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The Green Fairy Has Two Fewer Cheerleaders Today.

by Flyovercountry ( 117 Comments › )
Filed under Environmentalism, Regulation at February 9th, 2012 - 8:30 am

Hat tip m

While watching the live performance of, “Peter Pan,” being performed as a small child, I clapped like a little idiot when it was announced that the fairy Tinkerbell would cease to exist should we stop believing in her. Clapping it seems is how fairies come to know that they are believed in. My world got a little brighter in the last 24 hours. two of the Green Fairy’s most ardent supporters, not only stopped clapping, but have started to tell others not to clap any longer. The Green Fairy is dying, and her imminent demise is only a matter of time. It is none too soon I might add, as she is a mischievously evil little sprite.

I have two sources for this wonderful turn of fortunes in this seriously not over with debate, in which the science is most certainly not settled. Both sources will lead you to other sources, so dig deep, and read, read read.

Click here for source number one, the church of global warming is facing some tough times ahead.

Click here for source number two, and read about the very real deception involved in selling us this hoax..

Couple these high level defections from Global Warming hysteria’s upper echelon, George Monboit, Fritz Varenholt, and Sebastien Luning, with the Cern Super Collider experiment earlier this year that pretty well proved that our own Sun and the cosmic rays produced by Solar Flairs are actually responsible for our constantly varying temperatures, and what we have left are only the dumbest kids in the audience still clapping for Tinkerbell’s malevolent sibling. All of that of course on top of the fact that none of the claims made of warming’s effects have ever been shown to be true in any way. Historically speaking, during previous periods of warming on a global scale, (yes we have had warming periods long before air conditioning, SUV’s, reliable electricity, incandescent light bulbs, and too many farting cows,) have been met with economic booms, periods of increased living standards, and better public health.

From the second source above.

What has set it all off? One of the fathers of Germany’s modern green movement, Professor Dr. Fritz Vahrenholt, a social democrat and green activist, decided to author a climate science skeptical book together with geologist/paleontologist Dr. Sebastian Lüning. Vahrenholt’s skepticism started when he was asked to review an IPCC report on renewable energy. He found hundreds of errors. When he pointed them out, IPCC officials simply brushed them aside. Stunned, he asked himself, “Is this the way they approached the climate assessment reports?”
Vahrenholt decided to do some digging. His colleague Dr. Lüning also gave him a copy of Andrew Montford’s The Hockey Stick Illusion. He was horrified by the sloppiness and deception he found. Persuaded by Hoffmann & Campe, he and Lüning decided to write the book. Die kalte Sonne cites 800 sources and has over 80 charts and figures. It examines and summarizes the latest science.

As a public service, and for those who are interested in actual science, here is an hour and a half long video debunking the premise that warming science is a settled issue. It meticulously attacks the idea that we have no debate left, and does so in an easy to understand format. It debunks the main premises of the global warming crowd, and at least makes the argument that better practices should be used to make scientific conclusions. After the video, I have just a little more to say about the subject.


Catastrophe Denied: The Science of the Skeptics Position (studio version) from Warren Meyer on Vimeo.

Global Warming hysteria has never been about saving the environment. Environmentalists were used to front a Marxist agenda. They were used for two major reasons. One reason is that they are passionate about their belief in protecting our environment, and for this I actually salute them. The second reason of course is that they are easy to whip up into a lather, even if the facts of what they are advocating are not entirely on their side. For this, they do not deserve to be saluted, but ridiculed. Here is the proof of that second point.

The argument of course went like this, our economic activity and earned living standard has been causing the entire earth to warm dangerously, therefore, we should all sacrifice our very economic freedom and individual property rights in order to prevent copious amounts of Carbon Dioxide from wreaking more havoc on our beleaguered environment. Now that the hoax is being shown to be a hoax, (which inexplicably will still be used as a campaign position by Barack Obama this year,) you can expect the major players behind the hoax to move on to their next hysteria mongering scam. the environmentalists will be left to their own weakened devices now that they are no longer capable of serving a purpose pushing forward the Marxist Agenda. The Marxists of course will not simply go away. They will merely slink off to their next scheme to get us to go along with their hidden agenda. It’ll almost be fun to see what they come up with next, almost.

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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117 Responses to “The Green Fairy Has Two Fewer Cheerleaders Today.”
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  1. mawskrat
    1 | February 9, 2012 8:39 am

    and Maddona’s half time show was a
    STANIC RITUAL

    “The entire act was sending a subliminal message to the world, and that message is the following. ‘Take heart, lovers of pleasure. Our satanic messiah is about to appear with great power to usher in world peace so that everyone (who worships Satan ) can have a good time,’


  2. 2 | February 9, 2012 8:51 am

    The Global Warming Hoax will never go away, though. If we have another Ice Age, the Globam Warmists will claim it is being caused by Global Warming.


  3. 3 | February 9, 2012 8:51 am

    @ mawskrat:

    I haven’t actually watched a half time show since that nonsensical baloney in Super Bowl XIII. Madonna has been widely panned for that performance, which I did not see. From what I can tell, it pretty much sucked. My guess is that the Lord of the underworld could pull off a better show than that, just sayin.


  4. coldwarrior
    4 | February 9, 2012 9:01 am

    The Marxists of course will not simply go away. They will merely slink off to their next scheme to get us to go along with their hidden agenda. It’ll almost be fun to see what they come up with next, almost.

    up next, sustainability (look for a water use angle, even if like here you have more water than you could possibly ever use)


  5. mawskrat
    5 | February 9, 2012 9:04 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    up next, sustainability (look for a water use angle, even if like here you have more water than you could possibly ever use)

    I have had customers come in to Restore
    looking for pre-water saver toilets


  6. Fritz Katz
    6 | February 9, 2012 9:09 am

    mawskrat wrote:

    and Maddona’s half time show was a SATANIC RITUAL …

    “Madonna opened with a Roman Theme but she didnt have a Roman Helmet, instead she had a ritual Lucifer horned crown of gold,” and “Pentagram/Baphomet on her crotch. Also you can see sight of abuse if you look close enough at her crotch.”

    I don’t want to look at Madonna’s crotch. Can I just take your word for it?


  7. buzzsawmonkey
    7 | February 9, 2012 9:17 am

    I don’t know if people here saw it, but over at PJM Zombie has done a superb piece quoting from one of the “global cooling/coming Ice Age” books from the Seventies.

    The dangers being cited as imminent, and the remedies for getting rid of them, were exactly the same for the “global cooling threat” as they have been for the global warming threat. Exactly. The. Same.

    Recommended reading.


  8. eaglesoars
    8 | February 9, 2012 9:17 am

    here’s another nail in their coffin

    The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

    coldwarrior wrote:

    up next, sustainability (look for a water use angle, even if like here you have more water than you could possibly ever use)

    um, actually, we do have some serious water issues


  9. coldwarrior
    9 | February 9, 2012 9:22 am

    drudge has several stories on the lack of ice melt in the himalyas, and the low level of ice melt into the oceans from polar ice caps that would fill lake erie 8 *gasp* 8 times! resulting in a staggeringly destructive annual rise of water level of .06″ a year…6/100th of an inch!!!!

    DOOMMMM!!!!!!!!


  10. coldwarrior
    10 | February 9, 2012 9:23 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    here’s another nail in their coffin
    The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows
    coldwarrior wrote:
    up next, sustainability (look for a water use angle, even if like here you have more water than you could possibly ever use)
    um, actually, we do have some serious water issues

    such as?

    (israel has real water issues)


  11. mawskrat
    11 | February 9, 2012 9:25 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    um, actually, we do have some serious water issues

    no real water problems….may be potable
    water problems

    why people want live in areas with NO WATER
    baffles me


  12. buzzsawmonkey
    12 | February 9, 2012 9:26 am

    mawskrat wrote:

    why people want live in areas with NO WATER
    baffles me

    They really, really liked dessert when they were kids.


  13. 13 | February 9, 2012 9:27 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    That is because their goals have nothing to do with climate. It is all about undoing the Industrial Revolution. Well, undoing it for the likes of thee and me. The Global Elites (of which the Republican Elites are but a subset) will retain all their high-tech lifestyle. They have to be able to jet off to Davos and Tahiti to have their conferences where they decide how the rest of us live. And how we die. Undoing the Industrial Revolution will dramatically decrease the life spans of most of the world’s population, but they see that as a great feature, and not a bug at all. They want to get the human population down to a managable level, and “natural” attrition from disease and age would be a useful tool for that.


  14. buzzsawmonkey
    14 | February 9, 2012 9:30 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    That is because their goals have nothing to do with climate.

    Of course. Zombie, as usual, manages to make the point very cogently and humorously from the text itself.


  15. mawskrat
    15 | February 9, 2012 9:32 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    lol


  16. 16 | February 9, 2012 9:32 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    They want a Global Version of Pol Pot’s Cambodia.


  17. 17 | February 9, 2012 9:36 am

    @ Rodan:

    Yep. They want a “sustainable” population of about a billion people. Where are the other 5 billion of us going to go? One way or another, they want us to go into the grave.


  18. buzzsawmonkey
    18 | February 9, 2012 9:36 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    It is all about undoing the Industrial Revolution.

    It is sobering to realize how very much the elites of the late-18th and 19th centuries hated—really hated—the Industrial Revolution, because it allowed ordinary people to live in a manner closer to that of their “betters”—what my old Political Science professors used to call “the democratization of amenities.”

    It is difficult to fathom the vast difference between the way most ordinary people lived 100 to 150 years ago and the way the “1%” of their day lived, back then. So many things we take for granted today—drinking glasses, overcoats, clean clothing and indoor plumbing, to name a few—are things we enjoy only because of the Industrial Revolution. The people of my grandfather’s generation grew up in dirt-floored thatched-roofed huts in Czarist Russia; here, they prospered and were able to acquire all the benefits that the Industrial Revolution afforded.


  19. eaglesoars
    19 | February 9, 2012 9:38 am

    water issues vary depending on where you look. Saudi Arabia will be halting – if it hasn’t already – wheat production because its aquifers are being depleted.

    Israel has been brilliant re: water. I think they invented drip irrigation.

    India has had a spurt in agricultural production but now is being crimped in some places due to declining wells

    There are constant water fights re: Colorado river.

    The impact is always on food production/price. And therein lies the seeds not of wheat/bread, but revolutions.


  20. buzzsawmonkey
    20 | February 9, 2012 9:39 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Israel has been brilliant re: water. I think they invented drip irrigation.

    They did indeed.

    Sort a process of changing negativity to Negev activity.


  21. coldwarrior
    21 | February 9, 2012 9:40 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    here is how it will go down. they will present and over-hype some water issues and falsify some data. then, there will be talk about not a carbon tax, but a ‘water tax’ that everyone has to pay regardless if you live in a problem area or not. then there will be regulations applied to everyone whether you live in a water problem area or not.

    not only will the price of all goods go up, but more will be taken as a tax as well and more freedom will be taken in regulation. i can see a ban on swimming pools here even though we watch hundreds of millions of gallons of water a day just pass by on the ohio and beaver rivers heading down to mawscrat’s house.


  22. 22 | February 9, 2012 9:41 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Notice they don’t want Space Travel/Colonization? They want us stuck on this rock like feudal slaves.


  23. coldwarrior
    23 | February 9, 2012 9:41 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    water issues vary depending on where you look. Saudi Arabia will be halting – if it hasn’t already – wheat production because its aquifers are being depleted.
    Israel has been brilliant re: water. I think they invented drip irrigation.
    India has had a spurt in agricultural production but now is being crimped in some places due to declining wells
    There are constant water fights re: Colorado river.
    The impact is always on food production/price. And therein lies the seeds not of wheat/bread, but revolutions.

    i am not interested in paying taxes or losing freedoms over those issues.


  24. coldwarrior
    24 | February 9, 2012 9:42 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    Israel has been brilliant re: water. I think they invented drip irrigation.
    They did indeed.
    Sort a process of changing negativity to Negev activity.

    they borrowed the idea from the ancient Mesopotamians, but the patent had run out, so no blood no foul


  25. coldwarrior
    25 | February 9, 2012 9:43 am

    mawskrat wrote:

    no real water problems….may be potable
    water problems

    why people want live in areas with NO WATER
    baffles me

    i’ve never understood why you need a lawn in the middle of the desert? i dont live in AZ so i dont get it.


  26. lobo91
    26 | February 9, 2012 9:45 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    The dangers being cited as imminent, and the remedies for getting rid of them, were exactly the same for the “global cooling threat” as they have been for the global warming threat. Exactly. The. Same.

    As are some of the “scientists” behind the global warming scam.


  27. lobo91
    27 | February 9, 2012 9:49 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    The biggest problem with the Colorado River is that if you add up the total amount of water the various parties are entitled to, it adds up to more than the water that’s available.


  28. eaglesoars
    28 | February 9, 2012 9:49 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Sort a process of changing negativity to Negev activity.

    groooaann

    somebody needs to start collecting buzzisms


  29. coldwarrior
    29 | February 9, 2012 9:49 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    The impact is always on food production/price. And therein lies the seeds not of wheat/bread, but revolutions.

    indeed, and that has been going on forever, and will go on until we get to star trek territory

    we helped along the arab revolutions by dumping dollars on the world markets and thereby inflating basic food items. that was the last straw.


  30. huckfunn
    30 | February 9, 2012 9:54 am

    Desalination will one day solve the world’s water problems. I think our fleet of nuke subs already employs a desalination system. Of course everyone doesn’t have a nuke plant in their garage.


  31. 31 | February 9, 2012 9:55 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    we helped along the arab revolutions by dumping dollars on the world markets and thereby inflating basic food items. that was the last straw.

    Ben Bernanke is the Muslim Brotherhood’s best friend.


  32. buzzsawmonkey
    32 | February 9, 2012 9:56 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    Desalination will one day solve the world’s water problems.

    With the added benefit of thereby lowering the ocean levels…

    ///


  33. coldwarrior
  34. huckfunn
    34 | February 9, 2012 9:58 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    With the added benefit of thereby lowering the ocean levels…

    ///

    O-Bow-Mao’s prophesies coming true? :roll:


  35. eaglesoars
    35 | February 9, 2012 9:58 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    indeed, and that has been going on forever, and will go on until we get to star trek territory

    I’m not sure that NEEDS to be the case. I’m thinking of Norman Borlaug, who did so much to feed the world.

    Of course, that’s the green case against genetic modificcation of food – it supports a larger population – and everyone knows humans are a cancer upon Gaia.


  36. mawskrat
    36 | February 9, 2012 9:59 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    With the added benefit of thereby lowering the ocean levels…

    yes more beach…..mo bettah


  37. Bumr50
    37 | February 9, 2012 9:59 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    They had a good run.

    Don’t wanna end up like season 22 of Law & Order.

    ‘Alcatraz’ has been pretty interesting, IMHO.


  38. lobo91
    38 | February 9, 2012 9:59 am

    @ huckfunn:

    The Saudis get 70% of their water that way.


  39. huckfunn
    39 | February 9, 2012 10:01 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    The Saudis get 70% of their water that way.

    That’s what I thought. I know the process is expensive as hell, but if they can do it why can’t we?


  40. coldwarrior
    40 | February 9, 2012 10:01 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    They had a good run.
    Don’t wanna end up like season 22 of Law & Order.
    ‘Alcatraz’ has been pretty interesting, IMHO.

    that is the only show i actually watched in prime time since the mid 80′s.

    i am rediscovering ‘Frasier’…much laughter.


  41. mawskrat
    41 | February 9, 2012 10:02 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    even though we watch hundreds of millions of gallons of water a day just pass by on the ohio and beaver rivers heading down to mawscrat’s house.

    I’m glad my water comes from the Miami aquifer

    thinking of all that crap coming from Pittsburgh
    turns my stomach//


  42. buzzsawmonkey
    42 | February 9, 2012 10:03 am

    mawskrat wrote:

    yes more beach…..mo bettah

    The more sand, the more silicon, which means more computers and more breast implants.


  43. coldwarrior
    43 | February 9, 2012 10:03 am

    mawskrat wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    even though we watch hundreds of millions of gallons of water a day just pass by on the ohio and beaver rivers heading down to mawscrat’s house.
    I’m glad my water comes from the Miami aquifer
    thinking of all that crap coming from Pittsburgh
    turns my stomach//

    :lol:

    shit rolls down hill.


  44. coldwarrior
    44 | February 9, 2012 10:04 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    mawskrat wrote:
    yes more beach…..mo bettah
    The more sand, the more silicon, which means more computers and more breast implants.

    computers with big boobs!

    awesome!


  45. buzzsawmonkey
    45 | February 9, 2012 10:06 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    computers with big boobs!

    awesome!

    Better than the big boobs with computers we’ve got running the government now.


  46. huckfunn
    46 | February 9, 2012 10:07 am

    mawskrat wrote:

    thinking of all that crap coming from Pittsburgh
    turns my stomach//

    In the “The Man Who Would be King” Danny (Sean Connery) asks a tribesman why they are attacking their neighbors. The answer… “They are pissing downstream while we are bathing.” :grin:


  47. 47 | February 9, 2012 10:09 am

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ mawskrat:
    I haven’t actually watched a half time show since that nonsensical baloney in Super Bowl XIII. Madonna has been widely panned for that performance, which I did not see. From what I can tell, it pretty much sucked. My guess is that the Lord of the underworld could pull off a better show than that, just sayin.

    I watch the Super Bowl for the football. The ads are propaganda, and so are the half-time shows, and they aren’t propaganda for anything I could find acceptable.


  48. 48 | February 9, 2012 10:11 am

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ mawskrat:
    I haven’t actually watched a half time show since that nonsensical baloney in Super Bowl XIII. Madonna has been widely panned for that performance, which I did not see. From what I can tell, it pretty much sucked. My guess is that the Lord of the underworld could pull off a better show than that, just sayin.

    They should have Charles Johnson play guitars next year with Hugo Chavez singing.


  49. huckfunn
    49 | February 9, 2012 10:19 am

    The Global Warming Hoax is becoming more unraveled on a daily basis.

    New paper finds 20th century warming within range of natural variability


  50. lobo91
    50 | February 9, 2012 10:24 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    The Global Warming Hoax is becoming more unraveled on a daily basis.

    New paper finds 20th century warming within range of natural variability

    “Shun the unbeliever! Shuuun! Shuuun!”


  51. huckfunn
    51 | February 9, 2012 10:33 am

    @ lobo91:
    On my “to do” list is to write a letter to my congress critters asking them when will the purveyors of the costliest scam in the world be held to account as well as their enablers in Congress and the EPA.


  52. eaglesoars
    52 | February 9, 2012 10:34 am

    Here’s the English translation of the interview with Varenholt.

    I feel duped


  53. 53 | February 9, 2012 10:34 am

    Wow. This is no surprise, but look what Obama has to say about religious freedom:

    “That is why there is a mosque in every state in our union and over 1,200 mosques within our borders. That’s why the United States government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab and to punish those who would deny it.”

    But not a right of Catholics not to have to pay for abortions. Think about that.


  54. 54 | February 9, 2012 10:36 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Islam is our defacto official religion. Very sickening. Osama may be dead, but he won.

    Terrorism works.


  55. lobo91
    55 | February 9, 2012 10:38 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    On my “to do” list is to write a letter to my congress critters asking them when will the purveyors of the costliest scam in the world be held to account as well as their enablers in Congress and the EPA.

    They’ll get to that right after they prosecute those behind Fast and Furious.

    And do something about members of Congress making millions off of stock trades.

    Okay…probably never…


  56. lobo91
    56 | February 9, 2012 10:40 am

    I made the mistake of showing some people at work the Charlie the Unicorn video the other day.

    Now every time management comes up with some stupid idea, someone says “We’re going to Candy Mountain, Charlie!”


  57. eaglesoars
    57 | February 9, 2012 10:42 am

    And another one bites the dust.

    Martin Hovland tells The American Geophysical Union to go piss up a rope

    Although I have been a long-time member of the American Geophysical Union (AGU), I hereby refuse to pay my membership fees. The main problem is the organization’s Position Statement on the purported “Human impacts on Climate”


  58. eaglesoars
    58 | February 9, 2012 10:44 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Charlie the Unicorn video

    linky pleeze?


  59. coldwarrior
    59 | February 9, 2012 10:46 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Charlie the Unicorn video
    linky pleeze?

    now you asked for it!

    :lol:


  60. mawskrat
    60 | February 9, 2012 10:46 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    “Human impacts on Climate”

    yep I like having a impact on the climate
    in my house.. warm in the winter and cool in
    the summer


  61. lobo91
    61 | February 9, 2012 10:47 am

    @ eaglesoars:


  62. mawskrat
    62 | February 9, 2012 10:48 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    yes I missed the vid


  63. lobo91
    63 | February 9, 2012 10:49 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    “It’s a magical bridge of hope and wonder!”


  64. coldwarrior
    64 | February 9, 2012 10:50 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    “It’s a magical bridge of hope and wonder!”

    now i have to stop studying and watch…thanks.


  65. lobo91
    65 | February 9, 2012 10:53 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Happy to help!


  66. coldwarrior
    66 | February 9, 2012 10:54 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Happy to help!

    at least there was some medical content at the end


  67. huckfunn
    67 | February 9, 2012 10:55 am

    @ lobo91:
    Here’s short vid regarding the evils of cow farts:


  68. eaglesoars
    68 | February 9, 2012 10:59 am

    @ lobo91:

    some peop;e have way too much time on their hands.

    Apparently I’m one of them.

    sheesh


  69. buzzsawmonkey
    69 | February 9, 2012 10:59 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    the evils of cow farts

    Death to the evil Kuffars cow farts!


  70. CynicalConservative
    70 | February 9, 2012 11:02 am

    We should start an over/under for when the first ocupodder incident occurs at CPAC.

    /lurk


  71. lobo91
    71 | February 9, 2012 11:03 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    I see it as a metaphor for Obama’s presidency.


  72. huckfunn
    72 | February 9, 2012 11:08 am

    I need to get back to work despoiling the planet so that all of you deniers can spew more deadly vapors with your death devices.

    later…


  73. eaglesoars
    73 | February 9, 2012 11:17 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    I see it as a metaphor for Obama’s presidency.

    As see it as a metaphor for Molly the Beagle trying to wake me up in the morning to give her her morning chicken ration.

    Especially the part where she finally just jumps up and down on me.


  74. Bob in Breckenridge
    74 | February 9, 2012 11:26 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    Desalination will one day solve the world’s water problems. I think our fleet of nuke subs already employs a desalination system. Of course everyone doesn’t have a nuke plant in their garage.

    Actually, all Navy ships, from destroyers to carriers, use desalination plants onboard to provide fresh water..


  75. 75 | February 9, 2012 11:26 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    Israel has been brilliant re: water. I think they invented drip irrigation.
    They did indeed.
    Sort a process of changing negativity to Negev activity.

    No, sorry they did not, drip irrigation was invented right here in America by a company I used to work for (In El Cajon California), Hardy Irrigation, later bought out by The Toro corporation.


  76. coldwarrior
    76 | February 9, 2012 11:30 am

    @ doriangrey:

    hows mum feeling? she might be pretty sore and have a good bit of swelling, that is normal.


  77. 77 | February 9, 2012 11:31 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    Desalination will one day solve the world’s water problems. I think our fleet of nuke subs already employs a desalination system. Of course everyone doesn’t have a nuke plant in their garage.

    Nuclear submarines do not use desalination, they actually split the water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen (it’s where they get their oxygen supply) and then recombine them into pure h2o. It’s what allows nuclear sub’s to remain submerged for so long. The water is actually a by-product of their oxygen generation system.


  78. 78 | February 9, 2012 11:32 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    hows mum feeling? she might be pretty sore and have a good bit of swelling, that is normal.

    I haven’t talked to her yet this morning, was just about to call her.


  79. 79 | February 9, 2012 11:33 am

    According to Petr Beckmann who’d experienced them all they were one in the same:

    First there was the Red Lie, then came the Brown Lie and now the Green Lie.


  80. eaglesoars
    80 | February 9, 2012 11:35 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    No, sorry they did not, drip irrigation was invented right here in America by a company I used to work for (In El Cajon California), Hardy Irrigation, later bought out by The Toro corporation.

    Thanks!

    Did you get some rest last nite?


  81. buzzsawmonkey
    81 | February 9, 2012 11:38 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    No, sorry they did not, drip irrigation was invented right here in America by a company I used to work for (In El Cajon California), Hardy Irrigation, later bought out by The Toro corporation.

    According to Wiki, we’re both wrong.


  82. 82 | February 9, 2012 11:42 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    No, sorry they did not, drip irrigation was invented right here in America by a company I used to work for (In El Cajon California), Hardy Irrigation, later bought out by The Toro corporation.
    Thanks!
    Did you get some rest last nite?

    Yes, thank you. I can’t believe how much just sitting around waiting exhausted me… :shock:


  83. 83 | February 9, 2012 11:43 am

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    Where does the waste go? In the ocean?

    :-)


  84. 84 | February 9, 2012 11:44 am

    @ Crusader Rabbit:

    All totalitarian movements are based on a lie.


  85. 85 | February 9, 2012 11:46 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    No, sorry they did not, drip irrigation was invented right here in America by a company I used to work for (In El Cajon California), Hardy Irrigation, later bought out by The Toro corporation.
    According to Wiki, we’re both wrong.

    :oops:


  86. eaglesoars
    86 | February 9, 2012 11:49 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    I can’t believe how much just sitting around waiting exhausted me…

    Been there, sweetie.

    Listen, I don’t know what the home situation for your mom is like, but in case it comes in handy, here’s a tip that worked wonders for me.

    Baby monitor. Leave the trasmitter w/mom and the receiver w/the caregiver. You can walk all over the house, sometimes outside, and when you take the receiver into your bedroom at nite, go to sleep peacefully, knowing if she needs you, you’ll hear her.


  87. 87 | February 9, 2012 11:49 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    Where does the waste go? In the ocean?

    Technically speaking, high saline brine wouldn’t be a waste product, but rather a concentrated nutrient… :razz:


  88. eaglesoars
    88 | February 9, 2012 11:50 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    :lol:


  89. 89 | February 9, 2012 11:50 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    I can’t believe how much just sitting around waiting exhausted me…
    Been there, sweetie.
    Listen, I don’t know what the home situation for your mom is like, but in case it comes in handy, here’s a tip that worked wonders for me.
    Baby monitor. Leave the trasmitter w/mom and the receiver w/the caregiver. You can walk all over the house, sometimes outside, and when you take the receiver into your bedroom at nite, go to sleep peacefully, knowing if she needs you, you’ll hear her.

    ROTFLMAO… We have a small apartment, I can hear her snore even with my door closed… :grin:


  90. 90 | February 9, 2012 11:52 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    They had a good run.
    Don’t wanna end up like season 22 of Law & Order.
    ‘Alcatraz’ has been pretty interesting, IMHO.

    And now with the introduction of the double locked mysterious chamber! I’m seeing a parallel to “the Hatch” on “Lost.”


  91. eaglesoars
    91 | February 9, 2012 11:56 am

    @ doriangrey:

    HA!

    I had to hang bells on all the exit doors so I could hear it when she’d try to go for a walk at 4:30 in the morning. And remove the knobs from the stove at nite in case she decided to wanted to cook something (She set the kitchen on fire so many times the fire dept guys gave my neice a stuffed dalmation toy.

    And put a lock on the liquor cabinet.

    She had dementia.

    We came up with all sorts of strategies. What fun!


  92. eaglesoars
    92 | February 9, 2012 11:56 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    I’m seeing a parallel to “the Hatch” on “Lost.”

    I think the Lost writers are also doing Alcatraz


  93. 93 | February 9, 2012 11:58 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    Better them than the Battlestar Galactica people… :roll:


  94. 94 | February 9, 2012 11:59 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Better them than the Battlestar Galactica people…

    <—- kicks IF for Macker… :razz:


  95. eaglesoars
    95 | February 9, 2012 12:02 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Better them than the Battlestar Galactica people…

    didn’t we watch that at you-know-who’s party?


  96. coldwarrior
    96 | February 9, 2012 12:02 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Crusader Rabbit:
    All totalitarian movements are based on a lie.

    i glanced up from my pediatric cardiovascular notes and misread the above as:

    “All totalitarian movements are based on ale”

    *goes back to studying….*


  97. 97 | February 9, 2012 12:03 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Yep. Same group. I think some of them are also contributing to “Person of Interest.” Which I like as well.


  98. 98 | February 9, 2012 12:03 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    “All totalitarian movements are based on ale”

    No, that would be the United States that was based on Ale… :lol: :lol: :lol:


  99. Fritz Katz
    99 | February 9, 2012 12:03 pm

    Crusader Rabbit wrote:

    First there was the Red Lie, then came the Brown Lie and now the Green Lie.

    So what’s the Red and Brown Lie.


  100. 100 | February 9, 2012 12:07 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Yeah, and it was good, but they ruined the series after the second half of the second season. They tried to humanize the Cylons and Cylonize the humans. The moral equivilence was sickening. Even moreso because they had drawn such clear parallels with the War from the beginning of the series.


  101. eaglesoars
    101 | February 9, 2012 12:10 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Yep. Same group. I think some of them are also contributing to “Person of Interest.” Which I like as well.

    I’ve been trying to catch taht and “justify” – so far w/o success..

    gotta go – running late


  102. Buffalobob
    102 | February 9, 2012 12:18 pm

    @ coldwarrior: I lived in AZ since 1978. In Tucson for 20+ years. The last 15 years in the White mountains The vast majority of homes in the Tucson area have desert landscaping, no grass, Phoenix on the other hand has mostly grass landscaping. The water usage per household in Tucson verses Phoenix is substantially lower. This did not prevent the politicians from issuing an edict that everyone would reduce their water usage by a certain percent or be penalized. The people in the Phoenix had no problem in reaching the mandated reduction due to their excessive water usage. In Tucson it was a struggle. I won’t even go in to the water usage on the numerous golf courses in both Phoenix and Tucson. When algore and the Hollywood nitwits all move into 2500 sq ft. homes I’ll take them seriously.


  103. texasam7
    103 | February 9, 2012 12:22 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Of course not, even though there’s water available in the ice caps on Mars, and minérale that could be mined from the Asteroid Belt.


  104. coldwarrior
    104 | February 9, 2012 12:22 pm

    @ Buffalobob:

    i have a friend who was born and raised in prescott, so i get what you are saying. he complained about phoenix 20 years ago.


  105. lobo91
    105 | February 9, 2012 12:43 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Yep. Same group. I think some of them are also contributing to “Person of Interest.” Which I like as well.

    I’ve been trying to catch taht and “justify” – so far w/o success..

    gotta go – running late

    Justified is my new favorite show.


  106. lobo91
    106 | February 9, 2012 12:50 pm

    Speaking of good shows, The Walking Dead returns Sunday for the final 6 episodes of the season.


  107. 107 | February 9, 2012 1:13 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I thought they would have taken that Unicorn’s nuts!


  108. 108 | February 9, 2012 1:16 pm

    @ Macker:

    Check your e-mail… :grin:


  109. 109 | February 9, 2012 1:18 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Thank you, Dorian! Snicker! 8)


  110. 110 | February 9, 2012 1:19 pm

    Fritz Katz wrote:

    Crusader Rabbit wrote:
    First there was the Red Lie, then came the Brown Lie and now the Green Lie.
    So what’s the Red and Brown Lie.

    In Beckmann’s view the “Red Lie” was Soviet Communism and the “Brown Lie” was Italian and German fascism.


  111. 111 | February 9, 2012 1:25 pm

    @ Crusader Rabbit:

    Yo CR! Haven’t seen you on in a while!


  112. Alberta Oil Peon
    112 | February 9, 2012 1:56 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Water issues are local or regional, not planet-wide.


  113. Alberta Oil Peon
    113 | February 9, 2012 2:01 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    I think people initially planted lawns in the Arizona desert because they came there from some place where lawns were the norm, and they just continued by force of habit. Many newer homes/communities now landscape with the native desert flora. It’s very attractive.


  114. Alberta Oil Peon
    114 | February 9, 2012 2:02 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    Shee-it! I knew something was missing when I checked the shop the other day.


  115. Alberta Oil Peon
    115 | February 9, 2012 2:31 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Everybody knows all totalitarian movements are based upon a Fleet enema.


  116. buzzsawmonkey
    116 | February 9, 2012 2:54 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    Everybody knows all totalitarian movements are based upon a Fleet enema.

    Hence the term, “Follow the Fleet!”


  117. eaglesoars
    117 | February 9, 2012 3:26 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Water issues are local or regional, not planet-wide.

    Um, that’s what I said

    water issues vary depending on where you look


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