aren’t you?
@ Carolina Girl:
OOOOpps…Sleep deprivation alert…first paragraph should read “There will be no MSM airplay of the TEA Party and other groups…”
Lily wrote:
depends on some of the local “security and censorship” rules and on what sites they might block. It is not uniform across the whole Military
Nevergiveup wrote:
Not to mention the soft racism of lowering expectations for Muslims. They are speshul. Don’t touch the burkha. smack!
Just sent to me from Fox News:
This is complete bullshit. I want to see and hear from them, not the narcissist in chief who will make the day all about him and how he GOT bin Ladin.
Carolina Girl wrote:
Yeah I saw that. I think that is bullshit also. Certainly they could invite a representative group.
Rodan wrote:
lobo91 wrote:
Glad you arrived safely. We, like, totally miss you!
@ Carolina Girl:
Why in the hell are the first responders not being invited??????
This must bho thanking them. Honestly he is going to be there but he doesn’t want the first responders there???? Who is going to be taking up all the room???? He is using the 10th anniversary of 9/11 as a political stunt? Really???
@ Nevergiveup:
Due to their description of Ariel as a “West Bank Settlement”, it is quite obvious that neither The White House or the so-called “Palestinians” have actually ever been there.
Both can kiss my yiddisha touchas.
@ Lily:
Of course he is – this is going to be all about him. I have no doubt that he will mention no fewer than 10 times and Osama was killed on his watch. Hasn’t he already asked both Bush and Clinton to attend and both of them turned him down? Obama should preside over ceremonies at the Pentagon. I’d rather see Rudy at Ground Zero.
I hope when word of this gets out the outrage is expressed all over this country!!!!
Carolina Girl wrote:
Actually I think President Bush will be there
@ Lily:
Been working Brazil, but normally from here in Houston, for a mind-boggling 3.5 years now. My previous record length contract (in Caracas) was 14 months, and I’ve blown that one all away now. The odd trip to Brazil now and then, but nothing like actually working there. I expect I might have to run down there again late September/October or so.
@ Carolina Girl:
I know I’m outraged!
@ Mike C.:
Be careful traveling….. I thought you said you were in Houston…
Lily wrote:
I would like this to blow back on Barry, bigtime. Maybe New Yorkers (besides the NYT) will continue to notice that Ozero holds no respect for them whatsoever, and how he is using this tragedy is throwupable.
Carolina Girl wrote:
Wouldn’t imam owe-bummer be more at home at a troofer gathering? He and van jones.
@ Nevergiveup:
Yep Bush will be there….
http://www.politickerny.com/2011/07/29/obama-and-gw-bush-to-attend-911-anniversary-in-nyc/
@ Nevergiveup:
He’s going to be in a private apartment – he can get anything the Kuwaiti government allows over the internet, and they don’t block much.
citizen_q wrote:
Yes, indeed. The U.S. and the Jooooos are the source of all the problems in the world.///
@ yenta-fada:
Actually I hope it blows back on him BIG TIME!!!!
Mike C. wrote:
OK. The Military is so weird. I can get my AOL mail on some Gov computers but not on others. I can get it at the Sub Base in Groton but not in Parris Island SC.
@ Lily:
100% on target- the Phelps cult/clan is just that- ‘Wacky’ Fred & his wife, kids, their spouse & kids. I’ve witnessed several of their ‘protests’ there in Topeka. I think the 50 or so number you mentioned is pretty close. I don’t know if it’s better to ignore them, or throw their lunacy back in their faces, along with some ice-water balloons at Christmas time.
@ lobo91:
I’m surprised you didn’t use BFEgypt as a reference….
Lily wrote:
Or course we all know where they will ALL end up….right Dorian!
global warming
New Zealand’s North Island sees first snow fall in 40 years
A cold blast from the Antarctic has brought snow to New Zealand’s capital city of Wellington for the first time in 40 years.
@ Iron Fist:
I understand the emotional, “pull back and smash the enemy” response but, I imagine that stems from a drastic misunderstanding of what a “settlement” is; especially when it comes to neighborhoods like Ariel (or the former Jewish neighborhood of Gush Katif).
Ariel is a measly 40km (25 miles – less than 1 hour drive) just East of Tel Aviv and just above Jerusalem, and when on the ground mostly indistinguishable from those other major cities.
It boasts the largest University in Israel -which for Israel is saying something, and has a population of approximately 20,000 people and an additional 10,000 students. Unlike as is stereotyped of so-called “settlements” only approximately a small 10-20% of the residents of Ariel are religious. As well the city is made up a diverse population that includes new immigrants and students.
The citizens of Ariel (like all other post-1967 Jewish communities) are real people. The city is home to over thirteen synagogues of different denominations, a Hesder yeshiva, youth groups, a daycare, pre-schools, 4 elementary schools, 3 junior highs, and a comprehensive high school. Additionally, Ariel maintains a first-class hotel with many local tourist attractions for both Jewish and Christian audiences, and thriving municipal, educational and commercial services. Lastly, Ariel’s Community and Cultural Center offers dozens of extracurricular leisure and cultural activities for residents of all ages. This includes assorted sports, creative and performing arts programs, youth entertainment groups, concerts, competitions, theater, a Municipal library and clubs for the elderly. As of 2008, they had planned to build a Center for the Performing Arts, a Major Park facility with a water element, a Youth Leadership Adventure Park and a Sports Recreation Complex.
In theory, the “move & smash the enemy” gut feeling might make sense but in reality it would be a tragedy of historic proportions. (even without taking into consideration the disgusting Antisemtism of the concept)
The total estimated Jewish population of Judea & Samaria is 500,000. (IIRC) So that would mean the complete destruction of any one city in the U.S. except for the top 34.
See population list for U.S. cities.
@ coldwarrior:
Wow!!! Isn’t weather something? It actually changes!
/has obamma lowered the ocean yet?
Lily wrote:
I would LOVE it if, in light of this announcement, President Bush said “well, since it would be more important to honor the first responders than for me to attend, I’ll withdraw to make room for them.”
Macker wrote:
ROTFLMAO… That is soooo an episode begging to be written…
Carolina Girl wrote:
Yes that would be awesome. Actually him being there right next to b might make some obamabots heads explode and will just plain make the ones who voted against him (bho) pissed that first responders were not invited. Bush could give a shout out to the first responders and something about them not being invited…
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-15/starbucks-schultz-urges-fellow-ceos-to-boycott-campaign-giving.html
Cut off the money flow to DC campaign.
@ Lily:
Or Bush could say he’d rather attend the “separate event” for them.
I remember him climbing over and taking the bullhorn and the crowd saying “we’re gonna get ‘em, aren’t we George!?” “You’re goin’ after ‘em, right George?” And the “George” wasn’t said with disrespect. It was one of us pleading to another of us – no President and electorate – just Americans.
Carolina Girl wrote:
Actually that would be a great idea. For him to go to the ‘separate event’!! All I can say is more Americans need to know that the first responders aren’t invited. Does bho think he is making room for those who get a tingle up their leg when he speaks???? That is the only reason why I think he would not want them there and of course probably those first responders probably didn’t vote for him.
I tell you what this president has actually no class at all! Excatly how many people has he offended at this point in time? I am including our allies Heads of States too.
Lily wrote:
fascinating, no?
@ Lily:
I think we should encourage President Bush to attend the “separate event!” I may send this to Rush and Levin and ask that they entertain the idea and get their listeners to sound off!
I was re-watching that video – can you even imagine Ojerkweed having that spontaneous “Well, I can hear YOU!” moment. I still can’t watch that video without tearing up.
Lily wrote:
i smell the dhimmie mayor’s vile hand in this
Nevergiveup wrote:
Oh, corporations do that all the time. Hotmail, Yahoo mail, AOL – they block them all as “chat.” PDO/Shell in Muscat, Oman blocked them, but only from 8 AM to about 5:30 PM. Outside of those hours you could get them. I can’t get my Hotmail in the office here. Unless, of course, I fire up my laptop with the broadband wireless modem, which I do sometimes.
Carolina Girl wrote:
CG …. I can’t imagine him talking without his teleprompter to be honest! Personally I don’t think he would of gone to N.Y. because it would not be safe….I would imagine him waiting a good two weeks before he went there!
coldwarrior wrote:
Oh indeed!!!!
WrathofG-d wrote:
Yes as the Koran is responsible for making tons of orphans. What is it with fundamentalists who have this residual affection for Islam? Maybe they just like totalitarian regimes with a religious veneer.
coldwarrior wrote:
@ Lily:
We’re going to a massive commemoration at the Pleasanton Fairgrounds. Flyboy and I will be wearing our FDNY shirts.
Meanwhile, only the bravest among us dare play the Obummer 9/11 drinking game — a shot every time he uses the personal pronoun. For the lightweights, a shot every time he mentions Osama bin Laden.
Speranza wrote:
Ah shucks, are you trying to say I’m a “fundamentalist”?
Carolina Girl wrote:
Good heavens….I think doing shots to both could induce alcohol poisioning!
@ WrathofG-d:
Abu Wrathen, or mabye Wrathama Bin Laden, Saddam Wrathein, Mahmoud Wrathaminijad…
hmmmm so many choices.
@ lobo91:
Sounds like they need to issue you with your own personal tank for transport. And a squeegee.
@ doriangrey:
And Fred Phelps eternal punishment is a foregone conclusion, eh?
Lily wrote:
Before the speech is halfway through!
Even if I could imbibe that much at one sitting, which is impossible, I couldn’t afford to pay for that much alcohol!
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