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Barack Obama Advocates For The Flat Tax, Albeit Accidentally

by Flyovercountry ( 33 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Economy, taxation at April 13th, 2012 - 2:00 pm

Many folks were outraged yesterday at Barack Obama once again claiming himself to be the heir apparent to the Reagan Legacy. I too was stricken with the sudden urge to vomit. Then I realized something, and I almost have the feeling that I am somewhat alone with this particular epiphany.

If you think about it, perhaps he is taking up the Reagan belief in a Flat Tax. Barack Obama feels as though out of a matter of fairness, all Americans should be taxed at the same tax rate. What we disagree on is the percentage of that rate, common ground at last. I too feel that it is wrong that 47% of Americans pay no federal tax on their incomes. I just happen to feel that the government would get by just swell by confiscating say, 10% of our wages, and say 10% of corporate net profit, zero from passive incomes, 10% from capital gains. Barack Obama is right, albeit accidentally, that secretaries should pay the same rates as their bosses, pro athletes, entertainers, truck drivers, and any other profession I do not have ample space to write out within the confines of this post. Welcome to the flat tax universe Mr. President.

Barack Obama has spent his entire adult, and as far as I know, his adolescent life, denigrating the legacy of Ronald Reagan. That this little man’s accomplishment would not even compare favorably to the most insignificant footnotes on the life of Ronald Reagan, he managed to squeeze out two autobiographies before the age of 50. Some have labeled this as proof of his narcissism, but I myself merely believe it to be wishful thinking. Most of the Conservatives in this country find it appalling that President Obama is working so hard to wrap himself in the cloak of Ronald Reagan, correctly positing the idea that Barack Obama is not even fit to stand in the same room where Reagan’s name is even mentioned, but I disagree slightly. I find it to be a confidence builder in the idea that come November, he will be fired by the American People.

Why would a man spent his entire life telling any one who would listen that our greatest President was an evil man who’s policies were responsible for the destruction of our urban everything, and then just when two elections were heating up, wrap himself in that very flag that he so eloquently tried to burn. The reason of course is plain to see. It is because he correctly believes that if the American People will identify him as Reaganesque, he stands a greater chance of being reelected. This is a sure sign of desperation, and it will work exactly as well in 2012 as it did in 2010. The American People are really a smart bunch, and while it is possible to trick them into drinking a swallow of snake oil, getting them to take that second swig is an entirely different matter.

Putting aside for the moment Obama’s sudden affinity for the flat tax, which a lot of us on the political right happen to agree with, I have often been interested in what Ronald Reagan would actually have to say to our 44th President. Since Barack Obama was nothing more than a pimple afflicting the world of academia when Reagan was the leader of the free world, putting an end to the Soviet Union and winning the Cold War, creating the greatest economic boom our nation has ever known, ending the Johnson-Nixon-Carter Malaise, building our missile defense shield, and a plethora of other accomplishments too numerous to mention here, no such debate exists for real. What I did find was a string of debate quotes that Reagan had said while debating another Presidential candidate who really is a role model for our current chief executive.

Just for fun, let’s watch the entire final debate between Jimmy Carter, (the man who is really the model for our current POTUS,) and Ronald Reagan.

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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33 Responses to “Barack Obama Advocates For The Flat Tax, Albeit Accidentally”
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  1. waldensianspirit
    1 | April 13, 2012 2:03 pm

    Flat as in 70%


  2. pat
    2 | April 13, 2012 2:35 pm

    This dolt will babble anything, knowing that the media will take it as a sign of genius.


  3. 3 | April 13, 2012 2:36 pm

    This is a bit of a stretch. The outrage is that Buffet paid a lower tax rate than is secretary.
    Obama does not want everybody to be taxed at the same rate. He wants the rich to be taxed at a higher rate. What he wants is the ultimate eradication of the distinction between income and capital gains tax rates. His Buffet rule is a catchy label for increasing capital gains tax.

    The fairness argument is the fundamental argument for the progressive tax which is the fundamental redistributionist power-tool in the anti-capitalists’ box. The economic principle misapplied to bolstering it is the marginal declining utility of money (the rich won’t feel the high tax). Equality is the political principle which first destroys the economy, then democracy.

    “Soak the rich” has now become entrenched as a moral imperative. Once the stupid becomes good, there is no turning back. This election will decide whether a return to rationality is possible.


  4. 4 | April 13, 2012 2:38 pm

    @ pat:

    But will the voters buy what he is selling? That is the question, and I am not reassured by the polls. Polls tend to over-sample Democrats, but I am shocked that his approval rating is above 40%. He has been God-awful. Of course, it doesn’t help that the Stupid Party doesn’t attack him the way that they should. Politics is War, but the GOP still wants to act like it is a Marquis of Queensbury Rules boxing match.


  5. 5 | April 13, 2012 2:39 pm

    But but but… flyover… Reagan was like evil and stuff… why would Obama (pig piss be upon him) want people to think his is teh Evil?


  6. pat
    6 | April 13, 2012 2:44 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    the ABC/Washington Post poll was particularly interesting. It showed Obama 6 points ahead of Romney. However the internals showed Obama behind in every major category. That is not sustainable even with data manipulation designed to infer that people just love Obama and hence we should also.


  7. 7 | April 13, 2012 2:47 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Obama is symbol to many Americans. he’s an political messiah who has come to take away America’s sins.


  8. MikeA
    8 | April 13, 2012 2:50 pm

    @ pat:

    Wait, are you saying the MSM would intentionally lie and mislead us? ;)


  9. 9 | April 13, 2012 2:52 pm

    For decades, the bleat from the Left has been “you can’t legislate morality” yet a progressive tax code attempts to do exactly that, in the Left’s stilted view of “morality”.

    For better or worse, we have a wildly successful venture capitalist as our candidate. I say ram unapologetic capitalism down their throat -- let’s have “the conversation” regarding the relative values of capitalism and socialism not only to the rich, but to the common man. Americans are far more in tune with free market capitalism than Democrats would have you believe.

    This is an eminently winnable argument.


  10. Doppelganger
    10 | April 13, 2012 3:13 pm

    http://freebeacon.com/obama-family-tax-shelter/

    FAIR SHARE FOR THEE BUT NOT FOR MOOCHELLE n’ ME !


  11. 11 | April 13, 2012 3:24 pm

    @ Overlook:
    @ waldensianspirit:

    O.K., so it’s definitely a stretch. But like the woman who agrees to have sex for $1 Million, we’ve established already what she is, now we’re just haggling over price. Maybe he would like to see the flat rate of 70%, and we would like 1%, but now we’re just haggling over price. FAIRNESS!


  12. darkwords
    12 | April 13, 2012 3:28 pm

    There are two impressive and smart governors from South Carolina and New Mexico, Nikki Haley and Susana Martinez. Martinez could also help Romney with the Hispanic vote,.

    yahoo…


  13. darkwords
    13 | April 13, 2012 3:30 pm

    OT: If someone is dumb enough to do this I think the police are doing them a favor by shooting their ass off.


  14. darkwords
    14 | April 13, 2012 3:43 pm

    Proud Mary in Ukrainian I believe.


  15. 15 | April 13, 2012 3:46 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ Overlook:
    @ waldensianspirit:

    O.K., so it’s definitely a stretch. But like the woman who agrees to have sex for $1 Million, we’ve established already what she is, now we’re just haggling over price. Maybe he would like to see the flat rate of 70%, and we would like 1%, but now we’re just haggling over price. FAIRNESS!

    Well said. Envy is the kryptonite of the American free market system -- there is a good reason why it’s one of the “seven deadly sins”. For our entire history, the rich have lived in relative harmony with the poor because a degree of financial success is available to all. Legality is one thing, but once you assign monetary limitations on wealth “fairness”, the system quickly erodes.


  16. yenta-fada
    16 | April 13, 2012 4:14 pm

    Oooo, fun. Don’t know this site though.

    http://www.opinion-maker.org/2012/04/obama-and-hillary/#


  17. Buckeye Abroad
    17 | April 13, 2012 4:15 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Exactly.


  18. RIX
    18 | April 13, 2012 4:16 pm

    I believe that Hannity played the clip, but it
    could have been Limbaugh.
    BHO was recounting how his Columbia classmates were
    asking him about his plans to be a Community Organizer.
    He said,”I am not really sure what it is, but I can
    fight the evil that Reagan & his minions do.”


  19. citizen_q
    19 | April 13, 2012 4:22 pm

    @ RIX:
    I must have missed that, but how can someone plan to be something, not knowing what that thing is, and then say what can be done in that capacity?

    As Robot from Lost In Space used to say, “That does not compute”.


  20. yenta-fada
    20 | April 13, 2012 4:34 pm

    One month old, but when you are rapidly losing your tax revenue, the government can’t get paid.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/03/13/exodus-california-tax-revenue-plunges-by-22


  21. citizen_q
    21 | April 13, 2012 4:39 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Perhaps they can start taxing people on other states? /

    Oh, wait! They will. They will ask for a federal bailout.


  22. Canoe Convoy
    22 | April 13, 2012 4:43 pm

    What the Obama Administration really means is that we should pay a flat tax of 100 percent.


  23. citizen_q
    23 | April 13, 2012 4:49 pm

    @ Canoe Convoy:
    Haven’t they been implying just that all along with their attitude of all income belonging to the grabbermint?

    Us peasants should be happy with what they decide they allow us to keep.


  24. RIX
    24 | April 13, 2012 4:49 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ RIX:
    I must have missed that, but how can someone plan to be something, not knowing what that thing is, and then say what can be done in that capacity?
    As Robot from Lost In Space used to say, “That does not compute”.

    Because the guy is a congenital liar. I don’t believe
    him for a minute.
    He worked for an ACORN subsidiary & I am sure that he was
    recruited,
    I would bet that he was identified as a Leftist radical
    who could be part of the club


  25. brookly red
    25 | April 13, 2012 5:18 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Canoe Convoy:
    Haven’t they been implying just that all along with their attitude of all income belonging to the grabbermint?

    Us peasants should be happy with what they decide they allow us to keep.

    Should five per cent appear too small,
    Be thankful I don’t take it all.
    ‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
    Yeah, I’m the Taxman.


  26. yenta-fada
    26 | April 13, 2012 5:31 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Canoe Convoy:
    Haven’t they been implying just that all along with their attitude of all income belonging to the grabbermint?
    Us peasants should be happy with what they decide they allow us to keep.

    It is hard to believe, but yes, I think they want it ALL. Not kidding.


  27. yenta-fada
    27 | April 13, 2012 5:33 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    However, like Islam, the Communist parasite will kill the host if allowed to.


  28. 28 | April 13, 2012 5:38 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Canoe Convoy:
    Haven’t they been implying just that all along with their attitude of all income belonging to the grabbermint?

    Us peasants should be happy with what they decide they allow us to keep.

    Should five per cent appear too small,
    Be thankful I don’t take it all.
    ‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
    Yeah, I’m the Taxman.

    The Beatles sounded pretty conservative with those lyrics, didn’t they? What we call “conservative” today, is yesteryear’s moderation -- that song was written when “pop stars” weren’t political tools of the Left.


  29. brookly red
    29 | April 13, 2012 5:41 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Canoe Convoy:
    Haven’t they been implying just that all along with their attitude of all income belonging to the grabbermint?

    well liberals do tent to change their tune when it’s their money in question
    Us peasants should be happy with what they decide they allow us to keep.

    Should five per cent appear too small,
    Be thankful I don’t take it all.
    ‘Cause I’m the Taxman,
    Yeah, I’m the Taxman.

    The Beatles sounded pretty conservative with those lyrics, didn’t they? What we call “conservative” today, is yesteryear’s moderation – that song was written when “pop stars” weren’t political tools of the Left.


  30. brookly red
    30 | April 13, 2012 5:43 pm

    @ brookly red: Oh I hate when i do that, sorry.

    well liberals do tent to change their tune when it’s their money in question


  31. Bumr50
    31 | April 13, 2012 5:50 pm

    Orrin Hatch is so mad that he’s being challenged, he told NPR??

    “These people are not conservatives. They’re not Republicans,” Hatch said. “They’re radical libertarians and I’m doggone offended by it.” So doggone offended, in fact, he’s almost ready to come to blows: “I despise these people, and I’m not the guy you come in and dump on without getting punched in the mouth.”

    Those people…”

    //


  32. Bumr50
    32 | April 13, 2012 6:00 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    OT -- Oh, Canada:(

    WINNIPEG, Manitoba — Provincial authorities have filed an appeal of the sentence given to former hockey coach Graham James on sex-abuse charges.

    James was sentenced last month in Winnipeg to two years in prison for sexually assaulting two of his teenage players, Theo Fleury and cousin Todd Holt.

    In the appeal, Manitoba’s Justice Department says the judge made a mistake in sentencing and overemphasized the significance of prior sentences for similar offenses. The Crown had asked the trial judge to impose a six-year sentence.

    When James was sentenced last month there was widespread outrage from his victims and the public.

    Two years for a kiddie fondler????

    And he’s appealing????????


  33. yenta-fada
    33 | April 13, 2012 6:44 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    One week a few years ago, I wasn’t paying attention, and ZAP Gay marriage was legal in Ontario. (we gots priorities)/


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