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Empathy gets tossed under the Obama bus

by Speranza ( 188 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama at August 21st, 2011 - 5:00 pm

Arthur Schlesinger (the court historian for JFK) once referred to Richard Nixon’s administration as “The Imperial Presidency” and coming from a  guy who worshiped at the feet of the Kennedy’s I always thought  that was the height of political hypocrisy. Nobody however can beat Barack and Mooch for the trappings of royalty. One of the reasons I believe Obama’s numbers are tanking is that he really does not have the common touch and connection with the average American. He seems aloof, distant, arrogant and standoffish to other people’s daily concerns.

by Mark Steyn

Rick Perry, governor of Texas, has only been in the presidential race for 20 minutes, but he’s already delivered one of the best lines in the campaign:

“I’ll work every day to try to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your life as I can.”

This will be grand news to Schylar Capo, eleven years old, of Virginia, who made the mistake of rescuing a woodpecker from the jaws of a cat and nursing him back to health for a couple of days, and for her pains, was visited by a federal Fish & Wildlife gauleiter (with accompanying state troopers) who charged her with illegal transportation of a protected species and issued her a $535 fine. If the federal child-abuser has that much time on his hands, he should have charged the cat, who was illegally transporting the protected species from his gullet to his intestine.

So eleven-year-old Schylar and other middle-schoolers targeted by the micro-regulatory superstate might well appreciate Governor Perry’s pledge. But you never know, it might just catch on with the broader population, too.

Bill Clinton thought otherwise. “I got tickled by watching Governor Perry,” said the former president. “And he’s saying, ‘Oh, I’m going to Washington to make sure that the federal government stays as far away from you as possible — while I ride on Air Force One and that Marine One helicopter and go to Camp David and travel around the world and have a good time.’ I mean, this is crazy.”

This is the best argument the supposedly smartest operator in the Democratic party can muster? If Bill Clinton wants to make the increasingly and revoltingly unrepublican lifestyle of the American president a campaign issue, Governor Perry should call his bluff. If I understand correctly the justification advanced by spokesgropers for the Transport Security Administration, the reason they poke around the genitalia of three-year-old girls and make wheelchair-bound nonagenarians in the final stages of multiple sclerosis remove their diapers in public is that by doing so they have made commercial air travel the most secure environment in the United States. In that case, why can’t the president fly commercial?

[......]

Queen Margrethe of Denmark flies commercial, too. For local trips she has a small Challenger jet. When she’s not zipping around in it, they use it for fishery enforcement off Greenland. Does that detail alone suggest that a thousand-year dynasty dating back to King Gorm the Sleepy (regnant 936–958) travels in rather less luxury than the supposed citizen-executive of a so-called republic of limited government? Undoubtedly King Gorm the Sleepy would have slept a lot better on Air Force One, yet the Danish royal family seems to get by.

Symbols are important. In other circumstances, the Obamas’ vacation on Martha’s Vineyard might not be terribly relevant. But this is a president who blames his dead-parrot economy on “bad luck” — specifically, the Arab Spring and the Japanese tsunami: As Harry S. Truman would have said, the buck stops at that big hole in the ground that’s just opened up over in Japan. Let us take these whiny excuses at face value and accept for the sake of argument that Obama’s Recovery Summer would now be going gangbusters had not the Libyan rebels seized Benghazi and sent the economy into a tailspin. Did no one in the smartest administration in history think this might be the time for the president to share in some of the “bad luck” and forgo an ostentatious vacation in the exclusive playground of the rich? When you’re the presiding genius of the Brokest Nation in History, enjoying the lifestyle of the super-rich while allegedly in “public service” sends a strikingly Latin American message. Underlining the point, the president then decided to pass among his suffering people by touring small town Minnesota in an armored Canadian bus accompanied by a 40-car motorcade. In some of these one-stoplight burgs, the president’s escort had more vehicles than the municipality he was graciously blessing with his presence.

[......]

Where was I? Oh, yes. Instead of demonstrating the common touch — that Obama is feeling your pain Clinton-style — the motorcade tour seemed an ingenious parody of what (in Victor Davis Hanson’s words) “a wealthy person would do if he wanted to act ‘real’ for a bit” — in the way that swanky Park Avenue types 80 years ago liked to go slumming up in Harlem. Why exactly does the president need a 40-car escort to drive past his subjects in Dead Moose Junction? It doesn’t communicate strength, but only waste, and decadence. Are these vehicles filled with “aides” working round the clock on his super-secret magic plan to “create” “jobs” that King Barack the Growth-Slayer is planning to lay before Congress in the fall or winter, spring, whatever? If the argument is that the president cannot travel without that level of security, I note that Prince William and his lovely bride did not require a 40-car motorcade on their recent visit to Los Angeles, and there are at least as many people on the planet who want a piece of Wills and Kate as do of Obama. Like the president, the couple made do with Canuck transportation, but in their case they flew in and out on a Royal Canadian Air Force transport described as “no more luxurious than a good motor home”: The shower is the size of a pay phone. It did not seem to diminish Her Royal Highness’s glamour.

I wish Governor Perry well in his stated goal of banishing Washington to the periphery of Americans’ lives. One way he could set the tone is by forgoing much of the waste and excess that attends the imperial presidency. Believe it or not, many presidents and prime ministers manage to get by with only a 14-car or even a four-car motorcade. I know: Hard to imagine, but there it is. A post-prosperity America that has dug itself into a multi-trillion-dollar hole will eventually have to stop digging. When it does so, the government of the United States will have to learn to do more with less. A good place to start would be restoring the lifestyle of the president to something Calvin Coolidge might recognize.

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  1. Lily
    1 | August 21, 2011 5:17 pm

    Well it is very evident that this president is completely out of touch with average Americans. Completely!
    As far as what Bill Clinton said, how in the world does he know how Rick Perry will govern and know he will be taking a lot of vacations?
    Oh wait maybe he confused Rick Perry with Bho. Because this president is on a constant vacation and when he is not, he is whining, whining and whining. Those rich people, greed, bad luck, Japan tsunami, Arab Spring (which he basically started and endorses), and what about Libya and Syria…I’m sure he will bring those too in the mix soon as cause of his problems! Oh wait I forgot Foxnews and the ‘evil’ Republicans.

    This is not going well….I foresee Muslim Brotherhood here soon..
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/21/explosions-rock-tripoli-amid-reports-rebel-advances-in-capital-116547133/

    And this is getting even worse…yeah they are really afraid of bho/not!!!!
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/08/21/syrias-assad-to-address-us-european-demands-for-ouster/


  2. waldensianspirit
    2 | August 21, 2011 5:33 pm


  3. coldwarrior
    3 | August 21, 2011 5:35 pm

    “Queen Margrethe of Denmark flies commercial, too. For local trips she has a small Challenger jet. When she’s not zipping around in it, they use it for fishery enforcement off Greenland. Does that detail alone suggest that a thousand-year dynasty dating back to King Gorm the Sleepy (regnant 936–958) travels in rather less luxury than the supposed citizen-executive of a so-called republic of limited government? Undoubtedly King Gorm the Sleepy would have slept a lot better on Air Force One, yet the Danish royal family seems to get by.”

    honestly, this comparison of these cats to the president is foolish.

    potus is far more powerful and far more busy than the danish royal family. besides air force 1 is as much a symbol of power as it is a necessity for the chief executive…the most powerful man in the world.

    that said, obama and family are being ghetto fabulous with these record sized motorcades and constant trips.


  4. waldensianspirit
    4 | August 21, 2011 5:38 pm

    2008


  5. waldensianspirit
    5 | August 21, 2011 5:40 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yea Michelle doesn’t like to fly on the same plane with him


  6. coldwarrior
    6 | August 21, 2011 5:45 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yea Michelle doesn’t like to fly on the same plane with him

    that’s a personal issue there..and something a gop candidate could take them to task over


  7. Prebanned
    7 | August 21, 2011 5:48 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:
    I guess Jessie explained to Obama that they both would be out of a job unless the poor were kept poor.


  8. yenta-fada
    8 | August 21, 2011 5:50 pm

    This kind of behavior in a ‘merely mortal’ president would have people demonstrating in the streets. Or, failing that, a critical op-ed in the New York Times & Washington Post.


  9. Nevergiveup
    9 | August 21, 2011 5:52 pm

    Ya know there have always been rumors that Gadaffi’s mother was Jewish. So maybe he can escape to Israel and claim right of return. Stranger things have happened. Well I think stranger things have happened?


  10. yenta-fada
    10 | August 21, 2011 5:53 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    @ waldensianspirit:
    I guess Jessie explained to Obama that they both would be out of a job unless the poor were kept poor.

    Barely Zero’s view of the world is simple. There’s him, and then there’s not-him. That’s all you need to know to understand Chief empty suit. Mark Steyn has great phrases; ‘dead parrot economy’. Lifeboat humor guy.


  11. Eliana
    11 | August 21, 2011 5:59 pm

    Did no one in the smartest administration in history think this might be the time for the president to share in some of the “bad luck” and forgo an ostentatious vacation in the exclusive playground of the rich? When you’re the presiding genius of the Brokest Nation in History, enjoying the lifestyle of the super-rich while allegedly in “public service” sends a strikingly Latin American message. Underlining the point, the president then decided to pass among his suffering people by touring small town Minnesota in an armored Canadian bus accompanied by a 40-car motorcade. In some of these one-stoplight burgs, the president’s escort had more vehicles than the municipality he was graciously blessing with his presence.

    Dropping into Middle America in a Pharaohic display of opulence worthy of the scene in “Cleopatra” where Elizabeth Taylor arrives in Rome via a parade of gold carriages is exactly how out of touch Obama is with the American people.

    He wants us to share the suffering but he can’t stop himself from flaunting his taxpayer funded opulent lifestyle in our faces.


  12. RIX
    12 | August 21, 2011 6:00 pm

    FNC is reporting that Libya is falling.
    Apparently the Jeffersonian Democrats are only
    two miles from the city center.
    They are also reporting that one of Khadafi’s
    sons has been captured & that another surrendered.
    ABC is rporting that Khadafi is now in Algeria.
    What could possibly go wromg here?/


  13. yenta-fada
    13 | August 21, 2011 6:00 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Ya know there have always been rumors that Gadaffi’s mother was Jewish. So maybe he can escape to Israel and claim right of return. Stranger things have happened. Well I think stranger things have happened?

    Indeed, stranger things are happening every day. 40 million or so Americans are on food stamps, U.S. treasury bills are paying, in effect, negative interest rates when you count inflation, and a No-name Kardashion has a wedding costing 10 million dollars. Greece, Italy, Portugal, and Spain can’t pay their bills and places that never had snow get it at odd times of year. Oh yes, no shortage of daily Strange.


  14. Eliana
    14 | August 21, 2011 6:04 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Ya know there have always been rumors that Gadaffi’s mother was Jewish. So maybe he can escape to Israel and claim right of return. Stranger things have happened.

    Nah. Even people who are halachically Jewish can be denied citizenship if they have gone against Israel and/or the Jewish people.


  15. coldwarrior
    15 | August 21, 2011 6:05 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    a lot of ‘strangeness’ can be attributed to instant communication.

    this crap has been going on for ever…we just happen to know about it know


  16. Nevergiveup
    16 | August 21, 2011 6:06 pm

    Eliana wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Ya know there have always been rumors that Gadaffi’s mother was Jewish. So maybe he can escape to Israel and claim right of return. Stranger things have happened.

    Nah. Even people who are halachically Jewish can be denied citizenship if they have gone against Israel and/or the Jewish people.

    Ya know I was joking right? Not about the Jewish part, but about him going to Israel


  17. waldensianspirit
    17 | August 21, 2011 6:06 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    If they don’t kill all of his children guess what happens in a few years from now


  18. RIX
    18 | August 21, 2011 6:08 pm

    BBC now reporting, Khadafi in Algeria.
    Do you think that, that clown vactioning
    on Marthas Vineyard will be on TV taking all
    of the credit?


  19. Nevergiveup
    19 | August 21, 2011 6:09 pm

    RIX wrote:

    BBC now reporting, Khadafi in Algeria.
    Do you think that, that clown vactioning
    on Marthas Vineyard will be on TV taking all
    of the credit?

    You can bet on it


  20. Eliana
    20 | August 21, 2011 6:10 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Yeah, I know. :-)


  21. Nevergiveup
    21 | August 21, 2011 6:11 pm

    Russia has put forward “proposals” to build new nuclear power plants in Iran after the completion of the Bushehr project, local media reported Sunday quoting the Islamic republic’s atomic chief.
    “We have held negotiations with the Russians regarding the construction of new nuclear power plants. They have put forward some proposals,” Fereydoon Abbasi Davani was quoted as saying by Resalat newspaper.

    Yeah obama is doing a grand job with that reset button and his “smart” diplomacy


  22. yenta-fada
    22 | August 21, 2011 6:11 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    a lot of ‘strangeness’ can be attributed to instant communication.
    this crap has been going on for ever…we just happen to know about it know

    That is a crucial factor, to be sure. I maintain that we are only starting to experience the levels of strange coming up. Only time will tell. I intend to carry on as close to ‘normal’ as I can.


  23. waldensianspirit
    23 | August 21, 2011 6:11 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    McCain too. The only two choices the American people had


  24. coldwarrior
    24 | August 21, 2011 6:12 pm

    RIX wrote:

    BBC now reporting, Khadafi in Algeria.
    Do you think that, that clown vactioning
    on Marthas Vineyard will be on TV taking all
    of the credit?

    this is a great victory for BP and the french oil concerns!


  25. yenta-fada
    25 | August 21, 2011 6:14 pm

    RIX wrote:

    BBC now reporting, Khadafi in Algeria.
    Do you think that, that clown vactioning
    on Marthas Vineyard will be on TV taking all
    of the credit?

    I’m not seeing Ozero’s face from the Vineyard on the news. Must be lobster hour.


  26. yenta-fada
    26 | August 21, 2011 6:15 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    BBC now reporting, Khadafi in Algeria.
    Do you think that, that clown vactioning
    on Marthas Vineyard will be on TV taking all
    of the credit?
    this is a great victory for BP and the french oil concerns!

    Where’s Khaddafi’s gold!/


  27. RIX
    27 | August 21, 2011 6:15 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    this is a great victory for BP and the french oil concerns!

    That is the fact of the matter.


  28. Prebanned
    28 | August 21, 2011 6:15 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    U.S. treasury bills are paying, in effect, negative interest rates when you count inflation

    Obama is fixing our entitlement obligations by giving no increases and 30% inflation.
    Hey its a 30% cut!
    Not the way I would do it. I would fix our taxes, grow the economy and put everybody to work, but I am a bitter clinger.


  29. Prebanned
    29 | August 21, 2011 6:18 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    We should have a base in Georgia.


  30. Da_Beerfreak
    30 | August 21, 2011 6:19 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    BBC now reporting, Khadafi in Algeria.
    Do you think that, that clown vactioning
    on Marthas Vineyard will be on TV taking all
    of the credit?

    this is a great victory for BP and the french oil concerns!

    Not if the Chicom oil companies cut the EU & BP out of the deal… :twisted:


  31. yenta-fada
    31 | August 21, 2011 6:19 pm

    @ Prebanned:

    I haven’t seen you flying around much. You must be busy. Bring us some funny. :-)


  32. RIX
    32 | August 21, 2011 6:21 pm

    You know Momar has no redeeming qualities, but that’s
    not the point, we had him defanged.
    If this mob now moving into Tripoli procalim their
    loylty to al Queda or some other Jihadis organization,
    I guess that will just be an oops moment.


  33. coldwarrior
    34 | August 21, 2011 6:24 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    @ Prebanned:

    the spent fuel rods are returned to russia.

    and these arent breeder reactors.


  34. 35 | August 21, 2011 6:24 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Blood for the Blood God Oil!!!!!11ty!!


  35. chickadee
    36 | August 21, 2011 6:25 pm

    I think it is disgusting that zero, for his own political gain, went after Q’Daffy.

    Who does he have his sights set on next. Israel is on that list. And is his ultimate goal.

    zero and his handlers are evil scum.


  36. coldwarrior
    37 | August 21, 2011 6:25 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Not if the Chicom oil companies cut the EU & BP out of the deal… :twisted:

    BP wanted desperately to renegotiate their contract

    and french oil was facing half a billion dollars in fines.

    great victory for BP and french oil


  37. Prebanned
    38 | August 21, 2011 6:26 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    I have been busy.


  38. waldensianspirit
    39 | August 21, 2011 6:26 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    @ Prebanned:
    the spent fuel rods are returned to russia.
    and these arent breeder reactors.

    The ones you see


  39. RIX
    40 | August 21, 2011 6:28 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Blood for the Blood God Oil!!!!!11ty!!

    The Libs have screamed that almost all wars since
    Korea have been fought for oil.
    Now Obama has actully fought our first war for oil.
    You won’t hear a peep.


  40. 41 | August 21, 2011 6:28 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    2008

    From what I’m hearing from liberals, it’s cool now to hate Obozo. Hopenchange is soooo 2008.


  41. Prebanned
    42 | August 21, 2011 6:28 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    What happened to the bad old russians?


  42. coldwarrior
    43 | August 21, 2011 6:29 pm

    RIX wrote:

    You know Momar has no redeeming qualities

    sure he does!

    the outfits, the female bodyguards…his outfits….


  43. 44 | August 21, 2011 6:29 pm

    RIX wrote:

    BBC now reporting, Khadafi in Algeria.
    Do you think that, that clown vactioning
    on Marthas Vineyard will be on TV taking all
    of the credit?

    Yeah, he’ll probably suck up some ” credit”. The sad truth is, however, that post Kadafi Libya may well turn out to be a bigger he’ll hole than what’s there now. Egypt sure isn’t turning out to be the cradle of Arab democracy. The devil you know is always better than the devil you don’t, and that’s been my feeling from the beginning of this overblown “Arab spring”. The last thing countries like Libya and Syria need are vacuums to be filled by the Muslim Brotherhood.


  44. waldensianspirit
    45 | August 21, 2011 6:29 pm

    RIX wrote:

    he Libs have screamed that almost all wars since
    Korea have been fought for oil.
    Now Obama has actully fought our first war for oil.
    You won’t hear a peep.

    Weirod world!


  45. Da_Beerfreak
    46 | August 21, 2011 6:30 pm

    RIX wrote:

    You know Momar has no redeeming qualities, but that’s
    not the point, we had him defanged.
    If this mob now moving into Tripoli procalim their
    loylty to al Queda or some other Jihadis organization,
    I guess that will just be an oops moment.

    The Crazy Colonel of Libya has already earned a place in history by voluntarily giving up his nuclear program while Bush was President only to be stabbed in the back by Dirty Barry. This one act alone should prevent any other country in the world from ever giving up its own nuclear program voluntarily ever again. Only fools will trust the word of the West in the future thanks to Dirty Barry’s treachery…


  46. waldensianspirit
    47 | August 21, 2011 6:31 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    2008
    From what I’m hearing from liberals, it’s cool now to hate Obozo. Hopenchange is soooo 2008.

    Jesse might want his apology back.


  47. Prebanned
    48 | August 21, 2011 6:31 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    2008
    From what I’m hearing from liberals, it’s cool now to hate Obozo. Hopenchange is soooo 2008.

    Yeah, now the dems are complaining that whoever wins the Republican primary will be “too” conservative.


  48. coldwarrior
    49 | August 21, 2011 6:31 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ Nevergiveup:
    @ Prebanned:
    the spent fuel rods are returned to russia.
    and these arent breeder reactors.

    The ones you see

    really, you wanna cross putin like that?

    fact of the matter is that the russians are building these so that they have control over the material. look at a map. they dont want iran using nuke power to make bombs…then its boooom in chechnya.

    they can do it or the norks will be more than happy to. then where are the rods?


  49. RIX
    50 | August 21, 2011 6:32 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Weirod world!

    It really is.We finally actually fight a war for oil,
    but it is for BP & French oil.


  50. coldwarrior
    51 | August 21, 2011 6:33 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    The Crazy Colonel of Libya has already earned a place in history by voluntarily giving up his nuclear program while Bush was President only to be stabbed in the back by Dirty Barry. This one act alone should prevent any other country in the world from ever giving up its own nuclear program voluntarily ever again. Only fools will trust the word of the West in the future thanks to Dirty Barry’s treachery…

    and…

    ghadaffi was also the first muslim to call W after 9-11.

    he helped us kill al-Q.

    and we knifed him in the back


  51. Da_Beerfreak
    52 | August 21, 2011 6:33 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    @ Prebanned:
    the spent fuel rods are returned to russia.
    and these arent breeder reactors.

    I would rather have Iran buying their nuclear power equipment from Russia then North Korea any day, but that’s just me.


  52. 53 | August 21, 2011 6:34 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Obama is destined to leave the Middle East a far worse place than he found it, a feat heretofore thought impossible.


  53. Da_Beerfreak
    54 | August 21, 2011 6:34 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    Not if the Chicom oil companies cut the EU & BP out of the deal…
    BP wanted desperately to renegotiate their contract
    and french oil was facing half a billion dollars in fines.
    great victory for BP and french oil

    Only if they can hold on to it. :twisted:


  54. coldwarrior
    55 | August 21, 2011 6:34 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    From what I’m hearing from liberals, it’s cool now to hate Obozo. Hopenchange is soooo 2008.

    really…do tell…


  55. Prebanned
    56 | August 21, 2011 6:35 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    It is pretty sad that islam pretty much guaranties you can’t fix it.


  56. coldwarrior
    57 | August 21, 2011 6:36 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    as messed up as that choice is, it is reality, sadly.


  57. Prebanned
    58 | August 21, 2011 6:37 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    This is what happens when you work with the infidels!


  58. 59 | August 21, 2011 6:39 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    really…do tell…

    Many of the die hard liberals I work with are expressing their open disappointment on how ‘less than impressive’ the Zero has been.


  59. Da_Beerfreak
    60 | August 21, 2011 6:40 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Obama is destined to leave the Middle East a far worse place than he found it, a feat heretofore thought impossible.

    There are predictions that there will be a major war in the ME. The sand rats know that Dirty Barry is their best bet and will act before he leaves office.


  60. 61 | August 21, 2011 6:41 pm

    RIX wrote:

    If this mob now moving into Tripoli procalim their
    loylty to al Queda or some other Jihadis organization,
    I guess that will just be an oops moment.

    That is a certainty. Libya will immediately mutate into yet another Islamic Terror Super State like Pakistan, Syria, Iran, well… pretty much like all the countries under Allah.


  61. coldwarrior
    62 | August 21, 2011 6:43 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    really…do tell…
    Many of the die hard liberals I work with are expressing their open disappointment on how ‘less than impressive’ the Zero has been.

    sooo…they’ll vote for ‘kuisinich’ when he runs as 3rd party?


  62. coldwarrior
    63 | August 21, 2011 6:43 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    This is what happens when you work with the infidels!

    in this case, sadly…its true.

    our word means nothing now


  63. chickadee
    64 | August 21, 2011 6:45 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    via hotair http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/08/16/2530951/long-unemployment-takes-a-mental.html

    So true. Take a look at these long lines. Then and Now.
    Nothing has changed much except the style in clothing.
    Same sadness and misery.

    http://images.alfa.lt/5363/62/50.jpg

    http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/replicate/EXID50959/images/unemployment_line(3).jpg


  64. yenta-fada
    65 | August 21, 2011 6:45 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    If this mob now moving into Tripoli procalim their
    loylty to al Queda or some other Jihadis organization,
    I guess that will just be an oops moment.
    That is a certainty. Libya will immediately mutate into yet another Islamic Terror Super State like Pakistan, Syria, Iran, well… pretty much like all the countries under Allah.

    Watching the Libyans (all men) celebrating in the streets makes me sad. They don’t know how bad it can get. These tribal societies with the addition of Islamism are a recipe for disaster. Khaddafi gave them no benefits or opportunities, but there was no mass starvation nor blood in the streets. As the predators move in, it is always the ordinary people who suffer the most.


  65. yenta-fada
    66 | August 21, 2011 6:46 pm

    @ chickadee:

    Without millions on food stamps, there would be breadlines now.


  66. John Difool
    67 | August 21, 2011 6:47 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Stay tuned for the tribes fighting each other for power and control in a civil war and then AQ descending into the vacuum.

    Gaddaffi defeated isn’t the end, it’s just the beginning.


  67. RIX
    68 | August 21, 2011 6:48 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Only fools will trust the word of the West in the future thanks to Dirty Barry’s treachery…

    Obama has wounded this country, but that is what
    he meant to do.
    Mission accomplished.


  68. Lily
    69 | August 21, 2011 6:49 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    really…do tell…

    Many of the die hard liberals I work with are expressing their open disappointment on how ‘less than impressive’ the Zero has been.

    Wow less than impressive! They are too kind…
    Epic Fail is more to the point. But I will take that from the ones that voted him in ‘less than impressive’ will work just as long as they don’t vote again for him. bho is losing his base and that works too. :)


  69. RIX
    70 | August 21, 2011 6:49 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:

    That is a certainty. Libya will immediately mutate into yet another Islamic Terror Super State like Pakistan, Syria, Iran, well… pretty much like all the countries under Allah.

    Take it to the bank. Inshallah.


  70. RIX
    71 | August 21, 2011 6:52 pm

    How much of your money do you think that BHO will pledge
    to “rebuild” Libya?


  71. Speranza
    72 | August 21, 2011 6:52 pm

    Libya will turn into another Somalia however with oil reserves.


  72. waldensianspirit
    73 | August 21, 2011 6:52 pm

    And McCain got to be a war horse one more time. Striding around Libya as the American bigshot


  73. 74 | August 21, 2011 6:55 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    There are predictions that there will be a major war in the ME. The sand rats know that Dirty Barry is their best bet and will act before he leaves office.

    I think that’s a good bet. “Smart Diplomacy” has turned out to be not only destructive to the US and her allies, but, inevitably, assurance of a generation of instability and a distinct possibility of regional nuclear war.


  74. Lily
    75 | August 21, 2011 6:55 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Obama is destined to leave the Middle East a far worse place than he found it, a feat heretofore thought impossible.

    There are predictions that there will be a major war in the ME. The sand rats know that Dirty Barry is their best bet and will act before he leaves office.

    Yep …everyday now something bad (like it wasn’t before) but more bad news coming out of the middle east. By the time of 2012 election here it will be full on on fire.
    Predictions of a major war? Good heavens….our magical pres has really shown how he is in waaaaaaaaaaaaay over his head concerning, well just about everything. He does do ‘present’ well though…but even on that he comes in late to say it.


  75. RIX
    76 | August 21, 2011 6:56 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    You know, I don’t know where McCain gets his cred on war,
    his experience is being a POW.
    A heroic POW , but not a war expert.


  76. huckfunn
    77 | August 21, 2011 6:57 pm

    RIX wrote:

    You know Momar has no redeeming qualities, but that’s
    not the point, we had him defanged.
    If this mob now moving into Tripoli procalim their
    loylty to al Queda or some other Jihadis organization,
    I guess that will just be an oops moment.

    Obama sez “The Arab Spring was not as spring-like as we expected… chuckle, snicker”…


  77. Prebanned
    78 | August 21, 2011 6:57 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:
    McCain is the war “Maverick”, his royal maverishisness.


  78. Lily
    79 | August 21, 2011 6:57 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    Stay tuned for the tribes fighting each other for power and control in a civil war and then AQ descending into the vacuum.

    Gaddaffi defeated isn’t the end, it’s just the beginning.

    Yep and do not under estimate the muslim brotherhood which is just as bad as AQ…..


  79. coldwarrior
    80 | August 21, 2011 6:58 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ waldensianspirit:
    You know, I don’t know where McCain gets his cred on war,
    his experience is being a POW.
    A heroic POW , but not a war expert.

    yeah…i wonder what luxury Mediterranean islands they stopped over on during that trip.


  80. chickadee
    81 | August 21, 2011 6:58 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Only fools will trust the word of the West in the future thanks to Dirty Barry’s treachery…

    Obama has wounded this country, but that is what
    he meant to do.
    Mission accomplished.

    Time to tear up his race card, throw it in his face and impeach him.


  81. RIX
    82 | August 21, 2011 6:59 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    If this cretin BHO gets another for years, we are so screwed,
    as are our chidren & grandchildren.


  82. yenta-fada
    83 | August 21, 2011 7:01 pm

    Lily wrote:

    John Difool wrote:
    @ yenta-fada:
    Stay tuned for the tribes fighting each other for power and control in a civil war and then AQ descending into the vacuum.
    Gaddaffi defeated isn’t the end, it’s just the beginning.
    Yep and do not under estimate the muslim brotherhood which is just as bad as AQ…..

    There’s a difference between these groups? Some have more weapons than others…..


  83. chickadee
    84 | August 21, 2011 7:01 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    You know Momar has no redeeming qualities, but that’s
    not the point, we had him defanged.
    If this mob now moving into Tripoli procalim their
    loylty to al Queda or some other Jihadis organization,
    I guess that will just be an oops moment.

    Obama sez “The Arab Spring was not as spring-like as we expected… chuckle, snicker”…

    That is a perfect ready made ad to use against the crass pos.


  84. RIX
    85 | August 21, 2011 7:03 pm

    @ chickadee:

    Time to tear up his race card, throw it in his face and impeach him.

    If Obama did an ax murder on prime time TV , while
    talking on the phone selling our nuclear secrets, he
    would not be impeached.
    The Dem Senate would never do it & that old fool
    McCain wouldn’t vote for it either.


  85. Prebanned
    86 | August 21, 2011 7:03 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ waldensianspirit:
    You know, I don’t know where McCain gets his cred on war,
    his experience is being a POW.
    A heroic POW , but not a war expert.

    McCain knew what side he was on as a POW.
    Still he is actually a much better patriot than Kerry.
    McCain would be a really good Democrat Senator, He stinks as a Republican.


  86. Lily
    87 | August 21, 2011 7:03 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    John Difool wrote:
    @ yenta-fada:
    Stay tuned for the tribes fighting each other for power and control in a civil war and then AQ descending into the vacuum.
    Gaddaffi defeated isn’t the end, it’s just the beginning.
    Yep and do not under estimate the muslim brotherhood which is just as bad as AQ…..

    There’s a difference between these groups? Some have more weapons than others…..

    You are right there is no difference in those groups.


  87. RIX
    88 | August 21, 2011 7:04 pm

    New Lbyan stimulus plan on the way.


  88. chickadee
    89 | August 21, 2011 7:04 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ waldensianspirit:

    You know, I don’t know where McCain gets his cred on war,
    his experience is being a POW.
    A heroic POW , but not a war expert.

    McCain may not be a war expert, but he is a self proclaimed expert in judging zero. He told us we had nothing to fear form a zero Presidency because zero was not an arab but rather a fine family man.


  89. Lily
    90 | August 21, 2011 7:06 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ waldensianspirit:

    You know, I don’t know where McCain gets his cred on war,
    his experience is being a POW.
    A heroic POW , but not a war expert.

    McCain may not be a war expert, but he is a self proclaimed expert in judging zero. He told us we had nothing to fear form a zero Presidency because zero was not an arab but rather a fine family man.

    What a way to run a campagin against him in 2008….


  90. John Difool
    91 | August 21, 2011 7:07 pm

    Lily wrote:

    John Difool wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Stay tuned for the tribes fighting each other for power and control in a civil war and then AQ descending into the vacuum.
    Gaddaffi defeated isn’t the end, it’s just the beginning.

    Yep and do not under estimate the muslim brotherhood which is just as bad as AQ…..

    Compared to AQ, The MB are Terrorism-Lite, just like the comparison between Hamas and Fatah.


  91. RIX
    92 | August 21, 2011 7:08 pm

    @ Prebanned:

    McCain knew what side he was on as a POW.
    Still he is actually a much better patriot than Kerry.
    McCain would be a really good Democrat Senator, He stinks as a Republican.

    McCain is an authentic American hero & that can
    never be taken away.But he is now counter-productive.
    Also he held himself open to be Kerrys running mate,
    who he knows is a phony & a traitor.


  92. yenta-fada
    93 | August 21, 2011 7:09 pm

    @ Lily:

    As long as their default position is to be like Mohammamed, it’s daily doooomage. Silent apostates have to become a majority in order for Muslims to live with others. As long as you can get money and power by hating infidels, there’s a problem.


  93. 94 | August 21, 2011 7:09 pm

    I’m reminded how overjoyed the liberals were when the Shah was driven out of Iran. That was the official start of the Muslim shit storm in which we currently find ourselves. The shit storm is about to get infinitely worse. No longer are there “trouble spots” in the Middle East, instead, there are small islands of relative calm in an overall sea of absolute chaos. It’s going to get far worse before it gets better.


  94. 95 | August 21, 2011 7:10 pm

    @ John Difool:

    This is a victory for The Progressive-Islamic Axis. NATO has destroyed a secular regime to help Islamic rebels.


  95. yenta-fada
    96 | August 21, 2011 7:10 pm

    @ John Difool:

    Same end; somewhat different means.


  96. RIX
    97 | August 21, 2011 7:10 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    yeah…i wonder what luxury Mediterranean islands they stopped over on during that trip.

    McCain probably cosulted the Obama’s for travel
    tips.


  97. brookly red
    98 | August 21, 2011 7:11 pm

    @ Rodan:
    ACK! true how true…


  98. Lily
    99 | August 21, 2011 7:11 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Lily:

    As long as their default position is to be like Mohammamed, it’s daily doooomage. Silent apostates have to become a majority in order for Muslims to live with others. As long as you can get money and power by hating infidels, there’s a problem.

    Yep.


  99. Prebanned
    100 | August 21, 2011 7:11 pm

    @ RIX:
    He would make a great dem.


  100. RIX
    101 | August 21, 2011 7:11 pm

    @ chickadee:

    McCain may not be a war expert, but he is a self proclaimed expert in judging zero. He told us we had nothing to fear form a zero Presidency because zero was not an arab but rather a fine family man

    .

    McCain just really needs to go away now.
    See ya’ll later.


  101. Lily
    102 | August 21, 2011 7:12 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ John Difool:

    Same end; somewhat different means.

    Give them time …


  102. RIX
    103 | August 21, 2011 7:12 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    @ RIX:
    He would make a great dem.

    Even more, a great retiree


  103. John Difool
    104 | August 21, 2011 7:14 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    This is a victory for The Progressive-Islamic Axis. NATO has destroyed a secular regime to help Islamic rebels.

    No doubt, which is why Obama supports it 100%, but could only offer a half-hearted response after two whole weeks on the legitimate democratic uprising in Iran a few years back when the regime was killing it’s people in the streets.

    You know how I know when it’s bad? If Obama supports it.


  104. Lily
    105 | August 21, 2011 7:14 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    I’m reminded how overjoyed the liberals were when the Shah was driven out of Iran. That was the official start of the Muslim shit storm in which we currently find ourselves. The shit storm is about to get infinitely worse. No longer are there “trouble spots” in the Middle East, instead, there are small islands of relative calm in an overall sea of absolute chaos. It’s going to get far worse before it gets better.

    This I agree with….those small islands of calm are going by the wayside almost daily.


  105. 106 | August 21, 2011 7:14 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Yup another victory for the Axis of evil.


  106. yenta-fada
    107 | August 21, 2011 7:14 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Prebanned wrote:
    @ RIX:
    He would make a great dem.
    Even more, a great retiree

    lol. unlikely.


  107. yenta-fada
    108 | August 21, 2011 7:15 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    Yup another victory for the Axis of evil.

    Is there a radio show tonight?


  108. Alberta Oil Peon
    109 | August 21, 2011 7:17 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yeah, there’s a sound security reason for Obama and Biden not to fly on the same plane, but none such for Owe and the Mooch.


  109. huckfunn
    110 | August 21, 2011 7:17 pm

    chickadee wrote:

    That is a perfect ready made ad to use against the crass pos.

    Every thing zer0 does or says is a ready-made GOP TV ad. I hope they’ll have the gumption to use it and they can get started anytime now.


  110. Aussie Infidel
    111 | August 21, 2011 7:20 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ John Difool:

    This is a victory for The Progressive-Islamic Axis. NATO has destroyed a secular regime to help Islamic rebels.

    Hi Rodan

    The same thing is about to happen in Syria. A corrupt secular socialist (Baath) regime is about to fall to Sunni islamists. Sure Assad is a nasty murderous bit of trash but compared to his opposition he’s Mother Teresa. When the Assad and thge Allawites go down all of the Syrian minorities will be for the chop. Not only the Shia Allawites (10% of the population) but also the Christian Assyrian minority (12%) and the Druez (8-10%) and others. We will have yet another Sunni bunch of homicidal killers murdering the minorities as Obambi and his cabal wring their hands and try to think up new excuses for being idiots.

    The Fascist progressive left are terminally infected with the harbinger of Unintended Consequences and have a mental block when it comes to even see the stupidity of their position.


  111. brookly red
    112 | August 21, 2011 7:21 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    Yup another victory for the Axis of evil.

    its gonna get worse before it gets better, but it will get better.


  112. Alberta Oil Peon
    113 | August 21, 2011 7:22 pm

    @ Eliana:
    Nevertheless, it might be a coup of sorts for Israel to grant Khadaffi asylum, under strict conditions, of course. Maybe they could groom him to take over Syria as an Israeli stooge, LOL.

    It would be worth doing just to enjoy the spectacle of exploding heads across the Leftosphere.


  113. brookly red
    114 | August 21, 2011 7:23 pm

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ John Difool:
    This is a victory for The Progressive-Islamic Axis. NATO has destroyed a secular regime to help Islamic rebels.

    Hi Rodan
    The same thing is about to happen in Syria. A corrupt secular socialist (Baath) regime is about to fall to Sunni islamists. Sure Assad is a nasty murderous bit of trash but compared to his opposition he’s Mother Teresa. When the Assad and thge Allawites go down all of the Syrian minorities will be for the chop. Not only the Shia Allawites (10% of the population) but also the Christian Assyrian minority (12%) and the Druez (8-10%) and others. We will have yet another Sunni bunch of homicidal killers murdering the minorities as Obambi and his cabal wring their hands and try to think up new excuses for being idiots.
    The Fascist progressive left are terminally infected with the harbinger of Unintended Consequences and have a mental block when it comes to even see the stupidity of their position.

    and when that happens it won’t be fun to be in Lebonan…


  114. Bumr50
    115 | August 21, 2011 7:24 pm

    RIX wrote:

    But he is now counter-productive.

    That’s a nice way of putting it!


  115. waldensianspirit
    116 | August 21, 2011 7:24 pm

    @ Alberta Oil Peon:
    Israelis offered Mubarak


  116. Lost
    117 | August 21, 2011 7:25 pm

    @ Aussie Infidel:
    Hi, quick question in regards to something you posted after the debt downgrade. You mentioned that the AUS had already hit a high of $1.20 at one stage but I cannot find any record of that occurring since the dollar was floated in the 80′s. Were you referring to the AUS or the NZ $?


  117. Aussie Infidel
    118 | August 21, 2011 7:28 pm

    @ brookly red:
    Still it won’t be all bad. After all the Syrian Sunnis hate the Shia Hezbollah in Southern Lebanon. Iran may lose it’s Syrian supported foothold on the Northern border of Israel. That can’t be bad.

    That said however no doubt Hezbollah will loose its 40,000 rockets of varying sizes onto Israel before it departs the scene.


  118. John Difool
    119 | August 21, 2011 7:28 pm

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    This supposed ‘Arab Spring’ nexus is evolving daily and will make for some strange bedfellows in the coming years. The squeeze is now getting put on the kingdoms of the Persian Gulf states and the emirates with the impending Islamic super state that is about to surround them and with Assad lined up next to fall that puts the squeeze on Iran and Hezbollah.

    I can totally see the Saudi Kingdom and the Jordanian kingdom allying with their mortal enemies the Persian mullahs in Iran for mutual survival.


  119. 120 | August 21, 2011 7:31 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Yes.


  120. Bob in Breckenridge
    121 | August 21, 2011 7:32 pm

    Hit and run post- Mark Steyn is on CSPAN2 right now talking about his new book “After America”. He’s on for 90 minutes.


  121. 122 | August 21, 2011 7:32 pm

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    There will be another Israel-Hizballah war.


  122. Aussie Infidel
    123 | August 21, 2011 7:34 pm

    @ Lost:
    The Aussie Dollar. The Kiwi is still hovering between 80 and 84 cents US to the NZ dollar whilst the Aussie $ is soaring based on their mining economy and China trade in minerals


  123. 124 | August 21, 2011 7:34 pm

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    The Progressive Fascists will love seeing an Islamic Syria kill Christians.

    The question is will there be a 3 Way war?

    Israel vs. Hizballah vs. Islamic Syria?


  124. 125 | August 21, 2011 7:35 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Yes


  125. Lost
    126 | August 21, 2011 7:36 pm

    @ Aussie Infidel:
    ok, Can you please tell me when the dollar hit $1.20 AUS?


  126. Aussie Infidel
    127 | August 21, 2011 7:37 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    I can totally see the Saudi Kingdom and the Jordanian kingdom allying with their mortal enemies the Persian mullahs in Iran for mutual survival.

    Not sure I agree as Sunni Wahhabists Saudis and Shia Persians of Iran are natural opponents across the Gulf


  127. Aussie Infidel
    128 | August 21, 2011 7:38 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    There will be another Israel-Hizballah war.

    You can put money on that mate. If for no other reason, the Hezboillah terrorists will want to fire off their 40,000 rockets facing Israel before retiring to the Gulf


  128. 129 | August 21, 2011 7:41 pm

    Here’s my angle: I think the Dem handlers are going to get Zero to resign in the next 9 months. That way Biden will have to select a VP that they can groom to run against the GOP. Biden will decline to run, stating some sort of personal reason not to pursue the presidency, and then the Dems will have a clean candidate run.

    If the DEM handlers conclude that Zero is toast, they will not need him anymore come 2012.


  129. Aussie Infidel
    130 | August 21, 2011 7:41 pm

    @ Lost:
    From memory it touched $1.20 about 4 months ago before falling back later in the day to hover around $1.18 for a while and then tumbled back to reality where it now languishes, awaiting the next US debt crisis


  130. 131 | August 21, 2011 7:42 pm

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    Hizballah’s end will be Christians, Druzes, Sunnis and Israelis falling upon them like jackals.


  131. Alberta Oil Peon
    132 | August 21, 2011 7:43 pm

    @ John Difool:
    The Saudis and the Jordanians would be far better off allying with Israel. They could solve the “Palestinian” problem in a heartbeat by simply assimilating the Palestinians in small batches throughout Saudi and Jordanian territory. Israel, in turn, relieved of the need to constantly deal with local terrorism, could help defend the borders of the other two states from incursions by Shiites, etc.

    Of course, I’m not holding my breath…


  132. Aussie Infidel
    133 | August 21, 2011 7:44 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    Biden will decline to run, stating some sort of personal reason

    Biden will use the well worn excuse of terminal stupidity as his way out and everyone will believe him based on his past utterances.

    I smell the rise again of the Hildabeast. !


  133. John Difool
    134 | August 21, 2011 7:44 pm

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    John Difool wrote:
    @ Aussie Infidel:
    I can totally see the Saudi Kingdom and the Jordanian kingdom allying with their mortal enemies the Persian mullahs in Iran for mutual survival.

    Not sure I agree as Sunni Wahhabists Saudis and Shia Persians of Iran are natural opponents across the Gulf

    Not just natural opponents, but historically mortal enemies. However, it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if the squeeze was put on hard enough they would ally in a symbiotic albeit uncomfortable relationship to ensure each others survival.

    Probably not, but I read a lot of Generational Dynamics and the guy over there puts up a lot of these scenarios which although they probably wouldn’t pan out in the real world, make perfect sense in their own weird way.

    Just food for thought.


  134. citizen_q
    135 | August 21, 2011 7:44 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    chickadee wrote:
    That is a perfect ready made ad to use against the crass pos.
    Every thing zer0 does or says is a ready-made GOP TV ad. I hope they’ll have the gumption to use it and they can get started anytime now.

    Assuming they really want to win. The often passes, or tepid responses have me wondering.

    McCain did not run his campaign IMHO like he wanted to win. He acted more like he was afraid of being called a racist then running a strong wining campaign.


  135. 136 | August 21, 2011 7:45 pm

    I think HillBill could take a primary away from Zero. He is becoming a lead weight to the party and it won’t be long before they actually make a move against him.


  136. Aussie Infidel
    137 | August 21, 2011 7:47 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    Hizballah’s end will be Christians, Druzes, Sunnis and Israelis falling upon them like jackals.

    I wish I could believe that mate.

    More likely the Sunni Syrian theocracy will deal to the Allawaites and Christians first and then turn on Hezbollah and after the dust settles and Israel is still licking its wounds after absorbing 40,000 rockets , Syria will fall on Israel backed up by Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood radicals.


  137. brookly red
    138 | August 21, 2011 7:47 pm

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    Still it won’t be all bad. After all the Syrian Sunnis hate the Shia Hezbollah in Southern Lebanon. Iran may lose it’s Syrian supported foothold on the Northern border of Israel. That can’t be bad.
    That said however no doubt Hezbollah will loose its 40,000 rockets of varying sizes onto Israel before it departs the scene.

    good point… perhaps they may find it to their advantage to aim the North?


  138. Alberta Oil Peon
    139 | August 21, 2011 7:47 pm

    @ father_of_10:
    It will probably be couched as a health issue, to wring out that last drop of sympathy.

    “Washington, DC, May 5, 2012: Barack Obama tearfully announced his resignation today, saying that his terminal case of opticorectalitis was making it impossible for him to continue in the service of the people.”


  139. Aussie Infidel
    140 | August 21, 2011 7:49 pm

    @ John Difool:
    He may be correct as after all we are talking about the Middle East. Might as well be the planet Zog for all the logical rationality it represents! :)


  140. 141 | August 21, 2011 7:49 pm

    @ father_of_10:

    He sure as hell better not choose Нанси Пелоси!


  141. Lost
    142 | August 21, 2011 7:49 pm

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    @ Lost:
    From memory it touched $1.20 about 4 months ago before falling back later in the day to hover around $1.18 for a while and then tumbled back to reality where it now languishes, awaiting the next US debt crisis

    I have searched everywhere for those figures and have not found them. The highest reported level since the float in the 80′s has been just over $1.10. I watch the price on a daily basis and I was shocked to see $1.20 quoted! If you can find a source for your figures, I’d greatly appreciate it.
    BTW, the dollar is currently trading at $1.038 AUS.
    This website has some interesting analysis and charts if you’re interested.


  142. 143 | August 21, 2011 7:50 pm

    @ Alberta Oil Peon:

    Eyes up his ass…huh? 8)


  143. 144 | August 21, 2011 7:50 pm

    “opticorectalitis”

    Does that mean he can’t tell shit from Shinola?


  144. Lost
    145 | August 21, 2011 7:51 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    Here’s my angle: I think the Dem handlers are going to get Zero to resign in the next 9 months. That way Biden will have to select a VP that they can groom to run against the GOP. Biden will decline to run, stating some sort of personal reason not to pursue the presidency, and then the Dems will have a clean candidate run.

    If the DEM handlers conclude that Zero is toast, they will not need him anymore come 2012.

    I’m the first to admit I don’t get the liberal way of thinking but I can’t see this ever happening.
    Back to work./


  145. 146 | August 21, 2011 7:51 pm

    I’m headed to P-town in the morning and will be there til Wednesday.


  146. Aussie Infidel
    147 | August 21, 2011 7:51 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    I think HillBill could take a primary away from Zero. He is becoming a lead weight to the party and it won’t be long before they actually make a move against him.

    Stranger things have happened. However to change horses in mid stream is fraught, even for the loopy Democrats to chance during an election year.


  147. 148 | August 21, 2011 7:52 pm

    Lost wrote:

    father_of_10 wrote:
    Here’s my angle: I think the Dem handlers are going to get Zero to resign in the next 9 months. That way Biden will have to select a VP that they can groom to run against the GOP. Biden will decline to run, stating some sort of personal reason not to pursue the presidency, and then the Dems will have a clean candidate run.
    If the DEM handlers conclude that Zero is toast, they will not need him anymore come 2012.

    I’m the first to admit I don’t get the liberal way of thinking but I can’t see this ever happening.
    Back to work./

    If they thought logically, they would do this. It would work and they could keep the WH in 2012.


  148. 149 | August 21, 2011 7:52 pm

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    That said however no doubt Hezbollah will loose its 40,000 rockets of varying sizes onto Israel before it departs the scene.

    40,000 rockets…Israel could give back one nuclear bomb on Damascus. I’d say that’s a fair exchange.


  149. Aussie Infidel
    150 | August 21, 2011 7:53 pm

    @ Lost:
    I’ll see if I can dig it out for you . It only briefly touched $1.20 and then fell back immediately as it had no floor under that price.

    I’ll get back to you. :)


  150. 151 | August 21, 2011 7:54 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    I’m headed to P-town in the morning and will be there til Wednesday.

    Yay!


  151. John Difool
    152 | August 21, 2011 7:54 pm

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    He may be correct as after all we are talking about the Middle East. Might as well be the planet Zog for all the logical rationality it represents!

    Nothing makes sense over there. The Wahhabists in the House of Saud love to export terrorism against the infidels, but hate when it’s employed against them by the very people they finance.

    Everything is a riddle wrapped up in an enigma over there.


  152. 153 | August 21, 2011 7:55 pm

    If the GOP takes the WH with a strong candidate that actually has a somewhat conservative agenda, the economy will turn around and the GOP will have the WH for 8 years and congress for 6 at least. The problem is that the GOP is also filled with progressives, liberals and communists too.


  153. 154 | August 21, 2011 7:57 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    Everything is a riddle wrapped up in an enigma over there.

    Actually, it’s a Disease, wrapped around an Ideology, inside a Cult.


  154. 155 | August 21, 2011 7:57 pm

    Macker wrote:

    father_of_10 wrote:
    I’m headed to P-town in the morning and will be there til Wednesday.
    Yay!

    Arizona Health Care Association annual convention and conference at Talking Stick.


  155. Aussie Infidel
    156 | August 21, 2011 7:58 pm

    Macker wrote:

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    That said however no doubt Hezbollah will loose its 40,000 rockets of varying sizes onto Israel before it departs the scene.

    40,000 rockets…Israel could give back one nuclear bomb on Damascus. I’d say that’s a fair exchange.

    The rockets are Hezboillah’s not Syria’s and by that stage the new Sunni Syrian theocratic regime would be looking over gun sights at Hezbollah.

    Using the Nuke by Israel is the last gasp reaction to being pushed into the sea. Any other use would cause the whole world to boycott Israel forever as a war crime, and would break the Israeli economy. The Israeli nukes really can only be used to ensure that if Israel ever goes down so will its attackers.


  156. huckfunn
    157 | August 21, 2011 7:58 pm

    Yay! Cowboys at Chargers on NBC in about 2 minutes.


  157. 158 | August 21, 2011 7:59 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Ya know there have always been rumors that Gadaffi’s mother was Jewish. So maybe he can escape to Israel and claim right of return. Stranger things have happened. Well I think stranger things have happened?

    Wouldn’t that make Gadaffi…a JOOOOO?


  158. Aussie Infidel
    159 | August 21, 2011 8:01 pm

    Have a great Sunday folks. Being Monday here I have to go and look busy.

    Later :)


  159. John Difool
    160 | August 21, 2011 8:03 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Yay! Cowboys at Chargers on NBC in about 2 minutes.

    Guess that makes me a Chargers fan tonight.


  160. 161 | August 21, 2011 8:05 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    I think the Dem handlers are going to get Zero to resign in the next 9 months.

    And how exactly pray tell are they going to do that, after spending the last 3 years extolling him as the messiah. Just forget it, that isn’t just a fantasy, it’s a fantasy even a lsd hallucinating crack addict couldn’t justify.


  161. 162 | August 21, 2011 8:05 pm

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    Israel would send in its Army to take land in Lebanon and level Lebanese Shia villages.


  162. 163 | August 21, 2011 8:05 pm

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    UNLESS said Hezbo rockets contained chemical and/or biological weapons. In that case, Israel would have EVERY right to nuke the cocksucking goatfuckers!


  163. 164 | August 21, 2011 8:05 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    And how exactly pray tell are they going to do that, after spending the last 3 years extolling him as the messiah. Just forget it, that isn’t just a fantasy, it’s a fantasy even a lsd hallucinating crack addict couldn’t justify.

    What about Carman’s Mother?


  164. 165 | August 21, 2011 8:06 pm

    @ Macker:

    Israel will level South Lebanon.


  165. 166 | August 21, 2011 8:08 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    father_of_10 wrote:
    I think the Dem handlers are going to get Zero to resign in the next 9 months.
    And how exactly pray tell are they going to do that, after spending the last 3 years extolling him as the messiah. Just forget it, that isn’t just a fantasy, it’s a fantasy even a lsd hallucinating crack addict couldn’t justify.

    He didn’t get there by himself. He is just a tool and the communist mechanics, in my opinion, are not above telling him to take a powder if they think he is too much of a liability.


  166. John Difool
    167 | August 21, 2011 8:08 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Macker:
    Israel will level South Lebanon.

    It’s not as if they haven’t done it before, but the cockroaches keep crawling out of the rubble.

    They need to irradiate the place.


  167. 168 | August 21, 2011 8:09 pm

    Think of the sympathy vote they could get if he has to resign because of health issues.


  168. John Difool
    169 | August 21, 2011 8:11 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    Think of the sympathy vote they could get if he has to resign because of health issues.

    Teleprompter caused brain tumor ?


  169. RIX
    170 | August 21, 2011 8:11 pm

    They are reporting now that Ghadafis personal guard
    has defected to Obamas Jeffersonian Democrats.
    Allah Akbar!


  170. waldensianspirit
    171 | August 21, 2011 8:12 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    father_of_10 wrote:
    I think the Dem handlers are going to get Zero to resign in the next 9 months.

    And how exactly pray tell are they going to do that, after spending the last 3 years extolling him as the messiah. Just forget it, that isn’t just a fantasy, it’s a fantasy even a lsd hallucinating crack addict couldn’t justify.

    I could see Farakhan’s Libyan connections helping him


  171. 172 | August 21, 2011 8:13 pm

    @ John Difool:

    \I’m talking about Israel going in Serb style.


  172. John Difool
    173 | August 21, 2011 8:16 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    \I’m talking about Israel going in Serb style.

    Hopefully the Israelis will take out all of the CNN, MSNBC, AP, NYT and Al-Jazeera reporters first. Then they will have a clear shot at victory.


  173. 174 | August 21, 2011 8:19 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    father_of_10 wrote:
    I think the Dem handlers are going to get Zero to resign in the next 9 months.
    And how exactly pray tell are they going to do that, after spending the last 3 years extolling him as the messiah. Just forget it, that isn’t just a fantasy, it’s a fantasy even a lsd hallucinating crack addict couldn’t justify.

    He didn’t get there by himself. He is just a tool and the communist mechanics, in my opinion, are not above telling him to take a powder if they think he is too much of a liability.

    Wow… Reality check… You do not spend three years telling a sociopath narcissist that they are a god and then tell them they have to STFD and STFU and have them do it. Sorry, no matter how much the fantasy that it can be done appeals to you, it doesn’t work.

    If you honestly think for one pico-second that that is going to happen, then you have had a psychotic break with reality. Barrack Obama may not be the smartest man in the room as he has been advertised, but he is not stupid either, not by a long shot.

    Check your foolish conspiracy theories at the door. Barrack Obama is calling the shots in the current administration. Hidden people in darkened room may make suggestions to him, but don’t get it fucked up, Barrack Obama is no puppet, he is the one calling the shots. He is not stepping aside for any reason what so ever.


  174. 175 | August 21, 2011 8:19 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    Hit and run post- Mark Steyn is on CSPAN2 right now talking about his new book “After America”. He’s on for 90 minutes.

    Thanks! Missed most of it, but will catch it on line. Surfing channels, I noticed Al Jazeera is now broadcasting on Time Warner Cable.


  175. yenta-fada
    176 | August 21, 2011 8:19 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ John Difool:
    \I’m talking about Israel going in Serb style.
    Hopefully the Israelis will take out all of the CNN, MSNBC, AP, NYT and Al-Jazeera reporters first. Then they will have a clear shot at victory.

    “Crazy kid with a dream” comment. :-)


  176. 177 | August 21, 2011 8:22 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Sorry, that might have come across harsher than necessary, but seriously, that theory is so stupid and absurd it doesn’t even belong on George Norries Coast to Coast.


  177. 178 | August 21, 2011 8:24 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    OK, I’m out for awhile (before I make enemies or people I like) some of the ideas floating around in here right now sound like crap Charles Johnson comes up with after 8 grams of meth in the glass pipe.


  178. brookly red
    179 | August 21, 2011 8:26 pm

    @ John Difool:

    ditto


  179. brookly red
    180 | August 21, 2011 8:29 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    father_of_10 wrote:
    Think of the sympathy vote they could get if he has to resign because of health issues.

    Teleprompter caused brain tumor ?

    I just passed beer through my nose…


  180. 181 | August 21, 2011 8:30 pm

    Show thread at 8:30 PM EST.


  181. John Difool
    182 | August 21, 2011 8:35 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Dunno dorian, perhaps a little harsh. A lot of folks on our side believe the same thing, that a lot of folks have glommed onto Obama because he was a blank slate they could draw all of their socialist wet dreams upon. A good looking smart impressionable black kid who could speak well and was easily manipulated, a Manchurian candidate so to speak. One need to look no further than the commie progs in his administration who were around long before O’downgrade boarded the bus for Columbia.

    True or not, certainly not hard to believe.


  182. 183 | August 21, 2011 8:58 pm

    I love ya to pieces dorian,but I really don’t think Zero is calling the shots. He doesn’t have the gravitas. Never did.

    All of the other Dem leaders has had a resume and a history that people could bank on and follow. This guy came from nowhere with nothing. Even Carter had something: Naval officer and governor and his education was an open book. Zero has no past and he was foisted on to the Dem masses seemingly by forces unseen. He may be calling the shots now, but only because he is being allowed to. Soros will get him the word in the next 9 months that his time is up.

    I’ll bet a T-shirt on it.


  183. brookly red
    184 | August 21, 2011 9:37 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    I love ya to pieces dorian,but I really don’t think Zero is calling the shots. He doesn’t have the gravitas. Never did.
    All of the other Dem leaders has had a resume and a history that people could bank on and follow. This guy came from nowhere with nothing. Even Carter had something: Naval officer and governor and his education was an open book. Zero has no past and he was foisted on to the Dem masses seemingly by forces unseen. He may be calling the shots now, but only because he is being allowed to. Soros will get him the word in the next 9 months that his time is up.
    I’ll bet a T-shirt on it.

    Zero is not calling the shots… he is a post turtle


  184. 185 | August 21, 2011 9:41 pm

    [...] From Chickadee on Blogmocracy: Jobless in USA, 1930s Jobless in Spain, 2011 Take a look at these long lines. Then and Now. Nothing has changed much except the style in clothing. Same sadness and misery. [...]


  185. 186 | August 21, 2011 9:41 pm

    [...] From Chickadee on Blogmocracy: Jobless in USA, 1930s Jobless in Spain, 2011 Take a look at these long lines. Then and Now. Nothing has changed much except the style in clothing. Same sadness and misery. [...]


  186. brookly red
    187 | August 21, 2011 10:00 pm

    well what is changed is that now “they” get to control who is in misery… this is no accident.


  187. 188 | August 22, 2011 1:18 pm

    One of the things that we need in our nation will be the largest reduction in the numbers of civil service employees in a century. When he assumed the office that racist intellectual and Democratic President Woodrow Wilson sacked all of the Black Americans employed by the Government.


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