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Speaker Gingrich, Thank You.

by Flyovercountry ( 155 Comments › )
Filed under Uncategorized at April 26th, 2012 - 2:00 pm

Although most of us knew this was coming for some time now, I can not help but feel some sadness, both for the Speaker and for our great nation. My hope now is that at least some, if not most of what he was advocating for will be taken up by the presumptive nominee, Mitt Romney. It should not be entirely out of the question, as we never really got a sense of what Romney ever really stood for anyhow, other than that he believes himself to be the only Republican capable of defeating Dear Leader. Such is the state of American politics in today’s world I’m afraid, it’s more about perception, obfuscation, and the ability to successfully attack one’s adversaries.

With that being said, I am officially throwing my support completely behind Mitt Romney. He is now may man, and will be until November 6, 2012. One day after the election, I will begin working on support for a third party in American political discourse that speaks with the voice of Conservatism. Until that date, this will be the last that I mention it. This election is too important to get bogged down with anything that would distract from the all important task at hand, which is the electoral defeat of Barack Obama.

As an open letter to Mitt Romney, here are some of the things that Speaker Gingrich was campaigning on, that I would like to see become your causes as well.

Repeal of Obamacare:

Legislative Proposal #1: Repeal Obamacare and pass a replacement that saves lives and money by empowering patients and doctors, not bureaucrats and politicians.

Obamacare is a disaster and the first task of my administration will be to repeal it.

The Obamacare law is unconstitutional, unaffordable, unworkable, and stunningly unfair. Its so-called “individual mandate” is blatantly unconstitutional and an unprecedented expansion of federal power.
In addition to the unconstitutional nature of individual and employer mandates, we are learning that they simply don’t work. If the federal government can coerce individuals—by threat of fines—to buy health insurance, there is no stopping the federal government from forcing Americans to buy any good or service.

Their intractable problem is this: once you have a mandate, the government has to specify exactly what coverage must be included in insurance for it to qualify. This introduces political considerations into determining these minimum standards, guaranteeing that nothing desired by the special interests will be left out.

And once the government mandates such expensive insurance, the government becomes responsible for its costs. It has to adopt expensive subsidies to help people pay for the expensive plans that it is requiring. The resulting cost to the taxpayer and strain on the budget leads the government to try and control healthcare costs by limiting healthcare services. The inevitable result is rationing by a nameless, faceless, unaccountable board of government bureaucrats.

The Obamacare law also creates one thousand, nine hundred and sixty eight separate grants of power to bureaucrats, most of them to the Secretary of Health and Human Services and her bureaucracy. It creates 159 new boards, agencies and other government entities to administer health decisions that should be up to the individual in consultation with their doctor. This unprecedented grant of discretionary power to unelected bureaucrats guarantees the rise in arbitrary and corrupted decision-making by the federal government.

For these reasons and more, I will fight for the repeal of Obamacare until it is repealed in its entirety.

We must either limit government or we will have government limit us.

Restructure of our punitive and disastrous regulatory environment:

To empower job-creators, we must get rid of regulations that prevent them from growing and hiring. This means taking decision-making power away from bureaucrats who don’t understand how job creation works.

My Jobs and Prosperity package would repeal the Dodd-Frank legislation, a 2,300-page law passed in 2010 that mandates 400 new regulations written by unelected bureaucrats. Dodd-Frank is paralyzing lending to entrepreneurs, killing small banks, crippling small businesses, driving down the value of housing, and creating corrupting Washington controls over the biggest banks.

Repeal the Sarbanes-Oxley law, which has crippled American start-ups with burdensome compliance costs, driven publicly-traded companies private, and forced American companies overseas.

Replace the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) which is harassing job creators. When businesses are targeted unfairly by government for creating jobs in different states, businesses simply won’t create jobs in any states. We need to stop this unaccountable, activist bureaucratic agency from harassing job-creating companies. The NLRB is currently harassing Boeing, our country’s biggest exporter, because it decided to build a new factory and create hundreds of new jobs in the right-to-work state of South Carolina instead of the forced-unionization state of Washington. We need a new common sense organization for labor-management relations to replace the NLRB.

Later in this Contract, I outline ideas for pro-market, pro-growth, pro-consumer reforms to the Food and Drug Administration and the Environmental Protection Agency.

Truly unleash our full energy potential, which coincidentally will rebuild our manufacturing sector:

Unleash America’s full energy production potential in oil, natural gas, coal, biofuels, wind, nuclear oil shale and more, creating jobs, stimulating a sustainable manufacturing boom, lowering gasoline and other energy prices, increasing government revenues, strengthening the dollar, and bolstering national security.

The United States has more energy resources than any other country in the world – more than Russia, Saudi Arabia, Canada, or Brazil. Expanding the development of these resources could create up to 1.1 million new jobs and deliver $127 billion in new government revenues by 2020, according to a recent Wood Mackenzie study. With the right regulatory policies, the United States could be the largest oil producer in the world by 2017.

It is time to harness the immense natural energy resources our country has, get Americans back to work, and lower gas, diesel, and other energy prices for every American. Yet we pay nearly $4 per gallon for gasoline and continue to import nearly half of our oil from foreign countries, many of which have governments hostile to the United States. Meanwhile, millions of Americans in energy-rich regions of the country remain unemployed.

My administration will pursue an “all of the above” American Energy Policy that allows expanded development of oil, natural gas, coal, biofuels, wind, and nuclear sources of energy.

An effective pro-American energy bill will lead to a boom in American jobs, a dramatic increase in the value of the dollar as we spend less on energy from overseas, and more revenue for state and federal government from royalties and increased economic activity.

As President, I will immediately reset our energy policy by removing bureaucratic and legal obstacles to responsible oil and natural gas development in the United States.

This means development of offshore oil and natural gas resources in places currently blocked by the federal government, such as the Atlantic and Pacific Outer Continental Shelves and the eastern Gulf of Mexico.

It also means ending the restrictions on oil shale development in the western U.S., where we potentially have three times more oil than Saudi Arabia.

Under this plan, coastal states will receive a share of the royalty revenues the federal government takes in – a benefit that states that drill on land already enjoy — to give them an incentive to allow offshore development.

This plan will also ensure that federal agencies get out of the way in places where drilling is already allowed.

For example, even though companies have been cleared to drill in the western Gulf of Mexico for months, the Department of Interior has dragged its feet on reissuing permits – and Gulf Coast economies continue to languish.

Through citizen action, we can liberate America’s energy resources. For example, in the spring of 2008, gas prices were surging towards four dollars a gallon, a citizen-led petition called Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less, called upon Congress to immediately address the energy crisis.

One and a half million signatures later, Congress voted to end its 25-year ban on offshore drilling. By the end of 2008, gas prices had plummeted to under $2 dollars a gallon.

A pro-American energy plan must also recognize the enormous natural gas potential in the United States, especially the development of vast shale gas resources across the country. America is a world leader in responsible shale gas production, and we must continue to promote this form of safe domestic energy production that is creating jobs and strengthening our economy, from Pennsylvania to Texas to Colorado.

This also means maintaining the strong and effective regulation of hydraulic fracturing at the state level and ending the federal government’s attempts to clamp down on this vital technology that has been used safely for more than 60 years.

We must also replace the EPA, which pursues an anti-jobs agenda the economy simply cannot sustain. A pro-growth Environmental Solutions Agency in its place will operate on the premise that most environmental problems can and should be solved by states and local communities. Rather than emphasizing centralization and regulation, it would emphasize coordination with states and local communities, the sharing of best practices, and focus on incentives for new solutions, research and technologies.

The imperative to unleash American energy is not just economic. It is also a basic question of national security. The more energy we can produce here, the less dependent we are on foreign countries, many of whom have interests hostile to our own. At the same time, we must strengthen our relationships with close allies that have vast natural resources, such as Canada. For example, we must immediately authorize the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, which will bring 700,000 barrels of oil a day from Western Canada, Montana, Oklahoma, and the Dakotas to Gulf Coast refineries in Texas, reducing our dependence on Latin America and the Middle East and creating tens of thousands of new jobs.

I look forward to learning more about your ideas and solutions for a bill that will end our man-made energy crisis, and pursuing solutions that will create jobs, bring in more revenue, and lower prices for all Americans.

We have done this before, and we can do it again.

Fiscal Responsibility by balancing our federal budget and reforming entitlement spending:

Balance the federal budget by freeing job-creators to grow the economy, reforming entitlements, and implementing productivity improvement systems, such as Lean Six Sigma, to eliminate waste and fraud. Pass a balanced budget amendment to keep it balanced.

If, however, there is a commitment to balancing the budget, then each agency has to find better ways to do things and more innovative ways to get things done. If you want innovation, better outcomes at lower costs, greater productivity, and a spirit of entrepreneurial public management, the balanced budget creates much more pressure for real innovation. Getting to a balanced budget is absolutely vital. When there is a permanent budget deficit there is no reason for any politician to say no to any interest group. That is, in fact, how we ended up with the current, absurdly bloated, undisciplined federal government. If deficits do not matter and spending is open-ended, the most rational strategy for every bureaucracy is simply to ask for more money.

Over time, the requirement to balance the budget leads to smaller government. Politicians who have to face the voters because they are raising taxes have a much harder sell to make than politicians who can bring home “free” goodies with only some distant deficit to explain.

Two months after I became Speaker in 1995, we came within one vote in the Senate of passing a constitutional amendment that would have required a balanced federal budget.

Even though we didn’t win the vote, the House Republican leadership decided to act as though the Balanced Budget Amendment had become law.

We had pledged to balance the budget within seven years of getting elected, and experts laughed at us – but we ended up doing it in three. And we balanced it for four straight years for the first time since the 1920s.

The financial impact of achieving balanced budgets was startling. When I was sworn in as Speaker of the House in January 1995, the Congressional Budget Office projected that over the next decade the cumulative federal budget deficits would total $2.7 trillion.

Shortly after I left office in January 1999, CBO projected that over the next decade federal surpluses would total over $2.2 trillion– a four-year turnaround in the fiscal outlook of the United States of nearly $5 trillion. A comparable four-year improvement in the U.S fiscal outlook today would total over $8 trillion (as a percentage of GDP).

Today we find ourselves in a situation similar to 1994: Deficits projected as far as the eye can see and an urgent need to return to balanced budgets.

But Americans should not have to accept a defeatist attitude from Washington: There is every reason to believe a comprehensive program of economic growth, government modernization, returning power to the citizens and states and dramatically expanding American energy production can lead to a balanced budget far faster than experts now predict.

The biggest key to reducing the deficit is robust economic growth. Elsewhere in this contract, I outline principles that would empower job-creators to hire millions more Americans by dramatically reducing tax and regulatory burdens, and a program to unleash our bountiful untapped sources of American energy. By creating more wealth and more taxpayers, and by developing billions of dollars worth of new American energy resources, we will dramatically increase federal, state and local revenues and decrease budget deficits.

More revenue can also come through American energy development and through better development of federally owned land including the 69% of Alaska and 85% of Nevada that we the people own through our government.

We can have higher revenues without having higher taxes.

More revenue through economic growth may be the surest method of reducing the deficit, but the federal government must also commit to spend no more of Americans’ money than is needed. That is why this legislation will strive above all to corral the reckless growth of federal spending.

Finally, the bureaucratic rules and procedures that are commonplace in the federal government have no place in the twenty-first century. This legislation must dramatically overhaul the entire structure of the federal civil service, and make it clear that Americans will only tolerate a government that aggressively targets and eliminates waste and fraud, and incorporates private-sector best practices.

Strong America Now, an organization dedicated to bringing modern management to government at every level, estimates that we can save $500 billion a year in spending through proven waste-cutting and value-enhancing techniques from the private sector, such as Lean Six Sigma. The Defense Department has already used Lean Six Sigma to save more than $22 billion, increasing productivity 1,000 percent in some facilities.

IBM’s Business of Government consultancy makes a more conservative estimate, suggesting that the federal government could save $100 billion annually by implementing commercial best practices.

Using fraud detection techniques similar to those employed by credit card companies, we could save between $70 and $120 billion a year in Medicaid and Medicare fraud, according to the Center for Health Transformation.

The opportunities for improvement and waste reduction are endless, and I look forward to hearing Americans’ ideas about other ways to make the federal government more efficient.

Rebuild the decimated military:

Revitalize our national security system to meet 21st century threats by restructuring and adequately funding our security agencies to function within a grand strategy for victory over those who seek to kill us or to limit American freedom.

The current leadership of the United States is severely out of touch with the escalating dangers that threaten our security.

As American presidents have traditionally found, our nation’s peace and safety is best maintained through a robust military capacity, tireless vigilance, and a clear strategy for identifying and countering potential threats—a policy widely known as “peace through strength.” Adherents of such a policy do not seek confrontation. To the contrary, America leads the world in spending on the military and on national security precisely to ensure that our wars are as rare and as swift as possible.If the people’s security cannot be assured, the unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are meaningless, which is why the first responsibility of government is to defend the nation. In the preamble to the Constitution, providing “for the common defense” is identified as a primary reason for forming the new government.

This world is in danger of becoming dramatically more dangerous in the not-too-distant future, and we need to overhaul our entire strategy now if we intend to continue being the safest, freest and most prosperous country in the world.

It is very dangerous for Washington to consider dismantling key parts of our national security structure during a time of war. When we convey weakness and confusion, we become most vulnerable to attack. As Ronald Reagan warned in 1980, “We know only too well that war comes not when the forces of freedom are strong; it is when they are weak that tyrants are tempted.”

General John Abizaid, former Commander of the Central Command, points out that in America “there is a bigger strategic deficit than the fiscal deficit.”

We need to be able to discuss the threats that face us in a clear and open manner. The courage to be free is only sustained by the moral capacity to distinguish between good and evil. If evil cannot be called by name, we will not be able to deter—or even recognize—threats to our nation. Likewise, if we cannot proclaim the righteousness of our values, then we won’t be able to mobilize the spirit necessary to defend America.

The next Administration and Congress must decisively address the following realities:

There are very, very different challenges emerging simultaneously and each requires a fundamentally different strategic response.

The bureaucracies of national and homeland security, intelligence, diplomacy and space activities are all decaying in their effective implementation capability and are wrapped up in red tape and inefficiency.

Our military infrastructure has become dangerously outdated, with our arsenal and equipment in urgent need of new investment.

There are new emerging technologies endangering us – for example, electromagnetic pulse weapons, cyberwar, and lawfare, which we are not prepared to deal with.

American leaders are tired after seven decades of being the world’s preeminent power, and are very resistant to putting in the time and energy it will take to understand the emerging threats and the necessary responses.

We need a new strategy that is as decisive and comprehensive as our bold and unprecedented response to the rise of the Soviet threat after World War II. It will streamline our security, intelligence and diplomatic departments, and recapitalize our military infrastructure.

This bill would be the beginning of that process, not the end.

These immediate executive orders:

Eliminate the 39 White House “Czar” Positions Created During the Current Administration: The president does not have the authority to appoint bureaucrats to power who are not accountable to the Congress.

“Mexico City Policy” of Respect for Life: Reauthorize President Ronald Reagan’s policy – also known as the “Mexico City Policy”— to stop tax payer dollars from being used to fund or promote abortions in foreign countries.

Restore Conscience Clause Protections for Healthcare Workers: No American working in a medical environment should be forced to perform any procedure that he or she finds morally or ethically objectionable based on religious teaching. This protection should include, but not be limited to abortion. Existing conscience clause protections need to be strengthened.

Respect Each Sovereign Nation’s Choice of its Capital: Each sovereign nation, under international law and custom, may designate its own Capital. Accordingly, the U.S. State Department should be instructed to respect the choice of each sovereign nation and place the American embassy in their Capital. (Israel is the only country the United States discriminates against in this regard. The people of Israel have designated Jerusalem as their capital. Yet the United States retains its embassy in Tel Aviv.)

End the Attorney General’s Assault on the States: Instruct the Attorney General to withdraw all immigration-related lawsuits against states immediately, including those pending in Arizona and South Carolina. The Obama Administration refuses to enforce federal immigration laws, and instead sues states who are merely trying to enforce the laws that the federal government neglects. The Gingrich Administration will secure the border by Jan. 1, 2014 by any means necessary.

The Keystone Pipeline: Unleash American Energy by Approving the Keystone XL Pipeline. Instruct the State Department to approve a Presidential Permit immediately for the Keystone XL pipeline, a project that will send 700,000 barrels of oil a day from Great Plains and Southwestern states to Gulf Coast refineries lower staggering energy prices, and create up to 120,000 American jobs.

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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155 Responses to “Speaker Gingrich, Thank You.”
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  1. 1 | April 26, 2012 2:42 pm

    Gingrich’s campaign was the last hurrah’s of the Goldwater-Reagan wing of the GOP. The Rockefeller Wing and Santorum-Bachmann Wing have won.
    I will vote for Romney, but the Republican party of my youth is death. Its a Center-Left Big Government/Culture War hybrid that I don’t recognize.

    America needs Center-Right Party, but that must be dealt with after the election.

    The Tea Party’s biggest mistake was tying itself to the GOP. They should have started a new Libertarian/Fiscal Conservative Party in opposition to the Corrupt Islamic loving Mobsters of the GOP and Democratic Party.


  2. The Osprey
    2 | April 26, 2012 2:43 pm

    Romney needs to give Newt a cabinet position.


  3. 3 | April 26, 2012 2:44 pm

    @ Rodan:

    November 6, 2012! My calendar is marked. Until then, I am a Romney man.


  4. 4 | April 26, 2012 2:44 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    He will not do it. Romney wants to eliminate the Reagan-Goldwater Wing for the GOP. The Rockefeller Wing has won its final victory.


  5. 5 | April 26, 2012 2:46 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ The Osprey:
    He will not do it. Romney wants to eliminate the Reagan-Goldwater Wing for the GOP. The Rockefeller Wing has won its final victory.

    Time will tell if you are right or not.


  6. 6 | April 26, 2012 2:46 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    I am anti-Obama man. After Nov. 6th I am going to do a post exposing the Islamic loving Mobsters who rule the Republican Party and are manipulating well meaning people.


  7. 7 | April 26, 2012 2:47 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I accept defeat.


  8. The Osprey
    8 | April 26, 2012 2:47 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ The Osprey:

    He will not do it. Romney wants to eliminate the Reagan-Goldwater Wing for the GOP. The Rockefeller Wing has won its final victory.

    The Tea Party’s number one job is to defeat Obama.
    After that it’s to hold Romney’s feet to the fire.


  9. The Osprey
    9 | April 26, 2012 2:48 pm

    Breitbart is here!


  10. citizen_q
    10 | April 26, 2012 2:50 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    Romney needs to give Newt a cabinet position.

    I had a passing thought, that Gingrich would make an interesting Press Secretary.


  11. 11 | April 26, 2012 2:50 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    The Tea Party has been hijacked by the GOP establishment. Its failed.


  12. 12 | April 26, 2012 2:51 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    Exactly! You have to win elections before you can do anything else. I’m no Romney fan, but this is the army we have. We have to go to war with it. After the election, if Romney defeats the Obamanation, then our job will be to hold his feet to the fire and force him to govern according to our principles.


  13. 13 | April 26, 2012 2:52 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I accept defeat.

    They will be burying me centuries before I accept defeat.

    Oh, and as I have said on a number of occasions, my parents were Mormons. If Romney is anything approaching your average Practicing Mormon, he could very well turn out to be even more conservative than Ronald Reagan. Because believe it or not, that’s exactly how the majority of practicing Mormons are. Very Conservative, and not just “Socially Conservative” but very financially Conservative.


  14. 14 | April 26, 2012 2:55 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Romney comes from the Nixon wing of the GOP. He will be an economic Liberal. He also will get us into another war to promote Islamic Democracy. That will finish bankrupting this nation.

    Don’t say I didn’t warn you.


  15. 15 | April 26, 2012 2:56 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Romney comes from the Nixon wing of the GOP. He will be an economic Liberal. He also will get us into another war to promote Islamic Democracy. That will finish bankrupting this nation.
    Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

    And if it turns out you are wrong?


  16. 16 | April 26, 2012 3:00 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I know I will not be wrong. I have studied the Republican Party the last 20 years. I know who they are beholden too and who really controls them. They have an agenda and are using well meaning people.

    If I am wrong, then I will admit it. But look at Romney’s foreign policy positions. He wants war.


  17. Lily
    17 | April 26, 2012 3:00 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ The Osprey:
    He will not do it. Romney wants to eliminate the Reagan-Goldwater Wing for the GOP. The Rockefeller Wing has won its final victory.

    Time will tell if you are right or not.

    I honestly believe that Romney will surprise us. I think he will do better than many here think he will. The political climate is not the same as it was in the 80′s. No where near.


  18. 18 | April 26, 2012 3:03 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I don’t think we are going to get a war with Romney, unless there is another 9-11. More’s the pity. We need to go to war with Iran, but we won’t. We are going to sit by and let them develop nuclear weapons, and pray that they don’t use them.


  19. Lily
    19 | April 26, 2012 3:04 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:

    I know I will not be wrong. I have studied the Republican Party the last 20 years. I know who they are beholden too and who really controls them. They have an agenda and are using well meaning people.

    If I am wrong, then I will admit it. But look at Romney’s foreign policy positions. He wants war.

    You don’t think bho has an agenda? Dear heavens the man isn’t even a damn democrat to be honest he is a whole other animal. Sorry I will not accept defeat either not till the fat laday sings.


  20. Lily
    20 | April 26, 2012 3:05 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I also don’t think he wants war.. for what reason? There will have to be a reason. Plus I don’t think he will do a run-around of congress like bho is doing on a daily basis.


  21. 21 | April 26, 2012 3:06 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    Romney comes from the Nixon wing of the GOP. He will be an economic Liberal. He also will get us into another war to promote Islamic Democracy. That will finish bankrupting this nation.
    Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

    And if it turns out you are wrong?

    Romney Governed as a moderate in the most profoundly liberal state in America, Ronald Reagan Governed as a moderate in a conservative leaning Moderate state.

    Of all the things I have seen about Mitt Romney, the one thing that has troubled me the most, is that he is a ruthless pragmatic. He literally does what ever it takes to get in the position where he can dictate the terms he want’s.

    That was what offended me the most about his tenure at Bain Capital. He was utterly ruthless in getting Bain to the place where he could do what he wanted with Bain. If Willard Mitt Romney manages to make it to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. the GOP Establishment is in for a very rude awakening. Mitt will be calling the shot’s, not the GOP Establishment.


  22. citizen_q
    22 | April 26, 2012 3:07 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Jeez, I hate to say it, but how much worse can things get under Romney then obama?

    If nothing else happens, but getting obama out of office and a lot of demoncraps out of office with him, and we get rid of obamacare, it will be a huge step in the right direction. I would be pretty happy.

    We are starting our healthcare open season. My health insurance is increasing 30%. It increased 30% last year, and 24% the year before. I got a small raise this year that is swallowed up my increased insurance premiums. Thank G-d I tele-work. I shudder when I do gas my car up and I see the previous person putting $50 or $80 on the pump. Or how prices for food have jumped.

    Yet if you listen to our pravda ( our MFM ), or carney, well good times are just around the corner…. Perhaps spinach will be the energy of the future, it is green after all. /


  23. Lily
    23 | April 26, 2012 3:09 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Dorian and that might be a good thing considering that Republicans are really the new democrats of yester-year…or am I reading you wrong?


  24. Lily
    24 | April 26, 2012 3:13 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Excatly. This is going to be very bad for obama. Why? Gas is sky-rocketing, food prices are sky-rocketing, more people are un-employed and have run out of their unemployment checks. This is what obama wants in our country! Who will suffer the most for this…the old and the young and the un-employed! Yeah bho is all for the young and old and the un-employed/NOT!


  25. 25 | April 26, 2012 3:14 pm

    @ Lily:
    @ Iron Fist:

    Romney’s Islamic masters wants a war in Syria to install an Islamic government. That is the end game. Romney supported the Arab Spring and the Libya War. Meanwhile Christians are fighting for their lives in the Sudan and the GOP don’t say shit. If the South Sudanese were Muslims, the GOP would call for air-strikes on the Sudan.

    Romney and his people can’t fool me to what their real end game is.


  26. 26 | April 26, 2012 3:15 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    I am voting against Obama but after Nov. 6th I don’t have to support the Republican Party anymore.


  27. 27 | April 26, 2012 3:15 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Dorian and that might be a good thing considering that Republicans are really the new democrats of yester-year…or am I reading you wrong?

    All I am saying is, prognosticating about how any individual will lead as POTUS is a very risky business. Those of us who had done our homework about Obama got that one right. But so many president’s before Obama did not lead as was predicted. It will take about a year for us to get a sense of how Mitt will lead. If his leadership style is like it was with Bain Capital, well, Mitt took a couple of million dollars and turned it into a hundred billion a year corporation.


  28. 28 | April 26, 2012 3:18 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:

    Romney comes from the Nixon wing of the GOP. He will be an economic Liberal. He also will get us into another war to promote Islamic Democracy. That will finish bankrupting this nation.

    Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

    At some point you have to accept the situation for what it is; fighting a holy war against visually everyone who strobe yourays from your personal dogma is going to accomplish nothing. Observing you turn on Rubio as soon as he voiced a view opposed from your own tells me that there is likely no candidate who could enthusiastically support. Eventually they will all do something with which you disagree.

    As for Romney, maybe you could wait until he actually does something as President before you scream for him to be removed? Maybe you’re right, maybe not, but holding fire and awaiting results costs nothing.


  29. citizen_q
    29 | April 26, 2012 3:20 pm

    @ Rodan:
    I understand. You have been quite clear.

    My perspective is just a little different. Not that I am happy with the offerings from the GOP, but IMHO their problems almost seem quaint in comparison.


  30. 30 | April 26, 2012 3:20 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    As for Romney, maybe you could wait until he actually does something as President before you scream for him to be removed? Maybe you’re right, maybe not, but holding fire and awaiting results costs nothing.

    My thoughts exactly. And Rodan knows damned well that I dislike the GOP Leadership far more than he does.


  31. Lily
    31 | April 26, 2012 3:21 pm

    @ Rodan:

    The thing is what is BHO’s endgame????? The answer to that is even worse.
    At least Romney doesn’t hate this country and want to destroy it and re-shape it into 3rd world country.
    This isn’t the 80′s Rodan. I know you want better than Romney…so does everyone else. But, and here is the big BUT, we really want bho out of the White House, like yesterday. He is destroying our freedoms, step by step by step.


  32. 32 | April 26, 2012 3:22 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    I understand. You have been quite clear.
    My perspective is just a little different. Not that I am happy with the offerings from the GOP, but IMHO their problems almost seem quaint in comparison.

    True, but Rodan and Flyovercountry are 100 percent correct about one thing. The current GOP Leadership sucks donkey balls (yes that is a pun, ok a sick twisted pun, but a pun none the less). and have to go, or the Republican Party needs to go the way of the Whigs.


  33. 33 | April 26, 2012 3:24 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Supporting the Muslim Brotherhood is a red line for me. As a Catholic I view Islam as the enemy of my country and religion. I will not support anyone who promotes the goals of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Meanwhile, Christians are fighting in the Sudan and Rubio is silent about that. But him and Romney want to help The Muslim Brotherhood in Syria? This is madness and I can’t support that.


  34. Lily
    34 | April 26, 2012 3:24 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I agree. I think he will govern better than anyone thinks he will.
    That is all I am predicting … I certainly don’t see him rattling the sabers for war. I would rather take the chance of Romney than another 4 years of bho because we all know how that will be.


  35. 35 | April 26, 2012 3:25 pm

    @ Lily:

    I am for getting rid of Obama. But that doesn’t mean I can’t speak out against the GOP’s collusion with the Muslim Brotherhood.


  36. 36 | April 26, 2012 3:29 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Of all the things I have seen about Mitt Romney, the one thing that has troubled me the most, is that he is a ruthless pragmatic. He literally does what ever it takes to get in the position where he can dictate the terms he want’s.

    Ruthless bastards in pursuit of there goals are fine with me as long I share their goals and they’re on my side.


  37. 37 | April 26, 2012 3:30 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:
    I am for getting rid of Obama. But that doesn’t mean I can’t speak out against the GOP’s collusion with the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Nor should you stop, it is abominable that any American would even remotely consider doing that. You just happen to paint with a mile wide brush, and well honestly, you are a pretty sloppy painter at times. I’m not suggesting that you stop, hell I don’t want you to stop, or even slow down. Just keep a perspective on the difference between objectivity, and hyperbole.


  38. 38 | April 26, 2012 3:31 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    What’s if its a pasty faced Nazi obsessed Jazz Musician failed blogger?

    :lol:


  39. Lily
    39 | April 26, 2012 3:31 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I am with you there Rodan. Yet it was bho who said the muslim brotherhood is not a terrorist group. I understand how you feel. Sure I wish the GOP was better. But we are at a cross-roads right now. This election is of the likes like I have never seen before. Too much is at stake.


  40. 40 | April 26, 2012 3:32 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Of all the things I have seen about Mitt Romney, the one thing that has troubled me the most, is that he is a ruthless pragmatic. He literally does what ever it takes to get in the position where he can dictate the terms he want’s.
    Ruthless bastards in pursuit of there goals are fine with me as long I share their goals and they’re on my side.

    I’m not so fine with it, eggs and omelets and all, but I would rather the POTUS be a ruthless bastard who shares my moral ethical and ideological values, than one whose values are the antithesis of mine.


  41. 41 | April 26, 2012 3:33 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    See my #38!

    :lol:


  42. 42 | April 26, 2012 3:33 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    What’s if its a pasty faced Nazi obsessed Jazz Musician failed blogger?

    <—— throws a kumquat at Rodan….


  43. 43 | April 26, 2012 3:33 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    See my #38!

    See my #42 :razz:


  44. 44 | April 26, 2012 3:34 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    See my #38!

    See my #42

    Oh shit…. did I just start a food fight…. At lunch time????


  45. Lily
    45 | April 26, 2012 3:34 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Well one thing Rodan is…is young and full of passion. That is a good thing. :)


  46. 46 | April 26, 2012 3:34 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Rodan wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    See my #38!
    See my #42

    Oh shit…. did I just start a food fight…. At lunch time????

    :shock: :oops:


  47. 47 | April 26, 2012 3:35 pm

    @ Lily:

    I am against Obama. Heck hoe many posts have I done showing him as the POS he is. But I can’t stay silent as the GOP is supporting the Islamist agenda. That goes against my core values.


  48. 48 | April 26, 2012 3:35 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Thows a cup cake at Dorian!

    :lol:


  49. 49 | April 26, 2012 3:35 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Well one thing Rodan is…is young and full of passion. That is a good thing.

    ROTFLMAO… Passion… ya.. BWHAHAHA is that what their calling it these days… :lol: :lol: :lol:


  50. 50 | April 26, 2012 3:36 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Thows a cup cake at Dorian!

    Chocolate Bacon cup cakes… Mmmmmmmmmm my favorite… :mrgreen:


  51. 51 | April 26, 2012 3:37 pm

    @ Lily:

    I see Christians fighting in the Sudan and the Party that is on my side support Islamic rebels in Syria. It gets me really angry.


  52. Lily
    52 | April 26, 2012 3:37 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Well you did throw a kumquat. ;)


  53. 53 | April 26, 2012 3:37 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I like cake batter favors ones!


  54. 54 | April 26, 2012 3:38 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Well you did throw a kumquat.

    And Rodan threw a Chocolate Bacon cup cake back….. the Food Fight is ON baby…………. :grin:


  55. 55 | April 26, 2012 3:39 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I like cake batter favors ones!

    Then you have obviously never had a Chocolate Bacon cup cake, you clearly are living a very oppressed life… :twisted:


  56. Lily
    56 | April 26, 2012 3:41 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    I am against Obama. Heck hoe many posts have I done showing him as the POS he is. But I can’t stay silent as the GOP is supporting the Islamist agenda. That goes against my core values.

    Ah hell I don’t want you to!! It is against my core values too. The Sudan has ALWAYS been a thorn in my side, what is going on in Africa…gets no headlines. Genocide is going on in Africa and has been for awhile and the Arabs are the ones committing it.


  57. 57 | April 26, 2012 3:41 pm

    One nit-picky thing about the above agenda… Oil shale development (as opposed to shale oil development) out west, primarily in the Green River formation, is not being impeded much by the feds. It’s economics. You can’t make any money extracting it.


  58. 58 | April 26, 2012 3:41 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I’m going to try it.


  59. 59 | April 26, 2012 3:41 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    It gets me really angry.

    Pardon the sarcasm… well no shit Sherlock. :oops:


  60. Lily
    60 | April 26, 2012 3:43 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    :lol: He is very passionate concerning his view of politics!!! ;)


  61. Lily
    61 | April 26, 2012 3:45 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    I see Christians fighting in the Sudan and the Party that is on my side support Islamic rebels in Syria. It gets me really angry.

    This just didn’t happen yesterday… it has been going on for some time now. What I am really surprised at that it did get some traction in news outlets.


  62. Lily
    62 | April 26, 2012 3:46 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Well you did throw a kumquat.

    And Rodan threw a Chocolate Bacon cup cake back….. the Food Fight is ON baby………….

    I can’t throw this but <<<<<<< slides a pot of gumbo at you guys!


  63. 63 | April 26, 2012 3:47 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I’m going to try it.

    All I can say is… OH MY GOD… longboarder2 (my partner in the BlogmoCARcy dragsters) wife got good and drunk one Saturday afternoon and made us some. By my fifth cupcake I looked like a 4 year old… Bacon flavored Chocolate everywhere… :oops:

    Yea, she took a couple pounds of really thick cut bacon, and fried it up in real butter, and used the butter to make the chocolate frosting… :drool:


  64. Lily
    64 | April 26, 2012 3:49 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Never had one, never heard of one!! I do like bacon, I do like chocolate. Hmmmmmmmmmm.


  65. Bureaucat
    65 | April 26, 2012 3:50 pm

    “…and implementing productivity improvement systems, such as Lean Six Sigma, to eliminate waste and fraud.”

    We had a ton of success in Georgia during the Perdue administration doing just that. (Pet peeve:it’s not Lean Six Sigma- Lean and Six Sigma are two different approaches to process improvement).

    The State of Georgia conservatively saved hundreds of millions in improved operations -- so after the Perdue administration was over the legislature in their wisdom killed the program. Grrrr…


  66. 66 | April 26, 2012 3:51 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Never had one, never heard of one!! I do like bacon, I do like chocolate. Hmmmmmmmmmm.

    It will straight up make your eyes roll back in your head and your tongue with die and go to heaven… with every single bite… :shock:


  67. 67 | April 26, 2012 3:53 pm

    Bureaucat wrote:

    “…and implementing productivity improvement systems, such as Lean Six Sigma, to eliminate waste and fraud.”
    We had a ton of success in Georgia during the Perdue administration doing just that. (Pet peeve:it’s not Lean Six Sigma- Lean and Six Sigma are two different approaches to process improvement).
    The State of Georgia conservatively saved hundreds of millions in improved operations – so after the Perdue administration was over the legislature in their wisdom killed the program. Grrrr…

    No disrespect intended, but your a Mormon, right? As I told Rodan, my parents were Mormons, which obviously means I knew a lot of Mormons growing up. How many Mormons are Conservatives? Very Conservative conservatives, it a lot isn’t it?


  68. coldwarrior
    68 | April 26, 2012 3:54 pm

    @ Lily:
    @ doriangrey:

    maple bacon donuts.

    yumm


  69. Lily
    69 | April 26, 2012 3:55 pm

    Milking it for all it’s worth…good grief!!!

    Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, NAACP Aren’t Done Exploiting Trayvon Martin Death, Holding Rally In Los Angeles…

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/26/al-sharpton-jesse-jackson-naacp-arent-done-exploiting-trayvon-martin-death-holding-rally-in-los-angeles/


  70. 70 | April 26, 2012 3:55 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Lily:
    @ doriangrey:
    maple bacon donuts.
    yumm

    Good, but not as good as Chocolate Bacon… well anything… :razz:


  71. Bureaucat
    71 | April 26, 2012 3:57 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Bureaucat wrote:

    “…and implementing productivity improvement systems, such as Lean Six Sigma, to eliminate waste and fraud.”
    We had a ton of success in Georgia during the Perdue administration doing just that. (Pet peeve:it’s not Lean Six Sigma- Lean and Six Sigma are two different approaches to process improvement).
    The State of Georgia conservatively saved hundreds of millions in improved operations – so after the Perdue administration was over the legislature in their wisdom killed the program. Grrrr…

    No disrespect intended, but your a Mormon, right? As I told Rodan, my parents were Mormons, which obviously means I knew a lot of Mormons growing up. How many Mormons are Conservatives? Very Conservative conservatives, it a lot isn’t it?

    Like any population we have a fairly wide swing of politics but if I had to guess I’d say the bell curve leans towards the right of the political spectrum. There is a nuance- because of our belief in the right of the individual to choose I have not seen a lot of love for social conservatism (the twin of social liberalism). Mormons due to their history and religious beliefs tend to be very much a “leave me alone and let others govern themselves: kind of crowd. (My observations and not scientific).


  72. 72 | April 26, 2012 3:57 pm

    @ Lily:

    What does LA have to do with Trayvon Martin? These guys really don’t quit.


  73. 73 | April 26, 2012 3:58 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Milking it for all it’s worth…good grief!!!
    Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, NAACP Aren’t Done Exploiting Trayvon Martin Death, Holding Rally In Los Angeles…
    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/26/al-sharpton-jesse-jackson-naacp-arent-done-exploiting-trayvon-martin-death-holding-rally-in-los-angeles/

    It is my most sincere hope and prayer, that those two fry in the fires they are kindling.


  74. 74 | April 26, 2012 3:59 pm

    Bureaucat wrote:

    Mormons due to their history and religious beliefs tend to be very much a “leave me alone and let others govern themselves: kind of crowd. (My observations and not scientific).

    Mine as well, but financially, very conservative.


  75. Bureaucat
    75 | April 26, 2012 3:59 pm

    …I should add the only John Birchers I know in real life are Mormon- there seems to be a few in every region just for balance.


  76. Bureaucat
    76 | April 26, 2012 4:01 pm

    I should change my icon since I’m not a state employee any longer. Sigh.


  77. Will Consult for Food
    77 | April 26, 2012 4:05 pm

    Hows that?


  78. 78 | April 26, 2012 4:09 pm

    @ Bureaucat:

    Charles Johnson claims they are taking over!


  79. 79 | April 26, 2012 4:09 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    I’m not so fine with it, eggs and omelets and all, but I would rather the POTUS be a ruthless bastard who shares my moral ethical and ideological values, than one whose values are the antithesis of mine.

    Yeah, I hear ya, but I think you’d agree that Romney may not raise much contention in the moral, ethical or ideological department. Governors are elected to do the will of the people and the people of Massachusetts are a hell of a lot more liberal that Americans at-large. I just think some people might be pleasantly surprised.


  80. Lily
    80 | April 26, 2012 4:11 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I am thinking that they might get a better response in L.A. than they got in Florida. They are really in your face trying to gin up a racial war!


  81. Lily
    81 | April 26, 2012 4:12 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Well Dorian there is that old saying you ‘reap what you sow’. Sometimes it doesn’t come quick but it does come in the long run.


  82. Lily
    82 | April 26, 2012 4:14 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    My assuration all along! ;)


  83. Will Consult for Food
    83 | April 26, 2012 4:14 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Bureaucat:

    Charles Johnson claims they are taking over!

    He is correct. Just not in the way he thinks. As we grow in numbers we exert more influence on our community. Now who would you rather have growing in influence? People who are notoriously patriotic and law abiding or people who think they are justified in killing you if you belong to the wrong religion?


  84. citizen_q
    84 | April 26, 2012 4:17 pm

    Lily wrote:

    This just didn’t happen yesterday… it has been going on for some time now. What I am really surprised at that it did get some traction in news outlets.

    Speaking of your post number 69; Doesn’t one wonder where the heck the race grivence pimps sharpton and jackson, et al are on the wholesale murder of blacks by a-rabs?


  85. 85 | April 26, 2012 4:17 pm

    @ Lily:

    No one here is falling for it here in Florida. LA is a whole different matter!


  86. 86 | April 26, 2012 4:18 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Milking it for all it’s worth…good grief!!!
    Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, NAACP Aren’t Done Exploiting Trayvon Martin Death, Holding Rally In Los Angeles…
    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/26/al-sharpton-jesse-jackson-naacp-arent-done-exploiting-trayvon-martin-death-holding-rally-in-los-angeles/

    It is my most sincere hope and prayer, that those two fry in the fires they are kindling.

    That our First Black President hasn’t seized a “Sista Soulja moment” and denounced these two for incitement clearly shows he’s black first and POTUS second.


  87. Will Consult for Food
    87 | April 26, 2012 4:18 pm

    OK my new nickname isn’t grabbing my gravatar?! Any hints?


  88. 88 | April 26, 2012 4:18 pm

    @ Will Consult for Food:

    That’s a no brainer.

    Charles is just deranged.


  89. 89 | April 26, 2012 4:21 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Speaking of your post number 69; Doesn’t one wonder where the heck the race grivence pimps sharpton and jackson, et al are on the wholesale murder of blacks by a-rabs?

    I think their schtick is more about hatred of whites than it is about support of blacks.


  90. Will Consult for Food
    90 | April 26, 2012 4:22 pm

    Will Consult for Food wrote:

    OK my new nickname isn’t grabbing my gravatar?! Any hints?

    …and I already cleaned my cache.


  91. Lily
    91 | April 26, 2012 4:22 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    This just didn’t happen yesterday… it has been going on for some time now. What I am really surprised at that it did get some traction in news outlets.

    Speaking of your post number 69; Doesn’t one wonder where the heck the race grivence pimps sharpton and jackson, et al are on the wholesale murder of blacks by a-rabs?

    It doesn’t make any sense at all!!!!!


  92. 92 | April 26, 2012 4:23 pm

    Will Consult for Food wrote:

    OK my new nickname isn’t grabbing my gravatar?! Any hints?

    Did you go to Gravatar and link your avatar with your new email?


  93. 93 | April 26, 2012 4:24 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Thats how they make money.


  94. Will Consult for Food
    94 | April 26, 2012 4:24 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Yes. Perhaps I need to give it time. I just changed it 5 minutes ago.


  95. Lily
    95 | April 26, 2012 4:25 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    No one here is falling for it here in Florida. LA is a whole different matter!

    That is my opinion I think. They want some riots to happen like yesterday, they sure have been throwing gasoline on this and just haven’t gotten the response they want yet. Bastards. Just shows you the south isn’t as racist as msm makes it out to be.


  96. 96 | April 26, 2012 4:28 pm

    @ Lily:

    They want Riots so the OWS crowed can join in. They want to use the blacks to set off a Popular Uprising


  97. Will Consult for Food
    97 | April 26, 2012 4:28 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    Bastards. Just shows you the south isn’t as racist as msm makes it out to be.

    We had our come to Jesus moment in the 60s and 70s. Georgia State Government was the most truly and functionally diverse place I’ve ever worked (as far as the bureaucrats go).


  98. Lily
    98 | April 26, 2012 4:29 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Milking it for all it’s worth…good grief!!!
    Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, NAACP Aren’t Done Exploiting Trayvon Martin Death, Holding Rally In Los Angeles…
    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/04/26/al-sharpton-jesse-jackson-naacp-arent-done-exploiting-trayvon-martin-death-holding-rally-in-los-angeles/

    It is my most sincere hope and prayer, that those two fry in the fires they are kindling.

    That our First Black President hasn’t seized a “Sista Soulja moment” and denounced these two for incitement clearly shows he’s black first and POTUS second.

    Oh indeed, he was involved with this from the get go. Who do you think is giving the race baiters their marching orders…no other than bho. They have been to the White House since this broke and don’t tell me obama didn’t tell them to rachet it up more. Not to mention Eric Holders involvement. Scandalist to say the least.


  99. waldensianspirit
    99 | April 26, 2012 4:29 pm

    Let’s hope the Romney campaign figures out a role for Newt to play exposing the MSM


  100. 100 | April 26, 2012 4:30 pm

    @ Will Consult for Food:

    Your avatar shows up.


  101. 101 | April 26, 2012 4:30 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Thats how they make money.

    Yeah, but I think it’s about more than money. There’s as intense a hatred there as you’d find in any 50′s Klansman.


  102. 102 | April 26, 2012 4:30 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Let’s hope the Romney campaign figures out a role for Newt to play exposing the MSM

    That’s a good idea!


  103. citizen_q
    103 | April 26, 2012 4:30 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:
    Speaking of your post number 69; Doesn’t one wonder where the heck the race grivence pimps sharpton and jackson, et al are on the wholesale murder of blacks by a-rabs?
    I think their schtick is more about hatred of whites than it is about support of blacks.

    I am of the opinion their schtick is money and power without working for it.


  104. Will Consult for Food
    104 | April 26, 2012 4:32 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Will Consult for Food:

    Your avatar shows up.

    Ahhh my world is in balance again. Thanks!


  105. 105 | April 26, 2012 4:33 pm

    Will Consult for Food wrote:

    We had our come to Jesus moment in the 60s and 70s. Georgia State Government was the most truly and functionally diverse place I’ve ever worked (as far as the bureaucrats go).

    I’m not exactly a southerner, but I think the South is more “diverse” and racially tolerant than most parts of the country.


  106. Lily
    106 | April 26, 2012 4:33 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    They want Riots so the OWS crowed can join in. They want to use the blacks to set off a Popular Uprising ™

    Bingo!!! The problem is the that those who will do the Popular Uprising are cretins not your average American.


  107. waldensianspirit
    107 | April 26, 2012 4:34 pm

    Will Consult for Food wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ Will Consult for Food:
    Your avatar shows up.

    Ahhh my world is in balance again. Thanks!

    Well let’s hope you get to change it to “high roller” or so


  108. Will Consult for Food
    108 | April 26, 2012 4:34 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Let’s hope the Romney campaign figures out a role for Newt to play exposing the MSM

    That’s a good idea!

    Allen West -- Sec Def
    Newt Gingrich -- WH Press Sec
    Michael Bolton -- Sec State
    Herman Cain -- VP

    …a boy can dream.


  109. Will Consult for Food
    109 | April 26, 2012 4:35 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Will Consult for Food wrote:

    We had our come to Jesus moment in the 60s and 70s. Georgia State Government was the most truly and functionally diverse place I’ve ever worked (as far as the bureaucrats go).

    I’m not exactly a southerner, but I think the South is more “diverse” and racially tolerant than most parts of the country.

    Having lived in several regions I would say that there isn’t a gnats ass worth of difference between them. The form and appearance of the bigots and yahoos changes but we all have them.


  110. Lily
    110 | April 26, 2012 4:36 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Thats how they make money.

    Yeah, but I think it’s about more than money. There’s as intense a hatred there as you’d find in any 50′s Klansman.

    There is an agenda there …. right in time for election cycle this year.


  111. 111 | April 26, 2012 4:37 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    That is definently the prime motivation!


  112. Will Consult for Food
    112 | April 26, 2012 4:37 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Will Consult for Food wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ Will Consult for Food:
    Your avatar shows up.

    Ahhh my world is in balance again. Thanks!

    Well let’s hope you get to change it to “high roller” or so

    Thank you! I’m starting a regional office of a consulting company this week (or should be when not doing work avoidance on the blogs) and hopefully I will be my own boss any making a living by next year. I’m getting tired of looking for a corporate savior for my career.


  113. 113 | April 26, 2012 4:37 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    They want Riots so the OWS crowed can join in. They want to use the blacks to set off a Popular Uprising ™

    That’s what they did in the 60s; they haven’t even changed their playbook. If I were Romney, I’d put David Horowitz on the payroll as a consultant.


  114. Lily
    114 | April 26, 2012 4:37 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Will Consult for Food wrote:

    We had our come to Jesus moment in the 60s and 70s. Georgia State Government was the most truly and functionally diverse place I’ve ever worked (as far as the bureaucrats go).

    I’m not exactly a southerner, but I think the South is more “diverse” and racially tolerant than most parts of the country.

    It is. Where have all the riots been in the past years???????


  115. 115 | April 26, 2012 4:37 pm

    @ Will Consult for Food:

    Charles Johnson ambassador to Venezuela!
    ///


  116. 116 | April 26, 2012 4:38 pm

    @ Lily:

    In the tolerant Progressive paradise of California!


  117. 117 | April 26, 2012 4:38 pm

    Lily wrote:

    There is an agenda there …. right in time for election cycle this year.

    Welcome to 1968!


  118. Lily
    118 | April 26, 2012 4:40 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    In the tolerant Progressive paradise of California!

    Can’t forget Detroit either or New York. Things that make you go hmmmmmm?


  119. 119 | April 26, 2012 4:41 pm

    @ Lily:

    Many Southern Whites are not pure blooded Whites. That’s something no one mentions.


  120. 120 | April 26, 2012 4:42 pm

    @ Lily:

    There hasn’t been riots in NYC. For the most part everyone gets along there. There was a few incidents, no full fledged riots.

    But Detroit and other areas, yup!


  121. Lily
    121 | April 26, 2012 4:43 pm

    @ Rodan:

    No we are a mixed breed for sure. Got to realize that many practice that old time religion too, and in my state a lot of Catholics.


  122. Will Consult for Food
    122 | April 26, 2012 4:44 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Many Southern Whites are not pure blooded Whites. That’s something no one mentions.

    Lots of 1/2 -- 3/4 Cherokee in this region that look pretty European.


  123. Lily
    123 | April 26, 2012 4:45 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Gotcha on NYC…. :)


  124. 124 | April 26, 2012 4:45 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Many Southern Whites are not pure blooded Whites. That’s something no one mentions.

    Yeah, whites and blacks have been mixing it up in the South since the beginning.


  125. Lily
    125 | April 26, 2012 4:47 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Oh indeed. Still is happening. No biggie at all.


  126. Mars
    126 | April 26, 2012 4:47 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Most Mormons are highly conservative. I know most people in my ward want to know why Reid hasn’t been excommunicated. He’s violated so many LDS tenets it’s not even funny. He’s lied, cheated, supported immorality at every turn. He’s scum and shouldn’t be considered Mormon. Apparently the Vegas wards have a different view on church doctrine.


  127. Lily
    127 | April 26, 2012 4:48 pm

    Will Consult for Food wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Many Southern Whites are not pure blooded Whites. That’s something no one mentions.

    Lots of 1/2 – 3/4 Cherokee in this region that look pretty European.

    Don’t forget the Spanish, the French, and the Canadian French and heaven only knows the whole spectrum.


  128. Will Consult for Food
    128 | April 26, 2012 4:50 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Most Mormons are highly conservative. I know most people in my ward want to know why Reid hasn’t been excommunicated. He’s violated so many LDS tenets it’s not even funny. He’s lied, cheated, supported immorality at every turn. He’s scum and shouldn’t be considered Mormon. Apparently the Vegas wards have a different view on church doctrine.

    I forgot about Reid. We don’t talk about the wayward ones. Heh.


  129. Will Consult for Food
    129 | April 26, 2012 4:50 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Will Consult for Food wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Many Southern Whites are not pure blooded Whites. That’s something no one mentions.

    Lots of 1/2 – 3/4 Cherokee in this region that look pretty European.

    Don’t forget the Spanish, the French, and the Canadian French and heaven only knows the whole spectrum.

    In 10,000 years we will all look tan and slightly asian anyway. Why sweat it?


  130. 130 | April 26, 2012 4:51 pm

    @ Will Consult for Food:
    @ MacDuff:
    @ Lily:

    Its the same like Latin America. I have encountered many White Southerners who I thought where South American because they had the European with some Native mixed look.


  131. 131 | April 26, 2012 4:51 pm

    @ Will Consult for Food:

    Except Charles Johnson!

    :lol:


  132. Lily
    132 | April 26, 2012 4:52 pm

    @ Will Consult for Food:

    To me skin color is like hair color…big deal. It is what’s on the inside of a person that matters and their actions…not what color they are.


  133. Will Consult for Food
    133 | April 26, 2012 4:53 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Will Consult for Food:

    Except Charles Johnson!

    I was referring to the human race. :-p


  134. 134 | April 26, 2012 4:53 pm

    Having spent seven years passing through airports twice a day and it was quite noticeable how “beige” we’re becoming, as a nation. I think at some point in the future, we may well just intermarry ourselves out from racism.


  135. Will Consult for Food
    135 | April 26, 2012 4:54 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Will Consult for Food:

    To me skin color is like hair color…big deal. It is what’s on the inside of a person that matters and their actions…not what color they are.

    Except Gingers. Gingers have no soul.


  136. Will Consult for Food
    136 | April 26, 2012 4:55 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Having spent seven years passing through airports twice a day and it was quite noticeable how “beige” we’re becoming, as a nation. I think at some point in the future, we may well just intermarry ourselves out from racism.

    Yes and on that day we can judge people for what truly matters. Their taste in chocolate.


  137. Lily
    137 | April 26, 2012 4:55 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Having spent seven years passing through airports twice a day and it was quite noticeable how “beige” we’re becoming, as a nation. I think at some point in the future, we may well just intermarry ourselves out from racism.

    We are already doing it. The thing is we are all humans. What color we are, what hair color we have, what eye color we have….means nothing, or should mean nothing.


  138. Mars
    138 | April 26, 2012 4:57 pm

    I just got a booklet from Horowitz which details all the players in the OWS movement. If it’s still available I’d recommend everyone get a copy. We all knew some of the players, but to see all of them and their connections is amazing. Oh, and BarryO’s old buddy Joe Iosbaker previously head of the New Party (Of which BarryO was a member), is one of the leaders. Or was before coming under investigation for providing material support to Hamas and FARC.


  139. Lily
    139 | April 26, 2012 4:57 pm

    @ Will Consult for Food:

    :lol:


  140. Mars
    140 | April 26, 2012 4:59 pm

    @ Rodan:
    The racial mixing is one of the things that makes this country such a wonderful place. Also that’s why calls for reparations are absurd. How many people with slave backgrounds also had slave owners? How many people have slaves in their back ground. I know my genealogy is mostly European, but even my Danish ancestors suffered as slaves, am I to demand reparations from Denmark?


  141. Lily
    141 | April 26, 2012 5:00 pm

    @ Mars:

    Well, well, well. Nothing surprises me any more with ole bho.
    /treason, sedition, inciting violence, voter fraud, etc. pick one and he is guilty of it.


  142. Mars
    142 | April 26, 2012 5:01 pm

    @ Lily:
    It’s pretty interesting. Almost every single person who was responsible for getting OWS moving is directly tied to The Won.


  143. Lily
    143 | April 26, 2012 5:02 pm

    @ Mars:

    Excatly. There were a lot of white people who to gain voyage to here were basically slaves to the ones that payed for their trip here.
    BTW didn’t we fight a damn war against ourselves to settle this matter?


  144. Mars
    144 | April 26, 2012 5:04 pm

    https://secure.donationreport.com/productlist.html?key=SGAO0QDRJJ1J

    It’s still available. Three bucks.


  145. Lily
    145 | April 26, 2012 5:05 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ Lily:
    It’s pretty interesting. Almost every single person who was responsible for getting OWS moving is directly tied to The Won.

    That is exactly what I had guessed. He isn’t very good at hiding his agenda at all. Tea Party! Well we have to counter with Class-warfare to divide this country more and more. Although he is living the high-life and eating his cake too. He doesn’t care about us as a nation not one twit.


  146. Mars
    146 | April 26, 2012 5:06 pm

    @ Lily:
    I seem to remember something about that.


  147. Mars
    147 | April 26, 2012 5:07 pm

    @ Lily:
    He cares inasmuch as he can continue to blame all of us for all the evils in the world.


  148. 148 | April 26, 2012 5:11 pm

    @ Will Consult for Food:
    @ Lily:

    Actually, highly mixed race people tend to be very attractive; particularly if there’s some Asian in there. Nature tends to take the best of each and create racial hybrids.


  149. Lily
    149 | April 26, 2012 5:13 pm

    @ Mars:

    Yep he is turning the light off on America… just read a couple of days ago that illegals are leaving the United States because of bho’s economy. Now that is says a whole lot of how bad bho is destroying us.


  150. Lily
    150 | April 26, 2012 5:14 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    The women are very beautiful.


  151. 151 | April 26, 2012 5:15 pm

    Mars wrote:

    I just got a booklet from Horowitz which details all the players in the OWS movement. If it’s still available I’d recommend everyone get a copy. We all knew some of the players, but to see all of them and their connections is amazing. Oh, and BarryO’s old buddy Joe Iosbaker previously head of the New Party (Of which BarryO was a member), is one of the leaders. Or was before coming under investigation for providing material support to Hamas and FARC.

    The reason Horowitz doesn’t get more traction is because “Communist” doesn’t have the sting it’d once did. To a large extent, the effort to sanitize the Communism’s bloody record has been successful.


  152. Mars
    152 | April 26, 2012 5:20 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    That’s a large part of the problem. Communism is still very much the center of the battle and yet the press and public have brushed it away. I noticed the unions even dropped their ban of outright communists in 95. (Strangely I would have thought it would have been a lot earlier.)

    @ Lily:
    I’ve said many times in the past that the mixing of races was creating the most beautiful women in history. And someone actually called me racist for saying that.


  153. 153 | April 26, 2012 5:28 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    The women are very beautiful.

    My wife’s from down Nawlins way and I used to remark that it appeared that “Louisiana” was actually it’s own race. She’s got a good deal of indian which gave her dark hair, a complexion that’s just slightly darker and bright blue eyes. It’s quite a stunning combination.


  154. Mars
    154 | April 26, 2012 5:31 pm

    I’d love to get down to New Orleans for the Cigar Retailers Association show. But, I’d probably fall in love a hundred times a day. (Not to mention I’m poor and not a cigar retailer, so my chances of getting an invite are slim. Unless I become a successful online reviewer someday).


  155. RGinTN
    155 | April 26, 2012 11:27 pm

    Romney will never get my vote. He’s just another Obama. I see no reason Romney would repeal Obamacare afterall Obamacare is Romnycare.
    I hope Gringrich doesn’t endorse Romney. Santorum did in 2008 and the Romney machine used that against him.


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