First off Fox News was never as conservative as the MSM and the popular culture claimed that it was. Fox was a place where conservative voices were heard (unlike the other networks who drudge up one pathetic “conservative” who spends most of his time agreeing with his liberal colleagues), however there has always been plenty of liberal voices heard at Fox as well. Second, Fox’s success was based not only on the fact that the conservative view point were present, but the network was populist in the best sense of the world, which is that the concerns of the average American were not being condescendingly dismissed. I guess after all the venom directed at Fox, Newscorp might be wavering but I sure hope not.
by James Simpson
Cliff Kincaid at America’s Survival has launched a call for Fox News to bring back Glenn Beck.
This announcement comes on the heels of troubling revelations about Beck’s firing and other disturbing trends at Fox. It quickly got front-page coverage at the Huffington Post, presumably to launch a campaign of ridicule and smears before Kincaid’s idea builds momentum. No matter how much they sneer, the left is terrified of Beck.
Beck’s firing was the work of George Soros, Kincaid has revealed. Soros funded Color of Change, the organization founded by Van Jones that launched a boycott against Fox after Beck (really Trevor Loudon) outed Jones as a communist. But Soros is also behind the groups Jewish Funds for Justice and Media Matters, both of which attacked Beck as an anti-Semite for his reporting about Soros’ activities during WWII. Soros admitted in a 1998 CBS 60 Minutes interview that as a teenager in Hungary, he had participated in the confiscation of Jewish properties but felt no guilt about it.
Beck’s demise apparently came some time after an article, published by Jewish Funds for Justice President Simon Greer, criticized Beck for his exposé on Soros. It was followed by a letter signed by hundreds of rabbis that was published in the Wall Street Journal demanding that Fox sanction Beck. Writing in the Jerusalem Post about Beck’s departure, Caroline Glick blamed “the liberal American Jewish establishment,” who, she said:
… rejected [Beck's] ‘outspoken attacks on George Soros,’ the ‘extremist leftist anti-American and anti-Zionist global financier who has given more than $100 million to radical leftist groups.’
Fox now appears to be working with Soros. The network recently hired the radical-left, openly lesbian Sally Kohn, formerly of the Soros-funded Center for Community Change. The Center for Community Change received $5.8 million from Soros’ Open Society Institute between 2004 and 2010. Its former Board Chair is Cecilia Munoz, now President Obama’s White House director for intergovernmental affairs. Munoz is also a former National Council of La Raza vice president and former board member of the illegal immigrant advocacy group CASA de Maryland. She has been pushing housing grants to illegals in her White House position.
Sally Kohn has been a frequent guest on leftwing MSNBC host Ed Shultz’s Ed Show. She is now a regular “Fox News Contributor.” Her worldview is evident in an insufferably smug video where she explains her version of left and “right.” You guessed it: we’re all Nazis. She, on the other hand, is a “moderate.” Sure. Now Fox will actually be paying someone to promote such stuff.
Yet despite Fox’s compromises, or perhaps because of them, Soros is continuing his attacks. Geraldo Rivera recently reported that a former ABC colleague, Lowell Bergman, now a professor at Berkeley, is heading up a Soros-funded operation to dig up dirt on Fox. The radical-left ProPublica, which receives funding from Soros and Soros allies Herb and Marion Sandler and Peter Lewis, has teamed up with the Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism to dig up dirt on News Corp. properties, including Fox, the Wall Street Journal, and the New York Post.
[......]
Since its inception, Fox News has provided a much-needed change from the uniformly extreme-left bias of other cable and network TV news. Fox sticks out like a sore thumb in the overwhelmingly liberal media spectrum. But the modest voice conservatives enjoy on the nation’s only non-radical-left news channel is vulnerable to political pressure. The corporate parent News Corporation is under immense pressure in the United Kingdom over the cell phone-hacking scandal involving its now-closed News of the World tabloid. The founder is aging, the presumptive heir is reportedly liberal, and none of the other cable news channels has moved to compete with FNC for the center-right majority.The already unfavorable media environment for conservatives may look like the good old days all too soon.
Read the rest - Fox News drifting leftward?
and we have drudge in full blown ‘kill newt’ mode this morning.
wonder who is paying him off.
@ coldwarrior:
speaking of Newt
Newt Slams Far Left Heckler at Florida Stop – Quotes Lincoln
“Abraham Lincoln once said that if you’re debating someone who will not agree that 2 + 2 = 4 you will never win the debate because facts make no difference. We just met one of Abraham Lincoln’s debating partners. Noise without knowledge is not a free society. It’s anarchy.”
heh
never bring a knife to a gunfight
The thing to do is simply not patronize the Left-of-Center media. While they may lumber on, sooner or later, if they keep bleeding viewers/readers, economics will catch up with them. It is catching up with the New York Times. I don’t see how MSNBC is still on the air. I guess Bill Gates is willing to bleed money to get his views across.
@ coldwarrior:
jeez
there are at least 10 anti-Newt links on drudge
that’s F’ing crazy
rain of lead wrote:
even if i were voting romney i would still be wondering a giant WTF????
hey
with cnn allowing some crowd reaction at the debate tonight
do ya think Newt can get his mojo back?
cause I’m seeing reports of HUGE swings over to Mitt in the polls
Fox is still a far right network. They employ Sean Hannity, Monica Crowley, Andrea Tantaros,Steve Doocy, Gretchen Carlson, Brian Killmeade, Greg Gutfeld, Eric Bolling, Bill O’Reilly, Greta Van Susteren. The channel is conservative 24/7.
well then there is this
http://biggovernment.com/publius/2012/01/25/cnntime-poll-gingrich-romney-in-dead-heat-in-florida/
It’s all show biz, folks…
theoutsider wrote:
hahahahahhaha
really?
maybe just center-right
@ theoutsider:
When you are a Marxist, anything capitalist appears right-wing.
Mike C. wrote:
it is biz alright, however, if they fail to differentiate themselves from the rest of the media pack they will lose market $hare.
@ Iron Fist:
Are you calling me a Marxist?
I gotta say, the headline grabbed my interest, but then I read the piece. I was never really a Glen Beck fan. While it is possible that Fox dropped Beck for his Soros attacks, which by the way I agree with, it is also possible that they fired Beck because he is bat shit crazy. I have enjoyed a lot of Glenn’s bits over the years, and he has done a really good job of pointing out and mocking hypocrisy, graft, corruption, etc. Then, just when you are looking forward to listening in on the radio or watching on T.V., just as he has sucked you in, blammo! He drags out that chalk board of his and goes on the most insane paranoid rant that inevitably links space aliens, Rockefeller, Joe Stalin, and Roy Rogers into some weird theory about how the demise of the United States was planned by Nostradamus in 1596. I don’t really blame Fox for distancing themselves from Beck. I don’t even own a news network, and I find myself inclined to distance myself from Beck on a few occasions as well.
hey cw
could this be thread worthy
maybe someone who has some time this morning could check it out?
http://www.art2superpac.com/UserFiles/file/ART2SUPERPACANNOUNCEMENTREGARDINGLIVEGAHEARINGBROADCAST.pdf
Article II Political Action Committee (http://art2superpac.com) will be on site with uncut, uncensored, complete, live streamed gavel-to-gavel video coverage of the first ever “Obama” Constitutional Presidential eligibility hearings. “The PAC saw the need to do this last month, because of the often incomplete and biased coverage of this issue by MainStream news media and recently received permission from the court,” said Director Helen Tansey, who will personally manage on-site efforts.
The PAC describes this upcoming event as “The hearing of the century, for the (alleged) political crime of the century,” referring to the breathtaking implications of an illegal “President” in the White House or on the presidential ballot.
These proceedings could lead to the removal of the incumbent from the Georgia ballot, which would raise questions nationwide. This would be the first time that these issues and related evidence are deliberated in open court. Numerous ballot challenges have been filed in dozens of states, contesting “Obama’s” questionable eligibility, based upon natural born citizenship requirements, in Article II of the U.S. Constitution and laws in multiple states. Georgia will be one of the first states heard. This is due to the timing of challenge filings and its unique state administrative court set up to handle such matters, in a jurisdiction potentially receptive to such cases.
Three cases are being heard on one momentous day, in this order: Plaintiffs David Welden (represented by Van Irion); Carl Swensson and Kevin Powell (represented by Mark Hatfield); David Farrar, Leah Lax, Cody Judy, Thomas MaClaren, Laurie Roth (represented by Dr. Orly Taitz).
@ coldwarrior:
Fortunately for Fox News, they’ve already trained the rest of the MSM to have a Pavlovian response to anything they do, so they can coast on that for years.
and in the meantime the mover and shakers
of the world are in Davos Switzerland.
World Economic Forum Annual Meeting 2012
we all need to sacrifice
@ rain of lead:
You can kiss the third suit goodbye – Orly Tatize has the brain power of a walnut. The other two might be more interesting…
@ theoutsider:
I threw out a general comment, but you are a Leftist, and all modern Leftist thought has Marx at its roots. Most Leftists try to deny this, though.
@ Flyovercountry:
When Beck called me a raaaaacist for preferring Newt to Romney he lost me. He burned up all the good will that I had from his time at Fox.
@ Mike C.:
itshould be on but I can’t find the link for video
prolly be a big nothingburger
Mike C. wrote:
true, i guess after they redefined the market, then zero competition rose out of that new marketplace, now they can chill.
@ Flyovercountry:
Glenn Beck was entertaining, even though he was bat shit crazy. Did you really agree with his lies about George Soros?
and in the meantime the movers and shakers of the world
are meeting in Davos Switzerland
World Economic Forum Annual Meeting 2012
whoop
here we go
http://www.birthersummit.org/livehearings
@ mawskrat:
oops sorry for that
@ Iron Fist:
I’m not a leftist, and I don’t give a shit about Marx.
@ theoutsider:
You are so Leftist that you think Fox is Right wing. If Fox is so Conservative, why are they supporting Romney who is the most Leftist Republican. Relax if Romney somehow beats Obama, you will love him. He’s a Progressive and will continue Obama’s policies.
@ rain of lead:
the link just sits and spinzzzzz
@ theoutsider:
You are Far Left. Who are you kidding?
Rodan wrote:
let them speak their piece
@ theoutsider:
What lies about Soros?
So conservatives should start our own network, or patronize one that already exists such as Right Network or GBTV. There’s really no excuse in an age of internet TV (Roku, Sony-GoogleTV, Boxee, …). Broadcast is much cheaper too, in major metropolitan markets you could piggyback an existing ATSC broadcast on a sub-channel.
@ mawskrat:
I am.
I refreashed and noe the stream is back
nothing going on yet
@ Fritz Katz:
How about the Charles Johnson Channel?
getting ready to start
@ coldwarrior:
did you get it yet?
theoutsider wrote:
Yeah, what lies? Please back up your statements with facts or be known as someone who spouts inanities.
still waiting on da judge
@ coldwarrior:
hey CW ya’ll read up thar in Pittsburgh?
America’s Most Literate Cities in 2011:
1. Washington, D.C.
2. Seattle
3. Minneapolis
4. Atlanta
5. Boston
6. Pittsburgh
7. Cincinnati
8. St. Louis
9. San Francisco
10. Denver
Read more: http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/cincinnatians-are-among-the-nations-top-readers#ixzz1kZfxkCfm
@ Fritz Katz:
The market is there, but the barrier to entry is high. Not as high as it used to be, but to have a true right-wing network would require a pile of cash to get it started. The advertisers would come fairly quickly, but you’d need a fairy godmother with the initial money. The right people could get together some venture captalists, I would think. If Fox starts trending Left, I think you’ll see it happen.
@ Rodan:
Fox is generally right wing, but they are overall a Republican network. They want Romney to be the nominee, but they are laying the path for Gingrich, just in case, Via Hannity, Greta.
@ Rodan:
How so?
the Judge just entered
the show is about to start
Rodan wrote:
a claim has been made, allow the claimant to bring evidence and argue their point.
the claim is: Did you really agree with his lies about George Soros?
so: the proof before this can go on is that is what beck stated about soros a lie? this should be rather interesting, cant wait to to see evidence.
god the audio sucks
rain of lead wrote:
yeah, but i have some stuff going on here so there is no way i can pay any attention to it…holla if something fun happens!
@ theoutsider:
You defended Soros and claim Fox is Far Right. They are Rockefeller Republicans. Although most Republicans voters are Conservative, the Republican Party leadership is Center-Left. There is nothing Conservative about the GOP. See Bush’s Presidency which was the most Leftist since LBJ. Bill Clinton was Fiscally and Economically more Conservative than Baby Bush and Papa Bush.
@ Rodan:
The lie that he was complicit in the Holocaust.He didn’t do anything wrong.
so far nothing earth shaking
just laying ground work
establishing Obamas fathers status
theoutsider wrote:
He assisted the Nazis to survive, that’s a fact.
I took Drudge off my bookmarks.
He didn’t even take a break from Newt bashing for SoTU, I don’t think.
@ Rodan:
Sometimes it is better to die a clean death.
son of a bitch
I gotta go to work
this looks to be fun
hope someone can follow this and keep an update
@ Rodan@ Rodan:
Fox@ Rodan:
I agree, Fox is @ Rodan:
Fox supports the Republican party overall. I’ll agree with you there. They try to mainstream it, but they promote loony toons like Jim DeMint and Michele Bachmann continuously.
@ Bumr50:
What’s happening in Florida is disgusting. I heard from my source that the GOP leadership is twisting the arms of Cuban Republican leaders. They are telling them that if they don’t support Romney, the GOP will drop support for the special status Cuban Immigrants get through Wet foot, Dry Foot. They were told, they can get grass roots Conservatives to turn on the Cuban Community. Instead of holding their ground, they folded because they are scared of being demonized and losing Wet Foot/Dry Foot.
@ Rodan:
Bullshit. Read up on it.
@ theoutsider:
So does the Liberal Media. They are perfect strawman for the Left. Notice they never show more appealing Conservative like Jindal, Rubio, Toomey or Ryan.
@ theoutsider:
I did and even Soros admitted he helped the Nazis.
@ Rodan:
The GOP elites can’t Deliver the GOP base. Newt’s popularity should make that clear. Their threat was empty.
@ rain of lead:
Sorry, but I just can’t buy into this ‘Obama’s not a citizen’ line. I have no respect for the man, he’s a horrible ‘leader’ whose actions are destroying America, but I wish this ‘birther’ bit would go away.
Now, I’d love to see a bit more info about Obama’s college years.
coldwarrior wrote:
Newton does a good job of that himself. IMHO.
@ Rodan:
cowards.
@ mfhorn:
Obama was born here, end of story. His real father was Frank Marshall Davis.
CW – Looks like you have an escaped thread “Obama foreign policy perils” about 6 down on the front page, zero comments.
/lurk
theoutsider wrote:
Greta is not a far right conservative and Bill O’Reilly conservative? Gimme a break! They also employ Geraldo, Kirsten Powers, Bob Beckel, Alan Colmes et al.
Napolitano and Stossel are extreme libertarians.
@ Speranza:
Drudge is a lackey of the GOP Establishment. Notice he doesn’t attack Romney. Mitt now is all Mexican and proud in Florida, while in Iowa he was borderline racist. No one is calling him on them.
@ theoutsider:
What lies? Soros was a Nazi Collaborator. He admitted this on several occasions. His dad, renounced Judaism several years prior to the Nazi invasion, and did so due to the mounting antisemitism in Europe. This isn’t even controversial stuff, it is well documented and all verified by the man himself. George has had a host of legal problems from his trading activities in almost every capital market in the world, and has been banned from entering Hong Kong entirely. He is a self proclaimed Communist, and has stated on several occasions that his ultimate goal is to fund what ever organizations are necessary to bring about the destruction of the capitalist system.
All of this comes from George Soros himself by the way. So, anybody stupid enough to just dismiss Beck’s comments on this man as lies would, by definition have to be completely brain dead.
If Beck has said something else about him, that he himself has not said, I have not heard it. Please, if you have another example, fill us all in.
Speranza wrote:
yes, we know you loath newt, we get it. i was only referring to drudge choices of stories, if this were about candidate x i would have said the same thing.
please, step back from your loathing and be objective just for a minute and look at durdge’s page. have ever seen him in full blown continuous attack mode like this over any one else? that is what makes me go hmmmmm….this is unprecedented.
Flyovercountry wrote:
Quite concur! His (Beck’s) shelf life expired a while ago.
@ coldwarrior:
They are. They see how the GOP has whipped people about Mexicans. The Cubans are scared they are next to be demonized. Only one Cuban leader is standing up to the GOP. That’s Rep. Diaz. He said he’s sticking by Newt.
If I were these leaders, I would expose the GOP for this threat.
@ Speranza:
Beck has jumped the shark. He’s in Charles Johnson territory.
theoutsider wrote:
What like the fact that Soros expressed no regret or inner remorse for assisting the Nazis inventory Jewish property in Budapest, or that he nearly brought down the Bank of England? Get your facts in order.
Soros is a James Bond movie type of villain – pure evil.
@ Rodan:
@ Rodan:
Rubio is a superstar. I think everybody in the “liberal” media knows that. I think he’s going to be president in the 2020s. Toomey, Jindal, and Ryan are smart guys, I admire. More like cabinet guys.
@ coldwarrior:
Drudge says nothing about Romney. Romney was denying his Mexican roots in Iowa. Now he’s Mexican and proud in Florida. Drudge is intellectually dishonest.
Rodan wrote:
He was worthwhile for a few years but like a TV show that went on too long, it was time to put him out to pasture.
@ coldwarrior:
Someone should check Drudge’s finances.
I’ve never seen anything like this.
It’s a shame that someone that built up so much credibility would blow it like this.
In my view, Soros’ post senior citizen activities more than qualify him as a bad guy. You could spot Him the first 65 years.
I thought Beck put that out there as a glimpse into the core Soros and the thing that struck Me was He never felt guilt.
Normal people often feel guilt over others suffering.
@ Speranza:
Speranza, you are taking that statement way out of context. Watch the whole thing, and come back to me.
@ Speranza:
He was good, but then started to view himself as some Prophet of God.
@ Bumr50:
The Establishment want Romney at all costs.
coldwarrior wrote:
That is a bit condescending. Gingrich has a public record that I find apalling. He is not the superstar that you think he is nor is he nearly as conservative too. He is very undisciplined with a tendency to say things without thinking and he is an ultimate inside the Beltway guy. I enjoyed his commentary’s on Fox but for me that is all he is good for. As for Drudge – I never read him and I never liked him. He is a muckraker.
Soros: Yes, I Am One Of Lenin’s Useful Idiots…No Difference Between Romney And Obama
@ Speranza:
You keep saying this like we’re all worshipping Newt.
I, at least, am not.
I just think that a Romney presidency will be far more destructive to conservatism.
I’ve taken a look, and made my decision. Your implication is that it’s somehow flawed or faulty.
Uh, Drudge is an aggregator, not a source. Look at the sources…
Rodan wrote:
With iceweasel doing her best Keith Olbermann impersonation. “You siiiir, are a liar!”.
theoutsider wrote:
What he did was morally reprehensible and he is trying to lay the ground work for the deaths of 6 million Israeli Jews.
Addendum – for those whose knowledge of literal context is not great – I am referring to George Soros of today not the Soros of the Holocaust days.
CynicalConservative wrote:
That was my thread. What happened to it?
@ Bumr50:
I just think that a Romney presidency will be far more destructive to conservatism.
If Romney because President, the GOP will lose Congress in 2014 and say hellow to President Cuomo in 2016. The irony is that Andrew Cuomo is more Conservative than Mitt Romney on Fiscal/Economic issues.
In 2016 if its Romney vs. Cuomo, I will vote for Cuomo.
Bumr50 wrote:
Not at all. It is a personal decision for every one to make.
In my opinion – character does count.
@ Mike C.:
BS.
He’s been “aggregating” anti-Newt articles and editorializing via placement, font, selection, and description.
To claim otherwise is ludicrous.
@ Speranza:
i didnt mean it to be condescending at all. seriously, have you ever seen drudge do this to anyone?
again, if this were ‘candidate x’ i would have said exactly the same thing about drudg’e headlines over the recent past.
coldwarrior wrote:
Drudge is sludge. I saw him once on TV and was not impressed.
@ Iron Fist:
Microsoft has no connection to MSNBC TV anymore, although it still has a hand in msnbc.com
Rodan wrote:
I would never vote for a Cuomo.
@ Speranza:
Looks like it’s back in the corral. Guess I should have finished reading it before noting it. Guess I’ll have to wait for the re-release.
/lurk
CynicalConservative wrote:
It will be back later today. I am glad you noticed it. lol
@ Bumr50:
Like I said up top, it’s all show biz.
@ Flyovercountry:
I’m not here to defend George Soros, but I will state it for the last time, the guy was not a Nazi collaborator. The internet is available for facts. Check it out.
@ Speranza:
I would against Romney.
theoutsider wrote:
And you think the internet is more reliable than Soros’ own statements on the subject?
@ theoutsider:
What was appalling about George Soros is that in a 60 Minutes interview with Steve Kroft he never expressed regret or any remorse for what he did. He could have said something like “Look, I was a frightened 14 year old boy who was afraid of being unmasked by the Nazis as a Budapest Jew” but he sounded as if it was merely a business decision. To compound that, he now actively works to delegitimize and ultimately to weaken and destroy Israel.
Maybe Pelosi “knows” that Newt won’t be the POTUS because she knows that the GOP will scuttle him at all costs?
Rodan wrote:
Not a Romney fan at all but he is not the devil you make him out to be.
just throwing it out there…a blast from the past
fox’s 4th largest investor
@ Bumr50:
I would rather have somebody other than Newt.
My choices being, Obama, Romney or Newt, I pick Newt.
I would vote for anybody over Obama, I would vote for Soros over Obama just so the media would have to build a new cult of personality.
@ Speranza:
Watch the whole interview. Not the Glenn Beck edit. You’ll be singing a different tune.
@ Speranza:
I feel the same way, has he ever contributed to any Holocaust museums?
I felt horror just visiting those places 50 years later.
@ Bumr50:
That’s the secret. The GOP Elites don’t want Newt or anyone not part of the club.
@ Speranza:
He was to the Left of Dukakis as Governor of Massachusetts. Andrew Cuomo is a Fiscal Conservative. He is light years ahead of Romney. Mittens will be a disastrous President like Papa and Baby Bush. If the Dems in 2016 nominate someone in the Clinton mold, I will gladly vote for them over that Socialist Romney.
@ Prebanned:
I as well.
What scares the jeepers out of me is that the GOP seems willing to do ANYTHING to retain control of the candidate selection process.
It’s been postulated that people are rallying to Newt simply to “stick it” to the establishment. While that’s not the ONLY reason, it shouldn’t be discounted. I actually think that it serves a purpose.
@ Rodan:
Hell, he tried to run to Ted Kennedy’s left.
@ Bumr50:
It is my reason, I would gladly jump ship again in 2016 for West.
@ Bumr50:
I think after this election, Conservatives need to rethink the allegiance to the GOP. This election has proven, the Republicans are Center-Left Progressives. As a Fiscal and Economic Conservative I have no one representing my views.
Taxation without representation is how I feel.
As much as I hate the Democratic Party, I have way more respect for them than the GOP. They look after the interests of their voters and promote an agenda that their voters want. The GOP treats Conservatives like shit.
@ lobo91:
Exacvtly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He even said he had nothing to do with Reagan. Romney only started calling himself Conservative in 2006, after he decided not to run for re-election. Polls showed Deval Patrick clobbering him. He decided not to run and left with a 33% approval.
If Romney wins, he will be a one termer and bring down the Right with him.
Add this to the list of things that have been scrubbed from the internet.
On Sept. 10, 2010 Ezra Levant wrote an extensive expose on Soros. All of it was factually correct. Soros lawyers threatened massive lawsuits — and all mention of the article has been removed from the newspapers and even Ezra Levant’s own blog.
However, Roger Simon and others did quote extensively from the article before it was pulled:
@ Fritz Katz:
Soros is a sociopath. That is the simplest explanation for no sense of guilt. He did things others wouldn’t do for self-preservation, and ehe feels no sense of guilt because in his mind there is nothing bigger than him. Scary, scary dude. He probably slept like a baby during the Holocaust, even as he was a small part in it.
@ Iron Fist:
He’s a scumbag!
@ Fritz Katz:
well, if it isnt on the innerwebz it never happened, right?
Prebanned wrote:
He is a sociopath of a man.
theoutsider wrote:
I saw the whole interview in real time. Btw not that it matters but are you a LGFer?
Rodan wrote:
Newt is part of the establishment!
lobo91 wrote:
You would have to nominate someone like Stalin or Trotsky to be to Ted Kennedy’s Left.
@ Rodan:
Gingrich taking 1.8 million from Freddie Mac is not going to look good for him.
Speranza wrote:
Are you completely nuts and out of control ? A 14-years old in 1944 lay the ground for the deaths of 6 million Jews ?
In National Review, Elliot Abrams, one of the heroes of the Reagan administration, reminded us that in the 1980s, Gingrich–who now takes credit for pretty much all of the achievements of the Reagan administration–Newt said, on the House floor: “[Reagan] has failed, is failing, and without a dramatic change in strategy will continue to fail…. President Reagan is clearly failing.” Reagan’s administration, Gingrich railed, was “pathetically incompetent,” and “the burden of this failure frankly must be placed first on President Reagan.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/289159/gingrich-and-reagan-elliott-abrams
Guggi wrote:
For the love of God I was referring to the George Soros of today. Is it asking too much of folks to read what I wrote and understand the context? Sheesh! I know you like Soros but c’mon.
@ Speranza:
Two of Romney’s top advisors are former Freddie lobbyists.
theoutsider wrote:
Good god you are a fucking imbecile.
theoutsider wrote:
A George Soro’s loving buttfucking Marxist at that.
Bumr50 wrote:
Romney did not take money form Freddie Mac. Look I am not a Romney fan.
Speranza wrote:
No, he made over 2 million by investing IN Freddie Mac.
@ Speranza:
fro the same arrticle:
so he occasionaly complained about reagan yet voted 100% opf the time woith the president. ok…its deeds trumping words here.
also, i wonder what mr abrahms thought about the ‘tear down this wall’ line. see, i saw the communications going back and forth from berlin and dc when reagan refused to drop that line from his speech. i wish i had kept score, ’cause guess what, just about 100% of reagan’s peeps and 99% of the state department were apoplectic over that line and wanted it gone pronto becasue they thought reagan had gone nuts.
i wonder does mr abrahms mention newt speeches on the floor of the house after hours for weeks on end in defense of reagan.
@ Speranza:
Eliot Abraham has no credibility. He’s a Wilsonian Progressive who help design Bush’s war for Islamic Democracy.
He supports the Arab Spring and is an agent of the House of Saud.
@ coldwarrior:
See my link. Elliot Abrahams supports the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda in Libya. He’s a Saudi agent.
Thanks to people like Abrahams 4,000 Americans are dead and 30,000 wounded so the Wilsonians can have their Muslim Democracy.
@ Bumr50:
Ouch! That one ids going to burn! I expect Gingrich to make the most of that. Good. I am not a huge Gingrich fan, but I am given the choice of Gingrich or Romney. Both will likely lose to Obama, but I think there is a slim hope that Gingrich will win. I don’t see that with Romney. After six years of running, Romney should have won the primaries in a walk. He did not because he is a fatally flawed candidate. A candidate worthy of the name should have seen two years ago that he needed to make in-roads with the Tea PArty people. He chose, instead, to look down his patrician nose at the party’s base. He can’t stand us, and the feeling is mutual.
coldwarrior wrote:
Here’s something else I bet Mr Abrams doesn’t mention.
@ Speranza:
Spare me your allegation I would like Soros, please. Your argumentation is only the other side of the same medal from those who blame “Zionists” (speak rightwing Jews like Netanyahu) for anti-Semitism.
@ Speranza:
@ coldwarrior:
Here;’s what Nancy reagan said about Newt in 95.
Eliot Abrahams is a Bushie and has no credibility.
@ Iron Fist:
I might add that I think people are taking note of who is siding with whom, and I think there will be hard feelings. It’ll be interesting to see what happens to Coulter’s next book, for instance.
@ Guggi:
See my link in 140.
doriangrey wrote:
ooops…rookie mistake mr abrams…see, we have this innerwebz machine to fact check you and yours…
@ Iron Fist:
The GOP will pay the price for their Romney at all costs attitude.
@ doriangrey:
See my link in 140.
@ Guggi:
Ignore my 142, it was for Dorian.
@ coldwarrior:
Yeah, who are you going to believe? This Mr.Abrams (whom I have never heard of) or Nancy Reagan? I hope Newt is running that quote as an ad in Florida.
@ coldwarrior:
Mr Abrahams is a Wilsonian Progressive. Fuck him. He got 4,000 Americans killed with his stupid spread Democracy ideology. Now Christians are being killed in Egypt.
He’s a Muslim Brotherhood supporter.
@ Iron Fist:
Mr Abrahams supports the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
I think Fox is more influenced by saudi oil money and the untapped potential of TV markets than they are by the GoP. There is money in putting Obamas toes to the fire. There is Soros type money in flaming the different sides of the GoP debate.
I liked Beck. He is smart and has some well thought out views of the world. However he is missing a few boundary lines that let him present ideas that maybe he should hold back on. He would lose me if he would get sentimental and maudlin and tear up like Boehner. I would change the channel and mutter, “I don’t need to watch that kind of crap”.
But when he boiled live frogs on TV, that was hilarious.
theoutsider wrote:
A Jew working for the Nazis to confiscate the property of other Jews “isn’t wrong?”
You have interesting standards of morality.
@ Iron Fist:
Well, you certainly won’t see that link on Drudge.
Speranza wrote:
I thought America loved Big Macs—and $1.8 million from Freddie is a really big Mac.
darkwords wrote:
Glenn Beck does French cooking!
Guggi wrote:
That is a pretty incoherent statement. You claimed that I said that 14 year old George Soros was trying to get 6 million Jews killed when I was referring to the old fart Soros of today. You made a mistake – just admit it and move on.
Rodan wrote:
It’s Abrams. He supported Bush (as did I because Bush was superior to Gore and Kerry) so I do not understand your point.
darkwords wrote:
for you to peruse…
@ Speranza:
He’s a Wilsonian Progressive. He supports the Muslim Brotherhood. He’s from the Bush wing, not the Reagan wing of the GOP. Thanks to idiots like him, Coptic Christians are being killed in Egypt and 4,000 Americans are dead in the name of Muslim Democracy.
He has no credibility.
Speranza wrote:
Wrong Bush…
darkwords wrote:
He actually boiled a plastic frog. The reactions the next day from hyperventilating leftist blogs such as LGF was hilarious.
Fritz Katz wrote:
Yup, Glenn boiling the frog wasn’t half as funny as certain cheetos stained bloggers reaction to it was…
@ Rodan:
the fact that he cherry-picked from one speech and ignored the rest was enough for me to put him on my ignore list
Fritz Katz wrote:
that was hilarious. i even went over and read it!
@ coldwarrior:
This man is easily the savviest investor of the Arab world. If he owns stock in Newscorp, it is because he plans on making money from it, and not from affecting any political ends. He has spent all of his time and energy so far in speculation, rather than taking an active management role in any of his companies. In that regard, he is different than Buffett. His moves involve mostly a purchase of convertible securities, taking the interest or dividend payments for a good bit of time, and then exercising his conversion privileges while defraying the costs with the money paid to him by the companies themselves. if the strike price is anywhere at or below current market value, he makes a huge profit with the lowered basis. He has purchased citibank and sold it on three separate occasions.
New Thread.
@ Flyovercountry:
fox wants access to the ME and the only way to get it is through the saudis.
while this cat may be legit, i never trust a muslim in general or a saud in particular.
Bumr50 wrote:
Is “blow” the operative word here?
@ Macker:
SO that is what Obama meant when he said he did some “blow”…
Iron Fist wrote:
Me too.
That said – George Soros having the power to get him fired is despicable. Fox should have let Beck’s viewers and advertisers decide, by way of ratings, decide whether he keeps his job or not.
Any decent president would have made sure that Soros was extradited to France. Given the circumstances, I see nothing wrong with doing this via covert action.
All Bill O’realy had to do was to ask like 10 questions about things that were facts and known all over the internet.
No matter what lie or spin Obama had put out , he would have been done and no way the U.S.A. would have been put through this not over hell.
100% Fox News never was full right, “spin in zone” all about $.
Keep the cash flow up.
@ Speranza:
I agree!