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Implosion 101: It Begins!

by Flyovercountry ( 114 Comments › )
Filed under Uncategorized at September 16th, 2011 - 5:00 pm


So I saw this little baby in the New York Times today, and it is nothing short of the death knell for the Obama Presidency. There are 21 Democrats and 2 Independents up for reelection in the Senate in 2012.  Both independents caucus with the Democrats.  Of those 23, no fewer than 20 are opposing the President’s long awaited, and by the way still not submitted, American Jobs Bill.  It is no secret to anyone with a functioning brain cell that this entire piece of Kabuki Theater which is masquerading as an economic agenda item is nothing more than a campaign ploy.  As a matter of fact, the DNC rushed a 2012 campaign ad to T.V. even before the bill itself was submitted for perusal.

The strategy was to look like this.  It was going to pit our brave Dear Leader against an obstructionist House controlled by evil Republicans who are out to ruin the lives of everyone not earning over $250,000 per year.  This is the only campaign strategy left for the Hopety Change bunch, since their record is the only thing which can be construed as shovel ready.   When an incumbent needs the conversation to be anything but what he has been doing for the past 4 years, attacking someone else and fixing blame is all that is left.  That means that an Obama Campaign which began in earnest this past week will be treating us all to some of the most impressive straw man arguments, ad hominem attacks, and feats of logical gymnastics worthy of gold medal consideration.  The country has limited patience for everything being George W. Bush’s fault anymore, that meme is old and busted.  That doesn’t leave much, as the Republicans actually control precious little on a National level.  Enter the Jobs bill which proposes taking $447 Billion and lighting it on fire.  Obama assured us over and over again that there was nothing in it which anyone could possibly object to.  He admonished Congress to, “pass the bill,” no fewer than 125 times in the last 6 days.  He assured us that it was already paid for.  Something funny happened on the way to Congress with the bill though.  It still hasn’t made it there.  Why, you may ask?  Well, it was never designed to be passed anyhow.  It is designed to never pass, and to be used as a wedge issue during the upcoming election.

The problem for the Bamster however is with the folks in his own party.

WASHINGTON — President Obama anticipated Republican resistance to his jobs program, but he is now meeting increasing pushback from his own party. Many Congressional Democrats, smarting from the fallout over the 2009 stimulus bill, say there is little chance they will be able to support the bill as a single entity, citing an array of elements they cannot abide.
“I think the American people are very skeptical of big pieces of legislation,” Senator Bob Casey, a Democrat from Pennsylvania, said in an interview Wednesday, joining a growing chorus of Democrats who prefer an à la carte version of the bill despite White House resistance to that approach. “For that reason alone I think we should break it up.”

Later on in the article we get to the heart of the matter.

 There are also Democrats, some of them senators up for election in 2012, who oppose the bill simply for its mental connection to the stimulus bill, which laid at least part of the foundation for the Republican takeover of the House in 2010.“I have serious questions about the level of spending that President Obama proposed,” said Senator Joe Manchin III, a Democrat from West Virginia, in a statement issued right after Mr. Obama spoke to a joint session of Congress last week.

A campaign strategy of me against the evil obstructionist Republicans only works if you have the support of your own party.  The message being given to President Obama right now is that the members of his party are not willing to sacrifice them selves for the greater glory of Dear Leader again.  Many of the Democrat Senators elected in 2006 ran as conservative Democrats.  They, to date, have governed as Socialists, and their constituency is hopping mad.  They ignored the voters during the tumultuous town hall meetings of 2009, and they saw the effect of that bit of genius played out during the elections of 2010.  This bunch of Senators did not have to face voters in 2010, but they watched 7 of 16 lose their seats,  What New York 9 told them, and told them loudly, is that Americans have had enough of the great experiment with Communism to start this decade.  The Senatorial Democrats have just removed the only strategy President Obama had with which to campaign on.  His soaring rhetoric, as of now have become the death gasp rattlings of the bad guys in monster movies.  He has greatly damaged the Democrat Party for years to come.  It will be decades hopefully, before anyone falls for the fiscally conservative Democrat ploy again.

The last President to overtly lose the support of his party in Congress was Jimmy Carter, a fitting tribute don’t you think.  He has given us the same exact policies as Carter, and we have reaped the same exact results as Carter.  When will we learn?  Hopefully we have conducted our last experiment with leftist ideology, it has damn near bankrupted us this time around.

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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  1. Bumr50
    1 | September 16, 2011 5:07 pm

    Get ready for many more “flash mobs.”

    It’s their new mobilization effort.


  2. buzzsawmonkey
    2 | September 16, 2011 5:13 pm

    Do You Love Me?
    —with apologies to the Contours and “Do You Love Me (Now That I Can Dance?)“

    You broke my heart
    Because you said
    I took too much time off
    But now I’ve got a new jobs bill
    And I’ve got no time for golf

    Do you love me? (Help me pass the bill)
    Do you love me? (Oh, I hope you will)
    Do you love me? (Oh, show you do)
    Now that I’ve got a bill

    Watch me pretend to (Work, work)
    I’m not accustomed to (Work, work)
    You gotta help me to (Work, work)
    Everybody be civil now (Work)

    I’ll get high-speed rail (I’ll get high-speed rail)
    And I’ll fund some green jobs (fund green jobs)
    And I’ll continue to fail (continue to fail)
    To condemn flash mobs (to condemn flash mobs)
    Tell me (tell me)
    Tell me

    Do you love me? (Help me pass the bill)
    Do you love me? (Oh, I hope you will)
    Do you love me? (Oh, show you do)
    Now that I’ve got a bill

    Yes I’m pretending to (Work, work)
    I’m not accustomed to (Work, work)
    You gotta help me to (Work, work)
    Everybody be civil now (Work)

    (Work, work)

    I can fake it, fake it baby (Work, work)
    Election? Gonna take it, baby (Work, work)
    Who said I was lazy? (Work)

    I’ll get high-speed rail (I’ll get high-speed rail)
    And I’ll fund some green jobs (fund green jobs)
    And I’ll continue to fail (continue to fail)
    To condemn flash mobs (to condemn flash mobs)
    Tell me (tell me)
    Tell me

    Do you love me? (Help me pass the bill)
    Do you love me? (Oh, I hope you will)
    Do you love me? (Oh, show you do)
    Now that I’ve got a bill

    (Now, now, now)
    (Work, work)

    Watch me pretend to (Work, work)
    I’m not accustomed to (Work, work)
    Everybody be civil now (Work)

    (Work, work)

    I can fake it, fake it baby (Work, work)
    Election? Gonna take it, baby (Work, work)
    Who said I was lazy? (Work)


  3. Bob in Breckenridge
    3 | September 16, 2011 5:23 pm

    He admonished Congress to, “pass the bill,” no fewer than 125 times in the last 6 days.

    Note to Obungler: Last I heard the actual bill hadn’t been written, much less submitted to congress, and thankfully, it’s DOA in the House anyway, and most likely in the Senate. What a dolt!


  4. 4 | September 16, 2011 5:51 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    It’s worse yet than blind incompetence. This was the cornerstone of his entire reelection strategy. His proposal was something he knew the GOP would never go for, and is only a rehash of the same crap he has been slinging since 2007. His plan was to run against the do nothing GOP House and repeat a Truman defeats Dewey moment. Boehner and the rest of the House very meekly came out the next day and made mousy statements of there might be a few things where we can meet middle ground here, knowing full well that this will never happen. In the meantime, his own party in the Senate, and many in the House have completely undercut his entire strategy by saying no way. It’s not just the 20 or so up for reelection in 012 any more either. Now you can add some other Dems to the list as well. The entire Democrat Contingent in Washington might just have well whispered in his ear, GET OUT. New York 9 started the greatest political defection since the Tunguska Blast of 1809, (Ghostbusters reference, in case I got it wrong.)


  5. 5 | September 16, 2011 5:54 pm

    He admonished Congress to, “pass the bill,” no fewer than 125 times in the last 6 days.

    Hey, I got the answer to all of our problems… We just have Obama arrested on Stalking Charges… :twisted:


  6. 6 | September 16, 2011 5:57 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    New York 9 started the greatest political defection since the Tunguska Blast of 1809, (Ghostbusters reference, in case I got it wrong.)

    You didn’t… :grin:


  7. huckfunn
    7 | September 16, 2011 5:58 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:
    Hey, that avatar is a new look. When BO-hole’s congressional base is crumbling, the lapdog press won’t be far behind. That will be the end.


  8. 8 | September 16, 2011 5:59 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    An I have no idea how it happened either. Fun though!


  9. waldensianspirit
    9 | September 16, 2011 5:59 pm

    What’re those things on either side of his head?


  10. buzzsawmonkey
    10 | September 16, 2011 6:01 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    What’re those things on either side of his head?

    Mussel shells.


  11. huckfunn
    11 | September 16, 2011 6:01 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    He admonished Congress to, “pass the bill,” no fewer than 125 times in the last 6 days.

    Hey, I got the answer to all of our problems… We just have Obama arrested on Stalking Charges…

    I’ve forwarded yer post to ATTAAAAACKKK-ACK-ACK-WAAAATCH.


  12. waldensianspirit
  13. Bumr50
    13 | September 16, 2011 6:03 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Tunguska

    Alan Parsons & Shpongle -- Return to Tunguska
    w/ David Gilmour on guitar


  14. waldensianspirit
    14 | September 16, 2011 6:04 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Mussel shells.

    Ah, they’ll become the fashion rage!


  15. huckfunn
    15 | September 16, 2011 6:08 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    An I have no idea how it happened either. Fun though!

    It could be related to a recent email event. Same thing happened to me several weeks ago. My avatar got changed to one of those squiggly things. I had to change my Word Press password.


  16. 16 | September 16, 2011 6:09 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Liberal group files ethics complaint against Darrell Issa

    We need a law that says if you file an ethics complaint that turns out to be false and or frivolous, that the individual or individuals that filed that ethics complaint go to jail.


  17. waldensianspirit
    17 | September 16, 2011 6:09 pm

    Book: Women in Obama White House felt excluded and ignored via drudge


  18. Bumr50
    18 | September 16, 2011 6:11 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Even VJ and Moo-chelle?


  19. 19 | September 16, 2011 6:19 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Liberal group files ethics complaint against Darrell Issa

    We need a law that says if you file an ethics complaint that turns out to be false and or frivolous, that the individual or individuals that filed that ethics complaint go to jail.

    No Kidding. this kind of bs was what forced Governor Palin to resign, and will probably end up costing her a fair shot at the White House. All of the charges turned out to be bull, and she’s not the only one either. Delay, Gingrich, and any other Right of Center person who dared to stand in the way of the Communists. If Issa is cleared, the people who filed the complaint should do a year in prison for each dollar spent in investigating this nonsense.


  20. m
    20 | September 16, 2011 6:20 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I can hear AND visualize him singing that, lol. Plum perfect.


  21. m
    21 | September 16, 2011 6:25 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    The dolts are the idiots that agree with him. My morning talk radio people even agreed. After listing their top 10 reasons why being broke is good they were all like “who wouldn’t pass a job’s bill?”.

    Dumbasses.

    Ok so I flipped to another station… next morning talk radio peeps were talking about the Sarah Palin “affair” (before she was married) and dude said “Well, she just lost the tea party vote because she’s been with a black man”.

    I’m sure Hermain Cain and Allen West are pissed Sarah Palin has been with a black man, so I guess there’s 2 votes lost already.

    /


  22. m
    22 | September 16, 2011 6:25 pm

    Of course the next step was to hook up the ipod.


  23. m
    23 | September 16, 2011 6:35 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    No doubt. AND they pay all costs associated.


  24. 24 | September 16, 2011 6:37 pm

    What would Earth be like with two suns?

    Worlds with Double Sunsets Common
    After discussing his future plans with his Uncle Owen, Luke Skywalker leaves the Lars Homestead and heads towards the vista to watch the twin suns of Tatooine set while he reflects upon his destiny. © Lucasfilm Ltd. & TM. All Rights Reserved.
    CREDIT:
    View full size image

    Astronomers have just discovered the first “circumbinary planet.” Like Luke Skywalker’s home planet of Tatooine in the “Star Wars” films, this strange world, labeled Kepler-16b, orbits two closely spaced suns.

    What would such a planet be like? For that matter, what if Earth had two suns instead of one? Alan Boss, an astrophysicist at the Carnegie Institution for Science in Washington, D.C., is a member of the Kepler-16b discovery team. He describes the scenery on the Tatooine-like planet, and how Earth would fare in such a binary star system.

    First off, on Kepler-16b “it’s a little frosty,” Boss said. “Though it is closer to its stars than Earth is to the sun, the stars aren’t quite so bright, so the temperature of this planet would only be about 200 Kelvin,” or nearly minus-100 Fahrenheit.

    Earth would be even chillier under the same stellar circumstances. “If you replaced our sun with those stars, we would be even colder than 200 Kelvin, because we’re farther out than this Tatooine-like planet,” he told Life’s Little Mysteries, a sister site to SPACE.com.

    In such a frigid environment, all Earth’s water would be frozen, and Boss strongly doubts life would have arisen here. Earth under two suns “is not a habitable planet — unless you had an advanced life form that originated elsewhere that could keep itself warm.”

    Orbiting these two stars, Earth’s year would be longer than 365 days, he said, but not by much: “One star in the [Kepler] binary system has a mass 20 percent of the mass of the sun, and the other is 70 percent the mass of the sun. Together their masses only differ from our sun by 10 percent. This would make the year on Earth slightly longer, because the gravity of the stars pulling us inward would be lower, so there’s less centrifugal force and we would orbit around slower,” Boss said.

    Perhaps the best aspect of a circumbinary planet would be the view. Boss said the sunset on Kepler-16b or a circumbinary Earth would look very much like the fictional Tatooine sunset in “Star Wars IV: A New Hope.” “In that film, Luke looks up and sees the two stars setting. They would not be quite so large in the sky as in the film, but you would see two differently colored stars close together without touching.

    If this is what passes for scientists these days, it no damned wonder we haven’t gone back to the moon.

    a) Such a planet would be in orbit around either one or the other star not orbiting both. Even the closest binary stars orbit each other about a quarter of a light year apart, that’s about 100 times greater distance than the furthest plant orbiting a star orbits it’s star.

    b) slightly under on half of the planets solar year would be spent in-between both stars, the more distant star would rise and during the half of the year that the planet was in-between both stars and slow cross the horizon from east to west, or west to east. During the half a year that the planet was in-between both stars it would have a day star, the star the planet orbited, and a night star, the star orbiting it primary star. The planet environmental temperature would depend on how close it was to it’s primary star, and how much solar radiation it received from it’s secondary star during it’s in-between phase.


  25. Bob in Breckenridge
    25 | September 16, 2011 6:44 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Book: Women in Obama White House felt excluded and ignored via drudge

    If I was woman, I’d think that was a good thing.


  26. Bob in Breckenridge
    26 | September 16, 2011 6:44 pm

    Bob in Breckenridge wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Book: Women in Obama White House felt excluded and ignored via drudge

    If I was a woman, I’d think that was a good thing.

    pimf


  27. 27 | September 16, 2011 6:48 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    But, they saw it on Star Trek, so it must be true!


  28. Guggi
    28 | September 16, 2011 6:49 pm

    President Obama’s support is eroding among elements of his base and a yearlong effort to recapture the political center has failed to attract independent voters, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

    The president’s effort to seize the initiative on the economy was well received by the public. But despite Mr. Obama’s campaign to sell the plan to Congress and voters, nearly half of people said they feared the economy was heading for a double-dip recession, and nearly three-quarters of Americans think the country is on the wrong track.

    Republicans appear more energized than Democrats at the outset of the 2012 presidential campaign, but have not coalesced around a candidate. Even as the party’s nominating contest seems to be narrowing to a two-man race between Mitt Romney and Gov. Rick Perry of Texas, a majority of their respective supporters say they have reservations. Half of Republicans who plan to vote in the primary say they would like more choices.

    Source: NYT

    Job plan well received ? Are they serious ?


  29. Bob in Breckenridge
    29 | September 16, 2011 6:50 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Two suns? Imagine the gore-bull warming we’d have then. Kazillions would be incinerated!


  30. Bob in Breckenridge
    30 | September 16, 2011 6:53 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    President Obama’s support is eroding among elements of his base and a yearlong effort to recapture the political center has failed to attract independent voters, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.
    The president’s effort to seize the initiative on the economy was well received by the public. But despite Mr. Obama’s campaign to sell the plan to Congress and voters, nearly half of people said they feared the economy was heading for a double-dip recession, and nearly three-quarters of Americans think the country is on the wrong track.
    Republicans appear more energized than Democrats at the outset of the 2012 presidential campaign, but have not coalesced around a candidate. Even as the party’s nominating contest seems to be narrowing to a two-man race between Mitt Romney and Gov. Rick Perry of Texas, a majority of their respective supporters say they have reservations. Half of Republicans who plan to vote in the primary say they would like more choices.
    Source: NYT
    Job plan well received ? Are they serious ?

    You gotta understand. To the libturds at the New York Slimes, the “public” consists of the upper west side of Manhattan.


  31. Bob in Breckenridge
    31 | September 16, 2011 6:56 pm

    I’m going to sue the Travel Channel for false advertising. They’re showing a program about Sasquatch, and not once have they shown Moo-chelle Obungler.


  32. 32 | September 16, 2011 6:58 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Nope – the reports quote the spokesman as saying the stars eclipse each other but the planet eclipses them serially. it has to be orbiting both. Or at least that’s what the boys at Carnegie Mellon say. The paper is to appear in Science.


  33. Guggi
    33 | September 16, 2011 6:59 pm

    Optimists Were Wrong About the Arab Spring

    There’s a reason that hatred of Israel played well on the Arab street

    I wasn’t alone, but the mea culpa is all mine. Like many, I thought that dawn was finally breaking over the Arab world when those nice, middle-class crowds thronged Cairo’s Tahrir Square chanting “freedom” and “democracy” without burning American and Israeli flags. What a miracle, I mused: The dogs of hate are not barking. And what a wondrous moment of transcendence! Free the people, and they will free themselves from the obsession of anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism their overlords had implanted to distract them from misery and oppression.

    It was a false dawn—and not only because of the sacking of the Israeli embassy in Cairo last week. On my desk sits a Reuters photo dated May 13; the caption reads: “People burn an Israeli flag during a demonstration on Tahrir Square.” There were no such symbols of “Arab rage” when the protests erupted in late January.

    The demons of yore are back and presumably they have never left. The Friday demonstration on Tahrir Square was at first standard fare—yet another protest against the military regime. But at the end, several thousands armed with Palestinian flags, crowbars and hammers marched off to the Israeli embassy for a bit of deconstructionist work.

    But there is more. For six hours, desperate Israeli leaders tried to contact the junta; its leader Field Marshall Tantawi refused to speak with either the Israeli prime minister or his defense minister. It took another seven hours before Egyptian security forces rescued the last Israeli—perhaps only because Washington had interceded in the meantime.
    The moral of this tale is simple. The revolution isn’t going anywhere, and life is as miserable as always. So how about a little pogrom? It wasn’t the junta that invented this stratagem, but our good friend Hosni Mubarak now fighting for his life in a Cairo courtroom.

    Snip


  34. 34 | September 16, 2011 7:00 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:


  35. 35 | September 16, 2011 7:04 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Shocking! who would have predicted it, but everyone here at the Blogmocracy?


  36. 36 | September 16, 2011 7:08 pm

    @ Guggi:

    That Popular Uprising!


  37. Lily
    37 | September 16, 2011 7:13 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    He admonished Congress to, “pass the bill,” no fewer than 125 times in the last 6 days.

    Hey, I got the answer to all of our problems… We just have Obama arrested on Stalking Charges…

    What a quaint idea! Because 125 times in 6 days is certainly stalking!
    If someone called you that many times in 6 days they would have an iron clad cause! :)


  38. Guggi
    38 | September 16, 2011 7:14 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    That Popular Uprising!

    A good article here

    Setting Egypt on fire

    Snip

    Thus, the problem with regards to what is happening in Egypt is the notable absence of rationality and a failure to prioritize the interests of the state, alongside the remarkable absence of rational voices from political leaders, who are yet to speak clearly to alert everyone of the necessity not to drag Egypt into chaos. It is clear, unfortunately, that many Egyptian political leaders are more interested in their political futures than the future of Egypt, and the safety of the state as a whole. This doesn’t relate to politicians only, for anyone following the Egyptian press, and the unfair, organized campaigns it has directed against some Arab countries, would believe that Egypt’s problems are external only. Yet the fact is that Egypt’s problems are purely internal, most notably relating to the dimension of realism and prudence. The Egyptian revolution is without a head, and the demonstrations every Friday are without real demands, they are inflammatory rather than realistic; based on slogans rather than seeking to make a real difference. Despite that, all demonstrations enjoy the courtesy of the media and the elite, without posing the simple question which is: In what direction is Egypt heading? Overthrowing the Mubarak regime is not the most important achievement, but rather identifying and correcting Egypt’s course is the ultimate goal.

    In Egypt today, the problem is that there is no place to put forward reasoned and serious questions. Rather, Egypt is a chaotic – mistakenly labeled revolutionary – state, ready to blame all troubles on foreign entities. It is unfortunate that some in Egypt are either busy looking out for their self-interests or maintaining a negative silence, alongside the presence of an emotionally-charged, but not sincere, media institution. This is despite the existence of an organized effort to set Egypt ablaze!

    So, as I always say: May God help Egypt, for the sake of all Egyptians!


  39. Nevergiveup
    39 | September 16, 2011 7:16 pm

    Evening all


  40. Lily
    40 | September 16, 2011 7:17 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Book: Women in Obama White House felt excluded and ignored via drudge

    No wonder Hillary is done with him…..the floor is literally crumbling beneath his feet. Love it.
    He is so much worse than Carter…..that there says something.


  41. RIX
    42 | September 16, 2011 7:21 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    That Popular Uprising!

    McCains heroes.


  42. Nevergiveup
    43 | September 16, 2011 7:25 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Smoke Signals

    U.S. abandonment of the old Middle East order has led to provocations against Israel, which are likely to intensify after the Palestinian statehood vote

    Abbas is quoted today as saying they are going for full statehood at the in because that is what Obama clalled for last year. Words have consequences just like elections


  43. 44 | September 16, 2011 7:28 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    How do good sir?


  44. RIX
    45 | September 16, 2011 7:28 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Abbas is quoted today as saying they are going for full statehood at the in because that is what Obama clalled for last year. Words have consequences just like elections

    Personally, I don’t think that Obama favors a two stste
    strategy as the ultimate solution.
    I am convinced that he would like to see Israel just
    disapper


  45. Lily
    46 | September 16, 2011 7:29 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Guggi wrote:

    Smoke Signals

    U.S. abandonment of the old Middle East order has led to provocations against Israel, which are likely to intensify after the Palestinian statehood vote

    Abbas is quoted today as saying they are going for full statehood at the in because that is what Obama clalled for last year. Words have consequences just like elections

    Obama owns this so-called ‘Arab Spring’!
    Working out so well isn’t it?///////

    Bho whatever he touches turns to evil or dust.
    Dems are running away from him…in fact most everyone is running away from him…except for the select blooming idiots.


  46. Guggi
    47 | September 16, 2011 7:30 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    From the link above:

    Snip

    From an American perspective, the problem with the Obama Administration is not that it lacks the natural warmth for the Jewish state that Bill Clinton and second Bush White Houses radiated. Rather, it is that it does not understand the rules of the game it is playing—chess—and so is incapable of assessing the value of the queen, Israel.

    Obama came to office with the idea that what mattered was not the game but real movement on the peace process, resulting in the establishment of a Palestinian state. He believed the experts when they said that he had to go hard on the Israelis. In reality, the sticking point for Netanyahu and the right was never really, or not only, that they couldn’t stop settlement construction, but rather that the Israeli electorate had lost patience with phony talk about peace and was no longer willing to indulge the fantasies of American politicians at the price of their own lives. The sentiments of Israeli voters may change in the short term, or it may take much longer. But right now their memories are still bright with the images of rockets being shot from the lands they voluntarily gave up in the vain hope of peace. Any Israeli leader who tried to give up the West Bank after the experiences with Lebanon and Gaza would be committing political suicide.

    That doesn’t mean there’s no game. It just means that the chessboard looks entirely different now that it did five or 10 years ago. Once the White House cornered both Abbas and Netanyahu, leaving neither man any room to maneuver, the result was not a swift march toward peace. Rather, the Americans lost control of the board: Netanyahu balked. The Palestinians decided to go to the United Nations to declare their state. Post-Mubarak Egypt brokered a reconciliation deal between Hamas and Fatah. Turkey moved against Israel to advance its own position. And Arab states like Saudi Arabia and Jordan, which had been quietly praying that the storms of the Arab Spring might pass them over, came out to sound off against the Israelis.

    Despite all evidence to the contrary, including the testimony of Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah and other regional leaders who wanted Obama to focus on Iran, the White House believed that the region’s central issue was the Arab-Israeli crisis and the obstacle was Israeli intransigence. With the arrival of the Arab Spring, Washington’s experts were proven decisively wrong. As the Arab Spring turns into a long, hot summer, shaken rulers like Bashar al-Assad of Syria, the mullahs in Iran, and their clients in Lebanon will also look to stir up trouble for Israel in the hopes of distracting their people from the problems at home.

    Snip


  47. m
    48 | September 16, 2011 7:30 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    On FOX today they (paleos) were talking about how Obama has failed them and they were going to have to take matters into their own hands.

    :roll:

    Give me a break. He’s a cheerleader for their genocidal cause.


  48. Bumr50
    49 | September 16, 2011 7:31 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Can we just never speak of him again once he’s out of office?

    Have a national shunning?


  49. m
    50 | September 16, 2011 7:31 pm

    @ RIX:

    The two-state is the first-step to that.


  50. Lily
    51 | September 16, 2011 7:33 pm

    @ Guggi:

    With obama at the helm I am not surprised we lost control of the board. The man probably can’t even play checkers much less chess.


  51. Nevergiveup
    52 | September 16, 2011 7:34 pm

    I’m in this pretty filthy comfort inn that some civilian organization put me in. I’m getting paid to do some dentistry for the army. All,and I mean all, the military hotels I ‘ve been in have been pretty spotless. My skin is crawling


  52. Lily
    53 | September 16, 2011 7:34 pm

    m wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    On FOX today they (paleos) were talking about how Obama has failed them and they were going to have to take matters into their own hands.

    Give me a break. He’s a cheerleader for their genocidal cause.

    No kidding!!! And they want more!
    bho has disgraced us around the world.


  53. m
    54 | September 16, 2011 7:34 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Once the White House cornered both Abbas and Netanyahu

    How in the world did he corner Abbas?


  54. RIX
    55 | September 16, 2011 7:35 pm

    @ m:

    Nevergiveup:

    On FOX today they (paleos) were talking about how Obama has failed them and they were going to have to take matters into their own hands

    That’s a misdirection, like the Dems saying that they
    are afraid to run aginst Huntsman.
    The Palis know that BHO is their homie & the Dems would
    love to run against Huntsman.


  55. Lily
    56 | September 16, 2011 7:35 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Can we just never speak of him again once he’s out of office?

    Have a national shunning?

    I second that motion! :)


  56. Nevergiveup
    57 | September 16, 2011 7:35 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Can we just never speak of him again once he’s out of office?

    Have a national shunning?

    Sounds like a plan to me


  57. m
    58 | September 16, 2011 7:36 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Ooooh. Good thing you don’t carry around a black light. You’d never get to sleep.


  58. Lily
    59 | September 16, 2011 7:37 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    I’m in this pretty filthy comfort inn that some civilian organization put me in. I’m getting paid to do some dentistry for the army. All,and I mean all, the military hotels I ‘ve been in have been pretty spotless. My skin is crawling

    Eek! Sorry to hear that!


  59. RIX
    60 | September 16, 2011 7:38 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    I stayed in a Comfort Inn in Fondulac Wisconsin.
    The place was filthy & there were some serious crtters
    scurrying around.


  60. Nevergiveup
    61 | September 16, 2011 7:39 pm

    m wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Ooooh. Good thing you don’t carry around a black light. You’d never get to sleep.

    The thought crossed my mind


  61. 62 | September 16, 2011 7:39 pm

    No one has even introduced it in the House yet, which has led to one of the funniest moments of the week, when Louis Gohmert of Texas went ahead and introduced his two-page bill cutting the corporate income tax by 35% and stole Obama’s bill title, calling it the “American Jobs Act.”

    Reid’s too busy amending a badly needed FAA bill to include shit for bike trails to PASS THE BILL NOW!


  62. Lily
    63 | September 16, 2011 7:39 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Can we just never speak of him again once he’s out of office?

    Have a national shunning?

    Sounds like a plan to me

    If his name is ever mentioned we could say, “I’m sorry I don’t understand the question!”


  63. Nevergiveup
    64 | September 16, 2011 7:40 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    I stayed in a Comfort Inn in Fondulac Wisconsin.
    The place was filthy & there were some serious crtters
    scurrying around.

    I might sleep in my car and just shower here in the am


  64. Lily
    65 | September 16, 2011 7:41 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    I stayed in a Comfort Inn in Fondulac Wisconsin.
    The place was filthy & there were some serious crtters
    scurrying around.

    I might sleep in my car and just shower here in the am

    It’s that bad? You might be safer in the car!


  65. RIX
    66 | September 16, 2011 7:45 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    I might sleep in my car and just shower here in the am

    I stayed at the Admiral Benbow in Tampa once.
    ‘That’s where United put us when they had a mechanical
    problem.
    In the lounge I was propositioned by a Vietnamese
    hooker & the rooms had vibrating beds.
    I slept on top of the covers with my clothes
    on.
    Dinner, see ya


  66. 67 | September 16, 2011 7:46 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Hey there!


  67. 68 | September 16, 2011 7:46 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    That sucks!


  68. 69 | September 16, 2011 7:49 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    The Obama Regime is collapsing.


  69. mfhorn
    70 | September 16, 2011 7:50 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Contact the hotel chain- you might get some kind of compensation out of it.


  70. Lily
    71 | September 16, 2011 7:50 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Carolina Girl:

    The Obama Regime is collapsing.

    Isn’t it a beautiful thing.
    The bad thing is he will do more damage as he gets more desperate.


  71. 72 | September 16, 2011 7:51 pm

    @ m:

    He viewed Arabs as his peeps.


  72. 73 | September 16, 2011 7:54 pm

    Speaking of jokes, isn’t there supposed to be some kind of national proggie protest this weekend? Poor people were supposed to get a tent and camp out to show how the rich are raping the middle class (I get my buzz words mixed up now and then…)


  73. gulfloafer
    74 | September 16, 2011 7:54 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    Get ready for many more “flash mobs.”
    It’s their new mobilization effort.


  74. Lily
    75 | September 16, 2011 7:54 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ m:

    He viewed Arabs as his peeps.

    Yep and he would stand by them.
    He has never said he would stand up for the U.S. possibly people finally getting the clue bat upside their head and realising he is anti-American? I do hope so.


  75. Nevergiveup
    76 | September 16, 2011 7:54 pm

    mfhorn wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Contact the hotel chain- you might get some kind of compensation out of it.

    What I want to get out of it is disease free. At least I am not paying for the room. There is a double tree next door. We’ll see


  76. 77 | September 16, 2011 7:55 pm

    @ Lily:
    \
    I hope the whole Progressive movement collapses.


  77. 78 | September 16, 2011 7:55 pm

    This information must be pretty disheartening for the progressives. It is allowing us to actually show people what they are all about. They have nothing left but all out war now. Someone postulated that the progressives are actually considering things as drastic as suspending the constitution and delaying the elections because of a disaster they are trying to think up. Anyone heard anything like this?


  78. Lily
    79 | September 16, 2011 7:57 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:
    \
    I hope the whole Progressive movement collapses.

    So do I. People, average people are getting fed up with their crap!


  79. 80 | September 16, 2011 7:57 pm

    @ Lily:

    He’s on their side.


  80. 81 | September 16, 2011 7:58 pm

    @ Lily:

    They are Elitists and seek to dictate how to live.


  81. gulfloafer
    82 | September 16, 2011 7:58 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    I stayed in a Comfort Inn in Fondulac Wisconsin.
    The place was filthy & there were some serious crtters
    scurrying around.

    I’m not a street walker but I did stay at a Comfort Inn last night.


  82. Lily
    83 | September 16, 2011 7:58 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    mfhorn wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Contact the hotel chain- you might get some kind of compensation out of it.

    What I want to get out of it is disease free. At least I am not paying for the room. There is a double tree next door. We’ll see

    You know what …. I would go to the Double Tree even if it is out of my pocket…but look at the room first before committing! ;)


  83. 84 | September 16, 2011 7:59 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    I’m in this pretty filthy comfort inn that some civilian organization put me in. I’m getting paid to do some dentistry for the army. All,and I mean all, the military hotels I ‘ve been in have been pretty spotless. My skin is crawling

    At least you’re not a Marine. Marines would be sleeping in their trucks.

    My wife had a bad experience with Days Inn earlier this year. After that I think I have finally convinced her that being frugal is fine, but we CAN afford a good hotel.


  84. Lily
    85 | September 16, 2011 8:00 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    He’s on their side.

    Oh indeed he is…and it isn’t excatly working out too well for him in fly-over country.


  85. 86 | September 16, 2011 8:00 pm

    Liberty and Prosperity. If our leaders/politicians are not trying to increase our liberty and prosperity, then they are against us.


  86. Bumr50
    87 | September 16, 2011 8:01 pm

    Econo-Lodge?


  87. randian
    88 | September 16, 2011 8:01 pm

    If Obama wants jobs, why not repeal the Federal corporate income tax in its entirety? That would be less expensive than his proposed “jobs” bill.


  88. Lily
    89 | September 16, 2011 8:02 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    They are Elitists and seek to dictate how to live.

    Need to push them to the fringe! Most people I know are sick of being told by gov what we can and cannot do, as far as light bulbs, and food. Get a life…and stay out of ours!!!


  89. 90 | September 16, 2011 8:04 pm

    @ Lily:

    They need to get put in their place.


  90. gulfloafer
    91 | September 16, 2011 8:05 pm

    randian wrote:

    If Obama wants jobs, why not repeal the Federal corporate income tax in its entirety? That would be less expensive than his proposed “jobs” bill.

    And probably set off an economic boom the likes of which this planet has never seen. You’re making too much sense, where did you come from anyway?


  91. Lily
    92 | September 16, 2011 8:06 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    They need to get put in their place.

    Oh indeed. Like put them in country they so love, which isn’t ours.
    Like Saudi….they should love it there or Egypt since it is in the ‘Arab Spring’ mode right now!


  92. gulfloafer
    93 | September 16, 2011 8:07 pm

    @ Lily:

    Most people I know are sick of being told by gov what we can and cannot do, as far as light bulbs, and food. Get a life…and stay out of ours!!!

    Amen Lily!


  93. 94 | September 16, 2011 8:07 pm

    @ gulfloafer:

    That’s why it will not happen!


  94. Bumr50
    95 | September 16, 2011 8:08 pm

    @ father_of_10:

    The last time I was in a Comfort Inn it was in Toledo, Ohio. Work put us up there.

    Toledo is a hellhole as it is, but this particular Comfort Inn, aside from being stinky, stainy, and buggy was across the road from –

    - a prison

    - a horse track

    - a nudie bar.

    I moved my car right underneath the window.


  95. gulfloafer
    96 | September 16, 2011 8:08 pm

    @ Rodan:
    What’s up old man? How’s Fla treating you?


  96. livefreeor die
    97 | September 16, 2011 8:08 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ Carolina Girl:
    The Obama Regime is collapsing.
    Isn’t it a beautiful thing.
    The bad thing is he will do more damage as he gets more desperate.

    I agree. He might just throw Israel to the wolves to get “even” for NY9.


  97. Lily
    98 | September 16, 2011 8:12 pm

    livefreeor die wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ Carolina Girl:
    The Obama Regime is collapsing.
    Isn’t it a beautiful thing.
    The bad thing is he will do more damage as he gets more desperate.

    I agree. He might just throw Israel to the wolves to get “even” for NY9.

    He does stab anyone or company or country in the back that doesn’t ‘love him’ or agree with him. He will throw a huge tantram that a 2 year old would envy. I do not under estimate him at all when it comes to hurting our country or another country.


  98. 99 | September 16, 2011 8:13 pm

    @ Guggi:
    @ Rodan:

    Guess I don’t have to repeat the lyrics to the Muslim National Anthem! 8)


  99. Lily
    100 | September 16, 2011 8:14 pm

    Nite all! Hope you have a good evening!!!


  100. 101 | September 16, 2011 8:14 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    I’m in this pretty filthy comfort inn that some civilian organization put me in. I’m getting paid to do some dentistry for the army. All,and I mean all, the military hotels I ‘ve been in have been pretty spotless. My skin is crawling

    The “Del Monte Hotel” in the naval post-graduate school in Monterey CA is really nice. Clean, antique rooms.


  101. gulfloafer
    102 | September 16, 2011 8:19 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ gulfloafer:
    That’s why it will not happen!

    Be optimistic my friend. The Sun is still the best disinfectant and we’re beginning to see it work it’s magic. The poltical winds aren’t just changing it’s becoming a tempest. The classical liberals of yore and todays conservatives are now very much the same. One word … cycles. Keep your house.


  102. Bumr50
    103 | September 16, 2011 8:22 pm

    Anyone else watching Boise St. v. Toledo?


  103. yenta-fada
    104 | September 16, 2011 8:24 pm

    If anyone is watching Europe and the debt problems, here’s a neat graphic from Reuters which shows how much comparative debt is held by other European countries.

    http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/11/07/EZ_BNKEXP0711_SB.html


  104. yenta-fada
    105 | September 16, 2011 8:25 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    Anyone else watching Boise St. v. Toledo?

    I don’t think we get that one!


  105. 106 | September 16, 2011 8:27 pm

    @ father_of_10:

    All out Chaos if this happens. There is no way in Hell Americans would go for this, No Way.


  106. gulfloafer
    107 | September 16, 2011 8:30 pm

    Shit! Plane crashed into grand stands in Reno!


  107. gulfloafer
    108 | September 16, 2011 8:34 pm

    In other news, selrahC is still a douche.


  108. 109 | September 16, 2011 8:39 pm

    @ gulfloafer:

    Dooing good! We have the dry heat now, little humidity.


  109. 110 | September 16, 2011 8:39 pm

    New Thread.


  110. Brick
    111 | September 16, 2011 8:41 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    This information must be pretty disheartening for the progressives. It is allowing us to actually show people what they are all about. They have nothing left but all out war now. Someone postulated that the progressives are actually considering things as drastic as suspending the constitution and delaying the elections because of a disaster they are trying to think up. Anyone heard anything like this?

    I’ve heard this bandied about a few times here and there, but don’t consider it a likely scenario. Next time you hear it, ask the person, “If the Constitution of the United States of America is “suspended”, under what legitimate authority would the Federal government be acting?”


  111. 112 | September 16, 2011 8:51 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    Anyone else watching Boise St. v. Toledo?

    Go Boise!

    One of my kids go there.


  112. sablegsd
    113 | September 16, 2011 10:38 pm

    @ Lily:

    I read he spammed the inboxes of the reporters too.


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