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The True Obama Doctrine, And Its Chilling Result

by Flyovercountry ( 101 Comments › )
Filed under Uncategorized at January 29th, 2012 - 12:00 pm

Political Cartoons by Glenn McCoy

If only the above cartoon were true. An empty suit who might have been content to just sit in the Oval Office and accomplish nothing at all really looks quite appealing as an alternative to our last 3 years together. Instead, our President has been up to some mischief. What is remarkable to me, are the absolute dolts who look at the free market principles which have created the single most successful nation in history in terms of productivity, wealth creation, removing social strata, eliminating hunger, poverty, disease, homelessness, aggression, and what ever other social ills liberals claim to care about, and then claim that this is the very system which created the economic failure of the past decade. Any economist besides Paul Krugman, and the nonsensical fools who claim to be economic experts on MSNBC realize that had we left the markets to their own devices, the recession of 2009 would have been long over by now, and further, it was the government’s failed policies of intervention dating back to the Jimmy Carter Administration which caused the upheaval, and not capitalism itself. The community reinvestment act, coupled with an unregulated Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. All three of these things by the way were not only left untouched by Dodd Frank, but the geniuses who wrote and then passed this sink hole of a law actually sought to strengthen these entities. But hey, why should we stop fiddling while Rome burns anyhow. At least they gave the Dodd Frank law some cool sounding name that would make people believe that it’s purpose was to actually reign in big bank malfeasance, and creating the illusion is what is truly important anyhow.

During the primary kids urinating in a sand box type of campaigning that has been playing out recently though, something has been missed by a lot of us. As bad as the Obama domestic agenda has been, his foreign policy has been worse. President Obama’s foreign agenda has been so bad, it in fact will rival that of Jimmy Carter when all is said and done. Much like we are today, faced with the legacy of Carter’s 4 years of idiocy some 32 years after the fact, so too will we be discussing the effects of Obama’s idiocy 32 years from now.

Dry Bones cartoon: Africa,  Islamism, Christians, jihad, Sharia Law, Nigerian,  Sudan

The reference to Jimmy Carter seems, at least on the surface, to be apropos. Obama’s however, is far more sinister in nature. jimmy Carter’s foreign policy doctrine was based on the lofty premise of, “Human Rights.” The major problem with the Carter Doctrine of course was that there was no objective way to determine, “Human Rights,” much less any objective determination of how those rights would be effectively applied. The result saw nothing but failure in every single instance in which his doctrine was put into practice. Once we adopted his kumbayah school of thought coupled with his bizarre belief that good and evil no longer existed and any belief that they did represented an out of date bigotry, the result was immediately that the most thuggish and oppressive regimes known to man had become the true defenders of, “Human Rights,” while the western style republics became the oppressors. So, the Shah of Iran became an enemy overnight. This long time ally, who had supported us in every post WWII endeavor was put on notice in 1977 that he no longer had a friend in the U.S. While the Shah did treat those who sought to oust him and the republic brutally, there was also a second side to that story. As it turns out, those who opposed him were Islamists, who sought to inflict their horrifying brand of Sharia law upon Iran’s society. If you want to see the effects of Jimmy Carter’s Doctrine, look at video’s and pictures of Iran in 1974, and compare them to today. This foreign policy also gave us the version of North Korea we see today, Hamas, Hezbollah, Venezuela, FARC, Somalia, and let’s not forget the resurgence of the PLO. It was after all, President Jimmy Carter who took Yassir Arafat aside and told him to start wearing Western Style Suits, to smile more, and to seek to join the United Nations. What do all of those countries have in common? They are pretty much the places and things which we cite as our trouble spots today.

Then we have the Obama Doctrine. It stands as a doctrine that is as vacuous as it was eloquently stated by the Teleprompter in Chief. In a nut shell, it stands almost identical to that of his Marxist predecessor with one minor twist in words, but huge impact in consequence. It is a subjective, “Human Rights,” application with the stipulation that an Islamist agenda be used as a starting point towards determining who would be considered pure, rather than the Socialist prism from which to view things. So, the secular regime in Egypt was allowed to fail, while those in Syria will find no such relief from the U.S. The Assad regime you see, while it is brutal, is also a Sharia compliant friend to Tehran. The uprising in Bahrain, hard cheese for them as well, they gave refuge to the exiled members of the Muslim Brotherhood and are good little Islamists. Libya, sorry Qaddafi Duck, you ran a secular shop there, so you have to go. We can easily blame that on suffering, and the same thing for Tunisia. The result of course is that the crazy dangerous animals that had been given Iran some 32 years ago now find that Barack Obama has just handed them the keys to all of North Africa as well. To add insult to injury, they now have the oil revenue to fund their state sponsored terrorism, which is even more pertinent than their huge new shiny base of operation.

When the, “Arab Spring,” began to happen, I actually wrote a piece likening it to Iran of 1978. I was blasted by young libertarians far and wide. What was perplexing to me was this, not a single one of them refuted the past events, nor my interpretation of those events. There was no criticism of the parallels I had drawn between the two events to that date. The only thing which drew criticism of course was the conclusion that the events which were playing out in 2010 would indeed continue to mirror those of 1978 through to the same exact outcome. The argument was this, that because of the internet, and the fact that today’s young students were smarter somehow than their counterparts of yesteryear, the end result would be different, and the young Democrats would bring peace, freedom, and prosperity to their people. In 1978 of course, the young Democrats were among the first to be rounded up and executed. The Mullahs of Iran are far more brutal and oppressive than the Shah ever was. What we have seen in Egypt so far does nothing to suggest that this will play out any differently. In fact, the new group of Mullahs in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia are even worse. Those young Democrats, well many of them have already failed to survive long enough to enjoy their hard won coup. The Muslim Brotherhood recently won on a massive scale the elections in Egypt. Part of how they did this is chilling indeed. They of course realized that the Coptic Christian population there would rather see a more secular form of governance. So, as a preemptive strike, they just decided to start killing the Christians prior to the elections. We saw this as well in Lebanon. Lebanon at one time had a mostly Christian Populace. Tough for an Islamist to win an election there. They began expanding their percentage of the population there, mostly by killing off through acts of terrorism, or forcing conversions to their numbers by threat of terrorism, the Christian population that did exist.

The Muslim Brotherhood represents a grave threat to Israel, this is certainly true. It represents an even greater threat to the existence of the non Muslim population of Northern Africa immediately. I guess that’s the cost of, “Human Rights.” Sorry to those of you in the world who have been victimized by the Obama Presidency. My voice was not convincing enough to prevent this from happening, and hence, your nation is decidedly more dangerous to live in today.

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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101 Responses to “The True Obama Doctrine, And Its Chilling Result”
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  1. The Osprey
    1 | January 29, 2012 12:09 pm

    It’s “The Shah” of Iran. Not the “Shaw” of Iran.


  2. 2 | January 29, 2012 12:24 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    Thanks, I’ve corrected it for your benefit. I must offer this one protestation however. While my spelling is not at all good, and I rely solely on a spell checking program, which failed to find fault in my spelling, I find it somewhat maddening to try to find a correct spelling of a word which is not even existent in our own language. The word Shah, is a transliteration from the language spoken in Iran to English. The alphabets are not even the same, therefore, a correct spelling in English is really a silly endeavor entirely. Just my humble opinion, and nothing more.


  3. 3 | January 29, 2012 12:29 pm

    The primary language of Iran is Farsi.


  4. buzzsawmonkey
    4 | January 29, 2012 12:31 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    The primary language of Iran is Farsi.

    Oddly enough, the primary political language of the US is Farcical.


  5. 5 | January 29, 2012 12:45 pm

    Great post Flyover just 2 things.

    Carter had nothing to do with Chavez or the FARC. The FARC rose in the 60′s and Chavez took power bin the 90′s promising Hope and Change.

    Other than that, this post was spot on!


  6. 6 | January 29, 2012 12:46 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    The primary language of Iran is Farsi.

    True, but the Mullahs do use Arabic, since they view themselves as descended from the ARab invaders.


  7. buzzsawmonkey
    7 | January 29, 2012 1:03 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Rodan, if you’re in Florida, read my post on either the Soros or the Reflections thread, regarding what Romney’s Florida spokesperson is trying to do to Col. Allen West.


  8. eaglesoars
    8 | January 29, 2012 1:04 pm

    Flyover, you left out something very important.

    Egypt has just taken hostages, some American. Why, you ask, would they jeopardize all the aid we give them? Well, one, it’s contigent on peace with Israel, and that’s now a dead letter. Two – you nailed it above . All of N. Africa is theirs – with the oil.


  9. Bumr50
    9 | January 29, 2012 1:12 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Wow!

    That needs traction.


  10. buzzsawmonkey
    10 | January 29, 2012 1:13 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Egypt has just taken hostages, some American.

    One of whom is the son of a Cabinet member, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood.

    Has President Gelding done anything about this?


  11. 11 | January 29, 2012 1:16 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey

    Just did a Headline and you get a Hat Tip. Once again the GOP elites are screwing over Conservatives.


  12. eaglesoars
    12 | January 29, 2012 1:20 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Yes, I know one is LaHood’s son and I think it’s no accident. I’m sure the admin is doing something – very quietly. Did you know Jessica Buchanan had been taken hostage in Somalia? Not until the rescue. The less publicity the better.

    The problem with that is we probaby won’t see the deal Obama will make either.

    But as I noted the other day – I would not be surprised to see an “October surprise” release of these guys – right before the election.


  13. 13 | January 29, 2012 1:35 pm

    I See Tent People!


  14. 14 | January 29, 2012 1:38 pm

    @ Rodan:

    No Carter did not create FARC, but his anti Western philosophy allowed it to flourish. As was the case with Carter’s entire Presidency, he took over with a small problem and made it far worse. sound familiar?


  15. 15 | January 29, 2012 1:42 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    I have no idea why Americans continue to go to these godforsaken places. I’m glad they got out and no good guys were killed, but sheesh! Stay home and do good here.


  16. eaglesoars
    16 | January 29, 2012 1:46 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    I have no idea why Americans continue to go to these godforsaken places. I’m glad they got out and no good guys were killed, but sheesh! Stay home and do good here.

    My understanding is that Jessica was involved in de-mining.

    But I agree with you – it was foolish and caused our bravest to put themselves in harms way.


  17. 17 | January 29, 2012 1:47 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    It’s just not the 1970′s anymore. In these places it’s the 1070′s!


  18. Bumr50
    18 | January 29, 2012 1:49 pm

    Typical.

    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) expressed concern Sunday about the tense tarmac tiff between his state’s governor, Jan Brewer, and President Barack Obama.

    “I’m concerned about whenever there’s a situation that evolves like that. It doesn’t help the president. Doesn’t help our governor,” McCain said on NBC News’s “Meet the Press.”

    Romney’s buddy.

    To McCain’s credit, he later goes on to attack Obama. But that’s not what this is about. He effectively neutered his argument by opening with that statement.


  19. 19 | January 29, 2012 1:49 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    No Carter did not create FARC, but his anti Western philosophy allowed it to flourish. As was the case with Carter’s entire Presidency, he took over with a small problem and made it far worse. sound familiar?

    Carter didn’t help the FARC flourish. The FARC was a bunch of drug dealing Leftists in Colombia who wanted a NARCO-Marxist state. Ironically, it was the Medellin Drug Cartel lead by Pablo Escobar who held them in check. After his demise, they had no one keeping them in check. They seized large parts of teh country. The followers of Pablo Escobar founded the AUC who took the fight to the FARC. The current ruling Party in Colombia co,mes out of the AUC.

    I think you are confusing the FARC and the Sandinista in Nicaragua. My family is Colombian and many of them were AUC, so I know about the conflict. Carter, had nothing to do with it. It was an internal Colombian thing. If anything, Bush I and Clinton enabled the FARC by going after the Medellin and Cali Cartels.


  20. eaglesoars
    20 | January 29, 2012 1:51 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    It’s just not the 1970′s anymore

    Or even the ’60s!

    (Why yes! Yes I AM older than dirt!)


  21. eaglesoars
    21 | January 29, 2012 1:52 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    If anything, Bush I and Clinton enabled the FARC by going after the Medellin and Cali Cartels.

    wow. no good choices in that one………….


  22. 22 | January 29, 2012 1:53 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Hell, I’m going to be the big FIVE O this year.


  23. 23 | January 29, 2012 1:56 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Mike C. wrote:
    The primary language of Iran is Farsi.
    True, but the Mullahs do use Arabic, since they view themselves as descended from the ARab invaders.

    No, not necessarily. They use Arabic because the Qu’ran is in Arabic. And there are a lot of Iranians of Arabic ethnicity anyway, just like there are a lot of Gulf Arabs of Persian descent. That latter situation predates the rise of Islam. It’s not uncommon to meet Iranians who speak Arabic or Gulf Arabs who speak Farsi – a whole lot of trading has been crossing the gulf for eons.


  24. eaglesoars
    24 | January 29, 2012 1:56 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:

    You’ll LOVE it – I did!


  25. 25 | January 29, 2012 1:58 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    I have absolutely no problem with it! I’m excited about life, and being 50 is just COOL!


  26. 26 | January 29, 2012 1:58 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    The Mullahs claim decent from Muhamed’s family/. Hence the term Syyed. That’s why Persian nationalists hate them.


  27. 27 | January 29, 2012 2:02 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Hell, I’m going to be the big FIVE O this year.

    Oh… a youngster eh… :razz: I’ll be turning 51 in two weeks… :oops:


  28. 28 | January 29, 2012 2:03 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    The irony is the ruling Party of Colombia has many members who had ties to the Medellin Cartel in the 80′s.


  29. 29 | January 29, 2012 2:03 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    That’s why Persian nationalists hate them.

    Well, that and the fact that they are serious assholes.


  30. 30 | January 29, 2012 2:04 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    but his anti Western philosophy allowed it to flourish

    OK, actually valid. His actions post Presidency did encourage Latin American Leftists.


  31. 31 | January 29, 2012 2:07 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Which mullahs? Iran has more mullahs than most cities have cockroaches.


  32. 32 | January 29, 2012 2:08 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Which mullahs? Iran has more mullahs than most cities have cockroaches.

    I though Mullahs were cockroaches.


  33. 33 | January 29, 2012 2:13 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    The ones in Qom. They all brag about their Arab roots. That’s why Persian nationalists call the Ayatollah regime and Arab regime.


  34. RIX
    34 | January 29, 2012 2:13 pm

    At mass this morning the priest read a letter from thr Bishop.
    He wanted everyone aware that HHS is mandating that Catholic
    Hospitals & Universities must cover in their health plans,
    contgraception, serilization & some formulary drugs that can
    in effect induce abortions.
    The Bishop said that they will refuse & therefore discontinue
    their health plans & pay the Free Rider Penalties for employees
    to go through the exchanges.
    More people herded into government run ObamaCare.


  35. buzzsawmonkey
    35 | January 29, 2012 2:25 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    My understanding is that Jessica was involved in de-mining.

    What’s the problem with de-mining? Capture a bunch of Somali pirates, and stampede them over the allegedly-mined ground. Two problems solved at once.


  36. buzzsawmonkey
    36 | January 29, 2012 2:26 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    The ones in Qom. They all brag about their Arab roots. That’s why Persian nationalists call the Ayatollah regime and Arab regime.

    “I promise I won’t Qom in your mouth…”


  37. eaglesoars
    37 | January 29, 2012 2:28 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:

    My understanding is that Jessica was involved in de-mining.

    What’s the problem with de-mining? Capture a bunch of Somali pirates, and stampede them over the allegedly-mined ground. Two problems solved at once.

    I’ve heard that Zhukov did that – with deserters


  38. 38 | January 29, 2012 2:40 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    :lol:


  39. RIX
    39 | January 29, 2012 2:51 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    I recall reading that during the Iraq/Iran War, the Iranians
    had children walk through mine fields to clear them for the
    troops.


  40. eaglesoars
    40 | January 29, 2012 2:52 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    I recall reading that during the Iraq/Iran War, the Iranians
    had children walk through mine fields to clear them for the
    troops.

    Yeah, I remember that, too. Altho’ I think by that time, children were just about all they had left.


  41. 41 | January 29, 2012 3:03 pm

    @ RIX:

    That is the goal of ObamaCare. They want to eventually get rid of pricvate insurance, they just couldn’t do it in one fell swoop. If Obama wins re-election (and I think he will if Romney is our nominee), then we are fucked.


  42. buzzsawmonkey
    42 | January 29, 2012 3:16 pm

    Apparently, Cubby isn’t cutting it on his own; Robert Gibbs is back on Obama’s payroll.

    Note in the article that he’s been doing a vaudeville act with Karl Rove, who’s in the Romney camp. You know, that same Romney whose surrogates are trying to re-district Allan West out of Congress.


  43. RIX
    43 | January 29, 2012 3:18 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ RIX:
    That is the goal of ObamaCare. They want to eventually get rid of pricvate insurance, they just couldn’t do it in one fell swoop. If Obama wins re-election (and I think he will if Romney is our nominee), then we are fucked.

    That’s just what I think. They want to prepare the populace
    for single payer.
    While forcing government mandates on Catholic Universites & Medical providers they exempt Catholic grade & high schools.
    The rationale is that they apply to basically the same faith.
    How convenient that this would exempt Mosque schools.


  44. 44 | January 29, 2012 3:19 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    They don’t like the rabble in the Tea Party, not even a little. I don’t think they care if they get our votes, but they can’t win without them. This is evidence of something I have long suspected: the Republican Elite don’t care if they win. They are quite content to be the opposition party, and a token opposition party at the, if they still get the perks and party invites.


  45. The Osprey
    45 | January 29, 2012 3:19 pm

    The RINO Establishment’s fear of Newt.


  46. RIX
    46 | January 29, 2012 3:19 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Yeah, I remember that, too. Altho’ I think by that time, children were just about all they had left.

    That’s what I recall too.


  47. 47 | January 29, 2012 3:21 pm

    @ RIX:

    It is also a direct abrigement of Catholics’ right to freely excercize their religion. Part and parcel of the Left’s attempt to banish the Christian Religion from the public square. If Obama wins re-election, this will only get worse.


  48. Thumper
    48 | January 29, 2012 3:24 pm

    What do I win? I’m 81 and remember being mad because FDR pre-empted Fibber Mcgee and Molly. Mom and pop did not sit there with their eyes gluued to the…radio!


  49. RIX
    50 | January 29, 2012 3:32 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ RIX:
    It is also a direct abrigement of Catholics’ right to freely excercize their religion. Part and parcel of the Left’s attempt to banish the Christian Religion from the public square. If Obama wins re-election, this will only get worse.

    Attacking Christians is in vogue, but Mulsims are coddled
    & given preferential treatment.
    I do not see Obama as an actual Christian. His Church
    is all about black Liberation & Wright is a former
    Black Muslim.
    The whole deal is hinky.


  50. eaglesoars
    51 | January 29, 2012 3:49 pm

    ok, here’s something for you all to enjoy on a cold winter day.

    Ina Garten’s hot chocolate

    Ingredients
    • 2 1/2 cups whole milk
    • 2 cups half-and-half
    • 4 ounces bittersweet chocolate, chopped
    • 4 ounces milk chocolate, chopped
    • 1 tablespoon sugar
    • 1 teaspoon pure vanilla extract
    • 1 teaspoon instant espresso or coffee powder
    • 4 to 5 vanilla beans or cinnamon sticks, for garnish

    Directions
    Heat the milk and half-and-half in a saucepan on medium heat to just below the simmering point. Remove the pan from the heat and add both chocolates. When the chocolates are melted, add the sugar, vanilla extract, and espresso and whisk vigorously. Reheat gently and serve immediately. Use a vanilla bean or cinnamon stick to garnish each serving.

    I add a couple shots of rum

    Which I’m drinking now


  51. 52 | January 29, 2012 3:52 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ RIX:
    That is the goal of ObamaCare. They want to eventually get rid of pricvate insurance, they just couldn’t do it in one fell swoop. If Obama wins re-election (and I think he will if Romney is our nominee), then we are fucked.

    Keep in mind that SCOTUS is scheduled to hear the suits against that this session. IOW, well before the election.

    Film at 11…


  52. Alberta Oil Peon
    53 | January 29, 2012 3:55 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:
    Well, “Shah” has been the conventional English rendering of the word since Christ was a corporal. How could anyone who professes to be interested in politics and world history not know that?

    Spellcheck has its uses, but there is no substitute for a thorough proof-reading.


  53. eaglesoars
    54 | January 29, 2012 3:58 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    Keep in mind that SCOTUS is scheduled to hear the suits against that this session. IOW, well before the election.

    Arguments in March, decision in June.


  54. buzzsawmonkey
    55 | January 29, 2012 4:07 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Arguments in March, decision in June.

    “Lottery in June, corn be heavy soon.”
    —Shirley Jackson, “The Lottery”


  55. eaglesoars
    56 | January 29, 2012 4:09 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I’m thinking if SCOTUS upholds Obamacare in June, Obama loses in November.


  56. buzzsawmonkey
    57 | January 29, 2012 4:10 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    I’m thinking if SCOTUS upholds Obamacare in June, Obama loses in November.

    God willing, he loses either way.


  57. Speranza
    58 | January 29, 2012 4:20 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I’m thinking if SCOTUS upholds Obamacare in June, Obama loses in November.

    It’s not that simple – he is a cult figure amongst the Left.


  58. 59 | January 29, 2012 4:20 pm

    @ Alberta Oil Peon:

    O.K., we’ll try it this way then. Picking the pepper out of fly shit is the idiots way of entering into debate. I have seen it spelled both ways, as I have Al-Queada, Hezbollah, Qaddafi, and any other word which has not only not been actually translated, but only transliterated. It makes no difference to the argument itself.

    Next, I profess nothing. I write because it is fun. I am passionate about my conservative view points, and take none of this seriously enough to believe that I am changing the world. I have noticed almost every other person on the planet making mistakes in both spelling and grammar, and would bet a bunch of cash that you yourself have as well.

    There is no human being on the planet as annoying as someone who picks on minute details for correction, and does so in such a way that they hold themselves out to be some sort of superior being. I certainly hope those swirlies in elementary school weren’t too humiliating.


  59. eaglesoars
    60 | January 29, 2012 4:24 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    It’s not that simple – he is a cult figure amongst the Left.

    Hey Speranza!

    I agree. BUT, I don’t think electorally the left is that large. For sure, the youth vote isn’t coming out for him as they did in 2008. I think the greatest danger for us now is suppressed turnout on the right-center/right.

    But, as time goes on I could change my mind about that.


  60. buzzsawmonkey
    61 | January 29, 2012 4:34 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    For sure, the youth vote isn’t coming out for him as they did in 2008.

    Whether the “youth vote” physically turns out or not in November is unimportant, if the right people merely fill in the right paper ballots, find them at the right time, and are not challenged.


  61. eaglesoars
    62 | January 29, 2012 4:36 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Didn’t I read somewhere that DOJ is working with the re-constituted ACORN?


  62. buzzsawmonkey
    63 | January 29, 2012 4:38 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Didn’t I read somewhere that DOJ is working with the re-constituted ACORN?

    You may have. I think I read something along those lines too. The Meerkat is hell-bent on enforcing anti-fraud legislation ‘gainst de white folks, but is vehemently opposed to such race-neutral provisions as voting with a picture ID.


  63. eaglesoars
    64 | January 29, 2012 4:40 pm

    Oh yeah, now I remember. ‘Voter registration’.

    I need to live long enough to see Holder in jail.


  64. Da_Beerfreak
    65 | January 29, 2012 4:41 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:
    I’m all in favor of lyinching spelling nazis on sight… :twisted:


  65. brookly red
    66 | January 29, 2012 4:44 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Didn’t I read somewhere that DOJ is working with the re-constituted ACORN?

    It’s like any infection. If you don’t follow through & take ALL your meds, it just comes back stronger.


  66. 67 | January 29, 2012 4:46 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    It’s maddening enough, but for a word that does not actually exist anyhow, even more so.


  67. Da_Beerfreak
    68 | January 29, 2012 4:49 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    It’s maddening enough, but for a word that does not actually exist anyhow, even more so.

    Amen Bro. :grin:


  68. yenta-fada
    69 | January 29, 2012 5:05 pm

    THE SHAFIAS ARE GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!! This is the honor killing trial that has been going on in Kingston, Ontario. It didn’t take long for the jury to decide. The father, second wife, and son are GUILTY in politically correct Ontario. Yay yay. This will be heard throughout North America, and hopefully Europe. The public needs to be awakened to what these primitives are capable of.


  69. eaglesoars
    70 | January 29, 2012 5:05 pm

    well, I’ve accepted that there is indeed a Republican establishment that is anti-Teaparty, Newt, etc. But this is unbelievable.

    We’re Screwed… Florida AG Pam Bondi Says Mitt Wants Romneycare In Every State (Video)

    Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi who’s fighting to repeal ObamaCare appeared on Greta, tonight, defending RomneyCare. She says Romney’s health care plan is not the same as ObamaCare and, in fact, Romney’s plan reduces costs. She goes on to say that Romney wants all states to impose similar laws (including mandates) and that she and is all for it.

    She went on to explain that she’s going to be on Romney’s Health Care Advisory Team when he’s president!


  70. eaglesoars
    71 | January 29, 2012 5:06 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I saw they were convicted of killing the daughters but didn’t see anything about the mom.

    ???


  71. yenta-fada
    72 | January 29, 2012 5:08 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    Arguments in March, decision in June.
    “Lottery in June, corn be heavy soon.”
    —Shirley Jackson, “The Lottery”

    A true classic. Civilized compared to Islam.


  72. yenta-fada
    73 | January 29, 2012 5:10 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I saw they were convicted of killing the daughters but didn’t see anything about the mom.
    ???

    There was a barren first wife who lived with them who was murdered along with the daughters. Is that the mom you are talking about. The current wife is guilty guilty guilty. She helped them carry it out.


  73. coldwarrior
    74 | January 29, 2012 5:11 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    THE SHAFIAS ARE GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!! This is the honor killing trial that has been going on in Kingston, Ontario. It didn’t take long for the jury to decide. The father, second wife, and son are GUILTY in politically correct Ontario. Yay yay. This will be heard throughout North America, and hopefully Europe. The public needs to be awakened to what these primitives are capable of.

    you guys have the death penalty up there?


  74. yenta-fada
    75 | January 29, 2012 5:12 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    Didn’t I read somewhere that DOJ is working with the re-constituted ACORN?
    You may have. I think I read something along those lines too. The Meerkat is hell-bent on enforcing anti-fraud legislation ‘gainst de white folks, but is vehemently opposed to such race-neutral provisions as voting with a picture ID.

    Meerkat. Amazing comparison. :-)


  75. yenta-fada
    76 | January 29, 2012 5:12 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    THE SHAFIAS ARE GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!! This is the honor killing trial that has been going on in Kingston, Ontario. It didn’t take long for the jury to decide. The father, second wife, and son are GUILTY in politically correct Ontario. Yay yay. This will be heard throughout North America, and hopefully Europe. The public needs to be awakened to what these primitives are capable of.
    you guys have the death penalty up there?

    Sadly, in this case, no.


  76. yenta-fada
    77 | January 29, 2012 5:13 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Nobody gets the death penalty here, just to be clear.


  77. coldwarrior
    78 | January 29, 2012 5:13 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    there is only a 13% difference in obama and romney on how much they want to spend over all. 13%.


  78. eaglesoars
    79 | January 29, 2012 5:14 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Is that the mom you are talking about.

    Yes. Were they all convicted of her murder also?


  79. coldwarrior
    80 | January 29, 2012 5:15 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Nobody gets the death penalty here, just to be clear.

    too bad. i’d feed them to the polar bears.


  80. yenta-fada
    81 | January 29, 2012 5:16 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    Is that the mom you are talking about.
    Yes. Were they all convicted of her murder also?

    Yes, as far as I know since the verdict was guilty on all counts. Haven’t read the news yet, just heard the announcement. There’s no doubt they were all murdered at the same time.


  81. eaglesoars
    82 | January 29, 2012 5:16 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    there is only a 13% difference in obama and romney on how much they want to spend over all. 13%.

    I’m surprised it’s that much. Hey, thanks for the Saturday lecture on manufacturing. Found time to read it this afternoon.


  82. buzzsawmonkey
    83 | January 29, 2012 5:16 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I’ve been comparing him to the Meerkat from “The Lion King” for some time now. The resemblance is amazing.

    Hakuna Matata!


  83. coldwarrior
    84 | January 29, 2012 5:18 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    there is only a 13% difference in obama and romney on how much they want to spend over all. 13%.

    I’m surprised it’s that much. Hey, thanks for the Saturday lecture on manufacturing. Found time to read it this afternoon.

    i thought that was a very insightful article. glad you enjoyed it


  84. eaglesoars
    85 | January 29, 2012 5:18 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I never understood how they were murdered – only that they were all found in a submerged car. Were they shot?


  85. coldwarrior
    86 | January 29, 2012 5:18 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I’ve been comparing him to the Meerkat from “The Lion King” for some time now. The resemblance is amazing.
    Hakuna Matata!

    RAAAAACIST!

    ;)


  86. buzzsawmonkey
    87 | January 29, 2012 5:20 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Hey, it still makes Holder an African-American…

    Where’s the problem?


  87. yenta-fada
    88 | January 29, 2012 5:20 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    @ yenta-fada:
    Nobody gets the death penalty here, just to be clear.
    too bad. i’d feed them to the polar bears.

    Much too quick, however, it is an GREEN solution to polar bear survival. :-)


  88. coldwarrior
    89 | January 29, 2012 5:22 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Hey, it still makes Holder an African-American…
    Where’s the problem?

    aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

    true, true…you are just celebrating his ethnicity and raising awareness by speaking truth to power by raging against the machine.


  89. coldwarrior
    90 | January 29, 2012 5:23 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Much too quick,

    not the way i’d do it.

    :evil:


  90. yenta-fada
    91 | January 29, 2012 5:24 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I never understood how they were murdered – only that they were all found in a submerged car. Were they shot?

    They are charged in the deaths of four family members: Teenage sisters Zainab, Sahar and Geeti, and Rona Amir Mohammad, their father’s first wife in a clandestinely polygamous Afghan marriage, the woman they called “Mother Rona’’ in private and “Aunt Rona’’ in public.

    The prosecution alleges the females were eliminated in a mass “honour killing’’ to restore the family’s besmirched reputation, a punishment unto death for their wayward behavior, their disobedience and insolence, their rejection of Afghan customs and Muslim imperatives. Zainab and Sahar, 19 and 17, were the primary offenders; Geeti, 13, and Rona allies who couldn’t be permitted to live because they’d tell, they’d call the police, they’d howl for justice.

    And so, says the prosecution, a diabolical scheme was hatched, a family vacation planned during which to commit the murders, and the targets of their homicidal fury transported to their doom, driven to the canal by Tooba in the wee hours of that night, then likely incapacitated some way, perhaps pre-drowned in the canal’s turning pond — the Crown can only speculate here, working off a pathologist’s inconclusive testimony — then placed back in a Nissan Sentra that was pushed off the ledge of the locks by the family’s second car, a Lexus SUV.


  91. yenta-fada
    92 | January 29, 2012 5:27 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    Much too quick,
    not the way i’d do it.

    A lot of things are preferable to having the taxpayers support these monsters in prison. Solitary confinement would keep them from causing greater problems in the prison population. The son is a piece of work. The defense didn’t allow him on the stand, so you can imagine.


  92. brookly red
    93 | January 29, 2012 5:29 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    then likely incapacitated some way, perhaps pre-drowned in the canal’s turning pond —

    I was wondering about that… no sign of resistance, not drugged, that would explain it.


  93. eaglesoars
    94 | January 29, 2012 5:31 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    got it, thanks


  94. Speranza
    95 | January 29, 2012 5:31 pm

    New thread


  95. yenta-fada
    96 | January 29, 2012 5:33 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    got it, thanks

    :-) Most welcome.


  96. 97 | January 29, 2012 5:50 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Mike C. wrote:

    The primary language of Iran is Farsi.

    Oddly enough, the primary political language of the US is Farcical.

    And here I thought it was Bullshit!


  97. huckfunn
    98 | January 29, 2012 5:50 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    I’ve been comparing him to the Meerkat from “The Lion King” for some time now. The resemblance is amazing.

    Hakuna Matata!

    Say what?


  98. 99 | January 29, 2012 5:52 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    I’ve been comparing him to the Meerkat from “The Lion King” for some time now. The resemblance is amazing.

    Hakuna Matata Mutata!

    There, fixed that for ya!


  99. 100 | January 29, 2012 6:27 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    I think the greatest danger for us now is suppressed turnout on the right-center/right.

    Something a Romney nomination practically guarantees. Romney doesn’t really want our votes, but he’ll take them if we insist. It is most angering. I’ll vote for the son of a bitch, but only because the alternative is so much worse. I’d vote for a conservative Democrat like Phil Bredesen before I’d vote for Romney. My vote isn’t a complete lock for the Republican party. Not if they keep putting up losers like Romney.


  100. Alberta Oil Peon
    101 | January 29, 2012 8:12 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:
    Get a grip! I wasn’t even attempting to attack the premise of your post, simply noting that a spelling error in a title or proper name is something you have to be vigilant about.

    This is not a mistake that George W. Busch would have made. ;>)


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