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Melanie Phillips keen insight into the Republican primaries

by Speranza ( 66 Comments › )
Filed under Conservatism, Elections 2012, Mitt Romney, The Political Right at January 10th, 2012 - 11:30 am

There is a reason why Saturday’s debate was dominated by an inordinate about of  “culture questions”  by the biased panelists. They know that those sort of red meat issues are  a turn off to the electorate and right on cue the candidates start talking abut constitutional amendments for this and that social issue i.e gay marriage, school prayer, abortion, etc.

by Melanie Phillips

What is the one question the successful Republican candidate for the US Presidency has to answer?

It is whether this person will beat Barack Obama.

What is the one thing that, squinting at the US political scene from a long way away, I have learned from the Iowa caucus?

It is that, unless a large light-bulb goes on somewhere in the Republican cerebellum pretty damn quick, President Obama will win a second term.

The Republicans are split between culture warriors, Cameroon crawlers and crazies. The culture warriors are deemed to be way too scary and will put off the only folk who matter, the floating voters. The crazies are, well, crazy. The received wisdom is that the only candidate who can win against Obama must be a Cameroon Crawler because he inhabits the safe and very unscary centre ground.

Well, in the UK that was the theory behind David Cameron’s march to the left and look where it got him: he failed to win a general election he could not lose against an incumbent Prime Minister who had brought the country to ruin. Why? Because people could see he was a temporiser, a flip-flopper, an opportunist devoid of principle and vision and interested solely in winning for winning’s sake. In other words, you wouldn’t choose to go into the jungle with him.

Would Americans go into the jungle with Romney? I don’t think so. Nor, it would seem, do all those Iowans who voted for Rick Santorum who, as if from nowhere, came within a hair’s breadth of snatching Iowa from under Romney’s nose. ‘Anyone but Romney’ does not exactly correspond to the big mo that a winner needs to propel him into the White House.

Ah, but Iowa is Iowa, say the savants; and Santorum, who is very extreme (i.e. he is unbendingly moral and tells the truth about the world), will terrify voters out of their wits in New Hampshire and other similarly sensible places where the middle ground means – well, you know, going with the flow of cultural change.

Well, maybe. For sure, we are living in one mighty confused society here in the west. But once those negative campaigns against Romney get going, I guess Mitt ain’t gonna look quite such a safe bet. After all, if you are a floater then by definition you don’t have a terribly strong animus against Obama.

[......]

That’s the problem with the centre ground – you tend to get run over if you stand there. But the real issue is that it is not actually the centre ground at all: it’s Mount Unprincipled. Obama v Romney would be Bill Ayers v. a blancmange. And Romney will be as able to mount a savage counter-attack as would a dead sheep (to mix my metaphors by borrowing a particularly pungent one from Britain’s own internecine conservative wars in the Thatcher years, a war from which the Conservative party has never recovered).

To repeat: in this contest, there is no perfect or ideal candidate. These are extraordinary times — it’s a terrifying jungle out there, and we’re being sucked into the very heart of darkness — and extraordinary times require an extraordinary and larger than life character. The question is not whether candidate X presses all the right buttons – it’s whether the one button he does press is so big and crucial that voters need to set aside all his ‘baggage’ because the other guys have no button at all.

Republicans! Are you leaders or lemmings? Is there really no-one in the whole damn country who has what it takes to lead the free world away from disaster – and persuade the American public to follow ?

Read the rest - Into the jungle with…. a blancmange?

 

 

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  1. Bumr50
    1 | January 10, 2012 11:34 am

    Republicans! Are you leaders or lemmings?

    “LEMMINGS!!!” shouts the GOP.


  2. Speranza
    2 | January 10, 2012 11:41 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    Republicans! Are you leaders or lemmings?
    “LEMMINGS!!!” shouts the GOP.

    Shouted in a thunderous way.


  3. Bumr50
    3 | January 10, 2012 11:48 am

    @ Speranza:

    With pride and authority…


  4. Guggi
    4 | January 10, 2012 11:58 am

    Canada blasts foreign “radicals” opposing pipeline

    On the eve of public hearings into a proposed oil pipeline from Alberta’s tar sands to the Pacific Coast, the Canadian government lashed out on Monday at what it said were foreign-funded radical groups opposing the project. Canada’s right-leaning Conservative government, which says the pipeline would help diversify energy exports away from the United States and more towards Asia, says activists are clogging up the regulatory process.


  5. Guggi
    5 | January 10, 2012 12:00 pm

    Neturei Karta in New Hampshire

    Ron Paul shakes hands with Neturei Karta leader Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss in New Hampshire. Badge reads “A Jew, not a Zionist”


  6. Guggi
    6 | January 10, 2012 12:02 pm

    Canada becomes first country to sign the Ottawa Protocol

    Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism Minister Jason Kenney and Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird today signed the Ottawa Protocol on Combating Antisemitism.

    The Protocol is an action plan developed during the second annual conference of the Inter-parliamentary Coalition for Combating Antisemitism (ICCA) which took place in Ottawa in November, 2010. Signing it demonstrates the Government of Canada’s support for it and a commitment to its goals.

    “The Government of Canada is a leader in the fight against anti-Semitism,” said Minister Kenney. “The Ottawa Protocol complements what Canada is already doing to combat hatred and discrimination, including anti-Semitism. We are a member of the Task Force for International Cooperation on Holocaust Education, Remembrance and Research. Here at home, we have launched programs to promote integration and social cohesion of Canadians from all backgrounds.”

    (…)


  7. Guggi
  8. Speranza
    8 | January 10, 2012 12:04 pm

    @ Guggi:
    Yeah the world will follow it.


  9. Guggi
    9 | January 10, 2012 12:07 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    Yeah the world will follow it.

    At least they do something.


  10. 10 | January 10, 2012 12:14 pm

    I am not going to bash this group of candidates as being anything less than worthy of running. I will not vote for Paul, but at least he had the stones to take the risk and to put himself out there for public scrutiny. Running for President is a gamble, financially, emotionally, and professionally, and each of these men and woman took that risk on. That alone makes them all, (not sure about RP,) a damn sight better than Barack Hussein Obama. They may not be perfect, but good luck waiting around for the ghost of Ronald Reagan to run.


  11. Bumr50
    11 | January 10, 2012 12:23 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Criticizing a party is a far cry from criticizing the individuals running for that party’s nomination.


  12. RIX
    12 | January 10, 2012 12:25 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    They may not be perfect, but good luck waiting around for the ghost of Ronald Reagan to run

    .

    And that’s the point, the Gipper is not coming back.
    This group of candidates is like a buffet table missing
    your favorite items.
    But the alternative is a soup sandwich (Obama).


  13. 13 | January 10, 2012 12:36 pm

    @ RIX:

    But the alternative is a soup shit sandwich (Obama).

    FTFY


  14. 14 | January 10, 2012 12:38 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    Agreed, but those distinctions for which you criticize the party should probably be on political or position considerations rather than on the star power of who their candidates are. My point is that these people have shown themselves to be leaders by virtue of the risk that they have taken on.

    We have been listening to this crap since the day after we elected Obama. The GOP does not have any stars to run against the Messiah that Obama was perceived to be. Well, I say baloney. If God forbid, Mitt Romney should be the Republican nominee, you can rest assured that I will be one of his most passionate advocates right up until early November of 2012.


  15. Speranza
    15 | January 10, 2012 12:40 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    I will not vote for Paul, but at least he had the stones to take the risk and to put himself out there for public scrutiny.

    Luap Nor will take any publicity good or bad that he can get.


  16. Bumr50
    16 | January 10, 2012 12:42 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    If Romney’s the nominee, we must djinn up much angst in order to hold his feet to the fire once in office.

    I guess I’m a little lazy in that I don’t want to have to monitor the guy I just voted for, and therefore would prefer to have to do as little of that as possible and concentrate on other important things such as local races.


  17. CynicalConservative
    17 | January 10, 2012 12:46 pm

    I’m not thrilled with any of them, but I’ll vote for the eventual nominee for what it’s worth. Here in the Peoples republic of Oregon with all mail in balloting, I’m sure my votes will be equal to a couple of sheets of toilet paper. Sad too, outside Portland and Eugene, it’s pretty red.

    /lurk


  18. RIX
    18 | January 10, 2012 12:48 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ RIX:
    But the alternative is a soup shit sandwich (Obama).
    FTFY

    More to the actual point.


  19. 19 | January 10, 2012 1:02 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    15 TRILLION UPDINGS!


  20. waldensianspirit
    20 | January 10, 2012 1:17 pm

    Wasserman and Schumer defining the scale will get you agreeing with Melanie Phillips


  21. 21 | January 10, 2012 1:36 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Anybody but Obama, but I don’;t think Romney, for all his perported electibility, can win. Look how he is handling Gingrich’s attack on Bain. That’s not fair! he whines and stamps his little foot. That will get you jack shit when you come up against the Obama Machine, and Romney surely knows that. He will lose gracefully, just like Bob Dole and John McCain.


  22. 22 | January 10, 2012 1:40 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    This piece should allay your fears better than any other story which I could have illustrated.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/10/poll-americans-2-1-fear-obamas-reelection/


  23. 23 | January 10, 2012 1:46 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Yes, but will they get out and vote? That is the question for all the money. If they do, Obama is toast. I think his internal numbers must be abyssmal. That is why Bill Daley bugged out. He doesn’t want to be associated with a catastrophe. But who turns out will be critical in this election. Obama will have the people wh o want to ensure that the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT gets re-elected in his corner. We’ll have people like me. But the squishy middle may say a pox on both their houses and stay home, and if the GOP base does the same, Obama is a two-term President. And the country is fucked.


  24. Formercorpsman
    24 | January 10, 2012 1:46 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Flyovercountry wrote:
    I will not vote for Paul, but at least he had the stones to take the risk and to put himself out there for public scrutiny.
    Luap Nor will take any publicity good or bad that he can get.

    I am going to take another angle on that.

    In my own tinfoil opinion, Paul is a plant. I see too much of him in Westboro, and vice versa. Guilt by association.

    The recent Front Page piece on him, and the panel he comprised of expalins quite a bit.

    My firs instinct when I read Guggi’s post, is the image of Paul meeting with this group lends legitimacy. The one thing Obama has managed to do without any outside help, is diminish the Jewish vote that has been solidly Democrat for decades.

    I think this is an attempt to tarnish the Republican brand. I’m sure the Dems could care less if the Jewish vote does not vote for them. Moreso, the do not want them casting for their opponents, so staying home is the best scenario they could hope for.


  25. Alberta Oil Peon
    25 | January 10, 2012 1:55 pm

    @ Guggi:
    This is starting to gain traction in Canada. If we can successfully (and accurately, may I add) depict the eco-loons as evil foreign agents, we can marginalize them. Canadians are fiercely patriotic, just not quite as conspicuously so as Americans.

    Read this for an idea of just how much $oros dollars goes into anti-energy campaigns.


  26. 26 | January 10, 2012 1:55 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I don’t see those ifs as happening. I don’t see the number of people who want a Black man to win reelection at the expense of economic suicide as being that huge. I don’t see the same number of people who vote by not voting as being the same number also. Unfortunately, those of us who saw this coming with an Obama Presidency were not a great a number as we would have liked. That being said, people are sure aware of what an Obama Presidency means now. Very few surprises left in the bag.

    Many are now saying what we all believe, which is I can’t wait for these people to be gone!


  27. waldensianspirit
    27 | January 10, 2012 1:56 pm

    Drudge is linking Obama outraised Romney at his own firm.


  28. waldensianspirit
    28 | January 10, 2012 2:16 pm

    The reason the country is in economic decline and screaming deficits is the country is too immoral


  29. 29 | January 10, 2012 2:30 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    You’ll never sell that to the masses. They are enjoying their immorality… 8O


  30. Moe Katz
    30 | January 10, 2012 2:37 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    Canadians are fiercely patriotic, just not quite as conspicuously so as Americans.

    Nice.


  31. waldensianspirit
    31 | January 10, 2012 2:41 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Exactly!

    That’s why if it is Romney/Obama I’m turning into an ‘internationalist’ for me and mine


  32. Guggi
    32 | January 10, 2012 2:47 pm

    @ Alberta Oil Peon:

    Thanks for the link.


  33. 33 | January 10, 2012 2:48 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Oh, I’ll vote for Romney out of a sense of Patriotism. I’ll try and get the motherfucker elected, then I’ll try and hold his feet to the fire. He really has no core beliefs or principles. That is how he flip-flops so readily on so many issues. He can be persuaded to do what is in the best interests of the country. I am under no illusion that Obama could ever be so persuaded. And it really is about saving the country, though I believe Romney will only slow, not reverse, our decline.


  34. Bumr50
    34 | January 10, 2012 2:51 pm

    @ Moe Katz:

    Is that a real animal in your avatar?!


  35. 35 | January 10, 2012 2:53 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Exactly!

    That’s why if it is Romney/Obama I’m turning into an ‘internationalist’ for me and mine

    I don’t think you’re “turning into” anything. Rather, I think you’re making the best of a bad choice.


  36. Moe Katz
    36 | January 10, 2012 2:53 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    Yes, it’s a black crested Macaque. It’s the one that was in some wire stories about having gotten hold of a tourist’s camera and snapping a bunch of pictures, including of itself.


  37. Moe Katz
    37 | January 10, 2012 2:58 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    Here’s the story


  38. 38 | January 10, 2012 3:00 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    That being said, people are sure aware of what an Obama Presidency means now. Very few surprises left in the bag.

    I wouldn’t bet my retirement on that if I were you. Most American’s are so brainwashed both into Marxism and the idea that it can’t happen here, that no matter who tells them Obama is going to do this or that, they are stunned when he does.


  39. Bumr50
    39 | January 10, 2012 3:13 pm

    @ Moe Katz:

    It looks like one of my old bar buddies!!


  40. Bumr50
    40 | January 10, 2012 3:14 pm

    @ Moe Katz:

    That’s awesome!!


  41. Moe Katz
    41 | January 10, 2012 3:14 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    She has a pretty smile, doesn’t she?


  42. 42 | January 10, 2012 3:21 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    She has a pretty smile, doesn’t she?

    She was posing for her eHarmoney page… :shock:


  43. 43 | January 10, 2012 3:22 pm

    I’m not working with Little Boy Ass-Odd


  44. 44 | January 10, 2012 3:41 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I’m not working with Little Boy Ass-Odd…

    I’d sue the LASlimes for defamation if I were you… :razz:


  45. citizen_q
    45 | January 10, 2012 3:45 pm

    A man thought to be an Islamic extremist is believed to have shot the windows out of at least two businesses in Alabama City early Sunday to lure police officers to the area and engage them in a shootout.

    Luis Ibarra-Hernandez, 21, from Albertville, was charged today with attempted murder, according to a news release from the Gadsden Police Department.

    “After the man was taken into custody, he reported that he knew he must do something extreme to draw attention to Islam and himself, so he planned to shoot police officers,” Gadsden Police Capt. Regina May said.

    I have been paying attention to islam for quite awhile now. The more I learn about it, the more I recognize it for the evil it is and engenders in those its thrall.


  46. 46 | January 10, 2012 3:45 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    With their circulation, they couldn’t afford my lawyer… 8O


  47. 47 | January 10, 2012 3:47 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    It is the Religion of Peace Slavery and Murder™

    [/TRUTH]


  48. 48 | January 10, 2012 3:47 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    With their circulation, they couldn’t afford my lawyer…

    True… Even the famous fish mongers of Long Beach won’t wrap their ware’s in the Slimes… :twisted:


  49. citizen_q
    49 | January 10, 2012 3:48 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Pot meet kettle

    He questioned the democratic credentials of a body that includes nations still ruled by absolute monarchies.

    “Their situation is like a doctor who smokes and recommends to his patient to quit cigarettes as he puts one in his mouth,” he said.

    Not sure who loses with the muzzies at each others throats, but its a win for civilization.


  50. 50 | January 10, 2012 3:49 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    It is the Religion of Peace Slavery and Murder™
    [/TRUTH]

    Oh come on… It is the Religion of Pieces…. A piece of you here, a piece of you there, a piece of you stuck to the bell in the church steeple…


  51. 51 | January 10, 2012 3:53 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition!


  52. citizen_q
    52 | January 10, 2012 4:00 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    With the muzz from FL the other day, this guy today. Are we getting some kind of muzzie attack or foiled attach once or twice a month?

    Some bright person might start wondering about cause and effect, eventually.


  53. 53 | January 10, 2012 4:04 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    It has been going on at more or less that rate all over the world for 1400 years. People are slow


  54. Lily
    54 | January 10, 2012 4:13 pm

    West must wake up to Islamic threat

    By Cal Thomas

    LISBON, Portugal — When the Republican presidential candidates tire of bashing each other, perhaps they will start addressing the expansion of radical Islam. Only Rick Santorum raised the issue in last Saturday’s debate in New Hampshire.

    Next door in Spain, two new satellite TV stations recently signed on. They won’t be airing “Judge Judy,” but instead are broadcasting Islamic theology and political propaganda.

    It was not coincidental that the launch of Islamic TV in Spain coincided with Christmas. One of the early broadcasts featured a story, from Islam’s perspective, on the Virgin Mary and the birth of Jesus. Not surprisingly, it differs significantly from the biblical account with which even secular Americans are familiar.

    One channel is called Hispan TV and its program content is produced in Iran. That should be warning enough. One of their shows is called “Debate Abierto,” or “Open Debate.”

    The Iranian government sponsors the program, which, according to Soeren Kern, a senior fellow at the Strategic Studies Group in Madrid, “will focus on spreading Shiite Islam” in Spain and Latin America.

    The second channel is Cordoba Television, which Kern writes, “is the brainchild of the radical Saudi cleric Abdul Aziz al-Fawzan, the spiritual mentor for one of the Islamists who carried out the terrorist attacks in New York on September 11, 2001.”

    Kern notes that al-Fawzan has a reputation for hating Christianity and marginalizing women. He also preaches against the United States and believes “slavery is a part of Islam; slavery is part of Jihad and Jihad will remain as long as there is Islam.”

    snip

    One might reasonably conclude that the goal of these TV stations is to establish a presence in post-Christian Spain with political goals that even Spanish secularists won’t like.

    That Iran is also promoting Spanish broadcasts in Latin American countries is another indication of how radical Islam is advancing worldwide, fueled substantially by what the West pays for their oil.

    What is the Obama administration’s response to the advance of radical Islam? It seeks negotiations with the Taliban and apparently as a “confidence-building gesture” is contemplating the release from Guantanamo Bay prison of Mullah Mohammed Fazl in exchange for promises of peace talks and the chance to open a political office in Qatar.

    Fazl, a former commander of the Taliban army, is accused of slaughtering thousands of Shiite Muslims, is said to enjoy a close relationship with al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups and is involved in drug trafficking.

    Read the rest…
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2012/01/west-must-wake-islamic-threat/2077546


  55. mfhorn
    55 | January 10, 2012 4:45 pm

    Michelle Malkin on Bain Capital/Mitt Romney, including a Wall Street Journal analysis of the company track record


  56. Lily
    56 | January 10, 2012 4:45 pm

    Darn I killed the thread. :(


  57. citizen_q
    57 | January 10, 2012 4:56 pm

    @ Lily:
    Naw, you posted an interesting article. For my part, I am busy at work.


  58. Lily
    58 | January 10, 2012 5:01 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Another slow day. Yeah the Islamist’s are getting bold.


  59. m
    59 | January 10, 2012 5:11 pm

    Sorry about the missed post y’all! I was away all day.

    New thread!


  60. Speranza
    60 | January 10, 2012 5:18 pm

    With out Rodan the threads are dead.


  61. Lily
    61 | January 10, 2012 5:23 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I try to put up stuff…I just think everyone is busy.


  62. coldwarrior
    62 | January 10, 2012 5:25 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I try to put up stuff…I just think everyone is busy.

    pediatrics rotation started monday…i’m scarce now most m-f. i am shocked that i am home so early today


  63. waldensianspirit
    63 | January 10, 2012 5:45 pm

    Ok, it is clear Limbaugh is fully supporting Romney.

    In other news sharia got a big boost today and is on the march to a court room near you


  64. Lily
    64 | January 10, 2012 6:50 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I hear you the New Year has everyone back to work and business! :)


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