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Truck Runs w/o Gas?

by Bunk X ( 81 Comments › )
Filed under Cars & Trucks, Climate, Environmentalism, Humor, OOT, Open thread at April 4th, 2012 - 10:10 pm


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Late tribute to Earth Day/Alpha Proxima Day.  I don’t know the story behind this, but it looks like this Dodge Ram runs on coal, just like the electric cars do in many parts of the country.

We’re all about fighting Global Cooling here on The Overnight Open Thread.

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  1. brookly red
    1 | April 4, 2012 10:14 pm

    heck round these parts if you could make one run on chicken bones…


  2. 2 | April 4, 2012 10:15 pm

    Interesting.


  3. AZfederalist
    3 | April 4, 2012 10:15 pm

    Headed to the Junction, Petticoat Junction.


  4. Philip_Daniel
    4 | April 4, 2012 10:16 pm

    This is a sonata by Teodorico Pedrini, written for and performed in the Forbidden City before the Kangxi Emperor!…


  5. Bumr50
    5 | April 4, 2012 10:17 pm

    Trucks with stacks in the bed seem to be all the rage here nowadays.

    What a pointless waste of bed space!!


  6. 6 | April 4, 2012 10:19 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    Hey did you ever see my Malta Threads?


  7. Philip_Daniel
    7 | April 4, 2012 10:30 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Philip_Daniel:
    Hey did you ever see my Malta Threads?

    I believe so.


  8. Philip_Daniel
    8 | April 4, 2012 10:32 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Bolivian Baroque music…


  9. 10 | April 4, 2012 10:33 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    That’s cool. Indigenous Bolivians doing Baroque music!


  10. Philip_Daniel
    11 | April 4, 2012 10:34 pm

    @ Rodan:

    A superior video…

    Very New World-ish, don’t you think?


  11. 12 | April 4, 2012 10:34 pm

    I was just reading about Malta, or the Maltese anyway. Interesting bunch -- they went Arab (the language is Sicilian Arabic), but rejected Islam


  12. Philip_Daniel
    13 | April 4, 2012 10:34 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Philip_Daniel:
    That’s cool. Indigenous Bolivians doing Baroque music!

    Not just any Baroque, but Bolivian Jesuit music…


  13. Philip_Daniel
    14 | April 4, 2012 10:36 pm

    A Maltese Stabat Mater…

    Fairly typical “Italianate” High Baroque


  14. Philip_Daniel
    15 | April 4, 2012 10:36 pm

    Philip_Daniel wrote:

    A Maltese Stabat Mater…

    Just to clear up any possible confusion — the composer is Maltese, the text Latin…


  15. 16 | April 4, 2012 10:42 pm

    @ Zimriel:

    Yes they speak Sicilian Arabic as a legacy of Islamic rule.


  16. 17 | April 4, 2012 10:43 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    The Jesuits are big on classical music.


  17. Philip_Daniel
    18 | April 4, 2012 11:02 pm


  18. mfhorn
    19 | April 4, 2012 11:05 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    Can you explain the trucks with the tiny beds, like the Honda?


  19. Philip_Daniel
    20 | April 4, 2012 11:08 pm


  20. Philip_Daniel
    21 | April 4, 2012 11:14 pm

    If this fails to move you, then your heart is stone…


  21. 22 | April 4, 2012 11:18 pm

    Global cooling? BILLIONS will die!!!!!!!!!!!
    Oh wait — where am I again?


  22. 23 | April 4, 2012 11:27 pm

    @ Philip_Daniel:

    Each to their own Philip, personally I find it rather boring, just as I am sure you find what I consider moving equally boring.


  23. Philip_Daniel
    24 | April 4, 2012 11:56 pm


  24. AZfederalist
    25 | April 5, 2012 12:47 am

    mfhorn wrote:

    Can you explain the trucks with the tiny beds, like the Honda?

    Nope.


  25. Mongoose
    26 | April 5, 2012 12:53 am

    @ AZfederalist:
    Yep.

    The license thingy is much cheaper per year in many states because they are classed as agricultural vehicles or something. Also it is a good place to put your dog after you have been hunting.


  26. 27 | April 5, 2012 12:57 am

    Mongoose wrote:

    @ AZfederalist:
    Yep.
    The license thingy is much cheaper per year in many states because they are classed as agricultural vehicles or something. Also it is a good place to put your dog after you have been hunting.

    BOOONG………………. heh heh heh, got me a mongoose…. Now where’s the receipt of mine again…. :twisted:


  27. AZfederalist
    28 | April 5, 2012 1:01 am

    Mongoose wrote:

    The license thingy is much cheaper per year in many states because they are classed as agricultural vehicles or something. Also it is a good place to put your dog after you have been hunting.

    A full size pickup would also be classed as a Farm Truck as well. I guess if all you need is a place for your wet dog or scuba gear, that little open trunk might have some utility. Otherwise, your groceries are just going to get wet.


  28. 29 | April 5, 2012 1:01 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Mongoose wrote:
    @ AZfederalist:
    Yep.
    The license thingy is much cheaper per year in many states because they are classed as agricultural vehicles or something. Also it is a good place to put your dog after you have been hunting.

    BOOONG………………. heh heh heh, got me a mongoose…. Now where’s the receipt of mine again….

    Oh come on guys… Who stole my receipt for Mongoose pie? It was right here stickied to the wall next to the bar…


  29. Mongoose
    30 | April 5, 2012 1:03 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Hey, the rule in hunting is “You shoot it you eat it”

    Eat this!

    *Lifts up his tail and shows Dorian his ass as he limps, wounded under the couch and down the trapdoor whilst leaving a glistening trail of fresh blood……*

    *whoooshh.. ouch… gone*


  30. 31 | April 5, 2012 1:06 am

    Damn it… I almost had him that time… :evil:


  31. 32 | April 5, 2012 1:08 am

    @ Mongoose:

    Get back in here damn it… <—-- chases after mongoose with a casserole pot…


  32. Calo
    33 | April 5, 2012 1:11 am

    @ doriangrey:
    Dorian, we were getting along so well for a while. :mad:


  33. 34 | April 5, 2012 1:11 am

    <—— Comes scampering back out of the trapdoor…. damn it's scary down there… :shock:


  34. AZfederalist
    35 | April 5, 2012 1:11 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Damn it… I almost had him that time…

    Need to let your niece take the shot next time. ;-)


  35. 36 | April 5, 2012 1:14 am

    AZfederalist wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Damn it… I almost had him that time…
    Need to let your niece take the shot next time.

    Errr, umm, yea, that’s it, I took a shot at him… <—— Slides coldwarriors now seriously denting favorite saute pan under the bar with foot… :oops:


  36. AZfederalist
    37 | April 5, 2012 1:18 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Oooh, CW ain’t gonna be happy about that


  37. 38 | April 5, 2012 1:20 am

    AZfederalist wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Oooh, CW ain’t gonna be happy about that

    About what??? I have no idea what you could possible be talking about… :roll:


  38. 39 | April 5, 2012 1:26 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    AZfederalist wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    Oooh, CW ain’t gonna be happy about that

    About what??? I have no idea what you could possible be talking about…

    Oh… gee, look at the time… I am sure I have some very important errands I must be running… :shock:


  39. AZfederalist
    40 | April 5, 2012 1:33 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Time to go looking for Bill Keane’s Not Me and Ida Know. ;-)


  40. 41 | April 5, 2012 5:07 am

    Actually, it is possible to run an internal combustion engine on powdered coal. But they sure don’t last long.


  41. Bumr50
    42 | April 5, 2012 5:28 am

    Tone deaf.

    Romney slams new media at liberal journo event; conservative new media slams back


  42. Bumr50
    43 | April 5, 2012 5:30 am

    @ Mike C.:

    I ain’t changing the oil.


  43. 44 | April 5, 2012 5:50 am

    @ Bumr50:

    Back in the 70s, there was a prof at WVU working on such things. Never worked out, of course.


  44. 45 | April 5, 2012 5:55 am

    Morning all. Other walks, cars, bridges, and stuff.


  45. Bumr50
    46 | April 5, 2012 5:57 am

    @ Mike C.:

    That makes sense. High gas prices and lots of surplus coal dust there.

    Speaking of coal, the guy that bought my Dad’s company space when he retired three years ago is going like gangbusters, expanding wildly. He sells mining equipment to China.

    Wish I would’ve thought of that…


  46. 47 | April 5, 2012 5:57 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ Bumr50:

    Back in the 70s, there was a prof at WVU working on such things. Never worked out, of course.

    A WVU prof developing a coal powered car. This is why people poke fun at WV ;)


  47. Bumr50
    48 | April 5, 2012 6:01 am

    @ PaladinPhil:

    That Cuban taxi is LOST.


  48. 49 | April 5, 2012 6:06 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ Mike C.:

    That makes sense. High gas prices and lots of surplus coal dust there.

    Speaking of coal, the guy that bought my Dad’s company space when he retired three years ago is going like gangbusters, expanding wildly. He sells mining equipment to China.

    Wish I would’ve thought of that…

    People sneer at “coal fired” plants, but there has to be a way to extract energy from coal cleanly -- there a hell of a lit of energy in coal and we have a lot of it. Burning it in cars seems nuts, but in power plants it’s not so nuts.

    Coal, natural gas, nuclear…… wasting our time and resources on crap like wind and solar is near criminal foolishness.


  49. 50 | April 5, 2012 6:10 am

    Hispanics and Latinos don’t like being called Hispanic or Latino.

    Study: Most Hispanics Prefer Describing Identity From Family’s Country Of Origin

    Where’s Rodan? I’d like his take on this one……


  50. 51 | April 5, 2012 6:15 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ PaladinPhil:

    That Cuban taxi is LOST.

    Wow, an old Checker -- designed and built to be taxis. They were built like tanks….and drove like ‘em too.


  51. Bumr50
    52 | April 5, 2012 6:18 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Is it a Volvo?

    My Grandpap said they all used to be Volvos, at least here in da burgh.


  52. Bumr50
    53 | April 5, 2012 6:24 am

    @ MacDuff:

    I wonder if that will change in a generation or two.

    I know that I’m about two generations removed from that sort of “national” identifier, and my great grandparents came in the late 1800′s.

    I remain cognizant and proud of my heritage, but am a bit of a “mutt” due to intermarriage.

    I identify as ‘American.’


  53. 54 | April 5, 2012 6:29 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Is it a Volvo?

    My Grandpap said they all used to be Volvos, at least here in da burgh.

    They were made by Checker Motors in Kalamazoo, MI. With, of course, their primary customer being Checker Cab, Co. Ya know, it seems like there’d be a market today for a vehicle specifically engineered to be a taxi.


  54. Bumr50
    55 | April 5, 2012 6:33 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Ya learn something new everyday!

    If they built one today, it could be a wonderful showcase for natural gas in a passenger or performance car.


  55. 56 | April 5, 2012 6:39 am

    That WVU prof had a lot of grant money from coal companies. If you’ll remember, the mid-70s was the “coal boom”, and there were beaucoup bucks floating around the industry back then.

    As to burning coal very cleanly, there’s coal gassification, a very well understood process that is completely uneconomical at today’s natural gas prices. Colombia used to have a coal gassification plant, in the Powder River basin, IIRC.


  56. Bumr50
    57 | April 5, 2012 6:44 am

    @ Mike C.:

    One of the many reasons that we don’t make much steel here anymore is because you can’t build a profitable coke plant with all of the regs, and the two that we do have locally operate under a huge “fine burden” that they’ll never shake because the regs are impossible to comply with.


  57. 58 | April 5, 2012 7:08 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    I wonder if that will change in a generation or two.

    I know that I’m about two generations removed from that sort of “national” identifier, and my great grandparents came in the late 1800′s.

    I remain cognizant and proud of my heritage, but am a bit of a “mutt” due to intermarriage.

    I identify as ‘American.’

    We seem to be sub-dividing ourselves into smaller and smaller groups. Yeah, most of us are mutts, truth be told. I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about my ethnicity (except maybe on St. Paddy’s), and that’s really what it is…ethnicity, not race. We’re already to the point where it’s pretty difficult to determine race or ethnicity on sight. Does Halle Berry really look black? There are some Puerto Ricans with blue eyes and blonde hair. I used to travel constantly and I’d mentally try to guess people’s race/ethnicity in airports. It’s very difficult to distinguish between Hispanics, Indians, Middle Easterners, etc, without working at it. I’m a blue eyed blonde, so I’d stand out in a place like Baghdad. My cousins, on the other hand, have brown eyes, dark hair and skin that’s a noticeably darker than my own -- they’d likely fit right in, even though they’re not Middle Eastern.

    The more time that goes by, the more difficult it is to determine the race of most people and that will only accelerate in the future. Yeah, there will be REALLY white people and REALLY black people and REALLY Asian people but the overwhelming majority of us will be varying shades of beige, and that’s not a bad thing. The fact is that heavily mixed-race people are generally pretty attractive people!


  58. Bumr50
    59 | April 5, 2012 7:27 am

    Ed Gillespie joins Team Romney

    Because Karl Rove was unavailable?


  59. 60 | April 5, 2012 7:44 am

    A couple of paragraph that, though disturbing, explain a lot.

    The illegitimacy rate among all Americans has been rising for decades. In 2012, we reached a grim milestone: The majority of births to women under the age of 30 are now outside of marriage. Among blacks, 72 percent of births are to unmarried women. And while some unmarried mothers go on to marry the fathers of their babies, it’s rare in the African-American community, where only 31 percent of couples are married (in 1960, it was 61 percent).

    The result of this adult folly is chaos, misery, and often violent death for kids. Why do young males join gangs? Because without a father to guide and protect them, they seek physical protection from human predators as well as ratification of their masculinity from the gang. A counselor at a juvenile detention facility in California told the Patriot Post, “[If] you find a gang member who comes from a complete nuclear family, I’d like to meet him. . . . I don’t think that kid exists.” A full 85 percent of youths in prison come from fatherless homes, as do 80 percent of rapists, 71 percent of high-school drop-outs, and 63 percent of teen suicides

    .


  60. 61 | April 5, 2012 7:45 am

    @ Bumr50:
    @ MacDuff:
    You know, I didn’t realize what model it was. Saw pink and thought Cadillac. :p


  61. Bumr50
    62 | April 5, 2012 7:47 am

    @ PaladinPhil:

    In Key West all the taxis are pink!


  62. Bumr50
    63 | April 5, 2012 7:48 am

    @ MacDuff:

    “Great Society”, huh?

    //


  63. 65 | April 5, 2012 8:03 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    “Great Society”, huh?

    //

    Yes, I think it should, indeed, be laid at the feet of LBJ.


  64. Bumr50
    66 | April 5, 2012 8:09 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Children = Checks.

    It’s a way of life for many. Some honestly don’t know anything else.

    No joke.


  65. 67 | April 5, 2012 8:13 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    Racist.

    Marion Barry: we must do something about the ‘dirty’ Asians

    Yeah, I guess those shops should be replaced with bombed-out crack houses in order to protect the ethnic integrity of the community. Maybe if the Berrys, Sharptons, Jackson’s, et al would just STFU blacks could begin to recover the self-respect that’s been stolen from them. Say what one wants about Bush, “the soft bigotry of low expectations” is one of the most spot-on sentences on race that I’ve heard since MLK.


  66. 68 | April 5, 2012 8:17 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Children = Checks.

    It’s a way of life for many. Some honestly don’t know anything else.

    No joke.

    And don’t forget the other part of the equation:

    Government = Father

    This is where the “national conversation on race” should begin.


  67. Guggi
    69 | April 5, 2012 8:18 am

    Yesterday the term „social darwinism“ used by Obama to libel the GOP was mentioned on this thread

    Richard Hofstadter – a former communist and although he later became more „conservative“ he hated capitalism till his very end -- who made this term known to a broader public connected „social darwinism“ above all to individualism and capitalism. But „social darwinism“ was also one of the corner stones of Nazism and Fascism. Even Hitler’s book „Mein Kampf“ refers to it in his title (the term „social darwinism“ wasn’t very common during Hitler’s time and only used in some scholary works) and „social darwinism“ is one of the main arguments in the book. The concept of „social darwinism“ should justify imperialism, genocide (Shoa), racism and eugenics.
    So, „social darwinism“ denounces your rivals not only as capitalists and individualists, but also as genocidal imperialistic racists or Nazis.

    If an European politician in a comparable position like Obama would use the term to libel his rivals a hell would break loose. This is agit-prop on the lowest level and below the belt. So why does the GOP let him go away with such foul affronts since 2006 ?

    Why does none of the GOP -- of course only with words -- beat him to a pulp every time he uses his foul language ?


  68. Bumr50
    70 | April 5, 2012 8:22 am

    @ MacDuff:

    The “Black vs. Asian” thing was made apparent to me a few years back at business school. Many of the students were there from inner city backgrounds, and the female students in particular made a point of denigrating the Asians every chance they got because they claim that the Asians overcharge for hair extensions, weaves, and whatnot.

    Then they made a point of STEALING from the Asians (because they were “overcharging,” of course). And now the Asian staff follows them around the store asking if they need help, to prevent theft, and so then of course the Asians were being “racist” for doing so.

    The Asians chose to capitalize on the market demand.

    Just a “real world” example.


  69. Bumr50
    71 | April 5, 2012 8:27 am

    Guggi wrote:

    Why does none of the GOP – of course only with words – beat him to a pulp every time he uses his foul language ?

    Because a large part of the GOP is gutless and more interested in “going along to get along” than making waves.

    The worst RINOs of the bunch, John McCain and Lindsey Graham, are represented in our media as “elder statesmen” of the party, and therefore you don’t see the REAL conservatives.

    They’re out there, they just don’t get any exposure.


  70. Guggi
    72 | April 5, 2012 8:40 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    The worst RINOs of the bunch, John McCain and Lindsey Graham, are represented in our media as “elder statesmen” of the party, and therefore you don’t see the REAL conservatives.
    They’re out there, they just don’t get any exposure.

    Rodan once asked me whom I would prefer as candidate of the GOP. To be honest: there is not a single candidate I would support without holding my nose.

    Romneys speeches should be made prescibed as dangerous sleeping pills, Santorum has no clue about anything and Gingrich is out. Where is the tea-party ? Where are the tea-party candidates ? Will they support Romney or split the vote ?


  71. Bumr50
    73 | April 5, 2012 8:49 am

    @ Guggi:

    Most Tea Partiers, myself included, will vote for Mitt Romney should he be the nominee in November, but there is a growing chorus of complete dissatisfaction with the GOP based on a lengthy pattern of incompetence and outright rebuke of their base.

    I would be extremely surprised if there isn’t a serious attempt at establishing a third party in a smart way after this cycle that embraces original intent of the US Constitution, fiscal responsibility, and realistic foreign policy.

    It may not be viable for quite a while, but the need is definitely there.

    I personally am a registered Republican simply because they are the only realistic choice against the Progressive Party (Dems.) NOT because the GOP has reflected my values satisfactorily enough or even proven itself competent since I’ve been a voter (1993).

    While and many others here would probably describe themselves as Libertarian, the Libertarian Party here is an absolutely beyond salvageable trainwreck of loony toons.


  72. Guggi
    74 | April 5, 2012 8:54 am

    @ Bumr50:

    Better to transform the GOP from inside than to establish a third party. As an European I know what it means to have more than two parties and it does no good.


  73. 75 | April 5, 2012 9:02 am

    @ Guggi:
    @ Bumr50:

    White and Black Liberals have been so effective at (unfairly) portraying Conservatives as “racist” that Conservatives are so traumatized that they simply shy away from any racial discussions whatsoever. That “Conservatives are racists” is such a given that Conservatives are faced with proving a negative and “I am not a racist” comes off like “I don’t beat my wife”.

    We need more Black Conservatives to plead our case because, alas, we still haven’t achieved the “color-blind” society. The fact is that Black Conservatives are the only people who are able to save American Black people from total oblivion and there are a lot of Black intellectuals beating that drum.


  74. 76 | April 5, 2012 9:17 am

    @ MacDuff:

    The GOP’s problem is with Hispanics. Just look at the comment sections of Hot Air when any Hispanic related topic appears. The nastiness and outright bigotry is a turn off.
    In 2004 Bush got 44%. Right now polls show Romney at 15%. My family is sitting this election out because they are tired of being demonize. I am still voting because Obama is a Marxist and Obamacare is evil.


  75. 77 | April 5, 2012 9:19 am

    @ Guggi:

    The GOP is hopeless and honestly I am not wanted. Its time for a new Rightwing Party.


  76. Guggi
    78 | April 5, 2012 9:22 am

    @ MacDuff:

    If you wait for more black republicans you’re screwed. Won’t taking place any time soon. What you need are balls and education. Republicans -- from what color ever -- have to know the history and racism of the lefties. Then you can go on to confront them and destroy and to put into shreds their leftwing re-written history. Beat them with their own arms. But what I see in the GOP are mostly whiny cowards (of course there are some exceptions).

    If the GOP doesn’t attrack more young people interested in politics like Ryan, the party is done. If he doesn’t do something very stupid Ryan could be a hope for the future and a role model for others (like to some extend Lt. Col. West is)


  77. 79 | April 5, 2012 9:38 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    Back in the 70s, there was a prof at WVU working on such things. Never worked out, of course.

    I actually have a “Theory of Internal Combustion” text book somewhere and it has a sub-chapter on coal as a fuel for the internal combustion engine. Turns out that finely poweredized coal dust has similar thermal energy output qualities to gasoline, go figure eh? according to my text book, the problem is, that the fine coal dust works it’s way down past the rings and scores the cylinder walls and the pistons eventual (rather quickly actually) loose compression.


  78. 80 | April 5, 2012 9:41 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ PaladinPhil:
    In Key West all the taxis are pink!

    ROTFLMAO… I remember that, they are called Conch Trains… :lol: :lol: :lol:


  79. 81 | April 5, 2012 9:50 am

    Guggi wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    If you wait for more black republicans you’re screwed. Won’t taking place any time soon. What you need are balls and education. Republicans – from what color ever – have to know the history and racism of the lefties. Then you can go on to confront them and destroy and to put into shreds their leftwing re-written history. Beat them with their own arms. But what I see in the GOP are mostly whiny cowards (of course there are some exceptions).

    If the GOP doesn’t attrack more young people interested in politics like Ryan, the party is done. If he doesn’t do something very stupid Ryan could be a hope for the future and a role model for others (like to some extend Lt. Col. West is)

    I don’t think Conservatism needs Blacks as much as Blacks desperately need Conservatism. Liberalism is literally killing them in large numbers.


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