First time visitor? Learn more.

The case of Robert Fisk

by Speranza ( 72 Comments › )
Filed under Gaza, Israel, Media, Syria at April 2nd, 2012 - 3:00 pm

Robert Fisk, the lying Arabist of Das Independent seems to have gotten himself into some hot water with his colleagues over a stupid remark (he makes so many of them) comparing Gaza to Homs in Syria.

by Damian Thompson

Robert Fisk, the Independent’s stridently anti-Zionist Middle East correspondent, is busy dodging bullets from his fellow foreign correspondents after suggesting that “the newsrooms of London and Washington didn’t have quite the same enthusiasm to get their folk into Gaza as they did to get them into Homs”.

Former colleagues of Marie Colvin and Remi Ochlik, both killed by the Syrians, have been venting their fury against Fisk on a private Facebook page. Many of their comments expand on a remark made in the Guardian by Ian Black, the paper’s Middle East editor, who was reviewing the memoirs of Hugh Pope, a distinguished Middle East correspondent, which strongly criticise Fisk’s style of reporting. According to Black, Pope was “not the first journalist to wonder with envy and irritation how Fisk ‘managed to get an amazing sounding story from a dull day’.” Black was choosing his words carefully (as am I) but read between the lines.

Private Eye has rounded up the allegations made against Fisk, which you can read here. Hugh Pope and Ian Black are unusual in airing this controversy on the record; another public critic of Fisk is the Times’s former war correspondent Jamie Dettmer, whose website is utterly scathing about Fisk’s colourful reportage. Now that, thanks to the Eye, we know what other colleagues have been saying in a private online discussion, Fisk is in a tight spot – as is the Independent, former employer of Johann Hari.

[.........]

Read the rest – “I  do not make stories up,” says an embattled Robert Fisk

Tags: ,

Comments

Comments and respectful debate are both welcome and encouraged.

Comments are the sole opinion of the comment writer, just as each thread posted is the sole opinion or post idea of the administrator that posted it or of the readers that have written guest posts for the Blogmocracy.

Obscene, abusive, or annoying remarks may be deleted or moved to spam for admin review, but the fact that particular comments remain on the site in no way constitutes an endorsement of their content by any other commenter or the admins of this Blogmocracy.

We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.

Play nice!

72 Responses to “The case of Robert Fisk”
( jump to bottom )

  1. mawskrat
    1 | April 2, 2012 8:17 am

    Good Mornin All…make it a great day!

    do some thing kind today…we may not be able
    to change the big things but the small things
    we can


  2. m
    2 | April 2, 2012 3:15 pm

    Fisk got fisked! Nice.


  3. 3 | April 2, 2012 3:21 pm

    Fisk is slime.


  4. 4 | April 2, 2012 3:56 pm

    Robert Fisk, the Independent’s stridently anti-Zionist anti-Semitic Middle East correspondent

    I believe in calling a spade a spade, and in this case, an anti-Semite and anti-Semite. He doesn’t really bother to hide what he is, just gets a pass from so-called “respectible” company…


  5. coldwarrior
    5 | April 2, 2012 4:12 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I believe in calling a spade a spade

    IMPLEMENTIST!!!


  6. 6 | April 2, 2012 4:32 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    …of DE-Struction.


  7. coldwarrior
    7 | April 2, 2012 4:32 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    …of DE-Struction.

    yeah!!!


  8. coldwarrior
    8 | April 2, 2012 4:48 pm

    well, this explains a lot if true:

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry was under the influence of painkillers during televised presidential debates over the last year to help relieve severe back pain, according to a soon-to-be released eBook on the 2012 Republican race for president obtained by The Daily Caller.

    “It became an open secret that he was using painkillers in sufficient dosages to keep him standing through the two-hour debates,” write the authors of “Inside the Circus.”

    A source provided TheDC with an advance copy of the eBook, authored by Mike Allen and Evan Thomas. The book comes out Tuesday.


  9. yenta-fada
    9 | April 2, 2012 4:52 pm

    To quote Ayn Rand again, “You can evade reality, but you cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.” (or something like that). As ‘opinion makers’ contradict the experience of their readers who continue to compete for jobs and make ends meet, they will lose their relevance.


  10. yenta-fada
    10 | April 2, 2012 4:55 pm

    Anti-Semitism has always been popular with the British upper class. They liked Hitler and they love Arab oil money. The City of London has a special tax structure that gives the rich a break. Don’t have a linky at the moment, but it’s not a well known thing.


  11. Bumr50
    11 | April 2, 2012 4:58 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    OT- Hey when is this crap going to be addressed seriously?

    Pitt evacuates Lawrence Hall after bomb threat</blockquote>

    The EIGHTH?

    Oh wait…they DID do something.

    Pitt adds security guards, removes bathroom stall doors inside Cathedral of Learning

    Liberal minds at work. CAUTION!

    They removed the stall doors, see, because that’s where people were writing them!

    Unbelievable.


  12. coldwarrior
    12 | April 2, 2012 5:11 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    my alma matter at work!

    :lol:


  13. yenta-fada
    13 | April 2, 2012 5:14 pm

    OT and long. nttawwt lol. It’s a decent look at the rogue government overreach with the military.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-understanding-slave-mentality


  14. yenta-fada
    14 | April 2, 2012 5:16 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    You could not make this stuff up. It’s too stoopid to even be considered Orwellian.


  15. Bumr50
    15 | April 2, 2012 5:21 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    @ yenta-fada:

    Pretty soon it’s going to be like a regular prison loo, once the perpetrators write the messages to their left and right.


  16. yenta-fada
    16 | April 2, 2012 5:38 pm

    Obama blames Israel for high gas prices:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/04/02/Obama-Admin-Blames-Israel-Oil-Prices


  17. yenta-fada
    17 | April 2, 2012 5:41 pm

    @Speranza.
    Drive home time and Spring Fever to blame for scarce blog posts.
    (channeling dems blaming everybody else) lol


  18. buzzsawmonkey
    18 | April 2, 2012 5:41 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    well, this explains a lot if true:

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry was under the influence of painkillers during televised presidential debates over the last year to help relieve severe back pain, according to a soon-to-be released eBook on the 2012 Republican race for president obtained by The Daily Caller.

    If true, Perry should have had the sense and the guts to either ask for a stool or high chair because he was in recovery—and thereby lessen his need for the painkillers—or to demand that everyone be seated instead of standing. Properly handled, mentioning the surgery recovery would have made him sympathetic, not made him seem weak.

    That he did not do this again calls into question either his own judgment or the judgment of his managers/handlers—and, thus, we come back again to his judgment in choosing them and keeping them when their advice was clearly killing his campaign.


  19. huckfunn
    19 | April 2, 2012 5:44 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    @ yenta-fada:

    Pretty soon it’s going to be like a regular prison loo, once the perpetrators write the messages to their left and right.

    When I was in basic training at Fort Polk, not only were there no doors on the stalls, there were no stalls. There were 6 toilets lined up against the wall, each about a foot from the next one. And ya know what? We didn’t have one friggin bomb threat. See… it works. //


  20. yenta-fada
    20 | April 2, 2012 5:46 pm

    h/t WZ “Obama takes aim at Supreme Court, calls them an unelected group of people”

    http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2012/04/02/obama-slams-activist-supreme-court-calls-them-unelected-group-people


  21. buzzsawmonkey
    21 | April 2, 2012 5:47 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    When I was in basic training at Fort Polk, not only were there no doors on the stalls, there were no stalls. There were 6 toilets lined up against the wall, each about a foot from the next one. And ya know what? We didn’t have one friggin bomb threat.

    I bet a few people dropped depth charges, though…


  22. huckfunn
    22 | April 2, 2012 5:51 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Ka-BOOM!


  23. yenta-fada
    23 | April 2, 2012 5:56 pm

    Weasel Zippers transcript of Ozero whining about the Supreme Court:

    PRESIDENT OBAMA: “So there is not only an economic element and a legal element to this, but there is a human element to this, and I hope that is not forgotten in this political debate. Ultimately, I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a Democratically-elected Congress. I just remind conservative commentators that for years we have heard the biggest problem on the bench was judicial activism or a lack of judicial restraint. That an unelected group of people would somehow return or overturn a duly constituted and passed law. Here’s a pretty good example. Well, I am confident that this court will recognize that and not take that step. As I said, we are confident this will be over, this will be upheld. As I said, we are confident this will be upheld because it should be upheld. Again, that’s not just my opinion. That’s the opinion of a whole lot of constitutional law professors and academics and judges and lawyers who have examined this law, even if they’re not particularly sympathetic to this particular piece of legislation or my presidency.”


  24. Bagua's Ghost
    24 | April 2, 2012 5:59 pm

    Obama warns ‘unelected’ Supreme Court against striking down health law

    Imagine the nerve of those Supreme Court Justices thinking they could uphold the Constitution and defy Obama?

    Don’t they understand how a Banana Republic operates? Humph!


  25. 25 | April 2, 2012 5:59 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    h/t WZ “Obama takes aim at Supreme Court, calls them an unelected group of people”

    http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2012/04/02/obama-slams-activist-supreme-court-calls-them-unelected-group-people

    That’s the second time he’s called out the Supreme Court, the first being during the State of the Union. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I can’t remember a POTUS freely critiquing SCOTUS in this fashion. It’s more than a bit seemly.


  26. huckfunn
    26 | April 2, 2012 6:00 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    He’s an off the chain totalitarian. He sees the Constitution and SCOTUS as impediments to his righteous rule.


  27. Bagua's Ghost
    27 | April 2, 2012 6:00 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Jinx!


  28. 28 | April 2, 2012 6:00 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    Unseemly.


  29. buzzsawmonkey
    29 | April 2, 2012 6:01 pm

    Bagua’s Ghost wrote:

    Imagine the nerve of those Supreme Court Justices thinking they could uphold the Constitution and defy Obama?

    If I were any of the conservative Justices, I’d be very, very watchful where hit and run drivers are concerned—at least until the opinion is issued, and possibly afterwards.


  30. huckfunn
    30 | April 2, 2012 6:01 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    h/t WZ “Obama takes aim at Supreme Court, calls them an unelected group of people”

    http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2012/04/02/obama-slams-activist-supreme-court-calls-them-unelected-group-people

    That’s the second time he’s called out the Supreme Court, the first being during the State of the Union. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I can’t remember a POTUS freely critiquing SCOTUS in this fashion. It’s more than a bit seemly.

    Dewd! How ya been?


  31. Bagua's Ghost
    31 | April 2, 2012 6:02 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Don’t be dense, google: People’s democratic dictatorship.

    It’s democratic so it’s OK.


  32. huckfunn
    32 | April 2, 2012 6:02 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    h/t WZ “Obama takes aim at Supreme Court, calls them an unelected group of people”

    http://nation.foxnews.com/president-obama/2012/04/02/obama-slams-activist-supreme-court-calls-them-unelected-group-people

    That’s the second time he’s called out the Supreme Court, the first being during the State of the Union. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I can’t remember a POTUS freely critiquing SCOTUS in this fashion. It’s more than a bit seemly.

    They’re going over this on Fox right now.


  33. NoThreat2U
    33 | April 2, 2012 6:03 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Now he is concerned about the “democratically elected congress” when he himself has no problem circumventing them.


  34. 34 | April 2, 2012 6:04 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    I’m good. Thanks for asking.


  35. buzzsawmonkey
    35 | April 2, 2012 6:06 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    Now he is concerned about the “democratically elected congress” when he himself has no problem circumventing them.

    You’re misreading him. He’s all for a “Democratically elected Congress”; what he can’t abide is having to deal with a Republicanly-elected Congress, as he’s had to since 2010.


  36. 36 | April 2, 2012 6:10 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Divided government and separation of powers are beautiful things.


  37. NoThreat2U
    37 | April 2, 2012 6:10 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Before the 2010 shellacking weren’t some dems already backing away from him?


  38. 38 | April 2, 2012 6:12 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Now he is concerned about the “democratically elected congress” when he himself has no problem circumventing them.

    Situational democracy.


  39. buzzsawmonkey
    39 | April 2, 2012 6:15 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    Before the 2010 shellacking weren’t some dems already backing away from him?

    Backing pre-shellacking?
    Can’t remember; wasn’t tracking…


  40. 40 | April 2, 2012 6:15 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Before the 2010 shellacking weren’t some dems already backing away from him?

    His support is a mile wide and an inch deep; I’m not at all pessimistic at our chances. Not at all.


  41. yenta-fada
    41 | April 2, 2012 6:17 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    He’s an off the chain totalitarian. He sees the Constitution and SCOTUS as impediments to his righteous rule.

    I think he gets more obvious every day. You do have to be paying attention to see it though. He has one strategy only and it’s been enough to propel him to the leadership of the free world. Why or how can he possibly abandon it? People are, one by one, waking up. The question is, will they do it before the coronation?
    It didn’t turn out that well for Julius Caesar./


  42. yenta-fada
    42 | April 2, 2012 6:18 pm

    Bagua’s Ghost wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Jinx!

    :-)


  43. NoThreat2U
    43 | April 2, 2012 6:18 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    Exactly!

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    None of the dems wanted his support because being aligned with him is toxic.

    @ MacDuff:
    I refuse to give up.


  44. yenta-fada
    44 | April 2, 2012 6:22 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Now he is concerned about the “democratically elected congress” when he himself has no problem circumventing them.

    Check yinz e-mail.


  45. buzzsawmonkey
    45 | April 2, 2012 6:25 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    His support is a mile wide and an inch deep

    Oh, it might be eight miles wide.


  46. yenta-fada
    46 | April 2, 2012 6:25 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    NoThreat2U wrote:
    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Before the 2010 shellacking weren’t some dems already backing away from him?
    His support is a mile wide and an inch deep; I’m not at all pessimistic at our chances. Not at all.

    Well said. There is NO reason to let the Dem propaganda machine mess with your mind. It plays into their hands. Believe me, there have to be a lot of people who can no longer stand to listen to Ozero go “blah, blah, blah”.


  47. 47 | April 2, 2012 6:32 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    His support is a mile wide and an inch deep

    Oh, it might be eight miles wide.

    Maybe you’re thinking about Michelle…..


  48. yenta-fada
    48 | April 2, 2012 6:34 pm

    This is a great site for a blog summary of Ozero’s radicalism & related topics.

    http://directorblue.blogspot.ca/2012/04/larwyns-linx-cardinal-dolan-obamas.html


  49. buzzsawmonkey
    49 | April 2, 2012 6:37 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Maybe you’re thinking about Michelle…..

    Since Obama raised the issue, I was just trying to figure out a large enough venue for him to hold the c*nt reception.


  50. yenta-fada
    50 | April 2, 2012 6:37 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:
    MacDuff wrote:
    His support is a mile wide and an inch deep
    Oh, it might be eight miles wide.
    Maybe you’re thinking about Michelle…..

    heh

    http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2012/04/michelle-obama-dressed-like-a-street-walker-at-nickelodeons-kids-choice-awards/


  51. NoThreat2U
    51 | April 2, 2012 6:38 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Checked and responded :)


  52. Buckeye Abroad
    52 | April 2, 2012 6:44 pm

    Not Robert “beat me again” Fisk?

    Wasn’t he with the BBC in 2003 claiming “the Americans are no where near Baghdad airport” on live television while the studio cameras were showing US M1 Abrams blizting over the runways? Also didn’t his studio colleagues tried to clue him in giving hime a few hints, but he stuck to his guns… and lost his job.


  53. Speranza
    53 | April 2, 2012 6:51 pm

    @ m:

    Yes “Fisking” became a verb.
    Fisk is lower then slime.


  54. Speranza
    54 | April 2, 2012 6:53 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry was under the influence of painkillers during televised presidential debates over the last year to help relieve severe back pain, according to a soon-to-be released eBook on the 2012 Republican race for president obtained by The Daily Caller.

    “It became an open secret that he was using painkillers in sufficient dosages to keep him standing through the two-hour debates,” write the authors of “Inside the Circus.”

    Of all the candidates based strictly on his record, I felt he would have made the best POTUS.


  55. buzzsawmonkey
    55 | April 2, 2012 6:53 pm

    Before I pack it in, this is huge:

    Obama campaign disables credit card verification for donations, just like it did in 2008.


  56. Speranza
    56 | April 2, 2012 6:54 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    Not Robert “beat me again” Fisk?
    Wasn’t he with the BBC in 2003 claiming “the Americans are no where near Baghdad airport” on live television while the studio cameras were showing US M1 Abrams blizting over the runways? Also didn’t his studio colleagues tried to clue him in giving hime a few hints, but he stuck to his guns… and lost his job.

    That was Baghdad Bob but maybe Fisk said the same thing.


  57. Speranza
    57 | April 2, 2012 6:56 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    I was ill for most of today.


  58. Speranza
    58 | April 2, 2012 6:59 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    That he did not do this again calls into question either his own judgment or the judgment of his managers/handlers—and, thus, we come back again to his judgment in choosing them and keeping them when their advice was clearly killing his campaign.

    Completely disagree with you, he showed integrity and when he refused to play the nativist card (as did I must give them credit Jon Huntsman and Newt Gingrich) as opposed to the odious pygmies such as Bachmann-Turner-Over Drive, Father Santorum, and Willard Romney.


  59. Buckeye Abroad
    59 | April 2, 2012 7:00 pm

    @ Speranza:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/885199/posts

    Robert Fisk: Reports of airport assault premature

    But few here believe the Americans cannot bash their way into Baghdad if they really want to. After all, Napoleon got to Moscow in the end. I guess it’s the same old question. The Russians could hold Stalingrad because they loved Russia as much as they feared Marshal Stalin. Does that equation of patriotism and dictatorship apply to the Iraqis? Messers Bush and Blair must hope it does not.

    I didn’t know stupidity could be stacked so high.


  60. Speranza
    60 | April 2, 2012 7:02 pm

    @ Buckeye Abroad:
    Ok yes now I remember that.
    He also got beat up by some Afghans and wrote that if he were an Afghan he would have do\ne the same.


  61. yenta-fada
    61 | April 2, 2012 7:02 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I was ill for most of today.

    I’m sorry to hear that. Get well soon, drink lots of liquids, and other yenta type stuff. :-)
    *Chicken Soup*


  62. Speranza
    62 | April 2, 2012 7:03 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    @ yenta-fada:
    I was ill for most of today.
    I’m sorry to hear that. Get well soon, drink lots of liquids, and other yenta type stuff.
    *Chicken Soup*

    I have become a real soup maven -- my favorite being any tomato soup and mulligatawny (an Indian lentil and rice soup).


  63. yenta-fada
    63 | April 2, 2012 7:05 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Before I pack it in, this is huge:
    Obama campaign disables credit card verification for donations, just like it did in 2008.

    Wow. People aren’t writing the big checks for Ozero these days…even with constant fundraising by POTUS and the magic of FLOTUS. FRAUD, much?


  64. yenta-fada
    64 | April 2, 2012 7:09 pm

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    The Blogmocracy has a long memory, not a memory hole. Good one.


  65. huckfunn
    65 | April 2, 2012 7:18 pm

    Here’s a project that will take some serious research.

    43 members of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) are wailing about the Trayvon thing. CHALLENGE. How many young blacks, aged 1 day to 25 years old, died from black on black violence in each CBC district, during each CBC member’s tenure (year-by-year) over the past 5 years? What were the causes? What has each CBC member done about it? What have reverends Jackson and Sharpton done about it? What has the Attorney General done about it? What has the POS-in-Chief done about it? Where are the investigative journalists? What does the Congressional White Caucus (CWC) say about this? (Hint; there ain’t no CWC— that would be RAAAAACIST).


  66. Speranza
    66 | April 2, 2012 7:18 pm

    Today was so awful, I kept looking around to see if Nicholas Cage was in it.


  67. huckfunn
    67 | April 2, 2012 7:27 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Today was so awful, I kept looking around to see if Nicholas Cage was in it.

    So you got a problem with Nick Cage looking over your shoulder?


  68. Speranza
    68 | April 2, 2012 7:29 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Today was so awful, I kept looking around to see if Nicholas Cage was in it.

    So you got a problem with Nick Cage looking over your shoulder?

    Nah it’s just that outside of two films I can never remember him being a good movie.


  69. huckfunn
    69 | April 2, 2012 7:43 pm

    @ Speranza:
    I liked him in Raising Arizona. Other than that, he’s just too weird and creepy.


  70. 70 | April 2, 2012 7:56 pm

    @ Speranza:

    The GOP should go out of business if they lose this election.


  71. Speranza
    71 | April 2, 2012 8:01 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    The GOP should go out of business if they lose this election.

    I am afraid they will blow it.


  72. Speranza
    72 | April 2, 2012 8:02 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I liked him in Raising Arizona. Other than that, he’s just too weird and creepy.

    I forgot about Raising Arizona. I liked Honeymoon in Vegas and Moonstruck.


Back to the Top

The Blogmocracy

website design was Built By David