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The politics of racial guilt and Trayvon Martin

by Speranza ( 138 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Crime at March 27th, 2012 - 8:00 am

The Knish points the finger at the hypocrisy of Obama, Sharpton, Jackson – and all the other race hustlers who only seem to show outrage when something happens to someone who “looks like my son”.  But then again Sharpton has been rewarded by having a show on MSNBC, Jackson gets treated like royalty,  Eric Holder does not have to answer for the dead people in Mexico that can be laid at his door step, and Obama is on the verge of being reelected.

by Daniel Greenfield

When at the beginning of March, Allen Coon, a thirteen-year-old boy, was set on fireby two black teenagers who told him, “You get what you deserve, white boy,” this did not prove to be an occasion for national soul-searching. But the shooting death of Trayvon Martin by a Hispanic neighborhood watch captain after a scuffle between the two men has led to hysterical media coverage, state and federal investigations, civil rights marches, lynching threats from the Black Panthers and a statement from Obama urging Americans to search their souls for some unspecified reason.

The latter took time out from the trivial business of nominating a World Bank president to interfere in a local law enforcement matter and join his good friend Al Sharpton, who specializes in racist rhetoric, in throwing some racebaiting gasoline on the flames.

To Obama, the significance of the whole event was that Trayvon Martin looked like his hypothetical son, which presumably Allen Coon did not. The insufferable egotism of that statement suggests that shooting victims only matter if they look anything like the head cheese. It’s racial feudalism and personal politics at its ugliest even as it once again confronts us with Obama’s inability to talk about anything without shining it through the narcissistic lens of the self.

Even Trayvon Martin only matters because he is in some hypothetical sense linked to Obama, and every trending topic from Jeremy Lin to the million hoodie march must be commented on by him in some way to demonstrate his own relevance in the mobius strip of fame. There can be no 2012 election without the race card, and so Martin was posthumously drafted into the Obama family portrait that appears on campaign ads to remind the rest of the country that they still need to feel guilty and vote the left’s ticket.

[.......]

If Obama had enough time to spare in between playing golf, campaigning, wasting money and race-baiting, he might have taken a seat by the window, put his famous abbreviated chin on one skinny fist and searched his soul for all the people killed in Mexico by his own Attorney General’s plot to wreck the Second Amendment. But the soul-searching never seems to happen on the right side of the Oval Office window. It is a duty handed down to us from our betters, like schoolmarms urging us to “think about what you’ve done” until eventually you decide that you must have done something.

[.......]

The Trayvon Martin case was far from the worst shooting death this year. Or even the worst shooting death involving an African-American victim. That honor might belong to Delric Waymon Miller IV, a nine-month-old boy killed in Detroit when his house was peppered with an AK-47 assault rifle just last month. The investigation on that one is still ongoing and could presumably benefit from federal assistance, which it won’t receive because there is no political payday from highlighting black on black violence. Or from helping to solve a crime instead of stirring up racial hate.

There is a major payday in playing up white on black violence, and though George Zimmerman proved to be Hispanic with African-American relatives, the media which clings to a racial narrative like a hungry bulldog to a dead rat, is still forging ahead hoping that no one will notice.

[........]

Like the lynch mobs of old, the facts are already known. All that is needed is a fig leaf of judicial procedure to give them what they want. A lynching.

To read the media is to witness the inerrant and inescapable conviction of George Zimmerman in the press. Every article cries out that he is guilty and strongly suggests that racism is the only possible explanation why he isn’t on death row. From the White House on down, the baying hounds are determined to put him there, not based on the evidence, but on the narrative.

It’s not really about a Hispanic neighborhood watch captain, who may have been overzealous, but whose vigilance had likely saved lives and certainly prevented crimes in the past. It’s about the narrative in which we are all George Zimmerman. We are Zimmerman and he is us. We are all guilty of racism, and the only way to atone for it is with Two Minute Hates by morality mobs that find a deserving victim, drag him out and lynch him to exonerate ourselves of the charges.

The original sin of racism can never be shaken. We can only buy a temporary stay of execution by voting for Obama or indicting George Zimmerman. The consequences of the act don’t really matter, only the abnegation, the temporary easing of the burden of racial conscience with a moment of peace, a brief glow of Hope and Change that promises things will be different, only to point its finger at us again and demand that we search our souls and scourge ourselves to atone for the slave ships and plantations.

Obama knows better than most how the game is played. As a descendant of privileged Africans and American whites, he has no skin in the game; he is an outside observer of the dysfunction of Americans of both colors and an expert at manipulating their tensions for his own benefit. Having played out hope, he has fastened on guilt, a primal emotion that promises nothing, but takes everything. Much as he has done. To complete the great work, he will work the power of guilt and promise once again to lift the sin of racism from us, if we only shut down our minds, forget about our jobs and business, and blindly push the lever once more.

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138 Responses to “The politics of racial guilt and Trayvon Martin”
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  1. mawskrat
    1 | March 27, 2012 8:14 am

    the lynch mob mentality is sad.
    good thing we have due process
    in this country.

    and Good Mornin All,,make it a great day


  2. MikeA
    2 | March 27, 2012 8:18 am

    So this Martin kid is 1/4 white like Obama’s girls are? Boy, havn’t read that in the papers…. :P


  3. 3 | March 27, 2012 8:22 am

    @ mawskrat:

    Zimmerman won’t get due process if the Black Panther lynch mob gets to him. I hope he is still carrying a gun…


  4. rain of lead
    4 | March 27, 2012 8:25 am

    the Z-man should get a medal for improving the gene pool


  5. mawskrat
    5 | March 27, 2012 8:26 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    true


  6. 6 | March 27, 2012 8:29 am

    Just checking in folks. The last 24 hours at my old place was…hell, and I’ll just leave it at that.
    I left last evening, and The Osprey helped me load the trailer, along with one of our neighbors. Thanks Osprey! I spent the night in Tucson with some good friends, who treat me as if I was their younger brother.
    Today, from Tucson to Albuquerque!
    Oh, and by the way, nothing like piggybacking on an open WiFi node!


  7. 7 | March 27, 2012 8:29 am

    @ rain of lead:

    It has become clear he (Zimmerman) was assaulted, and acted in self-defense. Full stop. That is why he hasn’t been arrested, and if justice (as opposed to the mob) is served he won’t be arrested. He’ll probably have to spend the next year or so in hiding, though, from the Black Panthers.


  8. 8 | March 27, 2012 8:30 am

    @ Macker:

    Good luck, and have a safe trip!


  9. rain of lead
    9 | March 27, 2012 8:32 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    yup.

    then there is this
    (can you say media circus? I knew that you could.)

    Trayvon Martin Parents To Testify in Congress

    Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) has invited the parents of killed Florida teenager Trayvon Martin to the Hill to testify about Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law. As Roll Call reports, “The forum, which will also include other members of the Congressional Black Caucus as well as other minority Members of Congress, will look into not only Martin’s death but also racial profiling and federal hate crime laws.”


  10. 10 | March 27, 2012 8:35 am

    @ rain of lead:

    In the month or so since this has happened, how many black on black homicides have there been in America? 50? 100? I don’t know, but I do know that black on black homicide rates dwarf all other types of homicide in Americaaccounting for almost half of all total homicides in this nation (blacks are about 12% of the population). You’d think that maybe someone would look at that problem, but it has been my experience that blacks don’t want to see the problem and whites that point it out are routinely called RAAAAACIST.


  11. MikeA
    11 | March 27, 2012 8:38 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    If you keep pointing out the truth and use facts to back up your position, you’ll never get the whole “RAAAAACIST” thing…


  12. rain of lead
    12 | March 27, 2012 8:38 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    also black on white homicide is 2 to 1 over white on black


  13. mawskrat
    13 | March 27, 2012 8:43 am

    @ Macker:

    did you get a new job?


  14. Speranza
    14 | March 27, 2012 8:45 am

    MikeA wrote:

    So this Martin kid is 1/4 white like Obama’s girls are? Boy, havn’t read that in the papers….

    The NY Times refers to him as “a white Hispanic”.


  15. Speranza
    15 | March 27, 2012 8:46 am

    The Times needs to throw in a “white” angle.


  16. 16 | March 27, 2012 8:53 am

    @ Speranza:

    It is Zimmerman they are referring to as “white”. They want to stoke the racial tensions for all they are worth. That alone makes me pretty suspicious of this incident, and when the police are saying the witnesses back Zimmerman up on the fact that Martin assaulted him, my suspicions are vindicated.


  17. citizen_q
    17 | March 27, 2012 9:01 am

    I can remember no time in my lifetime where the possibility of general widespread racial violence has been so very close.

    Maybe the riots following MLK’s murder, but it appears to me that we have been carefully managed to this point for a very long time, coming to a head under the current obama / daemon-cratic administration.


  18. MikeA
    18 | March 27, 2012 9:18 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    The guy is hispanic but you can’t have minority on minority violence so… they have to make him “white” to show how bad white people are. Of course hispanics are white but don’t let that enter into it.


  19. 19 | March 27, 2012 9:18 am

    @ citizen_q:
    It sounds like they want a race war to me:

    National and local leaders from the Southern Christian Leadership Conference gathered in front of the Duval County Courthouse on Monday morning demanding swift action from State Attorney Angela Corey, whose appointment to lead the investigation into the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin they question.

    “We don’t have enough time, so we are going to determine how long we are going to wait until justice is served,” said 1960s civil rights leader Bernard LaFayette Jr., national chairman of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. “… We want justice now!”

    What are they going to do if the police decide not to prosecute based on the evidence that this is a case of self-defense and Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” self-defense law? That sounds like the decision that should be made, based on what we know. We know that Martin assaulted Zimmerman. We don’t know why, but no one is arguing that Martin was defending himself from Zimmerman, so this seems lik ea self-defense case to me. The prosecutor may decide to prosecute, though, based on the mob’s demand for blood. I doubt that Zimmerman could get a fair trial now that the President of the United States has entered the lists against him.


  20. MikeA
    20 | March 27, 2012 9:19 am

    @ citizen_q:

    As was brought up before. Time to buy more ammo. Since I live about 5 miles from a small town that is mostly black surrounded by a mostly white suburb, could get interesting.


  21. citizen_q
    21 | March 27, 2012 9:29 am

    MikeA wrote:

    It sounds like they want a race war to me

    That is the way I see it as well. They are beginning to remind me of muzzies in their bloodlust.

    @ MikeA:
    Yep, need more ammo.

    The schumers of the world want citizens defenseless against the mobs.


  22. 22 | March 27, 2012 9:38 am

    I’d like to know when the media is going to post pictures of Martin as he was -- 17 years old, instead of 12, with his baggy pants and dental grill. Also, from Weasel Zippers, it turns out his suspension from school also noted he was in possession of stolen jewelry and burglary tools.

    My, my, my…..as we say in the South.


  23. MikeA
    23 | March 27, 2012 9:39 am

    @ citizen_q:

    Totally agreed. An unarmed populace is much easier to get to conform.

    Of course, I never need an excuse to buy more ammo. Have to get some more .22 LR and some 5.56.. oh and some more 7.62 x 51…


  24. 24 | March 27, 2012 9:39 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    This is really pissing many Hispanics off at Blacks. AT we work, we joke around and call each other Latino Crackers!


  25. MikeA
    25 | March 27, 2012 9:40 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Ya know… you and Iron Fist are confusing this with facts. It was a rAAAAAcist incident and that is all that matters damn it!!!!!!


  26. 26 | March 27, 2012 9:40 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    I read his tweets. I can tell you he was not an angel. No one deserves to die, but my gut instinct is telling me he started the fight.


  27. 27 | March 27, 2012 9:42 am

    @ Speranza:

    White Hispanics exist now! I’m glad we are finally acknowledge. I thought my birth certificate was crazy saying I was Caucasian. After all, I was taught I am a poor brown oppressed indigenous 3rd Worlder!


  28. 28 | March 27, 2012 9:43 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I heard rumors he fled to Peru.


  29. MikeA
    29 | March 27, 2012 9:43 am

    @ Rodan:

    Makes you wonder how this would have played out if the guys last name was Martinez. Zimmerman is german but doesn’t “sound” spanish so they can make it sound “white”.


  30. MikeA
    30 | March 27, 2012 9:44 am

    @ Rodan:

    he is a member of Shining Path!!!! Yeah… now thats a spin we need.


  31. 31 | March 27, 2012 9:45 am

    @ Rodan:

    Divide and conquer. I think Obama sees this as a way to stoke his base, and get the focus off of gas prices and the economy. I think he figures he’ll get the majority of the hispanic vote anyway, and this will be a nice, fresh wound to pour salt in to get the black voter turnout up. It is dispicable, but entirely consistent with what we have come to expect from Obama and the Democrats.


  32. 32 | March 27, 2012 9:47 am

    @ MikeA:

    I think it would have played out the same. The media would demonize White Hispanics as descendants of the Conquistadors who rape looted and pillage the Indigenous people. They would have noted that Light Skinned Hispanics are accepted as White, so we have White Privilege.

    They were looking for an incident. If it was an Asian, they would have played it up as well.


  33. 33 | March 27, 2012 9:51 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    If the Republicans play their cards right, this could be an opening for them with Hispanics. They can point to the Democrats and tell them that they are the bottom of the Leftist pecking order. But no, the GOP wants nothing to do with the Hispanic vote so they will not take advantage of this.

    Many Hispanics I talk too are angry. Once again, we are the evil bad guys. We are America’s bogey man.

    It’s just very revealing that after being told by the Media I am not White, that now I am white. It’s really a sick mind game.


  34. MikeA
    34 | March 27, 2012 9:53 am

    @ Rodan:

    Uh… you;re not white…

    you’re… RODAN!!!!!


  35. 35 | March 27, 2012 9:57 am

    Rodan wrote:

    It’s really a sick mind game.

    Racial politics are the nastiest of nasty politics. The Democrats have always been masters of it. The Republicans less so, partly because they play the game less (not entirely free of it, but less of it). Right now I think the Republicans should stay out of this fray, though. It has all the makings of a major debacle for the Left. No matter what happens, this should hurt the Left’s coalition between blacks and hispanics. As you point out, it shows where the Left’s favoritism lies. And when you practice divide and conquer politics, you are eventually going to put your disparate factions directly against one another. I say we stay out of it until it boils over, and then attack all along the line. Politics is War. Never interfere with your enemy when he is in the position of destroying himself.


  36. citizen_q
    36 | March 27, 2012 9:57 am

    @ Carolina Girl:
    @ Rodan:
    Yeah not quite the innicent cherub we have been led to believe has. Not the mention he was in a gated community that has been suffering through a string of robberies.

    Gee, I wonder if obama still thinks that is what his own son would have looked like? What am I thinking? obama was a druggie himself, so I guess yes.


  37. 37 | March 27, 2012 9:59 am

    Rodan wrote:

    No one deserves to die,

    Sorry, I disagree. There are people who deserve to die. And way up at the top of the list of people who deserve to die, are those for whom the use of violence to terrorize those around them, to deprive their neighbors of their peace, security or property or to coerce others to behave in or consent to certain types of behavior.

    All indications are that Trevyon Martin was exactly that sort of individual. Trevyon Martin, as we are slowly coming to learn was exactly the kind of person that Florida wrote it’s “Stand your Ground” laws to protect it’s citizens from.


  38. mawskrat
    38 | March 27, 2012 10:01 am

    P**** A** CRACKER: Shocking Trayvon t-shirt bearing rapper’s crude lyrics go on sale

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120812/Shocking-Trayvon-Martin-t-shirt-bearing-rappers-crude-lyrics-sale.html#ixzz1qKFdQiDz

    any one got an Idea what that means


  39. MikeA
    39 | March 27, 2012 10:04 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Friend who is a cop said the same thing when he went to his first crime scene. Some people just need killing. Its not nice but is often true.


  40. 40 | March 27, 2012 10:05 am

    mawskrat wrote:

    P**** A** CRACKER: Shocking Trayvon t-shirt bearing rapper’s crude lyrics go on sale
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120812/Shocking-Trayvon-Martin-t-shirt-bearing-rappers-crude-lyrics-sale.html#ixzz1qKFdQiDz
    any one got an Idea what that means

    I means Zimmerman was suppose to take his potentially life threatening beating at the hands of Trevyon Martin and and be glad for it, rather than defend his life up to and including using deadly force to do so.


  41. Speranza
    41 | March 27, 2012 10:05 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    I’d like to know when the media is going to post pictures of Martin as he was – 17 years old, instead of 12, with his baggy pants and dental grill. Also, from Weasel Zippers, it turns out his suspension from school also noted he was in possession of stolen jewelry and burglary tools.
    My, my, my…..as we say in the South.

    One of the guys that Bernard Goetz (named Darrell Cabey) shot in 1984 was always showed as a 12 year old with a graduation cap on his head.


  42. Speranza
    42 | March 27, 2012 10:09 am

    By the way the Knish should be read every day. I don’t always agree with him (he is too much the social con) but he writes beautifully.


  43. 43 | March 27, 2012 10:10 am

    @ MikeA:

    :lol:

    This whole incident stinks.


  44. 44 | March 27, 2012 10:11 am

    @ doriangrey:

    I was just making a point. If Trayvon brought them on himself so be it. I was just being philosophical.


  45. Speranza
    45 | March 27, 2012 10:12 am

    @ Rodan:
    The reverse racism of the media and the Democratic Party is appalling.


  46. Speranza
    46 | March 27, 2012 10:15 am

    MikeA wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Friend who is a cop said the same thing when he went to his first crime scene. Some people just need killing. Its not nice but is often true.

    One day I’ll tell you the story about a friend of mine, a corrections officer who once mugged a knife wielding mugger.


  47. 47 | March 27, 2012 10:16 am

    @ citizen_q:

    Obama fueled the fire on this. Instead of telling people to clam down, he threw his support for Al Sharpton.


  48. Speranza
    48 | March 27, 2012 10:17 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    Obama fueled the fire on this. Instead of telling people to clam down, he threw his support for Al Sharpton.

    Every one asks his opinion about all sorts of things such as Jeremy Lin, NCAA basketball and this Martin incident. My attitude is “I don’t care about Obama’s opinions”.


  49. MikeA
    49 | March 27, 2012 10:18 am

    @ Speranza:

    Fire away. Don’t leave us after teasing… :)


  50. 50 | March 27, 2012 10:18 am

    @ Speranza:

    This is dispacable. Imagine if the Latin Kings, Italian Mafia, Chinese Mob, Mexican Mob, Russian Mob, Hell’s Angels or the Aryan Nation had put a bounty on a Black Person? The FBI would be all over them. The Black Panthers do that and nothing is said.


  51. 51 | March 27, 2012 10:20 am

    @ Speranza:

    He is our wise divine Pharaoh In Chief ™. As Evan Thomas said, he is god!


  52. 52 | March 27, 2012 10:20 am

    @ Rodan:

    Some animals are more equal than others…


  53. 53 | March 27, 2012 10:21 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I was just making a point. If Trayvon brought them on himself so be it. I was just being philosophical.

    And I was disagreeing with that philosophical point.


  54. 54 | March 27, 2012 10:23 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    This is dispacable. Imagine if the Latin Kings, Italian Mafia, Chinese Mob, Mexican Mob, Russian Mob, Hell’s Angels or the Aryan Nation had put a bounty on a Black Person? The FBI would be all over them. The Black Panthers do that and nothing is said.

    Well, we were told that the Holder Department of Injustice had issued a order to not prosecute Blacks.


  55. 55 | March 27, 2012 10:24 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Yup, that’s what we are seeing.

    White Working Class, White Hispanics, White Catholics, White Southerners, Indians, Black Conservatives and Rightwing Jews are the inferior races.

    Blacks, Progressive Whites, Muslims, Leftist Jews and La Raza Hispanics are the master race destined for 1000 years of glory!

    The old must be eliminated.
    ///

    Where have we heard this one before?


  56. 56 | March 27, 2012 10:25 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Yup, Holder will not go after his people.


  57. Speranza
    57 | March 27, 2012 10:26 am

    MikeA wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Fire away. Don’t leave us after teasing…

    In 1990 a friend of mine was going to his car (late at night) in lower Bay Bridge Brooklyn (also known as Sunset Park) and a guy comes over and pulls a knife and demands his wallet. My friend steps back making like he was scared and going for his wallet when he pulls out his gun (he was a corrections officer) and tells him to raise his hands. The guy says “I was only kidding” and Billy said “Well I’m not, now give me your fucking wallet”. The guy gave up his wallet and Billy said “I’m going to show you what it’s like to be a crime victim now take off your sneakers”. The guy took off his sneakers and Billy tossed one of them down the sewer as well as the guys knife and wallet -- minus the cash and change of course. Then he told the guy to turn around and put his hands on the car and to spread his legs. He did and the he kicked him in the balls. He figured “If I take him to the precinct he will walk and I will be there all night filling out forms, this is better justice”. He did not tell the perp he was a corrections officer so the perp is walking around (or limping) that night with one shoe and no money or wallet.


  58. Speranza
    58 | March 27, 2012 10:27 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    Obama fueled the fire on this. Instead of telling people to clam down, he through in support for Al Sharpton.

    He is still the community organizer.


  59. Speranza
    59 | March 27, 2012 10:28 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    He is our wise divine Pharaoh In Chief ™. As Evan Thomas said, he is god!

    God spelled backwards is dog and that is what he is to me.


  60. MikeA
    60 | March 27, 2012 10:30 am

    @ Speranza:

    Now that is justice!! Of course, what was your friend doing in that park late at night… Having grown up in NYC, I wuldn’t be walking around any park at night unless I had a Marine platoon and on-call air support.


  61. Speranza
    61 | March 27, 2012 10:33 am

    MikeA wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Now that is justice!! Of course, what was your friend doing in that park late at night… Having grown up in NYC, I wuldn’t be walking around any park at night unless I had a Marine platoon and on-call air support.

    He wasn’t in a park, the neighborhood was called “Sunset Park”. Knowing the bureaucracy and the liberal attitude towards crime in the NYC of David Dinkins, he did the right thing.


  62. MikeA
    62 | March 27, 2012 10:37 am

    @ Speranza:

    Oh yes… David Dinkins. What a wonderful mayor. Glad I moved away from NYC and can now purchase a gun quickly. Not that I have any guns of course. They are bad and any I may have purchased were lost in a freak boating accident…


  63. 63 | March 27, 2012 10:38 am

    @ MikeA:
    @ Speranza:

    The NY of today is not the NY of 1990. You can walk at night in most parts of the city without issue.


  64. 64 | March 27, 2012 10:38 am

    @ MikeA:

    Dinkins was a precursor to Obama.


  65. Speranza
    65 | March 27, 2012 10:42 am

    MikeA wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Oh yes… David Dinkins. What a wonderful mayor. Glad I moved away from NYC and can now purchase a gun quickly. Not that I have any guns of course. They are bad and any I may have purchased were lost in a freak boating accident…

    Dinkins was the NYC version of Obama.


  66. 66 | March 27, 2012 10:43 am

    @ Rodan:

    Speaking of being more equal:

    So what crimes may have the New Black Panthers committed in Florida with their threats toward George Zimmerman?

    Let’s start with solicitation to kidnap. In announcing a reward for the seizure of Zimmerman, the New Black Panthers may have violated Florida Code 787.01. It makes it a felony to “by threat, confining or abducting, or imprisoning another person against his . . . will without lawful authority with intent to . . . terrorize.”

    Merely soliciting someone else to do this is also a felony in Florida under Florida Code 777.04. “A person who solicits another to commit an offense prohibited by law and in the course of such solicitation commands, encourages, hires, or requests another person to engage in specific conduct which would constitute such offense or an attempt to commit such offense commits the offense of criminal solicitation.”

    The solicitation and threat to seize Zimmerman may also constitute a crime under Florida Code 876.35. The felony of “combination against part of the people of the state” occurs when someone is unlawfully seized by a mob, or at the behest of a mob. Think of a small town jail 100 years ago and an angry crowd, armed with rope, demanding a particular inmate. Sound familiar?

    Florida Code 876.35 defines the crime: “to remove them forcibly out of this state, or to remove them from their habitations to any other part of the state by force, or [when people] shall assemble for that purpose.” Remember, solicitation to commit a crime is in itself a crime.

    And he goes on. The Black Panthers have broken the law, but don’t expect any prosecutions. This is the definition of tolerance in Obama’s Brave New Post-Racial World…


  67. Speranza
    67 | March 27, 2012 10:43 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ MikeA:
    @ Speranza:
    The NY of today is not the NY of 1990. You can walk at night in most parts of the city without issue.

    Thanks to Giuliani’s policies although Bloomberg is backsliding. Rudy would never have tolerated the OWS crowd taking over that park.


  68. Bumr50
    68 | March 27, 2012 10:44 am

    OT -- Interesting piece at Politico.

    Karl Rove’s fight club


  69. Speranza
    69 | March 27, 2012 10:44 am

    @ Bumr50:
    I cannot stand Karl Rove -- he is the architect of defeat.


  70. Speranza
    70 | March 27, 2012 10:45 am

    If Obama had enough time to spare in between playing golf, campaigning, wasting money and race-baiting, he might have taken a seat by the window, put his famous abbreviated chin on one skinny fist and searched his soul for all the people killed in Mexico by his own Attorney General’s plot to wreck the Second Amendment.

    I love that!


  71. Bumr50
    71 | March 27, 2012 10:46 am

    @ Bumr50:

    Establishment Fight!

    In fact, Cantor has been moving in money circles outside Washington’s GOP establishment. POLITICO has learned that he attended the Koch brothers’ winter conference in California this January – his second appearance at a soiree considered the preeminent networking event for conservative mega-donors and the politicians currying their favor.

    Groups funded by the billionaire libertarian industrialists Charles and David Koch and their network sent representatives to the Weaver Terrace meetings in 2010 and are expected to do so again this year. But the Kochs have also at times positioned themselves as rivals of the more-establishment oriented Rove network. For instance, they’re backing a multi-million-dollar voter file project that’s seen in some quarters as directly competing with one backed by the Republican National Committee, and allies of Rove and House Speaker John Boehner, who has had an occasionally chilly relationship with Cantor.

    A new super PAC affiliated with Boehner called the Congressional Leadership Fund, which has become a key part of the Weaver Terrace network, even joined the chorus of GOP tongue clucking over Cantor’s Illinois play.

    The Leadership Fund “is not inclined to engage in primaries between incumbent members of the House Republican Conference,” Brian Walsh, the operative running the PAC, told POLITICO last week.


  72. 73 | March 27, 2012 10:47 am

    MikeA wrote:

    They are bad and any I may have purchased were lost in a freak boating accident…

    Oh… you were on that boat too eh? Funny, I am STILL waiting for my insurance settlement for that little freak accident… :shock: :twisted:


  73. Bumr50
    74 | March 27, 2012 10:51 am

    @ EBL:

    That poor man will be exiled.


  74. citizen_q
    75 | March 27, 2012 10:55 am

    The only silver lining I see in this mess is the “cry wolf” effect, and their over-playing this.

    Even with the collisional media people who don’t normally pay as much attention as well will notice they are being played and the media is biased.


  75. mawskrat
    76 | March 27, 2012 10:56 am

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    I cannot stand Karl Rove – he is the architect of defeat.

    I want to puke when he is on FOX


  76. mawskrat
    77 | March 27, 2012 10:58 am

    news conference at noon from Florida


  77. Bumr50
    78 | March 27, 2012 11:00 am

    @ Speranza:
    @ mawskrat:

    The piece is pretty informative as to how the big money is moving.

    I can’t stand Rove either.

    In fact, I can’t stand Politico, but I have to admit this is the fifth or sixth piece I’ve found there that was really informative about goings-on within the GOP -- stuff I didn’t find anywhere else.


  78. Doppelganger
    79 | March 27, 2012 11:04 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ rain of lead:
    It has become clear he (Zimmerman) was assaulted, and acted in self-defense. Full stop. That is why he hasn’t been arrested, and if justice (as opposed to the mob) is served he won’t be arrested. He’ll probably have to spend the next year or so in hiding, though, from the Black Panthers.

    next hear hiding? try the rest of his life. they’ve convicted him already and nothing will ever change that.
    Eric Holder should plug him into the witness protection program


  79. 80 | March 27, 2012 11:06 am

    Doppelganger wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    @ rain of lead:
    It has become clear he (Zimmerman) was assaulted, and acted in self-defense. Full stop. That is why he hasn’t been arrested, and if justice (as opposed to the mob) is served he won’t be arrested. He’ll probably have to spend the next year or so in hiding, though, from the Black Panthers.
    next hear hiding? try the rest of his life. they’ve convicted him already and nothing will ever change that.
    Eric Holder should plug him into the witness protection program

    The only thing Eric Holder wants to see George Zimmerman plugged into is Ole Sparky, on account of the fact that George Zimmerman refused to lay on the ground and take his beating the way he was suppose to.


  80. citizen_q
    81 | March 27, 2012 11:13 am

    Doppelganger wrote:

    Eric Holder should plug him into the witness protection program

    Oxymoron for a white or white hispanic against black race based violence?


  81. Speranza
    82 | March 27, 2012 11:13 am

    I think the truth will come out about this case and Zimmerman will ultimately be vindicated.


  82. MikeA
    83 | March 27, 2012 11:16 am

    @ Speranza:

    And will appear on page 36-J of the NYT and Wash Post.


  83. Bumr50
    84 | March 27, 2012 11:20 am

    @ Speranza:
    @ MikeA:

    It will become about gun control rather than race.


  84. citizen_q
    85 | March 27, 2012 11:22 am

    @ Speranza:
    I hope so, and fully expect that if that happens coverage will disappear, in order to milk this from all the social discord possible by leaving as large an open wound as possible.

    The behavior by the race merchants and media has been criminal. Right up there with falsely shouting fire in a theater.


  85. Doppelganger
    86 | March 27, 2012 11:27 am

    Speranza wrote:

    I think the truth will come out about this case and Zimmerman will ultimately be vindicated.

    I agree, and it will be Rodney King all over….but MUCH MUCH worse!

    I won’t be taking too many trips into Detroit once that happens. Not safe to begin with and I don’t want to press my luck.
    It’s already bad after Malik Shabaz yesterday threatened to burn the city down rather than have the state come in and fix the financial mess
    ( Malik, the city is already burned buddy…)


  86. huckfunn
    87 | March 27, 2012 11:33 am

    If reverends Sharpton and Jackson had a molecule of decency or godliness between them, they would take this opportunity to decry Trayvon Martin’s lifestyle. It’s pretty clear that he was a gangsta drug-thug and he died of causes natural, usual and customary for a young black male with that lifestyle. Of course doing the right thing and pointing out the evils of the gansta drug culture probably doesn’t pay near as well as waving the bloody shirt.


  87. Speranza
    88 | March 27, 2012 11:36 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    If reverends Sharpton and Jackson had a molecule of decency or godliness between them, they would take this opportunity to decry Trayvon Martin’s lifestyle.

    Fat chance that will ever happen. There are no more Bayard Rustin’s or Roy Wilkins’ out there any more.


  88. 90 | March 27, 2012 11:38 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    If reverends Sharpton and Jackson had a molecule of decency or godliness between them,

    Might as well end your fantasy right there, they don’t and never did. These two are I believe exactly the kind of people Jesus Christ was speaking to when he said, “And some will come before me saying Lord Lord, did we not cast demons out in your name, did we not work all manner of miracles in your name, and I will say to them… Depart from me you workers of iniquity, for I have never known you”.


  89. 91 | March 27, 2012 11:41 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Sooper Guide to “White Hispanic” skin color for the Gringo Media.

    Hmmmmm……………….


  90. Speranza
    92 | March 27, 2012 11:43 am

    MSNBC has been even by their low standards, unusually vile over this case.


  91. Speranza
    93 | March 27, 2012 11:43 am

    I get the impression they are willing to make George Zimmerman an American Dreyfus. Innocent but has to be declared guilty for the “common good”.


  92. huckfunn
    94 | March 27, 2012 11:44 am

    @ Speranza:
    Indeed. Although there was that one guy (former head of the NAACP) who called out the Just Us Bros. for their hypocrisy.


  93. Speranza
    95 | March 27, 2012 11:44 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    Oxymoron for a white or white hispanic against black race based violence?

    Blacks cannot be “racist” -- I have heard many a liberal proclaim that.


  94. Speranza
    96 | March 27, 2012 11:44 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Indeed. Although there was that one guy (former head of the NAACP) who called out the Just Us Bros. for their hypocrisy.

    There are always a few shining lights of integrity out there.


  95. Speranza
    97 | March 27, 2012 11:45 am

    @ huckfunn:
    Your avatar looks like Lee Marvin?


  96. Speranza
    98 | March 27, 2012 11:46 am

    Btw Lee Marvin is buried in Arlington National Cemetery.


  97. Speranza
    99 | March 27, 2012 11:47 am

    @ Bumr50:
    Karl Rove is an overrated turd. Why Fox has him on as an “analyst” is puzzling. He never has anything interesting or insightful to say.


  98. huckfunn
    100 | March 27, 2012 11:47 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    If reverends Sharpton and Jackson had a molecule of decency or godliness between them,

    Might as well end your fantasy right there, they don’t and never did. These two are I believe exactly the kind of people Jesus Christ was speaking to when he said, “And some will come before me saying Lord Lord, did we not cast demons out in your name, did we not work all manner of miracles in your name, and I will say to them… Depart from me you workers of iniquity, for I have never known you”.

    Excellent analogy!


  99. buzzsawmonkey
    101 | March 27, 2012 11:49 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Karl Rove is an overrated turd. Why Fox has him on as an “analyst” is puzzling. He never has anything interesting or insightful to say.

    But he does look smooth and porcine. Sort of like Bob Gibbs but Republican.


  100. Speranza
    102 | March 27, 2012 11:49 am

    @ huckfunn:
    If Jesse Jackson is a Reverend then I can become Pope. He is the most ungodly man ever in U.S. politics.


  101. Bumr50
    103 | March 27, 2012 11:49 am

    @ Speranza:

    The good news is, from the article it appears that some big money is backing away from his “Weaver Terrace Group.”

    Notice he’s also buddy-buddy with Boehner. Figures.


  102. Speranza
    104 | March 27, 2012 11:50 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    But he does look smooth and porcine. Sort of like Bob Gibbs but Republican.

    He looks like Humpty Dumpty. Why the Left has demonized him is puzzling as he is so damn incompetent.


  103. huckfunn
    105 | March 27, 2012 11:50 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Btw Lee Marvin is buried in Arlington National Cemetery.

    Yep; that’s Lee Marvin. He was one of those actors who really didn’t need to act. He was a natural born bad-ass. Paint Your Wagon is my fave Lee Marvin film.


  104. RIX
    106 | March 27, 2012 11:50 am

    The race hustlers are crying “chracter assasination” for
    anything that is negative about Trayvon Martin. Yet these non eyewitnesses are sure that
    Zimmerman is a murderer,
    WLS radio reported this morning that the kids 10 day
    suspesion from school was not just for trace amounts
    of marijuana is his knapsack, but he also had womens
    jewlery & a burgalers tool.


  105. Speranza
    107 | March 27, 2012 11:50 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    The good news is, from the article it appears that some big money is backing away from his “Weaver Terrace Group.”
    Notice he’s also buddy-buddy with Boehner. Figures.

    Boehner, Bush, McCain -- they all suck.


  106. Speranza
    108 | March 27, 2012 11:51 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    Yep; that’s Lee Marvin. He was one of those actors who really didn’t need to act. He was a natural born bad-ass. Paint Your Wagon is my fave Lee Marvin film.

    I saw him on many TV Westerns.


  107. huckfunn
    109 | March 27, 2012 11:51 am

    Back to work…

    later


  108. citizen_q
    110 | March 27, 2012 11:54 am

    At CIA, a convert to Islam leads the terrorism hunt

    Roger, which is the first name of his cover identity, may be the most consequential but least visible national security official in Washington — the principal architect of the CIA’s drone campaign and the leader of the hunt for Osama bin Laden. In many ways, he has also been the driving force of the Obama administration’s embrace of targeted killing as a centerpiece of its counterterrorism efforts.

    Colleagues describe Roger as a collection of contradictions. A chain-smoker who spends countless hours on a treadmill. Notoriously surly yet able to win over enough support from subordinates and bosses to hold on to his job. He presides over a campaign that has killed thousands of Islamist militants and angered millions of Muslims, but he is himself a convert to Islam.

    He also married a Muslim woman he met abroad, prompting his conversion to Islam. Colleagues said he doesn’t shy away from mentioning his religion but is not demonstrably observant. There is no prayer rug in his office, officials said, although he is known to clutch a strand of prayer beads.


  109. buzzsawmonkey
    111 | March 27, 2012 11:54 am

    I’ve mentioned it before, but it’s worth repeating: Trayvon Martin was killed, not “murdered.” “Murder” is a matter of legal determination.

    The black media ginned up “murder” hysteria when Gavin Cato was killed by a car in Crown Heights, too; I happened to be listening to a major black New York radio personality the day the accident happened. The news flashes immediately began calling the death a “murder.” It was this hysterical reportage that, in my view, fomented the Crown Heights riots and the murder—the actual murder, which is to say intentional slaying—of Yankel Rosenbaum.


  110. 112 | March 27, 2012 11:56 am

    @ RIX:

    It is “character assassination” to point out the evident lack of character of this young man. Gotcha. Okay, I’m not buying what they are selling. They wanted to try this in the court of public opinion, that makes this dude’s character and background very material to the case. But that doesn’t help demonize Whitey, so that is patently unfair:roll:


  111. citizen_q
    113 | March 27, 2012 11:58 am

    Speranza wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:
    But he does look smooth and porcine. Sort of like Bob Gibbs but Republican.
    He looks like Humpty Dumpty. Why the Left has demonized him is puzzling as he is so damn incompetent.

    If you can pick your enemies, it is best to pick an incompetent one.


  112. 114 | March 27, 2012 11:59 am

    @ citizen_q:

    Yeah, I saw that the other day. It put me in mind of Adolf Eichmann -- Nazi Hunter. Somehow, I don’t see the people who fought WWII putting up with that at the time.


  113. 115 | March 27, 2012 11:59 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    I’ve mentioned it before, but it’s worth repeating: Trayvon Martin was killed, not “murdered.” “Murder” is a matter of legal determination.
    The black media ginned up “murder” hysteria when Gavin Cato was killed by a car in Crown Heights, too; I happened to be listening to a major black New York radio personality the day the accident happened. The news flashes immediately began calling the death a “murder.” It was this hysterical reportage that, in my view, fomented the Crown Heights riots and the murder—the actual murder, which is to say intentional slaying—of Yankel Rosenbaum.

    And who pray tell, was the individual who incited that riot which resulted in the murder of Yankel Rosenbaum? His initials wouldn’t be Al Sharpton by any chance? Oh, and why exactly wasn’t Sharpton charged with and prosecuted for the murder of Yankel Rosenbaum?


  114. 116 | March 27, 2012 12:03 pm

    VDH on Obama’s Demagogery. Very good.


  115. RIX
    117 | March 27, 2012 12:03 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    They wanted to try this in the court of public opinion, that makes this dude’s character and background very material to the case

    This really is a lynch mob mentality. I get the strong
    feeling that when they talk about “justice” they will
    accept nothing less than a conviction & execution.
    I don’t like to speak ill of the dead, but Trayvan should
    not be given the complete benefit of the doubt.
    If he was alive I would call him a punk.


  116. buzzsawmonkey
    119 | March 27, 2012 12:06 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Oh, and why exactly wasn’t Sharpton charged with and prosecuted for the murder of Yankel Rosenbaum?

    Sharpton? Sharpton?! Ha! Surely you jest. The city bungled the prosecution of the actual stabber of Yankel Rosenbaum, Lemrick Nelson. He got off scot-free—it was only because he was also tried at the federal level for “denying Rosenbaum’s civil rights (by depriving him of life)” that he spent any time in jail. He even was photographed partying with the jury that let him off.

    What on earth would make you think that a city with district attorneys that craven and incompetent would go after a mere agitator? Sharpton was never even convicted for his role in inciting the massacre at Freddy’s Fashion Mart.

    More than Sharpton, Gary Byrd—the radio personality I mentioned earlier—and the radio station he worked for (I forget its name now) should have been at least investigated for their initial incitement leading up to the riots. Those “updates on the murder” news stories were venomous. And Dinkins too should have been somehow censured for his tepid response to the upheaval, which allowed it to go on far too long.


  117. 120 | March 27, 2012 12:08 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    Roseanne Barr invokes Krystallnacht in Trayvon Martin case

    Meh, Roseanne Barr is an imbecile, always has been always will be.


  118. 121 | March 27, 2012 12:11 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Incitement to riot is a federal felony, if anyone dies as a result of that riot, it is a mandatory involuntary manslaughter charge as well. That whole Crown Heights incident was nothing less than a criminal miscarriage of Justice.


  119. Speranza
    122 | March 27, 2012 12:12 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    VDH on Obama’s Demagogery. Very good.

    Why not do a thread on that?


  120. Speranza
    123 | March 27, 2012 12:14 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    Roseanne Barr invokes Krystallnacht in Trayvon Martin case

    Since she is pro Nazi I am surprised.


  121. 124 | March 27, 2012 12:19 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I don’t have time, or I would. I’m kind of busy right now, and I have a meeting later this afternoon.


  122. Speranza
    125 | March 27, 2012 12:20 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I don’t have time, or I would. I’m kind of busy right now, and I have a meeting later this afternoon.

    Hanson is always good for a thread. He is so interesting.


  123. RIX
    126 | March 27, 2012 12:26 pm

    Jessie Jackson on a United flight some years back
    was seated in first class.
    local media reported that he had a snit fit over
    a White flight attendant in First and had her swapped
    out for an African American attendant that was in economy.
    No racism there, none at all.


  124. 127 | March 27, 2012 12:29 pm

    New Thread.


  125. Bob in Breckenridge
    128 | March 27, 2012 12:38 pm

    Rush just said that the Marxist’s re-election campaign is now selling “Obama 2012″ hoodies. Those motherfuckers have no shame or class whatsoever!


  126. Doppelganger
    129 | March 27, 2012 12:42 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    disgraceful but not surprising


  127. 130 | March 27, 2012 12:44 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    Can you do a Headline on it?


  128. Bob in Breckenridge
    131 | March 27, 2012 1:07 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    Can you do a Headline on it?

    Yeah…Let me look for some pics


  129. darkwords
    132 | March 27, 2012 2:11 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge: The hoodies in this case represent dark alley blind violence. Not a sports team or a casual activity. They also represent the viewpoint from the collective black community protesting that black on white violence is ok, white on black violence is not ok. They are shifting the goal posts backwards and forwards in time as they protest. Because no one holds them accountable.


  130. darkwords
    133 | March 27, 2012 2:12 pm

    @ 121 doriangrey: I wonder if Eric Holder was the one who created the Black Panther Wanted: Dead or Alive bounty on Zimmerman?


  131. darkwords
    134 | March 27, 2012 2:16 pm

    @ 95 Speranza: But they can hate. That is the lever to use on the soical justice blacks and whites. make them face their hate.


  132. darkwords
    135 | March 27, 2012 2:19 pm

    @ 82 Speranza: The modern black fairy tale.

    AKA Chicken little
    AKA The three little pigs
    AKA The boy who cried wolf.

    The sooner black folks step up and throw the race hucksters out of their lives, the sooner their kids will be safe growing up.


  133. darkwords
    136 | March 27, 2012 2:23 pm

    What happens to a black teenager with an inattentive single mom? They encounter gangs and drugs. Males of any race that mom sends to live with dad end up there because they were headed down a troubled path mom couldn’t control.


  134. Alberta Oil Peon
    137 | March 27, 2012 3:45 pm

    @ Macker:
    Best of luck to you, Macker, and be sure to keep us in the loop about where you end up.


  135. Alberta Oil Peon
    138 | March 27, 2012 3:57 pm

    @ Doppelganger:
    As far as I am concerned, George Zimmerman would be welcome to come to Canada. I’m sure he could find a good job in some out of the way place where the Black Nazis could never find him.


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