The Florida executive director of CAIR recently sent a letter to Congressman Allen West (R-Kick-Ass) requesting that Mr. West disassociate himself from several individuals that CAIR considers to be “anti-islamic”. The Congressman promptly replied with a one word response; “NUTS”. This incident is delightful on several levels. First, it’s another reminder that Allen West is the real deal and there’s not a PC bone in his soldier’s body. Second, the reaction by the stupid press who (A) had no understanding of the one word reply and (B) would actually admit it in writing and on video. Even the people interviewed on the street were clueless as to the meaning of “NUTS”, which is arguably the most storied one word kiss-off in the history of kiss-offs. Now in all fairness, I’ve got to give the muzz a pass on their ignorance as I wouldn’t expect your run-of-the-mill mooselimb to have any knowledge of the Americans’ heroic stand at Bastogne during WWII.
Hamze says he wrote to the Republican Congressman earlier this month with his concerns about the Congressman’s relationships with groups and people Hamze considers to be anti-Islamic.
“When I first saw that, I wasn’t sure if he was calling me nuts, or he was calling my concerns nuts,” said Hamze.
Constituents in West’s district 22 are just now reading the letter.
“It doesn’t look too professional to me. It doesn’t look thought out,” said one constituent named Chuck.
Simone Oliver, another district 22 constituent thinks it’s fine, but says it needs a little more.
“Maybe another sentence, explaining,” she said.
West has not fully explained his position, but in other letters to CAIR Florida, he has said he is neither anti-Islamic nor anti-Muslim.
Then CBS4 News discovered that during World War II, General Anthony McAuliffe famously wrote a one-word letter to the Germans in response to a surrender ultimatum. The word used: “Nuts!”
Read the whole thing here and be sure to watch the vid: Rep. West’s Response to CAIR: “NUTS!”
Hat tip to Weasel Zippers
Tags: Allen West
As General Patton said in response to the McCauliffe answer, “a man that eloquent must be saved!” It is a shame that history is not taught in our schools anymore. For some reason, we collectively got the hair brained idea that diversity training should somehow be substituted for history.
@ Flyovercountry:
Another new low for lame stream media. You would think that at least 1 person in the entire CBS affiliate in Miami would have “discovered” this historical gem sometime prior to August, 2011. It’s only been in about 10 movies and scores of books. Where are the adults?
Good for Congressman West!
An answer that is both as complete as it needs to be, and that gives due respect to his Army roots. Perfect!
Has any one ever noticed that the very existence of CAIR, “Council on American-Islamic Relations” is a tacit admission that islam is un-American? I mean if being a muslim was as American as apple pie, why would muslims feel the need of a group to mediate between them and America?
@ Flyovercountry:
My Grandfather was at Bastogne. He was 101st.
@ Rodan:
Salute!
@ Flyovercountry:
If people are ignorant of history, they are easier to convince of thing that are a-historic. The Left wants to create a total a-History that never really happened, but are the things that should have happened. That is what they teach in schools these days.
The The 101st, the Battling Bastards of Bastone as they were affectionately known. Shame that many in the media or the general public especially the progs, do not understand the profound meaning of the response NUTS. Thank you to your Grandfather, my brother and every one who fought in WW ll.
@ Buffalobob:
@ huckfunn:
Thanks!
Rodan wrote:
Have any pics of your dad in uniform at Bastogne?
@ Rodan:
Truly a story of great heroism, from top to bottom. Fast forward to today, when our current Commander in Chief states that he does not believe in victory in the classic sense. Pure sophistry from the very definition of a leftard.
@ Nevergiveup:
Yes I believe so. I have to look through my Grandpa’s photo albums. I will do it next time I’m at my parents.
He died in May so its tough looking at the photos.
@ Nevergiveup:
@ Flyovercountry:
It’s not BS some of the stuff you heard about Bastogne.Itw as really horrible and they were low on supplies.
Rodan wrote:
Grand dad I mean. You should find one and them show him here. you can pull my Dad’s pic from FB of him on Iwo Jima. I bet we could have alot of people show their dads/granddads in the Wars
I admit that I too did not know the history of this reply. But now that I do, I too have a one word reply:
BRILLIANT!
WrathofG-d wrote:
Really? How old are you and where did you grow up?
@ Nevergiveup:
What a great idea. I have nothing to offer, but would love to see others and hear the stories.
@ WrathofG-d:
Seconded!!
hey ya’ll
you guys seen this yet?
I think poor tfk is gonna have a stroke
Shock Poll: Perry Has Double Digit Lead Over Romney, 29% To 18%, Bachmann Third At 13%…
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Republican Primary voters, taken Monday night, finds Perry with 29% support. Romney, the former Massachusetts governor who ran unsuccessfully for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008, earns 18% of the vote, while Bachmann, the Minnesota congresswoman who won the high-profile Ames Straw Poll in Iowa on Saturday, picks up 13%.
Texas Congressman Ron Paul, who was a close second to Bachmann on Saturday, has the support of nine percent (9%) of Likely Primary Voters, followed by Georgia businessman Herman Cain at six percent (6%) and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich with five percent (5%). Rick Santorum, former U.S. senator from Pennsylvania, and ex-Utah Governor Jon Huntsman each get one percent (1%) support, while Michigan Congressman Thaddeus McCotter comes in statistically at zero.
Nevergiveup wrote:
No kidding, I can remember, well actually no I cant actually remember the first time I heard about Gen. McAuliffe famous reply, it seems like something I have always known. I’m pretty sure it was back in the stone ages when I was still just a small kid.
re allen west
this man needs to be in the senate
rain of lead wrote:
Check the top headline thread.
doriangrey wrote:
And of course it is in many of the movies also
rain of lead wrote:
No, that man needs to be Sarah Palins VP.
@ doriangrey:
IIRC, I read about it in a WWII comic book that my grandmother had left over from when my uncle was a kid. Back then (pre-1960s) they didn’t have a problem with portraying American soldiers as the hero type.
@ huckfunn:
D’oh!
I guess I need to pay more attention to those whith all the breaking
news nowadays
“NUTS!” Revisited
An Interview with Lt. General Harry W. O. Kinnard
On December 16, 1944, the Germans launched their largest offensive of the war on the Western Front. The primary goals of the offensive were to capture the Belgian port of Antwerp and to drive a wedge between the British and American armies. This offensive is often referred to as the “Battle of the Bulge.” It’s failure was due largely to American resistance around St. Vith, on the northern shoulder of the Bulge, and by American forces holding Bastogne on the southern shoulder of the Bulge.
The town of Bastogne is strategically located at the center of the road network of the Ardennes. The Germans referred to it as a “road octopus” since the majority of roads in that region of the Ardennes pass through the town. The town’s strategic location made it vitally important to the outcome of the offensive. The Allies realized its importance and General Eisenhower dispatched the 101st Airborne Division to hold the town at all costs. This victory resulted in the first full Army Division Presidential Distinguished Unit Citation. This interview focuses on the story surrounding the German’s request for the American forces at Bastogne to surrender and the American General’s response as witnessed by Lt. General Harry Kinnard, at the time of the siege of Bastogne, a Lt. Col. and Division G-3. These are some of his personal recollections.
We got into Bastogne late on the night of 18 December, 1944. We were not well equipped, having just gotten out of combat in Holland. We were particularly short of winter clothing and footwear. On the 21st of December we became completely surrounded by Germans and our field hospital was overrun by a German attack. We had put the hospital in what would normally have been a safe place, but no place is safe when you are completely surrounded. At this time, we were not able to receive air resupply because the weather was absolutely frightful. It was very, very cold and snowy. Visibility was often measured in yards. Our lack of winter gear was partially offset by the citizens of Bastogne who gave us blankets and white linens that we used for camouflage.
While we were still surrounded, on the morning of December 22, a German surrender party, consisting of two officers and two NCOs, and carrying a white flag, approached our perimeter in the area of our Glider Regiment, the 327th. The party was taken to a nearby platoon command post. While the enlisted men were detained the officers were blind folded and taken to the command post of the 327th where they presented their surrender ultimatum. The ultimatum in essence said the 101st’s position was hopeless and that if we elected not to surrender a lot of bad things would happen.
The message was brought in to the Division Headquarters by Major Alvin Jones, the S-3, and Colonel Harper, the Regimental Commander. They brought the message to me, the G-3 and Paul Danahy, the G-2. My first reaction was that this was a German ruse, designed to get our men out of their fox holes. But be that as it might, we agreed that we needed to take the message up the line. We took it first to the acting Chief of Staff of the Division, Lt. Col. Ned Moore. With him, we took the message to the acting Division Commander General Tony McAuliffe. Moore told General McAuliffe that we had a German surrender ultimatum. The General’s first reaction was that the Germans wanted to surrender to us. Col. Moore quickly disabused him of that notion and explained that the German’s demanded our surrender. When McAuliffe heard that he laughed and said: “Us surrender? Aw, nuts!” the date was December 22nd, 1944
To the U.S.A. Commander of the encircled town of Bastogne.
The fortune of war is changing. This time the U.S.A. forces in and near Bastogne have been encircled by strong German armored units. More German armored units have crossed the river Our near Ortheuville, have taken Marche and reached St. Hubert by passing through Hompre-Sibret-Tillet. Libramont is in German hands.
There is only one possibility to save the encircled U.S.A. troops from total annihilation: that is the honorable surrender of the encircled town. In order to think it over a term of two hours will be granted beginning with the presentation of this note.
If this proposal should be rejected one German Artillery Corps and six heavy A. A. Battalions are ready to annihilate the U.S.A. troops in and near Bastogne. The order for firing will be given immediately after this two hours’ term.
All the serious civilian losses caused by this artillery fire would not correspond with the well known American humanity.
The German Commander.
But then McAuliffe realized that some sort of reply was in order. He pondered for a few minutes and then told the staff, “Well I don’t know what to tell them.” He then asked the staff what they thought, and I spoke up, saying, “That first remark of yours would be hard to beat.” McAuliffe said, “What do you mean?” I answered, “Sir, you said ‘Nuts’.” All members of the staff enthusiastically agreed, and McAuliffe decided to send that one word, “Nuts!” back to the Germans. McAuliffe then wrote down: “To the German Commander, “Nuts!” The American Commander.”
McAuliffe then asked Col. Harper to deliver the message to the Germans. Harper took the typed message back to the company command post where the two German officers were detained. Harper then told the Germans that he had the American commanders reply. The German captain then asked, “Is it written or verbal?” Harper responded that it was written and added, “I will place it in your hand.”
General Anthony McAuliffe
taken on December 27th, 1944
The German major then asked, “Is the reply negative or affirmative? If it is the latter I will negotiate further.”
At this time the Germans were acting in an arrogant and patronizing manner and Harper, who was starting to lose his temper, responded, “The reply is decidedly not affirmative.” He then added that, “If you continue your foolish attack your losses will be tremendous.”
Harper then put the German officers in a jeep and took them back to where the German enlisted men were detained. He then said to the German captain, “If you don’t know what ‘Nuts’ means, in plain English it is the same as ‘Go to Hell’. And I’ll tell you something else, if you continue to attack we will kill every goddam German that tries to break into this city.”
The German major and captain saluted very stiffly. The captain said, “We will kill many Americans. This is war.” Harper then responded, “On your way Bud,” he then said, “and good luck to you.” Harper later told me he always regretted wishing them good luck.
Sources:
Interview with General Harry O. Kinnard by Patrick O’Donnell
Rendezvous with Destiny,Rapport & Northwood
The Battered Bastards of Bastogne, George Koskimaki.
Photo through Kenneth McAuliffe
@ rain of lead:
Just read about this a few minutes ago myself.
Very nice!
What a great patriot!
@ doriangrey:
well yeah, as long as we are dreaming
but until she does announce (pleasepleaseplease) it’s just a dream
@ Nevergiveup:
Good idea!
That’s what I will do. Post it on FB. I’ll be back to my parents house in 2 weeks, so I’ll grab it and scan it.
Flyovercountry wrote:
There is a great depiction of that scene in the movie “Battlegroud” starring James Whitimore, Van Johnson and James Arness. One of my favorite war films.
The left seem to revel in their nearly perfect ignorance of American history.
I suppose that’s why they give their savior a pass over the claim his uncle liberated Auschwitz.
He is basically telling them they will not dictate that he can’t represent all the people of his district
@ doriangrey:
WWII wasn’t ancient history to people our age, though.
My high school algebra teacher had been a B-17 pilot.
@ Crusader Rabbit:
It’s pretty amazing that the CBS people came out and admitted their ignorance like that.
hey ya’ll
I will have an update on momcat later tonite but for now there is no good news
she is still in the ICU,still on o2, still can’t breath on her own
the nurse said xrays showed a slight improvment
in the pneumonia
I will know more when I see her this evening
@ Crusader Rabbit:
That is what I meant by them teaching a-history that is what they want it to be. They want people as ignorant of history as they can possibly be so that they can make it up as they go along.
lobo91 wrote:
Admitting that they didn’t know was just about as stupid as not knowing about. No one in the entire newsroom. Pathetic.
@ doriangrey:
Me too. It really hit home when I watched Band of Brothers for the first time, but yes, have always “known”
@ waldensianspirit:
He’s telling them a lot more than that. He is stating that he recognizes the fact that we are in a war with Islam and more specifically the brand of Islam as practiced by CAIR, and he is further stating that he refuses to surrender. By the way, why is CAIR allowed to continue operating in this country. They are already labeled as unindicted co-conspirators in the holyland terror financing case.
@ huckfunn:
They are practically uneducated. These people are products not just of our public education system, but of our Universities. That is how pathetic our education system has become.
@ lobo91:
Nice to see your travel was safe
@ rain of lead:
Give her all our best and yinz all hang in there
Iron Fist wrote:
This is the inevitable result of a newsroom full of journalism majors.
They don’t actually know anything, but they can sure write about it…
CBS4′s google foo is weak too:
“US military Nuts!”
gets you the answer at first hit
@ lobo91:
There is a certain minimal level of basic understanding that having a university degree should confer. This would come in as part of that, as World War II was cataclysmic and important and recent, as historical things go. It isn’t just journalism majors. A collection of engineers probably wouldn’t do any better. It is an indicator of how badly our so-called education system does the job that we spend billions on every year.
@ Nevergiveup:
My GRamps is burried at Calverton out in Riverhead, NY. That’s a veteran’s cemetary.
@ NoThreat2U:
I haven’t been run over yet.
Although it’s past my bedtime.
Night.
Iron Fist wrote:
The prime examples would be the Ivy League elites that are driving this country over the cliff.
@ waldensianspirit:
If they didn’t know that the word “nuts” is an historical reference in this context, they wouldn’t have known to search for it.
No one on their staff thought to ask, “What could ‘nuts’ mean in this situation?”
@ Flyovercountry:
@ huckfunn:
@ Iron Fist:
Check my headline, Rove is now attacking Perry.
@ Iron Fist:
Most universities don’t even require a US history course anymore.
@ lobo91:
I saw you posted about the drivers over there. Go get some rest. Goodnite
@ Rodan:
Rove is being a jerk, but it’s helpful in a way.
Obama is already accusing Perry of being Bush and he’s going to do this regardless of how Perry feels about Bush.
This spat shows Americans that Obama is lying.
lobo91 wrote:
What makes it all the more damning to me, is that I’ve known the story of Bastogne since I was 12, and not by any means because it was taught to me in school. It most certainly was not. At that point in my schooling we were getting a really fractured and incomprehensible account of the Renaissance.
What must these journalists have been doing around age 12 that never involved reading anything? How many of them have the excuse that they were dyslexic? (HAH, no free pass for them on that one. I WAS.)
They didn’t learn this in College? Course not. Journalism school is just an uninterrupted multi-year drinking-binge.
Nevertheless the arrogance of these ignorami is boundless. Witness: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/07/20/msnbc_to_gop_congressman_do_you_have_a_degree_in_economics.html
What is it about having a journalism degree that makes Miss Brewer or any of the other media clowns believe they are experts on any topic anywhere? It’s as if their arrogance is directly proportional to their ignorance.
I suppose surprise isn’t warranted here, but really, wtf were they doing at that age? Hitting themselves on the heads with river-rocks?
@ Eliana:
I can’t stand Rove.
@ 1 Flyovercountry: Odd that people wouldn’t know that. I was just reading about it yesterday in a wwII history book. Pretty famous part of the war. And as said it’s been in a lot of movies. Sheltered, candy fed progs ripe for the Marxist idiot label
@ orangecrush:
@ lobo91:
Many on the Left have revised WWI to make it into a SOviet victory. They downplay the US role.
Right now, Gen. McAuliffe is smiling down from Heaven!
Rodan wrote:
I think you mean WW2 right?
@ Nevergiveup:
Yes WWII.
When I go to leftist blogs they talk about the sacrifices of the Soviets. They even claim we opened the Western front after all the hard work the Soviets did.
It’s utter BS.
huckfunn wrote:
I find it unbelieveably insane that even the media didn’t know what ‘Nuts’ meant! Good grief ….ever heard of ‘The Battle of the Bulge’?????
Well they can start here with this excellent book….
http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Dimmed-Tide-Battle-Fought-Library/dp/0440215749/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1313525581&sr=1-1
Rodan wrote:
That’s insane …. if they didn’t have our help…with lend-lease they would have probably lost that horrible blood-soaked battle, ‘The Battle of Stalingrad’. Ignorance annoys me…… if you don’t know just say you don’t know, but don’t profess to know something about something you know NOTHING about!
Society: The rot inside.
Interesting article, not much to mention really…until the last paragraph.
“I hope more discerning parents than us might think twice about Swift tickets. Better to have to explain the explicit sexuality of someone like Gaga and her “Born this Way” message than to have to undo the message of female powerlessness — especially from an artist who is so fervently emulated by girls. If you have tickets already, perhaps you can prep your music lover. It’s sort of like a game of I Spy: look hard and look deeply for Swift’s voice. It’s there, just buried in the fluff.”
@ Lily:
Not so sure about that. The Soviets suffered great losses during WW2, especially the early years. I am sure lend lease help but they did a herculian job producing their own home grown tanks and planes. However they also put themselves in a horrible position by being friendly with the Nazis in the 1030s.
@ Nevergiveup:
You mean the German Kingdom was friendly with Kievan Rus?
In all seriousness, The Soviets and Nazis were freindly becasue they were anti-Capitalist and 2 forms of the same Socialist monster.
From the article above:
““[If I could say something to him now,] I’d tell him to grow up! To act like a congressman and engage in dialogue, and to stop the school boy insults,” said Hamze.”
So says the spoiled, whiny, schoolboy laying on his back in the middle of the room kicking his feet, and pounding his fists on the ground, crying to his mommy and anyone that will listen that that big meany Congressman West won’t do what he says.
Hamze, you got your answer and your dialogue; the answer is “NUTS”
@ Nevergiveup:
Actually lend-lease helped them. One thing they were very short of was ammo and food and guns. Especially during the Battle of Stalingrad. Since the fall of the Soviet Union more light has been shed on our help…the tide didn’t turn until we helped in those areas. Not to mention Stalin himself gave very little praise towards our help….in fact he down-played it. Maybe why it is ingrained they did it on their own. They didn’t.
http://www.amazon.com/Stalingrad-Fateful-1942-1943-Antony-Beevor/dp/0140284583/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1313526393&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Enemy-at-Gates-Battle-Stalingrad/dp/1568523688/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1313526595&sr=1-2
Two excellent books that high-light that fact.
@ Lily:
The Germans would have defeated the Soviets one on one.
Lily wrote:
‘nuts’
‘then we will fight in the shade’
‘veni vidi vici’
and so on….
this stuff isnt trivia to be discovered, it is who we are, it is to be known. the press has shown themselves to be fools yet again
@ Lily:
I never said lend lease did not help them. But the fact is we do not have denigrate the Soviet sacrifices and victories to make our sacrifices and victories look better. They both stand on their own as a great testimony to both the USA and the Soviet Union.
@ Rodan:
Most especially since the Soviet strategy during the beginning phase of the German Offensive was to simply retreat without putting up much of a resistance. Retreat until winter, and then let them have a dose of that. It was an effective strategy, except for the fact that the Germans were no strangers to cold weather themselves. The soviets were as much beneficiaries of Hitler’s meddling in the battle plans as anything else. Had the Germans simply taken the oil fields, and not pressed on to the North, not worried about taking everything, as Rommel had suggested, the Soviets might have had a much harder time in ridding themselves of the German army.
Flyovercountry wrote:
I’m not so sure retreat was a soviet strategy. They were getting their asses handed to them. What did save them however was the great strategic depth of Soviet Russia which allowed them to recover, marshall their assest, reorganize and attack
@ coldwarrior:
In English….we came, we saw, we kicked their asses.
Nevergiveup wrote:
Slandering the Soviets? Is that what you got? Yes many soviets died many…not trying to make us look better. Really? I don’t know what to say other than I was simply stating something of record.
The Soviet Union got their revenge on the Germans. I’m just not getting you here nevergiveup……there wasn’t a slur implied.
coldwarrior wrote:
That’s what struck me… they “discovered” it, like maybe they’re due an award or something. Schmucks.
coldwarrior wrote:
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
@ Crusader Rabbit:
exactly
Lend-lease helped the Russians a lot. Over 150,000 Studebaker US6 trucks alone, plus countless other vehicles and aircraft.
The “Stalin Organ” katyusha rocket launcher was usually mounted on a US6 truck chassis.
@ huckfunn:
@ Crusader Rabbit:
even if these are not known in the proper historical sense they are something that every red blooded american male should understand on a gut level early in life and then understand the historical aspects afterward as he has a chance to read history.
that first school yard fight with the bully is, to that young man, the battle of thermopylae.
@ coldwarrior:
I would maintain these concepts were universal and enduring, however leftists habitually offer themselves as counter-examples of what separates man from beast.
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