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Hazmat Suits, The True Symbol Of The Occupests.

by Flyovercountry ( 75 Comments › )
Filed under Uncategorized at December 5th, 2011 - 11:30 am

A curious article appeared in the L.A. Times this week.  The true symbol of the occupests which pocked our national landscape this autumn may very well be the hazmat suit.  As it happens, our next to become adults generation is not only emotionally vacuous, intellectually stunted, more than a little messy, but we who raised them could have done much better in the area of potty training as well.

The sheer volume of personal belongings left behind after the early morning Los Angeles Police Department raid has astonished city workers: books and CDs, luggage and boom boxes, mattresses and dining chairs, cellphones, electric razors, a small red guitar with its neck snapped –- all surrounded by dozens of collapsed and empty tents.
A steady flow of people stopped by the park Wednesday to take photos and video and watch workers in white hazmat suits rake trash into neat piles.
As workers broke down tents and placed them in trash cans, Ramir Delgado, 25, snapped photos out of curiosity.
“It’s a shame how I see all trash around here,” he said. He pointed to his head. “People don’t understand that the freedom starts here in your mind.”
Delgado said he was disappointed in Occupy L.A.
 ”You know why this is filthy and not clean is there isn’t leadership,” he said.
A few feet away, crews in the hazmat suits raked trash of discarded protest signs, nail polish and jars of peanut butter.

Emphasis mine.

For those of you who have not caught on to what the L.A. Times is clearly attempting to gloss over here, hazmat suits are not worn by people merely picking up a little harmless trash. These suits are worn by people who wish to avoid the sickness involved with cleaning up some of the nastier bio hazards. In short, there must have been a hell of a lot of human waste in the down town L.A. park.  Compare the coverage of the Tea Parties to what is going on with the occupests.  Also compare the police blotters, and the aftermath.  Zero arrests at the Tea Party Rallies, all rallies purchased permits from the local municipalities and left their protests in cleaner condition than when they started.  The occupests on the other hand, thousands of arrests, squatting on public, and in some instances private property, and left behind tons of trash, human waste and had to have people in protective suits clean up after them.  The Tea Partiers were denigrated as hate mongering racist thugs on the verge of violent behavior.  The occupests were covered as being representative of 99% of all Americans and the mainstream of American thought.

Throughout all of this, I have been reading fluff pieces from many different sources.  What staggers the imagination is the realization that very few ever took the time to critically consider what these self entitled little punks were actually demanding.  Quite simply, they wish to be taken care of by others whom they do not know.  After borrowing a couple of hundred grand to go to college to study some worthless field, they were shocked to learn that being a counter clerk pouring coffee to self righteous former hippies at Starbucks would not generate an income sufficient to repay the loans used to purchase their feel good fields of study.  Rather than get mad at the people who lied to them in the first place, by telling them that it would be a good idea to go and get a degree in Sociology, they got mad at the folks who funded their 4 years of binge drinking, projectile vomiting, and waking to freshly manicured lawns, never once actually gaining any useful understanding to the very real world they would some day inhabit.  As for their list of demands, which I have linked to here, once again, they can only be characterized as asinine.  But that description does not really do justice as to how vacuous these societal parasites really are.  Consider that they did not even have a list of demands nor an actual reason for their protests when they actually started all of this, in August.  It was a full 2 months of this nonsense before they told us what got their panties in a bunch in the first place.  For serious people who are productive members of society, public protests are the last resort to garner the attention of an unresponsive and unaccountable government.  For the spoiled children generation, protesting was the first impulsive action of a generation asked to support themselves.  Blaming the banks for their plight merely tells me that these brats either were not taught basic economics from a qualified teacher, at any time in their lives, or they slept through the classes.  The fact that they found toileting such a challenge makes me think the latter may be the case.  Either way it matters not to me.  Hose the brats off, force them to bathe, and allow them to either starve or support themselves.

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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75 Responses to “Hazmat Suits, The True Symbol Of The Occupests.”
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  1. buzzsawmonkey
    1 | December 5, 2011 11:32 am

    Somebody needs to do an “Occupy LOLcat” with an “I Can Haz Mat” caption.


  2. Bumr50
    2 | December 5, 2011 11:35 am

    Donna Edwards approves.


  3. waldensianspirit
    3 | December 5, 2011 11:54 am

    How many hazmat personnel worked Tea Party cleanup?


  4. waldensianspirit
    4 | December 5, 2011 11:56 am

    Report: UN To Tax Americans To Pay For “Green Climate Fund”…

    Bring it bitches


  5. 5 | December 5, 2011 11:56 am

    A few feet away, crews in the hazmat suits raked trash of discarded protest signs, nail polish and jars of peanut butter.

    By their habits, the OWS crowd tells us how much use they really have for environmentalism. Like everything else with these freaks, “Environmentalism” is just a code word for them telling other people (the Little People™ or, as Hitler referred to them, die Untermenchen) how to live. Such rules and strictures do not apply to them because they are the, like, you know, Ruling Class. Born to Rule! They have great self-esteem, whatever other faults they might have…


  6. 6 | December 5, 2011 12:00 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    :lol:

    They can’t do crap.


  7. 7 | December 5, 2011 12:12 pm

    Dilbert explains what its creator thinks of the Occupests™

    (Hat Tip: P. Ness Lowell)


  8. Nevergiveup
    8 | December 5, 2011 12:16 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    Donna Edwards approves.

    That is some creepy shit. Best argument I ever saw for allowing carry permits with bat shit crazies like that out there


  9. 9 | December 5, 2011 12:17 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    Bring it. I’m not ready for it, but I bet I am more ready than the Occupests™…


  10. Prebanned
    10 | December 5, 2011 12:22 pm

    I am sad it is ending, The cities should put up fences and charge admission.
    Scientists could study how epidemics move through a population.
    Schoolchildren could be “scared straight”.
    Brown beans could be given as rations for one week before beano was supplied, this would settle my curiosity once and for all.


  11. Buffalobob
    11 | December 5, 2011 12:25 pm

    Mike check mike check, “This is what the Democratic party looks like now”. Are there any papers published on what happens to bed wetters? Is it possible that most of these OWS nitwits are a manifestation of poor potty training? I see a Sociology Nobel prize potential here.


  12. Nevergiveup
    12 | December 5, 2011 12:27 pm

    Buffalobob wrote:

    Mike check mike check, “This is what the Democratic party looks like now”. Are there any papers published on what happens to bed wetters? Is it possible that most of these OWS nitwits are a manifestation of poor potty training? I see a Sociology Nobel prize potential here.

    Oh G-D please let them do up twinkles and repeating everything at the Dem Convention. Oh what a show that would be


  13. waldensianspirit
    13 | December 5, 2011 12:28 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    You know Pelosi is just dying to up twinkle


  14. 14 | December 5, 2011 12:30 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:

    Wouldn’t that be a hoot? The choice could never be starker: on one side, darkness, barbarism, and disease, on the other, if not sweetness and light, and least sanity and hygine…


  15. RIX
    15 | December 5, 2011 12:31 pm

    The Chicago Tribune has a story about a reverend now
    living on the roof of an abandoned motel in a high cime area.
    As a yoot he used to visit the place that was a crack house
    & house of prostitution.
    Some Occupy Chicago Yoots are joining him today to protest
    violence.
    It is billed as Occupy Chicago joins Occupy the Hood.
    Lets see,pampered suburban, snot nosed kids now in the Hood.
    What could go wrong?


  16. Bumr50
    16 | December 5, 2011 12:32 pm

    @ RIX:

    They will complain when they get robbed, hustled, and left wondering when that guy’s going to come back with their bag of weed.


  17. 17 | December 5, 2011 12:32 pm

    @ RIX:

    It could be an educational experience for them. They say a conservative is a Liberal who has been mugged…


  18. Prebanned
    18 | December 5, 2011 12:33 pm

    @ Nevergiveup:
    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ Nevergiveup:
    You know Pelosi is just dying to up twinkle

    I guess it is no longer a mystery why Pelosi and the rest of them are so dang dumb.
    Look at the voting base that produced them.


  19. citizen_q
    19 | December 5, 2011 12:34 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    Bumr50 wrote:
    Donna Edwards approves.

    That is some creepy shit. Best argument I ever saw for allowing carry permits with bat shit crazies like that out there

    Figures, demonrat from MD.

    Unfortunately it is rulers like that who keep CCW out of the reach of everyone but a select few. They want us all as vulnerable to the mob as possible with them as its puppet master.

    BTW, what is up with the chanting repetition of what others are saying? Some kind of cultic indoctrination?


  20. waldensianspirit
  21. Nevergiveup
    21 | December 5, 2011 12:35 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    BTW, what is up with the chanting repetition of what others are saying? Some kind of cultic indoctrination?

    Mindless group thought?


  22. lobo91
    22 | December 5, 2011 12:40 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ RIX:
    It could be an educational experience for them. They say a conservative is a Liberal who has been mugged…

    What do you call a liberal who’s been gang raped and gutted like a fish?

    Oh, right…dead.


  23. 23 | December 5, 2011 12:42 pm

    @ lobo91:

    A good Liberal? Only I’d leave out tha gang rape…


  24. coldwarrior
    24 | December 5, 2011 12:45 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:
    BTW, what is up with the chanting repetition of what others are saying? Some kind of cultic indoctrination?

    Mindless group thought?

    its called the ‘human microphone’


  25. lobo91
    25 | December 5, 2011 12:45 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    A good Liberal? Only I’d leave out tha gang rape…

    I wasn’t planning to do it personally.


  26. Prebanned
    26 | December 5, 2011 12:47 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    @ lobo91:
    A good Liberal? Only I’d leave out tha gang rape…
    I wasn’t planning to do it personally.

    But You will if You have too, right?
    LOL


  27. Prebanned
    27 | December 5, 2011 12:48 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Sorry


  28. RIX
    28 | December 5, 2011 12:50 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ RIX:
    They will complain when they get robbed, hustled, and left wondering when that guy’s going to come back with their bag of weed.

    It’s gotta happen & they will blame anybody except
    the guys that did it to them.


  29. 29 | December 5, 2011 12:50 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Similar to the Human Centiped, or whatever it is Buzz is always going on about? :lol:


  30. lobo91
    30 | December 5, 2011 12:52 pm

    @ RIX:

    They never blame criminals for anything they do.


  31. RIX
    31 | December 5, 2011 12:52 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ RIX:
    It could be an educational experience for them. They say a conservative is a Liberal who has been mugged…</blockquote

    >

    Representatives of the Occupy Movement are now claiming
    that their members have been traumatized.
    It seems that the plasic cuffs that the cops use
    stressed them. They are looking for free counseling.


  32. RIX
    32 | December 5, 2011 12:54 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:
    They never blame criminals for anything they do.

    Right, because the meme is that society drove them
    to crime.


  33. lobo91
    33 | December 5, 2011 12:55 pm

    @ RIX:

    I’ll give them free counseling:

    “Don’t do shit to cause the cops to arrest you in mass numbers and you won’t have to be flex-cuffed.”

    How’s that?


  34. Prebanned
    34 | December 5, 2011 12:57 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    @ RIX:
    It could be an educational experience for them. They say a conservative is a Liberal who has been mugged…

    Representatives of the Occupy Movement are now claiming
    that their members have been traumatized.
    It seems that the plasic cuffs that the cops use
    stressed them. They are looking for free counseling.
    Done, R. Lee Ermey has volunteered.


  35. citizen_q
    35 | December 5, 2011 12:57 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:
    BTW, what is up with the chanting repetition of what others are saying? Some kind of cultic indoctrination?

    Mindless group thought?

    its called the ‘human microphone’

    Creepyily riualistic


  36. Nevergiveup
    36 | December 5, 2011 1:00 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Creepyily riualistic

    And the fact that they, and their Democratic/Union overlords don’t recognize that is also pretty scary


  37. lobo91
    37 | December 5, 2011 1:00 pm

    Chris Rock produced a helpful PSA for them:


  38. RIX
    38 | December 5, 2011 1:00 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:
    I’ll give them free counseling:
    “Don’t do shit to cause the cops to arrest you in mass numbers and you won’t have to be flex-cuffed.”
    How’s that?

    That would not compute with them.


  39. RIX
    39 | December 5, 2011 1:02 pm

    @ Prebanned:
    They would enjoy Lee Ermey/


  40. Prebanned
    40 | December 5, 2011 1:03 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:
    Creepyily riualistic
    And the fact that they, and their Democratic/Union overlords don’t recognize that is also pretty scary

    That is true, a sane person would walk away.


  41. 41 | December 5, 2011 1:08 pm

    Nevergiveup wrote:

    And the fact that they, and their Democratic/Union overlords don’t recognize that is also pretty scary

    They see that as a feature, not a bug. That should scare the bejeezus out of every sane person left in America. These freaks want nothing more than a Stadium filled with people, mindlessly repeating the same phrases. They want every stadium in America to be that way, yet they look down on organized (Christian) religion…


  42. 42 | December 5, 2011 1:09 pm

    @ RIX:

    They certainly would:


  43. Nevergiveup
    43 | December 5, 2011 1:12 pm

    Speaking of the OWS and STUPID:

    NEWTON, N.C. – A Hickory man is facing multiple charges, including DWI, after slamming into a DWI mobile command center Sunday morning.

    The incident happened on US 321 at the intersection of 9th Street around 2:45 a.m.

    Law enforcement officers were conducting a DWI checkpoint when a 1989 red Chevy Camaro rammed into the back of the “Booze it and Lose it” mobile unit. People were inside the unit at the time, but no one was hurt.

    Newton police say 21-year-old Douglas Shane Southard was driving the Camaro. Southard was transported to Catawba Memorial with non-life threatening injuries.

    As of Monday morning Southard is listed in stable condition.

    He is also charged with driving with a revoked license, careless and reckless driving and failure to reduce speed to avoid an accident.


  44. common_sense
    44 | December 5, 2011 1:15 pm

    If no one else has posted this, please accept my offering of the true and complete story of the UC Davis pepper spray incident. I’ll offer an overview for those that don’t have 15 minutes to watch it.

    Cops were called to remove tents.
    protestors physically blocked their egress after dismantling tents and arresting a few who impeded them.
    read that again, they blocked in the cops and were chanting threats at them. If you ask me, and watch for yourself, the cops were too restrained.

    Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjXcaoEAkq4&feature=youtu.be&hd=1


  45. 45 | December 5, 2011 1:19 pm

    @ common_sense:

    There is a reason they call them “riot guns”…


  46. common_sense
    46 | December 5, 2011 1:21 pm

    you know, if it’s “news” perhaps my post should be used by one of the moderators as a full fledged posting. It’s a big deal if you ask me.


  47. 47 | December 5, 2011 1:21 pm

    @ common_sense:

    I wonder how these effeminate idiots will feel, 20 years down the road, if their home towns were eradicated by the war with the Mohammedans due to their actions. Oh wait a minute…they’re too busy frakking each other for frakking’s sake.


  48. buzzsawmonkey
    48 | December 5, 2011 1:26 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Similar to the Human Centiped, or whatever it is Buzz is always going on about?

    I might have mentioned the Human Centipede once, but it is not a favorite topic of discussion with me. For my money, the Occupiers resemble nothing so much as the kids on the island in Lord of the Flies.

    What I find truly astonishing is that none of these “green solutions”-type people have hit on the notion of using—get this—a megaphone. You know, a plain, ordinary, unamplified, non-electronic…megaphone. The kind that Rudy Vallee used. The kind that coxswains still use when working with the crew. They would not count as “amplified” sound, since they are not electrical or electronic. They would not get out of order, because there is nothing to get out of order. I have to assume that megaphones are not used because:

    1) The Occupiers are so dirt-ignorant and historically-challenged that they do not know such things exist, and

    2) It is a conscious decision by the leaders and organizers of this rabble, who spend much time pretending that they are not leading and organizing, to avoid drawing attention to themselves by possession of paraphernalia; to foster the illusion in the lemmings they are leading that they are not, in fact, being led; and to brainwash the lemmings by having them mindlessly repeat whatever the “mike check” person is blathering.


  49. coldwarrior
    49 | December 5, 2011 1:27 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    They see that as a feature, not a bug. That should scare the bejeezus out of every sane person left in America. These freaks want nothing more than a Stadium filled with people, mindlessly repeating the same phrases. They want every stadium in America to be that way, yet they look down on organized (Christian) religion…

    pol pot was real big on everyone repeating/hearing the same phrases over and over


  50. Bumr50
    50 | December 5, 2011 1:28 pm

    @ common_sense:

    We’ve got a pretty open admission policy here!

    I’ve done several guest posts, and you really don’t have to do a whole lot -- just do a short write-up with most of the piece highlighted, a link, and perhaps a short personal take.

    For an “awareness” thing like this, it shouldn’t take more than a couple minutes. Not saying you HAVE to, but I find it fun.

    Just send it to the blog’s gmail addy.


  51. coldwarrior
    51 | December 5, 2011 1:29 pm

    @ common_sense:

    lemme see what i can do here…we have a slot in special report i can use…

    write it up and send it in, and i will post it pronto!


  52. coldwarrior
    52 | December 5, 2011 1:31 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    3) a method of brainwashing.


  53. NoThreat2U
    53 | December 5, 2011 1:32 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Hey, how did you do on your big test today?


  54. Runner
    54 | December 5, 2011 1:34 pm

    Here in Maine, the Occupy Portland group has been told by the city that they actually need permits to be in the area where they are and that technically, they cannot spend the night. This after a couple of months of “occupy”. The group told the city council that we’ll look at your laws and decide whether or not we accept them. The meek, liberal city council is walking on eggshells around this group. Portland just elected a Mayor for the first time in 60 or 70 years (normally just a city council and city manager) and the new guy has expressed solidarity with them and said he will not enforce the laws on the books.


  55. coldwarrior
    55 | December 5, 2011 1:34 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Hey, how did you do on your big test today?

    stomped it, gusee i am good at labor/delivery! :lol:

    i live to fight on! one more semester to go.


  56. 56 | December 5, 2011 1:35 pm

    This provides a nice counterpoint to Common_Sense’s article. I especially like this:

    And in June, the Department of Education’s Office of Inspector General sent its SWAT team into the home of Kenneth Wright in Stockton, Calif., rousing him and his three young daughters from their beds at gunpoint. Initial reports indicated the raid was because Wright’s estranged wife had defaulted on her student loans. The Department of Education issued a press release stating that the investigation was related to embezzlement and fraud — though why embezzlement and fraud necessitate a SWAT team isn’t clear, not to mention that the woman hadn’t lived at the house that was raided for more than a year. Ignoring these details, however, still leaves the question of why the Department of Education needs a SWAT team in the first place.

    The Department of the Interior also has one, as does the Consumer Products Safety Commission. Last August, gun-toting federal marshals raided the Gibson Guitar factory in Nashville, Tenn. The reason? The company is under investigation for importing wood that wasn’t properly treated.

    In 2006, a group of Tibetan monks inadvertently overstayed their visas while touring the U.S. on a peace mission. Naturally, immigration officials sent a SWAT team to apprehend them.

    Why, indeed, does the Department of Education need a SWAT team? And if they can send SWAT to arrest Tibetan Monks, why can’t they bust Jose Pendajo of the Sinaloa drug cartel? Oh, that’s right! Jose has a gun! They know this because the BATF smuggled it into Mexico and sold it to him
    There is something dreadfully wrong with law enforcement in America today. Of that there is no real doubt. Pepper-spraying Occupests probably isn’t part of it, though…


  57. coldwarrior
    57 | December 5, 2011 1:37 pm

    @ Runner:

    elections have consequences.


  58. coldwarrior
    58 | December 5, 2011 1:39 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    There is something dreadfully wrong with law enforcement in America today.

    they think (wish) they are the military, they played way to many shooter videogames, and they like big toys to compensate.

    how’s i do?


  59. Eliana
    59 | December 5, 2011 1:39 pm

    A woman I knew at work told me one day that her daughter had called up her parents to ask them to pay off her student loans.

    The daughter was working and her husband was working, but they were having trouble qualifying for a mortgage on the house they wanted because she had huge student loans that had paid for her degree in English.

    She said to her parents that she shouldn’t be stuck with student loans and that she wanted her parents to pay for them. She was looking to move into a far more expensive house than the mortgaged house that her parents owned.

    The woman told me that she and her husband said, “Uh, no.”

    They didn’t entertain the subject again. They had paid for all the things that the student loans didn’t cover while the daughter was a student. They also had other kids who either worked their way through school or who were paying off their student loans without even a hint of wanting help with them.

    It was a bad moment for these parents but not surprising.


  60. NoThreat2U
    60 | December 5, 2011 1:40 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Good for you!!!!


  61. Eliana
    61 | December 5, 2011 1:42 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    i live to fight on! one more semester to go.

    Wonderful!


  62. coldwarrior
    62 | December 5, 2011 1:44 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Good for you!!!!

    we lost a few more students…so the attrition rate for the program is still in the 50-60% range. this course is fat more difficult than anything i had in economics/econometrics/applied statistics.


  63. coldwarrior
    63 | December 5, 2011 1:48 pm

    @ Eliana:

    my student loan payments assure me that i will never own a nice new car, nor will the wife. we buy rebuilt r-titles and drive them into the ground.

    so, my student loan payments are taking money out of the hands of the auto workers, i guess.


  64. NoThreat2U
    64 | December 5, 2011 1:53 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I am not a numbers person so those other three you mentioned probably would kill me.


  65. coldwarrior
    65 | December 5, 2011 1:55 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I am not a numbers person so those other three you mentioned probably would kill me.

    math/algebra/calculus/econometrics/statistics are easy. they have set rules that are always followed

    this doesnt. you actually have to think and apply in this program. very nuanced, it really tests knowledge


  66. Runner
    66 | December 5, 2011 2:12 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Runner:

    elections have consequences.

    The Portland mayoral election was a joke. There were something like 15 or 16 candidates and it was a ranked-choice voting process. Now the Dems in the state legislature are making some grumblings about making our gubernatorial race a ranked-choice system. This after the last election where the Republican won because the Democrat and Independent split the liberal vote.


  67. 67 | December 5, 2011 2:17 pm

    @ Runner:

    I have to admit there are some times where I think that there are some states which do not belong in the US of A. Oregon is one of them.


  68. coldwarrior
    68 | December 5, 2011 2:18 pm

    Runner wrote:

    ranked-choice voting process.

    how very italian of them.


  69. orangecrush
    69 | December 5, 2011 2:26 pm

    @ 54 Runner: If that happened to a landlord though on the same property the city would be telling them that they had consented to be occupied and waived any in house rules restricting the occupiers.


  70. orangecrush
    70 | December 5, 2011 2:29 pm

    Well then it seems like the best solution for OWS would then be public showers and hygiene lessons. Seems like a large opportunity gone to waste.. The smell never hit the White House I guess


  71. 71 | December 5, 2011 2:29 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    You pretty much nail it. I’ve been screaminig about this ever since the Ruby Ridge and Waco massacres, but most people think it could never happen to them. The truth is we are all one bad mistake away from being on the receiving end of a mistaken drug raid.


  72. coldwarrior
    72 | December 5, 2011 2:32 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    as an ex military person, what i see in going on in law enforcement scares me. these shitheads (yes shitheads) arent disciplined enough for the toys and training they are recieving


  73. 73 | December 5, 2011 2:44 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I read somewhere that some congress creature was wanting to do away with posse comitatus and let the military do the law enforcing. Bad, bad, bad Idea. The soldier is not the policeman. Different skillsets. If you really look at the situation, the police should never have fully automatic weapons. They have to account (or should have to account) for every round they fire in any situation. They will never be outnumbered for very long. They will (almost always) have the luxury of hunkering down and calling for reinforcements. The civillian, OTOH, will not always have such luxury. It is the civillian who has to face down an undetermined number of home invaders that kick in his front door in the middle of the night, not the policeman.


  74. orangecrush
    74 | December 5, 2011 2:48 pm

    @ Iron Fist: Navy Seal killed during home invasion by a police drug raid. Even if he was guilty they could have taken him down at his work and raided his home while he was in custody? Bad policing.


  75. orangecrush
    75 | December 5, 2011 2:50 pm

    @ 71 Iron Fist: I rode the school bus with the wife killed in Ruby Ridge. She was the one of the nicest person I had every met. Whole family is a set of nice people. Unnecessary force by managers who want to make their Barney Fife law enforcement bones. No Andy Griffiths among them.


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