I know Pawlentey is not very exciting but he would probably be the safe, reliable bet – although with Obama running again we might need someone with a bit more pizzazz. No way Huckabee or Santorum would do, and don’t even think abut picking anyone with the last name “Bush”.
by Hugh Hewitt
With Mitt Romney all but universally acknowledged as the GOP certain nominee, attention has quickly and rightly turned to speculation about the former Massachusetts governor’s running mate.
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The latter consideration is what Romney has often said will guide his deliberations, and anyone with even a passing knowledge of Romney’s earnestness accepts this as a given. There are thus three names which have to be at the top of “the list” along with the usual suspects of Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, Senator Rob Portman of Ohio, Congressman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin and Senator Marco Rubio of Florida. Indeed, there are good reasons for the odds-makers to put these three atop the leader board ahead of those four.
Former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty is to the 2012 GOP veepstakes what Romney himself was to 2008 competition to be John McCain’s running mate: the obvious, safe and in some important respects, a compelling choice to be the #2.
Pawlenty knows full well what the national campaign feels like and requires. His family is ready for it having embarked upon it once. His wonderful and able spouse would be a great asset to the campaign, and his circle of close advisors and supporters is talent rich and very loyal.
Pawlenty also knows how to win blue states and brings a compelling personal story, deft sense of humor and superb media skills. The nay-sayers chirp that he is dull, but dull may well be the new cool in a year in which the U.S.-as-Greece is on many voters’ minds. Minnesota is a reach, but Pawlenty has cross-border appeal in both Wisconsin and Iowa, key swing states.
And Pawlenty has a solid indeed spectacular eight years of governing under his belt, years that included crises like the collapse of the I-35W bridge and many legislative showdowns, as well as many visits to war zones and a superb record on judicial selection.
Next in line: New Jersey’s Chris Christie. In addition to his obvious flair for campaigning and message management, Christie’s issue set is in the zone for 2012: experience with massive deficits and runaway public sector costs, a brass-knuckled willingness to mix it up with the professional left and, often overlooked, a long and very successful tenure as the United States Attorney in New Jersey which would set him up to take on Eric Holder’s abysmal record at DOJ and to anticipate and prep the political battlefield for the election fraud sure to mark the Chicago Gang’s playbook. Christie also has experience prosecuting terrorists and can hold the president to account for his serial pratfalls in this area, and even if New Jersey is thought by many to be out of reach, adding Christie to the ticket instantly stretches the map to the Jersey shore and makes the Romney campaign a very serious player in the Philly media market which helps tilt the already close competition for the Keystone State towards the GOP.
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Like Pawlenty, Christie was with Romney early and all-in. Like Romney and Pawlenty he’s a family man with deep value sets that play across the country. And contrary to what the Green Room elites believe, his girth is a potential connection to ordinary Americans who can look at and listen to Christie and say “regular guy who really gets it.”
Finally, one more hard-to-fathom name for the Manhattan-Beltway media elite: former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, the man with the alleged radioactive last name, who also happens to have the most popular parents in America, a brother and sister-in-law who have the intense loyalty of tens of millions, an extraordinary record as a very successful two term governor of the most important state to the GOP, and a genuine connection with the emerging Latino electorate that no one else who isn’t himself or herself Latino can claim.
And ready to be president if called upon? Is there anyone else in America more prepared for that job on a minute’s notice?
There are many more names on the VP list, from relative long-shots such as New Hampshire Senator Kelly Ayotte, Congresswoman Cathy McMorris Rodgers, New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez and South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley to former Romney rivals Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum.
But these trio of governors with long records of executive experience –and executive success—make the most sense from both a ready-to-be-president perspective and from the campaign manager’s much narrower view as to how to get to 270 electoral votes.
Read the rest – The short-list of three
Tags: Hugh Hewitt, John McCain, Rick Santorum, Tim Pawlentey
People vote for the guy at the top of the ticket.
In think that Romney should select Megyn kelly.
It has nothing to do with her looks/
Romney’s best bet would be… Allen West… A VP in the campaign trail needs to be a rabid attack pitbull, nobody could fulfill that role better than Allen West.
@ Speranza:
Romney needs something to generate enthusiasm. Without it, he doesn’t stand much of a chance of beating the Obama Machine. Selecting the right VP could generate quite a bit of enthusiasm. Selecting the wrong VP could kill his chances for good.
@ Iron Fist:
You know that he has to look seriously at a female
running mate, because of the faux Republican War on
Women.
RIX wrote:
Sarah Palin??? <—- ducks the incoming hate mail….
Romney is in the hole with Women voters and Hispanics. He needs to at elast cut into Obama’s lead with those groups. Susana Martinez would be a good pick. She’s Mexican-Hispanic, from the Southwest and a Women. She also was a DA before she was Govenor, so she’s experienced.
This would be Romney’s best bet.
@ RIX:
He also needs to do something to try and heal the breach with hispanics. He could do worse than selecting the Martinez woman. She would also bring regional balance into a ticket. Christie is out just for that reason alone. We don’t need a Northeast Blueblood ticket. That is not a path to victory. Romney will probably take all of the States that McCain took. That loses if that is all he gets. He must look at some way to generate more votes in the States that McCain lost. Virginia, Florida, and North Carolina would be where I would start. All three are Southern States, and the South is heavily Republican. Florida and Virginia have Republican governors. I am not sure about North Carolina. The Dems are holding their convention there, so it looks like they will make a concerted effort to keep it in the fold.
I am surprised Hewitt has not mentioned Rob Portman with all the buzz from Major Garrett that it is a done deal. Is Hewitt not a Romney insider anymore? Or is Garrett just wrong.
I think Portman’s ties to Bush make him a non starter, which is why Hewitt recommending Jeb Bush makes no sense. Everyone (including Jeb) knows he needs distance to do anything.
@ RIX:
See my #7.
@ EBL:
Portman is a Establishment Republican. This pick would doom Romney.
@ doriangrey:
I love West, but no. He will not be the one. His communist comment the other day, while hilarious pretty much clinched it. Too much risk with West.
@ Iron Fist:
See my#7. Martinez is Female, Hispanic and from the Southwest which is a cultural cousin of the South.
@ Rodan:
I agree. But that is the buzz. I think Portman would be a disaster pick.
@ doriangrey:
Sarah has taken enough abuse & she would become
the national punching bag.
@ EBL:
The Republican establishments doesn’t seem to care about this election. They shove Romney down our throats and if they shove Portman they are asking for a disaster.
EBL wrote:
Well, the GOP leadership is rather well known for finding the surest way of snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory…
doriangrey wrote:
I like Col. West. I haven’t heard anything to dissuade me of the impression that he is a man of intelligence, discernment, honor and principle.
@ doriangrey:
Portman would be proof that the GOP wants to lose this election.
@ Rodan:
The MSM would snark that she doesn’t have enough
experience, but she sounds like she could be a
strong choice.
how is pawlenty supposed to handle the veep slot when he let bachmann use him as a punching bag?
@ Iron Fist:
You & Rodan make a good case for Susana Martinez.
If she is going to be on a short list, they should
get her lots of public exposure.
They should start with friendly venues like FNC,
she can deal with the weasel pack later.
@ Rodan:
I think she is the best bet, if she’ll do it. But Romney isn’t listening to me. If he were, he’d be making a better statement on gun control that he has so far. When are Republicans going to realize that being waffeling on the Second Amendment just hurts them with the base? It doesn’t sway “moderates”. Anyone who is on that side of the issue won’t vote for Republicans anyway.
Rodan wrote:
Hmmm… <—- letting my ruthless entrepreneurial side roams freely… On the other hand… If Portman is chosen, the Romney-Portman train wreck might just be the thing to cause Mormans to revoke their ban on alcohol… wonder how much it would cost me to open a discount liqueur store in Salt Lake City??
@ RIX:
She’s the logical choice. Romney dug himself a whole with Hispanic voters and Santorum’s holly warrior stuff damaged the GOP brand with women. Susana will help eat into these 2 groups and bring New Mexico, Colorado and Nevada into Romney’s column.
@ RIX:
Yeah, trusting the MFM was Palin’s second mistake. Her first mistake was trusting that weasel John McCain…
@ Iron Fist:
Susana is against illegal immigration, but she knows how to make the issue one of legality and not “those evil spics” attitude that the GOP rhetoric on this issue has devolved into. She can cut the legs from under La Raza and the Democratic Party’s propaganda on this issue.
Plus she is solid in Gun Rights, Tough on crime, is Pro-Life, Fiscal Conservative and a South-westerner (Cousin to you Southerners). Its a no brainer. But does the GOP really want to win? That is the question.
@ doriangrey:
@ Rodan:
I hear ya , but a lot of people willl be upset
if Rubio gets passed over.
Think that Rubio would agree to campaign in drag?
Nah, wouldn’t work
Iron Fist wrote:
The MSM was out destroy her, heck, they went through
her trash.
McCain was a terrible candidate & campaigner.
If the economy didn’t collapse, Palin might have got
the old fool elected.
@ RIX:
Rubio is needed in the Senate. Plus he’s too much of an interventionist. Its bad enough Romney wants to stay in Afghanistan forever, wants to pick a fight with Russia and supports the Arab Spring. Having Rubio will reinforce the idea that the GOP will start another war. Rubio needs time to get more realistic on foreign policy.
@ Rodan:
I don’t kno wthat Rubio would take it if it were offered. He i s still a fledgling Senator. I don’t know that I’d risk a loss here for what being VP would bring (not worth a bucket of warm spit…)…
@ Rodan:
I just googled Susana Matrinez, very impressive resume and
appearance.
You just know thet the MSM would set out to destroy her
though, just like Palin.
This time those big strong Republican men shoul not hide
behind their martinis & defend the candidate.
What this Country needs is a National Unity Ticket.
Romney/Hillary 2012
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Oh, that’ll excite the base…
@ Iron Fist:
Exactly. I really believe Rubio is happy where he is.
@ RIX:
I think Martinez can defend herself very well. Plus if the MSM over reaches it could backfire here.
i certainly hope mitt is as smart as his wife.
this morning, when asked about this kerfuffle from the
white housethe lesbian hillary rosen, ann shrugged it off and QUICKLY went all james ‘snakehead’ carville on the interviewer and all but said my favorite line in all of politics:“ITS THE ECONOMY, STUPID!”
this is a good sign.
coldwarrior wrote:
If you look at it from the perspective of being able to step into the office, its not a bad idea. But as you pointed out, he could not handle Bachmann.
On a more serious note.
Tim Pawlenty is fine if you really want a Green sell-out. Here in Minnesota we call him ‘Mr. Green jeans’ for all his pandering to the Enviro Nuts, i.e. AGW, Cap & Tax, ethanol, wind power…
The only reason this guy won a second term as Gov is because his opponent self-destructed the last week of the campaign.
Tim Pawlenty is 100% Establishment Republican.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
i got yer unity ticket right here:
romney -- rendell.
big ed could send out two thumbs donnie and lennie the trash man to take out any MSM who dont toe the line.
@ Iron Fist:
Check this out!
Iron Fist wrote:
I disagree. Romney’s camp has shown a proclivity to attack Obama and not be the “gentleman” that McCain was.
EBL wrote:
I agree. I wish he had not said it.
@ Rodan:
That is something I’ve been arguing for 20 years. The Coors guy doesnt’t shoot a machinegun at the Budweiser guy if they happen to pull into the convenience store at the same time, either. You’d take the motivation for the violence out of the drug industry. Sure, there would be social consequences, but we are already dealing with most of those consequences anyway. Most people who are going to use drugs, especially hard drugs, are going to do it in spite of it being illegal. Legalize it, regulate, and tax it.
@ Iron Fist:
That is the Conservative/Libertarian solution.
VILE
/no, I’m not surprised
@ m:
No shocker there. How dare she stay at home and take care of her kids. Charles is still defending Rosen, even though she has apologized.
@ Speranza:
We’ll see. The choice of VP is his next big test. How he handles that will determine what the buzz is heading into the Convention, and it will effect how he is perceived by the base. If he continues to tell the base to essentially fuck off, that will depress his turnout in th efall election. Turnout will be key in this election. I think it will be very close.
I want to keep Rubio where he is for the moment, the Senate’s important and we need him there. Besides, he’s young; too young to throw him out there less than three years into his first term. He’ll age well, like a fine wine.
I’d like to see Ryan get the nod. He’s got a knack for the budget and he could be Romney’s point man on that. He’s been in the House for some 13 years, knows his way around and is pretty well thought of. Barring an unforeseen attack, this election’s going to be “about the economy, stupid” and Ryan’s pretty well equipped for that.
@ Iron Fist:
Romney is telling the base and other constituents to fuck off. It almost seems like he feels entitled to the Presidency.
@ m:
That is just a taste of how nasty this election will get. I fully expect it to be the nastiest election in US history, especially if it looks like Obama might actually lose. If Romney turns out a Bob Dole level of performance, it’ll still get nasty (the Democrats can’t help themselves), but if it is close it will get truly vile.
RIX wrote:
Actually that has been ginned up by the media. Most women understand birth control and how to get it free. This is certainly a faux outrage when in reality women are not going to side with bho over this. Not to mention the fact the new outrage againist women now is Mitt Romney’s wife never worked a day in her life, she decided to be a homemaker. If they want to go down this road by all means do it!!!
Because this will be a huge back-lash against them. Most mothers KNOW being a wife and a mother means you are on call 24/7. You work your hands to the bone keeping the house clean, the clothes clean, tending to sick children, tending to your husband, cooking 3 meals a day, carting the kids to school, sports and other activitys. Most mother’s who HAVE to work are completely divided they would prefer to be able to be tending to their kids the right way and feel guilty. The only women who would EVEN diss a homemaker are ones that have no children and probably no husband.
@ MacDuff:
Normally it would be, but the Republican Nomination process has pissed off alot of people. Romney needs someone who can cut into Obama’s lead with Hispanics and Women. As much as I like Paul Ryan, he would not be able to this. I think the GOP shoot itself in the foot pandering to extremists in the primaries.
Rodan wrote:
I disagree that Romney is in the hole with women. Unless you mean 20 year old women who haven’t a damn clue! This has been a faux outrage that women are against Romney. Not.
@ Lily:
The polls show him losing with Women by about 15%. I have numerous polls and they all show the same thing. The Democrats stepped on it with Rosen’s comments, so lets see the next set of polls.
@ Rodan:
polls in april are useless in november.
dont get all worked up over them
@ Rodan:
You believe the polls?? Gee Rodan who did they ask? Angry child-like women who don’t know squat about life, lesbians, women who hate men (NOW) and college age students?
This is a faux outrage and the numbers have been made to fit the narrative. Trust me on that. I am a woman and believe me nothing was said to OUTRAGE me. Most women are very smart and know that abortions on demand are evil, they know birth control isn’t expensive. Believe many women are doing a eye roll over this crap!
Rodan wrote:
Personally, i think that picking “someone who can cut into Obama’s lead with Hispanics and Women” smacks of the worst kind of pandering. I’d rather see someone who can get the job done than a symbol to placate an interest group.
Seeing how this “First Black President” thing is working out, the American people may be less interested in novelties than in actual competence. Ryan exudes competence.
@ coldwarrior:
You have to look out for trends. To dismiss them is suicidal. Romney is in a hole and there’s no getting around that. He starts with highest negative rating of any nominee in recent times. That’s negative personal ratings. That is something to worry about. To be honest Romney brought it upon himself. He has work to do to repair the damage he did.
I see the hatred of Romney here in Florida, which is why Obama is leading him. I see it and hear it.
@ MacDuff:
Susana Martinez is very qualified. She was a DA and then Governor. She has executive experience. We are dealing in realities, Romney is a whole with 2 crucial groups. She would not be window dressing, she is prepared. I like Ryan, but in this election cycle, teh GOP shot itself in the foot with alot of demographics.
@ Rodan:
That is Florida…not the rest of the United States. I honestly see no hatred towards Romney and I live in a heavily Catholic State!
No Romney hasn’t fired the base up…but wait and see. You are too worried about what women are thinking. The polls are skewed. Really they are. You are seeing it from the Hispanic base and I agree that area has a right to be angry with the Republicans. But here in Louisiana the Hispanics aren’t angry.
@ Rodan:
no, i have to look at data, the qualtiy of the data, and then maybe the trend. i’ll look at trend when we are in september or so.
right now, polls arent worth the time to read them
coldwarrior wrote:
Especially on the women hating Romney thing. That is truly skewed.
@ Lily:
@ coldwarrior:
@ Rodan:
Read this.
I am seeing this here in Florida. Dismiss my warning if you want. I am just reporting reality from a crucial swing state.
Rodan wrote:
worthless data that has no bearing on the situation at hand in real time
keep reading…the truth is halfway down the page:
weak correlation at best certainly is not causation:
Rodan wrote:
the election isnt for 6months plus.
6 months is eons in politics. the way you are reading bad data and talking the gop might as well not even bother running anyone at this point. just roll over and die i guess.
@ Rodan:
Not saying he isn’t in a weak postition. Thing is this is April.
Who are they asking too?
There are plenty of people who are completely fed up with bho and that it is going to make a difference.
The quiet majority is the largest majority.
You are heavily into the political scene … most people aren’t.
Not to mention the most people who ‘aren’t heavily into the political scene’ are actually saying things about what is going in this country.
They aren’t saying it in the media, they aren’t saying it on TV, they aren’t saying it in the newspapers. They are talking about it with the average joe on the street, their friends, their neighbors. This block of voters is the largest block and they aren’t happy at all.
Rodan wrote:
I’m not convinced that Romney picking a woman, Hispanic, black, or a black woman Hispanic is going to fundamentally change the race any more than Palin fundamentally changed the race in ’08. I have more respect for Hispanics and women than to think that they’d fall for that kind of naked patronization.
@ Lily:
‘normal people’ dont start paying attention to politics until a month out or so.
Rodan wrote:
I don’t dismiss your concerns, hell Romney has a long way to go to win my vote.
I do know, that women for the most part vote economics. I can’t speak to the Hispanic concern, and I’m sure they are pissed (your words).
Serious question for you though. Where has the right so demonized the Hispanics? Was it the Immigration Reform? Should we have caved on the amnesty bill?
@ coldwarrior:
I am just pointing out that Obama is not easy to beat. He is a symbol and the only way to defeat him is my destroying Obama the man. We are not dealing with a normal politician here. Too many on the Right think this will be a cakewalk. This is not 1980. We are dealing with a force of nature and our candidate is not liked.
@ Rodan:
and its only april….april.
you are going to drive yourself nuts with polls if you keep this up.
now go have a beer and some wings and go watch some sports. shut yer brain off! it is going to overheat and explode! then what are you going to do?
Gawd, all this talk about identity politics and balancing interest groups makes me feel like I inadvertently walked into a meeting of the DNC…..
@ coldwarrior:
Excatly and this is the largest block of voters. bho is wrapping rope around his neck daily, his agenda is completely unhidden, people are noticing his weak policies and they are noticing the price of gas and the price of food has kept going up and up and up under him.
Take for instance sure the democrats went for obama here in Louisiana a few weeks ago. The catch here is only 11% of democrats showed up to vote! That is very weak!
Rodan wrote:
Huh? I don’t think anyone thinks this is going to be a cakewalk.
MacDuff wrote:
Ain’t dat da truth…
@ Tanker:
Many on the Right think Hispanic=illegal. Instead of treating it as legal issue, it became a way to blame all of America’s ills on us. The Republicans have given up on the Hispanic vote, the same way Democrats have given up on the White working class. We are constantly demonized and Hispanics like me are lumped in with Meso-American Indians from Central America. Many find it insulting and don’t like to viewed as the enemy, yet Muslims get their asses kissed.
Plus many Republicans had a meltdown with the term White Hispanic. Most Hispanics consider themselves white according to the census. It was very insulting to hear people on my side say White Hispanics don’t exist. It was White Hispanics who started the whole Hispanic culture anyway.
The Immigration situation has changed also.
Republicans need a public relation firm.
@ Rodan:
No he is not going to be easy to beat simply for the fact of ‘voter fraud’. He holds no water with a lot of Americans. You are looking at the lunatic fringe type of people who are for him.
I tell you what start asking women here on this blog and in real life if they have been ‘offended’. A mother, not a college age student or a lesbian or a NOW woman.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<< slids a beer to you!
O/T, saw this over at Atlas Shrugs:
Over 200 Jewish Students Receive Mock ‘Eviction Notices’
I wonder how they found out the faith of these students?
No, it use of paleosimian homes as bases for terror attacks or weapons smuggling that results in their demolition.
@ MacDuff:
You have been missing around here. Many think Obama is Carter.
@ Lily:
I;’m just reporting what I see in Florida. It doesn’t look good right. But its 6 months, so hoepfully the GOP gets a Madison ave PR firm.
@ MacDuff:
The GOP engages in Identity politics also. Both parties play a game of turning Americans against each other.
I have to be back later. I have to pack more of my stuff. i am moving to Miami on Saturday.
@ coldwarrior:
Hey when you get death threats it dioes get you paranopid.
On a serious note, the GOP needs a Public relations firm. I’m dead serious.
@ Rodan:
Rodan there is always hope! Don’t ever, ever give up on that even to the last minute. In the event bho actually does get a second term then you can rage against the machine. But until then keep the faith.
I know you want another Reagan. But times have changed. The pc crap that has been forced fed to us is finally floating to the top and reaching a boiling point. This country is at a crossroads right now.
But you have to keep the faith! Always. No I agree bho is nothing like Carter he is a whole different animal. Don’t think that people aren’t noticing. The American people are slow to rise…but there is a rumbling going on that cannot be dismissed.
Rodan wrote:
I think these death threats have you unnerved as it would me. So sorry you are going through this. Really I am. God-speed Rodan, God-speed.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<< here have another beer!
Rodan wrote:
With all due respect, Rodan, you devote more time and energy to the whole ‘Hispanic’ thing than it deserves. Out here in flyover country, if you said “We are constantly demonized and Hispanics like me are lumped in with Meso-American Indians from Central America” I, and pretty much everyone I know would look at you, puzzled, and say “Huh?”
We really don’t think about it that much.
doriangrey wrote:
Depends. I think some folks would put on a parade in her presence.
Rodan wrote:
I certainly could understand all that if I was in their shoes. Here were I live, we have a large Hispanic community (Mostly year round workers on farms). We may be different, but they are quite involved in community activities and are welcomed! Have to say we are very conservative on most issues and we all get along great. Maybe not the norm!
As to the White Hispanic issue. My wife’s sister is married to a white Mexican American (although he hates the Mexican American term, he says “I’m American, damn it”). I’ve never seen anyone so pissed at the way the press used the “White Hispanic” in their reporting. Not that it was wrong, but was used to demonized and make the issue more racial than it needed to be.
Just may be a KY thing though. I’m sure you have a better pulse of the Hispanic community.
Tanker wrote:
Where in KY are you, if i may ask?
@ Tanker:
Nope not just KY thing. Louisiana is basically the same way.
Western. (Murray area)
Have family in Hardin County and I’m up that way to spend time with them on a regular basis!!
Tanker wrote:
Just wondering, I’m in Louisville.
@ Tanker:
Hardin county? Makes me think of the show “Justified”!
Hilary Rosen, who accused Ann Romney of “not working,” is:
1) Former head of the RIAA, back when they were doing all the copyright/piracy suits;
2) A partner in SKDKnickerbocker, where Mao-loving former WH adviser Anita Dunn is also a principal (BTW, SKDKnickerbocker also represents Sandra Fluke);
3) A frequent WH visitor, including at a highly-LGBT dinner for British PM David Cameron, which she attended with (drumroll, please);
4) Her current partner, Randi Weingarten, who is President of the United Federation of Teachers.
Clearly, Rosen is part of Big Labia.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Gawd, i nearly spit beer all over my nice new MacBook!
Lily wrote:
Fort Knox is in Hardin County! Being a Tanker, I spent many moons on that Post.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Ba da bing! Excatly who I would think she was according to her remarks concerning Mitt Romney’s wife. Hardly the average American woman, mother type.
/most women do not look down on stay at home mothers. Even those who have to work. Only those type of women like Rosen look down on them. *spit*
Lily wrote:
But, you see, as a Lesbian Attack Mom she can complain that any criticism of her behavior is “homophobia,” just the same way that Obama’s peeps claim any criticism of him is “racist.”
@ Tanker:
<<<<<<< here's a beer to you! Thank-you so much for your service to our country and our people!
Lily wrote:
FYI, “Justified” is set Halan County, Eastern Ky. Eastern Kentucky is quite a different animal than western Kentucky. It’s a great show. isn’t it?
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Let here her pull that damn racist card. I don’t know about other people but I am damn sick and tired of it being pulled. I am surely not scared of her. All I see is her bias showing. Sickening.
I guess I thought it was racist to divide Hispanics up like that.
Obama gets to not be White and He is 50% White and raised White.
I thought Hispanic was a general description of a number of different cultures from Latin America and other places, with some Spanish Ancestry like White is to Northern European and North Aisian folks.
Heck I don’t know.
Tanker wrote:
My folks used to take me to the Patton Museum when I was a kid. Being able to climb inside tanks all day was like heaven for a little boy. Good times!
@ MacDuff:
Nope it’s Harlan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justified_(TV_series)
@ MacDuff:
You know it’s gone now, right! Heck, I spent nearly 28 yrs in “Iron Coffins” and still love being around and in them.
@ Prebanned:
“Hispanic” is a language group -- the only one officially recognized by the uS government.
And E. KY is not a different state than W. KY -- it’s a different planet.
@ MacDuff:
Me and hubby LOVE that show!!! Very good TV series!!
Lily wrote:
I mistyped, I meant Harlan, not Halan. Tanker is in Hardin County.
@ MacDuff:
Oh dear me my eyes saw Harlan when he typed that! Geez what bimbo!
Mike C. wrote:
Got that right!
i live in Louisville and the majority of the state doesn’t really claim us and, only reluctantly, admits we’re part of the state.
@ Lily:
*pimf* What a bimbo I am!!!
MacDuff wrote:
Family in Hardin…I’m in Calloway County now…by KY Lake
Lily wrote:
No worries, I make the mistake myself. I’ve lived in KY all my life and I’m pretty much lost when I get outside Louisville city limits. Frankly, I avoid places like Eastern KY, but that’s just me.
Tanker wrote:
Too many damned counties in this state, I can’t keep ‘em straight. I think I heard that KY has more counties per capita than any state in the country…..or close to it.
MacDuff wrote:
It’s a Cat versus Cardinal thing you know! And the traitor Petino
@ MacDuff:
Well apparently ‘Justified’ is right on que with Harlan county then!
Tanker wrote:
Yeah, i hear ya!
Congrats on the Championship, helluva team!
@ MacDuff:
Well we have ‘parishes’ here so I guess we don’t count in the number thing!
Lily wrote:
Yeah, it’s pretty much on target from why I know.
MacDuff wrote:
It’s hard for me too…Son freshman UK….I’m originally from NC.
Lily wrote:
Yep, the wife’s from N’awlins, grew up in Jefferson Parish.
@ MacDuff:
This state is unusual for sure. So many different types of people.
I love it though. So many different accents too. I can tell by a persons accent exactly where they are from in Louisiana. Weird.
@ Lily:
Ever been to Shreveport/Bossier?
Lily wrote:
and the Napoleonic code!
Tanker wrote:
No kidding? Which was your favorite?
Evening, all.
Oh, and Mittens’ best choice? Drop out, let Newt have the slot, and let HIM pick the Veep.
Brick wrote:
Defense = M60A3
Offense = M1A1
started out on M48A5
Lily wrote:
When I first went down there, I encountered natives of New Orleans who almost sounded like they were from Brooklyn. My wife doesn’t sound necessarily “southern” as would someone from AL, GA, MS, etc. Yeah, it’s definitely one of our most unusual and charming states.
Tanker wrote:
Wow, you really were in the golden era of tanks.
You have any time in the Starships?
Not much! great for the computer age youngsters though
Tanker wrote:
A tanker has to be the coolest job in the military -- well, that or an A-10 driver.
@ Speranza:
Yep rednecks up there!
Speranza wrote:
I think they have done away with some of that code in the past few years.
@ MacDuff:
Some in New Orleans even sound ‘european’ too.
Lot of different accents in this state.
Lily wrote:
I know a guy who is in the Shreveport police department.
Brick wrote:
Newton P. Gingrich (the 1990′s has-been) will be back on the lecture circuit upping his speaking fees within a few weeks.
Speranza wrote:
Really? I haven’t been in a long time. Half of Louisiana is Catholic the other half Baptist. We are really a odd state when it comes to the type of people. But I can say this we are the salt of the earth.
Well in New Orleans it can be a little different.
@ Lily:
Never been to Chocolate City.
@ MacDuff:
Daniel Boone would be upset.
Speranza wrote:
Now that is a city to go to! The buildings, the history, and oh did I mention Bourben Street. You haven’t lived til you drink a hurricane!
Lily wrote:
Firs thing I do (with apologies to John Derbyshire) is get a map and mark off the no-go areas.
@ Speranza:
Stick around the French Quarters and go outside New Orleans to River Road and see all the Plantations. I’ve been several times no problem.
Yes there are bad areas but you need to go out of your way to get there. Plus they have a new mayor and all. Don’t judge it just on the Hurricane Katrina thing. Not to mention there are losts of tours of New Orleans with guides.
@ Lily:
I know.