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Dems eat their own too…and Open Thread

by coldwarrior ( 58 Comments › )
Filed under Democratic Party, Elections 2012, Open thread, Politics at March 3rd, 2012 - 12:00 pm

We all know about how the GoP is trying to get rid of Alan West by re-redistricting him out of the running. Well, the Dems are doing the same thing to my Blue Dog, votes with the Republicans more than most Republicans, Democrat Congressman Jason Altmire. You see, Jason voted against Obamacare, has a great track record on the second Amendment, and is more of a fiscon than most in the Congress. So now the Democrat Party Machine in PA is allowing a carpetbagger to muscle in from the out of town. I will bet the former speaker is all for this stunt.

 

Who is this carpetbagger? Why it’s none other than U.S. Rep. Mark Critz, remember him? He was the hand picked replacement and lifelong political flunkey/gopher-it boy/ man servant for the traitor John ‘Haditha Marines‘ Murtha (burn in hell, John you traitorous bastard. SPIT!). PA-12 got redistricted now the rats are fleeing that nasty, run down joint. Now Critz is challenging Jason’s signatures to be on the ballot. If he wins this challenge, Jason is out.

 

If Critz can pull this off, That eliminates one of the last Patriotic Democrats, a Truman Democrat of the Old School, and enemy of former Speaker Pelosi. It also assures that whomever the GoP runs against Critz will win. This isn’t PA-12, we are a Red District and have been for two cycles. So, I invited Jason again to join the GoP, He is already more conservative than most of the spineless GoP punks anyway.

 

A Commonwealth Court judge will decide Monday if enough signatures on U.S. Rep. Jason Altmire’s nominating petition are valid, thus determining if he stays on the Democratic primary ballot April 24 in the new 12th Congressional District.

Altmire’s primary opponent, U.S. Rep. Mark Critz of Johnstown, challenged nearly 950 of the 1,651 signatures Altmire, of McCandless Township, submitted. Candidates must have 1,000 valid signatures to appear on the ballot.

At a hearing Friday in Pittsburgh, both sides ultimately agreed to have the decision come down to whether 200 signatures collected by Abby Silverman, Altmire’s fundraising assistant and director of new media, should be allowed.

Critz’s campaign maintains that the signatures she collected should be ruled invalid because she lives outside the district in the Shadyside section of Pittsburgh. Altmire’s representatives contend that Silverman lives in O’Hara Township.

The two incumbent Democrats are facing each other in the primary because redistricting moved the former 4th Congressional District that Altmire represented and reconfigured the 12th District so that it includes parts of areas now represented by both.

 

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The increasingly nasty election battle between U.S. Reps. Mark Critz and Jason Altmire may hinge on which place a judge determines is the legal residence of a young campaign staff worker: her parents’ home, or an apartment she shares outside of the newly redrawn 12th District.

Republicans who control Harrisburg created the Western Pennsylvania district to force the Democrats into a primary contest during the once-a-decade process of revising boundaries to reflect population shifts.

The dispute landed in court on Friday, and Commonwealth Court Judge Dan Pellegrini said he would rule on the matter as early as Monday. His decision could knock Altmire of McCandless off the ballot, potentially ending his bid for a fourth term in Congress.

Critz of Johnstown, who is serving his first full term, claims that about 200 petition signatures submitted by Altmire’s campaign are not valid because a young staff worker who collected them shares an apartment outside of the district. If Critz succeeds in getting those petitions thrown out, Altmire would be left with about 950 signatures, or less than the required 1,000, a spokesman for Critz said.

But Pellegrini questioned a key aspect of that argument during a hearing, noting that Altmire’s campaign worker is a registered voter in the 12th District.

David Montgomery, Altmire’s lawyer, presented dozens of pieces of evidence showing that the 23-year-old campaign worker still lists her parents’ address in O’Hara on her driver’s license, bills, pay stubs and checks. O’Hara is inside the 12th District.

Scott Caulfield, Critz’s lawyer, questioned whether the campaign worker sleeps at her parents’ house on most nights, as opposed to an apartment she shares in Pittsburgh, which is outside the district.

The law requires candidates for the House to submit the signatures of 1,000 registered party voters to get on the primary ballot. The Altmire campaign presented 1,651 signatures, but Critz successfully challenged hundreds of them as invalid.

The primary is April 24.

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58 Responses to “Dems eat their own too…and Open Thread”
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  1. RIX
    1 | March 3, 2012 12:31 pm

    Maybe the Dems are having a cleansing.
    After a lot of the Blue Dogs lost to R’s
    in 2010, some key Dems thought that it was
    not all bad.
    This is the furthest to the Left that the Dem
    Party has ever been.
    Yet the MSM is serving that the” Dems are moderates”
    Kool Aid.


  2. coldwarrior
    2 | March 3, 2012 12:37 pm

    @ RIX:

    altmire should walk and joing the gop. he votes with them all the time. hell, he is more conservative than a good percentage of gop congressmen.

    i guess this sis it for the blue dogs and patriotic, love-america dems. now the party can be all socialist all the time


  3. RIX
    3 | March 3, 2012 12:46 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    It does sound like he would be more at home in
    the GOP.
    The Dem Party has morphed into something my father
    and uncles would not recognise.
    It seems like battle lines are being drawn & the Dem
    Party considers bi-partisanship just agreement with
    them.


  4. Alberta Oil Peon
    4 | March 3, 2012 12:50 pm

    Why the Hell should it matter who circulates the petition? From where I sit, it shouldn’t matter if the petition was circulated by a lesbian Eskimo from Barrow, Alaska, as long as the signatories all reside in the district.

    And what is being done about that A-hole muzzie judge?


  5. coldwarrior
    5 | March 3, 2012 12:55 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    It does sound like he would be more at home in
    the GOP.
    The Dem Party has morphed into something my father
    and uncles would not recognise.
    It seems like battle lines are being drawn & the Dem
    Party considers bi-partisanship just agreement with
    them.

    the ghost of truman is not amused.


  6. coldwarrior
    6 | March 3, 2012 12:55 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    And what is being done about that A-hole muzzie judge?

    dunno, he is out in phillie…east coast i-95 corridor, really inst part of PA.


  7. 7 | March 3, 2012 1:01 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    Why the Hell should it matter who circulates the petition? From where I sit, it shouldn’t matter if the petition was circulated by a lesbian Eskimo from Barrow, Alaska, as long as the signatories all reside in the district.

    Bingo.


  8. RIX
    8 | March 3, 2012 1:16 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    the ghost of truman is not amused.

    Isn’t that the truth. Harry would not be welcome
    in the modern Dem Party & I doubt that he would
    want to be.


  9. coldwarrior
    9 | March 3, 2012 1:20 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    the ghost of truman is not amused.
    Isn’t that the truth. Harry would not be welcome
    in the modern Dem Party & I doubt that he would
    want to be.

    the dems are commies and socialists and aged hippies now, kumbya!


  10. RIX
    10 | March 3, 2012 1:40 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    the dems are commies and socialists and aged hippies now, kumbya!

    That’s really allm that they are now.


  11. 11 | March 3, 2012 1:48 pm

    RUSSIAN BASEBALL!


  12. 12 | March 3, 2012 1:58 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    And what is being done about that A-hole muzzie judge?

    Nothing. He probably already got his robo-phone call from Obamma congratulating him.


  13. 13 | March 3, 2012 2:01 pm

    Hey, check it out, I think I am really rubbing off on my darling sweetheart. He took these pics this morning and sent them to me. I just love it when he does that.. Just when I was thinking he doesn’t care..


  14. eaglesoars
    14 | March 3, 2012 2:05 pm

    CW I don’t know if you caught it, but a few weeks ago I posted about a luncheon Hubby the Lobbyist was invited to (by Tim Holden a PA congressman -- 17th district I think)

    The Blue Dogs are VERY unhappy. They hate Pelosi and her crew, they hate the radicalism that has come to define the party. They have these get-togethers w/invited speakers to do research outside the traditional party boundaries.

    The MSM can gloat all it wants about the fractures in the Republican party, but I think it is much more unified philosophically, than the Dems.


  15. eaglesoars
    15 | March 3, 2012 2:09 pm

    @ Urban Infidel:

    HA! Ken Kesey and Mountain Woman they’re not!

    kiss you’re sweetie……..


  16. 16 | March 3, 2012 2:10 pm

    197 years ago today in American History -- War declared against Algiers, year 1815. Commodore Stephen Decatur was sent in command of a squadron of ten warships to attack the Algerian naval force in the Mediterranean.


  17. 17 | March 3, 2012 2:11 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    It ain’t the Partridge Family either! lol!


  18. spinmore
    18 | March 3, 2012 2:11 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    “dunno, he is out in phillie…east coast i-95 corridor, really inst part of PA.”

    C.W. -- Muzz ‘judge’ from Mechanicsburgh, PA?
    He’s closer to you then to Philly -- don’t push him off on Philly!

    ///


  19. Dolphin
    19 | March 3, 2012 2:17 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    I lived about two miles from the Kesey’s growing up. Sunshine Kesey was a grade behind me and Ken Babbs daughter (Casa) was one of my best friends in high school. The infamous bus was still around in the mid 80′s.


  20. eaglesoars
    20 | March 3, 2012 2:19 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    kiss you’re sweetie……..

    you’re?? YOU’RE??

    gee-zus.


  21. coldwarrior
    21 | March 3, 2012 2:19 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    The Blue Dogs are VERY unhappy. They hate Pelosi and her crew, they hate the radicalism that has come to define the party.

    then they need to take it back


  22. coldwarrior
    22 | March 3, 2012 2:21 pm

    spinmore wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    “dunno, he is out in phillie…east coast i-95 corridor, really inst part of PA.”
    C.W. – Muzz ‘judge’ from Mechanicsburgh, PA?
    He’s closer to you then to Philly – don’t push him off on Philly!
    ///

    the report in the papers had him working out of phillie area…my bad i guess.

    and mechaniscsburg is still much closer to phillie than to me.


  23. 23 | March 3, 2012 2:22 pm

    5 years ago today:

    There was something stirring across the country because of what was happening in Selma Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So [my parents] got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.”--Obama in Selma, Alabama speech, claiming historic Selma march somehow brought about his conception, March 4, 2007.

    EXCEPT THAT Obama was 3, and his parents already split up, by the time of the Selma march.


  24. spinmore
    24 | March 3, 2012 2:23 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    . . . that’s ok -- just seeing alot of ‘Philly bashing’ here lately :)

    We can take it though . . . you know brotherly love and all that

    Go Eagles!


  25. coldwarrior
    25 | March 3, 2012 2:24 pm

    spinmore wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    . . . that’s ok – just seeing alot of ‘Philly bashing’ here lately
    We can take it though . . . you know brotherly love and all that
    Go Eagles!

    i have to beat on phillie. its my job.

    go pens!


  26. spinmore
    26 | March 3, 2012 2:26 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Left of Harrisburgh is all yours


  27. eaglesoars
    27 | March 3, 2012 2:27 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    EXCEPT THAT Obama was 3, and his parents already split up, by the time of the Selma march.

    Another Bill Ayers fuck up.


  28. coldwarrior
    28 | March 3, 2012 2:30 pm

    spinmore wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Left of Harrisburgh is all yours

    no. its not. :lol: no one claims h’burg, except the debt collector and the bankruptcy judge.

    fyi i also have hit pgh pretty hard here to for the 90plus years of democrat rule and the destruction that has caused in allegheny county…and we have hit detroit, dc, nyc, sf, cleveland, cinci, new jersey as well.

    have i left anyone out?


  29. eaglesoars
    29 | March 3, 2012 2:33 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    have i left anyone out?

    Keep your eye on Montgomery County, MD


  30. coldwarrior
    30 | March 3, 2012 2:36 pm

    spinmore wrote:

    . . . that’s ok – just seeing alot of ‘Philly bashing’ here lately :)

    and furthermore, i have praised mayor rizzo and ed rendel…both phillie guys. so there!

    pbbbbbbttttt!!!!

    :lol:


  31. coldwarrior
    31 | March 3, 2012 2:38 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    have i left anyone out?
    Keep your eye on Montgomery County, MD

    why? does it do tricks? (sorry, reflex reaction to that phrase…)

    off to the store!

    bbl.

    cant make pulled pork without bbq sauce, and i cant make better bbq sauce than sweet baby ray’s.


  32. spinmore
    32 | March 3, 2012 2:39 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    . . . i have always passed thru the PGH area at night on road trips either coming or going. Just a hand full of times over the years with the kids. Now that there’s one of three left in the nest -- not so many road trips (not to mention gas $)

    Next pass-by me and the Mrs. will coordinate to meet for a beer somewhere :)


  33. spinmore
    33 | March 3, 2012 2:42 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Believe it or not -- Nutter is about the best we can hope for here in Philly (he’s a pretty good egg for a (D) )


  34. coldwarrior
    34 | March 3, 2012 2:42 pm

    spinmore wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    . . . i have always passed thru the PGH area at night on road trips either coming or going. Just a hand full of times over the years with the kids. Now that there’s one of three left in the nest – not so many road trips (not to mention gas $)
    Next pass-by me and the Mrs. will coordinate to meet for a beer somewhere

    i’m all for that…we may be going to NJ this spring depending on gas prices…will keep yinz posted!


  35. coldwarrior
    35 | March 3, 2012 2:42 pm

    bbl….store run!


  36. spinmore
    36 | March 3, 2012 2:54 pm

    nite-nite from the 3rd shifter

    (give me strength)


  37. eaglesoars
    37 | March 3, 2012 3:07 pm

    Something is tickling my feeble mind.

    Do you remember the almost-under-the-radar reports that the Obama admin had decided to write off the white, blue collar demographic (don’t ask me how the unions fit into this construct -- I don’t know).

    Then here comes Breitbart saying he has video showing that racial division is at the core of Obama.

    Here we see John Heilemann, characterizing the Republican party, as becoming progressively WHITER, BLUE COLLAR, POPULIST, UNEDUCATED (read ‘stupid).

    Heilemann Falsely Claims GOP Becoming ‘Whiter,’ ‘More Blue Collar’ and ‘Less Well-Educated’

    Anybody besides me see a pattern here?

    I speak as the woman who warned that these people would try to fracture the relationship of parent and child via school lunch programs.

    I was right then, and I suspect I’m right now.


  38. RIX
    38 | March 3, 2012 3:25 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    No surprise that they think this way.
    Jouralists are often pseudo intellectuals that went
    to J School becuse they were weak in math skills.
    Many just seem to pronounce themselves part of the
    intellegencia and scoff at the common people.
    Check that, they scoff at the “White” common common.


  39. eaglesoars
    39 | March 3, 2012 3:34 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Check that, they scoff at the “White” common common.

    Politically and socially, there has always been a way to define ‘the other’.

    I think I’m watching a re-defining of ‘other’. White, populist, blue collar and stupid.

    Joe the Plumber (who is not stupid) writ large.

    there’s another dynamic that Taranto defined for me. Oikophobia.

    Why the liberal elite finds America revolting.

    I’m not sure if the operative word is ‘liberal’ or ‘elite’


  40. RIX
    40 | March 3, 2012 3:36 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    I think that we of the unwshed masses just ofend
    elitists.
    They suspect that we might frequent Walmart.


  41. RIX
    41 | March 3, 2012 3:40 pm

    Irrational anger is a staple food of the Republican Party. Just look at what’s going on in this election: the Republican candidates are all spouting crazy, utterly false talking points that come straight from the deranged base and from Limbaugh. Obama’s “apology tour,” Obama’s “vote in favor of infanticide,” the list goes on and on

    This is spewing out of the Culver City landfill right
    now.
    I hope that the DoD picks this up. CJ may not like it,
    but his man crush hero did indeed vote for infanticide.
    It doesn’t matter how musch he whines & tries to redfine
    it, it is infanticide.


  42. eaglesoars
    42 | March 3, 2012 3:47 pm

    RIX wrote:

    They suspect that we might frequent Walmart.

    Ace’s takedown of Frum over Frum’s surly Breitbart obit (it’s one for the ages -- Christopher Hitchens is pitching a fit that he didn’t write it) was a revelation of sorts for me.

    Balls. Andrew had them by the bucket-full. Most conservative men do. Most conservative women have more balls than most liberal men.
    There’s a liberal FEAR of conservatism because of its confidence.

    Anyway, I’m just thinking out loud.


  43. eaglesoars
    43 | March 3, 2012 3:50 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Irrational anger is a staple food of the Republican Party.

    White
    Blue Collar
    Populist
    Uneducated

    and now we’ll add angry -- as in unpredictably violent.

    got it.


  44. RIX
    44 | March 3, 2012 3:50 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Balls. Andrew had them by the bucket-full. Most conservative men do. Most conservative women have more balls than most liberal men.
    There’s a liberal FEAR of conservatism because of its confidence.

    Anyway, I’m just thinking out loud

    And you are thinking correctly.


  45. RIX
    45 | March 3, 2012 3:57 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    White
    Blue Collar
    Populist
    Uneducated

    and now we’ll add angry – as in unpredictably violent.

    got it.

    It is ironic that Charlie tosses out this kind of
    insult.
    He never took a big helping of intellect. He saved
    plenty of room for Cheetos & deep fried Twinkies.


  46. coldwarrior
    46 | March 3, 2012 3:57 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    White
    Blue Collar
    Populist
    Uneducated

    and now we’ll add angry – as in unpredictably violent.

    got it.

    add bitter clingers


  47. eaglesoars
    47 | March 3, 2012 4:00 pm

    Rix do you have a link for your #41?


  48. eaglesoars
    48 | March 3, 2012 4:02 pm

    RIX wrote:

    & deep fried Twinkies.

    Line. Crossed.

    I will NOT tolerate any insult to Twinkies, deep fried or otherwise.


  49. eaglesoars
    49 | March 3, 2012 4:03 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    add bitter clingers

    You left out important components.

    Religion and guns.


  50. eaglesoars
    50 | March 3, 2012 4:04 pm

    gotta put food on the table. bbl


  51. coldwarrior
    51 | March 3, 2012 4:05 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    add bitter clingers
    You left out important components.
    Religion and guns.

    we need religion and guns to cling to ’cause we is stoopit and dont trust the fedgov!


  52. The Osprey
    52 | March 3, 2012 4:05 pm

    Chucky’s latest insanity: first it was Glenn Beck and the frog, now it’s Herman Cain
    and a goldfish.


  53. coldwarrior
    53 | March 3, 2012 4:06 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    gotta put food on the table. bbl

    new kitteh thread as well.


  54. Da_Beerfreak
    54 | March 3, 2012 4:06 pm

    Polarizing.

    Something the Liberal Socialists would never do… :roll:


  55. RIX
    55 | March 3, 2012 4:07 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Rix do you have a link for your #41?

    No sorry,but is the current post at LGF right now.
    CJ is on a real disurbing rant.


  56. RIX
    56 | March 3, 2012 4:10 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Line. Crossed.

    I will NOT tolerate any insult to Twinkies, deep fried or otherwise.

    One of the major food groups & goes great with a
    beer for breakfast.


  57. The Osprey
    57 | March 3, 2012 4:15 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    add bitter clingers
    You left out important components.
    Religion and guns.

    we need religion and guns to cling to ’cause we is stoopit and dont trust the fedgov!

    The Gospel According To Saint John Moses Browning


  58. 58 | March 3, 2012 4:39 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    eaglesoars wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    add bitter clingers
    You left out important components.
    Religion and guns.
    we need religion and guns to cling to ’cause we is stoopit and dont trust the fedgov!

    The Gospel According To Saint John Moses Browning

    And The Osprey doth preach the True Gospel!!! :)


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