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The liberals exploitation of race

by Speranza ( 146 Comments › )
Filed under Democratic Party at February 15th, 2012 - 3:00 pm

The Knish gives us a good history of the historic racism of the Democratic Party. Up until the 1950′s the Democrats pandered to white racists and  segregationists (Lester Maddox, George Wallace, Orval Faubus, Robert Byrd). However,  starting in the late 1960′s, seeing the potential to win over a huge bloc of voters (90-98% in every national election) the Democrats (doing a  Charles Johnson circa January 2009)  decided to ditch their old allies and  to enable several unsavory black racists (Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton) and to favor black preferences over working class whites.  Also recall the special vitriol directed against Blacks such as Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell and yes even Mr. 9 9 9 (Herman Cain)  – folks who dare to think for themselves.  However, the inherent cynicism of Democratic liberals is still something to marvel at.

by Daniel Greenfield

Racism is about many things, but it isn’t about race. To understand the uses of race in American liberalism requires understanding its place in the political culture. When American liberals speak of race, they aren’t speaking in the genetic sense; what they are doing is clumsily piggybacking class onto race and adding one dubious construct to another.

The placement of racial politics at the center of liberal advocacy coincided with a growing national prosperity that seemed to be on the way to making class warfare of the old kind irrelevant. Previous liberal civil rights activity had been a subset of class, but class now became a subset of race. And both were a means of liberal self-definition as the people concerned with the plight of the downtrodden.

Class warfare was not really about the poor, it was about using a permanent social problem as a means of recreating the social order and gaining permanent political power. Race is just class dressed up in the same old class warfare clothes so that there is nearly no distinction between the two. Reformers gain power by attacking the failures of the system and positioning a social problem as an open sore that must be healed. But it isn’t healing that they have in mind.

When your power is a product of social problems, then the failure to locate social problems that are an open sore on society, a cry of conscience and a grievous crime that must be faced, leaves you powerless and irrelevant. Once you start running out of legitimate social problems to tackle, then you have no choice but to start creating them or exaggerating them. Whether the problems you are dealing with are real or unreal, your challenge is to find ways to make them worse in order to retain your power and the social relevance of your movement.

Race has very little to do with racial politics which rely on the older methodologies of radicalizing slums and using subsidies to elevate community leaders who will support the reformers, all tactics that date back centuries, and long predate the politicization of race.

When the Democratic Party had its change of heart on race, all it did was take the same methods it used on German, Irish, Jewish and Italian immigrants and shift them to urban African-Americans who had come north and were living in the same neighborhoods formerly occupied by the immigrants. And so the party that during the Civil War orchestrated urban anti-draft riots by white immigrants targeting African-Americans was using the same methods to orchestrate African-American riots aimed at the second and third generation of working class immigrants that it had once fostered. What most people thought of as racial politics was just the Democratic Party doing what it had been doing all along.

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Muslims are not a race, but they have been classified as an oppressed group. Socialism is not a race, but they are the official representatives of all oppressed peoples. To insult either one is to be “racist” because racism refers to majority oppression, and nothing else. To be a racist is to oppose or denigrate the moral worldview of the reformers without reference to the skin color of any of the parties. Therefore, African-American opponents of President Clinton were racists because the terminology of race had nothing to do with the preexisting racial construct. The idea of race, as it had existed in the United States, no longer applied. Words like racism were part of the Newspeak grammar which insisted on appropriating the moral force of the old meanings, but without actually employing those meanings.

Their new definitions are those that serve the purposes of the ideology that commands them.

This liberal lexicon is the Newspeak that is all around us. It relies on the moral power of words while first subtly and then grossly changing their definitions until they no longer have anything to do with the old meaning. The process begins with politicized terminology and ends when the core terminology of a free country like “rights”, “freedom” and “democracy” no longer have anything in common with their formal definitions. Their new definitions are those that serve the purposes of the ideology that commands them.

Regardless of what they are supposed to mean, progressivism, racial tolerance and social justice all mean the same thing. And so in the inverse, racism, conservatism and small government also add up to variations of the same idea in the liberal lexicon. Which might not be so much of a problem if it were not also the lexicon being used by the media, academics, politicians, judges and the entertainment industry to name a few groups who are invested in the altered meanings because they are also invested in the ideology that those meanings support.

Ideologies define a worldview where for compelling moral reasons the ideologues are the only ones who can be safely allowed to rule. Imposing this worldview on the people as often as possible and through every possible venue, from news reporting to novels, and from music to the educational system as allows for the perpetual power of the ideologues. So long as the cause is just, then no possible overreach of power or abuse can ever justify removing the ideologues from their petty thrones.

Their first goal, once in power, is to worsen whatever crisis brought them to power without appearing to do so.

The purpose of any ideology is power. To gain power, the ideology must impose its notion of a crisis and its view of a solution as the right and natural one. Once the proponents of the ideology are empowered to impose a solution, then they gain factional and personal power that allows them to remake the system in ways that will prevent them from being dislodged. Their first goal, once in power, is to worsen whatever crisis brought them to power without appearing to do so. Their solutions deepen the crisis while appearing to devote every resource to resolving it.

The growing prosperity of working classes in the West weakened the crisis of class warfare that had led the left to trumpet that the only alternative to their political reforms was a bloody civil war between the workers and the owners. That was when the left turned to race as their central crisis. Over time, the left has broadened race back to cover the immigration exploitation that they had been engaged in during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. As most of the new immigrants were now non-white, the left rolled their old new crisis into their new old crisis and continued to call the whole thing racism, even when, as with Muslims, they were conflating religion with race.

Crisis is king. Crisis justifies a war on poverty and a war on racism which are actually wars on anything that is an obstacle to the absolute power of the ideology that exploits the crisis. That is why we are now forced to show photo ID’s in order to buy cough medicine when we come down with the flu, but any talk of showing photo ID’s at the voting booth is shouted down as racism. Why is it racism? Because the working definition of racism is anything that interferes with the progressive power structure. Questioning the existence of the crisis is the worst form of racism of them all.

Well over a century after the Civil War and Reconstruction, and half a century after the civil rights movement, do we really need the Federal government looking over the shoulder of states to stop them from controlling their own electoral systems? Is it really in the name of equality that the Federal government steps in and ban non-partisan elections in the city of Kinston for fear that African-Americans won’t know whom to vote for?

Racial justice is the tail of the dog, and the dog is a Democratic Party hound

Protecting African-American voting rights has become code for protecting the Election Day turnout for the Democratic Party. Preventing the wrong kind of redistricting is about maintaining the gerrymandered minority districts which are code for safe Democratic Party seats. Racial justice is the tail of the dog, and the dog is a Democratic Party hound, and it has nothing to do with the old fashioned kind of racism.

The Democratic Party has switched from suppressing minority voters to giving added weight to minority votes, both in violation of the law. The common denominator in both cases is that it does what serves its own interests and calls it defending the rights of the people. The distance between the Red Shirts and the New Black Panther Party, or the Redeemers and the Diversifiers is shorter than most Democrats would like to admit. The bottom line goal in all case was the power of the party.

Ideology is a vehicle for political power, and all the Machiavellian outfits draped around the naked emperor of power do not change that. Western political parties in America, Europe and around the world have traded in the “Labor” ideology that banked on the dissatisfaction of the native working class for a “Diversity” ideology banking on the dissatisfaction of minorities. Such a transition would not have occurred, no matter how much the changing ideas of the left pushed it, if it did not serve the interests of the political machines driving them.

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  1. Speranza
    1 | February 15, 2012 3:16 pm

    The day when the Democratic Party can no longer count on the automatic support of 90-95% of the black voters, is the day it is no longer a major political party.


  2. Moe Katz
    2 | February 15, 2012 3:25 pm

    @ Speranza:
    But isn’t the Latino population more important because of its size and growth potential?


  3. 3 | February 15, 2012 3:27 pm

    @ Speranza:

    That day won’t come until the blacks shake off the chains of the race-hustlers, though, and I don’t see that happening any time soon. Racism isn’t dead, but if by “racist” you mean someone who believes that all a man is, that the whole of his being, his worth, and value, can be summed up in what color his skin is, then I have to say that the vast majority of the racists in this country are on the Left side of the aisle, and not a few of them are of the darker skin tones.


  4. Speranza
    4 | February 15, 2012 3:28 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    But isn’t the Latino population more important because of its size and growth potential?

    I don’t know and I hate the Balkanization of the American electorate.


  5. Speranza
    5 | February 15, 2012 3:29 pm

    Percentage wise -- more Republican Senators voted for the Civil Rights Act then Democrats.


  6. Speranza
    6 | February 15, 2012 3:29 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    That day won’t come until the blacks shake off the chains of the race-hustlers, though, and I don’t see that happening any time soon.

    Sadly I think you’re right.


  7. Lily
    7 | February 15, 2012 3:30 pm

    Did she die in battle????

    NJ flags to fly at half-staff for Whitney Houston

    TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie says he will order flags flown at half-staff at state government buildings Saturday in memory of Whitney Houston.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46400166/ns/local_news-delaware_valley_pa_nj/


  8. Moe Katz
    8 | February 15, 2012 3:32 pm

    It is Balkanized alright. The number of Jews who vote Democrat, against their own interests, is ridiculous.


  9. MikeA
    9 | February 15, 2012 3:33 pm

    @ Lily:

    That is sickening. A hero from WW II or even the current wars in Iraq or Afghanistan can die but who cares. A drugged out singer who happened to have a good voice, lets all cry and sit in sack cloth for 3 days. Give me a break.


  10. Lily
    10 | February 15, 2012 3:34 pm

    From what I can tell this country is very much divided. The term racist is being thrown around like rain in a thunder storm. Not only is race being bandied around also the war on the rich….class warfare.


  11. 11 | February 15, 2012 3:35 pm

    @ Moe Katz:

    That won’t change despite Obama’s overt hostility to Israel and borderline anti-Semitism over the issue. That is a sad fact.


  12. Moe Katz
    12 | February 15, 2012 3:36 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    indeed


  13. 13 | February 15, 2012 3:36 pm

    @ Lily:

    It isn’t war on the real rich, though. The Obama’s are going to be exempt, as will Nancy Pelosie. It is a war on the upper middle class and small businesses, disguised as class warfare against the wealthy.


  14. 14 | February 15, 2012 3:37 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Its always been that way. Its just the Democrats are experts at that game. The GOP does it as well, but they do it sloppily.


  15. 15 | February 15, 2012 3:37 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    But isn’t the Latino population more important because of its size and growth potential?

    Tell that to the Republican Party. They don’t seem to grasp it nor do they care.


  16. Speranza
    16 | February 15, 2012 3:39 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    It is Balkanized alright. The number of Jews who vote Democrat, against their own interests, is ridiculous.

    Their religion is liberalism more then it is Judaism.


  17. 17 | February 15, 2012 3:40 pm

    @ Speranza:
    @ Iron Fist:

    Blacks are part of the Democratic Party’s power structure. They have too much invested in them as a Party. So the GOP needs to forget about them. They need to focus on getting 40-45% of the Hispanic vote. Bush for all his faults got it. Perry, Huntsman and Newt did as well. Santorum and Romney, not so much.

    Oh well!


  18. Lily
    18 | February 15, 2012 3:40 pm

    MikeA wrote:

    @ Lily:

    That is sickening. A hero from WW II or even the current wars in Iraq or Afghanistan can die but who cares. A drugged out singer who happened to have a good voice, lets all dry and sit in sack cloth for 3 days. Give me a break.

    It is sickening. I thought there were rules concerning how the flag is flown. Apparently there aren’t. I don’t remember flags being flown at half-staff when Patrick Swayze died…or any other entertainer who has died.
    I also think this is about race too. If she were white would this be happening?
    Not to mention all the moaning and groaning over her death…which is tragic by all means. But no mention of it possibly being a suicide…which in this case sounds like it was in my opinion. Her voice was gone, she was out of money there she was at the Grammy’s which just seemed to be rubbing her face into what she used to be.


  19. Speranza
    19 | February 15, 2012 3:40 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Moe Katz:
    That won’t change despite Obama’s overt hostility to Israel and borderline anti-Semitism over the issue. That is a sad fact.

    Actually I believe it will shift some votes to the GOP. The precedent is there in 1980 with Jimmy Carter.


  20. 20 | February 15, 2012 3:41 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    It is a war on the upper middle class and small businesses, disguised as class warfare against the wealthy.

    Well said. Its a Rich on the Upper Middle Class and Businessmen. Thats why I said the GOP should turn the tables and propose raising taxes on people making more than a Million Dollars. That would hurt the Democrats. But the GOP doesn’t think outside the box.


  21. Speranza
    21 | February 15, 2012 3:41 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Tell that to the Republican Party. They don’t seem to grasp it nor do they care.

    The yahoos don’t.


  22. 22 | February 15, 2012 3:42 pm

    @ Speranza:

    The Yahoos run the Party now. Hopefully after this election, they will be put in their place.


  23. Speranza
    23 | February 15, 2012 3:42 pm

    @ Rodan:
    I think if we can peel away enough Black votes so the Democrats get 80% instead of 95%, that would be a huge help. I do not expect us to get a majority of the Black vote even if Lincoln were to come back and be our candidate.


  24. 24 | February 15, 2012 3:43 pm

    @ Speranza:

    It would help a bit.


  25. 25 | February 15, 2012 3:44 pm

    Lily wrote:

    or any other entertainer who has died.

    They flew at half-staff in California when John Wayne died. I remember that from when I was a kid. That is about the only entertainer I can think of that honor being given to, though. And Whitney Houston isn’t in John Wayne’s class. She just isn’t.


  26. Speranza
    26 | February 15, 2012 3:44 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    The Yahoos run the Party now. Hopefully after this election, they will be put in their place.

    They have been pandered to for way too long.


  27. Lily
    27 | February 15, 2012 3:45 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Lily:

    It isn’t war on the real rich, though. The Obama’s are going to be exempt, as will Nancy Pelosie. It is a war on the upper middle class and small businesses, disguised as class warfare against the wealthy.

    Oh indeed I know. Which is truly ironic..the obama’s run around the world spending large swathes of money on toney vacations, Pelosi is very rich but these people are complaining about the rich. Why don’t they give up some of the money they have???? I am sick of these type of people shoveling their ‘concept’ of what is just and unjust down our throats.


  28. Speranza
    28 | February 15, 2012 3:45 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Actually I do not get too upset if the fly the flag at half staff for her.


  29. Lily
    29 | February 15, 2012 3:47 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    or any other entertainer who has died.

    They flew at half-staff in California when John Wayne died. I remember that from when I was a kid. That is about the only entertainer I can think of that honor being given to, though. And Whitney Houston isn’t in John Wayne’s class. She just isn’t.

    No she wasn’t. John Wayne was seen as patriotic.


  30. 30 | February 15, 2012 3:47 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Oh, I’m not pissed off about it, but it does seem a little much. I don’t have much use for the entertainment industry as a whole, though. Used to be actors were considered to be about the same social class as prostitutes. The class of the actors didn’t change, just society’s views of them. I don’t really know why.


  31. Lily
    31 | February 15, 2012 3:48 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Actually I do not get too upset if the fly the flag at half staff for her.

    I’m not upset. Just wondering if this is normal. Seems a bit overboard.


  32. Lily
    32 | February 15, 2012 3:55 pm

    @ Lily:

    I wonder if they fly the flag at half staff whenever a soldier dies from NJ?? That is the sickening part.
    /a person dies for our country and it will not get flown half staff.
    A troubled singer dies and it is.
    There is a bit of disconnect here.


  33. Speranza
    33 | February 15, 2012 3:57 pm

    Lily wrote:

    No she wasn’t. John Wayne was seen as patriotic.

    I liked the Duke but when the Big Show (WWII) happened, he did not serve.


  34. Lily
    34 | February 15, 2012 4:00 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I wonder why? Health?


  35. RIX
    35 | February 15, 2012 4:00 pm

    Addressing racial issues is like grabbing the third rail.
    Holder calls us all “cowards” on the issue of race.
    That is beause he is just one more guy pimping race.
    He will tell what to think and how to express it.
    We can never have an honest national discussiion, because
    you are expected to first admit your guilt and repent.


  36. Speranza
    36 | February 15, 2012 4:00 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Used to be actors were considered to be about the same social class as prostitutes.

    In Shakespeare’s time they certainly were considered to be one step above prostitutes and criminals.


  37. Speranza
    37 | February 15, 2012 4:02 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I wonder why? Health?

    According to wikipedia (not sure how accurate this is).

    America’s entry into World War II resulted in a deluge of support for the war effort from all sectors of society, and Hollywood was no exception. Wayne was exempted from service due to his age (34 at the time of Pearl Harbor) and family status, classified as 3-A (family deferment). He repeatedly wrote to John Ford, asking to be placed in Ford’s military unit, but consistently postponed it until “after he finished one more film”,[23] Wayne did not attempt to prevent his reclassification as 1-A (draft eligible), but Republic Studios was emphatically resistant to losing him; Herbert J. Yates, President of Republic, threatened Wayne with a lawsuit if he walked away from his contract[24] and Republic Pictures intervened in the Selective Service process, requesting Wayne’s further deferment.[25]


  38. Moe Katz
    38 | February 15, 2012 4:04 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Moe Katz wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    I hate the Balkanization of the American electorate.

    What have you got against people from Yugoslavia?
    /


  39. Speranza
    39 | February 15, 2012 4:06 pm

    More about John Wayne that I find interesting

    An urban legend has it that John Wayne was offered the leading role of Matt Dillon in the longtime favorite television show Gunsmoke, but he turned it down, recommending instead James Arness for the role. The only part of this story that is true is that Wayne did indeed recommend Arness for the part. Wayne introduced Arness in a prologue to the first episode of Gunsmoke.


  40. Speranza
    40 | February 15, 2012 4:07 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    What have you got against people from Yugoslavia?
    /

    You mean The Former Yugoslavia -- which actually sounds like the name of a real country.


  41. 41 | February 15, 2012 4:09 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Did she die in battle????

    NJ flags to fly at half-staff for Whitney Houston

    TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie says he will order flags flown at half-staff at state government buildings Saturday in memory of Whitney Houston.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46400166/ns/local_news-delaware_valley_pa_nj/

    If she died in battle, she’d be portrayed correctly on a statue. But if she didn’t, well then, they’d have to put her on all fours wouldn’t they…this is getting RIDICULOUS!


  42. Lily
    42 | February 15, 2012 4:10 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Addressing racial issues is like grabbing the third rail.
    Holder calls us all “cowards” on the issue of race.
    That is beause he is just one more guy pimping race.
    He will tell what to think and how to express it.
    We can never have an honest national discussiion, because
    you are expected to first admit your guilt and repent.

    Guilt for what? Something that happened a long time ago that I didn’t have anything to do with? As far as I am concerned I don’t care what your color of skin is or a matter of fact what color hair you have. I equate the two on the same scale. We are all humans and bleed red blood. What about the white endentured slaves oh they were called servants but in reality they were nothing more than slaves too. Personally like I said I don’t care what a persons skin color is this really shouldn’t matter. It is who the person is inside that matters.
    Our country is very divided.

    http://www.ushistory.org/us/5b.asp


  43. Moe Katz
    43 | February 15, 2012 4:11 pm

    @ Macker:
    Hey, it’s politics. She was popular in NJ and they were proud of her, plus she was African American. Politics as usual.


  44. Lily
    44 | February 15, 2012 4:13 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Sounds like he was between a rock and hard place concerning joining the service to fight in WW2.


  45. Da_Beerfreak
    45 | February 15, 2012 4:18 pm

    Idi Obama strikes again…
    Obama Wrecks the Mars Program
    If something is good for America Idi Obama will find a way to stop it. :evil:


  46. 46 | February 15, 2012 4:23 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Idi Obama strikes again…
    Obama Wrecks the Mars Program
    If something is good for America Idi Obama will find a way to stop it.

    News Flash, this is old news being repackaged as new news. I’ve been unemployed for 2 and a half years because of this.


  47. coldwarrior
    47 | February 15, 2012 4:24 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Moe Katz wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    But isn’t the Latino population more important because of its size and growth potential?

    Tell that to the Republican Party. They don’t seem to grasp it nor do they care.

    What? I say! If we allow THAT to happen, well, then ‘they’ will demand membership at the CC or something horrendous like that!

    It’s bad enough we have to hire them for greens-keeping.

    Best Regards,
    -Coldwarrior
    President, BGGCC
    Chair, Awards Committee


  48. citizen_q
    48 | February 15, 2012 4:24 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    No she wasn’t. John Wayne was seen as patriotic.
    I liked the Duke but when the Big Show (WWII) happened, he did not serve.

    I was always a fan. I liked John Wayne.

    My father, wounded 3 times in WWII, and losing his left leg, not so much for that reason.


  49. 49 | February 15, 2012 4:25 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    @ Speranza:

    I wonder what they called the Film Actors’ Guild in Shakespeare’s time?


  50. Speranza
    50 | February 15, 2012 4:27 pm

    @ Macker:
    You got this obsession with folks who bat from a different side of the plate.


  51. 51 | February 15, 2012 4:27 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    @ doriangrey:

    أوباما must be decreeing that nothing and no one can be above Allah.


  52. Moe Katz
    52 | February 15, 2012 4:28 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Bah, I wouldn’t belong to any club that would have the likes of me as a member.


  53. RIX
    53 | February 15, 2012 4:28 pm

    @ Lily:
    I agree with you, but Obama beleives in collective guilt.
    A lot of people wallow in the guilt.


  54. 54 | February 15, 2012 4:30 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Bullshit Speranza! Have you already forgotten Team America? You must have! Republic’s interference in a National Security matter is another reason why Hollywood is out of control, just like the Federal Government.


  55. Da_Beerfreak
    55 | February 15, 2012 4:30 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    Idi Obama strikes again…
    Obama Wrecks the Mars Program
    If something is good for America Idi Obama will find a way to stop it.

    News Flash, this is old news being repackaged as new news. I’ve been unemployed for 2 and a half years because of this.

    If that story is a bit too old for your liking let’s try this on on for size. :twisted:
    US regulators pull plug on LightSquared
    The Funny Cookie Company spanks one of Idi Obama’s campaign contributors. :lol:


  56. Da_Beerfreak
    56 | February 15, 2012 4:33 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Macker:
    You got this obsession with folks who bat from a different side of the plate.

    You’ve noticed that too. :roll:


  57. darkwords
    57 | February 15, 2012 4:35 pm

    Interesting article. Maybe BigBrietbart will take it on.

    The Gop needs to stop the left from defining racism. They could do it with some well placed personal stories and anedoctes.

    They should poll the American public for racial intent.

    1. Would you have a white friend?
    2. Would you adopt a white baby?
    3. Would you marry a white person?

    poll all the races and see how they stand. Then the coward Eric Holder can have the conversation he wants but doesn’t want.

    Maybe Ann Coulter phrased it best. There are Americans and there are cowards.


  58. citizen_q
    58 | February 15, 2012 4:35 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I agree with you, but Obama beleives in collective guilt.

    Isn’t he half-white?


  59. 59 | February 15, 2012 4:36 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    The entire point of my citing the Film Actors’ Guild is that it was a vehicle by Parker and Stone to highlight the liberal lunacy of Hollywood….not discussion of ghey matters.
    I’m sorry that you too have that myopic issue.


  60. coldwarrior
    60 | February 15, 2012 4:36 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Bah, I wouldn’t belong to any club that would have the likes of me as a member.

    a classic line! one of groucho’s best.


  61. 61 | February 15, 2012 4:37 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    He is…a Mulatto.


  62. darkwords
    62 | February 15, 2012 4:37 pm

    @ 5 Speranza: Left handed people are a big problem for this country. They are always bumping into me at the dinner table. Or reaching wrongly for the same slice of bread.


  63. Moe Katz
    63 | February 15, 2012 4:37 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Thought you’d recognize it :)


  64. darkwords
    64 | February 15, 2012 4:40 pm

    @ 58 citizen_q: Obama is considered a white person in Brazil


  65. 65 | February 15, 2012 4:41 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 58 citizen_q: Obama is considered a white person in Brazil

    I’ll bet that does not make him happy. Or does it?


  66. Da_Beerfreak
    66 | February 15, 2012 4:41 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 58 citizen_q: Obama is considered a white person in Brazil

    Too bad he didn’t stay in Brazil. :evil:


  67. 67 | February 15, 2012 4:42 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    Idi Obama strikes again…
    Obama Wrecks the Mars Program
    If something is good for America Idi Obama will find a way to stop it.
    News Flash, this is old news being repackaged as new news. I’ve been unemployed for 2 and a half years because of this.

    If that story is a bit too old for your liking let’s try this on on for size.
    US regulators pull plug on LightSquared
    The Funny Cookie Company spanks one of Idi Obama’s campaign contributors.

    Well, I didn’t work for Lightsquared, I worked for a company that held contracts for the Mar’s mission. When I tell people that my name is on Mar’s, I am not joking. When I tell them that my name is in orbit around Mar’s and the Earth, I still am not joking. My name is written in Sharpie in-between the layers of carbon fiber composite on the landing platform’s that took the Spirit and Sojourner exploratory vehicles to Mar’s, and show’s up very nicely under X-ray. My name can likewise be found on half a dozen satellites and in several components on the ISS.


  68. Moe Katz
    68 | February 15, 2012 4:44 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    With all the Brazil nuts.


  69. citizen_q
    69 | February 15, 2012 4:44 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    He is…a Mulatto.

    On no! Just thought of another demeaning nickname for obama, Mulatt_O!


  70. RIX
    70 | February 15, 2012 4:44 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    I agree with you, but Obama beleives in collective guilt.
    Isn’t he half-white?

    He renounced his White blood, “just like Malcolm”
    Sounds to me like he is a racist.


  71. citizen_q
    71 | February 15, 2012 4:48 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Sounds to me like he is a racist.

    That really was my point. That and people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

    If you are a hammer, all of your problems are nails.


  72. citizen_q
    72 | February 15, 2012 4:49 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    With all the Brazil nuts.

    Funny you should bring those up. I heard a more colorful name for those type of nuts.


  73. Da_Beerfreak
    73 | February 15, 2012 4:49 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Back in the ’70′s I worked at a division of the company that built the solar wings for the space lab. The ones that didn’t unfold after launch. :oops:

    The division I worked for built all the crt monitors for the Huston control center. :grin:


  74. coldwarrior
    74 | February 15, 2012 4:51 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 5 Speranza: Left handed people are a big problem for this country. They are always bumping into me at the dinner table. Or reaching wrongly for the same slice of bread.

    And they are quite dangerous on a golf course.

    Best Regards,
    -Coldwarrior
    President, BGGCC
    Chair, Awards Committee


  75. Moe Katz
    75 | February 15, 2012 4:52 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Moe Katz wrote:
    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    With all the Brazil nuts.

    Funny you should bring those up. I heard a more colorful name for those type of nuts.

    Ra-a-a-acist!!!


  76. coldwarrior
    76 | February 15, 2012 4:52 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Thought you’d recognize it

    loves me some marx brothers

    words to live by.


  77. citizen_q
    77 | February 15, 2012 4:53 pm

    @ Moe Katz:
    :-) guilty


  78. 78 | February 15, 2012 4:55 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Back in the ’70′s I worked at a division of the company that built the solar wings for the space lab. The ones that didn’t unfold after launch.
    The division I worked for built all the crt monitors for the Huston control center.

    Meh, that’s nothing………. My brothers FiL’s company ground the mirrors for the Hubble…………… :shock:


  79. Da_Beerfreak
    79 | February 15, 2012 4:55 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    That’s what everybody called them back when I was a kid. :wink:


  80. coldwarrior
    80 | February 15, 2012 4:56 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Back in the ’70′s I worked at a division of the company that built the solar wings for the space lab. The ones that didn’t unfold after launch

    oops!


  81. coldwarrior
    81 | February 15, 2012 4:56 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Meh, that’s nothing………. My brothers FiL’s company ground the mirrors for the Hubble……………

    OOOOOOPPPPSSSSS!!!!


  82. 82 | February 15, 2012 4:59 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Meh, that’s nothing………. My brothers FiL’s company ground the mirrors for the Hubble……………
    OOOOOOPPPPSSSSS!!!!

    Yea, a OOOOOPPPPPSSSS made all the worse by the fact that the companies name had the word OPTICS in it.


  83. Moe Katz
    83 | February 15, 2012 5:00 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Brilliant. And somewhat inspired by Gilbert and Sullivan, I’d say.


  84. Da_Beerfreak
    84 | February 15, 2012 5:01 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    Back in the ’70′s I worked at a division of the company that built the solar wings for the space lab. The ones that didn’t unfold after launch.
    The division I worked for built all the crt monitors for the Huston control center.

    Meh, that’s nothing………. My brothers FiL’s company ground the mirrors for the Hubble……………

    At least those were problems that could be fixed. The latest Russian Mars probe on the other hand…


  85. Lost
    85 | February 15, 2012 5:02 pm

    Are we talking space?


  86. 86 | February 15, 2012 5:04 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    :lol:


  87. Da_Beerfreak
    87 | February 15, 2012 5:04 pm

    Lost wrote:

    Are we talking space?

    Sure.
    Outer space and/or the empty space between a liberal’s ears. :twisted:


  88. 88 | February 15, 2012 5:05 pm

    @ Lost:

    Yes.


  89. coldwarrior
    89 | February 15, 2012 5:07 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    doriangrey wrote:
    Meh, that’s nothing………. My brothers FiL’s company ground the mirrors for the Hubble……………
    OOOOOOPPPPSSSSS!!!!

    Yea, a OOOOOPPPPPSSSS made all the worse by the fact that the companies name had the word OPTICS in it.

    well, the fix made for great television!


  90. 90 | February 15, 2012 5:08 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    So did they ever determine why Skylab’s solar panels deployed prematurely?


  91. 91 | February 15, 2012 5:08 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 58 citizen_q: Obama is considered a white person in Brazil

    Actually no. He would be considered Mulatto.


  92. 92 | February 15, 2012 5:09 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    On no! Just thought of another demeaning nickname for obama, Mulatt_O!

    I’m glad you came up with that, and not me. 8)


  93. 93 | February 15, 2012 5:09 pm

    @ Rodan:

    GMTA!


  94. citizen_q
    94 | February 15, 2012 5:11 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    @ Moe Katz:

    Sigh, was thinking of combining my #69 and #72, but thought the better of it.


  95. Moe Katz
    95 | February 15, 2012 5:13 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    Oh-h-h…. clever :)


  96. Da_Beerfreak
    96 | February 15, 2012 5:16 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    So did they ever determine why Skylab’s solar panels deployed prematurely?

    The vibrations during launch was a lot higher than expected. A lot of things got shook loose during that launch. :oops:


  97. Moe Katz
    97 | February 15, 2012 5:18 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    @ Moe Katz:
    Sigh, was thinking of combining my #69 and #72, but thought the better of it.

    Umm, would that only be half as ra-a-a-cist?


  98. RIX
    98 | February 15, 2012 5:19 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    Sounds to me like he is a racist.
    That really was my point. That and people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
    If you are a hammer, all of your problems are nails.

    I’m going to use that line.


  99. 99 | February 15, 2012 5:21 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Would it be safe to say, then, that since they redesigned the Saturn V’s third stage into Skylab, the structural integrity was compromised enough to cause it to be unable to withstand the vibrations which it otherwise would have survived, i.e. for another Apollo moon mission?


  100. 100 | February 15, 2012 5:21 pm

    @ Moe Katz:

    [Sends the Spelling Police to Moe Katz's Residence]


  101. Da_Beerfreak
    101 | February 15, 2012 5:27 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Would it be safe to say, then, that since they redesigned the Saturn V’s third stage into Skylab, the structural integrity was compromised enough to cause it to be unable to withstand the vibrations which it otherwise would have survived, i.e. for another Apollo moon mission?

    Don’t know. Only heard about the current problems at the time with the solar wings and the Honeywell heat resistant coating that flaked off. Remember the tarp they had to rig over part of the space lab to shade it from the sun??


  102. RIX
    102 | February 15, 2012 5:27 pm

    Just a little food for thought. On page 171 of Patients
    Protection & Affordable Care Act there is a religious.
    conscience exmption. It is regarding the individual
    mandate to purchase health insurance.
    Hmmm, is there some religion that might benefit?
    Could it be Islam?


  103. Moe Katz
    103 | February 15, 2012 5:31 pm

    @ RIX:
    Is there any other religion that considers insurance to be a form of gambling and therefore Haram?


  104. buzzsawmonkey
    104 | February 15, 2012 5:31 pm

    Back in the old days before galloping Democratic race-pimping, it was common to greet people by saying, “It’s a great day for the race!” Usually, the person so greeted would say confusedly, “What race?”, thinking they were unaware of a sporting event.

    “The human race!” the first person would usually reply, with a guffaw and a back-slap.

    We need to return to that era of simple, innocent vulgarity.


  105. Moe Katz
    105 | February 15, 2012 5:32 pm

    @ RIX:
    And are you trying to imply that Obama is more eager to accommodate Muslim religious consciences than Catholic ones?


  106. coldwarrior
    106 | February 15, 2012 5:33 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Moe Katz:
    [Sends the Spelling Police to Moe Katz's Residence]

    he did say half r-a-a-a-a-a-cist, and 2.5 rounds up to 3, so no spelling nazis.


  107. RIX
    107 | February 15, 2012 5:33 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Is there any other religion that considers insurance to be a form of gambling and therefore Haram?

    Can’t think of any. Hey, you don’t think that Obama
    has a soft spot for Muslims?/


  108. RIX
    108 | February 15, 2012 5:35 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ RIX:
    And are you trying to imply that Obama is more eager to accommodate Muslim religious consciences than Catholic ones?

    You know it does look that way, but I must just be
    missing something./


  109. Bumr50
    109 | February 15, 2012 5:40 pm


    Texas Redistricting Dispute May Make State Irrelevant In GOP Nomination Battle

    Having already been moved back from March 6th to April, any realistic prospective date is quickly sliding into May and even a June date has already been suggested by a judge, as minority groups and the state fail to achieve a compromise acceptable to both sides.

    More primary shenanigans.


  110. coldwarrior
    110 | February 15, 2012 5:42 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    what a coinkidink!

    not


  111. coldwarrior
    111 | February 15, 2012 5:42 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    More primary shenanigans.

    hold on there buddy. did you just call shenanigans?


  112. Bumr50
    112 | February 15, 2012 5:43 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I most certainly did!


  113. coldwarrior
    113 | February 15, 2012 5:46 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I most certainly did!

    well then


  114. Bumr50
    114 | February 15, 2012 5:46 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    At least the voters are fighting back this year.

    Waldo County Republicans call for censure of state GOP chairman after caucus controversy


  115. coldwarrior
    115 | February 15, 2012 5:48 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    At least the voters are fighting back this year.
    Waldo County Republicans call for censure of state GOP chairman after caucus controversy

    censure? why not tar a feathering?


  116. 116 | February 15, 2012 5:49 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Did she die in battle????
    NJ flags to fly at half-staff for Whitney Houston
    TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie says he will order flags flown at half-staff at state government buildings Saturday in memory of Whitney Houston.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46400166/ns/local_news-delaware_valley_pa_nj/

    Why? Because she could sing? Lots of people can sing.


  117. Bumr50
    117 | February 15, 2012 5:54 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    That’s in Maine.

    Wait til the Texas Republicans figure out they’re getting screwed…


  118. coldwarrior
    118 | February 15, 2012 5:54 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    Why? Because she could sing? Lots of people can sing.

    yep. that’s all it takes in the garden state i guess.


  119. coldwarrior
    119 | February 15, 2012 5:54 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    That’s in Maine.
    Wait til the Texas Republicans figure out they’re getting screwed…

    :lol:

    should be pretty funny


  120. coldwarrior
    120 | February 15, 2012 5:55 pm

    @ father_of_10:

    they did lower the flags in NJ for frank when he passed, but that makes sense, i would have ordered them lowered as well.


  121. citizen_q
    121 | February 15, 2012 5:56 pm

    @ Moe Katz:
    Sorry I think more. I like to joke and mock, but that one just might be crossing a line.

    @ RIX:
    Feel free, I did not make that one up however.


  122. eaglesoars
    122 | February 15, 2012 6:05 pm

    Well, maybe the hispanics on the left will start to figure out they’re on the Taken For Granted Plantation

    So, leftist WaPo Columnist Dana Milbank “inadvertently” mocks latinos by stating “The Chimichanga? It may be the only thing Republicans have left to offer Latinos.” And subsequently Obama Campaign Manager Jim Messina tweets that this is “the line of the day” and the twitterverse is afire. Lots of Hispanic folks on the right side of the aisle are insulted by not just the insensitivity of the original remark, but the supporting tweet by none other the the President’s Campaign manger.

    I can understand why some of us would be insulted. The remarks are definitely insensitive. But there are two things which insult me even more than these statements.

    First, the abject hypocrisy of the left, with their holier than thou bullshit with regards to racial and ethnic issues, who have, whether through silence or excuses, defended Milbank and Messina.

    Second, and most importantly, the silence from most of our “liberal” Latino brothers and sisters, who have almost collectively stuck their tails between their legs and hidden in a corner and ignored these blatant acts of racial discrimination. As if ignoring this will make it any less egregious or any less insulting or any less real.

    Here’s my message to those liberal Latinos: Come on over to the dark side, amigos. Where you’ll be considered equals, where your success will be limited only by your determination and where you won’t be treated like chimichanga eating chattel.


  123. Moe Katz
    123 | February 15, 2012 6:15 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    They also flew flags at half staff for Basie, and justly so.


  124. 124 | February 15, 2012 6:19 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Moe actually wrote:

    half as ra-a-a-cist

    So by your own standards, half of 3 is 1.5. Sorry, the Spelling Police go. 8)


  125. Moe Katz
    125 | February 15, 2012 6:20 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    Maybe I didn’t guess correctly what you had in mind. Maybe we’d better leave it at that.


  126. 126 | February 15, 2012 6:21 pm

    Macker wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Moe actually wrote:
    half as ra-a-a-cist
    So by your own standards, half of 3 is 1.5. Sorry, the Spelling Police go.

    Ya…. Everybody knows that Raaaaacist has five a’s in it…. :razz:


  127. citizen_q
    127 | February 15, 2012 6:22 pm

    @ Moe Katz:
    agreed.


  128. Moe Katz
    128 | February 15, 2012 6:23 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Macker wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    Moe actually wrote:
    half as ra-a-a-cist
    So by your own standards, half of 3 is 1.5. Sorry, the Spelling Police go.

    Ya…. Everybody knows that Raaaaacist has five a’s in it….

    And what about hyphens? Isn’t there an official location for those, too?


  129. 129 | February 15, 2012 6:32 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Macker wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    Moe actually wrote:
    half as ra-a-a-cist
    So by your own standards, half of 3 is 1.5. Sorry, the Spelling Police go.
    Ya…. Everybody knows that Raaaaacist has five a’s in it….

    And what about hyphens? Isn’t there an official location for those, too?

    Nope… Raaaaacist definitely does not have any hyphens in it… :twisted:


  130. 130 | February 15, 2012 6:45 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    Why? Because she could sing? Lots of people can sing.

    Don’t mean to pile on the dead, but she didn’t exactly die in some noble, self-sacrificing way, or in some terrible airline crash either.


  131. coldwarrior
    131 | February 15, 2012 6:45 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Nope… Raaaaacist definitely does not have any hyphens in it… :twisted:

    alternative canadian spelling, for nafta markets


  132. coldwarrior
    132 | February 15, 2012 6:46 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    They also flew flags at half staff for Basie, and justly so.

    yeah, i would have gone for that too.


  133. Moe Katz
    133 | February 15, 2012 7:03 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    @ coldwarrior:
    I’ve been Googling it and it does seem that there’s a standard blogosphere spelling, 5 a’s and no hyphens. I expect it will be in DSM-V as a new personality disorder, under that spelling.


  134. coldwarrior
    134 | February 15, 2012 7:03 pm

    new thread


  135. coldwarrior
    135 | February 15, 2012 7:04 pm

    @ Moe Katz:

    what is the primary axis?


  136. Moe Katz
    136 | February 15, 2012 7:07 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Axis II


  137. 137 | February 15, 2012 7:18 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Nope… Raaaaacist definitely does not have any hyphens in it…
    alternative canadian spelling, for nafta markets

    Nope… As we have all been told over and overt and over again, African-Americans cannot be raaaaacist’s as it is physically impossible, and since African-American has a hyphen in it, therefore it is physically impossible to spell raaaaacist with a hyphen. :twisted:


  138. The Osprey
    138 | February 15, 2012 7:36 pm

    Tacos: RAAAAACIST

    Chimichangas: NOT RAAAAACIST

    h/t Weasel Zip.


  139. waldensianspirit
    139 | February 15, 2012 7:46 pm

    http://bcove.me/mvjfzvza


  140. The Osprey
    140 | February 15, 2012 7:52 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    http://bcove.me/mvjfzvza

    Nice.


  141. 141 | February 15, 2012 8:06 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    Tacos: RAAAAACIST
    Chimichangas: NOT RAAAAACIST

    h/t Weasel Zip.

    Double standard. As a Non Mexican Hispanic I am offended! Why no Empanada jokes!
    :wink:


  142. The Osprey
    142 | February 15, 2012 8:18 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:

    Tacos: RAAAAACIST
    Chimichangas: NOT RAAAAACIST

    h/t Weasel Zip.

    Double standard. As a Non Mexican Hispanic I am offended! Why no Empanada jokes!

    Mmmmm… Empanadas. Now you are making me hungry. Years ago when I lived in Palo Alto there was a downtown food court that had a number of different restaurant stalls in it. A Chinese place, a Japanese place, a black woman who did Kansas city style BBQ. But the best place there was run by a Chilean guy from Valparaiso who made these awesome empanadas. They had ground beef or chicken, shredded carrots, potatoes, onions and raisins in them.


  143. 143 | February 15, 2012 8:28 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    You are making me do an Empanda run! My preference is the Cuban/Dominican style. I notice South American Empandas have potatoes and veggies.


  144. The Osprey
    144 | February 15, 2012 8:46 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ The Osprey:

    You are making me do an Empanda run! My preference is the Cuban/Dominican style. I notice South American Empandas have potatoes and veggies.

    There’s a Cuban restaurant here in PHX that does pretty good empanadas. Havana Cafe. They have a peppers, onions and ground beef filling.


  145. 145 | February 15, 2012 9:13 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    They have a peppers, onions and ground beef filling.

    Yup, that’s Caribbean style.


  146. 146 | February 15, 2012 9:13 pm

    New Thread.


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