Tonight the GOP Presidential Debates will be held at Oakland University in Rochester, Michigan. The CNBC “Your Money, Your Vote” debate will last for 90 minutes. CNBC should live stream, and here is a handy dandy channel finder as well.
Participants: Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman, Ron Paul, Rick Perry, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum
On the issues: Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman, Ron Paul, Rick Perry, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum
(Funny thing, everyone has an “issues” page but Newt has a “solutions” page, lol)
Tags: Herman Cain, Jon Huntsman, Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Ron Paul
your money your vote? wait I thought this was the republ…
nevermind.
No one cares about Italy CNBC.
It’s good to see that CNBC has pulled out all of the stops and gone for maximum crazy. Jim Kramer and his nightly psychotic episode have now been combined with the GOP Dating Game.
Jim Kramer is an ass.
Bumr50 wrote:
no one care about CNBC
Who is the moderator that is yelling at the debaters? They want a true debate, then act like it. I was on the debate team in high school and the rules were really strict.
Bumr50 wrote:
Don’t bet on it…
Italy is too big to let fail and too big to bail out…
Who Is that asshole?
This debate sucks.
@ Bumr50:
What do you expect from the hosts and location?
Macker wrote:
could you be more specific please?
see my 6
@ Dolphin:
That would be Jim Kramer, and that psychotic episode is part of his nightly schtick.
Dolphin wrote:
I am going to let the association between the term “my 6″ & asshole slide, this time…
@ Dolphin:
Jim Kramer
/lurk
I don’t believe they just asked those questions.
CNBC is not live streaming the debate.
But they are live blogging it.
I’m outta luck watching/listening to it until I get home.
brookly red wrote:
good call.
What about the anti-semites Jon… like them?
@ Calo:
Not missing much.
/lurk
@ brookly red:
That kid at Subway really f*cked up my 6″ Italian. A*shole.
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This debate sucks more than the last time I said this.
sorry to go off topic so early but OMG
http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/news/elderly-man-raped-socorro/nFT9K/
GO NEWT.
@ Flyovercountry:
@ CynicalConservative:
The fact that I have to search for these “news” networks says a lot. I cannot tolerate lib/prog news.
@ brookly red:
Lost me on that comment.
This “panel” are a bunch of [Deleted]s!
It isn’t showing nothing for me.
@ coldwarrior:
I am stupid and going off to who/?,
Dolphin wrote:
the ’6 o’clock position or ’6′ is a reference to a cardinal direction in flight from the pilots point of view. a pilots 6 is the rear end of the airplane.
the 12 oclock is straight ahead.
brookly red wrote:
Obammy’s oppressed stormtroopers enforcing social justice… Nothing to see here, move along…
Where are the commercials?
I need a smoke.
I wanna be in the “two Happy Meal bracket.”
Bachman says “Freedom isn’t Free.” Too bad she didn’t utter the rest!
@ Dolphin:
Sorry pad auto correct.
PrincessNatasha wrote:
Oh, so I guess Holder is not going to return my e-mail then…
coldwarrior wrote:
Check your six is also a infantry reference for “check your ass” look behind you.
@ coldwarrior:
Thanks. I think. LOL. I guess I am old and out of touch with the slang/terms.
Where is this debate being held? College and state?
Dolphin wrote:
its from ww2…
damn! you are old!
No live streaming?
It’s the Mitt Romney Show!!
coldwarrior wrote:
beer run…
Joy Behar just tweeted to Bartiromo “Congrats” for asking the Cain question.
I just mouthed off on the new HOA. They’re a bunch of Fascists. I’m not going to those meetings.
@ Rodan:
whats a HOA?
@ coldwarrior:
Well that explains it. My history lessons needs to continue.
@ brookly red:
shutup/// lol
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@ brookly red:
Home Owners Association. They did a power move, booted someone off the board and appointed a crony.
@ brookly red:
hahaha – got one up on you – home owners association.
Have they done any foreign policy questions?
Michele Bachmann’s voice gives me the creeps. At times she seems catatonic.
I think I would prefer Huntsman to Romney.
@ Speranza:
No, except to ask what they would do about Italy.
Cain, Romney, and Perry said nothing, but focus on the domestic economy.
Speranza wrote:
I think this debate is purely about economics.
That’s why it’s being hosted by a business/ financial news network.
The Osprey wrote:
Gotcha!
Ron Paul!
@ Bumr50:
the italian question is economic in nature.
European debt crisis spiralling out of control
Reports that Germany and France have begun talks to break up the eurozone amid fears that Italy will be too big to rescue
Princess Nancy! LOL
Speranza wrote:
That’s Luap Nor to you!
Bumr50 wrote:
Bunga bunga!
@ gizbot7:
Ditto – that was classic.
I love the way some people say Eye-talian.
I noticed that Gingrich likes to play to the crowd by trying to push the questioner around.
Fred Derf wrote:
I agree.
I wouldn’t trust Newton (sic) Gingrich if my life depended on it.
Speranza wrote:
It’s CNBC so its economics.
Rodan wrote:
Huntsman has more honesty and integrity.
@ Bunk X:
For once I agree with Chucklehead.
How long before Bachmann mentions her 23 foster kids?
Let’s see Rick Santorum work in the “I am a social conservative/family values guy” theme into his response.
@ Fred Derf:
Honestly asking – why?
I like Bachmann. She’s very clear and if not POTUS, she’d be a great VP.
Speranza wrote:
Let’s make a friendly wager – my Bachmann foster kids v. Rick’s family values shtick. Loser buys the other one a Dr. Pepper.
Urban Infidel wrote:
She is a figure of ridicule and a gaffe machine for the country. She would not bring any independents over.
Dolphin wrote:
He does not pretend to be something he is not. He is a Bush “compassionate conservative” and Romney I believe is even more liberal then anyone one the stage right now.
Bachmann’s statement about Gardasil causing mental retardation showed me she is not a serious person but an impetuous one. Just my opinion.
@ Speranza:
I forgot about that. She does not have a good staff that’s for sure.
Too many people on stage and Santorum talks a mile a minute.
Fred Derf wrote:
You’re on! Black Cherry soda with pastrami is the best combo!
@ Speranza:
She lost my support with that
@ Fred Derf:
she always creeped me out. i cant put my finger on it and i know that is not a fair way to measure a candidate. just a weird feeling…
waldensianspirit wrote:
It was pure demagoguery.
coldwarrior wrote:
She makes my skin crawl. There I said it. (Ducks).
Fred Derf wrote:
I would prefer anyone up there (except Ron Paul) get the nomination over Romney but if Mitt does get it, I am going to vote for him in the general election. There is too much at stake to stay at home for personal pet peeves or issues. And saying that, I’m not implying you or anyone else would not vote for Romney in the general due to pet peeves or personal issues.
So? I take it other progressives are tired of Pelosi and want her out of their way is why 60 Minutes is going after her?
@ coldwarrior:
ditto.
Runner wrote:
Me too.
coldwarrior wrote:
Me too. I feel bad about it, but there it is. Although, she looks more normal tonight than she usually does.
@ 68 Fred Derf: Huntsman thought is an OBama employee. He is Obama lite. I can’t see any reason to vote for him over OBama.
@ Fred Derf:
@ Speranza:
Yeah. You’re both right, but I just like her as a person. She came off pretty well there for a moment but I know doesn’t have a chance.
Speranza wrote:
I’ve never heard her described as “impetuous” but it’s a perfect fit. I do like some of the things she has said in the past but you are spot on with that description.
Speranza wrote:
I don’t like her and Rick Santorum’s constantly going on and on about social issues when we are facing even worse unemployment in the coming years.
Is Perry stoned? Xanex? This debate and the speech the other day?
I’m not thrilled with an of them. That’s a damn shame, because the Zero is so beatable. WE can not blow this.
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I like what Perry is saying about regulations stifling job creation.
@ Dolphin:
I know. What the hell was that?!
@ Urban Infidel:
Either who?
@ 88 gizbot7: Some aspects of evangelical religion fail the reasonable test when played out across a whole population of voters. I thought Palin did a fairly decent job of carrying her religion through an election cycle. Bachmann I like but while smart she does seem misinformed on some issues to me. Someone like her is going to have to express a strong tolerance for other religious views and communicate that national decisions on abortion etc, will be made on consensus not on her personal religious view. A fair hearing for all.
@ Urban Infidel: They need to talk about John Bolton.
Runner wrote:
She does pretty much all her own research and that is why she mixes up Elvis’s birthday and date of death and Concord New Hampshire with Concord Massachusetts.
@ 64 Speranza: The GoP needs to beat the media up and make a big news story about the beating. The reporters should all be running home whining with their tails between their legs. That is round one of the fight. Win it and then you get to face Obama in Round 3
orangecrush wrote:
I think his foreign policy certainly would be better. Also I do not think he is a radical socialist. However he is not choice for the nomination.
@ gizbot7:
whom ever is giving him direction is leading him in the wrong direction.
orangecrush wrote:
I understand but I want them to show maturity and the ability to handle tough questions. We have to be 3 times better then the Democrats.
We should have a drinking thread based on how many times we hear 9 9 9.
@ 46 Rodan: Grow a beard stubble, raise a huge flag up on your front porch and sit there with your shotgun drinking a beer.
Or paint your place a real loud yellow
@ Fred Derf:
I love 999!!!
@ Speranza:
Wikipedia will do that to ya!
Speranza wrote:
We have to be almost gaffe-free.
Dolphin wrote:
I meant any of the GOP hopefuls up there tonight. I am not excited about any of them.
Bumr50 wrote:
Play it in the lottery.
Niiine Niiine Niiine
WordPress just complemented me and told me i was too quick to post comments. pretty smart software.
@ Urban Infidel:
Not a Cainiac?
I can ‘t find it streaming or audio. My wife has commandeered the TV (yes, we only have one TV) so I’m left to my own devices. Maybe I should get some work done . . . nah.
Runner wrote:
I knew about Lexington and Concord when I was in the 2nd grade.
Fred Derf wrote:
Biden thinks you’re crazy
orangecrush wrote:
Sexual harassment!!!! I’d sue WordPress!!!!
orangecrush wrote:
I get that all the time.
Not everyone belongs in college.
Someone is complaining about paying back 25K in student loans? Gimme a break. I got a neighbor who has 150K in student loan debt.
Another drinking thread – how many times Luap Nor says “constitution”.
@ 33 waldensianspirit: Allred is in this Cain game just to smear him and lay a political slant down against Cain. She has been doing it for years. The GoP should be pressuring her. She does crack under pressure. Make her look silly. Question her integrity often.
I had a Math prof who’d say we need ditch diggers too
@ Speranza:
I’m sure a lot of folks make the mistake of not knowing where those towns are located though. Heck, growing up in Texas we pretty much learned the only history that mattered was Texas history. I think I had as many years of Texas History as I did American History.
Urban Infidel wrote:
I hope he/she did not waste all that money on a Sociology degree.
@ 117 Runner: I did have my hand on my mouse. Maybe i need a Chicago lawyer now.
Runner wrote:
Certain things people should know by rote – the Alamo is in Texas and Lexington and Concord, Plymouth Rock and Bunker Hill are in the Bay State.
@ orangecrush:
Levin would do mop the floor again. Allred won’t come back on his show
Urban Infidel wrote:
Wow! That is severe college loan debt. I’m dreading when my kids reach college age.
Fred Derf wrote:
Agreed. Not everyone is college material. Nothing wrong with having a trade.
Urban Infidel wrote:
Actually trade school is more useful
Speranza wrote:
I lived in Boston for about 6 or 7 years and would not have been able to tell you it’s known as the Bay State. Yikes!
waldensianspirit wrote:
He stole that from Ted Knight’s character “Judge Smails” in “Caddyshack”.
@ Fred Derf:
Quite concur! A good skilled trade gives you economic mobility and most trades cannot be outsourced.
Runner wrote:
I didn’t go to college. I got out of HS and was already working so I got an apartment. I took a couple of classes at Hunter College and paid for it myself, out of my small paycheck. I realized quickly that college was not for me and that I wasn’t going to learn anything there so I went to art school instead. Again, paid for it all myself, all the tuition, art supplies, my living expenses etc, while holding down a full time job. No student loan debt. No wasted time.
Speranza wrote:
/Transgender Studies…
Runner wrote:
I hate the politics but I love Boston.
Perry is imploding on himself. Very sad. And I am not a Perry supporter.
Cain’s every answer is 999!
OMG!
Dolphin wrote:
How is he imploding? I thin he is answering the questions well.
Speranza wrote:
No, she’s in the medical field. But 150K to be a registered nurse? Really?
@ Dolphin:
I think he wants to go home
Romney just said he’s OK with outsourcing.
He’s done.
@ Dolphin:
He has never debated well, even as Gov.
Rodan wrote:
How is the weather Mr. Cain?
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@ Urban Infidel:
Me also. College of hard Knox. And learned lots of valuable lessons along the way.
Rodan wrote:
In fact he’ll help it along for money
@ Rodan:
He’s doing it on purpose!!
Most of these questions are irrelevant and ridiculous.
“Mr. Perry, would you end all federal student loans?”
“Mr. Cain, would you wipe out Fannie and Freddie?”
“No explanations!! Yes or no!!!”
@ waldensianspirit:
Yup, he’s a Globalist.
@ Speranza:
He explained how it would make our economy more competitive, and eliminate outsourcing!!
Laugh all you want, he’s right.
Dolphin wrote:
Absolutely. I’ve done all kinds of work and then ultimately found a job in an industry that I like. It wasn’t luck, it was hard work. I think for some, college is a complete waste of time and money.
Calo wrote:
Being a good debater does not make you a good or bad administrator. Anyone of those folks on the stage would be thrilled to have his record.
I really like the frivolous lawsuits bill they put in place in Texas. You lose, you pay the costs.
Urban Infidel wrote:
Probably for the majority of Liberal Arts majors.
@ Bumr50:
I am out. Perry, imo is done.
@ Speranza:
On that point, we agree.
He has done many things right as the Governor.
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/11/09/al-qaeda-claims-it-has-acquired-weapons-from-libya/
Urban Infidel wrote:
RN’s can make a lot of money but that is a shit load of debt for a RN to carry.
Dolphin wrote:
I agree. His Brain Fart should seal it for him. Whether he sees that is another matter.
Calo wrote:
He does better on one-to-one interviews. I liked his foreign policy answers to Hannity’s questions last week.
@ waldensianspirit:
Like we didn’t see that coming!
And…they’re done. Thank God!
The primaries have not even begun. Remember how everyone thought McCain was finished early in 2008?
Fred Derf wrote:
well he was… that why the MSM stuffed him down our throats.
Penn State’s board of trustees will hold a press conference at 10 p.m.
Urban Infidel wrote:
Very similar to me. I went to Texas Tech for a year or two and realized it wasn’t for me. I ended up at a tech school and got a degree in commercial art while working full time to pay for my apartment and tuition. I wanted to go to a legitimate art school but couldn’t afford it.
What did you study in art school? And is that how you make your living now? (I don’t mean to pry, so don’t answer if I’m intruding)
Rodan wrote:
Extends Fast and Furious big time doesn’t it
Speranza wrote:
It doesn’t and never has mattered how a candidate does one on one debates and stump speeches are where it has always been decided, Perry has been done for a long time.
Nobody in Texas cared that Perry sucked in the debates because the Texas Governor is symbolic and they knew they could elect Bonzo the bed time chimp and it would be ok.
@ Runner:
I work in the publishing industry.
Runner wrote:
commercial art? paste ups eh?
@ Runner:
I studied anatomy, painting and drawing. It was the best education I could have had. I don’t make my living at art, but it is the love of my life.
Urban Infidel wrote:
Proof reader or editor?
Urban Infidel wrote:
Really? I worked in the publishing industry for about 10 years as art director for a few publishers before starting my own design studio which specializes in book cover design. Small world!
There’s no perfect candidate out there.
They all have some great points they make…and they all have their gaffes.
Ultimately—I still think Romney gets it.
IF that’s the case I really hope he adds some of his opponents to his cabinet. Even Huntsman–there is no one who knows China better.
A smart president is smart enough to know he doesn’t know everything.
doriangrey wrote:
Publicity.
Rick Perry implosion…
@ Runner:
That’s really great. I love book design.
@ brookly red:
Yeah, it was before computers were everywhere. We set type on a Compugraphic and used wax, tweezers, and t-squares to design our layouts for the stat camera. But I wouldn’t trade that experience for anything. A lot of young designers just don’t understand anything about type and design other than the software.
Heehee! CNN’s text converter gets it right: “David Frump”
@ doriangrey:
Damn it….. Full on nuclear mushroom cloud nuked himself…. He’s toast… Stick a Fork in Rick Perry he’s done…
@ Urban Infidel:
We probably know some of the same people!
@ doriangrey:
Damn, I’m missing it!
@ doriangrey:
right off the cliff..
Runner wrote:
Shoot me an email. Maybe we do!
@ refugee000:
You really think Conservatives will turn out for Romney? He’s a liberal.
@ doriangrey:
That was bad.
Since Romney will probably be the nominee, count me out on 2012.
Runner wrote:
I once saw my boss get his tie caught in the waxer…
Runner wrote:
Ha… I took a Phototypesetting ROP class on one of those monsters back in the late 70′s. Learned to do the whole 4 page lay-up for book and magazine publishing. Never used a single bit of what I learned.
@ Rodan:
I think people are scarred shitless of the idea of seeing Hussein kiss ass and screw things up for another four years.
refugee000 wrote:
Romney will screw thing up as well. He’s a Progressive and will do nothing Conservative. He wants unlimited war for Muslim Democracy. No thanks.
Look it’s your right to vote and support Romney.
I will refuse and should he be the nominee, I will not vote for that man. I’m sick of Progressives.
Rodan wrote:
Perry the first drop-out?
@ doriangrey:
Yup, that was bad. When a funder says you’re done. Bye bye.
We can say hi to Mitt Romney as the GOP nominee. This country is done, stick a fork in it. Maybe Newt will rise now.
@ doriangrey:
I’m just laughing right now.
I hate hearing printing stories from my other half.
My hubby has been in the printing industry for almost 40 years.
Ran one of the print shops outta Valenica at one time that was owned by a big German pub/print company.
Lefties are all making a big deal over Cain’s “Princess Nancy” comment.
They think it’s “sexist”!! And proof that he treats women like crap!!
LMAO!!
@ Rodan:
Romney is not Obama…seriously.
Think about it on the way to the election. Do you really want to see Hussein kissing arab ass and using a final four years to do a lot more damage?
@ Rodan:
Cain can hang.
Paterno fired. Won’t coach Saturday home game
doriangrey wrote:
Yeah, I learned how to set type on the Compugraphic 3000 in school and my first in-house job was as designer for a national chain of record stores and we had a Compugraphic in the art department with a girl who operated it for the designers. Since I knew how to use it, and I was a picky shit, I waited until she was on break and set my own type. I was so anal though it still wasn’t good enough. After waxing the strip of type, I would cut apart all of the letters in a headline or sub-head and use tweezers to manually kern everything. All that work for some two-bit advertisement in some newspaper for a sale on Bon Jovi and Charlie Sexton albums.
Cain on Greta.
Bumr50 wrote:
Funny thing is Princess Nancy is one of the nicer more polite things we here on the Left Coast have been calling the Wicked Witch of the West for years now. We even have bumper-stickers out here with her picture on them that say… “Where’s Dorthy and that damn house?”
Runner wrote:
Hey did you shoot the negatives and make the plates too? That used to be my favorite part.
O/T, but:
refugee000 wrote:
Romney would do that as well. He’s connected to the Saudis and Gulf State Arabs. He would be Bush III. No thanks. Romney likes Islam and has praised it constantly. He doesn’t think Sharia law is a threat. I’ve had to live through 21 years of Liberal/Progressive Economic rule. The sad part is that after Reagan, Clinton after 94 was the most Economically and Fiscal Conservative.
If Romney is the nominee, I am done with the GOProgressive Party. I already hate its Pro-Muslim Democracy foreign polciy. Now the GOP will nominate a Leftist? No thanks.
Look, you have a right to vote for Romney. Your good peeps and I respect that. But I have right not to vote for that man.
Romney and Obama are 2 sides of the same coin. It’s like saying Hitler and Stalin. No thanks.
Bumr50 wrote:
Now that’s sexual harassment! And Herman, you can do better than that.
Bob in Breckenridge wrote:
If you get a link, do a headline!
@ Bob in Breckenridge:
Spanier resigned
@ doriangrey:
Dots!
Ink on paper – STOP!
@ Rodan:
No F’in way I’ll vote for Romney in the primaries.
@ Macker:
CAIN!!
Macker wrote:
I’m not voting for him the general. I will vote Libertarian. I refuse to vote for a Muzzie living Progressive.
For President, I will vote Libertarian. I will vote Republican the rest.
@ doriangrey:
Our compugraphic would spit out the type already exposed and printed on long strips. This was the late 80s. I’m not familiar with older models. Did you have to shoot negatives and make plates for the type?
I did shoot my layouts on a non-repro graph board with a stat camera and create film for our silkscreen department to make the posters for the record stores.
One day in 1989 or 90, all of us designers walked into the office to find Apple Mac IIci computers on all of our drafting tables (which was a complete surprise). We each took turns with tutorials learning QuarkXpress and had a week to learn the software while the others took up the slack with traditional methods. It was a crash course for sure. It’s funny, I haven’t used Quark for nearly 7 or 8 years now. Everything is done with InDesign these days.
gone.
I’m looking forward to 2016.
We will have Allen West, Pat Toomey, Niki Haley, Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal.
@ coldwarrior:
Hey do a headline.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2059462/Israel-launch-strike-Iran-soon-month-prevent-development-nuclear-weapons.html
@ Rodan:
Now come on. Romney is not the other side of Obama’s coin.
I don’t want Romney to be the Republican nominee but I’m baffled by your hatred of him. Yeah, he’s farther to the left than I would like but he’s not Obama, he’s not a Marxist, he’s not a Stalinist.
He might be Bush III, and while I don’t want a Bush III, it would be lightyears ahead of what we have now. I’m as frustrated as you are at the state of the Republican party but to paint Romney as the devil incarnate is just unfair.
Rodan wrote:
i updated your special report.
Rodan wrote:
2016 cant come soon enough.
waldensianspirit wrote:
Every year around this time I hear this. Next year same thing.
Wow it is flat out BASH Cain over at Ace…
It’s ugly.
Runner wrote:
Oh, sorry didn’t mean to confuse you. No we had the same type system, but once we cut and pasted everything into our lay-up we shot it and made a litho plate to print our dumb junk up.
The ROP class covered everything from using the compugraphic to binding the book or magazine.
waldensianspirit wrote:
Too much publicity.
If it happens…it won’t be with a month long warning.
Most of this is pure psyops. It puts a lot of pressure on Iran watching the skies. It also lets the world know they either do something or the bunker busters start flying—eventually.
Rodan wrote:
Yup, been hearing that every year at this time since around 2003 or so.
@ Runner:
Romney will get blamed for a bad economy. He has no answers and he’s a Progressive. Come 2014 The Dems will Congress. In 2016, the Dems will win the Presidency and Romney will destroy Conservatism.
Bush II almost killed off the Right. Obama has resurrected the Right. Romney presiding over a weak economy and high deficit will get the blame for everything. He will be associated with Conservatism and the American Right will die.
Romney and Obama are Globalists. Romney is an International Socialist. Obama is a Transnational Marxist. They both like Islam, sup[port the Arab Spring and wars for Islamic Democracy.
You can have him. I will not participate in electing another Leftist.
@ doriangrey:
It’s the same old.
@ doriangrey:
Ahh, same process for me. And yes, I did like to tinker with the stat camera and play around in our darkroom.
Jeez, I have be up at 6 AM…What’s it like?
@ doriangrey:
I’ve called her Nazi Pelousy (Godwin!) for years and years.
I mean for work. I have to drive two hours to a meeting.
@ Rodan:
Romney is not my first, or fifth choice, but he’s not a socialist. He just wants to be elected to anything he runs for. He changes with the wind. Romney will not kill conservatism. He will never be associated with the right or conservatism. He is splashed on the newspapers as the moderate who can court the elusive independent voter. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him described as someone who is loved by conservatives.
Sometimes we don’t get what we want but we have to deal with the hand we are dealt. There is no way that Romney would be as bad for this country as Obama has been. He may be a milquetoast but he’s definitely not a “leftist” as you claim.
I do not want him for our nominee. But if the Repubs somehow gives him the nomination I will vote for him in the general election.
Bob in Breckenridge wrote:
it looks alot like 5am, but just a touch brighter
Carolina Girl wrote:
Stop complimenting her.
coldwarrior wrote:
Yeah, well…That’s when I’m used to crashing. This is uncharted territory. For me, anyway.
Runner wrote:
until/if he is president, then that will occur as the economy comes tumbling down from 4 more years of big govt progressivism.
Bob in Breckenridge wrote:
good luck!
@ Runner:
Yes he is.
The media will and so will the American public.
Really? Yes he will. He’s a Globalist like Obama and don’t give a crap about out interest. He will do NOTHING about the economy or our archaic tax/regulatory structure.
Romney and Obama should be running mates. They are both Leftists.
Let me get this, if God forbid Romney is elected, I bet you and others will rally around him and silence any Conservative critic of his. You all did it under Bush. I refuse to go along with that. I oppose Romney and Obama equally.
Vote for him if you want. It’s your right. It’s my right NOT to vote for or support Romney. I refuse to vote for a Leftist.
@ coldwarrior:
Exactly! The media will label him a Conservative. Bush was no Conservative. He just used Family values to mask his Progressive agenda. Yet, the media called him Conservative and the public believed it.
i held my nose in 88, 92, 96 (dole???), 2000, and 2008.
no more holding my nose.
i know a good few folks who will not vote for romney the the general election. they will go and vote for congress/senate etc but not vote for him. romney cant get past 25% and its been 6plus years of building the brand.
For all of you that want to follow Romney off a cliff.
Mitt Romney’s spending “cuts” would expand the federal budget.
Wake up people!
doriangrey wrote:
I never want to see it again. I will mute the TV and leave the room whenever the news shows play it over and over the next several days. One good thing, it got Herman Cain’s scandals off the front page.
well, i dont get to vote i the primaries till april or so and the convention aint till this summer…so we shall see.
night all
@ coldwarrior:
See my 238. He’s a Leftist.
Bumr50 wrote:
Are you on C2′s twitter feed? It’s been non-stop Cain bashing for a month now.
Rodan wrote:
So many people feel exactly the same way you do. If Romney gets the nomination many will stay home or vote for a third party. That’s exactly what happened with Juan McCain. A RINO is the reason we have a Marxist in the White House today.
Calo wrote:
That’s why I never trusted them. I saw this coming, not exactly, but you can read between the lines.
@ Fritz Katz:
I’m just saying publicly, what many Conservatives are thinking.
@ Rodan:
I didn’t silence anyone’s opinion of Bush, nor am I silencing your criticism of Romney. With all due respect, it seems like you are mistaking pointing out fallacies in your statements with silencing your ability to pronounce such criticisms.
And please keep in mind that I am not a fan of Romney. He is not someone I want to be the nominee for the Republican party.
He is not the antichrist, nor will he destroy the country. He is not Obama, who is the real enemy of the country.
@ 211 coldwarrior: One reason Paterno wouldn’t have gone to the police is that he was trained by the University not to go to the police but to put it upstairs first and let someone else handle the situation and escalate it. He should have distanced himself from Sandusky though.
If this happened in my workplace I would tell my boss and he would handle it. If we have an obvious crime it is expected that the person will call 911 and the front desk. Not to handle it personally.