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“The Arab Spring” – a disaster for the regions Christians

by Speranza ( 106 Comments › )
Filed under Anti-semitism, Christianity, Dhimmitude, Egypt, Gaza, Hamas, Iraq, Islam, Islamic Supremacism, Islamists, Israel, Libya, Middle East, Muslim Brotherhood, Palestinians, Religion, Saudi Arabia, Syria at April 26th, 2012 - 8:00 am

Only blinkered and naive fools (think John McCain and Miss Lindsey Graham) would have thought that the 2011 uprisings would usher in a more tolerant Middle East. Douglas Davis, a former senior correspondent for the Jerusalem Post, gives us the sad details. Davis writes abut the tendency of the British chattering classes to infantilize the Arab regimes i.e. not hold them accountable for their brutality and bigotry.

by Douglas Davis

If the test of the Arab Spring was its treatment of minorities, it has failed. Hopes that the region was poised to make the transition to liberal democracy have proved to be premature, trampled under the boots of the ethno-religious cleansers. The old-style corrupt despots have metastasized into even older-style Islamist xenophobes. The Arab world, already judenrein, now seems determined to slough off its Christian minority.

A few weeks ago, Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Amdullah, Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, responded to a question posed by a visiting Kuwaiti delegation. Would sharia permit churches to exist in their emirate? The sheikh’s response was categorical. Kuwait is part of the Arabian Peninsula, he said, and ‘therefore it is necessary to destroy all the churches of the region’.

The Sheikh based his ruling on a Hadith which recorded the Prophet’s deathbed declaration that, ‘There are not to be two religions in the Peninsula’, a command that has been interpreted to mean that only Islam may be practised in the region.

[.......]

Just ask the dwindling Arab Christian minorities in the region who believed their arabness would trump their Christianity — the Copts and Chaldeans, the Maronites and Melkites, the Latin Rite Catholics and Protestants, the Armenians, Syriac Orthodox, the Assyrian Church of the East and others. They have paid a high price for hanging on. Christian Arabs constituted 20 per cent of the region’s population a century ago; today, they represent about 5 per cent, and falling.The remnant of the 2,000-year-old Christian population is being decanted from the Arab world.

Take Iraq, whose liberty was won at the cost of thousands of soldiers from the Christian West. When the Americans invaded in 2003, about 1.4 million Christian Arabs called Iraq their home. Since then, some 70 churches have been burned and about 1,000 Christians killed in Baghdad alone. Three quarters of the community have fled, leading the Catholic Archbishop of Baghdad, the Revd Jean Benjamin Sleiman, to lament ‘the extinction of Christianity in Iraq and the Middle East’.

Across the border, a war-within-a-war is raging in Syria. While Homs has been besieged by the army of Bashar al-Assad over the past two months, Islamist fanatics from the ranks of the rebels found time to root out the city’s 50,000 Christians and force them to flee. The Christians of Homs, having abandoned their homes and their belongings, are now sheltering in mountain villages about 30 miles from the city. They are unlikely to return.

The Catholic News Agency reports that Syria’s Christian community has suffered terrorist attacks in other cities, too. Last month, a car bomb exploded in the Christian quarter of Aleppo, close to the Franciscan-run Church of St Bonaventure. ‘The people we are helping are very afraid,’ said Bishop Antoine Audo of Aleppo, who is overseeing a Catholic aid programme. ‘The Christians don’t know what their future will hold.’

If the Christians of Iraq and Syria are being ‘persuaded’ to leave by Islamic extremists who bomb their churches and murder their priests, so, too, are the Copts, who have lived in Egypt since the days of the pharaohs, well before the arrival of Islam in the 7th century.

Last year, some 200,000 Coptic Christians — such Christians once made up about 10 per cent of Egypt’s 80 million population — fled their homes after being subjected to killing, beatings and church-burnings in Alexandria, Luxor and Cairo. On New Year’s Day last year, 21 Copts were slaughtered in their church in Alexandria; a further 27 died in clashes with police in Cairo.

This week, the Coptic Orthodox Church announced that it was withdrawing from talks on a new Egyptian constitution because Islamist domination of the process has made its participation ‘pointless’. The haemorrhage continues. There are no such problems in the Gulf, of course, where Christians, virtually all ‘guest workers’, have no chance of becoming citizens. The Saudis have gone one step further to preserve their ethnic purity: churches and Christian worship, in line with the opinion of Sheikh Abdullah, have been outlawed (the small, isolated community of Syriacs are forced to live as ‘catacomb Christians’ and worship in secret).

[.......]

When I visited the then-mayor of Bethlehem, Elias Freij, about 30 years ago, he happily boasted that about three quarters of the population of his town, the birthplace of Christianity, was Christian. Today, after a reign of terror which included land theft, intimidation and beatings by recently arrived Islamic extremists, the figure is estimated to be down to 10 per cent. The Christians of Bethlehem, under pressure from the new Muslim majority, are quietly finding new homes wherever émigrés are permitted safer havens.

Bethlehem is a microcosm of a phenomenon that is evident throughout the Palestinian territories. Against a drumbeat of harassment, which has included calls by Muslim extremists to slaughter their Christian neighbours, half of the Palestinian Christians of Gaza have fled their homes since the Hamas putsch in 2007. In the West Bank, Christians, who once accounted for 15 per cent of the population, are now down to less than 2 per cent.

It should be noted that since the establishment of Israel — the only state in the region to guarantee freedom of worship to all faiths and the only state to have outlawed racism — the Arab Christian population has increased by an estimated 2,000 per cent.

Never mind the ‘Israeli apartheid’ myths that flourish on Britain’s university campuses. What intrigues me is why Britain’s political and media classes, normally so sensitive to humanitarian issues, turn away in the face of the very real apartheid-style oppression that persists in the Arab world; why they remain silent as Christians are persecuted and the UN Human Rights Council, which last month endorsed the human rights record of Libya’s late Muammar Gaddafi, peddles its bizarre nonsense.

At least part of the answer can be found in the tendency of the British cognoscenti, in thrall to their colonial guilt no less than their need for oil, to infantilize Arab regimes. Arabs are not held accountable for their behavior or responsible for their actions because this would contradict the script.

[......]

I once asked the Israel correspondent of the Times why he devoted so much space to Israel’s misdeeds and so little to those of the Palestinians. His response was succinct: ‘We expect more of Israel.’

There is a problem with that answer. To hold Arabs to an inferior standard, overlooking cruel excesses against a particular section of their own population and turning a blind eye to the antics of the UN Human Rights Council, carries the unpleasant whiff of ­racism.

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  1. mawskrat
    1 | April 26, 2012 8:05 am

    meet the new boss worse than
    the old boss….we got fooled
    again.


  2. MikeA
    2 | April 26, 2012 8:05 am

    Nothing to see here, move along.

    Wait, someone looked at a muslim chick in a burqa the wrong way. Stop the presses!!!!


  3. RIX
    3 | April 26, 2012 8:08 am

    Good morning. It is pretty clear tha tthe newly installed
    Islamists intend to cleanse Christians from the
    Middle East.
    Of course the Relidion of Peace plans even worse for Jews.
    Juan Wiliams to me represented the addled thinking of
    Progressives when he said (paraphrase) If you don’t
    support the election of the Muslim Brotherhood
    in Egypt, you don’t support democracy.
    Where to begin?


  4. MikeA
    4 | April 26, 2012 8:13 am

    The TSA has done it again!!!!
    These guys really are thugs.


  5. 5 | April 26, 2012 8:21 am

    @ MikeA:

    Unionized thugs. You can’t hardly fire them. Allowing the TSA to unionize was one of the stupidest things that Bush did in his checkered presidency…


  6. 6 | April 26, 2012 8:35 am

    Hmm. I saw this piece in my local paper this morning; an Army Captain, a local boy was killed in Mali of all places.

    Capt. Daniel H. Utley, a graduate of the University of Louisville, was killed Friday while serving in North Africa, according to the university’s McConnell Center.

    He had left law school at U of L to join the military after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and was serving with Army Special Operations when he was killed in Mali, said Gary L. Gregg, director of the center.

    Details of Utley’s death remain scant.

    A message left with the Special Operations command at Fort Bragg in Fayetteville, N.C., where Utley was stationed with his wife, Katie, also an Army officer, was not immediately returned. Utley’s family could not be reached for comment.

    Despite being overwhelmingly Islamic, Mali has extraordinarily good relations with the West and with the United States. While I’m not that surprised that we have Special Ops there, I’m a bit surprised at the admission that he was killed there, ya know?


  7. RIX
    7 | April 26, 2012 8:36 am

    MikeA wrote:

    The TSA has done it again!!!!
    These guys really are thugs.

    Yes they are & they seem to specialize in terrorising
    old ladies. Also little blue eyed, blond girls with their
    dolls. They fit the profile./


  8. 8 | April 26, 2012 8:37 am

    @ RIX:

    Top o’ da mornin’, RIX!


  9. RIX
    9 | April 26, 2012 8:41 am

    @ MacDuff:
    What up Mac


  10. RIX
    10 | April 26, 2012 8:44 am

    I am off to a meeting
    Let me leave yo with this thought,’”The unqualified,
    leading the unwilling into the unnessasry”
    Does that sum up our relationship with Barry Soretto?’


  11. 11 | April 26, 2012 8:46 am

    RIX wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    What up Mac

    Getting ready to fly down to Orlando for a few days to worship The Rodent. Looking forward to the change of scenery, and it’s always a good time. May 1 is our 30th anniversary; only a saint could put up with me for three decades and I’m always thankful for saints!


  12. Speranza
    12 | April 26, 2012 8:51 am

    mawskrat wrote:

    meet the new boss worse than
    the old boss….we got fooled
    again.

    and again and again.


  13. mawskrat
    13 | April 26, 2012 8:53 am

    @ MacDuff:

    congrats on 30 years

    my wife and I have 27 years married
    and 7 years we just dated.
    she was 14 when we met.>lol


  14. 14 | April 26, 2012 8:57 am

    The “Arab Spring” has produced nothing but blooming Islamic fascism; it’s like looking at your lawn, admiring the dandelions, and bragging about how lovely your flowers are. I’ll stipulate that much of this deterioration was out of Obama’s control, but branding it as an “improvement” is a classic case of peeing on our shoes and telling us it’s raining.


  15. Guggi
    15 | April 26, 2012 8:57 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    While I’m not that surprised that we have Special Ops there, I’m a bit surprised at the admission that he was killed there, ya know?

    He was serving in a training mission to help them combat the growing problem of Al Queda terrorism in North Africa. The people of Africa have lost a champion and America has lost a rising star.


  16. 16 | April 26, 2012 9:04 am

    mawskrat wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    congrats on 30 years

    my wife and I have 27 years married
    and 7 years we just dated.
    she was 14 when we met.>lol

    Thanks! I asked my wide to marry me three days after we met -- I was told by nearly everyone I’d live to regret such a hasty move……they’ve all been divorced, at least once. :D

    BTW, I’m sure your wife appreciate your chivalry!


  17. MikeA
    17 | April 26, 2012 9:08 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    mawskrat wrote:
    @ MacDuff:
    congrats on 30 years
    my wife and I have 27 years married
    and 7 years we just dated.
    she was 14 when we met.>lol
    Thanks! I asked my wide to marry me three days after we met – I was told by nearly everyone I’d live to regret such a hasty move……they’ve all been divorced, at least once.
    BTW, I’m sure your wife appreciate your chivalry!

    Dude… you better hope she diesn’t see you call her WIDE!!! ;)


  18. 18 | April 26, 2012 9:11 am

    @ MikeA:

    Good gawd!!! That’s a good way to avoid seeing 31!


  19. MikeA
    19 | April 26, 2012 9:14 am

    The problem with the Arab Spring is that the media will not report about any of the religious cleansing that is taking place cause it doesn’t follow their narrative. Once these new governments turn back to being islamic hellholes, the media will ignore it and focus on the next shiny object to distract the masses.


  20. 20 | April 26, 2012 9:18 am

    @ MikeA:

    McCain, Ms. Lindsey and Rubio says these are good people. It is our Constitutional duty to help Muslims!


  21. Speranza
    21 | April 26, 2012 9:18 am

    When I refer to blinkered and naive fools (re: The Arab Spring), sadly I might have to include Marco Rubio in that list.


  22. Speranza
    22 | April 26, 2012 9:20 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ MikeA:
    McCain, Ms. Lindsey and Rubio says these are good people. It is our Constitutional duty to help Muslims!

    From the same bunch whose forbears did not think it was our constitutional or moral duty to save the Jews of Europe by bombing the railway lines leading into Auschwitz-Birkenau.


  23. 23 | April 26, 2012 9:21 am

    Guggi wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    While I’m not that surprised that we have Special Ops there, I’m a bit surprised at the admission that he was killed there, ya know?

    He was serving in a training mission to help them combat the growing problem of Al Queda terrorism in North Africa. The people of Africa have lost a champion and America has lost a rising star.

    I’m still a bit surprised they’re so open about it. While not specifically “Black Ops”, I don’t think it was general knowledge…….then again, perhaps I just missed that particular security briefing. :D

    It’s good work; much of Africa doesn’t suffer from the rabid anti-Americanism found in the North. For all of his foibles and missteps, Bush did a lot for Africa in the way of combating AIDS and that sort of thing pays dividends in unexpected ways. I’m a firm believer in “the good you do coming back to you”.


  24. Speranza
    24 | April 26, 2012 9:22 am

    MikeA wrote:

    The problem with the Arab Spring is that the media will not report about any of the religious cleansing that is taking place cause it doesn’t follow their narrative. Once these new governments turn back to being islamic hellholes, the media will ignore it and focus on the next shiny object to distract the masses.

    Meanwhile 60 Minutes (why is that show still on the air?) airs a report blaming Israel for the declining number of Christians in the West Bank!


  25. mawskrat
    25 | April 26, 2012 9:23 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ MikeA:

    Good gawd!!! That’s a good way to avoid seeing 31!

    could cause an ice age>LOL


  26. 26 | April 26, 2012 9:28 am

    @ RIX:

    Both Parties are complicit in the ethnic cleansing of Christians.


  27. 27 | April 26, 2012 9:29 am

    @ Speranza:

    Hamas and Fatah have nothing to do with it.
    /////

    When Israel had direct control of the West Bank, Christians were doing well. When the PA was established the numbers plummeted.


  28. 28 | April 26, 2012 9:32 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Bush did a lot for Africa in the way of combating AIDS and that sort of thing pays dividends in unexpected ways.

    Bush is actually a hero in much of Africa.


  29. 29 | April 26, 2012 9:33 am

    @ Rodan:

    He should be. He did more for sub-Saharan Africa than any other American President ever. I am surprised that didn’t call him a “Neo-Colonialist” for his efforts.


  30. 30 | April 26, 2012 9:35 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Africa is the only foreign policy area I agreed with Bush on. Bono from U2 said Bush did more for Africa than any other US President.


  31. mawskrat
    31 | April 26, 2012 9:36 am

    @ Rodan:

    yes he did


  32. 32 | April 26, 2012 9:37 am

    @ mawskrat:

    That’s his only foreign policy success. The rest were failures and Obama has compounded those failures. But Bush is really beloved in Africa.


  33. Speranza
    33 | April 26, 2012 9:41 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Hamas and Fatah have nothing to do with it.
    /////
    When Israel had direct control of the West Bank, Christians were doing well. When the PA was established the numbers plummeted.

    Don’t confuse them with the facts.


  34. 34 | April 26, 2012 9:42 am

    I recall an Ethiopian fellow with whom I had a conversation years ago in St. Thomas. When he said he was from Ethiopia, he must have read the pained look on my face, for my mind’s eye immediately conjured the image of a starving child with a swollen belly and flies on his face. He freely discussed how Ethiopia had some of the most fertile farmland in all of Africa (Ethiopian coffee is like gold) and the famine was no more than political genocide. When he found I was an American, he extended his hand and thanked me for saving the lives of so many of his countrymen. He said that while the Soviets sent massive amounts of arms, the Americans sent food and for that, he had a profound fondness for Americans.

    Doing good casts a long shadow -- it’s truly God’s work. I’ve no problem with foreign aid if it’s going directly to the people who need it; what pisses me off is money going into the coffers of the very people who are causing the suffering in the first place.


  35. 35 | April 26, 2012 9:42 am

    @ Speranza:

    Rubio really is a disappointment. He has drank the Progressive foreign policy kook aid. He’s really naive. No way he should be VP.


  36. Speranza
    36 | April 26, 2012 9:46 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Rubio really is a disappointment. He has drank the Progressive foreign policy kook aid. He’s really naive. No way he should be VP.

    He is too inexperienced to be Vice President.


  37. MikeA
    37 | April 26, 2012 9:48 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Africa is the only foreign policy area I agreed with Bush on. Bono from U2 said Bush did more for Africa than any other US President.

    If a good deed by Repulican president occurs and is touted by a popular figure and the media doesn’t report it, does it still count?


  38. coldwarrior
    38 | April 26, 2012 9:55 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    (Ethiopian coffee is like gold)

    ethiopian yirgacheffe and harrar are the best.


  39. 39 | April 26, 2012 9:55 am

    @ MikeA:

    Nope, its irrelevant to the media. When Bono said that, the media was silent.


  40. 40 | April 26, 2012 9:56 am

    @ Rodan:

    More proof (as if any were needed) that the MFM (including Fox News) are in the pocket of the Democrats. If Bush had been a Democrat, he’d have won the Nobel for his work in Africa.


  41. 41 | April 26, 2012 9:57 am

    @ Speranza:

    Rubio is solid on economic and fiscal issues. But he really is too idealistic on foreign policy. He doesn’t realize how evil Islam is. He also doesn’t realize we are broke and can’t go around invading everyone.


  42. coldwarrior
    42 | April 26, 2012 10:00 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    If Bush had been a Democrat, he’d have won the Nobel for his work in Africa.

    yep.

    we would still be hearing about it


  43. 43 | April 26, 2012 10:01 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    The Pharaoh got a Nobel peace prize for winning an election.


  44. 44 | April 26, 2012 10:02 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    @ coldwarrior:

    The Irony is that Bush was Liberal, not a Conservative. His whole foreign policy was Progressive and not Rightwing. Yet the Left hated him. Makes no sense.


  45. mawskrat
    45 | April 26, 2012 10:09 am

    work calls… off to the feed and seed


  46. 46 | April 26, 2012 10:10 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    More proof (as if any were needed) that the MFM (including Fox News) are in the pocket of the Democrats. If Bush had been a Democrat, he’d have won the Nobel for his work in Africa.

    He really deserved it and that he didn’t get it is a travesty.


  47. 47 | April 26, 2012 10:11 am

    @ Rodan:

    The Left are very dogmatic and prejudiced. They hate Republicans, Liberal or Conservative, Black or White, Male or Female, Gay or Straight. The thing is, the Media should cater to the market. Fox News actually does, and it will present the conservative side, and they are making a killing because of it. OTOH, MSNBC is dogmatically Liberal even though it is a failing business model. They’ll eventually go broke, but they are doing a slow bleed. They are going to take their time dying off. You would think that there would be other news agencies that wanted to give Fox some competition, maybe even a true Right-wing media outlet, but everything that is big is willing to lose the money to stay to the Left. That isn’t really a free press nor is it markets at work. New media may change that. Certainly Breitbart has made a start at a real Right-wing media outlet.


  48. 48 | April 26, 2012 10:13 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    The media is still too strong. They are preventing The Pharaoh’s numbers from collapsing. If they did their job, Obama would not even be the Democratic nominee.


  49. 49 | April 26, 2012 10:13 am

    @ MacDuff:

    And Obama got it as an Affirmative Action bid for being so “fabulous”! It goes to show you what the Nobel Peace Prize is really all about. The Nobels are tilted Left, solidly Left. As such it has lost its meaning and relevance.


  50. 50 | April 26, 2012 10:16 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    The Nobels are tilted Left, solidly Left.

    You’re too kind, Fist. They’re quintessential international socialists.


  51. 51 | April 26, 2012 10:18 am

    @ MacDuff:

    You’re being to kind. They are Communists!


  52. 52 | April 26, 2012 10:19 am

    @ Rodan:

    I’d say that media bias accounts for between 5 and 10 percent of Obama’s approval rating, and it was the same in a negative way for Bush. The media was constantly on attack, especially after the invasion of Iraq. That is simply the reality we deal with. A truly informed electorate would throw Obama out in a massive landslide. Asis, ignorance is strength, if you are a Democrat. The ignorance of the Left may be sufficient to keep Obama in the White House. I hope not, but I think it will be close. I wonder what Rassmussen has Romney vs. Obama at today?

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Mitt Romney earning 48% of the vote, while President Obama attracts support from 45%. Four percent (4%) would vote for a third party candidate, while another three percent (3%) are undecided.

    I’ll take that, but it emphasizes what I have been saying about turnout being critical. We are up a statistically significant margine, but not beyond the margin of fraud. We need to get every voter to the polls on election day. Every single vote counts. And we had better be making preparations to challenge election fraud, because you know that it will be rampant.


  53. 53 | April 26, 2012 10:21 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Kindness is one of my major vices… 8O


  54. 54 | April 26, 2012 10:24 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    What up Mac

    Getting ready to fly down to Orlando for a few days to worship The Rodent. Looking forward to the change of scenery, and it’s always a good time. May 1 is our 30th anniversary; only a saint could put up with me for three decades and I’m always thankful for saints!

    We’re thankful you didn’t have a Communist wedding! 8)


  55. 55 | April 26, 2012 10:25 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Totally agree. That’s my estimate 5-10%. If The media was not in the tank for Obaama, he would have been challenged and defeated by another Democrat for the nomination. But our media has turned Obama into a Pharaoh god-king who can do no wrong.


  56. m
    56 | April 26, 2012 10:27 am

    @ MikeA:

    “TSA has reviewed the incident and determined that our officers followed proper screening procedures in conducting a modified pat-down on the child,” the agency said.

    Yeah, when your “proper screening procedure” is to molest women, children and old people while passing over anyone remotely islamic… you should re-think those procedures.

    Gaah!

    This makes me angry.


  57. 57 | April 26, 2012 10:30 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Its crap like this. Ben Bernanke says the Economy is awesome!


  58. MikeA
    58 | April 26, 2012 10:30 am

    @ m:

    If you look at the last few incidences with children and old people being molested and checked badly, they always give the same answer. Even AFTER you read that a supervisor had to come over and tell the thugs to back off.


  59. 59 | April 26, 2012 10:32 am

    @ m:

    Muslims wouldn’t commit terrorism, but four year old little girls are dangerous! Did you see the article I linked yesterday about the Chairman of th eJoint Chiefs nixing a course for being too truthful about our Islamic enemy? It is sad. There will be another major incident eventually. Our refusal to acknowledge who our enemy is guarantees it.


  60. 60 | April 26, 2012 10:35 am

    @ Rodan:

    I hope that, should the GOP Candidate be elected, the first person to go will be Bernanke!


  61. 61 | April 26, 2012 10:35 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Our Constitution mandates that Muslims be treated as gods. That’s why we have to go to war for them and build them schools. Both parties believe this. They can’t be wrong!
    /////


  62. m
    62 | April 26, 2012 10:43 am

    @ MikeA:

    ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    @ Iron Fist:

    No I didn’t, have a link handy (like I’m not pissed off enough already)? Work was crazy yesterday and I pretty much missed everything!

    :-/


  63. m
    63 | April 26, 2012 10:45 am

    Pakistani Taliban Kidnap Comedian For Making Fun of Them…

    Someone forgot to tell dude:

    “There IS NO FUN in islam”. -Khomeini


  64. 64 | April 26, 2012 10:46 am

    @ m:

    Here. Be prepared to be pissed off. PC is going to get people killed. I honestly think that is what Obama wants.


  65. 65 | April 26, 2012 10:50 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Kindness is one of my major vices…

    Holy Shit…. I think a rainbow colored unicorn just came flying out of my….. :shock:


  66. m
    66 | April 26, 2012 10:51 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    …determined that one of its guest lecturers was Stephen Coughlin, who has taught FBI and U.S. Army audiences that Islamic law is a danger to U.S. national security.

    Damn. That should have been a “no shit, sherlock” moment.


  67. 67 | April 26, 2012 10:51 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Don’t expect Romney to change it. The love of Islam is deep within both Parties establishment. The Saudis and Muslim Brotherhood have many Republicans and Democrats as puppets. This is way deeper than Obama. This is an American political establishment problem.


  68. m
    68 | April 26, 2012 10:52 am

    @ doriangrey:

    !

    Maybe they make a cream for that!

    ;-)


  69. 69 | April 26, 2012 10:56 am

    @ m:

    I’d think a unicorn’s horn would hurt more than IceWeasel’s strap-on… 8O


  70. m
    70 | April 26, 2012 10:58 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I’m sure. Shoot, I heard jimmah doesn’t even bitch about it anymore.

    8O


  71. 71 | April 26, 2012 10:59 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Holy Shit…. I think a rainbow colored unicorn just came flying out of my…..

    Probably just a hemorrhoid…….


  72. 72 | April 26, 2012 11:00 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    @ m:

    Jimmah was OK with getting other people’s left overs.


  73. 73 | April 26, 2012 11:05 am

    @ m:
    @ MacDuff:

    Look at the quote I am responding too…. :lol: :lol::lol:


  74. Alberta Oil Peon
    74 | April 26, 2012 11:08 am

    Time to start covertly supplying the Christians of the Middle East with chemical and biological weapons, so they can restore the balance a little. Or a lot, heh.


  75. 75 | April 26, 2012 11:08 am

    @ Rodan:

    Jimmah is a horribly weak person. I feel sorry for him, really…


  76. 76 | April 26, 2012 11:13 am

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    Time to start covertly supplying the Christians of the Middle East with chemical and biological weapons, so they can restore the balance a little. Or a lot, heh.

    If somebody “Accidentally” Nuked the middle east oh, say, Mecca, would anybody really care?


  77. 77 | April 26, 2012 11:15 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Some people would pass out candy…


  78. 78 | April 26, 2012 11:16 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Some people would pass out candy…

    Lot’s and lot’s of candy… :twisted:


  79. 79 | April 26, 2012 11:22 am

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    Time to start covertly supplying the Christians of the Middle East with chemical and biological weapons, so they can restore the balance a little. Or a lot, heh.

    I agree!


  80. citizen_q
    80 | April 26, 2012 11:22 am

    @ doriangrey:

    No skin off of my nose if a few short rounds taking out iran obliterated mekkka and medina. Could put that whole territory to good use finally. I suggest as a wild hog refuge. I hear Texas has plenty.


  81. citizen_q
    81 | April 26, 2012 11:26 am

    Today’s Darwin Award winner:

    Swiss woman dies after attempting to live on sunlight; Woman gave up food and water on spiritual journey


  82. Speranza
    83 | April 26, 2012 11:29 am

    @ citizen_q:
    Those Swiss sure are strange folks. They give their army these little knives and expect to be able to defend themselves.


  83. 84 | April 26, 2012 11:30 am

    @ citizen_q:

    She’s taking a spiritual journey now…


  84. 85 | April 26, 2012 11:31 am

    Speranza wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    Those Swiss sure are strange folks. They give their army these little knives and expect to be able to defend themselves.

    The Swiss are the most heavily armed population on the face of the earth. Even more so than the Israeli’s.


  85. citizen_q
    86 | April 26, 2012 11:35 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    @ citizen_q:
    Those Swiss sure are strange folks. They give their army these little knives and expect to be able to defend themselves.

    The Swiss are the most heavily armed population on the face of the earth. Even more so than the Israeli’s.

    I have heard that military reservists (maybe inactive as well) keep their service weapons with them at home.


  86. 87 | April 26, 2012 11:35 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    @ citizen_q:
    Those Swiss sure are strange folks. They give their army these little knives and expect to be able to defend themselves.

    The Swiss are the most heavily armed population on the face of the earth. Even more so than the Israeli’s.

    Oh, and those little knife are pretty damned cool, their almost nothing you can’t do with one of them and a roll of duct tape, just ask MacGyver…


  87. 88 | April 26, 2012 11:36 am

    @ Speranza:

    Actually the Swiss are very well armed. Its one of the few European countries that has gun rights.


  88. 89 | April 26, 2012 11:36 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Speranza wrote:
    @ citizen_q:
    Those Swiss sure are strange folks. They give their army these little knives and expect to be able to defend themselves.
    The Swiss are the most heavily armed population on the face of the earth. Even more so than the Israeli’s.

    I have heard that military reservists (maybe inactive as well) keep their service weapons with them at home.

    Every Swiss citizen does, not just the reservists.


  89. 90 | April 26, 2012 11:36 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Yup, the voted down Gun control.


  90. 91 | April 26, 2012 11:38 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Actually the Swiss are very well armed. Its one of the few European countries that has gun rights.

    I don’t think “Gun Rights” applies to Switzerland, since they are all required by law to own a rifle.


  91. 92 | April 26, 2012 11:38 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Right and they voted down Gun Control.


  92. m
    93 | April 26, 2012 11:44 am

    @ doriangrey:

    I know but it was too easy to let it slide!


  93. 94 | April 26, 2012 11:45 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Right and they voted down Gun Control.

    And not by a small margin either. Like Israel every Swiss Citizen (except those physically incapable) are required to serve a minimum of two years in the Swiss Military. They are then required by law to keep their military issued weapon for a minimum of 10 years, and maintain a minimum of at least one week a year of training to keep their skills up to date.

    After 10 years they are suppose to turn in their military issued weapon and purchase a civilian version of that weapon (very few actually ever turn their military issued weapons in) and nearly everyone purchases the required civilian grade weapon (which would be classified here in the US as an assault weapon).


  94. 95 | April 26, 2012 11:45 am

    m wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I know but it was too easy to let it slide!

    :razz:


  95. m
    96 | April 26, 2012 11:46 am

    @ Rodan:

    I think he was just being cute-sy!


  96. 97 | April 26, 2012 11:47 am

    m wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    I think he was just being cute-sy!

    Of course he was… but to quote someone else here…m wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    I know but it was too easy to let it slide!


  97. 98 | April 26, 2012 11:48 am

    @ m:

    Oh I know. I was just pointing out for the record how well armed the Swiss are.


  98. 99 | April 26, 2012 11:49 am

    @ doriangrey:

    The Swiss are no joke.


  99. 100 | April 26, 2012 11:49 am

    @ doriangrey:

    And not by a small margin either.

    It took everyone by surprise.


  100. 101 | April 26, 2012 11:50 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    The Swiss are no joke.

    Which is not to say that their isn’t plenty about the Swiss to joke about, just not when it come to their being armed.


  101. 102 | April 26, 2012 11:51 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    And not by a small margin either.
    It took everyone by surprise.

    Everyone except the average Swiss Citizen. :shock:


  102. m
    103 | April 26, 2012 12:13 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    LOL! Easy pickens ~:D


  103. RIX
    104 | April 26, 2012 12:24 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    Yo, yo has a god trip, what, what!


  104. Speranza
    105 | April 26, 2012 1:35 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    @ citizen_q:
    I know, I was just joking.


  105. Alberta Oil Peon
    106 | April 26, 2012 1:52 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Today’s Darwin Award winner:
    Swiss woman dies after attempting to live on sunlight; Woman gave up food and water on spiritual journey

    Y r u mockink photosynthesizrz?


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