Part of the frustration we conservatives feel, is simply the refusal of the political left to debate within the confines of what actual reality would dictate to be the starting point for any discussion in the arena of ideas. The spin of events as a regular interpretation to fit a narrative before any substantive discussion takes place has become so regular an occurrence, that whenever anybody questions the given premise, watching liberals try to comprehend the objection is a little like watching the science fiction cult classic, “Scanners.” In that movie, a psychic killer would strike, and we were treated to 15 or so seconds of film time devoted to people’s heads vibrating with a glazed look in their eyes until their heads literally just exploded. We,ll of course have to review some examples.
The President has been traveling the country lately, drumming up popular support for his Buffett Rule, which as it turns out is nothing more than a proposed increase in the Capital Gains Rate. During his latest attempt to legislate, “fairness,” otherwise known by sane people as class envy, he claims that this is his attempt to solve our deficit spending problem. The media’s part of the spin, not one person associated with the major media openly laughed at our President when he made this statement. Let’s be honest with one another, that statement not only deserves derision, but outright open guffaws. According to the CBO, using the laughably inaccurate baseline budgeting technique, estimates that the Buffett Rule would increase our revenues by $3 Billion per year. Baseline budgeting of course, as we’ve discussed before, is a purposefully dishonest accounting trick which by law, forces things which have been proven to create a decrease in revenue to be viewed as an increase, and vice versa. In this instance, it assumes that the Warren Buffetts of the world will not take steps to shelter their wealth from taxation by placing their investments over seas, as they have every other time we’ve penalized their capital gains. Assuming however that we did actually increase the federal revenues by $3 Billion rather than what historically has always been the result of such measures, how much deficit reduction would this rule actually accomplish. Well, as luck would have it, a simple amount of 3rd grade level math can answer this question for us. Our deficit currently is $1.6 Trillion per year. We’ll round down to 1.5, just to make it easy. A Trillion is exactly 1000 time a Billion. So, the $3 Billion would be able to cover the $1.5 Trillion in 500 years, assuming no interest, inflation, future deficits, book keeping errors, or future total collapses of our entire economy as predicted by the CBO in 2027. That entire discussion takes place even before we consider the already in place whopping debt of $15 Trillion and change. With all of this, not a single main stream media source has ever questioned their masters about the math, spending as a part of the problem, introducing more and even more expensive entitlements to the legally obligated portion of our non existent budget, which by the way, has not been passed since the Democrats took control of the House in 2007.
Another example happened during the Obamacare debate. When asked by a conservative blogger about where in the Constitution the Democrats found authority to pass such sweeping legislation that clearly violates every principle upon which our republic was founded, Nancy Pelosi simply laughed and answered, “are you serious?.” Within each reporting of the main stream media, there was a plethora of liberal pundits, posing as objective news reporters who were gleefully pointing out that anyone who thought that the challenges of the law in the court system had any merit were intellectually inferior. So, when Antonin Scalia and Anthony Kennedy pointed out, very astutely, that this particular legislation has some real problems with the Tenth Amendment, namely that it gives the Executive Branch an unchecked authority to just grant itself new power, the same liberal press had a fun to watch meltdown. There was nothing quite like watching Jeffrey Toobin, the CNN Legal Expert, describe the oral arguments at the supreme court to be a, “train wreck,” as if the vast majority of the American People were not dead set against this law, and indeed hoping for the high court to strike this monstrous destruction of our entire way of life down. Yet when President Obama described it days later, he proclaimed it to be bi-partisan effort passed with approval of a large majority in our Legislative Branch. Not a single laugh was recorded amongst the press covering the President at that moment, which is something reality would have dictated.
I read somewhere this morning that when the President or any of his minions speak, we should expect to hear the theme music from the, “Twilight Zone,” and that famous Rod Serling narration. My apologies to whomever I quoted, I can not remember where I had read it. That statement really strikes at the nub of the matter doesn’t it. In order to see things through the liberal prism, you need to exist, mentally anyhow in an alternate universe, where facts are indeed subjective, and distinctions between good and evil, honesty and falsehood are merely a matter of semantics. It doesn’t matter in the slightest that decreases across the board in marginal tax rates have always resulted in increases in federal revenues, we will still assume that by increasing taxes on people we don’t want you to like will result in a deficit reduction. It doesn’t matter at all that our spending on asinine uses of our money, and that the government has not ever succeeded in any of its endeavors into what should be the private sector, those who wish to make their own decisions as to what to do with the fruits of their own labor are labeled as selfish, and the people who did nothing to produce those fruits are labeled as righteous when they come to confiscate that wealth. We have real live examples of the model cities,(Detroit,) fiasco in existence already in America, yet I am still seeing it being taught as a part of our elementary education curricula.
About a year ago, a friend of mine signed me up for a facebook group of liberals who wished to discuss politics on line. It seems that they wanted a few conservatives to debate. It took me about 10 days to be kicked out of the group. One of the college kiddies told me after the third day that he thought it would be nice if, as a conservative, I would write about why all conservatives were knuckle dragging redneck morons who were not smart enough to just accept the liberal worldview. He thought I would be spending my time explaining why we supported Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, even when everyone, wink wink, knew that they did not deserve to be defended for their obvious crimes against dear leader. Cue the Twilight Zone music. As it turns out, they were completely unprepared for any actual argument which went against their worldview, and they certainly were not willing to read such blasphemous words. Tough to debate with someone who is unwilling to at the very least acknowledge your side of the debate. This is where we are in America now. Compromise is just another word for let us have our own way. I used to think that the left worked so hard at censorship because they did not feel capable of defeating us in the arena of ideas, but I realized something even more nefarious is happening here. They would never know if they were capable of defeating us in that arena, as they have never once contemplated any of our arguments. How could they? They simply don’t want to take the chance that an alternative view point exists, anywhere. In order for people to be continuously against their will to behave as the political elites wish, they must be totally controlled. That is why they are always striving to silence the right. It’s not that they fear losing the debate, it’s that they don’t want to allow a debate to take place.
Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.
Alice -- “But I don’t wish to go amongst mad people!”
Cheshire Cat -- “Oh, you can’t help that!”
I made that mistake yesterday. I signed up for Ruck.Us thinking it was actually a place for people to go that were dissatisfied with the two party system and wanted to talk politics. Well, the damn place is nothing but a cesspool of lib wackjobs wanting to prove their “intellectual superiority”. When answering profile questions I hit one that asked about who was responsible for most of the deficit increase. Well, being a conservative I actually looked up the facts. According to the Treasury Dept apparently dems are responsible for almost 80%. The little POS who wrote the question wrote back to me attacking me for creating my own facts, because as he said “Republicans are responsible for 60% of the deficit according to the CBO.” Well, when I went to reply to him again, the website wouldn’t let me, leading me to nothing but dead links. So under my profile I provided the link to the treasury depts numbers. As of yet the piece of garbage has not posted his links to the CBO numbers.
Any facts that do not coincide with liberal thought are either disregarded or derided. There is no middle ground.
ROTFLMAO…Funny you should say that. I just got banned from Investors Hub for pointing out that their Founder is serving a 4 year prison sentence for SEC fraud violation for bashing a stock so he could make 4 million dollars naked shorting it.
@ Mars:
Liberals never want debate -- only corroboration.
From the net….”1984″ was a warning, not an instruction book.
BTW, compare that no-better-than-avareage Ramirez cartoon up top to the piece of crap that won the Pulitzer yesterday.
Debating idiots?? Was on full force on the Hannity show…
@ doriangrey:
The stock markets no longer represent a place where individuals want to invest. From what I read, 50% of all trades are High Frequency Trades between computers to keep the Dow from spiraling before the election. In my area of interest, when gold went to $1900/oz last year, the gold stocks barely moved in relation to the physical price. The naked shorters made the money. How can an individual investor compete with a computer program that moves in fractions of a second?
Flyover country would know much more than I do about the market, but who is really making any money in these markets except for Apple shareholders?
yenta-fada wrote:
Criminals like those running Investors Hub and the naked shorters. Oh… And Investors Hub is up on RICO Charges, I hope they all end up in prison right next to their founder Matthew Brown.
I know people who are professionals and they are not hurting in this economy. Sure, they are nervous because the facts have seeped out despite the media telling us everything is about to get better. They are all liberals, so they see no reason to doubt their views on politics anymore than they need to be realistic about Islam. They consider themselves informed because they read newspapers.
Most liberals suffer from Cognitive Dissonance. Their personal world view doesn’t match up with what they see on a daily basis, so their minds have essentially snapped. Fortunately for them they have the press to broadcast to them from their alternate universe, so they don’t go insane and start killing in the streets.
doriangrey wrote:
That would surely be a good start! There’s a mega-rich group of well connected people in ‘The Carlyle Group’ (sp) Politicians, hedge fund billionaires, etc. They are planning an IPO which tells me that they want to fleece the few investors left in the market as soon as possible. My observations only.
@ Mars:
I don’t think they have cognitive dissonance so much as they have tunnel vision because they are protected so far. They will have cognitive dissonance when the fit hits the shan. The liberals who are affected by this economy are busy blaming ‘the man’.
@ Mars:
No you can’t debate these type of people at all. They don’t want to know the real facts especially if it refutes what they ‘believe’. They take politics to the level of a certain type of ‘faith’ and you can’t question their framework of ‘faith’. This is so insane to have such ‘blind faith’ in people in politics (they are people for heavens sake!) instead of actually looking at the facts.
They assume everyone without their world view are ‘knuckle-dragging-rednecks’ this is also a slam at the south too.
@flyovercountry
Another great post filled with thoughtful observation based on facts.
You would be such a great op-ed writer for a newspaper. You should have a weekly column in the Wall Street Journal.
yenta-fada wrote:
Invest in a diversified portfolio with companies whose value is based on tangible property like oil, metals, food, or other commodities and invest in the long term. Don’t try and time the market, use dollar cost averaging.
@ Lily:
Toronto suffers from the same syndrome, although the knuckle-draggers got so sick of the last Socialist mayor that they actually voted a businessman into office. The newspapers excoriate him. He’s not perfect, but he gets the concept that spending more money than you take in is not a great plan for a major city.
How do you debate this nonsense when people actually buy into it?
@ Lily:
Forgot the link..
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/17/obama-ties-trayvon-martin-shooting-to-anti-immigrant-sentiment-in-america/
@ yenta-fada:
“who is really making any money in these markets except for Apple shareholders?”
I am. I think a buy and hold of quality companies is still valid.
e.g.: I’ve got IBM @140, CAT @74; F @10′ AGNC paying 15% dividend; etc.etc.
Now, I wouldn’t ever try day-trading, where the electronic traders have a massive edge.
As for gold, you’re right, the miners never moved up. Big disconnect there. I have the metal itself as well as GLD.
Not wanting to get argumentative, but there is a lot of bashing of a system that is still pretty well functional for those not trying to “play” it.
The Ruck.us site I mentioned earlier is a good example of how libs do things. It pushes itself as a place for conservatives and liberals. Instead it’s a rats nest of liberals with a few tokens thrown in. They went there to form their own politics outside of the two party system. Apparently to the libs that means that the libs aren’t far enough left and they want to go full on communist without the disguises. Of course what should I expect of a site made by the sons of Daschle and Glendening? And who the hell is this Buddy Roehmer the site is trying to convince everyone should be president or vice?
Rancher wrote:
Great advice. I’m getting too old to invest for the long term. lol.
I simply don’t believe the good times are coming back, however I do agree that there will be an era of hard assets. Moving paper around the world made hedge fund managers and investment banking houses rich beyond compare. It was not productive for the little people who produce the goods and services imo. That’s the big talking point behind the union backed ‘occupiers’. There’s a small part of truth in their complaints, however they are being used and don’t understand the scope of the issues. They are unemployable and don’t know why.
yenta-fada wrote:
It is so simple ‘you can’t spend more than you take in’ but too many people just don’t grasp it. I get rather sick of the Knuckle-dragging-wingnut-redneck thing. But then again I call them moonbats. See just one word.
Lily wrote:
Interesting that the ass backwards SOB would try that, considering the man being crucified is hispanic.
@ Mars:
Do what they are wanting Buddy Roemer? He is an ex-Louisiana govenor and a Republican. He isn’t getting much traction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Roemer
@ doriangrey:
The potential losses to naked shorting are literally unlimited. One day, this moron is going to have that strategy really backfire on him. He’s going to trash some stock, sell short what he does not own yet, and the next day, they’ll make some public announcement of finding the cure for cancer or inventing the next iphone. About 30 seconds after that, everyone who purchased the options will exercise them, and bammo, the ending of, “Trading Places,” all over again. At least that’s what he deserves.
Getting cute and taking short cuts is a sword that cuts literally both ways.
The last one is appropriate for the Occupy Crowd.
@ Lily:
I noticed he was a Republican. That’s why I’m so baffled that a whole bunch of libs are lining up behind him on there. Unless somehow he’s left of Romney.
@ grambo:
Very well said. I couldn’t afford those share prices though. What you do is very prudent for people with large savings. That’s likely what flyovercountry does, I suspect. I think the majority of people on this blog feel they are lucky to have a job and pay their bills. The Canadian stock exchange is commodity based, as you probably know. The differential in the currencies over the years put Canadians at a disadvantage for investing in U.S. stocks. Now that the currencies are more or less at par, we didn’t benefit from the rise in any US dollar based stocks. We simply don’t have the wealth that the U.S. has.
Obama is going to spend 42 million dollars to make sure oil speculators aren’t manipulating the market. Someone explain to me how a speculator can manipulate a market? If I’m investing in the futures market or even investing in options my bet that prices will rise or fall is called by some speculator who believes the opposite. In other words any speculator who wins means another speculator loses. Why are those speculating that oil will rise so much smarter than those speculating that prices will fall? How come they can manipulate the market but those speculating that prices will fall can’t? Why are the former evil? It’s a zero sum game and another 42 million goes down the toilet.
@ Mars:
WTF!
That is an onion article. How the hell is a Jewish-Peruvian person anti-immigrant by shooting an African American? This is just so twisted.
Ok, now it’s beginning to make sense. Americans Elect is a big part of the site, and they are the ones who nominated him. (BTW American Elect is a sub-group of the NoLabels crowd, libs pretending to be something else.)
@ Mars:
I think they all fit the bill. Especially the one ‘Worries about hormones in milk……..but takes acid from strangers’ also fits the bill of the OWS protesters.
Rodan wrote:
No joke, my jaw about hit the floor when Lily posted that.
@ Lily:
They really are reaching. Someone of Jewish and Peruvian roots is anti-immigrant by shooting a Black American whose family had probably been here for hundreds of years.
@ Mars:
I don’t know whether to laugh or to cry. I am dead serious. We have to get rid of this asshole.
Lily wrote:
Yep, but the “unemployable” bit just sparked my memory. So many of those OWS have worthless degrees. To be fair, mine is pretty worthless right now too.
Mars wrote:
I don’t know he has been out of politics for a while and even the people of Louisiana aren’t even paying attention to him. I wonder why they are?
Rodan wrote:
Lets look at another piece of news that hit while Sharpton and Co. were stirring up the shit in Florida.
Shooting victim was holding a leash, not a weapon.
Rodan wrote:
bho keeps doubling-down on this for some reason. It is pure insanity to be honest.
Lily wrote:
I think it’s all due to Americans Elect being a big part of the site now. He’s their nominee for President.
@ yenta-fada:
Thank-you. Very kind.
I retired last year and rolled my IRA. What I have is the result of spending 10% less than I made for 37 years. I didn’t mean to come off as bragging, but simply supporting the idea of long-term saving and investing as a way to control one’s own future.
Mars wrote:
This is the shooting of a hispanic man with the mental capacity of a 12 year old, by a black man. Yet, it hasn’t even made national news. Several elements are similar to the Trayvon shooting, except this one is more blatantly vile.
@ Mars:
Interesting no calls for investigating that.
@ Mars:
Funny no outcry over this.
Clearly Non Black deaths are not important on Pharonic America.
Rancher wrote:
Also, this so-called speculation doesn’t take into account that natural gas prices are at a ten year low. Barry and Alinsky are blamers, not builders. They are parasites on the productive.
@ Mars:
WTH? They didn’t notice the dog at the end of the leash? That story is insane. Self-defense?
@ Lily:
No way is this self defense.
Rodan wrote:
That’s exactly the message being sent. Also keep in mind that Holder was at an event celebrating the “career” of Sharpton around the time this occurred.
Mars wrote:
Good luck to them .. Buddy Roemer is going nowhere fast.
@ Rodan:
Gee, lets see which could be justified. A mentally handicapped man with a dog. Or a large, tattooed thug with a gold “grill”. Which one would you feel more frightened of?
@ Lily:
Oh, that’s ok. Daschle (sites founder) is also trying to push for my soon to be termed out governor to run for senate in 2014 due to his being a “centrist”. He’s actually the most partisan, corrupt clown we’ve ever had. He’s only on the right side with gun rights. Everything else he obeys his dem masters.
@ Mars:
Where is the DOJ rushing to defend this senseless shooting?
Oh wait…. *crickets*
@ Rodan:
I couldn’t agree more. So far my efforts have consisted of preaching to the choir (I don’t have much contact with liberals) and sending some money to the RNC. Doesn’t seem like much. I need ideas.
I don’t live in a swing state (Nashville; hi Rain !) so I guess I need to …….
grambo wrote:
I didn’t think you were bragging; not at all. I love success stories!
My concern for all savers is the value of the CURRENCY that one is using to save in. Quantitative easing is going on all the time in the form of printing money to help save insolvent European banks. They are calling them ‘swaps’, but there’s no ability to pay back those ‘loans’. Changes in currencies in relation to each other used to move very slowly. Now they move in HOURS. I do believe that Americans will see some form of currency controls so that you will not easily get out of the dollar. We save in a currency that will hurt your toe if you drop a bunch of it on your foot. It is international and the Chinese, Russians and Indians love it.
Mars wrote:
Celebrating the career of a race-baiter. Jeez.
Rodan wrote:
Prayers going up!
@ Lily:
I think a good answer for Obama would have been something to the effect of “When the rest of the countries at this conference are half as prosperous, generous and socially placid, please feel fee to be critical. That this type of incident happens as amatter of course in most of the Americas, yet has garnered international notice in the US speaks as well of the US as it does ill of everyone else. Americans are oft admonished to keep our noses out of the internal affairs of other countries, so I’ll admonish you do so in the Treyvon Martin case. Our system of justice is just fine, thank you. Oh, and by the way, our immigration policy wouldn’t be of such interest if Mexico and points south weren’t economic basket cases, would it? Let’s not forget who the senior partner is at this conference”
Mars wrote:
I’m very sorry to hear that. Don’t let the b’turds grind you down.
@ MacDuff:
MacDuff that just doesn’t fit the narrative he wants to put across.
/plus that would actually make sense. The reason this is getting international press is because of him and all the faux outrage from the race-baiters he and the DOJ fully support!
Mars wrote:
Funny captions.
@ yenta-fada:
Yeah they were. They all fit those fools.
grambo wrote:
Write letters to the editor in your local paper until you get in print. People love to read them.
yenta-fada wrote:
I’ll be ok. But, to do so I have to do some things that I’m not really a fan of. In order to provide for my family I’ve had to file for a VA disability increase, and probably SSDI too if I get to the magic number of 70%. Not my preferred route, but my disability has gotten a lot worse, and I have to provide for my children.
@ Mars:
You gotta do what you gotta do. Hang in there Mars!
yenta-fada wrote:
Heh. The Tennessean is a liberal rag. I’ve tried that on a few specific issues with no result. Carefully crafted, to the point letters, mind you. Not ranting.
There are a few local online outlets, though.
Maybe I’ll organize a million-pissed-off-taxpayer-man march and bus up to Ohio.
Good night in Georgia! Really????????
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/17/cnns-sycophant-fareed-zakaria-being-considered-for-diplomatic-post-if-obama-wins-second-term/
@ Lily:
All you got to do is flatter bho and you get a top level job…whatever could go wrong here??
@ Lily:
Not overly surprising. Just being in the mainstream press is a job application to a Dem administration. That’s one of the many reasons they won’t do their job. They all believe in their hearts that someday their prince will come and the slipper will fit.
I tried doing some research one time on the cross-pollination between dem administrations and the press. I finally had to stop due to too much information. The two are inherently incestuous.
@ Mars:
Well it is showing daily how the are the water-bearers for the dems.
@ grambo:
We are not dealing with a normal Democrat. This is a 3rd World Liberation Ideologue.
@ Lily:
Zakaria is a Muslim Brotherhood sympathizer. He also believes in a Post American world.
@ Rodan:
Oh I agree bho is a whole different type of politician.
@ Rodan:
Yep he is. This would be very, very bad for bho to put him in any type of position in D.C.
This is pure insanity.
Mars wrote:
A beautiful turn of phrase.
I’d really like to borrow it …… promise to put it to good use.
@ MacDuff:
Obama made it an International incident.
Going to disagree here. Most of Latin America is doing well economically. We are the economic basket case now thanks to Obama.
Rodan wrote:
Very true. He is one of those that are 100% in line with what O believes. A large portion of the press are just stupid. They think they support O because he’s a liberal, they don’t quite grasp how far he is willing to go. I don’t think they’d stop supporting him if they understood, but I do believe they aren’t nearly as dedicated to the destruction of the country as he is. But, Fareed is completely onboard with it.
@ grambo:
Feel free.
@ Mars:
Obama was seen with Zakaria’s book.
@ Rodan:
Just to be clear:
I consider him to be a traitor and a threat to my Country and my children.
@ grambo:
Same here!
Rodan wrote:
Obama/Hillary comrade-in-arms.
Rodan wrote:
I remember that pic.
Rodan wrote:
Well, I guess it’s how you look at it. There are successes and some real up and comers, but there’s a lot of Marxism as well. We have immense structural and regime issues in this country but a middle class lifestyle in the US is far superior than it is just about anywhere in Latin America.
yenta-fada wrote:
Any chance he would be confirmed (Sec State)? Or, more likely an ambassadorship for him? Iceland, maybe.
@ Mars:
Being a veteran is something we can all respect. You deserve any benefits you can get. Part of being ethical means you are proud of being self-reliant and ergo less inclined to take what is owed to you. My opinion, of course. Get that money and be proud of your service.
@ grambo:
Obama’s people don’t likely pay for their own busfare to get to Washington rallies. lol
MacDuff wrote:
A little of both, isn’t it? Brazil has 40% GDP in public sector (yeah, we’re headed that way); Argentina about to do a Chavez on that Spanish oil company …… it ain’t all roses down there.
Mars wrote:
One more reason to vote bho out of office.
grambo wrote:
The ‘internationlists’ love the UN and lots of money. Zakaria gets interviewed at Davos. He will go where the money is. He certainly likes sticking his face in front of a camera.
Rodan wrote:
Given the carnage being wrought by blacks amongst themselves, I think it would be more succinct to say that they only care about black deaths when they are caused by non-black and politically exploitable.
Curiously very much like violence involving muslims.
Lily wrote:
I am saturated with reasons to vote bho out of of office.
You have to see this to believe it. The Swedish cultural minister at an arts fest where:
1) A cake was featured to look like a caricatured black woman;
2) A live person made up to match the cake provides the “head” of the cake and screams each time a slice is cut;
3) The cuts on the cake start in the genital area.
No, I am not making this up.
But it’s OK, folks—they’re progressives.
@ MacDuff:
Actually not the case. Countries like Colombia, Chile, Costa Rica, Panama and increasingly Mexico have solid Middle classes. Even Brazil’s Middle class is strengthening. The Marxists are the outliers, that’s Venezuela and Bolivia. Even Nicaragua, the Sandanistas are Capitalists now. If I was in my 20′s, I would move to Colombia in a heartbeat.
Here’s an interesting fact, Immigration from Latin America is practically zero. You can figure out where most of the Immigrants coming here are from now!
Now as for American Middle Class lifestyle superiors to Latin America, they are on par now. But keep this in mind. They are on the up and thanks to Obama we are on the down. We are missing out an economic boom south oi us. We should be benefiting from the Latin Boom.
Obama needs to go!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
OMG!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Fun with clitorectomies, don’tcha know…
Mars wrote:
Man, that’s threadworthy in itself! We all know their bent, but just looking at the number of past Dem operatives in broadcast media over the decades, it’s obscene. I think that, in the past, there was a certain “dignity” that precluded someone who had worked that closely with the president from doing that sort of thing. Everyone’s a whore now. Yeah, Repubs are doing the same thing now at Fox, but that’s a pretty recent development.
Here’s the YouTube video of the cake in action.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Al Guardian condems the Swedes. I love it when socialists go after each other. POPCORN
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/17/sweden-europe-news
@ MacDuff:
George Stephanopolus is a prime example.
I hate Grover Norquist, he’s a MB supporter.
@ Rodan:
….and Chris Tingle
Boxer proposed, Reid wrote, an amendment to the current highway bill which will permit the IRS to cancel your passport if the IRS determines unilaterally that you owe $50,000 in back taxes.
All your travel and your money are belong to us!
MacDuff wrote:
Chris Tingle? Isn’t he the guy who puts coal into bad little conservatives’ stockings to increase their carbon footprint?
@ buzzsawmonkey:
WTH???? That is horrible! What a bunch of ghouls.
/the insanity continues all over.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
hmmmmm …… if they start with the 98,000 federal employees who, collectively, owe $1 Billion ……. might be an upside to this.
@ MacDuff:
Countless others.
@ yenta-fada:
That is what they come up with to make people aware of FM???????
New Thread.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I saw a headline on Drudge to that story yesterday. Unfortunately the link was to prison planet.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
That’s the least of Swedens Mental problems.
citizen_q wrote:
My link is not to prison planet.
It could be a false alarm—but I put less and less past this current gang.
MacDuff wrote:
Nope, the past didn’t make a difference. I’ve found this crap all the way back to the 40′s and 50′s at least.
Mars wrote:
A hidden, uh, gender?
I pretty thoroughly covered Norquist on here some months ago. A couple good ideas from him don’t make up for a lot of very evil connections.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
They want to eliminate all gender roles. No boy/girl toys, no boy/girl programs. Everyone is the same you know? Even though it’ been shown time and again that there are several differences between the genders. Other than the obvious ones lol.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Yes, I know. My comment was more directed to Drudge’s sometimes choice of sources.
BTW, I could see this happening. The admin and demoncraps are totalitarian in nature and Orwellian in their use of language.
Lily wrote:
Confirming who they really are.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
lol!
Rodan wrote:
Even conceding all of that, I see very few middle class Americans chucking the US for points south, though we are losing some of our wealthy. Permanantly.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
As I said earlier, this can also be used as a form of currency controls for the U.S. dollar.
yenta-fada wrote:
That is not currency control, it’s tyranny.
@ doriangrey:
Indeed it is. Currency controls are just a beneficial side-effect./
@ buzzsawmonkey:
This is on a par with, if not worse than, the knife holder that’s shaped like a man — and just as offensive.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
There’s something rotten in Scandinavia in general, not just Denmark in particular. Every time there’s a story about these people, my reaction is “WTF?”.
doriangrey wrote:
This administration is both pro-tranny and pro-tyranny.
yenta-fada wrote:
That’s already been done by the Child Support Service since the Carter admin. They suspend your passport and all professional licenses. Keep in mind this is an agency with no oversight, no outside appeals (except court if you’re lucky), and no accountability.
@ Mars:
Gee, any other agencies out there with no oversight, no outside appeals, and no accountability?/
Mars wrote:
So, in other words it just like the entire rest of the Obamanation Administration…
Pretty much. Also keep in mind that this is an agency that President Ford created and said it would be declared unconstitutional within the year.
There are a lot of Fathers Rights groups out there trying to get rid of this BS, and put the system back in the hands of the states. But, right now it doesn’t look like much will change. Like Roe vs Wade, even bad, unconstitutional decisions become ingrained as legal precedent if left to stand too long.
@ Mars:
Why did Ford even sign the bill if he was against it?
Lily wrote:
That’s kind of a mystery. Let me see if I can find anything.
Apparently it was included in the Social Services Amendment of 1974 and there were sections he considered too important to risk.
Mars wrote:
That “bundling” crap is one of the most corrosive practices in Washington.
@ Mars:
Apparently too the things that went too far were never addressed.
He should have sent it back to Congress to cut out the things that went too far.
@ MacDuff:
Very true
Michelle Obama: ‘This President Has Brought Us Out of the Dark and Into the Light’
Good God.
Lily wrote:
Not only were they not addressed they were expanded upon under every dem president since. Especially that wart on humanities backside, Carter.
@ MacDuff:
That’s insanity. Pure and simple. This country is more divided, more in debt, and the joke of the world with him at the helm.
Hey guys, new thread.
MacDuff wrote:
Did you see the larger agenda in that speech? She’s making it about The Supreme Court and Obamacare:
“This President has brought us out of the dark and into the light,” she said in a speech at a rally in Nashville. “I hope you all are fired up and ready to go.”
Her comments came as Washington awaited a ruling from the nine justices on whether her husband’s landmark health care law is constitutional. A decision could come in June.
“We cannot forget the impact the Court’s decisions will have on our lives for decades to come — on our privacy and security, on whether we can speak freely, worship openly, and love whomever we choose,” she said in a ringing defense of the president’s record.Asked about similar statements in the past, the White House has denied that they reflect any newfound White House support for gay marriage. Kristina Schake, the First Lady’s communications director, said Tuesday that it “refers to the importance of the Supreme Court for deciding many issues.”
“The President and First Lady firmly believe that gay and lesbian Americans and their families deserve legal protections and the ability to thrive just like any other family,” she said.
Obama press secretary Jay Carney, asked about similar comments from the First Lady in March, said she was specifically referring to the president’s decision to stop defending the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), which bars recognition of same-sex marriage.
With the presidential contest heating up, both sides are expected to warn their supporters that the stakes reach far beyond control of the White House for the next four years because the next president may be able to nominate at least one new justice to a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court.
“Let’s not forget how my husband appointed those two brilliant Supreme Court justices,” Michelle Obama said, referring to Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan.
“Let’s not forget how, for the first time in history, our daughters and our sons watched three women take their seat on our nation’s highest court,” she said.
President Obama sometimes mentions the court at campaign events, but rarely in this level of detail.
Rodan wrote:
Aw, it’s just a sticky thread.
No thanks. Don’t want to delve into the insanity that is Brooks.
yenta-fada wrote:
It’s as brilliant a strategy as it is duplicitous. She’s sounding even more radical than her husband, thus firing up the hard-core Marxists, while the White House doesn’t echo….or disavow her remarks. All the while, she’s hiding behind the mantle of First Lady.
Gawd, and I thought the Clintons were shameless!
@ MacDuff:
Moochelle has the charm of a charging rhino. She says the same thing over and over. You can tell by her buzz words. I’m surprised she graduated from high school. Professional victimhood is EASY in this culture of self esteem being more important than facts, knowledge, or accomplishment.
@Flyovercountry
They would never know if they were capable of defeating us in that arena, as they have never once contemplated any of our arguments. How could they? They simply don’t want to take the chance that an alternative view point exists, anywhere.
About a dozen years ago, I read a editors note relating to something similiar…in Ireland. He got a response from a dear acquiantance he knew for a very long time about his deconstruction of feminism. Her respone rings true for every (honest) liberal I have ever met.
From memory: “If I have to contemplate your position and your point of view, I honestly would have to adjust my opinions and I am not prepared to do that at this point in my life. If ever. If I start doing that, I might have to re-think a lot of other cherished beliefs. Therefore it’s easier to simply ignore you.”
That’s it in a nut shell.