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The Call for Less of an “El Cid” Mentality and More of a 442nd Commitment

by 1389AD ( 42 Comments › )
Filed under Christianity, History, Islam, Japan, Military, Movies, Spain at February 2nd, 2012 - 3:00 pm

By CzechRebel

El Cid movie poster (thumbnail)

Back in 1961, Hollywood put together a film to whitewash the eleventh-century legend about Spanish warrior Rodrigo Díaz de Vivar (1043 – July 10, 1099), better known as El Cid. Charlton Heston played the role of Díaz, who fights against Muslims and later for Muslims and, still later, is fighting in an army composed of both Christian and Muslim forces. Wrapped up in this strange story is a romance with Sophia Loren playing the leading lady, who is also a Christian.

The theme of the story might be “just give war a chance.” The viewer is bombarded with this message that it scarcely matters who or what you are fighting for, as long as you keep on fighting. Of course, it was not until the late fifteenth century when Spain was finally able to rid itself entirely of Moorish Islamic terrorism. So for another four centuries after El Cid, Spaniards continued to suffer and struggle under the yoke of Muslim tyranny.

From the initial invasion in 711 until the final expulsion of the Muslims in 1492 – 781 years! – Spaniards toiled and bled and died under Islamic rule. The Reconquista was a war to reclaim western civilization from the Dark Ages imposed by Islamic conquest. But the film portrayed the false image that Islam and Christianity were roughly equivalent – merely two sides in a long-ago political and military conflict. That tended to numb whatever sensitivity to the danger of Islamic expansionism that the viewer may have had. Perhaps it even contributed to the foolish mindset of the architects of American foreign policy who think that we can fight on behalf of Muslims sometimes and against Muslims at other times, without letting the Muslims do us any real harm. The West has been doing this since the 1970s and has only gotten burnt in the process.

Not all wars have followed that pattern. World War II could all too easily have gone the other way. It took the Allies only four years to emerge victorious, as opposed to the 400 years it took the Spanish from the time of Rodrigo Díaz to the time of a free Spain. One of the big differences between the so called “War on Terror” and World War II is that the America of the 1940′s took the threat of a fifth column very seriously. The FBI kept a close eye on Germans who might be a bit pro-Nazi long before the war even started. However, there was an even greater threat from Japanese immigrants and even some Japanese-Americans. So more stringent measures had to be taken following the attack on Pearl Harbor.

However, many of those Japanese-Americans were much more American then they were Japanese. A number of them went quietly–if not cheerfully–to internment camps, knowing full well that certain of their seemingly mild-mannered neighbors felt duty-bound to support the Emperor of Japan over any loyalty they might have had to America. But peacefully going into internment was not enough for some Japanese-American patriots!

Many young Japanese-American men volunteered for the American military, most notably the 442nd Infantry Regiment, whose motto was “442nd 'Go For Broke' InsigniaGo For Broke.” (Other Japanese-American units earned distinction also.) The 442nd became the most highly decorated unit during World War II, taking on some of the most dangerous assignments in Europe and suffering the highest causality rate. 442nd combatants earned over three Purple Hearts on the average per capita. This was in an era when minorities supposedly, in the words of Rodney Dangerfield, “don’t get no respect.” Yes, to this day we hear from the crybabies with their historical revisionist films on how they suffered more and got less credit for winning the war then the “white men.” Well, these guys who physically looked like our Japanese enemies went out and earned their respect in that very era without waiting a few decades for some Hollywood leftist to use their story in one of those manipulative y’all-don’t-love-me-back films.

Oh dear, we may hear from those crybabies who don’t think we appreciate his grandpa’s war effort, so we better address that now. If Hitler had won and his troops had marched down the Main Streets of those little towns where your grandfolks’ family used to live, do y’all really think those Nazis would have given them any more respect? Unless y’all are part of his “Aryan race” it might not have gone so well. For any women who didn’t think they got enough respect, we ask, would the enemy soldier who raped you after winning the war have “respected you in the morning”? Now, if these Japanese-American fellows–the guys who were out winning medals–hadn’t had much luck, had lost the war, and the troops of Hideki Tōjō had come to “liberate” the camps that held their families, those troops’ relatives would have had an excellent chance of surviving the war. For the grandparents of our modern-day crybabies, winning the war was an absolute must. For Japanese-Americans, the US losing the war could have been bad, but probably not fatal.

Time to Choose Sides

Now, to get into the American military at that time, Japanese-Americans faced some probing questions. Most telling was “Will you swear unqualified allegiance to the United States of America and faithfully defend the United States from any or all attack by foreign or domestic forces, and forswear any form of allegiance or obedience to the Japanese emperor, or any other foreign government, power or organization?” Of course, for some, this meant reneging on such a pledge to the Japanese emperor – a pledge that many Japanese-Americans had made before the war.

In view of that, we are proposing that all Muslim members of the American military, and the armies of any nation or faction that seeks US support in the field, be asked the following question: “Will you swear unqualified allegiance to the United States of America and faithfully defend the United States from any or all attack by foreign or domestic forces, and renounce any form of allegiance or obedience to any teaching of Mohammad, any teaching based on the Koran, and the dictates of any Islamic civil or religious leaders that teach violence against the US, Western civilization, or any other Judaeo-Christian civilization?”

To any Muslim who can take the above pledge and mean it, 1389 Blog will give the title “moderate.” To those who consider us too extreme, we say, “Drop the El Cid mentality; we don’t have 400 more years to wait!”


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42 Responses to “The Call for Less of an “El Cid” Mentality and More of a 442nd Commitment”
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  1. coldwarrior
    1 | February 2, 2012 3:14 pm

    nice post czech rebel

    Service and Decorations
    The 442nd Regimental Combat Team was the most decorated unit, for its size and length of service, in the entire history of the U.S. Military. The 4,000 men who initially came in April 1943 had to be replaced nearly 3.5 times. In total, about 14,000 men served, ultimately earning 9,486 Purple Hearts and an unprecedented eight Presidential Unit Citations.[51] Twenty-one of its members were awarded Medals of Honor.[52] Members of the 442nd received 18,143 awards, including:

    21 Medals of Honor (the first awarded posthumously to Private First Class Sadao Munemori, Company A, 100th Battalion, for action near Seravezza, Italy, on April 5, 1945; the others upgraded from other awards in June 2000). Recipients include:
    Barney F. Hajiro
    Mikio Hasemoto
    Joe Hayashi
    Shizuya Hayashi
    Daniel K. Inouye
    Yeiki Kobashigawa
    Robert T. Kuroda
    Kaoru Moto
    Sadao Munemori
    Kiyoshi K. Muranaga
    Masato Nakae
    Shinyei Nakamine
    William K. Nakamura
    Joe M. Nishimoto
    Allan M. Ohata
    James K. Okubo
    Yukio Okutsu
    Frank H. Ono
    Kazuo Otani
    George T. Sakato
    Ted T. Tanouye

    President Barack Obama and his guests applaud after signing S.1055, a bill to grant the Congressional Gold Medal.

    52 Distinguished Service Crosses (including 19 Distinguished Service Crosses which were upgraded to Medals of Honor in June 2000)
    1 Distinguished Service Medal
    560 Silver Stars (plus 28 Oak Leaf Clusters for a second award)
    22 Legion of Merit Medals
    15 Soldier’s Medals
    4,000 Bronze Stars (plus 1,200 Oak Leaf Clusters for a second award; one Bronze Star was upgraded to a Medal of Honor in June 2000. One Bronze Star was upgraded to a Silver Star in September 2009.)
    9,486 Purple Hearts

    On October 5, 2010, the Congressional Gold Medal was awarded to the 442nd Regimental Combat Team, the 100th Infantry Battalion, and Nisei serving in the Military Intelligence Service.[53]


  2. coldwarrior
    2 | February 2, 2012 3:16 pm

    CAMPAIGNS

    EUROPEAN FRONT

    Landing in Italy (Africa -- Salerno -- Volturno)
    Action at Cassino
    Anzio Campaign (Anzio -- Rome)
    Action at Belvedere
    Rome-Arno Campaign (Luciana -- Livorno -- Arno)
    Southern France Campaign (Antitank Company)
    Action at Bruyeres-Biffontaine
    Rescue of the Lost Battalion
    “Champagne Campaign”
    Central Europe Campaign (522nd Field Artillery Battalion)
    Gothic Line and Po Valley Campaign

    PACIFIC FRONT

    School and Training Camps
    Australia -- Allied Translator and Interpreter Section (ATIS)
    Aleutian Islands (June 3, 1942 -- August 24, 1942)
    Guadalcanal (August 7, 1942 -- February 21, 1943)
    New Guinea (January 24, 1943 -- December 31, 1944)
    Northern Solomons Campaign (February 22, 1943 -- November 21, 1944)
    Battle for Bougainville (October 27, 1943 -- March 1944)
    China -- Burma -- India Theater
    Philippines Campaign (April 1944 -- July 1945)
    Translation of the “Z” Plan
    Saipan (June 15, 1944 -- July 9, 1944)
    Iwo Jima (February 19, 1945 -- March 16, 1945)
    Okinawa (April 1, 1945 -- June 21, 1945)
    Occupation of Japan
    Korean War (1950 -- 1953)
    MIS Conclusion


  3. coldwarrior
    3 | February 2, 2012 3:16 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    @ coldwarrior:

    somehow i dont see arabs/muzz fighting that hard for america.


  4. 4 | February 2, 2012 3:19 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Nope, they want to take over.


  5. 5 | February 2, 2012 3:22 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    @ coldwarrior:
    somehow i dont see arabs/muzz fighting that hard for america.

    But I do see them fighting that hard against America…


  6. coldwarrior
    6 | February 2, 2012 3:24 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    @ coldwarrior:
    somehow i dont see arabs/muzz fighting that hard for america.

    But I do see them fighting that hard against America…

    the harder they fight against us the more we help them form the caliphate…i dont understand that. i guess i am just too dumb to comprehend subtle nuanced foreign policy.

    :(


  7. 7 | February 2, 2012 3:24 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Two words: Major Hassan.


  8. 8 | February 2, 2012 3:25 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    It is called appeasement, and it never works. That explains why the Obama Administration has made it the keystone of their foreign policy… :(


  9. 9 | February 2, 2012 3:28 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Papa Bush, Clinton, Baby Bush and the False Messiah all have been Muzzie lovers.


  10. coldwarrior
    10 | February 2, 2012 3:29 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    It is called appeasement, and it never works. That explains why the Obama Administration has made it the keystone of their foreign policy…

    i am but the lowly graduate of a semi-private university in pittburgh so i cannot even begin to fathom the intricacies and nuance of harvard/yale/kennedy school driven and enlightened foreign policy. i am simply not mentally capable of reaching such vaunted heights of reasoning.

    ;)


  11. 11 | February 2, 2012 3:32 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    It is called appeasement, and it never works. That explains why the Obama Administration has made it the keystone of their foreign policy…

    i am but the lowly graduate of a semi-private university in pittburgh so i cannot even begin to fathom the intricacies and nuance of harvard/yale/kennedy school driven and enlightened foreign policy. i am simply not mentally capable of reaching such vaunted heights of reasoning.

    Ya, I know same here graduated from a lowly private University in California… :shock:


  12. coldwarrior
    12 | February 2, 2012 3:34 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    alas, we have been left in the wake by our betters.
    :lol:


  13. 13 | February 2, 2012 3:34 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I went to public universities, so I didn’t learn to hate America properly, either…


  14. coldwarrior
    14 | February 2, 2012 3:45 pm

    someone make sure rodan sees this

    and then get out of the way of flying objects.


  15. 15 | February 2, 2012 3:46 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    He’s Black so he gets a pass of being racist.


  16. 16 | February 2, 2012 3:51 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    It is nice to see they got to him. It’s hard out there for a pimp gun-runner! :mrgreen:


  17. 17 | February 2, 2012 3:54 pm

    Sorry, I don’t agree with administering a Loyalty Oath to Mohammedans. None should serve in the military; all those who currently do should be “administratively discharged” immediately!


  18. 18 | February 2, 2012 3:56 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    @ Rodan:

    I’m this fucking close to calling Холдер what he REALLY is. I invite my friends here to talk me out of this!


  19. coldwarrior
    19 | February 2, 2012 3:58 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    @ Rodan:
    I’m this fucking close to calling Холдер what he REALLY is. I invite my friends here to talk me out of this!

    we already know what he is, its kinda pointless to come out and say it.


  20. coldwarrior
    20 | February 2, 2012 3:59 pm

    Macker wrote:

    Sorry, I don’t agree with administering a Loyalty Oath to Mohammedans. None should serve in the military; all those who currently do should be “administratively discharged” immediately!

    yeah, i’m not real happy about the enemy serving in the military, we didnt let nazis or commies in, why let muzz in?

    (and no, i do not believe that islam is a religion, it is an expansionist political movement)


  21. 21 | February 2, 2012 4:01 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Violently expansionist. Just ask Maj. Hassan…


  22. 22 | February 2, 2012 4:01 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    How much do you want to bet that the next attack on US military personnel by Mohammedans will be against the LGBT ‘community’?


  23. coldwarrior
    23 | February 2, 2012 4:07 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    How much do you want to bet that the next attack on US military personnel by Mohammedans will be against the LGBT ‘community’?

    i think all they car about is killing the infidel, who they kill among the infidel aint real important


  24. 24 | February 2, 2012 4:07 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    How much do you want to bet that the next attack on US military personnel by Mohammedans will be against the LGBT ‘community’?

    I would love to see the liberal heads implode while trying to spin that one… :twisted:


  25. 25 | February 2, 2012 4:08 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Macker wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    How much do you want to bet that the next attack on US military personnel by Mohammedans will be against the LGBT ‘community’?

    i think all they car about is killing the infidel, who they kill among the infidel aint real important

    No, homosexuals have a special place in their black heart…


  26. coldwarrior
    26 | February 2, 2012 4:10 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    true…true…


  27. 27 | February 2, 2012 4:13 pm

    As anyone told Rodan that Trump endorsed Romney yet?


  28. m
    28 | February 2, 2012 4:27 pm

    @ Macker:

    Thank you for the hover over! LOL!


  29. Bumr50
    29 | February 2, 2012 4:38 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Yes.

    Trump is dead to him.

    ///


  30. Da_Beerfreak
    30 | February 2, 2012 4:43 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    As anyone told Rodan that Trump endorsed Romney yet?

    That cinches it for me. Come this November I’ll cast my vote for Cthulhu. Ain’t going to waste my vote on the lesser of two evils… :twisted:


  31. coldwarrior
    31 | February 2, 2012 4:44 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    That cinches it for me. Come this November I’ll cast my vote for Cthulhu.

    unless he eats you first.


  32. Da_Beerfreak
    32 | February 2, 2012 4:48 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    :mrgreen:


  33. Bumr50
    33 | February 2, 2012 5:09 pm

    Some lesser-known early Petty for your afternoon lull…


  34. 34 | February 2, 2012 5:11 pm

    Mittbama.


  35. Bumr50
    35 | February 2, 2012 5:14 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:

    You see this?


  36. huckfunn
    36 | February 2, 2012 5:17 pm

    Homicide on the golf course:
    A foursome of guys is waiting at the men’s tee while a foursome of women is hitting from the ladies’ tee. The ladies are taking their time.

    When the final lady is ready to hit her ball, she hacks it 10 feet.
    Then she goes over and whiffs it completely.
    Then she hacks it another ten feet and finally hacks it another five feet.
    She looks up at the patiently waiting men and says apologetically,
    “I guess all those fucking lessons I took over the winter didn’t help.”

    One of the men immediately responds,
    “Well, there you have it. You should have taken golf lessons instead!”

    He never even had a chance to duck.
    He was 43 ….


  37. 37 | February 2, 2012 5:21 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    You see this?

    ugh!


  38. 38 | February 2, 2012 5:23 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    She must have used her 9-iron to club him over the Head! 8)


  39. huckfunn
    39 | February 2, 2012 5:32 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    She must have used her 9-iron to club him over the Head!

    No whiffing there.


  40. coldwarrior
    40 | February 2, 2012 5:35 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    a foursome of women is hitting from the ladies’ tee. The ladies are taking their time.

    When the final lady is ready to hit her ball, she hacks it 10 feet.
    Then she goes over and whiffs it completely.
    Then she hacks it another ten feet and finally hacks it another five feet.

    ugghhhh….i’ve been behind that.


  41. huckfunn
    41 | February 2, 2012 5:54 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    I’m not even a golfer but I can imagine being behind some novice knuckleheads is aggravating.


  42. Bumr50
    42 | February 2, 2012 6:06 pm

    WOW!

    What a whiny b*tch!

    Jeffrey Lord, who has intellectual integrity about equivalent to Bill Clinton’s, has become a purveyor of smear jobs utterly divorced from facts, logic, and decency. After an exchange of about a dozen emails back and forth in which he refused to acknowledge simple facts — not opinions, facts — the time has come to show him up for his growing and despicable hackery.

    One of Lord’s obsessions these days seems to be the idea that Jennifer Rubin of the Washington Post, and formerly of this publication, is “in the tank” for Mitt Romney (oh, really? How about this, Jeff?) and that she has written almost nothing in favor of any real conservative. I noted to him that she has written literally several dozen pieces that are absolutely glowing about Rick Santorum, whom Jeff does indeed accept as a real conservative. Despite easy Google access to the evidence, Jeff continued to refuse to acknowledge this fact, and refused to retract the smears against Rubin (which included smears against Elliott Abrams and others).
    ———————————————--
    Here’s a suggestion: Let’s discard the idiotic labels (Establishment Romneyite; RINO; Right-Wing-nutso; Neocon), and instead just focus on the substance of people’s records, proposals, and, yes, demonstrable public character. And let’s stop asserting that everbody who opposes one’s own candidate is therefore automatically excluded from the conservative club.


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