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Romney’s best choices for Veep

by Speranza ( 144 Comments › )
Filed under Elections 2012, Mitt Romney at April 12th, 2012 - 2:30 pm

I know Pawlentey is not very exciting but he would probably be the safe, reliable bet – although with Obama running again we might need someone with a bit more pizzazz.  No way Huckabee or Santorum would do, and don’t even think abut picking anyone with the last name “Bush”.

by Hugh Hewitt

With Mitt Romney all but universally acknowledged as the GOP certain nominee, attention has quickly and rightly turned to speculation about the former Massachusetts governor’s running mate.

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The latter consideration is what Romney has often said will guide his deliberations, and anyone with even a passing knowledge of Romney’s earnestness accepts this as a given. There are thus three names which have to be at the top of “the list” along with the usual suspects of Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, Senator Rob Portman of Ohio, Congressman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin and Senator Marco Rubio of Florida. Indeed, there are good reasons for the odds-makers to put these three atop the leader board ahead of those four.

Former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty is to the 2012 GOP veepstakes what Romney himself was to 2008 competition to be John McCain’s running mate: the obvious, safe and in some important respects, a compelling choice to be the #2.

Pawlenty knows full well what the national campaign feels like and requires. His family is ready for it having embarked upon it once. His wonderful and able spouse would be a great asset to the campaign, and his circle of close advisors and supporters is talent rich and very loyal.

Pawlenty also knows how to win blue states and brings a compelling personal story, deft sense of humor and superb media skills. The nay-sayers chirp that he is dull, but dull may well be the new cool in a year in which the U.S.-as-Greece is on many voters’ minds. Minnesota is a reach, but Pawlenty has cross-border appeal in both Wisconsin and Iowa, key swing states.

And Pawlenty has a solid indeed spectacular eight years of governing under his belt, years that included crises like the collapse of the I-35W bridge and many legislative showdowns, as well as many visits to war zones and a superb record on judicial selection.

Next in line: New Jersey’s Chris Christie. In addition to his obvious flair for campaigning and message management, Christie’s issue set is in the zone for 2012: experience with massive deficits and runaway public sector costs, a brass-knuckled willingness to mix it up with the professional left and, often overlooked, a long and very successful tenure as the United States Attorney in New Jersey which would set him up to take on Eric Holder’s abysmal record at DOJ and to anticipate and prep the political battlefield for the election fraud sure to mark the Chicago Gang’s playbook. Christie also has experience prosecuting terrorists and can hold the president to account for his serial pratfalls in this area, and even if New Jersey is thought by many to be out of reach, adding Christie to the ticket instantly stretches the map to the Jersey shore and makes the Romney campaign a very serious player in the Philly media market which helps tilt the already close competition for the Keystone State towards the GOP.

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Like Pawlenty, Christie was with Romney early and all-in. Like Romney and Pawlenty he’s a family man with deep value sets that play across the country. And contrary to what the Green Room elites believe, his girth is a potential connection to ordinary Americans who can look at and listen to Christie and say “regular guy who really gets it.”

Finally, one more hard-to-fathom name for the Manhattan-Beltway media elite: former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, the man with the alleged radioactive last name, who also happens to have the most popular parents in America, a brother and sister-in-law who have the intense loyalty of tens of millions, an extraordinary record as a very successful two term governor of the most important state to the GOP, and a genuine connection with the emerging Latino electorate that no one else who isn’t himself or herself Latino can claim.

And ready to be president if called upon? Is there anyone else in America more prepared for that job on a minute’s notice?

There are many more names on the VP list, from relative long-shots such as New Hampshire Senator Kelly Ayotte, Congresswoman Cathy McMorris Rodgers, New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez and South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley to former Romney rivals Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum.

But these trio of governors with long records of executive experience –and executive success—make the most sense from both a ready-to-be-president perspective and from the campaign manager’s much narrower view as to how to get to 270 electoral votes.

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144 Responses to “Romney’s best choices for Veep”
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  1. Speranza
    1 | April 12, 2012 2:37 pm

    People vote for the guy at the top of the ticket.


  2. RIX
    2 | April 12, 2012 2:39 pm

    In think that Romney should select Megyn kelly.
    It has nothing to do with her looks/


  3. 3 | April 12, 2012 2:40 pm

    Romney’s best bet would be… Allen West… A VP in the campaign trail needs to be a rabid attack pitbull, nobody could fulfill that role better than Allen West.


  4. 4 | April 12, 2012 2:40 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Romney needs something to generate enthusiasm. Without it, he doesn’t stand much of a chance of beating the Obama Machine. Selecting the right VP could generate quite a bit of enthusiasm. Selecting the wrong VP could kill his chances for good.


  5. RIX
    5 | April 12, 2012 2:44 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    You know that he has to look seriously at a female
    running mate, because of the faux Republican War on
    Women.


  6. 6 | April 12, 2012 2:47 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    You know that he has to look seriously at a female
    running mate, because of the faux Republican War on
    Women.

    Sarah Palin??? <—- ducks the incoming hate mail….


  7. 7 | April 12, 2012 2:54 pm

    Romney is in the hole with Women voters and Hispanics. He needs to at elast cut into Obama’s lead with those groups. Susana Martinez would be a good pick. She’s Mexican-Hispanic, from the Southwest and a Women. She also was a DA before she was Govenor, so she’s experienced.
    This would be Romney’s best bet.


  8. 8 | April 12, 2012 2:54 pm

    @ RIX:

    He also needs to do something to try and heal the breach with hispanics. He could do worse than selecting the Martinez woman. She would also bring regional balance into a ticket. Christie is out just for that reason alone. We don’t need a Northeast Blueblood ticket. That is not a path to victory. Romney will probably take all of the States that McCain took. That loses if that is all he gets. He must look at some way to generate more votes in the States that McCain lost. Virginia, Florida, and North Carolina would be where I would start. All three are Southern States, and the South is heavily Republican. Florida and Virginia have Republican governors. I am not sure about North Carolina. The Dems are holding their convention there, so it looks like they will make a concerted effort to keep it in the fold.


  9. EBL
    9 | April 12, 2012 2:55 pm

    I am surprised Hewitt has not mentioned Rob Portman with all the buzz from Major Garrett that it is a done deal. Is Hewitt not a Romney insider anymore? Or is Garrett just wrong.

    I think Portman’s ties to Bush make him a non starter, which is why Hewitt recommending Jeb Bush makes no sense. Everyone (including Jeb) knows he needs distance to do anything.


  10. 10 | April 12, 2012 2:55 pm

    @ RIX:

    See my #7.


  11. 11 | April 12, 2012 2:56 pm

    @ EBL:

    Portman is a Establishment Republican. This pick would doom Romney.


  12. EBL
    12 | April 12, 2012 2:56 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    I love West, but no. He will not be the one. His communist comment the other day, while hilarious pretty much clinched it. Too much risk with West.


  13. 13 | April 12, 2012 2:56 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    See my#7. Martinez is Female, Hispanic and from the Southwest which is a cultural cousin of the South.


  14. EBL
    14 | April 12, 2012 2:57 pm

    @ Rodan:
    I agree. But that is the buzz. I think Portman would be a disaster pick.


  15. RIX
    15 | April 12, 2012 2:59 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Sarah Palin??? <—- ducks the incoming hate mail….

    Sarah has taken enough abuse & she would become
    the national punching bag.


  16. 16 | April 12, 2012 2:59 pm

    @ EBL:

    The Republican establishments doesn’t seem to care about this election. They shove Romney down our throats and if they shove Portman they are asking for a disaster.


  17. 17 | April 12, 2012 3:00 pm

    EBL wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    I agree. But that is the buzz. I think Portman would be a disaster pick.

    Well, the GOP leadership is rather well known for finding the surest way of snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory…


  18. citizen_q
    18 | April 12, 2012 3:02 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Romney’s best bet would be… Allen West… A VP in the campaign trail needs to be a rabid attack pitbull, nobody could fulfill that role better than Allen West.

    I like Col. West. I haven’t heard anything to dissuade me of the impression that he is a man of intelligence, discernment, honor and principle.


  19. 19 | April 12, 2012 3:03 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Portman would be proof that the GOP wants to lose this election.


  20. RIX
    20 | April 12, 2012 3:04 pm

    @ Rodan:
    The MSM would snark that she doesn’t have enough
    experience, but she sounds like she could be a
    strong choice.


  21. coldwarrior
    21 | April 12, 2012 3:05 pm

    how is pawlenty supposed to handle the veep slot when he let bachmann use him as a punching bag?


  22. RIX
    22 | April 12, 2012 3:07 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    You & Rodan make a good case for Susana Martinez.
    If she is going to be on a short list, they should
    get her lots of public exposure.
    They should start with friendly venues like FNC,
    she can deal with the weasel pack later.


  23. 23 | April 12, 2012 3:09 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I think she is the best bet, if she’ll do it. But Romney isn’t listening to me. If he were, he’d be making a better statement on gun control that he has so far. When are Republicans going to realize that being waffeling on the Second Amendment just hurts them with the base? It doesn’t sway “moderates”. Anyone who is on that side of the issue won’t vote for Republicans anyway.


  24. 24 | April 12, 2012 3:09 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Portman would be proof that the GOP wants to lose this election.

    Hmmm… <—- letting my ruthless entrepreneurial side roams freely… On the other hand… If Portman is chosen, the Romney-Portman train wreck might just be the thing to cause Mormans to revoke their ban on alcohol… wonder how much it would cost me to open a discount liqueur store in Salt Lake City??


  25. 25 | April 12, 2012 3:09 pm

    @ RIX:

    She’s the logical choice. Romney dug himself a whole with Hispanic voters and Santorum’s holly warrior stuff damaged the GOP brand with women. Susana will help eat into these 2 groups and bring New Mexico, Colorado and Nevada into Romney’s column.


  26. 26 | April 12, 2012 3:10 pm

    @ RIX:

    Yeah, trusting the MFM was Palin’s second mistake. Her first mistake was trusting that weasel John McCain…


  27. 27 | April 12, 2012 3:14 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Susana is against illegal immigration, but she knows how to make the issue one of legality and not “those evil spics” attitude that the GOP rhetoric on this issue has devolved into. She can cut the legs from under La Raza and the Democratic Party’s propaganda on this issue.

    Plus she is solid in Gun Rights, Tough on crime, is Pro-Life, Fiscal Conservative and a South-westerner (Cousin to you Southerners). Its a no brainer. But does the GOP really want to win? That is the question.


  28. 28 | April 12, 2012 3:15 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    :lol:


  29. RIX
    29 | April 12, 2012 3:16 pm

    @ Rodan:
    I hear ya , but a lot of people willl be upset
    if Rubio gets passed over.
    Think that Rubio would agree to campaign in drag?
    Nah, wouldn’t work


  30. RIX
    30 | April 12, 2012 3:19 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Yeah, trusting the MFM was Palin’s second mistake. Her first mistake was trusting that weasel John McCain…

    The MSM was out destroy her, heck, they went through
    her trash.
    McCain was a terrible candidate & campaigner.
    If the economy didn’t collapse, Palin might have got
    the old fool elected.


  31. 31 | April 12, 2012 3:25 pm

    @ RIX:

    Rubio is needed in the Senate. Plus he’s too much of an interventionist. Its bad enough Romney wants to stay in Afghanistan forever, wants to pick a fight with Russia and supports the Arab Spring. Having Rubio will reinforce the idea that the GOP will start another war. Rubio needs time to get more realistic on foreign policy.


  32. 32 | April 12, 2012 3:28 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I don’t kno wthat Rubio would take it if it were offered. He i s still a fledgling Senator. I don’t know that I’d risk a loss here for what being VP would bring (not worth a bucket of warm spit…)…


  33. RIX
    33 | April 12, 2012 3:28 pm

    @ Rodan:
    I just googled Susana Matrinez, very impressive resume and
    appearance.
    You just know thet the MSM would set out to destroy her
    though, just like Palin.
    This time those big strong Republican men shoul not hide
    behind their martinis & defend the candidate.


  34. Da_Beerfreak
    34 | April 12, 2012 3:29 pm

    What this Country needs is a National Unity Ticket.

    Romney/Hillary 2012 :twisted:


  35. 35 | April 12, 2012 3:30 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Oh, that’ll excite the base… :roll:


  36. 36 | April 12, 2012 3:37 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Exactly. I really believe Rubio is happy where he is.


  37. 37 | April 12, 2012 3:38 pm

    @ RIX:

    I think Martinez can defend herself very well. Plus if the MSM over reaches it could backfire here.


  38. coldwarrior
    38 | April 12, 2012 3:39 pm

    i certainly hope mitt is as smart as his wife.

    this morning, when asked about this kerfuffle from the white house the lesbian hillary rosen, ann shrugged it off and QUICKLY went all james ‘snakehead’ carville on the interviewer and all but said my favorite line in all of politics:

    “ITS THE ECONOMY, STUPID!”

    this is a good sign.


  39. 39 | April 12, 2012 3:39 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    how is pawlenty supposed to handle the veep slot when he let bachmann use him as a punching bag?

    If you look at it from the perspective of being able to step into the office, its not a bad idea. But as you pointed out, he could not handle Bachmann.


  40. Da_Beerfreak
    40 | April 12, 2012 3:40 pm

    On a more serious note.

    Tim Pawlenty is fine if you really want a Green sell-out. Here in Minnesota we call him ‘Mr. Green jeans’ for all his pandering to the Enviro Nuts, i.e. AGW, Cap & Tax, ethanol, wind power…

    The only reason this guy won a second term as Gov is because his opponent self-destructed the last week of the campaign.

    Tim Pawlenty is 100% Establishment Republican.


  41. coldwarrior
    41 | April 12, 2012 3:43 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    What this Country needs is a National Unity Ticket.
    Romney/Hillary 2012

    i got yer unity ticket right here:

    romney -- rendell.

    big ed could send out two thumbs donnie and lennie the trash man to take out any MSM who dont toe the line.

    :lol:


  42. 42 | April 12, 2012 3:44 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Check this out!


  43. Speranza
    43 | April 12, 2012 3:48 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Romney needs something to generate enthusiasm. Without it, he doesn’t stand much of a chance of beating the Obama Machine. Selecting the right VP could generate quite a bit of enthusiasm. Selecting the wrong VP could kill his chances for good.

    I disagree. Romney’s camp has shown a proclivity to attack Obama and not be the “gentleman” that McCain was.


  44. Speranza
    44 | April 12, 2012 3:49 pm

    EBL wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I love West, but no. He will not be the one. His communist comment the other day, while hilarious pretty much clinched it. Too much risk with West.

    I agree. I wish he had not said it.


  45. 45 | April 12, 2012 3:51 pm

    @ Rodan:

    That is something I’ve been arguing for 20 years. The Coors guy doesnt’t shoot a machinegun at the Budweiser guy if they happen to pull into the convenience store at the same time, either. You’d take the motivation for the violence out of the drug industry. Sure, there would be social consequences, but we are already dealing with most of those consequences anyway. Most people who are going to use drugs, especially hard drugs, are going to do it in spite of it being illegal. Legalize it, regulate, and tax it.


  46. 46 | April 12, 2012 3:52 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    That is the Conservative/Libertarian solution.


  47. m
    47 | April 12, 2012 3:55 pm

    VILE

    /no, I’m not surprised


  48. 48 | April 12, 2012 3:56 pm

    @ m:

    No shocker there. How dare she stay at home and take care of her kids. Charles is still defending Rosen, even though she has apologized.


  49. 49 | April 12, 2012 3:58 pm

    @ Speranza:

    We’ll see. The choice of VP is his next big test. How he handles that will determine what the buzz is heading into the Convention, and it will effect how he is perceived by the base. If he continues to tell the base to essentially fuck off, that will depress his turnout in th efall election. Turnout will be key in this election. I think it will be very close.


  50. 50 | April 12, 2012 4:00 pm

    I want to keep Rubio where he is for the moment, the Senate’s important and we need him there. Besides, he’s young; too young to throw him out there less than three years into his first term. He’ll age well, like a fine wine.

    I’d like to see Ryan get the nod. He’s got a knack for the budget and he could be Romney’s point man on that. He’s been in the House for some 13 years, knows his way around and is pretty well thought of. Barring an unforeseen attack, this election’s going to be “about the economy, stupid” and Ryan’s pretty well equipped for that.


  51. 51 | April 12, 2012 4:00 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Romney is telling the base and other constituents to fuck off. It almost seems like he feels entitled to the Presidency.


  52. 52 | April 12, 2012 4:02 pm

    @ m:

    That is just a taste of how nasty this election will get. I fully expect it to be the nastiest election in US history, especially if it looks like Obama might actually lose. If Romney turns out a Bob Dole level of performance, it’ll still get nasty (the Democrats can’t help themselves), but if it is close it will get truly vile.


  53. Lily
    53 | April 12, 2012 4:02 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    You know that he has to look seriously at a female
    running mate, because of the faux Republican War on
    Women.

    Actually that has been ginned up by the media. Most women understand birth control and how to get it free. This is certainly a faux outrage when in reality women are not going to side with bho over this. Not to mention the fact the new outrage againist women now is Mitt Romney’s wife never worked a day in her life, she decided to be a homemaker. If they want to go down this road by all means do it!!!
    Because this will be a huge back-lash against them. Most mothers KNOW being a wife and a mother means you are on call 24/7. You work your hands to the bone keeping the house clean, the clothes clean, tending to sick children, tending to your husband, cooking 3 meals a day, carting the kids to school, sports and other activitys. Most mother’s who HAVE to work are completely divided they would prefer to be able to be tending to their kids the right way and feel guilty. The only women who would EVEN diss a homemaker are ones that have no children and probably no husband.


  54. 54 | April 12, 2012 4:04 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    this election’s going to be “about the economy, stupid”

    Normally it would be, but the Republican Nomination process has pissed off alot of people. Romney needs someone who can cut into Obama’s lead with Hispanics and Women. As much as I like Paul Ryan, he would not be able to this. I think the GOP shoot itself in the foot pandering to extremists in the primaries.


  55. Lily
    55 | April 12, 2012 4:04 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Romney is in the hole with Women voters and Hispanics. He needs to at elast cut into Obama’s lead with those groups. Susana Martinez would be a good pick. She’s Mexican-Hispanic, from the Southwest and a Women. She also was a DA before she was Govenor, so she’s experienced.
    This would be Romney’s best bet.

    I disagree that Romney is in the hole with women. Unless you mean 20 year old women who haven’t a damn clue! This has been a faux outrage that women are against Romney. Not.


  56. 56 | April 12, 2012 4:07 pm

    @ Lily:

    The polls show him losing with Women by about 15%. I have numerous polls and they all show the same thing. The Democrats stepped on it with Rosen’s comments, so lets see the next set of polls.


  57. coldwarrior
    57 | April 12, 2012 4:13 pm

    @ Rodan:

    polls in april are useless in november.

    dont get all worked up over them


  58. Lily
    58 | April 12, 2012 4:17 pm

    @ Rodan:

    You believe the polls?? Gee Rodan who did they ask? Angry child-like women who don’t know squat about life, lesbians, women who hate men (NOW) and college age students?

    This is a faux outrage and the numbers have been made to fit the narrative. Trust me on that. I am a woman and believe me nothing was said to OUTRAGE me. Most women are very smart and know that abortions on demand are evil, they know birth control isn’t expensive. Believe many women are doing a eye roll over this crap!


  59. 59 | April 12, 2012 4:17 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Normally it would be, but the Republican Nomination process has pissed off alot of people. Romney needs someone who can cut into Obama’s lead with Hispanics and Women. As much as I like Paul Ryan, he would not be able to this. I think the GOP shoot itself in the foot pandering to extremists in the primaries.

    Personally, i think that picking “someone who can cut into Obama’s lead with Hispanics and Women” smacks of the worst kind of pandering. I’d rather see someone who can get the job done than a symbol to placate an interest group.

    Seeing how this “First Black President” thing is working out, the American people may be less interested in novelties than in actual competence. Ryan exudes competence.


  60. 60 | April 12, 2012 4:22 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    You have to look out for trends. To dismiss them is suicidal. Romney is in a hole and there’s no getting around that. He starts with highest negative rating of any nominee in recent times. That’s negative personal ratings. That is something to worry about. To be honest Romney brought it upon himself. He has work to do to repair the damage he did.

    I see the hatred of Romney here in Florida, which is why Obama is leading him. I see it and hear it.


  61. 61 | April 12, 2012 4:25 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Susana Martinez is very qualified. She was a DA and then Governor. She has executive experience. We are dealing in realities, Romney is a whole with 2 crucial groups. She would not be window dressing, she is prepared. I like Ryan, but in this election cycle, teh GOP shot itself in the foot with alot of demographics.


  62. Lily
    62 | April 12, 2012 4:28 pm

    @ Rodan:

    That is Florida…not the rest of the United States. I honestly see no hatred towards Romney and I live in a heavily Catholic State!

    No Romney hasn’t fired the base up…but wait and see. You are too worried about what women are thinking. The polls are skewed. Really they are. You are seeing it from the Hispanic base and I agree that area has a right to be angry with the Republicans. But here in Louisiana the Hispanics aren’t angry.


  63. coldwarrior
    63 | April 12, 2012 4:28 pm

    @ Rodan:

    no, i have to look at data, the qualtiy of the data, and then maybe the trend. i’ll look at trend when we are in september or so.

    right now, polls arent worth the time to read them


  64. Lily
    64 | April 12, 2012 4:30 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    no, i have to look at data, the qualtiy of the data, and then maybe the trend. i’ll look at trend when we are in september or so.

    right now, polls arent worth the time to read them

    Especially on the women hating Romney thing. That is truly skewed.


  65. 65 | April 12, 2012 4:31 pm

    @ Lily:
    @ coldwarrior:
    @ Rodan:

    Read this.

    I am seeing this here in Florida. Dismiss my warning if you want. I am just reporting reality from a crucial swing state.


  66. coldwarrior
    66 | April 12, 2012 4:36 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:
    @ coldwarrior:
    @ Rodan:
    Read this.
    I am seeing this here in Florida. Dismiss my warning if you want. I am just reporting reality from a crucial swing state.

    worthless data that has no bearing on the situation at hand in real time

    keep reading…the truth is halfway down the page:

    weak correlation at best certainly is not causation:

    Saying only two out of six went on to win is a little misleading, though. There are two pairs of candidates who ran against each other (Gore/Bush and McCain/Obama), so the best possible result would have been four out of six winning. That being said, two out of four isn’t a great track record.

    Also, I don’t get why this only looks at the polling numbers starting in 1996. Surely this sort of polling existed before then, right? Does the pattern hold true before then?

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    They started in 1996 because Bill Clinton and George HW Bush in 1992 both break the pattern.


  67. coldwarrior
    67 | April 12, 2012 4:38 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    I am just reporting reality from a crucial swing state.

    the election isnt for 6months plus.

    6 months is eons in politics. the way you are reading bad data and talking the gop might as well not even bother running anyone at this point. just roll over and die i guess.


  68. Lily
    68 | April 12, 2012 4:38 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Not saying he isn’t in a weak postition. Thing is this is April.
    Who are they asking too?
    There are plenty of people who are completely fed up with bho and that it is going to make a difference.
    The quiet majority is the largest majority.
    You are heavily into the political scene … most people aren’t.
    Not to mention the most people who ‘aren’t heavily into the political scene’ are actually saying things about what is going in this country.
    They aren’t saying it in the media, they aren’t saying it on TV, they aren’t saying it in the newspapers. They are talking about it with the average joe on the street, their friends, their neighbors. This block of voters is the largest block and they aren’t happy at all.


  69. 69 | April 12, 2012 4:42 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:
    @ coldwarrior:
    @ Rodan:

    Read this.

    I am seeing this here in Florida. Dismiss my warning if you want. I am just reporting reality from a crucial swing state.

    I’m not convinced that Romney picking a woman, Hispanic, black, or a black woman Hispanic is going to fundamentally change the race any more than Palin fundamentally changed the race in ’08. I have more respect for Hispanics and women than to think that they’d fall for that kind of naked patronization.


  70. coldwarrior
    70 | April 12, 2012 4:43 pm

    @ Lily:

    ‘normal people’ dont start paying attention to politics until a month out or so.


  71. Tanker
    71 | April 12, 2012 4:44 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:
    @ coldwarrior:
    @ Rodan:
    Read this.
    I am seeing this here in Florida. Dismiss my warning if you want. I am just reporting reality from a crucial swing state.

    I don’t dismiss your concerns, hell Romney has a long way to go to win my vote.
    I do know, that women for the most part vote economics. I can’t speak to the Hispanic concern, and I’m sure they are pissed (your words).
    Serious question for you though. Where has the right so demonized the Hispanics? Was it the Immigration Reform? Should we have caved on the amnesty bill?


  72. 72 | April 12, 2012 4:45 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I am just pointing out that Obama is not easy to beat. He is a symbol and the only way to defeat him is my destroying Obama the man. We are not dealing with a normal politician here. Too many on the Right think this will be a cakewalk. This is not 1980. We are dealing with a force of nature and our candidate is not liked.


  73. coldwarrior
    73 | April 12, 2012 4:47 pm

    @ Rodan:

    and its only april….april.

    you are going to drive yourself nuts with polls if you keep this up.

    now go have a beer and some wings and go watch some sports. shut yer brain off! it is going to overheat and explode! then what are you going to do?

    :lol:


  74. 74 | April 12, 2012 4:48 pm

    Gawd, all this talk about identity politics and balancing interest groups makes me feel like I inadvertently walked into a meeting of the DNC…..


  75. Lily
    75 | April 12, 2012 4:48 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Excatly and this is the largest block of voters. bho is wrapping rope around his neck daily, his agenda is completely unhidden, people are noticing his weak policies and they are noticing the price of gas and the price of food has kept going up and up and up under him.

    Take for instance sure the democrats went for obama here in Louisiana a few weeks ago. The catch here is only 11% of democrats showed up to vote! That is very weak!


  76. 76 | April 12, 2012 4:49 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    I am just pointing out that Obama is not easy to beat. He is a symbol and the only way to defeat him is my destroying Obama the man. We are not dealing with a normal politician here. Too many on the Right think this will be a cakewalk. This is not 1980. We are dealing with a force of nature and our candidate is not liked.

    Huh? I don’t think anyone thinks this is going to be a cakewalk.


  77. Da_Beerfreak
    77 | April 12, 2012 4:50 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Gawd, all this talk about identity politics and balancing interest groups makes me feel like I inadvertently walked into a meeting of the DNC…..

    Ain’t dat da truth… :roll:


  78. 78 | April 12, 2012 4:53 pm

    @ Tanker:

    Many on the Right think Hispanic=illegal. Instead of treating it as legal issue, it became a way to blame all of America’s ills on us. The Republicans have given up on the Hispanic vote, the same way Democrats have given up on the White working class. We are constantly demonized and Hispanics like me are lumped in with Meso-American Indians from Central America. Many find it insulting and don’t like to viewed as the enemy, yet Muslims get their asses kissed.

    Plus many Republicans had a meltdown with the term White Hispanic. Most Hispanics consider themselves white according to the census. It was very insulting to hear people on my side say White Hispanics don’t exist. It was White Hispanics who started the whole Hispanic culture anyway.

    The Immigration situation has changed also.

    Republicans need a public relation firm.


  79. Lily
    79 | April 12, 2012 4:53 pm

    @ Rodan:

    No he is not going to be easy to beat simply for the fact of ‘voter fraud’. He holds no water with a lot of Americans. You are looking at the lunatic fringe type of people who are for him.
    I tell you what start asking women here on this blog and in real life if they have been ‘offended’. A mother, not a college age student or a lesbian or a NOW woman.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<< slids a beer to you! :)


  80. citizen_q
    80 | April 12, 2012 4:54 pm

    O/T, saw this over at Atlas Shrugs:

    Over 200 Jewish Students Receive Mock ‘Eviction Notices’

    Over two hundred Jewish students at Florida Atlantic University’s (FAU) Boca Raton campus received fake “eviction notices” from the anti-Israel group, ‘Students for Justice in Palestine,’ last Friday, the Sun Sentinel reported.

    I wonder how they found out the faith of these students?

    The ‘Students for Justice in Palestine’ (SJP) sought to use this ploy to draw attention to their claim that Israel’s “occupation of Palestine” results in the demolition of “Palestinian” homes.

    No, it use of paleosimian homes as bases for terror attacks or weapons smuggling that results in their demolition.


  81. 81 | April 12, 2012 4:54 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    You have been missing around here. Many think Obama is Carter.


  82. 82 | April 12, 2012 4:55 pm

    @ Lily:

    I;’m just reporting what I see in Florida. It doesn’t look good right. But its 6 months, so hoepfully the GOP gets a Madison ave PR firm.


  83. 83 | April 12, 2012 4:57 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    The GOP engages in Identity politics also. Both parties play a game of turning Americans against each other.

    I have to be back later. I have to pack more of my stuff. i am moving to Miami on Saturday.


  84. 84 | April 12, 2012 4:58 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Hey when you get death threats it dioes get you paranopid.

    On a serious note, the GOP needs a Public relations firm. I’m dead serious.


  85. Lily
    85 | April 12, 2012 5:02 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Rodan there is always hope! Don’t ever, ever give up on that even to the last minute. In the event bho actually does get a second term then you can rage against the machine. But until then keep the faith.
    I know you want another Reagan. But times have changed. The pc crap that has been forced fed to us is finally floating to the top and reaching a boiling point. This country is at a crossroads right now.
    But you have to keep the faith! Always. No I agree bho is nothing like Carter he is a whole different animal. Don’t think that people aren’t noticing. The American people are slow to rise…but there is a rumbling going on that cannot be dismissed.


  86. Lily
    86 | April 12, 2012 5:04 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    Hey when you get death threats it dioes get you paranopid.

    On a serious note, the GOP needs a Public relations firm. I’m dead serious.

    I think these death threats have you unnerved as it would me. So sorry you are going through this. Really I am. God-speed Rodan, God-speed.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<< here have another beer! :)


  87. 87 | April 12, 2012 5:08 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Tanker:

    Many on the Right think Hispanic=illegal. Instead of treating it as legal issue, it became a way to blame all of America’s ills on us. The Republicans have given up on the Hispanic vote, the same way Democrats have given up on the White working class. We are constantly demonized and Hispanics like me are lumped in with Meso-American Indians from Central America. Many find it insulting and don’t like to viewed as the enemy, yet Muslims get their asses kissed.

    Plus many Republicans had a meltdown with the term White Hispanic. Most Hispanics consider themselves white according to the census. It was very insulting to hear people on my side say White Hispanics don’t exist. It was White Hispanics who started the whole Hispanic culture anyway.

    The Immigration situation has changed also.

    Republicans need a public relation firm.

    With all due respect, Rodan, you devote more time and energy to the whole ‘Hispanic’ thing than it deserves. Out here in flyover country, if you said “We are constantly demonized and Hispanics like me are lumped in with Meso-American Indians from Central America” I, and pretty much everyone I know would look at you, puzzled, and say “Huh?”

    We really don’t think about it that much.


  88. Canoe Convoy
    88 | April 12, 2012 5:09 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    You know that he has to look seriously at a female
    running mate, because of the faux Republican War on
    Women.

    Sarah Palin??? <—- ducks the incoming hate mail….

    Depends. I think some folks would put on a parade in her presence.


  89. Tanker
    89 | April 12, 2012 5:13 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    Many on the Right think Hispanic=illegal. Instead of treating it as legal issue, it became a way to blame all of America’s ills on us. The Republicans have given up on the Hispanic vote, the same way Democrats have given up on the White working class. We are constantly demonized and Hispanics like me are lumped in with Meso-American Indians from Central America. Many find it insulting and don’t like to viewed as the enemy, yet Muslims get their asses kissed.
    Plus many Republicans had a meltdown with the term White Hispanic. Most Hispanics consider themselves white according to the census. It was very insulting to hear people on my side say White Hispanics don’t exist. It was White Hispanics who started the whole Hispanic culture anyway.
    The Immigration situation has changed also.
    Republicans need a public relation firm.

    I certainly could understand all that if I was in their shoes. Here were I live, we have a large Hispanic community (Mostly year round workers on farms). We may be different, but they are quite involved in community activities and are welcomed! Have to say we are very conservative on most issues and we all get along great. Maybe not the norm!

    As to the White Hispanic issue. My wife’s sister is married to a white Mexican American (although he hates the Mexican American term, he says “I’m American, damn it”). I’ve never seen anyone so pissed at the way the press used the “White Hispanic” in their reporting. Not that it was wrong, but was used to demonized and make the issue more racial than it needed to be.

    Just may be a KY thing though. I’m sure you have a better pulse of the Hispanic community.


  90. 90 | April 12, 2012 5:15 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Just may be a KY thing though. I’m sure you have a better pulse of the Hispanic community.

    Where in KY are you, if i may ask?


  91. Lily
    91 | April 12, 2012 5:18 pm

    @ Tanker:

    Nope not just KY thing. Louisiana is basically the same way.


  92. Tanker
    92 | April 12, 2012 5:18 pm

    Western. (Murray area)

    Have family in Hardin County and I’m up that way to spend time with them on a regular basis!!


  93. 93 | April 12, 2012 5:19 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Western. (Murray area)

    Have family in Hardin County and I’m up that way to spend time with them on a regular basis!!

    Just wondering, I’m in Louisville.


  94. Lily
    94 | April 12, 2012 5:20 pm

    @ Tanker:

    Hardin county? Makes me think of the show “Justified”! ;)


  95. buzzsawmonkey
    95 | April 12, 2012 5:21 pm

    Hilary Rosen, who accused Ann Romney of “not working,” is:

    1) Former head of the RIAA, back when they were doing all the copyright/piracy suits;

    2) A partner in SKDKnickerbocker, where Mao-loving former WH adviser Anita Dunn is also a principal (BTW, SKDKnickerbocker also represents Sandra Fluke);

    3) A frequent WH visitor, including at a highly-LGBT dinner for British PM David Cameron, which she attended with (drumroll, please);

    4) Her current partner, Randi Weingarten, who is President of the United Federation of Teachers.

    Clearly, Rosen is part of Big Labia.


  96. 96 | April 12, 2012 5:23 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Big Labia

    Gawd, i nearly spit beer all over my nice new MacBook! :D


  97. Tanker
    97 | April 12, 2012 5:25 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    Hardin county? Makes me think of the show “Justified”!

    Fort Knox is in Hardin County! Being a Tanker, I spent many moons on that Post.


  98. Lily
    98 | April 12, 2012 5:26 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Ba da bing! Excatly who I would think she was according to her remarks concerning Mitt Romney’s wife. Hardly the average American woman, mother type.
    /most women do not look down on stay at home mothers. Even those who have to work. Only those type of women like Rosen look down on them. *spit*


  99. buzzsawmonkey
    99 | April 12, 2012 5:28 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Excatly who I would think she was according to her remarks concerning Mitt Romney’s wife. Hardly the average American woman, mother type.

    But, you see, as a Lesbian Attack Mom she can complain that any criticism of her behavior is “homophobia,” just the same way that Obama’s peeps claim any criticism of him is “racist.”


  100. Lily
    100 | April 12, 2012 5:28 pm

    @ Tanker:

    <<<<<<< here's a beer to you! Thank-you so much for your service to our country and our people! :)


  101. 101 | April 12, 2012 5:29 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Fort Knox is in Hardin County! Being a Tanker, I spent many moons on that Post.

    FYI, “Justified” is set Halan County, Eastern Ky. Eastern Kentucky is quite a different animal than western Kentucky. It’s a great show. isn’t it?


  102. Lily
    102 | April 12, 2012 5:30 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Excatly who I would think she was according to her remarks concerning Mitt Romney’s wife. Hardly the average American woman, mother type.

    But, you see, as a Lesbian Attack Mom she can complain that any criticism of her behavior is “homophobia,” just the same way that Obama’s peeps claim any criticism of him is “racist.”

    Let here her pull that damn racist card. I don’t know about other people but I am damn sick and tired of it being pulled. I am surely not scared of her. All I see is her bias showing. Sickening.


  103. Prebanned
    103 | April 12, 2012 5:31 pm

    I guess I thought it was racist to divide Hispanics up like that.

    Obama gets to not be White and He is 50% White and raised White.

    I thought Hispanic was a general description of a number of different cultures from Latin America and other places, with some Spanish Ancestry like White is to Northern European and North Aisian folks.

    Heck I don’t know.


  104. 104 | April 12, 2012 5:31 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Fort Knox is in Hardin County! Being a Tanker, I spent many moons on that Post.

    My folks used to take me to the Patton Museum when I was a kid. Being able to climb inside tanks all day was like heaven for a little boy. Good times!


  105. Lily
    105 | April 12, 2012 5:34 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Nope it’s Harlan.

    Justified is an American television drama series created by Graham Yost. It is based on Elmore Leonard’s novels Pronto and Riding the Rap and his short story “Fire in the Hole”.[3] Its main character is Raylan Givens, a deputy U.S. Marshal. The series is set in the city of Lexington, Kentucky and the hill country of eastern Kentucky, specifically in and around Harlan.[4] Timothy Olyphant portrays Givens, a tough federal lawman, enforcing his own brand of (at times extralegal) justice in his Kentucky hometown

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justified_(TV_series)


  106. Tanker
    106 | April 12, 2012 5:35 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    You know it’s gone now, right! Heck, I spent nearly 28 yrs in “Iron Coffins” and still love being around and in them.


  107. 107 | April 12, 2012 5:35 pm

    @ Prebanned:

    “Hispanic” is a language group -- the only one officially recognized by the uS government.

    And E. KY is not a different state than W. KY -- it’s a different planet.


  108. Lily
    108 | April 12, 2012 5:36 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Me and hubby LOVE that show!!! Very good TV series!! :)


  109. 109 | April 12, 2012 5:38 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Nope it’s Harlan.

    Justified is an American television drama series created by Graham Yost. It is based on Elmore Leonard’s novels Pronto and Riding the Rap and his short story “Fire in the Hole”.[3] Its main character is Raylan Givens, a deputy U.S. Marshal. The series is set in the city of Lexington, Kentucky and the hill country of eastern Kentucky, specifically in and around Harlan.[4] Timothy Olyphant portrays Givens, a tough federal lawman, enforcing his own brand of (at times extralegal) justice in his Kentucky hometown

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justified_(TV_series)

    I mistyped, I meant Harlan, not Halan. Tanker is in Hardin County.


  110. Lily
    110 | April 12, 2012 5:40 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Oh dear me my eyes saw Harlan when he typed that! Geez what bimbo! ;)


  111. 111 | April 12, 2012 5:40 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    And E. KY is not a different state than W. KY – it’s a different planet.

    Got that right!

    i live in Louisville and the majority of the state doesn’t really claim us and, only reluctantly, admits we’re part of the state.


  112. Lily
    112 | April 12, 2012 5:42 pm

    @ Lily:

    *pimf* What a bimbo I am!!!

    :oops:


  113. Tanker
    113 | April 12, 2012 5:43 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    @ MacDuff:
    Nope it’s Harlan.
    Justified is an American television drama series created by Graham Yost. It is based on Elmore Leonard’s novels Pronto and Riding the Rap and his short story “Fire in the Hole”.[3] Its main character is Raylan Givens, a deputy U.S. Marshal. The series is set in the city of Lexington, Kentucky and the hill country of eastern Kentucky, specifically in and around Harlan.[4] Timothy Olyphant portrays Givens, a tough federal lawman, enforcing his own brand of (at times extralegal) justice in his Kentucky hometown
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justified_(TV_series)

    I mistyped, I meant Harlan, not Halan. Tanker is in Hardin County.

    Family in Hardin…I’m in Calloway County now…by KY Lake


  114. 114 | April 12, 2012 5:44 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Oh dear me my eyes saw Harlan when he typed that! Geez what bimbo!

    No worries, I make the mistake myself. I’ve lived in KY all my life and I’m pretty much lost when I get outside Louisville city limits. Frankly, I avoid places like Eastern KY, but that’s just me.


  115. 115 | April 12, 2012 5:46 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Family in Hardin…I’m in Calloway County now…by KY Lake

    Too many damned counties in this state, I can’t keep ‘em straight. I think I heard that KY has more counties per capita than any state in the country…..or close to it.


  116. Tanker
    116 | April 12, 2012 5:46 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Mike C. wrote:
    And E. KY is not a different state than W. KY – it’s a different planet.
    Got that right!
    i live in Louisville and the majority of the state doesn’t really claim us and, only reluctantly, admits we’re part of the state.

    It’s a Cat versus Cardinal thing you know! And the traitor Petino


  117. Lily
    117 | April 12, 2012 5:47 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Well apparently ‘Justified’ is right on que with Harlan county then!
    ;)


  118. 118 | April 12, 2012 5:48 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    It’s a Cat versus Cardinal thing you know! And the traitor Petino

    Yeah, i hear ya! ;) Congrats on the Championship, helluva team!


  119. Lily
    119 | April 12, 2012 5:48 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Well we have ‘parishes’ here so I guess we don’t count in the number thing!


  120. 120 | April 12, 2012 5:51 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Well apparently ‘Justified’ is right on que with Harlan county then!

    Yeah, it’s pretty much on target from why I know.


  121. Tanker
    121 | April 12, 2012 5:52 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Tanker wrote:
    It’s a Cat versus Cardinal thing you know! And the traitor Petino

    Yeah, i hear ya! Congrats on the Championship, helluva team!

    It’s hard for me too…Son freshman UK….I’m originally from NC.


  122. 122 | April 12, 2012 5:58 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Well we have ‘parishes’ here so I guess we don’t count in the number thing!

    Yep, the wife’s from N’awlins, grew up in Jefferson Parish.


  123. Lily
    123 | April 12, 2012 6:00 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    This state is unusual for sure. So many different types of people.
    I love it though. So many different accents too. I can tell by a persons accent exactly where they are from in Louisiana. Weird.


  124. Speranza
    124 | April 12, 2012 6:01 pm

    @ Lily:
    Ever been to Shreveport/Bossier?


  125. Speranza
    125 | April 12, 2012 6:02 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Well we have ‘parishes’ here so I guess we don’t count in the number thing!

    and the Napoleonic code!


  126. Brick
    126 | April 12, 2012 6:03 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    You know it’s gone now, right! Heck, I spent nearly 28 yrs in “Iron Coffins” and still love being around and in them.

    No kidding? Which was your favorite?

    Evening, all.


  127. Brick
    127 | April 12, 2012 6:05 pm

    Oh, and Mittens’ best choice? Drop out, let Newt have the slot, and let HIM pick the Veep.


  128. Tanker
    128 | April 12, 2012 6:05 pm

    Brick wrote:

    Tanker wrote:
    @ MacDuff:
    You know it’s gone now, right! Heck, I spent nearly 28 yrs in “Iron Coffins” and still love being around and in them.

    No kidding? Which was your favorite?
    Evening, all.

    Defense = M60A3
    Offense = M1A1

    started out on M48A5


  129. 129 | April 12, 2012 6:06 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    This state is unusual for sure. So many different types of people.
    I love it though. So many different accents too. I can tell by a persons accent exactly where they are from in Louisiana. Weird.

    When I first went down there, I encountered natives of New Orleans who almost sounded like they were from Brooklyn. My wife doesn’t sound necessarily “southern” as would someone from AL, GA, MS, etc. Yeah, it’s definitely one of our most unusual and charming states.


  130. Brick
    130 | April 12, 2012 6:06 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Brick wrote:
    Tanker wrote:
    @ MacDuff:
    You know it’s gone now, right! Heck, I spent nearly 28 yrs in “Iron Coffins” and still love being around and in them.
    No kidding? Which was your favorite?
    Evening, all.

    Defense = M60A3
    Offense = M1A1
    started out on M48A5

    Wow, you really were in the golden era of tanks.

    You have any time in the Starships?


  131. Tanker
    131 | April 12, 2012 6:11 pm

    Not much! great for the computer age youngsters though


  132. Brick
    132 | April 12, 2012 6:15 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Not much! great for the computer age youngsters though

    A tanker has to be the coolest job in the military -- well, that or an A-10 driver. :)


  133. Lily
    133 | April 12, 2012 6:24 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Yep rednecks up there! ;)


  134. Lily
    134 | April 12, 2012 6:26 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Well we have ‘parishes’ here so I guess we don’t count in the number thing!

    and the Napoleonic code!

    I think they have done away with some of that code in the past few years.


  135. Lily
    135 | April 12, 2012 6:28 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Some in New Orleans even sound ‘european’ too.
    Lot of different accents in this state.


  136. Speranza
    136 | April 12, 2012 6:59 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Yep rednecks up there!

    I know a guy who is in the Shreveport police department.


  137. Speranza
    137 | April 12, 2012 7:00 pm

    Brick wrote:

    Oh, and Mittens’ best choice? Drop out, let Newt have the slot, and let HIM pick the Veep.

    Newton P. Gingrich (the 1990′s has-been) will be back on the lecture circuit upping his speaking fees within a few weeks.


  138. Lily
    138 | April 12, 2012 7:15 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Yep rednecks up there!

    I know a guy who is in the Shreveport police department.

    Really? I haven’t been in a long time. Half of Louisiana is Catholic the other half Baptist. We are really a odd state when it comes to the type of people. But I can say this we are the salt of the earth.
    Well in New Orleans it can be a little different. ;)


  139. Speranza
    139 | April 12, 2012 7:41 pm

    @ Lily:
    Never been to Chocolate City.


  140. Speranza
    140 | April 12, 2012 7:42 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    Daniel Boone would be upset.


  141. Lily
    141 | April 12, 2012 7:52 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Never been to Chocolate City.

    Now that is a city to go to! The buildings, the history, and oh did I mention Bourben Street. You haven’t lived til you drink a hurricane!


  142. Speranza
    142 | April 12, 2012 7:53 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Now that is a city to go to! The buildings, the history, and oh did I mention Bourben Street. You haven’t lived til you drink a hurricane!

    Firs thing I do (with apologies to John Derbyshire) is get a map and mark off the no-go areas.


  143. Lily
    143 | April 12, 2012 8:04 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Stick around the French Quarters and go outside New Orleans to River Road and see all the Plantations. I’ve been several times no problem.
    Yes there are bad areas but you need to go out of your way to get there. Plus they have a new mayor and all. Don’t judge it just on the Hurricane Katrina thing. Not to mention there are losts of tours of New Orleans with guides.


  144. Speranza
    144 | April 13, 2012 5:55 am

    @ Lily:
    I know.


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