Looks like these women, at least the three who have met with the lib press, claiming Herman Cain allegedly sexually harassed them 15 years ago have, well, let’s say “shady” pasts of filing numerous discrimination complaints against various employers and demanding promotions, or money, or both.
Bill Kurtis, who was a longtime news anchor at CBS-owned WBBM-TV in Chicago, going back to when I was a little kid living there, and hosted many shows on A&E, speaks to WLS-AM radio host Roe (not Roy) Conn about one of the accusers, Sharon Bialek, a former employee of WBBM, and her history of making accusations against her employers, including WBBM-TV. This was played on Mark Levin’s show…
Finally, Ann Coulter lays it nicely out in her latest column, and she connects the dots to Obama, his stooge David Axelrod and the bimbo…
David Axelrod’s Pattern of Sexual Misbehavior
by Ann CoulterMinnesota, Nebraska, Kansas, Washington, D.C. — but never in Chicago.
So it’s curious that all the sexual harassment allegations against Cain emanate from Chicago: home of the Daley machine and Obama consigliere David Axelrod.
Suspicions had already fallen on Sheila O’Grady, who is close with David Axelrod and went straight from being former Chicago mayor Richard M. Daley’s chief of staff to president of the Illinois Restaurant Association (IRA), as being the person who dug up Herman Cain’s personnel records from the National Restaurant Association (NRA).
The Daley-controlled IRA works hand-in-glove with the NRA. And strangely enough, Cain’s short, three-year tenure at the NRA is evidently the only period in his decades-long career during which he’s alleged to have been a sexual predator.
After O’Grady’s name surfaced in connection with the miraculous appearance of Cain’s personnel files from the NRA, she issued a Clintonesque denial of any involvement in producing them — by vigorously denying that she knew Cain when he was at the NRA. (Duh.)
And now, after a week of conservative eye-rolling over unspecified, anonymous accusations against Cain, we’ve suddenly got very specific sexual assault allegations from an all-new accuser out of … Chicago.
Herman Cain has never lived in Chicago. But you know who has? David Axelrod! And guess who lived in Axelrod’s very building? Right again: Cain’s latest accuser, Sharon Bialek.
Bialek’s accusations were certainly specific. But they also demonstrated why anonymous accusations are worthless.
Within 24 hours of Bialek’s press conference, friends and acquaintances of hers stepped forward to say that she’s a “gold-digger,” that she was constantly in financial trouble — having filed for personal bankruptcy twice — and, of course, that she had lived in Axelrod’s apartment building at 505 North Lake Shore Drive, where, she admits, she knew the man The New York Times calls Obama’s “hired muscle.”
Throw in some federal tax evasion, and she’s Obama’s next Cabinet pick.
The reason all this is relevant is that both Axelrod and Daley have a history of smearing political opponents by digging up claims of sexual misconduct against them.
John Brooks, Chicago’s former fire commissioner, filed a lawsuit against Daley six months ago claiming Daley threatened to smear him with sexual harassment accusations if Brooks didn’t resign. He resigned — and the sexual harassment allegations were later found to be completely false.
Meanwhile, as extensively detailed in my book Guilty: Liberal ‘Victims’ and Their Assault on America, the only reason Obama became a U.S. senator — allowing him to run for president — is that David Axelrod pulled sealed divorce records out of a hat, first, against Obama’s Democratic primary opponent, and then against Obama’s Republican opponent.
One month before the 2004 Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate, Obama was way down in the polls, about to lose to Blair Hull, a multimillionaire securities trader.
But then The Chicago Tribune — where Axelrod used to work — began publishing claims that Hull’s second ex-wife, Brenda Sexton, had sought an order of protection against him during their 1998 divorce proceedings.
From then until Election Day, Hull was embroiled in fighting the allegation that he was a “wife beater.” He and his ex-wife eventually agreed to release their sealed divorce records. His first ex-wife, daughters and nanny defended him at a press conference, swearing he was never violent. During a Democratic debate, Hull was forced to explain that his wife kicked him and he had merely kicked her back.
Hull’s substantial lead just a month before the primary collapsed with the nonstop media attention to his divorce records. Obama sailed to the front of the pack and won the primary. Hull finished third with 10 percent of the vote.
Luckily for Axelrod, Obama’s opponent in the general election had also been divorced.
The Republican nominee was Jack Ryan, a graduate of Dartmouth and Harvard law and business schools, who had left his lucrative partnership at Goldman Sachs to teach at an inner-city school on the South Side of Chicago.
But in a child custody dispute some years earlier, Ryan’s ex-wife, Hollywood sex kitten Jeri Lynn Ryan, had alleged that, while the couple was married, Jack had taken her to swingers clubs in Paris and New York.
Jack Ryan adamantly denied the allegations. In the interest of protecting their son, he also requested that the records be put permanently under seal.
Axelrod’s courthouse moles obtained the “sealed” records and, in no time, they were in the hands of every political operative in Chicago. Knowing perfectly well what was in the records, Chicago Tribune attorneys flew to California and requested that the court officially “unseal” them — over the objections of both Jack and Jeri Ryan.
Your honor, who knows what could be in these records!
A California judge ordered them unsealed, which allowed newspapers to publish the salacious allegations, and four days later, Ryan dropped out of the race under pressure from idiot Republicans (who should be tracked down and shot).
With a last-minute replacement of Alan Keyes as Obama’s Republican opponent, Obama was able to set an all-time record in an Illinois Senate election, winning with a 43 percent margin.
And that’s how Obama became a senator four years after losing a congressional race to Bobby Rush. (In a disastrous turn of events, Rush was not divorced.)
Axelrod destroyed the only two men who stood between Obama and the Senate with illicitly obtained, lurid allegations from their pasts.
In 2007, long after Obama was safely ensconced in the U.S. Senate, The New York Times reported: “The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece (on Hull’s sealed divorce records) later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had ‘worked aggressively behind the scenes’ to push the story.”
Some had suggested, the Times article continued, that Axelrod had “an even more significant role — that he leaked the initial story.”
This time, Obama’s little helpers have not only thrown a bomb into the Republican primary, but are hoping to destroy the man who deprives the Democrats of their only argument in 2012: If you oppose Obama, you must be a racist.
Tags: Herman Cain, Leftists, Moonbats, obama, Progressives
This whole thing stinks to high heaven, and if Axelrod and the Chicago Machine have ANYTHING at all to do with this it begs the question:
Why are they so afraid of Herman Cain?
They can scream to high heaven that they are “really worried” about Mitt Romney, but it’s Cain that can shatter several paradigms with his election.
@ Bumr50:
Cain is the greater threat if for no other reason than that Cain can fire up the base. Romney can’t do that. Romney won’t do that. This election is going to hinge on who can turn out their people (they almost always do). Last election, Obama turned out his people in droves. He probably can’t do that this election. Cain can and would, so Cain would be favored to beat Obama, and Obama has so many bad negatives that he’ll set records if he survives, anyway. Romney has always been the candidate that they preferred to go against. All the blather about how afraid of him they are is just old Br’er Rabbit whining about the briar patch…
the liberal elitist hate cain
because he proves that the
black man can succeed with out
thier help. It just don’t fit
in with thier racist ideology
@ mawskrat:
They like to think that the blacks are inferior, thus they feel superior. When a black succeeds on their own without help from the State, that shatters this myth. We need to hammer how truly racist the Left is Affirmative action, special handouts, all that nonsense is based on the myth that blacks can’t make it on their own, that individually they are less than whites. We need to destroy that myth totally and utterly.
This “accuser panel” can’t really damage Cain at this point, I don’t think.
I don’t think that there’s any collusion with any political operatives at all at this stage either, with the exceptions of the MSM and the Journ-O-Listas if you want to include them as direct political operatives (which could indeed be true.)
They just set the ball rolling, and now it’s the harassment lawyer and media circus.
I think that Cain has, at least among conservatives (that aren’t shamelessly jumping on the sexual harassment bandwagon in the interest of furthering their preferred candidates chances) both put this issue to bed. And with the help of conservative journalists has cast serious doubt on any accusations that may pop out of nowhere going forward.
Here’s a different and interesting theory:
@ Bumr50:
well, well, well, a theory that makes perfect sense.
the clintonistas harassed him after he bitch slapped hilary.
@ coldwarrior:
If that’s indeed the case, he’s lucky to be alive.
@ coldwarrior:
The Clinton’s would never do that. They are much too honorable to make up allegations against a political enemy…
(Yes, it hurt to type that
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Some celebrities may have soured a bit on President Barack Obama, but not Chris Rock. The comedian and actor told fellow comedian Marc Maron on the “WTF with Marc Maron” podcast that he’s “fine with the president,” if only because he understands that the president has to keep his most aggressive policies on the back burner until he earns a second term.
“There’s a f——— art to the first term because you’re always running for a second term the whole time. It’s like Clinton’s first term. You can’t really do your gangsta sh— until your second term. … Even Bush couldn’t really f—- up the world until his second term. That’s when he put the hammer down.”
I’m like everybody, I want more action. But I understand that he’s trying not to piss off a lot of people. But I believe wholeheartedly if he’s back in, he’s going to do some gangsta sh—.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67980.html#ixzz1dJQ9UrHj
Just to remember why we MUST defeat obama
Iron Fist wrote:
i am just glad that there is a cohesive theory about this now. it makes perfect sense as it is quarantines everyone to one time in one place where both sides operated and addresses cain’s time away from dc where ‘harassment’ never occurred
@ Nevergiveup:
a stalwart congress and senate could stop him dead in his tracks
@ Iron Fist:
Yup.
coldwarrior wrote:
Exactly! Primary and purge the Progressives from the GOP in Congress.
@ coldwarrior:
It needs a touch more saliciousness. Like maybe one of these chicks is Hillary Clinton’s former Lesbian Lover…
Does This Atlanta Private Investigator’s Lie Detector Prove Cain Is Telling the Truth?
Cain 2012.
If for no other reason, do it because they HATE him.
@ Nevergiveup:
His “gangsta shit”! These fuckers want a Dictatorship, and the Hot Civil War that comes with it. They are fucking insane!
Rodan wrote:
Again your fighting the wrong war at the wrong time
coldwarrior wrote:
He is doing a lot of damage just with executive orders. He has to go and now
@ Iron Fist:
Thats cause they don’t realize what a Hot Civil War would entail. They think that most will go quietly into the night. The sad part is most of the sheeple will go along with it. It will be more like the Revolutionary War. 1/3 will want Govt to fix it all and give up liberty for it. 1/3 will fight and 1/3 don’t want it to bother Amercian Idol…
@ Nevergiveup:
There’s no reason we can’t fight both wars simultaneously. Even if we have to hold our nose and vote for Romney, that doesn’t mean we have to just sit still and let the Elite GOP have their way with ut. There is no reason whatsoever we can’t fight to take better control of the Senate and House. None whatsoever.
@ Nevergiveup:
I’m sorry, but I can’t help but notice that you seem to view US as the problem.
What do you think I should be doing?
I think that Herman Cain would make a fine president, and plan on supporting him as I believe he stands the best chance to defeat Barack Obama in 2012.
Iron Fist wrote:
Again I am not sure who these “Elites” your always talking about. But hey sure fight against and vote for who you like, but don’t go and fracture the party 1 year from the election
@ Nevergiveup:
Chris Rock, just like Обама…is a [Deleted].
MikeA wrote:
That is the way I see it, except it may be mor elike 1/10th fight. But that is still 30 million people willing to fight for their freedom, and that is in a populace where almost one out of every two adults owns at least one firearm. That ain’t shabby. And the bulk of the military is on our side, though maybe not so much in the officer class.
Bumr50 wrote:
I didn’t say one word about any of the candidates today and on purpose. But some people are saying things that sound like they’d like to fracture the party 1 year from the election and I am against that.
@ Nevergiveup:
My future has been robbed. Getting rid of Obama won’t solve anything if he’s replaced by Economic Liberals. Under the last Republican President/Congressional combo, the Debt went up and we had anemic economic growth. I saw the movie before, no thanks.
You and I have different concerns.
Nevergiveup wrote:
he has already done several impeachable things, yet the gop are cowards and wont call him on it…so now conservatives have to hold their noses YET AGAIN because the leadership are cowards??
nope, sorry. i’m done, and so are a bunch of conservates. so far i will vote for any gop cat but rommey; and that is stretching it.
@ Rodan:
@ coldwarrior:
Then yeah if you guys are willing to let obama get re-elected just to prove you points,then yeah I do view you as the enemy
@ Nevergiveup:
I’m going to ask you a question.
After the lousy economic/fiscal record of the last 2 Republican Presidents (which I can back up), why should I trust that this time they will do it right?
@ Nevergiveup:
I don’t want to fracture the party, but have found that many of my positions don’t jive with the GOP’s actions. Positions that I simply cannot abandon without compromising my integrity.
My goal is not division, but to simply be heard.
Nevergiveup wrote:
You might want to tell that to Karl Rove (who is one of those Elites you studiously deny exist). Is is doing more and has done more to fracture the party than I’ll ever be in position to do. You piss in the base’s face enough, and they will leave. That is the lesson the Party Elites should have learned from Bush I and Ross Perot. You can’t win without your base. Can not.
@ Iron Fist:
The GOP elites have manipulated the Base. Now the base is not being fooled!
@ Iron Fist:
Karl Rove isn’t on this blog and I an just sick and tired of hearing people say they’s rather see obama re-elected to prove their points. I got enough on my plate arguing with liberals to have to argue with those supposedly on my side. Later, I’m out of here
coldwarrior wrote:
There are a lot of people that are going to feel that way about Romney. They don;t have to vote for Obama, they don’t need to go vote Third Party. All they have to do is stay home. This is what I have been saying about Romney from the beginning. He won’t even try with the base. He takes it for granted that we’ll turn out and vote for him, and that is a terrible indicator of what kind of “leader” he’d be if he won. It is why I don’t think he can beat Obama. I think it’ll be close, but Romney’s unpopulatrity with the base will tip the election to Obama.
Iron Fist wrote:
That, my friend, depends on who their Boss was at the time they accepted their Appointments to their respective Academies.
meet the new boss…same as the old boss
we won’t get fooled again.
Rodan wrote:
Bammy hasn’t trended downward – been at -18 for a couple days. Of course, this is probably due mostly to the jacked up phony job numbers.
Job numbers which don’t take into account all those college graduates who can’t find jobs but who can’t file for unemployment because they haven’t worked.
Also, you have baby boomers retiring every day at this point, but I don’t think one is balancing out the others. Let’s see where the job numbers shake out in February, when all those seasonal workers are let go.
I’m waiting to see if those Cain accusers have that joint presser that they’ve been threatening, where apparently they want to call upon Cain to take a lie detector test. To which I say “nope – burden of proof is on the 3(4, 5?) of you – just step on over to this polygraph machine.”
@ Carolina Girl:
Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips has called for Cain to withdraw.
I withdrew from TPN a few months ago.
Nevergiveup wrote:
i am the enemy?
that’s real of you to say doc.
funny, ‘enemy’ is the same way the tea parties are viewed by the gop leadership and the rnc. so i am in very good company.
@ Nevergiveup:
Shoulod I not diagnose the problem that I see? It has nothing to do with me fracturing the party. The fractures are there. Nothing I do effects that on eway or another, but I do have good reason for my opinion. And I am probably more qualified to have that opinion than most of the talking heads you see on the alphabet soup networks, I just lack the connections to become high-profile in the equasion. This isn’t rocet science. Even Romney has to see that he has a problem. He gets the same one-quarter of the GOP vote that he has always gotten. He has been running his campaign for six years and has made no inroads in his own party! You don’t think that is a cause for concern about his viability as a candidate? If you truly care more about defeating Obama than intraparty politics, then you should focus your ire at Rove et al, not me. Cain is probably our best chance to defeat Obama, not Romney. Cain has the fire, Cain destroys the race card, Cain has a catchy plan (I don’t think he can really implement it, but that is different than being able to sell it). Romney has none of that. Romney has ObamneyCare hung around his neck, obviating our best line of attack against Obama. Romney can’t run against ObamaCare. Not credibly. People won’t turn out and vote for him because he feels he’s entitled to be President. Not in places like Ohio and Florida where it matters. Romney can’t carry a single State that McCain lost in 2008.
@ Carolina Girl:
Obama is being propped up by the media-Industrial complex.
Nevergiveup wrote:
News Flash Doc, while you were sleeping a bunch of Democrats/Marxists infiltrated the GOP and have been sabotaging it from the inside out. The Party is already fractured, it can’t make up it’s mind because literally it is of two different minds.
Rodan wrote:
What Eisenhower should have warned us against…
doriangrey wrote:
and hence the reason we have primaries and the occasional hanged convention.
the infighting happens now (and infighting is a good thing, see below), then the fight is taken to the dems.
the politburo and communist party in eastbloc never had infighting, because there never were and new/different/better ideas.
@ Iron Fist:
Well said!
Iron Fist wrote:
If you really think about it, the Unions are the military, and the Demo☭rats are the industrial.
@ Iron Fist:
Eisenhower was right on the military Industrial Complex. There is an element in Washington that wants endless wars so defense contractors make money. Hence, why we don’t fight wars to crush anymore!
We need to hit them with an Iron Fist!
But yes, the Media-Industrial complex is a threat to this nation. A very dangerous one.
@ coldwarrior:
The Modern GOProgressive elites do resemble the Politburo.
@ doriangrey:
What people don’t realize is that historically, the GOP has been a Leftist party. Reagan was an anomaly.
@ Rodan:
It seems pretty obvious to me. Romney should be polling at or near 50% of Republicans right now. He’s had six years to perfect his campaign. It isn’t just that he should have the most polished campaign, but that he should have been able to sell his ideas, unless they are fundamentally flawed and/or totally out of tune with the electorate. I think they are both. He has ideas for a semi-Socialist State, and Ideas that are marginally more palatable than Obama full-on Socialist State Ideas, and he is trying to sell them to a capitalistic, small-government, individual freedom loving crowd. Cain is an absolute amature (he is, and it shows), and he is inside the margin of error with Romney! That wouldn’t be happening if Romney was closely in tune with his base. That Romney doesn’t even see this weakness concerns me more than anything Cain has done or is accused of.
Rodan wrote:
new/different ideas challenge the status quo (those who are the leaders) this challenge and then the response is the basis for cleavages within an organization as these ideas are expressed, debated, and adopted or rejected. the cleavages are always there but not always active.
the leaders can adapt to the new ideas (accept them) and risk losing some power, which is much harder for people to do than to simply fight the new ideas and risk losing power if they are overridden.
either way, the risk for loss of power and change of status quo is very real and very dangerous and can result in a large fracture that splits the organization in 2.
@ Iron Fist:
Romney should challenge Obama for the Democratic nomination. He’s in the wrong party.
@ Rodan:
Yeah, now that would be interesting political theater. The problem is, the entrenched power structures of both paries mitigates against it. Neither Party is interested in what the Country needs or, for that matter, what the voters want. Both want only to fool enough of the people enough of the time that they get the nicer offices in the Capitol and they get the invites to the best parties. We have a very moribund political structure, and we are entering a time of crisis unlike any we have faced in our entire history. We need to sweep he old political class away completely, and build a new, hopefully better, political class in its place.
Boy, Mexico is collapsing into total anarchy. We have a proto-failed state on our southern border, and Obama wants Open Borders there! Lovely
Rodan wrote:
ed rendel is way to the right of romney.
what is wrong with this picture???
Iron Fist wrote:
The GOP elites and Romney are more concerned about Islamic nations, than a Christian neighbor to the South. What are a bunch of dead Mexicans to the elites of the Democratic and Republican Party.
@ coldwarrior:
Bill Clinton is to the Right of Romney. Unlike Romney, he does have record that Post 94, is Economically and Fiscally Conservative!
@ Nevergiveup:
No shit. Four years without reelection worries? I would hate to see the day.
@ coldwarrior:
He doesn’t seem to care about congress- executive orders rule the day!
@ Nevergiveup:
Dangit. I’ll learn to refresh. >:-/
Rodan wrote:
we used to have the monroe doctrine to cover this.
@ coldwarrior:
There are Paramilitary groups in Mexico taking on the Cartels. We should be arming and supporting them. We are not because our elites don’t care about a bunch of dead Mexicans. Mexico and its people are a good bogey man to distract us from our real enemy: The Arabs and their lackies.
@ Bumr50:
Haha! At Freep, which is a blog with lots of TEA Party adherents, Phillips is being raked over the coals.
m wrote:
then cut funding/take the order to court/force a vote to overturn the order.
fact is, the leadership does not want to fight this president. time to replace the leadership as well as the president.
@ m:
See my headlines. Romney would only spend 11% less than Obama. He wants to send more Americans to die for Islamic Democracy.
I would hate to see what Conservatism looks like after Romney. We will have an even farther Left Democrat.
Romney is not the answer.
@ Rodan:
Yeah, that just encourages the cheap labor to keep coming north. It is really to the detriment of both America and Mexico. Yeah, the people coming north send money home, but they aren’t contributing to building a viable economy in Mexico. Ideally, Mexicans would be employed in Mexico, just as most Americans work in America. The Open Borders people are more concerned about not having to pay more for their gardeners than they are in Mexico developing a real, functioning economy. Yet we are the one’s called racists for wanting American immigration policy to mirror Mexicos…
@ coldwarrior:
Exactly, we need to elect more Fiscal/Economic Conservatives. Then we need to replace Boehner and McConnell. They are the enemy within.
Rodan wrote:
I know far to many people in both the Military and the Defense Contracting industry to believe this for even one second. Defense contractors tend to be some of the most fiscally conservative patriotic American’s you will ever meet. What you ascribe to them is not only wrong, it’s shameful.
Do they want to make money? Of course they do, everybody wants to make money, even you are constantly complaining that you aren’t making the amount of money that your parents enjoyed.
I have never met one single individual employed in the defense industry that wanted or hoped for unending wars. San Diego California is a major defense industry based economy, less so than the 40′s through the 70′s, but it still represents about 30 percent of our manufacturing here.
You would be amazed at how many former military people are employed by the defense industry. There goal is emphatically not to have never ending wars, but because so many of them were in the military themselves, their goal is to ensure that US Military personal have the best weapons systems available.
Eisenhower was not right, he was in idiot. Like many officers and politicians who had been through WWI and WWII he foolishly believed that after those horrific wars human beings would have decided that they had had enough of wars. He was not only wrong, he was dead wrong.
Nobody hates wars more than military people and their families. But only fools and imbeciles think that the most basic of human nature has or is going to change. The most basic of all human natures is, if you cant get what you want the easy way, take it by force.
That is 100 percent why humans fight wars, because somebody wants what somebody else has and is willing to take it by force. Pretending that this isn’t reality only invited reality to assault you and take your shit from you.
The weapons to fight wars with do not make themselves, someone has to make them. You are very proud of the fact that you personally own a hand gun and regularly state your willingness to use it against anyone attempting you harm.
Your hand gun may be good for personal protection against a couple of idiots trying to harm you, but it isn’t worth spit against a Chinese tank or a squad of Cuban soldiers armed with AK47′s.
A 1970′s era M60 tank is no match for a modern Chinese ZTZ99 main battle tank. The F22 Raptor is bad to the bone, but it is nearly evenly matched by the Russian T-50 and the Chinese Chengdu J-20.
@ Iron Fist:
Mexico’s Immigration policy is hypocritical. If you’re White Latin or White Catholic, you get citizenship ASAP. If you’re Central American, they shot you on the border.
There are Paramilitary groups in Mexico that are fighting the Cartels. We should be arming and supporting them. Instead we arm Muslims.
See a problem?
Rodan wrote:
obama spends a dollar: 1.00
romney spends .89 : .89
1.00-.89 =.11, so: there almost isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between the two!
or, the econ crash comes 11% later with romney
Iron Fist wrote:
News Flash, Mexico has been a failed state for at least a decade, those of us who live near it have known this since Bill Clinton was president.
@ Carolina Girl:
I reregistered on the site just so that I could post one comment calling him a “fink” and then cancelled.
@ doriangrey:
At the end of the day weapons are merely tools. The use that they are put to is decided by people. A wing of F-22s could start a war, but the threat of them could be what stops a war, too. Moreover, not all uses of force are equally morally reprehensible. I’d rather fight a brief, bloodless (for the Americans) war with Iran now, than a nuclear confrontation ten years from now where hundreds of thousands die on both sides (millions? Could be).
@ doriangrey:
No one is talking about disarming? Where did I say this? The Military Industrial Complex includes Wilsonians like Bill Kristol who wants the US to invade nations to spread Democracy. Deny it or not, there is an element of the elites who want endless wars so they can keep themselves employed.
I like by the old Roman saying, if you want peace prepare for war. Bill Kristol and others don’t want that. They want these limited useless wars so they can test their theories and their buddies make money off dead Americans.
Ike was spot on. See Vietnam, Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya and get back to me.
@ doriangrey:
‘failed state’ is an actual term/definition, mexico isnt there yet.
they are getting there tho
@ Rodan:
Oh, I agree with you. I wish we had political leaders who actually cared about American interests. They do, to a degree, but it is only as much as they must to maintain power, and not a bit more.
@ coldwarrior:
Hence my description of them as a proto-failed state. They aren’t there yet, but they are getting there. We’re not doing so hot on maintiaining integrity of our borders, ourselves. That is the deliberate policy of the Democrat Party. Some might call that treasonous…
First Cain ad in Iowa, focusing on farmers.
@ doriangrey:
That’s because our elites don’t give a crap about Mexicans. They only care about Muslims. You would think a stable and secure Mexico would be in our interests. But it’s a win win for both Parties.
Democrats get a new victim group and cheap labor.
Republicans get a bogeyman and cheap labor.
It’s in neither Party’s interest to have a successful Mexico.
Imagine if there was no illegal problem? What would Republicans have to bitch about? Who would the Democrats use as a victim group?
Iron Fist wrote:
narco-state, prefailed state, failing state…yeah i know i am picking nits.
Rodan wrote:
coldwarrior wrote:
That’s what was said about Colombia. Then the AUC popped up, seize control of most of the country, had Uribe elected in 2002. Look at them now. 5% economic growth and less crime than most major US cities!
WaPo “downdings” the debate audience by calling them “Losers” regarding their response to the Cain allegation questions.
@ Iron Fist:
@ coldwarrior:
If we had spent 1/4 of the money stabilizing Mexico like we did Afghanistan and Iraq. They would be in good shape and we would need less border security.
But see my 81. It’s in the interest of the Democrats and Republicans to have Mexico the way it is. It’s a win-win politically for both parties.
Rodan wrote:
columbia was a narco-state, hence failing. then W and his boys fixed it.
W did a nice job there helping out the columbians.
@ Rodan:
Yeah I know for a fact that I have never said Romney was the answer, LOL!
@ Bumr50:
foolish plebians, we (the media) will tell you how/what to think.
OT- Gun news.
@ Bumr50:
I’d like to get a little H&K UMP. It is a nice submachine-gun based carbine in .45. It is hard to find anything to complain about there. I don’t think they make them any more, but you can get them on Gun Broker.
@ coldwarrior:
The AUC did alot of the heavy lifting. W did was not listen to his Wilsonian advisers and decided to deal with Uribe/AUC. It was one of the few foreign policy moves that he did right.
Kristol and his gang called the AUC Naro-Terrorists and gave Bush a bitch fit for dealing with them. They have eggs on their face again.
The AUC, Uribe and W get props for
We need a new country and western song for Rick Perry.
Got title ideas?
“Duh”
“Falling Down Agin”
“RC Cola and a Moon Pie”
“When I Wake Up Vote for Me”
@ coldwarrior:
Bartiromo’s face while they were booing will be a comfort to me for a while, I think.
taxfreekiller wrote:
yummy!
now where did i put my car keys…
@ Rodan:
You giving props to W. There’s a rare bird…
Bumr50 wrote:
i havent watched a debate yet. the format doesnt lead to real debate, just soundbites
@ coldwarrior:
Having Bachmann, Paul, Huntsman and Santorum on the stage is really starting get old.
coldwarrior wrote:
The debates are really for the media, anyway. The audience is just along for the ride.
taxfreekiller wrote:
“You’re Not The One I’m Thinkin’ Of”
@ Iron Fist:
its for ‘gotcha’ moments.
see, perry was talking about cutting entire departments, this got lost when he drew a blank. would he draw a blank while writing the legislation to get rid of these 3 depts? no.
but what is everyone talking about? his going blank instead of the idea of smaller govt.
Bumr50 wrote:
yeah…those 4 are fairly useless
I like the fact that Cain’s hitting the EPA hard in Iowa.
Iron Fist wrote:
It’s because he went against his advisers and actually did the right thing in Colombia.
If W had ignored Colombia, they would have allied with Russia or China. So it was pick your poison. A government with Narco roots or a hostile Rightwing Regime near the Panama Canal. W did right here.
I still will not give him a pass for his Progressive policies and his wars to spread Islamic democracy.
The Osprey wrote:
What about “Lookin’ For Love In All The Wrong Places”?
@ Bumr50:
You know, this whole “he needs to respond!” is getting on my nerves. Respond to WHAT? Until Buy-a-lick produces one shred of evidence that supports her story of what happened, she has not met her burden. And that other serial accuser, who got a nominal settlement that amounted (after attorney’s fees) to the cost of a low-end Lexis and who went on to attempt to shake down her next employer for goodies with the threat of a sexual harassment allegation, was found to have made a baseless claim against Cain. If anything, as I’ve said before, it was probably her lawyer that insisted on a confidential agreement in order to keep the National Restaurant Association from telling future employers about her filing of false charges.
And as for the “he invited a girl out to dinner and we all went because I felt ‘funny’ about it” accusation – are you fucking kidding me.
But the biggest question these women have yet to answer to my satisfaction is this: he announced for President months ago. You only choose to come forward NOW?
@ Macker:
see what i mean? and i am just using yer post as an example to illustrate my point in 101:
its for ‘gotcha’ moments.
see, perry was talking about cutting entire departments, this got lost when he drew a blank. would he draw a blank while writing the legislation to get rid of these 3 depts? no.
but what is everyone talking about? his going blank instead of the idea of smaller govt.
Oh and I want to see who is invited to this “joint presser.” Give Andy Breitbart some credentials.
@ Carolina Girl:
Cain is smart enough to know that there’s nothing that he can say that will satisfy any media on the left or right.
Moreover, it would only give them new angles of attack that would give the story more legs.
I like the strategy.
Why feed the beast what it wants when you can starve it to death?
@ Carolina Girl:
They are simply trying to derail him with manufactured accusations. They want to get their blows in before the first Primary in January. This smacks of collusion. They all just decided to come forward at the same time? That kind of stretches my willing suspension of disbelief a bit…
@ coldwarrior:
I wish Conservatives would go after Romney as hard as they have Perry or Gingrich.
Then when Romney is the nominee, I don’t want to hear bitching.
@ coldwarrior:
CW – maybe it’s me, but why in the world did they even do these debates now? Why not do them close to the time of the primaries – you could even narrow it down to two or three – one on national and world economics, one on foreign policy and one on domestic policy.
This is just, I don’t know. It’s like putting the Christmas decorations out after Labor Day. And giving the goddamned Democrats lots of sound bites. Which they’ll use.
@ Iron Fist:
I have maintained that this smacks of Obamabots – it fits his modus operandi for dealing with opponents. Coulter did a pretty good column the other day that raises some serious questions. In the meantime, Cain’s damn campaign needs to stop the fingerpointing as to who’s responsible. They can’t prove it and they’re looking stupid.
@ Carolina Girl:
If I may interject – the stupid GOPers in the early primary states have moved their schedules up in a pissing match, so now voting starts over the holidays.
Thanks Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Florida.
So we HAVE to do this now.
And we’re also stuck with a bunch of candidates that won’t leave.
@ Carolina Girl:
agreed. this is stupid. but what do you expect from the stupid party
Carolina Girl wrote:
I agree. I am more concerned about the amaturish way they handled these accusations than I am the accusations themselves. The accusations themselves sound either fabricated for monetary gain or political purposes (this last one told no one 14 years ago. Really? He practically tried to rape you and you told not one contemporary witness? Yeah, I’m not buying that bridge), but Cain’s response to them was piss poor. He’ll need to up his game if he wants to play at this level. Fair? A fair is a place they give ribbons to prize hogs. Politics is War.
@ Bumr50:
Use of “now” was a blonde moment on my part. I could see us starting debates now. But didn’t they start these back in July or something?
ya know what, i have done extensive public speaking to both large and small groups and i have drawn a blank on occasion. actually, i have a more favorable opinion of perry after his blank than i did before because i know exactly where he was at that moment.
@ Iron Fist:
Absolutely. I’m sure Mark Block is a nice guy but he’s done a horrible job of handling the campaign so far. I don’t care about the maverick aspects of the ad with the cigarette – it took everything away from the issues and made taking a fucking DRAG a national story.
I asked our labor lawyer here in the office what she would have told Cain to say when it first surfaced. She said she would have told him to say this (and I may be paraphrasing here, because unlike Buy-a-lick, I don’t remember word for word conversations from a week ago, much less 15 years ago).
“I would like to respond to your questions, but to do so at this time would be premature, as I do not know the identity of the individual, the specific allegations, or the result of any investigation. Once we have sufficient facts to formulate a response, we will do so.”
She said that while it wouldn’t probably have satisfied the media, it’s a noncommital response and it would have given him time to consult with attorneys, PR staff, etc. and he wouldn’t have had those deer in the headlights moments.
BTW, she’s having trouble believing these women, and she’s a liberal.
Oh, and she had a case where Gloria was the attorney for the plaintiff.
Gloria LOST.
@ Carolina Girl:
I’m not discouraged.
I would like to see him hire a spokesperson, though.
Pretty sure Cain thought he could handle all of that himself.
Amateur (at campaigning?) – yes.
Disqualifying? – not in my book.
I’m sure others disagree.
On November 10, 1975 the bulk freighter Edmund Fitzgerald sank in Lake Superior with all hands. The tragedy was immortalized in song by Gordon Lightfoot.
h/t Breitbart
@ Rodan:
You can’t. They won’t if history tells us anything. If Romney or Gingrich or Perry comes to power, it will be same sh*t, different day, but just slower. We will have a rebound in the economy, but almost all of the regulations will remain, the taxing system will not change, lobbyists will still control the politicians and the government will still be a boot on the neck of freedom in America. Our only chance is that whoever wins the presidency will eschew the liberal policies of the past and shove congress in a hard conservative direction, rooting out the progressives and refusing to negotiate on constitutional principles.
My fantasy would be Romney getting elected and then in his inaugeration speech outlining a solid return to conservatism and constitutional governance and then proceeding to lead that way for the next 4 years.
Why can’t people like Romney see how embracing conservatism would turn EVERYTHING around and would put the country on fast track to once again being the greatest country in the history of the world ever? Conservatism alone would virtually eliminate poverty in America and put our unemployment numbers at like 2%.
All government has to do to turn the economy around is to get the h*ll out of the way. No new regulations or bills or stimulus or new government agency or any income redistribution tax, just shut down half of the government and get out of the way.
@ father_of_10:
Given that Romney is not now, nor has he ever been, a conservative, that’s a hell of a fantasy.
You might as well fantasize about Obama doing it.
It’s about as likely to happen.
father_of_10 wrote:
Because fundamentally they do not believe that America ever was the greatest nation in history. Like Obama and all other Marxists of whatever stripe, they believe that America is fundamentally flawed and needs it’s constitution restructured to provide social and economic justice.