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Bachmann remained silent on mandatory vaccinations while serving in the Minnesota congress

by Speranza ( 21 Comments › )
Filed under Elections 2012, Headlines at September 14th, 2011 - 8:55 am

My, my, my – demagogic Bachmann has some explaining to do.

by Ben Howe

What’s worse than a mandatory vaccination that never actually came to law and, even if it had, contained an opt-out? According to Michele Bachmann, nothing. In fact, if you listen to Michele Bachmann these days, you’d think Governor Perry was strapping 12 year old children to tables to inject them when he takes breaks from using the other needle on inmates.

Bachmann is making the case that opposing vaccinations required by the state is fundamentally a conservative issue, which is news to many conservatives given that mandatory vaccinations have been around as long as they have, and, to my knowledge, we haven’t made it a big part of the Republican platform to oppose them. But if you listened to Bachmann last night, it’s clear that she believes this is the type of issue on which a presidential candidate must stand, must do the right thing, and cannot waver in putting this forth as a conservative principle lest we risk infecting millions of children with mental retardation.

Has this always been an enormous part of this warrior’s soul? Apparently not.

By all appearances, she felt no need to mention, much less work towards stopping, a vaccination that, by her own standards, is an assault on liberty. Even more so actually. The HPV vaccination, while called mandatory, made available an opt-out provision so that the parental rights that she felt were so paramount could be protected in this decision. The Hepatitis B vaccination in Minnesota (state law since 1993) doesn’t even require parental consent at all. And Hep B’s communicability is similar to HPV in that it is primarily transmitted through intercourse, as opposed to being an airborne illness.  Currently, no records can be found of Michele Bachmann sponsoring legislation in the Minnesota legislature to repeal the Hep B vaccination or to add a parental opt-out.

Congressman Bachmann served in the Minnesota congress for 5 years.  In all that time, she never felt quite as driven by her parental instincts and conservative nature to decry or work to reverse what now she clearly consider to be an incredible breach of conservative values.  I wonder what’s changed?  Were the children of Minnesota not important enough?  Is it only robbing a childhood if it’s vaccinations that her opponent supported but the one’s back home are just fine? Did she lack the same leadership qualities then?  She’s been touting her leadership abilities in the Congress for months, but so far, other than a state record of not opposing or even mentioning laws that are even worse than the law she’s now savaging Rick Perry over (which in his case, never became law anyway), a federal record of passing zero bills with her name on it, and campaigning with all of the tact and style of a 19 year old pop-music singer who overestimates her own importance, I’m failing to see what qualifies her for president.

But it’s not quite enough for her to attack Governor Perry for his desire to put forth a vaccination program that is not at all controversial when compared to other vaccination programs that exist with little uproar in various states (including Pennsylvania Mr. Santorum).  As Erick noted earlier today, she’s going to take a minor rhetorical win and blow it up to insane proportions that stretch even the most ardent supporters’ ability to excuse her behavior.

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I’ve already gone through my thoughts on Rick Perry’s actions and what they ultimately will mean to my support of him, so I feel no need to rehash it here, but having already heard a lot of discussion about candidates playing on the fears of voters, the quote in bold above is simply beyond the pale.  To compare government subsidized abortion to the moderately normal and societally acceptable practice of mandating vaccines takes hyperbole into the stratosphere and was the moment I became more than happy to burn the bridge with this person.

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21 Responses to “Bachmann remained silent on mandatory vaccinations while serving in the Minnesota congress”
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  1. Bumr50
    1 | September 14, 2011 8:57 am

    She’s done.


  2. Speranza
    2 | September 14, 2011 8:59 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    She’s done.

    She should never even have been a candidate. Can you imagine the type of idiot who would agree to be her running mate?


  3. 3 | September 14, 2011 9:09 am

    Speranza wrote:

    She should never even have been a candidate

    I’ll disagree there. She brings an impoortant perspective to the debate. Before Perry entered the race, she was the only person really bringing the Tea Party to thetable. Her Guardisil position, though, is untenable. It has really destroyed her candidacy, and I had had high hopes for her.


  4. 4 | September 14, 2011 9:14 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    We will disagree. She doesn’t represent my wing of the Tea Party.

    She don’t speak for me.

    Rubio and Allen West represent my Tea Party views. Bachmann just adopted the label to push her angry and bitter views.

    Good riddance to her.


  5. Bumr50
    5 | September 14, 2011 9:16 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I agree.

    The whole point of a primary is to bring issues to light, and Bachmann’s voice is one of Tea Party conservatism.

    She’s exposed herself as a lousy candidate for President, but I’m glad that she’s got a seat in the House.

    She simply made a poor campaign decision, and followed it up by doubling down on it.

    This is HEALTHY for the GOP. We need to have these arguments. NOT having these arguments leads to Bob Dole and John McCain.

    I would hope that the other candidates continue to challenge both Perry and Romney, and not simply roll over and defer to one or the other. That’s insane.


  6. 6 | September 14, 2011 9:21 am

    @ Bumr50:

    WHo selected Bachmann a Tea Party voice? What values does she share? She’s an angry bitter woman.


  7. 7 | September 14, 2011 9:26 am

    Rodan wrote:

    She’s an angry bitter woman.

    That is an MFM characterization of her. She speaks for the base on most issues. Take gay marriage, which was so decisive in the NY-9 race. Being pro-gay marriage is a loser even among Democrat populations. Her opposition simply gives voice to what a majority of the country (and the culture) feels. I’m sorry (well, not really sorry), but the pro-gay agenda schtick only works in the big Liberal cities. It doesn’t sell in the rest of the country.


  8. Speranza
    8 | September 14, 2011 9:26 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    My feeling is that she is a shallow person who speaks in platitudes.


  9. 9 | September 14, 2011 9:34 am

    @ Speranza:

    She’s a politician. What do you expect? Socrates? They killed him for his deep thoughts. We aren’t going to get that dfrom our political class, no matter which side of the aisle they are on. Look at all the hell Perry is getting for calling Social Security what it is. Perry is the absolute best we can expect from the political class. I am real afraid he won’t make it, just because he is so honest.


  10. Bumr50
    10 | September 14, 2011 9:35 am

    @ Rodan:

    Sponsored Bills:

    H.R.86 : End Tax Uncertainty Act of 2011

    H.R.87 : To repeal the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act.

    H.R.849 : Light Bulb Freedom of Choice Act

    H.R.1285 : Military Health Care Affordability Act

    H.R.1286 : Healthcare Fiscal Accountability Act of 2011

    Co-Sponsored Bills:

    H.R.2 : Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act

    H.R.4 : Comprehensive 1099 Taxpayer Protection and Repayment of Exchange Subsidy Overpayments Act of 2011

    H.R.10 : Regulations From the Executive in Need of Scrutiny Act of 2011

    . H.R.49 : American Energy Independence and Price Reduction Act

    H.R.96 : Internet Freedom Act

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    More…

    Bachmann is a member of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Financial Services Committee.

    As the federal government continues to grow under the current administration, Bachmann was honored to establish the Tea Party Caucus in July 2010. She is proud to stand with the Tea Party to call for lower taxes, renewed focus on the Constitution and smaller government.

    If you think that she needs primaried out of her seat, that’s your opinion.

    She’s not without personality flaws, but I’m personally pretty happy that she’s there, and am not going to roundly condemn her.

    She’s exposed herself as a lousy Presidential candidate, and she’s not going to win.


  11. Speranza
    11 | September 14, 2011 9:52 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    It is a long way to go. Perry will get better in his debating skills. Obama is beatable – he has a record he cannot run away from.


  12. 12 | September 14, 2011 9:54 am

    @ Speranza:

    That is the way I feel about it. The more I learn of Perry, the more confident that the man is the person we need as the next President of the United States. He is head ands shoulders above Romney, and Obama doesn’t even register on that scale.


  13. Speranza
    13 | September 14, 2011 10:31 am

    Steven Hayward from Powerline has this to say in a post
    “Giving up on Bachmann”

    Up to now I’ve thought Michele Bachman was the most impressive performer in the GOP field, going toe-to-toe with the “big boys” in the field, out-arguing them on several occasions, and introducing serious constitutional arguments that the rest of the field (even Perry) are too timid to attempt. She’s right to go after Rick Perry on the issue of mandating the use of the Gardisil vaccine, along with the issue of “crony capitalism,” both of which get at the issue of a potential president’s sense of the reach and limits of state power. Perry is a mixed bag on this (as is Romney obviously) and he should be pressed hard to explain himself and refine his views.

    But her embrace of the wacko idea that the vaccine is dangerous or causes autism, mental retardation, or other risks is simply irresponsible. Is Bachman, Glenn Reynolds quipped, trying to go after the Jenny McCarthy vote? Meanwhile, Jim Geraghty over at National Review‘s Morning Jolt says Bachmann has embraced McCarthyism–Jenny McCarthyism. Hyuck-yuck. (Glenn also links to Jonathan Adler’s quick take on this, which is the same as mine.)

    Bachman passed along with complete credulity the claim of someone who she says came up to her after the debate attributing her child’s mental issues to the vaccine. I’ve heard a few people speculate darkly about whether such a person actually exists, or whether Bachman made it up or is trimming a bit from something she was told another time. You’d think our inquisitive news media would find this person and investigate, or that the person would now step forward (or that other people with similar claims would now step forward). Above all, this is a political mistake as well as a scientific one, as it has shifted the focus from Perry’s use of power to Bachmann’s scientific credibility—a lose-lose for everyone.

    Which raises the last point. NBC Nightly News last night went to some trouble to attack Bachman’s views on the Gardisil vaccine. Fine; but why doesn’t NBC or the other major media perform the same service when anti-vaccine quackery comes from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. or Jenny McCarthy? No mystery here.


  14. Speranza
    14 | September 14, 2011 11:58 am

    And then Sarah joined the Perry pile-on on Greta Monday night.

    Both of them: dead to me.


  15. 15 | September 14, 2011 5:23 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    And then Sarah joined the Perry pile-on on Greta Monday night.
    Both of them: dead to me.

    I’m growing rather weary of Sarah, myself. I mean, I like the lady, really I do, but I don’t consider it necessary for her to comment on everything currently at issue in the arena. I’m likewise growing weary of the speculation that she’s going to enter the race. I hope she doesn’t, because like it or not, she’s a polarizing figure and skews negative in the polls.


  16. Speranza
    16 | September 14, 2011 7:26 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    I’m likewise growing weary of the speculation that she’s going to enter the race. I hope she doesn’t, because like it or not, she’s a polarizing figure and skews negative in the polls.

    Her polling even amongst Republicans has too many negatives. In 2008 she was a breath of fresh air, three years later she is rather stale.


  17. orangecrush
    17 | September 14, 2011 8:14 pm

    Ha bachman vaccinations has theblogmocracy as the number 2 result in Google.


  18. orangecrush
    18 | September 14, 2011 8:30 pm

    Vaccine Safety and Vaccine Intelligence should be the focus. Whooping cough is a horrible disease for a kid to get when a vaccination is available. The first step towards vaccine safety will be government transparency. else there will always be disbelievers. but it will be like convincing troofers that steel melts. but the government case for vaccinations and their risk should be very upfront with money made as a side issue


  19. 19 | September 14, 2011 11:25 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    WHo selected Bachmann a Tea Party voice? What values does she share? She’s an angry bitter woman.

    Who selected Rick Perry as a Tea Party voice? Who selected Marco Rubio or Allen West as a Tea Party voice? The same people who selected Michele Bachmann as a Tea Party voice: Tea Partiers!


  20. 20 | September 14, 2011 11:27 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:
    I’m likewise growing weary of the speculation that she’s going to enter the race. I hope she doesn’t, because like it or not, she’s a polarizing figure and skews negative in the polls.
    Her polling even amongst Republicans has too many negatives. In 2008 she was a breath of fresh air, three years later she is rather stale.

    It would be nice if either of you could give me a real reason for why Sarah shouldn’t run in 2012. Poll results and personal feelings don’t make good reasons.


  21. 21 | September 15, 2011 11:54 am

    I’m glad Bachmann is in the HoR and I hope she stays there for a long time to come. :-) (that’s me practicing saying something a little unpleasant like “I don’t really want her as the GOP Presidential Candidate” while not being unpleasant. how’d I do?)

    My opinion was solidified when she blathered on about how horrible to force 12 year old little girls to get a vaccine but she just had to refer to it as “an injection into their bodies”. So, she doesn’t want to help protect these little girls from Cervical Cancer later in life? Well, God forbid one of Bachmanns daughters gets cervical cancer later and then she gets to explain to the now grown and likely to be infertile young woman why her own mother failed to protect her when a vaccine was available. This is a losing proposition and she hung herself with it by doubling down and saying (paraphrase) that some woman she’d never met before told her that her daughter got mental retardation from the vaccine. really? come on.


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