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Millionaires Gone Wild, Pay More Taxes Edition!

by Flyovercountry ( 140 Comments › )
Filed under Economy, Politics, Progressives at November 17th, 2011 - 2:00 pm

Yesterday, it seems as though 24 of our nation’s wealthiest individuals, those rascally 1% if you will, went to Congress to plead to have their taxes raised. “It isn’t fair,” they told Congress, that they are not called upon to do more. It is not patriotic to keep denying the Socialist Utopia that awaits us all, if we would just get out of the way of the revolution already. “We don’t pay enough,” they testified, one after the other. So, Michelle Fields was there at the scene, armed only with an ipad logged onto the IRS Donations page. Guess how many of those 24 souls who were whining about how they should be paying more, actually seized the opportunity to pay more. After guessing, watch the results below.

I found this on the Daily Caller website, which is fast becoming one of my favorite places on the web.  Notice how it was no longer patriotic to simply donate to the IRS, it must be compulsory for all of us in order to attain that lofty perch of patriotism.  So, all of those stories you learned during your elementary Social Studies classes about how heroes sacrificed their well being by voluntarily joining the Revolutionary Army to fight against the British, well forget it all.  Tennessee will have to change their nick name from the Volunteers to the Conscripts.  The new definition of patriotism is to vote to inflict a socialist agenda upon everyone else and to force the end of property rights in America.  I am having a tough time determining my favorite part of the video.  It is either that moment when one of our heroes stated that he already donates to charity, which apparently he believes is more efficient with how it distributes his capital than the government. Or it is the fact that they all seem to agree, that the realization on their part, that the whole question is in fact a source of amusement for those of us on the right, somehow negates the validity of realizing that each and every one of these gentlemen is a flaming hypocrite.  

Stupidity is something which can be afforded.  Each and every one of the men in this video has reached a level of success where they are permanently exempted from the consequences of their actions.  God bless them, each and every one of them.  I wish to enjoy being in that strata of society one day myself.  Until then, I will have to continue working for it.  The fact remains that if these men get their way, they will not have to sacrifice one iota of their lifestyle.  The only thing that will change for them is the reporting on pieces of paper that their teams of accountants and attorneys charged with the fun task of helping them to dodge paying taxes give to them to sign.  The rest of us are always left to deal with the consequences.  It costs us in other ways, fewer jobs, higher inflation, inefficient markets, and much more.  We do not have a wealth gap in America, we have a consequence gap.

There are two groups of people who I distrust above all others.  The first are those demagogues running about telling me to hate, “rich people,”  The second, and perhaps more dangerous than the first, are the super rich folks subsidizing the first group.  The very first fellow in the video, the guy who smirked that he was safely in the 1% and in fact beyond even that metric, filled me with the urge to show some anger.  I was satisfied beyond words watching him back peddle when Ms. Fields gave him the opportunity to give back to us little folk.  

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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140 Responses to “Millionaires Gone Wild, Pay More Taxes Edition!”
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  1. orangecrush
    1 | November 17, 2011 2:07 pm

    They want other peoples taxes raised. If these millionaires had any integrity they would just self pay their taxes and the taxes of people that are poorer than them. These are just lefties working the system to get their social justice ways. Hiding behind fleas and OWS.

    They are saying “the government knows better than I do on how to spend my millions.” They could just give all their millions to me. And I could easily go out and feed the hungry and pay off a lot of underwater mortgages. And I would do it a lot more efficiently that the government. Just that there would be more personal freedom the way I did it. These people would lose out on a chance to muck up America like their idol Obama.


  2. yenta-fada
    2 | November 17, 2011 2:12 pm

    Jim Willie of the ‘Golden Jackass’ again postulates that the enormous debts incurred by government spending, cannot possibly be paid back regardless of how much people are taxed:

    “For the current financial crisis, only one pathway seems likely, although painful. The system cannot be remedied, only patched over. Vast inflation is the only politically viable method of repudiating these unmanageable obligations. Of key importance is the velocity of money in determining whether or not inflation turns into hyper-inflation, which requires final demand not to falter badly. Hyper-inflation requires sustained activity like an engine, which cannot stall. Higher price inflation is coming like night follows day, but probably not an extreme case. It will be painful though, since the cost structure will be the primary damage center. The US Consumer Price Inflation runs at 11.1% in the honest broker Shadow Govt Statistics calculation, which is painful enough.”


  3. Bumr50
    3 | November 17, 2011 2:19 pm

    There will be pain for everyone, sooner or later.


  4. John Difool
    4 | November 17, 2011 2:21 pm

    There is nothing stopping these millionaires from breaking out their check books and stroking Uncle Sugar some extra money.

    What they don’t tell anyone is that they employ an army of tax lawyers to avoid all of that in the first place and if they kiss the right peoples asses and send loads of money to the right party they still won’t have to pay extra even if taxes get raised on the upper percentile.


  5. yenta-fada
    5 | November 17, 2011 2:23 pm

    By the way, I’m hanging on to the middle class barely at my income level. I’m not an apologist for the wealthy by any means. The video, while amusing and true, doesn’t strike the heart of the problems of banks being bailed out and then bankrupt governments trying to find a solution to their own insolvency problems. Allowing polticians to vote themselves more money and perks is something that our species has complained and poked fun at for centuries. Great post, as usual!


  6. yenta-fada
    6 | November 17, 2011 2:24 pm

    @ John Difool:

    Yes. They “donate” first to accountants and lawyers. :-)


  7. yenta-fada
    7 | November 17, 2011 2:29 pm

    Of course, everybody wants to donate to Moochelle’s shopping spree in Hawaii. (I can’t help it. I’m a serial Moochelle watcher/critic)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2061978/Michelle-Obama-says-Aloha-tropical-style-showstopping-Hawaii-wardrobe.html


  8. Bumr50
    8 | November 17, 2011 2:31 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    By the way, I’m hanging on to the middle class barely at my income level

    I’ve noticed a rise in rhetoric coming from mostly the left focusing on “building the middle class.”

    To me, that’s coded class warfare. It implies that people should limit their aspirations to average, and is antithetical to American ideals.

    Please note, there’s nothing wrong with BEING in the middle class (goodness knows I’m BARELY middle class) but it should be simply a condition that exists as a concept (like ‘diversity’) and not a subsidized goal of ‘growing the middle class.’

    The ‘middle class’ phraseology is used to engulf all of the non-uber wealthy class.


  9. 9 | November 17, 2011 2:31 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    And that’s the rub isn’t it. Little bits of temporary pain are as important in a free market economy as those metrics which are felt with success. It was the original promise from a politician that we could avoid always discomfort and pain which creates most of our problems or crises. Pain, for all of its ills actually serves a purpose. It allows us to know that we are participating in an activity which is not smart, or efficient. Pain tells us when to change course. Removing pain from the economy removes those signals that we are doing something wrong. We may like it temporarily, but in the long run, it allows us to do more damage to ourselves.


  10. 10 | November 17, 2011 2:32 pm

    Whinestock


  11. yenta-fada
    11 | November 17, 2011 2:34 pm

    Mark Mobius points out systemic financial problems:

    ” The balance sheets of European banks are even more opaque than American ones. Whatever the actual answer, it’s scary enough that the European Central Bank has refused to entertain any talk about the holders of Greek sovereign debt taking a haircut, even in the form of Greece stretching out its payments.

    That was the preferred solution among German leaders. But it seems the ECB (European Central Bank) is about to get its way. Greece will likely get another bailout — 30 billion euros on top of the 110 billion euro bailout it got a year ago.

    It will accomplish nothing. Going deeper into hock is never a good way to get out of debt. And at some point, this exercise in kicking the can has to stop. When it does, you get your next financial crisis.

    And what of the derivatives sitting on the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve? Here’s another factor behind our heightened state of alert.

    “Through quantitative easing efforts alone,” says Euro Pacific Capital’s Michael Pento, “Ben Bernanke has added $1.8 trillion of longer-term GSE debt (e.g. Fannie and Freddie) and mortgage-backed securities (MBS).”

    Think about that for a moment. The Fed’s entire balance sheet totaled around $800 billion before the 2008 crash, nearly all of it Treasuries. Now the Fed holds more than double that amount in mortgage derivatives alone, junk that the banks needed to clear off their own balance sheets.

    “As the size of the Fed’s balance sheet ballooned,” continues Mr. Pento, “the dollar amount of capital held at the Fed has remained fairly constant. Today, the Fed has $52.5 billion of capital backing a $2.7 trillion balance sheet.

    “Prior to the bursting of the credit bubble, the public was shocked to learn that our biggest investment banks were levered 30-to-1. When asset values fell, those banks were quickly wiped out. But now the Fed is holding many of the same types of assets and is levered 51-to-1! If the value of their portfolio were to fall by just 2%, the Fed itself would be wiped out.”


  12. yenta-fada
    12 | November 17, 2011 2:37 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    The rise of the new Middle Class in India has been extremely beneficial and stabilizing for that country. The absence of a large middle class is a recipe for a declining economy.


  13. Bumr50
    13 | November 17, 2011 2:37 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Excellent!

    And kudos on the blog!


  14. 14 | November 17, 2011 2:38 pm

    The hypocrisy of lying liars exposed, to bad this video will never make the evening news nor go viral as it richly deserves. They know that they are not asking for their own taxes to be increased, but for everyone elses to be increased.


  15. yenta-fada
    15 | November 17, 2011 2:39 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Whinestock

    Nice to see you posting again.


  16. 16 | November 17, 2011 2:40 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    @ yenta-fada:

    Thanks.


  17. m
    17 | November 17, 2011 2:40 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Ain’t that the dang truth!!!


  18. John Difool
    18 | November 17, 2011 2:41 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Whinestock

    I saw someone over at DoD refer to it as “Poopstock” and about spit my drink out.


  19. Bumr50
    19 | November 17, 2011 2:41 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    All one has to do is look at ANY small attempt to remove the bandage.

    Americans of all political persuasions HOWL.

    It’s the reason both flat taxes and fair taxes get panned so thoroughly.

    People have made themselves extremely comfortable within the current system regarding taxes and entitlements. Intelligent, hard-working people and leeches alike.

    I fear that the solutions that need to be embraced will never gain enough support until it’s too late.


  20. 20 | November 17, 2011 2:41 pm

    @ m:

    Yes, I believe it is!


  21. orangecrush
    21 | November 17, 2011 2:42 pm

    @ 2 yenta-fada: Might as well let the economy collapse then. Only the gold owners will make it.


  22. 22 | November 17, 2011 2:42 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Whinestock

    Great Blog dude… :grin:


  23. Bumr50
    23 | November 17, 2011 2:43 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I guess my point was that a robust middle class should be a symptom of a healthy economy, not a specific policy goal (if that makes any sense.)

    Kind of like ‘diversity.’


  24. 24 | November 17, 2011 2:43 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    If the value of their portfolio were to fall by just 2%, the Fed itself would be wiped out

    Well, at least Ron Paul would be happy…


  25. 25 | November 17, 2011 2:44 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    Whinestock

    Great Blog dude…

    Thanks, that’s appreciated.


  26. John Difool
    26 | November 17, 2011 2:46 pm

    Nevermind the fact that even if you raised taxes on millionaires and billionaires it wouldn’t even put a dent in the deficit. Nevermind the fact that the government will just spend even more money with a few extra teats to suck from.


  27. 27 | November 17, 2011 2:47 pm

    They whine bitch and moan about not paying enough in Taxes, yet they refuse to contribute? What a bunch of effeminate assholes!


  28. m
    28 | November 17, 2011 2:48 pm

    @ John Difool:

    Exactly. They’ll never get enough money for everything on their wish lists.


  29. yenta-fada
    29 | November 17, 2011 2:48 pm

    orangecrush wrote:

    @ 2 yenta-fada: Might as well let the economy collapse then. Only the gold owners will make it.

    I never said there is only one form of wealth. Family, friends, health, a job or a trade or a profession that people need, land to grow crops, etc. There are many ways to protect yourself. I just don’t like it that people think of their savings in US dollar CURRENCY will protect them against inflation.


  30. Bumr50
    30 | November 17, 2011 2:49 pm

    Freedomworks is having a debt solution hearing in the Senate today.

    I participated in their survey, from which they will have collated the data and give the presentation.

    Now Reid has locked the doors and banned microphones from the hearing.

    Senate Rules Committee staff on Thursday removed microphones and locked the doors of a hearing room in the Russell Senate Office Building where an informal hearing was scheduled to review the findings of the Tea Party Debt Commission, a months-long crowd-sourced effort to develop a budget proposal that balances the budget, reduces the debt and gets America’s fiscal house back in order

    “The Senate hasn’t been able to pass a budget resolution three years running. They have been unable to do their job, and now the Rules Committee is trying to prevent the American people from doing it for them,” said Matt Kibbe, president of FreedomWorks

    “The Senate has refused to let the American people know what the highly secretive budget ‘Super Committee’ is doing behind closed doors,” Kibbe added. “We’ve come to Washington with the real solutions developed by the American people, and the Rules Committee won’t let their voices be heard in an open forum. It’s outrageous. They’re kicking us out of our own building because they’re afraid we are going to do something crazy like balance the budget.”


  31. 31 | November 17, 2011 2:50 pm

    Bill Whittle drives a large wooden stake through this lie…


  32. 32 | November 17, 2011 2:50 pm

    @ John Difool:

    To maintain this level of spending, they have to rape the middle class and small businesses. Most of that “Tax the Rich” noise is code-speak for hitting small businesses, anyway. It wouldn’t do to just say “We’re going to kill that damned goose that keeps shitting out those golden eggs”…


  33. 33 | November 17, 2011 2:50 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    imagine the chant, “THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY SMELLS LIKE.”


  34. yenta-fada
    34 | November 17, 2011 2:51 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    If the value of their portfolio were to fall by just 2%, the Fed itself would be wiped out
    Well, at least Ron Paul would be happy…

    Luap Nor is a blind squirrel. The Fed owns the “money” franchise the way that Saudi Arabia owns Mecca. The Fed makes money on every dollar produced as well as using the ‘carry trade’.


  35. John Difool
    35 | November 17, 2011 2:55 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Even if Warren Buffet gave away his entire 50-80 billion dollar fortune that’s like throwing a glass of water into lake Michigan. Even if G.E. payed the 4 billion in taxes they got a break from last year that would be like spitting into the Atlantic Ocean.

    No tax increases should be seriously considered or talked about until we figure out a way to cut the Fed in half, not spending but the Fed itself.

    It’s an 800 pound gorilla in a 300 lb. cage.


  36. yenta-fada
    36 | November 17, 2011 2:56 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I guess my point was that a robust middle class should be a symptom of a healthy economy, not a specific policy goal (if that makes any sense.)
    Kind of like ‘diversity.’

    That makes complete sense and is the right way to say it. Government over-regulation and consolidation of their powers is an enemy of free enterprise.


  37. 37 | November 17, 2011 2:57 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    They writing is on the wall about a coming economic apocalypse. I don’t see how we avoid it, long term. Not after the Obama Administration. It is only a matter of time now. I think we still have a good bit of time, but I am going to be spending the next 5 years trying to get ready for the inevitible. After that, it’ll come when it comes.


  38. yenta-fada
    38 | November 17, 2011 2:58 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    Nevermind the fact that even if you raised taxes on millionaires and billionaires it wouldn’t even put a dent in the deficit. Nevermind the fact that the government will just spend even more money with a few extra teats to suck from.

    uptwinkles


  39. 39 | November 17, 2011 2:59 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    [Shakes Head] And the people of Nevada were STUPID enough to vote him back in, even with Sharron Angle running against him.


  40. orangecrush
    40 | November 17, 2011 3:01 pm

    Zombie OWS


  41. John Difool
    41 | November 17, 2011 3:02 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    [Shakes Head] And the people of Nevada were STUPID enough to vote him back in, even with Sharron Angle running against him.

    By “people of Nevada” I assume you mean thousands of cartoon characters, family pets and dead people.


  42. 42 | November 17, 2011 3:03 pm

    @ John Difool:

    Mr.Voter F. Raud always votes Democrat…


  43. yenta-fada
    43 | November 17, 2011 3:04 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    They writing is on the wall about a coming economic apocalypse. I don’t see how we avoid it, long term. Not after the Obama Administration. It is only a matter of time now. I think we still have a good bit of time, but I am going to be spending the next 5 years trying to get ready for the inevitible. After that, it’ll come when it comes.

    Silver backed off today. :-) Just saying…. It’s a good thing I’m only nagging on one blog. lol. You know I agree that unintended debts due to the real estate crash has to be addressed. I know people who settled with their bank to get rid of their ‘income’ property. It was very stressful for them. On the other hand, guys like Jon Corzine who brought down MF Global end up walking away from the chaos they create. I think they had to lay off about 1200 employees and screwed people out of 600 million dollars. One can only hope Corzine does jail time, but history has not punished the biggest thieves.


  44. m
    44 | November 17, 2011 3:06 pm

    @ Macker:

    I think it was because Sharon Angle was running against him.


  45. yenta-fada
    45 | November 17, 2011 3:07 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Bill Whittle drives a large wooden stake through this lie…

    Great vid!


  46. yenta-fada
    46 | November 17, 2011 3:08 pm

    OWS New York is planning to ‘occupy’ the subways today. No comment/


  47. Lost
    47 | November 17, 2011 3:10 pm

    Sorry OT:

    Mr Obama also joked with soldiers about tough training conditions, facing mozzies, snakes and crocs.

    “I was just presented with the most unique gift I’ve ever received as President -- crocodile insurance.

    “My wife Michelle will be relieved,” he declared.


  48. John Difool
    48 | November 17, 2011 3:10 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    OWS New York is planning to ‘occupy’ the subways today. No comment/

    A little lower and they’ll be back in the sewers with most of the rats.


  49. 49 | November 17, 2011 3:10 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    They should be occupying some prison cells. Imagine, if you will, what would have happened had the Tea Party behaved as the OWSers have. It wouldn’t have been pretty.


  50. buzzsawmonkey
    50 | November 17, 2011 3:11 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    Please note, there’s nothing wrong with BEING in the middle class (goodness knows I’m BARELY middle class) but it should be simply a condition that exists as a concept (like ‘diversity’) and not a subsidized goal of ‘growing the middle class.’

    The ‘middle class’ phraseology is used to engulf all of the non-uber wealthy class.

    There used to be a saying that whether you were working class or middle class depended on whether you spent your money on funerals or books.

    “Middle class” at this point basically encompasses everyone who is compensated above the poverty line level, as long as they still have to work for a living. So it’s a pretty broad stratum, encompassing most of the country, in terms of income.

    What really determines the difference between the middle class and the lower class is whether or not one is able to engage in deferred gratification.


  51. 51 | November 17, 2011 3:11 pm

    @ Lost:

    Mozzies? We have them over here, too, but we’re supposed to call them Muslims… :P


  52. 53 | November 17, 2011 3:14 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    The rise of the new Middle Class in India has been extremely beneficial and stabilizing for that country. The absence of a large middle class is a recipe for a declining economy.

    That’s what’s going on here. Progressives in both parties have decalred war on the Middle Class.


  53. yenta-fada
    54 | November 17, 2011 3:15 pm

    orangecrush wrote:

    Zombie OWS

    Ignorance seems to be contagious. I watched “Jaywalking” on Leno one night when my husband was still watching that show. The quiz contestants near the beach could NOT name the ocean they were right next to. These were ‘college students’.


  54. 55 | November 17, 2011 3:16 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    [Shakes Head] And the people of Nevada were STUPID enough to vote him back in, even with Sharron Angle running against him.

    Sharron Angle was a disaster. She was the perfect straw woman for Reid. In fact, he help her get the GOP nomination. She was a false flag operative.


  55. 56 | November 17, 2011 3:16 pm

    m wrote:

    @ Macker:
    I think it was because Sharon Angle was running against him.

    She made Reid look sane. She was an idiot.


  56. buzzsawmonkey
    57 | November 17, 2011 3:16 pm

    Lost wrote:

    Mr Obama also joked,…“I was just presented with the most unique gift I’ve ever received as President – crocodile insurance.”

    Now he can cry those crocodile tears while being fully covered.


  57. 58 | November 17, 2011 3:17 pm

    @ John Difool:

    Danny Tarkanian or Sue Lowden would have wiped the floor clean with Reid. Reid help Angle win the GOP nomination. She was a false flag operative.


  58. Bumr50
    59 | November 17, 2011 3:18 pm

    OT- Sweeping away RINO tracks.

    Scrubbed: Before Leaving Office, Romney Staff Wiped Records From Servers, Bought Their State-Issued Hard Drives…

    (Boston Globe) — Just before Mitt Romney left the Massachusetts governor’s office and first ran for president, 11 of his top aides purchased their state-issued computer hard drives, and the Romney administration’s e-mails were all wiped from a server, according to interviews and records obtained by the Globe.

    Romney administration officials had the remaining computers in the governor’s office replaced just before Governor Deval Patrick’s staff showed up to take power in January 2007, according to Mark Reilly, Patrick’s chief legal counsel.

    As a result, Patrick’s office, which has been bombarded with inquiries for records from the Romney era, has no electronic record of any Romney administration e-mails, Reilly said.


  59. John Difool
    60 | November 17, 2011 3:19 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Lost wrote:
    Mr Obama also joked,…“I was just presented with the most unique gift I’ve ever received as President – crocodile insurance.”
    Now he can cry those crocodile tears while being fully covered.

    He’ll be sorry he didn’t get that wookie insurance after the Mooch rolls over on him in the middle of the night and breaks his back.


  60. yenta-fada
    61 | November 17, 2011 3:19 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    @ Bumr50:
    The rise of the new Middle Class in India has been extremely beneficial and stabilizing for that country. The absence of a large middle class is a recipe for a declining economy.
    That’s what’s going on here. Progressives in both parties have decalred war on the Middle Class.

    You will never get a politician to state that. In fact, they are so far removed from reality, they have convinced themselves that they are representing the ‘people’. Using the term ‘class war’ is an oversimplification in a way because it easily becomes a meaningless slogan. I prefer ‘transnational global governance UN based elites’. Sort of a take-off on your old phrase.


  61. buzzsawmonkey
    62 | November 17, 2011 3:20 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Reid help Angle win the GOP nomination. She was a false flag operative.

    It is, alas, easy to put up false flag operatives if you are fighting an adversary that is diffuse, decentralized, and disorganized—and the Tea Party was, and remains, all of those things.

    The OWS astroturf, which pays lipservice to being diffuse, decentralized, and disorganized, is actually none of those things; it is an operation seeded, funded, and supported by the unions and communist organizations.


  62. yenta-fada
    63 | November 17, 2011 3:21 pm

    Lost wrote:

    Sorry OT:
    Mr Obama also joked with soldiers about tough training conditions, facing mozzies, snakes and crocs.
    “I was just presented with the most unique gift I’ve ever received as President – crocodile insurance.
    “My wife Michelle will be relieved,” he declared.

    Hi! Snark about Imam Ozero and the First Wookie is never off topic for me. lol


  63. 64 | November 17, 2011 3:22 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    Here’s a PDF of the ‘Tea Party Budget’ being presented in the Senate.

    Doomed, even the GOP Aristocrats will attack this as an evil plan with no chance of succeeding.


  64. Lost
    65 | November 17, 2011 3:23 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Lost:

    Mozzies? We have them over here, too, but we’re supposed to call them Muslims…

    Mozzies are mosquitos.


  65. 66 | November 17, 2011 3:23 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    He’ll be sorry he didn’t get that wookie insurance after the Mooch rolls over on him in the middle of the night and breaks his back.

    Na, he’d have to have a spine for that to be a creditable threat, and so far their is no evidence that he does.


  66. yenta-fada
    67 | November 17, 2011 3:24 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    That pretty much puts the Romney administration into a class of its own. Criminal class.


  67. 68 | November 17, 2011 3:24 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    imagine the chant, “THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY SMELLS LIKE.”

    Geez, I saw that clip. Like I’ve said before, crapping in the street pretty much negates any point you were trying to make in the first place -- valid or not.


  68. yenta-fada
    69 | November 17, 2011 3:27 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    Reid help Angle win the GOP nomination. She was a false flag operative.
    It is, alas, easy to put up false flag operatives if you are fighting an adversary that is diffuse, decentralized, and disorganized—and the Tea Party was, and remains, all of those things.
    The OWS astroturf, which pays lipservice to being diffuse, decentralized, and disorganized, is actually none of those things; it is an operation seeded, funded, and supported by the unions and communist organizations.

    We will never know how many of those ‘occupiers’ are being paid a salary for various types of behaviors.


  69. 70 | November 17, 2011 3:27 pm

    What a bunch of sack-o-shit liars…

    “We’ve not had a conversation like this within the party in two decades”

    Growing Republican support for raising taxes to help reduce the deficit has prompted a GOP identity crisis, sparking a clash within the party over whether to abandon its bedrock anti-tax doctrine.

    Tensions have mounted in recent days as two of the GOP’s most fervent anti-tax stalwarts on Capitol Hill — Sen. Patrick J. Toomey (Pa.) and Rep. Jeb Hensarling (Tex.) — have lobbied party colleagues behind the scenes to forgo their old allegiances and even break campaign promises by embracing hundreds of billions of dollars in tax hikes.

    Since when have the Republicans had a bedrock anti-tax doctrine?


  70. John Difool
    71 | November 17, 2011 3:28 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I’ll bet a lot of that so called ‘salary’ is our own tax money.


  71. 72 | November 17, 2011 3:30 pm

    @ John Difool:

    They prefer it to be called “Reparations”, anyway… 8O


  72. 73 | November 17, 2011 3:30 pm

    @ John Difool:

    Of course it is! We pay their salary!


  73. 74 | November 17, 2011 3:30 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    Very Nixonian!


  74. 75 | November 17, 2011 3:32 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Very good point. OWS has a centralized command, probably Van Jones.


  75. coldwarrior
    76 | November 17, 2011 3:32 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    really!?!

    well isnt that interesting


  76. John Difool
    77 | November 17, 2011 3:33 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Very good point. OWS has a centralized command, probably Van Jones.

    No doubt, he predicted it back in August and said it was going to happen. No accident there.


  77. 78 | November 17, 2011 3:33 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Since when have the Republicans had a bedrock anti-tax doctrine?

    Muslim Brotherhood agent Grover Norquist is the one has given that impression. It’s a media myth.


  78. 79 | November 17, 2011 3:34 pm

    @ John Difool:

    Those Flash Mobs, were just test runs for this. Notice since OWS appeared, there are no more flash mob attacks? Coincidence? Nope.

    Osprey said it was Van Jones and he was right!


  79. coldwarrior
    80 | November 17, 2011 3:35 pm

    2012 Iowa Republican Caucus
    Iowa: Gingrich 32%, Romney 19%, Cain 13%

    over 30%…hmmm


  80. 81 | November 17, 2011 3:35 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Romney comes from the Nixon wing of the GOP.


  81. John Difool
    82 | November 17, 2011 3:35 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Interesting indeed.


  82. coldwarrior
    83 | November 17, 2011 3:36 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Sen. Patrick J. Toomey (Pa.) and Rep. Jeb Hensarling (Tex.) — have lobbied party colleagues behind the scenes to forgo their old allegiances and even break campaign promises by embracing hundreds of billions of dollars in tax hikes.

    Since when have the Republicans had a bedrock anti-tax doctrine?

    toomey???

    i need to see some detail about that, i have a feeling the press is warping the reality here.


  83. coldwarrior
    84 | November 17, 2011 3:37 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Romney comes from the Nixon wing of the GOP.

    i didnt know a governor could do that, i though all that communication is part of the public record.


  84. 85 | November 17, 2011 3:37 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Something is going on out there. In my office a few non political people are talking about Newt. I was stunned. These people either parrot our company’s Leftist lines or don’t speak about politics. The funny part when I walked in them they got quiet because they think I’m a Lefty. But I heard them speaking highly about Newt.


  85. 86 | November 17, 2011 3:39 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Increasing Revenue is not always increasing Taxes. Toomey probably wants to end subsidies for Millionaires like Bon Jovi.


  86. 87 | November 17, 2011 3:39 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Bumr50:

    Very Nixonian!

    I once heard Nixon described, in his later years, as “the Darth Vader of elder statesmen. Very apt, I think


  87. 88 | November 17, 2011 3:39 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I think each state has different laws.


  88. yenta-fada
    89 | November 17, 2011 3:41 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I’ll bet a lot of that so called ‘salary’ is our own tax money.

    Not only that, but parasites like Soros manipulate stock markets, commodities and currencies with insider bets. Some of these billionaires are literally destroying the pensions of municipalities, States, and individual pension plans. People who never wanted to or should be in the market are stuck there by government tax legislation.
    We take money out of our private retirement savings on a regular basis. A greedy government, imho, will tap into those by requiring people to buy some form of government paper at some point.


  89. 90 | November 17, 2011 3:42 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    Increasing Revenue is not always increasing Taxes. Toomey probably wants to end subsidies for Millionaires like Bon Jovi.

    Good point. Real tax reform would be very “revenue positive”, and that would be a good thing.


  90. Bumr50
    91 | November 17, 2011 3:43 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Here’s Rush’s take…

    Media Misrepresents GOP Plan to Raise Tax Revenue

    I like Rush.

    There are some increasingly kneejerk, cantankerous, reactionary conservative bloggers with well-established sites that have a different take (I bring this up because it’s annoying the hell out of me recently), but I think that Toomey is being strategic here.


  91. 92 | November 17, 2011 3:45 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    Something is going on out there. In my office a few non political people are talking about Newt. I was stunned. These people either parrot our company’s Leftist lines or don’t speak about politics. The funny part when I walked in them they got quiet because they think I’m a Lefty. But I heard them speaking highly about Newt.

    You know, he was Speaker more than 20 years ago. That’s a lifetime.


  92. 93 | November 17, 2011 3:47 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    It has been for me, and it has felt like a lifetime… :roll:


  93. coldwarrior
    94 | November 17, 2011 3:47 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I think each state has different laws.

    i am sure they do, bu this is rather unusual.


  94. buzzsawmonkey
    95 | November 17, 2011 3:47 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Those Flash Mobs, were just test runs for this. Notice since OWS appeared, there are no more flash mob attacks? Coincidence? Nope.

    Neither Barack Obama, nor his attorney general Eric Holder, has said one word condemning the racist flash mob attacks of this past year.

    Whether Van Jones is Obama’s Ernst Rohm is yet to be seen.


  95. coldwarrior
    96 | November 17, 2011 3:48 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Something is going on out there. In my office a few non political people are talking about Newt. I was stunned. These people either parrot our company’s Leftist lines or don’t speak about politics. The funny part when I walked in them they got quiet because they think I’m a Lefty. But I heard them speaking highly about Newt.

    good.

    i am going to conduct and informal poll this weekend as well…


  96. coldwarrior
    97 | November 17, 2011 3:50 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    Here’s Rush’s take…

    Media Misrepresents GOP Plan to Raise Tax Revenue

    I like Rush.

    i knew the media were trying to spin this, toomey is a serious fiscon, no way he would want to raise taxes


  97. 98 | November 17, 2011 3:51 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I could live with Newt, but I’m not sure he doesn’t intend to shop us to Romney. He’s a RINO’s RINO, and the very definition of Elite. I don’t trust him as far as I could carry my Harley…


  98. John Difool
    99 | November 17, 2011 3:51 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Newt would wipe the floor with Oba’Mao in a debate that much is clear but on the chance he does get the nomination he better keep his wife far away from the cameras until he can get her to tone down her ‘Lisa Douglas’ a notch.


  99. 100 | November 17, 2011 3:55 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I think that’s called using one’s principles against one. When the media lectures me about who’s a conservative and who isn’t, my BS meter squeals.


  100. yenta-fada
    101 | November 17, 2011 3:55 pm

    Ann Barnhardt, the Koran burner and anti-Jihadist, closes her brokerage business. She says people who trade options and futures are no longer safe doing business in this financial system.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/entire-system-has-been-utterly-destroyed-mf-global-collapse-presenting-first-mf-global-casualty


  101. 102 | November 17, 2011 3:55 pm

    @ John Difool:

    Ya know, I would take Lisa Douglas any day of the week and twice on Sunday over the Wookie. Especially when the Wookie makes it a habit to lecture me on what to eat and in what endeavors I should be working towards.


  102. 103 | November 17, 2011 3:55 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Whether Van Jones is Obama’s Ernst Rohm is yet to be seen.

    Does that mean Van Jones will end up the same way Herr Rohm did?


  103. 104 | November 17, 2011 3:57 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Newt would wipe the floor with Oba’Mao in a debate that much is clear but on the chance he does get the nomination he better keep his wife far away from the cameras until he can get her to tone down her ‘Lisa Douglas’ a notch.

    Yeah, I get the impression That her mind wasn’t what Newt was attracted to.


  104. yenta-fada
    105 | November 17, 2011 3:57 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    The short form of #101

    “Finally, I will not, under any circumstance, consider reforming and re-opening Barnhardt Capital Management, or any other iteration of a brokerage business, until Barack Obama has been removed from office AND the government of the United States has been sufficiently reformed and repopulated so as to engender my total and complete confidence in the government, its adherence to and enforcement of the rule of law, and in its competent and just regulatory oversight of any commodities markets that may reform. So long as the government remains criminal, it would serve no purpose whatsoever to attempt to rebuild the futures industry or my firm, because in a lawless environment, the same thievery and fraud would simply happen again, and the criminals would go unpunished, sheltered by the criminal oligarchy.”


  105. yenta-fada
    106 | November 17, 2011 3:59 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Ms. Barnhardt will NOT be ‘occupying’ Wall Street, but in her own unique way, just quits doing business.


  106. John Difool
    107 | November 17, 2011 4:00 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    Ya know, I would take Lisa Douglas any day of the week and twice on Sunday over the Wookie. Especially when the Wookie makes it a habit to lecture me on what to eat and in what endeavors I should be working towards.

    Me too and I could care less about the spouse of a candidate because mostly Republican first ladies have stayed away from policy unlike most Democrat first ladies who try to craft it and I could also care less about wealth and the frivolities of it when it’s money earned but the media won’t be going after the wookster with the long knives.

    From what I understand Newt’s other half is the epitome of the spoiled rotten trophy wife. She just needs to put away the pocket pooch, the 50k diamond necklaces and the fur coats for awhile.


  107. 108 | November 17, 2011 4:01 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Agreed!


  108. 109 | November 17, 2011 4:02 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I think the Flash Mobs were a trial run for this Occupy stuff. It’s to create a “Popular Uprising ™”


  109. 110 | November 17, 2011 4:03 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Exactly!


  110. John Difool
    111 | November 17, 2011 4:04 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I think teh Flash Mobs were a trail run for this Occuoy stuff. It’s to create a “Popular Uprising ™”

    More like a trial run for Röhm-Putsch against conservatives


  111. buzzsawmonkey
    112 | November 17, 2011 4:04 pm

    Macker wrote:

    Does that mean Van Jones will end up the same way Herr Rohm did?

    I make no predictions; as I said, it is not yet even certain that Jones is fulfilling an Ernst Rohm role.

    I will, however, observe that both the National Socialists and the “international” Socialists who ran the Soviet Union (not to mention those that run North Korea and China) have, historically, purged those whom they felt threatened them or had outlived their usefulness.


  112. buzzsawmonkey
    113 | November 17, 2011 4:05 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    a “Popular Uprising ™”

    More like a popular upchucking, if you ask me…


  113. Bumr50
    114 | November 17, 2011 4:06 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Good post.

    Will we ever get around to vetting Mitt Romney?

    All of the Bain stuff, including an unaired Kennedy ad against him.


  114. buzzsawmonkey
    115 | November 17, 2011 4:07 pm

    Since we’re discussing OWS, Jon Stewart pokes them with a sharp stick.

    This is funny.


  115. John Difool
    116 | November 17, 2011 4:08 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I think Jones is the real deal communist revolutionary that would make Che Guevarra proud, he’s the sort of guy you would meet out in the killing fields. Think about it, this guy was knee deep in felonious assault and malicious wounding during the L.A. riots so he seems to have plenty of stomach for the “wet work” when it all comes down.


  116. Nevergiveup
    117 | November 17, 2011 4:09 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Since we’re discussing OWS, Jon Stewart pokes them with a sharp stick.

    This is funny.

    Watch the idiot try to explain why his “personal” property, his iPad is his, while our “Private Property” is also his and not ours?


  117. 118 | November 17, 2011 4:12 pm

    @ John Difool:

    They can be Rohm, But I will be Carlos Castano.


  118. 119 | November 17, 2011 4:12 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    :lol:

    Chuck that name!


  119. coldwarrior
    120 | November 17, 2011 4:21 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    seriously, bain capital will ensure that 0 beats romney. its an ace in the hole that will cost us the presidency and seats in the house and senate because of gop and indies staying at home in pa,oh,in,mi,fl,nc


  120. coldwarrior
    121 | November 17, 2011 4:21 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:
    Since we’re discussing OWS, Jon Stewart pokes them with a sharp stick.
    This is funny.

    Watch the idiot try to explain why his “personal” property, his iPad is his, while our “Private Property” is also his and not ours?

    what’s min is mine, what’s yours is mine…simple, no?


  121. 122 | November 17, 2011 4:25 pm

    the ows livestream over at hotair of the assholes rioting on 5th ave is incredible. http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/17/ows-day-of-action-storm-wall-street-disguised-in-business-suits/


  122. 123 | November 17, 2011 4:26 pm

    mfkers have disrupted countless people just living their lives.

    link: http://www.ustream.tv/theother99


  123. John Difool
    124 | November 17, 2011 4:28 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:

    Any good hippy beatings take place so far? I hope I didn’t miss any.


  124. Nevergiveup
    125 | November 17, 2011 4:30 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:
    Did you make it to Veterans Day?


  125. 126 | November 17, 2011 4:36 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    Any good hippy beatings take place so far? I hope I didn’t miss any.

    There is a huge police presence and the hippie scum can’t understand why we don’t want our city shut down. It’s getting dark and it’s going to be harder to control these animals.


  126. 127 | November 17, 2011 4:38 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    No. How was it?


  127. John Difool
    128 | November 17, 2011 4:40 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    John Difool wrote:
    @ Urban Infidel:
    Any good hippy beatings take place so far? I hope I didn’t miss any.

    There is a huge police presence and the hippie scum can’t understand why we don’t want our city shut down. It’s getting dark and it’s going to be harder to control these animals.

    A few minutes ago the camera panned to show a bunch of NY’s finest disembarking from busses in full riot gear cheerfully patting their batons. Looks like they’re looking forward to it.


  128. Nevergiveup
    129 | November 17, 2011 4:40 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    No. How was it?

    Fun. Waited about 3 hours to march, marched, and then got drunk.


  129. RIX
    130 | November 17, 2011 4:44 pm

    What up? I just watched the video, & picked up
    one of the showboat one Percenters calling for more
    taxes for the rich & the “MIDDLE CLASS!”
    I never doubted for a minute that this is the continuation
    of the war on the middle class that started under LBJ.


  130. 131 | November 17, 2011 4:52 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:

    What is Bloomberg doing? Where is the NYPD?


  131. Nevergiveup
    132 | November 17, 2011 4:56 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:

    What is Bloomberg doing? Where is the NYPD?

    Nero and the Fiddle


  132. 133 | November 17, 2011 4:59 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Rudy would never allow this stuff. This will hurt NY big time economically. My company is thinking of moving more of their operations down here to Tampa because of this.

    Bloomberg is just as bad as David Dinkins.


  133. John Difool
    134 | November 17, 2011 4:59 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    What is Bloomberg doing? Where is the NYPD?

    I hope he has a front row seat to the potential pandemonium and carnage. He could have put a stop to this from day one.


  134. 135 | November 17, 2011 5:01 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    I’m so angry about this. Although I live in Tampa, NY is still in my heart. I am lucky I live down here. I would have to get bailed out. This is so fucking wrong.


  135. 136 | November 17, 2011 5:01 pm

    @ John Difool:

    He supports this.


  136. 137 | November 17, 2011 5:01 pm

    New Thread!


  137. orangecrush
    138 | November 17, 2011 8:00 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey: Funny… All these OWS people are people who aren’t called to account. Bill Ayers types. OBama loves them. He is thinking about what he can make out of these people. Useful idiots is the perfect term for them.


  138. orangecrush
    139 | November 17, 2011 8:02 pm

    IT’s like Seattle has a protest every other day that shuts down traffic. And the mayor supports it. lol


  139. orangecrush
    140 | November 17, 2011 8:04 pm

    @ 117 Nevergiveup: These are the insane hysterical people that need to be slapped around until some common sense blossoms forth.


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