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New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton suspended for the entire 2012 season

by Bob in Breckenridge ( 64 Comments › )
Filed under Breaking News, Headlines, NFL, Sports at March 21st, 2012 - 1:16 pm

Wow, this is shocking!

Payton suspended one year, Williams indefinitely, Saints fined $500K

The NFL absolutely dropped the proverbial hammer on the Saints for “Bountygate” Wednesday, as CBSSports.com’s Mike Freeman reports Sean Payton’s is suspended for the entire 2012 season without pay, Saints general manager Mickey Loomis is suspended for eight games, the Saints are fined $500,000 and former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is suspended indefinitely.

In addition, the Saints will lose a second-round pick in both 2012 and 2013. In addition, Jay Glazer of FoxSports.com reports that Joe Vitt, linebackers coach and assistant head coach, will be suspended as well. Vitt would’ve been a candidate to take over as head coach for Payton, but now it’s likely offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael.

The NFL has since announced the news, and it is an absolute stunner — as severely as everyone expected Goodell and the league to punish, this goes far beyond what anyone could have expected.

“We are all accountable and responsible for player health and safety and the integrity of the game,” Commissioner Goodell said in a statement released by the league. “We will not tolerate conduct or a culture that undermines those priorities. No one is above the game or the rules that govern it. Respect for the game and the people who participate in it will not be compromised.”

“A combination of elements made this matter particularly unusual and egregious,” Commissioner Goodell continued. “When there is targeting of players for injury and cash rewards over a three-year period, the involvement of the coaching staff, and three years of denials and willful disrespect of the rules, a strong and lasting message must be sent that such conduct is totally unacceptable and has no place in the game.”

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64 Responses to “New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton suspended for the entire 2012 season”
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  1. Speranza
    1 | March 21, 2012 1:18 pm

    Damn I was about to post that. That is a bit harsh, a massive fine and suspension for a couple of games would have been right.


  2. Lily
    2 | March 21, 2012 1:58 pm

    What the hell!!!!!!!!! This is insane!!!!!
    They are trying to destroy the Saints. What the hell?
    They have been gunning for the Saints since they won the Super Bowl.
    I am LIVID!!! Are they going to do this to the other teams that do this????????????? As soon as the Saints, finally, finally make their team one of the top few they do this. I want other head coaches heads to roll if this has been being investigated through-out the league.
    Bet they just focused on the damn Saints. Unfair you betcha! I cannot express what I really feel like right now.
    /damn b*tches. They want to make sure the Saints never, ever reach the Super Bowl again.


  3. Lily
    3 | March 21, 2012 2:02 pm

    What about when it happened with Williams and the Redskins staff are they going to do something there? Nope…just to the Saints. This chaps me so bad!
    Wait til CG hears about this.
    This is on Williams head and since he is no longer with the Saints well got to teach the Saints a lesson.


  4. Bumr50
    4 | March 21, 2012 2:26 pm

    Belichick got off scott-free for Spygate.

    The integrity of the game is more important than any team or player, and if you’re emphasizing player safety like you SAY you are, punishment must be swift, severe, and above all consistent.

    I’d say 1/2 season would have been more appropriate.

    Fines are a joke with salaries what they are. Suspensions definitely get the message across.


  5. Lily
    5 | March 21, 2012 2:32 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    And rape is just a four game suspension. This is a joke.
    I’m not saying some punishment shouldn’t have been handed down but this is insane.


  6. Bumr50
    6 | March 21, 2012 2:34 pm

    @ Lily:

    The Patriots just signed Donte Stallworth.

    He ran over and killed a guy while drunk.


  7. Lily
    7 | March 21, 2012 2:39 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    They have been gunning for the Saints since they won the Super Bowl.
    Hence the reason the OT rules were changed because the Saints won in OT in the play-offs during their run to the Super Bowl. This makes me sick.
    Don’t tell me this hasn’t been going on with other teams…where is the investigations with that? They just went for the Saints.
    Other teams head coaches should roll too if they are in anyway dealing with this as a fair investigation. Not. Going. To. Happen.


  8. darkwords
    8 | March 21, 2012 3:27 pm

    The punishment seems too light to me. any of the guilty with a superbowl ring should have the ring recalled. No one is really going to care if the punishment doesn’t affect them personally. Who cares if coach pays a fine and is suspended.


  9. darkwords
    9 | March 21, 2012 3:29 pm

    @ Bumr50: I’d say if you do the crime you pay the time. After that it is ok to get your job back in most instances.


  10. Lily
    10 | March 21, 2012 3:37 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    The punishment seems too light to me. any of the guilty with a superbowl ring should have the ring recalled. No one is really going to care if the punishment doesn’t affect them personally. Who cares if coach pays a fine and is suspended.

    Really? Fine I want to see other head coaches who have done this be suspended for a damn year. Take away their Super Bowl ring? Whatever.
    You think this goes on with just one team you are insane.


  11. Bumr50
    11 | March 21, 2012 3:44 pm

    @ darkwords:

    He did no time.

    If that was me, I’d be in a State Prison for a minimum of five years. Not my sentence, I’d serve at least that.

    It’s not even all about money. It’s about a different standard.


  12. Lily
    12 | March 21, 2012 3:50 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ Bumr50: I’d say if you do the crime you pay the time. After that it is ok to get your job back in most instances.

    Just like Michael Vick? Well that isn’t working out too well.


  13. huckfunn
    13 | March 21, 2012 5:10 pm

    Paying a player to deliberately take an opposing player out of the game is the most despicable example of bad sportsmanship that I can think of. **spit** If such a bounty hit had ended a player’s season or career, a lifetime ban for whomever ordered and paid for the hit wouldn’t be enough. I’m really sorry that this happened to the Saints as I’ve been in their corner as they worked their way up from NFL doormat to champs. Heck, Drew Brees was the QB at Westlake High up in Austin and my associate’s twin sons were his favorite receivers. A real shame, but they’ll get no sympathy from me.


  14. Lily
    14 | March 21, 2012 5:14 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Sympathy? No. But fairness. Sorry other coaches have done this and this should investigated clear across the board.


  15. huckfunn
    15 | March 21, 2012 5:22 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Sympathy? No. But fairness. Sorry other coaches have done this and this should investigated clear across the board.

    It’s too bad it had to happen to the Saints, but the NFL has really put the marker down on that kind of crap. Payton really pooted in his dinner plate when he tried to cover it up. Aikman’s career was cut short by 4 or 5 years for exactly the same thing; 10 concussions and he was done and there’s no doubt whatsoever that he was a bounty target.


  16. Calo
    16 | March 21, 2012 5:28 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Bring Brees back to the Texans. :mrgreen:


  17. huckfunn
    17 | March 21, 2012 5:31 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Bring Brees back to the Texans.

    We’d actually rather have him in Dallas. :wink:


  18. Calo
    18 | March 21, 2012 5:33 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Either team will send Lily over the edge. :lol:


  19. Lily
    19 | March 21, 2012 5:34 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Bring Brees back to the Texans.

    {Calo} you are killing me here.


  20. Lily
    20 | March 21, 2012 5:35 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Either team will send Lily over the edge.

    Why are you doing this to me!!!!!!!! ;)
    /yes it will send me over the edge!


  21. Lily
    21 | March 21, 2012 5:39 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Sympathy? No. But fairness. Sorry other coaches have done this and this should investigated clear across the board.

    It’s too bad it had to happen to the Saints, but the NFL has really put the marker down on that kind of crap. Payton really pooted in his dinner plate when he tried to cover it up. Aikman’s career was cut short by 4 or 5 years for exactly the same thing; 10 concussions and he was done and there’s no doubt whatsoever that he was a bounty target.

    I’m not saying that the team shouldn’t be punished. This happens all over the league. Let’s be fair in this.


  22. Lily
    22 | March 21, 2012 5:42 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Sympathy? No. But fairness. Sorry other coaches have done this and this should investigated clear across the board.

    It’s too bad it had to happen to the Saints, but the NFL has really put the marker down on that kind of crap. Payton really pooted in his dinner plate when he tried to cover it up. Aikman’s career was cut short by 4 or 5 years for exactly the same thing; 10 concussions and he was done and there’s no doubt whatsoever that he was a bounty target.

    By who the Saints? Are the Saints responsible for every injury out there?


  23. huckfunn
    23 | March 21, 2012 5:49 pm

    Lily wrote:

    By who the Saints? Are the Saints responsible for every injury out there?

    The Saints are one of my top 3 favorite teams, in fact I’ll root for them against anybody but the Cowboys and Texans. I’m not down on the Saints or out to get them. If the Cowboys or Texans got caught up in the same thing, let the hammer drop on them, or anyone else. Just because others got away with a light slap doesn’t mean what the Saints got isn’t fair. I think that “hitman” type stuff is not far short of criminal, particularly if someone is permanently injured as a result. And then Payton was stupid enough to try and cover it up.


  24. huckfunn
    24 | March 21, 2012 5:51 pm

    I’m gonna mix up a toddy and watch the news.

    bbl


  25. Lily
    25 | March 21, 2012 5:58 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Not disagreeing with you. But this is more than crushing to Saints fans. If the NFL is going to lower the hammer on this there are other coaches just as guilty. That is my only point.
    On the sports boards it’s an all out hate fest on the Saints.
    Take their super bowl ring away!
    Fire Sean Payton!
    The whole nine yards.


  26. Tanker
    26 | March 21, 2012 7:01 pm

    Make no mistake about this fact. The league has only dealt with the Coaches/head office people so far.

    Wait until the player suspensions are handed down. The Saints are dead this year and probably next. Might not be fair as Lily states, but it ain’t over yet!


  27. Lily
    27 | March 21, 2012 7:28 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Make no mistake about this fact. The league has only dealt with the Coaches/head office people so far.

    Wait until the player suspensions are handed down. The Saints are dead this year and probably next. Might not be fair as Lily states, but it ain’t over yet!

    Yeah I know. This isn’t over yet which is why I am complaining they are destroying the team completely. I understand that some punishment is to handed down but what they are doing is completely destroying the team itself. Witch hunt. What about the other teams that do this?
    Or are they just going to make an example with the Saints. The team is done.


  28. Bumr50
    28 | March 21, 2012 7:32 pm

    Steelers president lauds Goodell’s handling of bounties

    Steelers president Art Rooney II applauded NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, who dropped the hammer on the New Orleans Saints today for engaging in and promoting the practice of bounties.

    “I think the commissioner is sending a very loud and clear message here,” Rooney told the Steelers’ website today. “Hopefully, the effect is going to be that we will get these kinds of things out of the game. We don’t need this in our game.”

    ======================================================

    Goodell took steps beyond punishing the Saints in his quest to rid the NFL of bounties.

    Every team was informed today that their owner and head coach have to meet, with the former informing the latter that bounties are illegal and that if any such operations are in place they must be stopped immediately.

    All owners and head coaches have to submit to Goodell, in writing, a pledge that such a meeting occured before March 30.


  29. Lily
    29 | March 21, 2012 7:38 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    Really? The Steelers never, ever did anything of the sort?

    So I am right, Goodell isn’t going after the other teams that did this sort of thing. About right.


  30. Bumr50
    30 | March 21, 2012 7:45 pm

    @ Lily:

    I understand your frustration, but couldn’t complain if the Steelers did it last season, got caught, and suffered the same fate.

    THIS killed them:

    According to the league, Payton ignored instructions from the NFL and Saints ownership to make sure bounties weren’t being paid. The league also chastised him for choosing to “falsely deny that the program existed,” and for trying to “encourage the false denials by instructing assistants to `make sure our ducks are in a row.”


  31. Tanker
    31 | March 21, 2012 7:58 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    The cover-up always is worse than the crime. Seems he had a chance to be done with this, but took the wrong course of action..


  32. Lily
    32 | March 21, 2012 7:59 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    Yep that is bad. Good grief. I don’t know why Payton did this.
    All I know is the Saints are crushed. This isn’t over yet. There is more doomage to come. Back to bags over our heads. Don’t even know if I’ll watch football in the fall.
    I just don’t like all the grave-dancing over this.


  33. Lily
    33 | March 21, 2012 8:06 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    One difference is the Steelers have had great football teams, not the Saints. This is what makes it even harder to bear. We were always the bottom-dwellers, always. We sucked! Then this happens.

    I am by no means defending what Payton did. But the complete and total crushing of the team is heavy-handed. Naturally the Saints will be the poster boy for the bounty system and to avoid. This is what the Saints will be remembered for. What a way to go down in the NFL’s history.


  34. coldwarrior
    34 | March 21, 2012 8:28 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    Really? The Steelers never, ever did anything of the sort?
    So I am right, Goodell isn’t going after the other teams that did this sort of thing. About right.

    no, we have rules made against us

    google ‘mel blount rule’ and ‘hines ward rule’.


  35. Lily
    35 | March 21, 2012 8:37 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    Really? The Steelers never, ever did anything of the sort?
    So I am right, Goodell isn’t going after the other teams that did this sort of thing. About right.

    no, we have rules made against us

    google ‘mel blount rule’ and ‘hines ward rule’.

    Yeah I know. This is just crushing to me. Because they are actually crushing the Saints. They aren’t finished with them yet at all.


  36. Lily
    36 | March 21, 2012 8:41 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Those two rules…because the NFL doesn’t like a team to dominate for too long.
    So if you are a great player and you do well you get punished.

    The NFL might as well go to Powder-puff flag football seems to be headed that way.


  37. coldwarrior
    37 | March 21, 2012 8:45 pm

    @ Lily:

    league is getting sued for not watching out for safety of the players.

    the league has to protect their workers and immediately stomp on and eradicate any and all ghetto-thug crap if they want to protect the brand. this isnt the nba.


  38. Lily
    38 | March 21, 2012 8:45 pm

    I seem to be the only one here that thinks this is way over-handed in punishing the Saints. Do I think the Saints need to be punished for this of course. But to destroy the team completely to make an example seems over-handed.

    What next? Are they going to take away their Super Bowl rings? I will not doubt this at all. Coming soon.


  39. Lily
    39 | March 21, 2012 8:48 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Yep. I saw that law-suit. So they are going to hold up the Saints and what they are doing to them to show they are all about safety.


  40. coldwarrior
    40 | March 21, 2012 8:49 pm

    @ Lily:

    i am surprised the league didn’t press criminal charges. i would have. there would be few coaches doing time for this.


  41. Lily
    41 | March 21, 2012 8:51 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    CW that very well may come to pass the pressing of charges.


  42. coldwarrior
    42 | March 21, 2012 8:52 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yep. I saw that law-suit. So they are going to hold up the Saints and what they are doing to them to show they are all about safety.

    the league MUST protect the brand. this thug crap had to be punished hard.


  43. coldwarrior
    43 | March 21, 2012 8:53 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    CW that very well may come to pass the pressing of charges.

    there were two ravens admitting on the radio two weeks ago that they had a bounty out on hines ward. stay tuned. this isnt over.


  44. Lily
    44 | March 21, 2012 8:54 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I do understand that. I’ll get over it in a day or two. But I am sure there are several coaches having a huge sigh of relief.


  45. Lily
    45 | March 21, 2012 8:55 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    CW that very well may come to pass the pressing of charges.

    there were two ravens admitting on the radio two weeks ago that they had a bounty out on hines ward. stay tuned. this isnt over.

    Will they crush the Ravens like they are doing to the Saints? This is what I have a problem with. This is by no means just a Saint problem out there.


  46. coldwarrior
    46 | March 21, 2012 9:02 pm

    @ Lily:

    there may be a systemic problem here that has to be addressed. if this is pervasive, many heads should role for this. this is in fact criminal AND occurring on the field under the NFL brand name.


  47. Speranza
    48 | March 21, 2012 9:26 pm

    Buddy Ryan bounty bowl.


  48. Lily
    49 | March 21, 2012 9:38 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Warren Sapp claims that Jeremy Shockey is the whistleblower.

    Why am I not surprised?


  49. Lily
    50 | March 21, 2012 9:40 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Buddy Ryan bounty bowl.

    He should be suspended for a whole year without pay and the rest of his other coaches and of course any players that were involved in this. The NFL should go across the board!


  50. Lily
    51 | March 21, 2012 9:46 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Lily:

    there may be a systemic problem here that has to be addressed. if this is pervasive, many heads should role for this. this is in fact criminal AND occurring on the field under the NFL brand name.

    I do believe it is a systemic problem and needs to be addressed. Payton and Williams didn’t invent this. This is something that is going on with a lot of teams. Those teams also should be investigated too. But will they?


  51. coldwarrior
    52 | March 21, 2012 9:50 pm

    Lily wrote:

    I do believe it is a systemic problem and needs to be addressed. Payton and Williams didn’t invent this. This is something that is going on with a lot of teams. Those teams also should be investigated too. But will they?

    i dont believe this was systemic. i do believe a few teams did it but it wasnt league wide.


  52. Lily
    53 | March 21, 2012 10:02 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I guess I am a bit disheartened here. You are probably right.
    My team just went down in flames and it appears it is not the end of it. Do I agree with what the Saints did, no. Did I expect punishment yes. Just not to this degree. Do I think other teams have done it,yes.
    Not necessarily every team in the NFL of course not.
    I just grieving CW. ;)


  53. coldwarrior
    54 | March 21, 2012 10:17 pm

    @ Lily:

    i understand.


  54. Lily
    55 | March 21, 2012 10:27 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    :)

    A shock-a-rama!


  55. 56 | March 21, 2012 10:49 pm

    Lily wrote:

    I seem to be the only one here that thinks this is way over-handed in punishing the Saints. Do I think the Saints need to be punished for this of course. But to destroy the team completely to make an example seems over-handed.

    What next? Are they going to take away their Super Bowl rings? I will not doubt this at all. Coming soon.

    No, you’re not the only one. Yes, what they did was crappy, and I’m all in favor of punitives against them. Goodell will never forgive them for ruining the Brett Favre March to Glory in 2010 and laid an insult on them by changing the O/T rules in playoffs because his precious Favre screwed up.

    I didn’t hear boo about the hits that the Saints took until this broke. And yes, Payton should be suspended for a few games -- but not the season. All Belicheat got was a fine for violating the league rules. And you can’t tell me that every defensive coordinator doesn’t say the same thing to his crew -- “get ‘em.”

    And CW -- I understand completely about the rules made up for a player, etc. Yell “Tuck Rule” at the Oakland Colisseum.

    Lily, it’s going to be a long year, and probably a shitty season. But I think we’ll come through it okay. However if it’s true about Jeremy Shockey, and I have no trouble believing it is, then he should find a way to call in sick the day the Panthers play in the Dome. He’ll need security to get off Poydras Street.


  56. 57 | March 21, 2012 10:58 pm

    I went back and read the article where Sapp outs Shockey. Now of course they’re saying “violation of labor laws! You aren’t supposed to out a whistleblower.”

    Bullshit. Shockey didn’t do this for the good of the league. He did this because he wanted to injure the Saints. He took a few cheap shots of his own on Saints defenders on the field after he was traded to the Panthers. What better way to improve your team’s chances than to utterly debilitate the team that won your division last year.


  57. 58 | March 21, 2012 11:00 pm

    And Goodell -- I await with interst the punitive measures you’ll be taking against the Redskins, who had the same system under Williams.

    And Williams -- you should never be allowed near an NFL team again.


  58. Speranza
    59 | March 22, 2012 7:35 am

    Lily wrote:

    He should be suspended for a whole year without pay and the rest of his other coaches and of course any players that were involved in this. The NFL should go across the board!

    Buddy Ryan has not coached in decades. Rex Ryan is a Jets head coach, Rob Ryan is Cowboys Defensive coordinator.


  59. The Osprey
    60 | March 22, 2012 10:55 am

    To paraphrase Hunter S. Thompson’s comment about the Kentucky Derby,
    the NFL is decadent and depraved.


  60. Lily
    61 | March 22, 2012 5:39 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    I went back and read the article where Sapp outs Shockey. Now of course they’re saying “violation of labor laws! You aren’t supposed to out a whistleblower.”

    Bullshit. Shockey didn’t do this for the good of the league. He did this because he wanted to injure the Saints. He took a few cheap shots of his own on Saints defenders on the field after he was traded to the Panthers. What better way to improve your team’s chances than to utterly debilitate the team that won your division last year.

    Damn straight Shockey did this as pay-back!
    Thanks for giving me some hope..but they sure as hell not finished with destroying the team. Nope not at all.


  61. 62 | March 22, 2012 11:02 pm

    @ Lily:

    I think the offense will be as great as they were last year -- Payton’s system is still in place and I believe we still have our offensive coordinator.

    Who knows? Maybe our backup guys (assuming we lose the lead defensive players to suspension) may prove to be great and ready for prime time. And frankly, I wouldn’t be upset if Roman Harper took his late hits to another team.

    Cheer up baby girl -- we’ve been through worse than this -- like 30 years of losing seasons.


  62. 63 | March 22, 2012 11:08 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    To paraphrase Hunter S. Thompson’s comment about the Kentucky Derby,
    the NFL is decadent and depraved.

    Is that the reason why it’s the only place in America where Socialism works?


  63. Lily
    64 | March 23, 2012 2:02 pm

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7722853/new-orleans-saints-senator-dick-durbin-sets-hearing-bounties-nfl

    Just getting worse now the Senate is getting involved. Great.


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