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The Year of Apologies for MSNBC

by Speranza ( 165 Comments › )
Filed under Media at April 16th, 2012 - 2:00 pm

Not a good year for PMSNBC but they don’t care.  They will surely double down on the stupid in the coming months as the election heats up.  Notice how increasingly insane their hosts are from Matthews to Sharpton to Schultz to Maddow to O’Donnell.

by Noah Rothman

It has been a fateful year for the cable news network MSNBC. It seems every month, another host – or even the network itself – is forced to apologize for reporting a factual error or overstepping the bounds of responsible commentary.

Mormonism-Is-An-Invented-Religion-Gate

The most recent apology to come out of the cable network at 30 Rockefeller Plaza is The Last Word host Lawrence O’Donnell. On an April 3 segment, O’Donnell characterized the Church of Latter Day Saints as an “invented religion” and said that Mormonism was started by “a guy in upstate New York” who “got caught having sex with the maid and explained to his wife that God told him to do it.”

That understandably offended some, and O’Donnell was forced to publically apologize on an April 11 broadcast. “I am truly sorry if I said something inaccurate about Joseph Smith,” O’Donnell said. “I am happy to provide time on this show to a Church of Latter Day Saints spokesman to correct any inaccuracy.”

But the apology parade only begins there. A quick trip into recent history reveals a troubling trend of apology-worthy offenses.

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The Racist Edit Of George Zimmerman’s 911 Call

On April 3, NBC News itself admitted to an “error” in their broadcast of a misleadingly edited 911 call made by George Zimmerman on the night he allegedly murdered Trayvon Martin. That call, which also aired on MSNBC, was edited to show Zimmerman offering the skin color of Martin unsolicited when in fact the dispatcher had asked for that information. While this admission does not necessarily constitute apology, the concession of an “error” will have to do.

Mitt Romney Is Racist

In December, 2011, MSNBC ran multiple reports based on a bloggers assertion that Mitt Romney‘s presidential campaign had adopted a slogan, “Keep America American” that was originally used by the Klu Klux Klan in the 1920s.

“So you may not hear Mitt Romney say ‘Keep America American’ anymore. That’s because it was a central theme of the KKK in the 1920s, it was a rallying cry for the group’s campaign of violence and intimidation against blacks, gays and Jews. The progressive blog AmericaBlog was the first to catch on to that,” said Roberts during his dayside news program.

On December 14, 2011, Hardball host Chris Matthews delivered the mea culpa for the network. “During the 11AM hour on MSNBC,” Matthews said, “we reported on a blog item that compared a phrase used by the Romney campaign to one used by the KKK in the 1920s. It was irresponsible and incendiary of us to do this and showed an appalling lack of judgment. We apologize to the Romney campaign.” Matthews apology was reiterated by Rev. Al Sharpton on his program which immediately follows Hardball, saying that MSNBC “did the right thing” by apologizing to Romney.

Chuck Todd’s Bad Morning

Also on December 14, NBC News Chief White House Correspondent Chuck Todd was caught alongside Meet the Press host David Gregory just before being called on to the set of Morning Joe delivering a one finger salute to the production staff just off camera. “The camera is always on. A lesson some of us never learn,” Tweeted a chaste Todd. “My apologies. Am personally embarrassed. Was a joke with someone on the other side.”

But perhaps the most egregious serial eventual-apologizer is Ed Schultz, anchor of the primetime weekday program The Ed Show. In the last year, Schultz has been suspended once and forced to apologize no less than three times.

“Rightwing Slut”

In May, 2011, Schultz was suspended briefly and forced to apologize to conservative radio host Laura Ingraham for calling her a “rightwing slut” on the air. He later called his own comments “vile” and offered Ingraham an apology which she accepted.

Rick Perry Is Racist

On August 15, 2011 Shultz aired an out-of-context clip of Texas Gov. Rick Perry describing the state of the nation as being darkened by “a black cloud.” Perry was referring to the economy but Schultz did not air the original context of the clip and presented it as Perry talking about President Barack Obama – Obama, of course, being the black cloud. Schultz attempt to imply Perry was voicing a racist sentiment backfired and he later was forced to admit “we did not present the full context of those statements… It was a mistake and we regret the error.” Rather than admit an unqualified apology, however, Schultz couched his admission of fault in an attack on his opponents by airing the full clip of Perry in context and making the same argument that Perry was, in fact, a latent racist.

Virginia’s Republicans Are Nazis

On February 22, Ed Schultz’s radio producer James Holm issued an apology for comparing the Republican members of Virginia’s legislature to Nazis-era Dr. Joseph Mengele. The entire exchange between Schultz and his producer is too long and obsequious to reproduce here, but it falls more in the category of a “you were offended, so I apologize” apology while still maintaining that Republicans are Nazis.

Ed Schultz’s Union Ties

There are plenty of apparent offenses for which Schultz has never apologized. He never apologized for calling Sen. Marco Rubionot a true American,” or saying the “Republican party stands for racism,” or saying conservative commentators want “Obama to get shot,” or for wondering aloud when discussing Sen. Joe Lieberman’s (I-CT) lobbyist wife if “the word whore applies.”

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Give credit where its due. They do seem willing to apologize when they’re mistakes are caught. But in MSNBC’s year of apologies, some would say its the offenses for which no apology was ever issued that are the most telling and instructive about the culture at play there.

Read the rest – MSNBC’s Year of Ap;logies

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  1. waldensianspirit
    1 | April 16, 2012 2:04 pm

    Barney Frank gonna join them?


  2. buzzsawmonkey
    2 | April 16, 2012 2:15 pm

    Amos ‘n’ BC, broadcasting home of Al “Kingfish” Sharpton!


  3. Speranza
    3 | April 16, 2012 2:17 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    See-B.S.


  4. 4 | April 16, 2012 2:21 pm

    I think I’ve watched MSNBC once, and that was only because it was on in a business I happened to be in. I was greatly offended, though no one appologized to me. MSNBC has every right to produce their propoganda, but they should be held in the same esteem as Pravda and Der Sturmer as propaganda and not news or journalism. ANd that may be a bit degrading to Pravda, to be compared to MSNBC and Der Sturmer…


  5. 5 | April 16, 2012 2:23 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Are you sure you aren’t offending the modern Pravda?


  6. 6 | April 16, 2012 2:35 pm

    @ Macker:

    Probably. I deliberately didn’t include the National Enquirer because it isn’t propaganda and it has occasionally broke stories the MFM won’t (like Rielle Hunter and John Edwards)…


  7. waldensianspirit
    7 | April 16, 2012 2:37 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Yea Journalism is is such a state it is wide open for the tabloids to increase truth


  8. citizen_q
    8 | April 16, 2012 2:39 pm

    When will they start reffering to msnbc as not a “real” news organization, like the do FOX?

    BTW, I’m not a real fan of FOX, but the others are sooo bad in comparison. There’s the basis of an ad campaign, “Watch us, we’re not as bad as the others”, or “We suck less!”.


  9. 9 | April 16, 2012 2:43 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Yea Journalism is is such a state it is wide open for the tabloids to increase truth

    As I recall, within the last couple of years The National Enquirer broke some major news stories. The National friggin’ Enquirer!


  10. 10 | April 16, 2012 2:53 pm

    Regional Head of GSA has plead the 5th to every question asked by Issa’s committee.


  11. waldensianspirit
    11 | April 16, 2012 2:56 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Regional Head of GSA has plead the 5th to every question asked by Issa’s committee.

    Bet “it” took a ton of Valium before the session too


  12. eaglesoars
    12 | April 16, 2012 3:02 pm

    And Mika moderated the White House summit on womyn’s issues. No conflict of interest there, no sireee.

    Also, I watched the segment a few weeks ago when Joe Scar. was INSCENSED that Zimmerman hadn’t been arrested.

    last week he asked that former editor of Newsweek how he thought the media had handled the whole thing (‘over reacted’). Then Joe goes into this narrative that is a complete LIE saying that his only criticism was based on the historical institutional racisim in the south. !!! In other words he didn’t proclaim Zimmerman guilty, he just thought the cops were racist ‘cuz it’s in the south.

    I used to think he was just confused.

    Now I know he’s a liar.


  13. brookly red
    13 | April 16, 2012 3:07 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Regional Head of GSA has plead the 5th to every question asked by Issa’s committee.

    well he said he was going to… so at least he didn’t lie this time :)


  14. brookly red
    14 | April 16, 2012 3:10 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    “We suck less!”.

    the GOP already took that one, sorry.


  15. 15 | April 16, 2012 3:11 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Of course -- that institutionalized White Hispanic racism against Blacks was a national disgrace.


  16. 16 | April 16, 2012 3:13 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:
    Regional Head of GSA has plead the 5th to every question asked by Issa’s committee.

    well he said he was going to… so at least he didn’t lie this time

    Of course what is completely lost on this MSM (but not us) is that a federal employee, paid by tax dollars, is invoking the 5th amendment before a Congressional hearing.


  17. 17 | April 16, 2012 3:13 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Of course – that institutionalized White Hispanic racism against Blacks was a national disgrace.

    Just remember, lying is a feature not a bug for the Fifth Column Treasonous Media.


  18. 18 | April 16, 2012 3:14 pm

    I was going to listen to Hannity today via iTunes radio but….man, I just can’t.


  19. 19 | April 16, 2012 3:18 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Of course what is completely lost on this MSM (but not us) is that a federal employee, paid by tax dollars, is invoking the 5th amendment before a Congressional hearing.

    Between the Secret Service Whoremongers to the GSA, it’s not been a good week or so for Federal Employees.


  20. Lily
    20 | April 16, 2012 3:20 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    When will they start reffering to msnbc as not a “real” news organization, like the do FOX?

    BTW, I’m not a real fan of FOX, but the others are sooo bad in comparison. There’s the basis of an ad campaign, “Watch us, we’re not as bad as the others”, or “We suck less!”.

    Well Fox at least offers different opinions. Liberals and Conservatives can have a voice on Fox. Not to mention bho has degraded Fox News. I have noticed in the past 2 years when I go the doctor or someplace with a waiting area the TV has Fox News on and not the other News channels.


  21. brookly red
    21 | April 16, 2012 3:20 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Of course what is completely lost on this MSM (but not us) is that a federal employee, paid by tax dollars, is invoking the 5th amendment before a Congressional hearing.

    call every single one of them till somebodies lawyer tell one to cut a deal…


  22. Lily
    22 | April 16, 2012 3:21 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Yea Journalism is is such a state it is wide open for the tabloids to increase truth

    As I recall, within the last couple of years The National Enquirer broke some major news stories. The National friggin’ Enquirer!

    No kidding the alien baby tabloid!!! The National Enquirer will break this news stories because the other news outlets will not because it doesn’t fit the ‘agenda’ they want to put out.


  23. brookly red
    23 | April 16, 2012 3:22 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Of course what is completely lost on this MSM (but not us) is that a federal employee, paid by tax dollars, is invoking the 5th amendment before a Congressional hearing.

    Between the Secret Service Whoremongers to the GSA, it’s not been a good week or so for Federal Employees.

    and it’s only Monday ;)


  24. Lily
    24 | April 16, 2012 3:22 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Regional Head of GSA has plead the 5th to every question asked by Issa’s committee.

    Good grief. Yet they have ‘nothing’ to hide. Right. Apparently they have a lot to hide.


  25. 25 | April 16, 2012 3:24 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:
    Of course what is completely lost on this MSM (but not us) is that a federal employee, paid by tax dollars, is invoking the 5th amendment before a Congressional hearing.

    Between the Secret Service Whoremongers to the GSA, it’s not been a good week or so for Federal Employees.

    Try not to think of the Secret Service people as whoremongers and more of, trying to provide an environment where their “Protected Charge” is accidentally assassinated… :twisted:

    In the military I believe you guys used to call this… “Fragging an Officer”… :twisted:


  26. waldensianspirit
    26 | April 16, 2012 3:25 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Between the Secret Service Whoremongers to the GSA, it’s not been a good week or so for Federal Employees.

    They’re having a good time! Get to brag and the populous does not rise up and frog march their drone asses out beyond the DC city limits


  27. Lily
    27 | April 16, 2012 3:25 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    And Mika moderated the White House summit on womyn’s issues. No conflict of interest there, no sireee.

    Also, I watched the segment a few weeks ago when Joe Scar. was INSCENSED that Zimmerman hadn’t been arrested.

    last week he asked that former editor of Newsweek how he thought the media had handled the whole thing (‘over reacted’). Then Joe goes into this narrative that is a complete LIE saying that his only criticism was based on the historical institutional racisim in the south. !!! In other words he didn’t proclaim Zimmerman guilty, he just thought the cops were racist ‘cuz it’s in the south.

    I used to think he was just confused.

    Now I know he’s a liar.

    This really annoys me. Just because someone is lives or works in the south we here are all racists! This ticks me off like nothing else.
    They ‘assume’ since it is a southern state then the cops must be racist!!!! It literally disgusts me.


  28. Lily
    28 | April 16, 2012 3:28 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:
    Regional Head of GSA has plead the 5th to every question asked by Issa’s committee.

    well he said he was going to… so at least he didn’t lie this time

    Of course what is completely lost on this MSM (but not us) is that a federal employee, paid by tax dollars, is invoking the 5th amendment before a Congressional hearing.

    It may be lost on MSM but it isn’t lost on the little people. Why is a federal employee taking the 5th is what is going through most peoples heads. We are paying his salary with our taxes and he is pleading the 5th!


  29. 29 | April 16, 2012 3:30 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Why is a federal employee taking the 5th

    To stay out of prison of course, I think pretty much everyone understands that.


  30. brookly red
    30 | April 16, 2012 3:30 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    /Hmmmm, so when agent “Jones” specifically asks for an Afghan girl it’s not just a kinky thing?


  31. 31 | April 16, 2012 3:31 pm

    Lily wrote:

    This really annoys me. Just because someone is lives or works in the south we here are all racists! This ticks me off like nothing else.

    The paradox of the South is that blacks and whites get along better there than in the North. I was reading something about that very thing somewhere…..and I cannot remember where.


  32. Lily
    32 | April 16, 2012 3:32 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Why is a federal employee taking the 5th

    To stay out of prison of course, I think pretty much everyone understands that.

    Excatly. He should cut a deal and tell the truth. Someone needs to stand up and expose this crap.


  33. 33 | April 16, 2012 3:34 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    /Hmmmm, so when agent “Jones” specifically asks for an Afghan girl it’s not just a kinky thing?

    Not when he does it when he’s suppose to be making sure nobody with a bomb get’s close to Obama. Bomb+Muslim+Obama=Fratricide…


  34. Lily
    34 | April 16, 2012 3:34 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    This really annoys me. Just because someone is lives or works in the south we here are all racists! This ticks me off like nothing else.

    The paradox of the South is that blacks and whites get along better there than in the North. I was reading something about that very thing somewhere…..and I cannot remember where.

    It’s the truth.


  35. 35 | April 16, 2012 3:36 pm

    Lily wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    Why is a federal employee taking the 5th
    To stay out of prison of course, I think pretty much everyone understands that.

    Excatly. He should cut a deal and tell the truth. Someone needs to stand up and expose this crap.

    Cutting a deal means going to prison, remember who is in charge of the Department of Injustice…


  36. Lily
    36 | April 16, 2012 3:36 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Apparently the Secret Service weren’t doing their jobs. It is a rather odd story going with that one.


  37. Lily
    37 | April 16, 2012 3:38 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    True. Are they that afraid of him when they could actually take him down with the truth??


  38. 38 | April 16, 2012 3:38 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Apparently the Secret Service weren’t doing their jobs. It is a rather odd story going with that one.

    I guess that depends on how you define “Doing their Job”…


  39. eaglesoars
    39 | April 16, 2012 3:39 pm

    Lily wrote:

    This really annoys me. Just because someone is lives or works in the south we here are all racists! This ticks me off like nothing else.
    They ‘assume’ since it is a southern state then the cops must be racist!!!! It literally disgusts me.

    Not only that -- Joe was referring to Florida. To me, Florida is not culturally southern, like Louisanna or the Carolinas -- or Virginia for that matter.


  40. 40 | April 16, 2012 3:40 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    True. Are they that afraid of him when they could actually take him down with the truth??

    When you are a corrupt organization, the very last thing you want is someone going around telling the truth about your organization where that truth will be publicly recorded.


  41. Lily
    41 | April 16, 2012 3:40 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    :lol:

    My first thought when that story broke was bho can’t even control his Secret Service detail…never even thought of the other bit about fragging.


  42. Lily
    42 | April 16, 2012 3:42 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    True. Are they that afraid of him when they could actually take him down with the truth??

    When you are a corrupt organization, the very last thing you want is someone going around telling the truth about your organization where that truth will be publicly recorded.

    True. But I hope the truth does come out in one way or another. Especially before the elections.
    /of course I know I’m dreaming. But there is the old saying, ‘the truth will will out’.


  43. eaglesoars
    43 | April 16, 2012 3:42 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ doriangrey:

    My first thought when that story broke was bho can’t even control his Secret Service detail…never even thought of the other bit about fragging.

    To be clear, these guys were not his detail, nor were they the advance team. They were ‘support’ -- manning metal detectors, etc.


  44. citizen_q
    44 | April 16, 2012 3:44 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Well Fox at least offers different opinions. Liberals and Conservatives can have a voice on Fox.

    That is often true.

    On the other hand they could be so much better. I’ve seen stories on the Middle East, or the muslim riots in France as we are coming into another car-b-que season that made me wonder their reporting is being colored by that saudi oil tick who is a major investor in FOX. I think the reporting that I have seen on the trevon martin Zimmerman incident was poor as well.


  45. Lily
    45 | April 16, 2012 3:44 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    This really annoys me. Just because someone is lives or works in the south we here are all racists! This ticks me off like nothing else.
    They ‘assume’ since it is a southern state then the cops must be racist!!!! It literally disgusts me.

    Not only that – Joe was referring to Florida. To me, Florida is not culturally southern, like Louisanna or the Carolinas – or Virginia for that matter.

    Florida is a bit different from the other southern states to be honest. It has a lot of snow birds that live there during the winter.
    Not to mention is very diversive too.


  46. Lily
    46 | April 16, 2012 3:45 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ doriangrey:

    My first thought when that story broke was bho can’t even control his Secret Service detail…never even thought of the other bit about fragging.

    To be clear, these guys were not his detail, nor were they the advance team. They were ‘support’ – manning metal detectors, etc.

    That clears a few things up.


  47. Lily
    47 | April 16, 2012 3:48 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Well there is that old not wanting to appear ‘racist’ and all that is probably tamping them down on stories like that.


  48. eaglesoars
    48 | April 16, 2012 3:48 pm

    Lily wrote:

    It has a lot of snow birds that live there during the winter.

    My parents were snowbirds for awhile until they finally moved to Ocala. So I got to know Florida a bit. But Mom was from New Orleans and I now live in Virginia. Florida just doesn’t have that ‘history’.


  49. 49 | April 16, 2012 3:48 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    My first thought when that story broke was bho can’t even control his Secret Service detail…never even thought of the other bit about fragging.
    To be clear, these guys were not his detail, nor were they the advance team. They were ‘support’ – manning metal detectors, etc.

    And how exactly would someone wearing a bomb get through security. Remember, those Secret Service people are hired to protect the President, not to agree with his ideology or politics. They overhear everything Obama says to anyone. If anyone knows what sort of individual Obama is, it’s the Secret Service.

    Plus, keep in mind Obama’s reaction to this scandal, he KNOWS they were trying to set him up.


  50. waldensianspirit
    50 | April 16, 2012 3:49 pm

    If it weren’t for the cheating on wives or potentially using someone sold into slavery one could make the argument they thought they were there to improve economic trade and commerce


  51. Lily
    51 | April 16, 2012 3:51 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Naw it doesn’t.


  52. 52 | April 16, 2012 3:51 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    Lily wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    My first thought when that story broke was bho can’t even control his Secret Service detail…never even thought of the other bit about fragging.
    To be clear, these guys were not his detail, nor were they the advance team. They were ‘support’ – manning metal detectors, etc.

    And how exactly would someone wearing a bomb get through security. Remember, those Secret Service people are hired to protect the President, not to agree with his ideology or politics. They overhear everything Obama says to anyone. If anyone knows what sort of individual Obama is, it’s the Secret Service.
    Plus, keep in mind Obama’s reaction to this scandal, he KNOWS they were trying to set him up.

    Oh… and Rodan would probably say this is a plot by Obama to make a failed assignation attempt on him look believable. (which is actually not a bad theory)


  53. brookly red
    53 | April 16, 2012 3:51 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    If it weren’t for the cheating on wives or potentially using someone sold into slavery one could make the argument they thought they were there to improve economic trade and commerce

    he/they didn’t pay up… so the headline should be “hope & change goes global”


  54. Lily
    54 | April 16, 2012 3:53 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I haven’t read any deeper into that scandal other than the headlines and some brief snippets. Oh if only Secret Service could tell what this man is like. I don’t know what his reaction was concerning it.


  55. brookly red
    55 | April 16, 2012 3:53 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Oh… and Rodan would probably say this is a plot by Obama to make a failed assignation attempt on him look believable. (which is actually not a bad theory)

    Tyrants often purge their inner circle once the paranoia sets in.


  56. yenta-fada
    56 | April 16, 2012 3:53 pm

    joke break:

    An Englishman, a Scotsman, an Irishman, a Welshman, a Latvian, a Turk, a German, an Indian, several Americans (including a Hawaiian and an Alaskan), an Argentinean, a Dane, an Australian, a Slovak, an Egyptian, a Japanese, a Moroccan, a Frenchman, a New Zealander, a Spaniard, a Russian, a Guatemalan, a Colombian, a Pakistani, a Malaysian, a Croatian, an Uzbek, a Cypriot, a Pole, a Lithuanian, a Chinese, a Sri Lankan, a Lebanese, a Cayman Islander, a Ugandan, a Vietnamese, a Korean, an Uruguayan, a Czech, an Icelander, a Mexican, a Finn, a Honduran, a Panamanian, an Andorran, an Israeli, a Venezuelan, an Iranian, a Fijian, a Peruvian, an Estonian, a Syrian, a Brazilian, a Portuguese, a Liechtensteiner, a Mongolian, a Hungarian, a Canadian, a Moldovan, a Haitian, a Norfolk Islander, a Macedonian, a Bolivian, a Cook Islander, a Tajikistani, a Samoan, an Armenian, an Aruban, an Albanian, a Greenlander, a Micronesian, a Virgin Islander, a Georgian, a Bahaman, a Belarusian, a Cuban , a Tongan, a Cambodian, a Qatari, an Azerbaijani, a Romanian, a Chilean, a Jamaican, a Filipino, a Ukrainian, a Dutchman, an Ecuadorian, a Costa Rican, a Swede, a Bulgarian, a Serb, a Swiss, a Greek, a Belgian, a Singaporean, an Italian, a Norwegian, and two Africans…

    … walk into the Prime Rib Restaurant.

    “I’m sorry,” says the maître d’hôtel, after scrutinizing the group. “You can’t come in here without a Thai.”


  57. 57 | April 16, 2012 3:54 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    If it weren’t for the cheating on wives or potentially using someone sold into slavery one could make the argument they thought they were there to improve economic trade and commerce

    he/they didn’t pay up… so the headline should be “hope & change goes global”

    Well, anyway you look at it, that’s a good headline, since in truth, Hope and Change does mean the locals getting screwed.


  58. 58 | April 16, 2012 3:56 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Oh… and Rodan would probably say this is a plot by Obama to make a failed assignation attempt on him look believable. (which is actually not a bad theory)
    Tyrants often purge their inner circle once the paranoia sets in.

    Hey now… Obama was just in Colombia to score some righteous Coke man… :twisted:


  59. Lily
    59 | April 16, 2012 3:56 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    :shock:

    That’s another way of putting it. Seems to follow bho around though doesn’t it?


  60. eaglesoars
    60 | April 16, 2012 3:57 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    If it weren’t for the cheating on wives

    I was thinking about that. I don’t think many of these guys got much of a “Hi Honey! Welcome home!”

    What anightmare. heh


  61. Lily
    61 | April 16, 2012 3:57 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Good one. :)


  62. brookly red
    62 | April 16, 2012 3:58 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Oh… and Rodan would probably say this is a plot by Obama to make a failed assignation attempt on him look believable. (which is actually not a bad theory)
    Tyrants often purge their inner circle once the paranoia sets in.

    Hey now… Obama was just in Colombia to score some righteous Coke man…

    what? when he could have just called Marrion?


  63. 63 | April 16, 2012 3:58 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Florida is a bit different from the other southern states to be honest. It has a lot of snow birds that live there during the winter.
    Not to mention is very diversive too.

    I’ve never considered Florida to be that “Southern”, in terms of culture.


  64. 64 | April 16, 2012 3:59 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    If it weren’t for the cheating on wives
    I was thinking about that. I don’t think many of these guys got much of a “Hi Honey! Welcome home!”
    What anightmare. heh

    Meh… They’ll just tell their wives it was a failed assignation attempt, cause their wives probably already knew what they were going to try to do.


  65. Lily
    65 | April 16, 2012 4:00 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    I imagine there are some wives waiting with a frying pan in their hands to welcome them home. Not going to be able to come up with a good excuse on this one now will they?


  66. 66 | April 16, 2012 4:00 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    brookly red wrote:
    doriangrey wrote:
    Oh… and Rodan would probably say this is a plot by Obama to make a failed assignation attempt on him look believable. (which is actually not a bad theory)
    Tyrants often purge their inner circle once the paranoia sets in.
    Hey now… Obama was just in Colombia to score some righteous Coke man…

    what? when he could have just called Marrion?

    Would you trust Marion Berry to a) not rat you out, and b) to not overcharge you and sell you bunk dope?


  67. Lily
    67 | April 16, 2012 4:02 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    If it weren’t for the cheating on wives
    I was thinking about that. I don’t think many of these guys got much of a “Hi Honey! Welcome home!”
    What anightmare. heh

    Meh… They’ll just tell their wives it was a failed assignation attempt, cause their wives probably already knew what they were going to try to do.

    Still will not float with the wives. I can hear it now, “You mean you couldn’t do it without HOOKERS????”


  68. brookly red
    68 | April 16, 2012 4:02 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    I imagine there are some wives waiting with a frying pan in their hands to welcome them home. Not going to be able to come up with a good excuse on this one now will they?

    I imagine O will now wear funny para-military type uniforms & have an all female security team… oh wait.


  69. brookly red
    69 | April 16, 2012 4:04 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Would you trust Marion Berry to a) not rat you out, and b) to not overcharge you and sell you bunk dope?

    well he could have has the SS (how ironic) sample first…


  70. Lily
    70 | April 16, 2012 4:05 pm

    Liberals To Ann Romney: Happy Birthday, Bitch. Hope You Die…

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/16/liberals-to-ann-romney-happy-birthday-bitch-hope-you-die/

    Wow! They really are pro-woman/not.


  71. eaglesoars
    71 | April 16, 2012 4:06 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    They’ll just tell their wives it was a failed assignation attempt, cause their wives probably already knew what they were going to try to do.

    Won’t work. At least Spitzer used ‘high class girls. Apparently, the women involved here were street walkers.

    THAT is an insult not to be borne.


  72. brookly red
    72 | April 16, 2012 4:06 pm

    /HEY! I just heard O has called for a special prosecutor…

    Elliot Spitzer!

    rim shot!


  73. brookly red
    73 | April 16, 2012 4:07 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:

    They’ll just tell their wives it was a failed assignation attempt, cause their wives probably already knew what they were going to try to do.

    Won’t work. At least Spitzer used ‘high class girls. Apparently, the women involved here were street walkers.

    THAT is an insult not to be borne.

    damn! beat me by a micro second~!


  74. eaglesoars
    74 | April 16, 2012 4:07 pm

    gotta go


  75. Lily
    75 | April 16, 2012 4:07 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    I imagine there are some wives waiting with a frying pan in their hands to welcome them home. Not going to be able to come up with a good excuse on this one now will they?

    I imagine O will now wear funny para-military type uniforms & have an all female security team… oh wait.

    Will I don’t think Mechelle would like that she would be jealous because of all the women… oh wait.


  76. brookly red
    76 | April 16, 2012 4:09 pm

    Lily wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    I imagine there are some wives waiting with a frying pan in their hands to welcome them home. Not going to be able to come up with a good excuse on this one now will they?

    I imagine O will now wear funny para-military type uniforms & have an all female security team… oh wait.

    Will I don’t think Mechelle would like that she would be jealous because of all the women… oh wait.

    the boots! think of the boots!


  77. Bob in Breckenridge
    77 | April 16, 2012 4:16 pm

    PMSNBC, heartily endorsed by another bunch of losers, the pony-tailed fatass and his dimwitted minions at the shithole aka LGF.


  78. citizen_q
    78 | April 16, 2012 4:22 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    I hate to cast aspersions on the Secret Service, but I wonder if there isn’t so much fire in the belly to protect him. It would not surprise me that the obamas et al treat the help shabbily.


  79. yenta-fada
    79 | April 16, 2012 4:27 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I hate to cast aspersions on the Secret Service, but I wonder if there isn’t so much fire in the belly to protect him. It would not surprise me that the obamas et al treat the help shabbily.

    Remember when Ozero went to a big doner dinner and left before the meal, saying “I have to go and scoop the poop”. Of course he treats them like crap./


  80. Lily
    80 | April 16, 2012 4:28 pm

    More from MSNBC and hits keep coming from them…..

    MSNBC’s Michael Eric Dyson Smears Conservatives As Racists: View Obama Like “He’s a Moron, He’s An Orangutan, He’s An Animal”…</strong

    MICHAEL ERIC DYSON: Right. And — and let’s look at the predictability of the pattern here. It is not the case that young white men in hoodies have been assaulted or who are dressed of the inappropriate fashion. Don’t forget, Bob, that dress for African-American people has always signified beyond fashion or sartorial splendor. How we dress is an indication of where we stand in society. Remember, right after slavery, black people got dressed in extravagant fashion and that caused great resentment to — for white Americans who believed that black people were being uppity because they were trying to out-dress their status.

    Now it is the case that whatever hoods we wear, sagging pants, those become part of the folklore of American racism because it now signifies to white America that this is a hood, this is a thug, and the suspicion that is cast not only on Trayvon Martin. Look at the President of the United States of America. Here is a guy who do it the right way. He went to Harvard, he’s the President. Look at the — the ready — the — the steady stream of racism and bigotry —

    TOURE: He’s threatening Jan Brewer.

    MICHAEL ERIC DYSON: — the — the — the stereotypes that prevail, right, I’m afraid of him, he’s a — he’s a moron, he’s an orangutan, he’s an animal. Look at all of that.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/16/msnbcs-michael-eric-dyson-smears-conservatives-as-racists-view-obama-like-hes-a-moron-hes-an-orangutan-hes-an-animal/


  81. buzzsawmonkey
    81 | April 16, 2012 4:29 pm

    @ Lily:

    Oorang oorang ootang
    Oorang ootang
    He’s so fine…


  82. Lily
    82 | April 16, 2012 4:31 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Hasn’t there been some rumblings concerning how the obama’s treat the staff poorly?


  83. Bob in Breckenridge
    83 | April 16, 2012 4:31 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Liberals To Ann Romney: Happy Birthday, Bitch. Hope You Die…

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/16/liberals-to-ann-romney-happy-birthday-bitch-hope-you-die/

    Wow! They really are pro-woman/not.

    Ann Romney has more class in her pinky than that 250 lb America-hating slob sasquatch has in her entire fat body.


  84. citizen_q
    84 | April 16, 2012 4:33 pm

    Perhaps msnbc if going after the Onion?

    They are certainly a poor parody of what journalism is supposed to be, but then again so is so much of the MFM.


  85. Guggi
    85 | April 16, 2012 4:34 pm

    Am I late with this ?

    GSA scandal: Jeff Neely declines to testify at start of first House hearing

    The man at the center of the scandal embroiling the General Services Administration declined to testify Monday at the first of three scheduled congressional hearings on why agency officials authorized more than $800,000 in spending for a Las Vegas conference.

    Mr. Chairman, on the advice of my counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my Fifth Amendment constitutional privileges,” Jeff Neely said in response to several questions about his role with GSA and whether he was involved in planning the October 2010 conference.

    (…)


  86. Lily
    86 | April 16, 2012 4:35 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    They are constantly bemoaning how the Republicans treat women poorly. When the go on attack in such hateful and vile ways to women. Look how they treated Santoram and his family because they have a sick child, how they smeared Sarah Palin, now this hate-fest on Ann Romney.


  87. brookly red
    87 | April 16, 2012 4:35 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I hate to cast aspersions on the Secret Service, but I wonder if there isn’t so much fire in the belly to protect him. It would not surprise me that the obamas et al treat the help shabbily.

    that is my answer to those who think he is going to declare martial law… it is not going to happen. Those that would be called on to enforce it don’t support it.


  88. Lily
    88 | April 16, 2012 4:36 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Yeah…he’s pleading the 5th. He has nuthing, nuthing, nuthing at all to hide! He knows …….nuthing!


  89. Lily
    89 | April 16, 2012 4:39 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I hate to cast aspersions on the Secret Service, but I wonder if there isn’t so much fire in the belly to protect him. It would not surprise me that the obamas et al treat the help shabbily.

    that is my answer to those who think he is going to declare martial law… it is not going to happen. Those that would be called on to enforce it don’t support it.

    Heaven only knows what they know. They know a lot about who is in the White House.


  90. brookly red
    90 | April 16, 2012 4:39 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Guggi:

    Yeah…he’s pleading the 5th. He has nuthing, nuthing, nuthing at all to hide! He knows …….nuthing!

    He knows the justice dept. will not investigate … if congress dose not move to impeach soon they will lose whatever credibility they have left.


  91. citizen_q
    91 | April 16, 2012 4:39 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:
    They are constantly bemoaning how the Republicans treat women poorly. When the go on attack in such hateful and vile ways to women. Look how they treated Santoram and his family because they have a sick child, how they smeared Sarah Palin, now this hate-fest on Ann Romney.

    Strong are they with hypocrisy! — Yoda


  92. yenta-fada
    92 | April 16, 2012 4:39 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Hasn’t there been some rumblings concerning how the obama’s treat the staff poorly?

    I’ve only read that there’s a high turnover in White House Staff. I’m sure there’s lots of gossip in Washington about this administration that no one dares to print. If it is obvious to us, the staff has to notice. (unless they are all lying hacks) The world leaders have surely seen the reality of this President.


  93. Lily
    93 | April 16, 2012 4:41 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    The world leaders openly don’t have much respect for him at all.


  94. Guggi
    94 | April 16, 2012 4:43 pm

    2012 Pulitzer Prize Winners Announced

    The New York Times won two Pulitzer Prizes on Monday, one for its reporting on Africa and another for an investigative series on obscure tax code provisions that allow wealthy corporations and citizens to avoid paying taxes. But the bigger surprise this year came from new media. Online news outlets The Huffington Post and Politico both won their first Pulitzer Prizes, a sign of the changing media landscape.

    Also notable this year was the lack of prizes in some categories. The Pulitzer Prize board did not name a winner in the editorial writing category and more notably declined to name a winner in the coveted fiction category for the first time in 35 years.

    I could care less.


  95. Lily
    95 | April 16, 2012 4:43 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ Guggi:

    Yeah…he’s pleading the 5th. He has nuthing, nuthing, nuthing at all to hide! He knows …….nuthing!

    He knows the justice dept. will not investigate … if congress dose not move to impeach soon they will lose whatever credibility they have left.

    That is what gets me, Congress cannot be at all happy with what bho is doing yet they are doing nothing, nothing at all!


  96. yenta-fada
    96 | April 16, 2012 4:44 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    The world leaders openly don’t have much respect for him at all.

    There’s no foreign policy. There’s only the Obama election. It’s scary.


  97. buzzsawmonkey
    97 | April 16, 2012 4:44 pm

    Get your brain bleach ready: Ellen DeGeneres and the First Lady swap prom pix.

    From Ellen’s tablecloth dowdiness to Michelle’s side-slit up to the hip…


  98. buzzsawmonkey
    98 | April 16, 2012 4:46 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Congress cannot be at all happy with what bho is doing yet they are doing nothing, nothing at all!

    Sitting on their thumbs and wiggling them isn’t exactly “nothing,” but it’s close…


  99. yenta-fada
    99 | April 16, 2012 4:47 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I wouldn’t be on either side of a bet on a rogue government and an echo chamber media.


  100. 100 | April 16, 2012 4:48 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    I hate to cast aspersions on the Secret Service, but I wonder if there isn’t so much fire in the belly to protect him. It would not surprise me that the obamas et al treat the help shabbily.

    If they don’t have the “fire in the belly’ to protect the President, regardless of who holds the office, they’re unworthy of the Secret Service and guilty of de facto criminal negligence. The assassination talk is a bit much….


  101. citizen_q
    101 | April 16, 2012 4:48 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I am waiting for carney to have a meltdown. That much lying to cover for his boss has to take a toll.


  102. Guggi
    102 | April 16, 2012 4:48 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    What does she wear ? A negligee ?


  103. buzzsawmonkey
    103 | April 16, 2012 4:49 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    What does she wear ? A negligee ?

    Click the link and see. I dare you.


  104. yenta-fada
    104 | April 16, 2012 4:49 pm

    @ Guggi:

    They need to call the Pulitzer Prize “The Limbo Bar”.


  105. 105 | April 16, 2012 4:49 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    that is my answer to those who think he is going to declare martial law… it is not going to happen. Those that would be called on to enforce it don’t support it.

    I think it would be considered an “illegal order” which even the military is not expected to follow.


  106. yenta-fada
    106 | April 16, 2012 4:51 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I am waiting for carney to have a meltdown. That much lying to cover for his boss has to take a toll.

    Carney doesn’t look like lying causes him to break a sweat.


  107. 107 | April 16, 2012 4:51 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Guggi:

    They need to call the Pulitzer Prize “The Limbo Bar”.

    That’s a good one!


  108. yenta-fada
    108 | April 16, 2012 4:52 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Get your brain bleach ready: Ellen DeGeneres and the First Lady swap prom pix.
    From Ellen’s tablecloth dowdiness to Michelle’s side-slit up to the hip…

    Actually I don’t think Mooch looks that bad. The guy looks a lot older. Probably conscripted.


  109. buzzsawmonkey
    109 | April 16, 2012 4:53 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Actually I don’t think Mooch looks that bad.

    If her dress slit were any higher it would not be sewn at all.


  110. Lily
    110 | April 16, 2012 4:54 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Looks like one.


  111. Guggi
    111 | April 16, 2012 4:55 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    It still looks like a negligee :-)


  112. yenta-fada
    112 | April 16, 2012 4:55 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    that is my answer to those who think he is going to declare martial law… it is not going to happen. Those that would be called on to enforce it don’t support it.
    I think it would be considered an “illegal order” which even the military is not expected to follow.

    The last National Defense Executive Order (just from reading it once) seems to give the President emergency/war powers to be used at any time.


  113. Lily
    113 | April 16, 2012 4:55 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Get your brain bleach ready: Ellen DeGeneres and the First Lady swap prom pix.
    From Ellen’s tablecloth dowdiness to Michelle’s side-slit up to the hip…

    Actually I don’t think Mooch looks that bad. The guy looks a lot older. Probably conscripted.

    She doesn’t look that bad, at least she doesn’t look bitter in this photo and actually smiling.


  114. yenta-fada
    114 | April 16, 2012 4:57 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    Actually I don’t think Mooch looks that bad.
    If her dress slit were any higher it would not be sewn at all.

    She’s the camel toe FLOTUS.


  115. Lily
    115 | April 16, 2012 4:57 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    I hate to cast aspersions on the Secret Service, but I wonder if there isn’t so much fire in the belly to protect him. It would not surprise me that the obamas et al treat the help shabbily.

    If they don’t have the “fire in the belly’ to protect the President, regardless of who holds the office, they’re unworthy of the Secret Service and guilty of de facto criminal negligence. The assassination talk is a bit much….

    I think they were just caught with their pants down, so to speak.
    You are right doesn’t matter who holds the office they aren’t suppose to be political.


  116. Lily
    116 | April 16, 2012 5:00 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Ellen’s dress is horrible even for 1976. I went to prom in 1976 and in 1977 and my dresses looked nothing like that.


  117. Guggi
    117 | April 16, 2012 5:01 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Ellen’s dress is horrible even for 1976. I went to prom in 1976 and in 1977 and my dresses looked nothing like that.

    Agreed. But what is “prom” ?


  118. yenta-fada
    118 | April 16, 2012 5:02 pm

    Matching crotch shots at the Easter Egg Roll

    http://news.daylife.com/photo/063I8P4fOqdtp?__site=daylife&q=Michelle+Obama


  119. 119 | April 16, 2012 5:03 pm

    Lily wrote:

    I think they were just caught with their pants down, so to speak.

    Personally, I’m pretty baffled as to who these people were as the behavior was so bizarre. They were acting like people who had never been out of town before and lost their friggin’ minds. i don’t think these were people that we generally think of as “Secret Service” -- once again, I think the media is going after the sensationalism and leaving the facts on the cutting room floor.


  120. Lily
    120 | April 16, 2012 5:04 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Prom is a big dance for the Seniors who are graduating. In some High schools it is called the Junior/Senior prom. At my high school only seniors were able to go, but their dates didn’t have to be seniors.


  121. yenta-fada
    121 | April 16, 2012 5:04 pm

    Oh, look. Zero finds a VP.

    http://news.daylife.com/photo/0eJifnHgJXaCs?__site=daylife&q=Michelle+Obama


  122. Lily
    122 | April 16, 2012 5:05 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Like I said upthread a rather bizarre story.


  123. yenta-fada
    123 | April 16, 2012 5:06 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Ridicule is a standard Alinsky rule.


  124. 124 | April 16, 2012 5:07 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Oh, look. Zero finds a VP.

    http://news.daylife.com/photo/0eJifnHgJXaCs?__site=daylife&q=Michelle+Obama

    When I was a little kid, I was terrified of the giant Easter Bunnies……..and they weren’t even standing next to the likes of Barack Obama.


  125. Guggi
    125 | April 16, 2012 5:08 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    Prom is a big dance for the Seniors who are graduating. In some High schools it is called the Junior/Senior prom. At my high school only seniors were able to go, but their dates didn’t have to be seniors.

    And they are in the school building ?


  126. Lily
    126 | April 16, 2012 5:08 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Well {yenta} there is lots of material you got to work with! 8-)


  127. citizen_q
    127 | April 16, 2012 5:10 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:
    @ yenta-fada:
    I am waiting for carney to have a meltdown. That much lying to cover for his boss has to take a toll.
    Carney doesn’t look like lying causes him to break a sweat.

    I was assuming he has a soul, or a conscience.


  128. Lily
    128 | April 16, 2012 5:10 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Sometimes it’s off campus at fancy ballroom, sometimes it is on campus and decorated to the hilt.
    Michelle’s photo actually looks like it was taken at the prom.
    Ellen’s photo looks like it was taken at her home before she went to the prom.


  129. Lily
    129 | April 16, 2012 5:12 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Oh, look. Zero finds a VP.

    http://news.daylife.com/photo/0eJifnHgJXaCs?__site=daylife&q=Michelle+Obama

    When I was a little kid, I was terrified of the giant Easter Bunnies……..and they weren’t even standing next to the likes of Barack Obama.

    Were you scared of clowns too? My youngest son hated and was scared of clowns all clowns, he said the mimes were the worst. ;)


  130. yenta-fada
    130 | April 16, 2012 5:12 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Well {yenta} there is lots of material you got to work with!

    There is no way those two are partying it up just on Ozero’s salary. We just see the tip of the iceberg.


  131. 131 | April 16, 2012 5:12 pm

    Defensive Gun Uses Save the U.S. One Trillion Dollars Per Year

    Well, the math is a little strained but it makes more sense than stimulus.


  132. yenta-fada
    132 | April 16, 2012 5:14 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    Oh, look. Zero finds a VP.
    http://news.daylife.com/photo/0eJifnHgJXaCs?__site=daylife&q=Michelle+Obama
    When I was a little kid, I was terrified of the giant Easter Bunnies……..and they weren’t even standing next to the likes of Barack Obama.

    How about “The Great Pumpkin”?

    http://news.daylife.com/photo/01Ft7tQdim97d?__site=daylife&q=Michelle+Obama


  133. Speranza
    133 | April 16, 2012 5:16 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I think I’ve watched MSNBC once, and that was only because it was on in a business I happened to be in. I was greatly offended, though no one appologized to me. MSNBC has every right to produce their propoganda, but they should be held in the same esteem as Pravda and Der Sturmer as propaganda and not news or journalism. ANd that may be a bit degrading to Pravda, to be compared to MSNBC and Der Sturmer…

    I find it torture to watch PMSNBC.


  134. 134 | April 16, 2012 5:17 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Were you scared of clowns too? My youngest son hated and was scared of clowns all clowns, he said the mimes were the worst.

    “Clownphobia” is fairly common but they didn’t bother me that much, just the monster bunnies.


  135. Lily
    135 | April 16, 2012 5:17 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Well {yenta} there is lots of material you got to work with!

    There is no way those two are partying it up just on Ozero’s salary. We just see the tip of the iceberg.

    Oh I agree they are spending taxpayers money like water running through their hands….

    Mooch To Hold Four Campaign Fundraisers In Two Days, Squeezes In “Official” Event So Taxpayers Foot The Bill…

    First Lady Michelle Obama will host four fundraisers today and tomorrow along with an event with service members that could ensure taxpayers pick up a significant amount of her travel costs.

    Michelle’s first fundraiser is today in Washington. Tuesday she travels to Nashville for a single money event and then on to Pittsburgh for two more. But included in her excursion to collect cash is an small event in Pittsburgh that is part of her “Joining Forces” initiative to aid veterans and military families.

    By throwing in what appears to be an “official” first lady event, the White House may be ensuring that many of the costs of the trip will be paid for by taxpayers instead of the Obama campaign. This event appears particularly skimpy, amounting to little more than a “greeting” by local service members and their families

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/16/mooch-to-hold-four-campaign-fundraisers-in-two-days-squeezes-in-official-event-so-taxpayers-foot-bill/


  136. Speranza
    136 | April 16, 2012 5:19 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    I’ve never considered Florida to be that “Southern”, in terms of culture.

    Only the panhandle.


  137. Lily
    137 | April 16, 2012 5:20 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Were you scared of clowns too? My youngest son hated and was scared of clowns all clowns, he said the mimes were the worst.

    “Clownphobia” is fairly common but they didn’t bother me that much, just the monster bunnies.

    My youngest son had all kind of phobias (he grew out of) black-eyed peas …they were staring at him, spiders, etc. It was funny.
    Giant bunnies didn’t come up though for him. ;)


  138. Speranza
    138 | April 16, 2012 5:21 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    “Clownphobia” is fairly common but they didn’t bother me that much, just the monster bunnies.

    Actually it is called Coulrophobia.


  139. 139 | April 16, 2012 5:22 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    I’ve never considered Florida to be that “Southern”, in terms of culture.

    Only the panhandle.

    Yeah, I can see where that’s the case.


  140. Lily
    140 | April 16, 2012 5:23 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    “Clownphobia” is fairly common but they didn’t bother me that much, just the monster bunnies.

    Actually it is called Coulrophobia.

    My youngest son was an expert at it too, he had them in all different catorgies. Mimes were the worst, then circus clowns, etc. he would go in full detail of them all.


  141. 141 | April 16, 2012 5:25 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Actually it is called Coulrophobia.

    The term is of recent origin, probably dating from the 1980s

    Which is proof that we’re inventing maladies as we go along……


  142. Speranza
    142 | April 16, 2012 5:27 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Which is proof that we’re inventing maladies as we go along……

    Lol -- anything to help the Doctors out with their ICD-9 coding!


  143. Lily
    143 | April 16, 2012 5:27 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Yep it is really just stuff that kids are afraid of that they grow out of …like the boogie-man!!! ;)


  144. Speranza
    144 | April 16, 2012 5:28 pm

    Lily wrote:

    My youngest son was an expert at it too, he had them in all different catorgies. Mimes were the worst, then circus clowns, etc. he would go in full detail of them all.

    I never liked clowns when I was a little kid. I found them creepy.


  145. Speranza
    145 | April 16, 2012 5:29 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    MacDuff wrote:
    I’ve never considered Florida to be that “Southern”, in terms of culture.

    Only the panhandle.

    Yeah, I can see where that’s the case.

    I mean Southern Florida resembles a combo of Havana and Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn.


  146. Lily
    146 | April 16, 2012 5:31 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    My youngest son was an expert at it too, he had them in all different catorgies. Mimes were the worst, then circus clowns, etc. he would go in full detail of them all.

    I never liked clowns when I was a little kid. I found them creepy.

    My youngest son took to a whole new level. I am pretty sure he still doesn’t like clowns, or dolls ….dolls really creeped him out too. Now that he has a daughter it’s going to be a riot in my opinion. :lol:


  147. yenta-fada
    147 | April 16, 2012 5:34 pm

    By the way, gold is on “sale” at $1650/ounce. I’ve been very good about keeping my mouth shut, but it is (along with silver) the best way to preserve purchasing power. Printing money to infinity has consequences, especially at the gas pump.

    *short commercial*


  148. yenta-fada
    148 | April 16, 2012 5:35 pm

    @ Lily:

    There’s so much cute stuff out there for kids!


  149. Lily
    149 | April 16, 2012 5:37 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I told him JUST WAIT FOR ALL THE DOLLS!!!!


  150. 150 | April 16, 2012 5:39 pm

    The Senate can’t bring themselves to vote on a budget for three years, but they’re about to vote on inane “Buffett Rule”. There are no words……


  151. yenta-fada
    151 | April 16, 2012 5:40 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    I told him JUST WAIT FOR ALL THE DOLLS!!!!

    lol lol.


  152. yenta-fada
    152 | April 16, 2012 5:41 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    The Senate can’t bring themselves to vote on a budget for three years, but they’re about to vote on inane “Buffett Rule”. There are no words……

    How about “lawless”? That’s a word.


  153. Lily
    153 | April 16, 2012 5:41 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Nope you can only shake your head with all this nonsense that is going on.


  154. Lily
    154 | April 16, 2012 5:42 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    The Senate can’t bring themselves to vote on a budget for three years, but they’re about to vote on inane “Buffett Rule”. There are no words……

    How about “lawless”? That’s a word.

    rogue and treason kinda of come to mind also.


  155. mtc
    155 | April 16, 2012 5:44 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Too horrible to contemplate if true. I can’t believe that 11 of them would ruin everything for a hooker.


  156. yenta-fada
    156 | April 16, 2012 5:47 pm

    note bene:

    Katie Pavlich, Townhall.com editor and author of Fast and Furious: Barack Obama’s Bloodiest Scandal and the Shameless Cover-Up will appear Monday night on Bill O’Reilly’s show on Fox News at 8pm.

    She is also scheduled to appear on Sean Hannity’s Great American Panel on Fox News on Tuesday night.


  157. 157 | April 16, 2012 5:58 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    @ Lily:

    We haven’t passed a budget for some three years and “coincidentally”, spending has soared during that same period. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but without a budget, spending is done via a succession of continuing resolutions thus obscuring real spending until after its been spent. We’re “budgeting” while we’re spending the money!

    Good Gawd, this is insanity……..


  158. 158 | April 16, 2012 6:02 pm

    New Thread.


  159. 159 | April 16, 2012 6:03 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Of course – that institutionalized White Hispanic racism against Blacks was a national disgrace.

    They made a movie on it, Amistad!


  160. Speranza
    160 | April 16, 2012 6:27 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    To be clear, these guys were not his detail, nor were they the advance team. They were ‘support’ – manning metal detectors, etc.

    They all deserve to be terminated -- with prejudice.


  161. waldensianspirit
    161 | April 16, 2012 6:32 pm

    And it may get worse :Kessler to Newsmax: Secret Service Prostitutes May be Underage Girls

    Who selected these agents?


  162. brookly red
    162 | April 16, 2012 7:36 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    And it may get worse :Kessler to Newsmax: Secret Service Prostitutes May be Underage Girls

    Who selected these agents?

    well according to their website, homeland security… and btw their motto is “worthy of trust and confidence”


  163. brookly red
    163 | April 16, 2012 7:37 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    And it may get worse :Kessler to Newsmax: Secret Service Prostitutes May be Underage Girls

    Who selected these agents?

    well according to their website, homeland security… and btw their motto is “worthy of trust and confidence”

    I smell a big PR contract in the making…


  164. Canoe Convoy
    164 | April 16, 2012 7:55 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Yay! It’s high time this got some coverage.


  165. Speranza
    165 | April 16, 2012 8:06 pm

    mtc wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Too horrible to contemplate if true. I can’t believe that 11 of them would ruin everything for a hooker.

    They should all be fired.


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