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SEALs slam Obama for exploiting them for campaign purposes

by Speranza ( 196 Comments › )
Filed under Al Qaeda, Anti-Jihad, Barack Obama, Elections 2012, Islamists, Pakistan at May 1st, 2012 - 5:00 pm

This whole attempt to spike the ball a year after the bin Laden killing is absolutely disgraceful. Obama trying to come across as a National Security hawk is laughable when you consider that it was the Bush era policies of , Guantanamo Bay, water boarding and phone monitoring that ultimately lead to the bin Laden killing.

by Toby Harnden

Serving and former US Navy SEALs have slammed President Barack Obama for taking the credit for killing Osama bin Laden and accused him of using Special Forces operators as ‘ammunition’ for his re-election campaign.

The SEALs spoke out to MailOnline after the Obama campaign released an ad entitled ‘One Chance’.

In it President Bill Clinton is featured saying that Mr Obama took ‘the harder and the more honourable path’ in ordering that bin Laden be killed. The words ‘Which path would Mitt Romney have taken?’ are then displayed.

Besides the ad, the White House is marking the first anniversary of the SEAL Team Six raid that killed bin Laden inside his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan with a series of briefings and an NBC interview in the Situation Room designed to highlight the ‘gutsy call’ made by the President.

Mr Obama used a news conference today to trumpet his personal role and imply that his Republican opponent Mr Romney, who in 2008 expressed reservations about the wisdom of sending troops into Pakistan, would have let bin Laden live.

‘I said that I’d go after bin Laden if we had a clear shot at him, and I did,’ Mr Obama said. ‘If there are others who have said one thing and now suggest they’d do something else, then I’d go ahead and let them explain it.’

Ryan Zinke, a former Commander in the US Navy who spent 23 years as a SEAL and led a SEAL Team 6 assault unit, said: ‘The decision was a no brainer. I applaud him for making it but I would not overly pat myself on the back for making the right call.

‘I think every president would have done the same. He is justified in saying it was his decision but the preparation, the sacrifice – it was a broader team effort.’

[.........]

Mr Obama has faced criticism even from allies about his decision to make a campaign ad about the bin Laden raid. Arianna Huffington, an outspoken liberal who runs the left-leaning Huffington Post website, roundly condemned it.

She told CBS: ‘We should celebrate the fact that they did such a great job. It’s one thing to have an NBC special from the Situation Room… all that to me is perfectly legitimate, but to turn it into a campaign ad is one of the most despicable things you can do.’

Campaigning in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, Mr Romney responded to a shouted question by a reporter by saying: ‘Even Jimmy Carter would have given that order.’

A serving SEAL Team member said: ‘Obama wasn’t in the field, at risk, carrying a gun. As president, at every turn he should be thanking the guys who put their lives on the line to do this. He does so in his official speeches because he speechwriters are smart.

[.........]’

Chris Kyle, a former SEAL sniper with 160 confirmed and another 95 unconfirmed kills to his credit, said: ‘The operation itself was great and the nation felt immense pride. It was great that we did it.

‘But bin Laden was just a figurehead. The war on terror continues. Taking him out didn’t really change anything as far as the war on terror is concerned and using it as a political attack is a cheap shot.

[.........]

Senior military figures have said that Admiral William McRaven, a former SEAL who was then head of Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) made the decision to take bin Laden out. Tactical decisions were delegated even further down the chain of command.

Mr Kyle added: ‘He’s trying to say that Romney wouldn’t have made the same call? Anyone who is patriotic to this country would have made that exact call, Democrat or Republican. Obama is taking more credit than he is due but it’s going to get him some pretty good mileage.’

A former intelligence official who was serving in the US government when bin Laden was killed said that the Obama administration knew about the al-Qaeda leader’s whereabouts in October 2010 but delayed taking action and risked letting him escape.

[........]

Brandon Webb, a former SEAL who spent 13 years on active duty and served in Iraq and Afghanistan, said: ‘Bush should get partial credit for putting the system in place.

‘Obama inherited a very robust package with regards to special ops and the intelligence community. But Obama deserves credit because he got bin Laden – you can’t take that away from him.

‘My friends that work in Special Operations Command (SOCOM) that have been on video teleconferences with Obama on these kill or capture situations say that Obama has no issue whatsoever with making decisions and typically it’s kill. He’s hitting the kill button every time. I have a lot of respect for him for that.’

But he said that many SEALs were dismayed about the amount of publicity the Obama administration had generated about SEAL Team Six, the very existence of which is highly classified.

‘The majority of the SEALs I know are really proud of the operation but it does become “OK, enough is enough – we’re ready to get back to work and step out of the limelight.” They don’t want to be continuously paraded around a global audience like a show dog.

[.........]

It was ‘stretching a little much’ for Mr Obama to suggest only he would have made the decision. ‘I personally I don’t think Romney would have any problem making tough decisions. He got a very accomplished record of making decision as a business professional.

‘He may not have charisma but he clearly has leadership skills. I don’t think he’d have any problem taking that decision.’

Clint Bruce, who gave up the chance of an NFL career to serve as a SEAL officer before retiring as a lieutenant after nine years, said: ‘We were extremely surprised and discouraged by the publicity because it compromises the ability of those guys to operate.

‘It’s a waste of time to speculate about who would and wouldn’t have made that decision. It was a symphony of opportunity and intelligence that allowed this administration to give the green light. We want to acknowledge that they made that decision.

‘Politicians should let the public know where they stand on national security but not in the play-by-play, detailed way that has been done recently. The intricacies of national security should not become part of stump speeches.’

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  1. taxfreekiller
    1 | May 1, 2012 5:10 pm

    Some one from the Fox News group.

    Get this question to Obama and the cut and run Democrats.

    “Who is Sgt. Jerry Michael Shriver U.S. Army/Special Forces S.O.G.?”
    “Where is Sgt. Jerry Michael Shriver now”?
    Why?


  2. taxfreekiller
    2 | May 1, 2012 5:12 pm

    Obama is LBJ down to the big ugly ears and lack of soul.


  3. 3 | May 1, 2012 5:16 pm

    At least the SEALs are honored for their contribution. Without the enhanced interrogation techniques that Obama vehemently opposed we never would have got Bin Laden. Former head of the CIA’s Clandestine Service Jose Rodriguez was vilified as a torturer and if not for the help of friends would have gone bankrupt defending himself from the Justice Department’s witch hunt. The case was finally dropped in 2010.


  4. Mars
    4 | May 1, 2012 5:26 pm

    The facts are clear. Obama let the scumbag live free for one year before the call was made. Most experts seem to agree that only one to two months prep would have been required. Hell, most say it could have been done in 48 hours.

    There’s also a lot of evidence out there right now, that The Won didn’t really even make the call. It was done and he was advised.


  5. 5 | May 1, 2012 5:31 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:
    Did you know Mad Dog?


  6. buzzsawmonkey
    6 | May 1, 2012 5:31 pm

    I got bin Laden
    Is there anyone awesome as me?
    I got bin Laden
    But would not if I were Mitt Romney…


  7. Bob in Breckenridge
    7 | May 1, 2012 5:41 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    I got bin Laden
    Is there anyone awesome as me?
    I got bin Laden
    But would not if I were Mitt Romney…

    Next thing you know he’ll be claiming he flew the helicopters, fired the fatal headshot, and carried bin Laden’s corpse back to the chopper.


  8. eaglesoars
    8 | May 1, 2012 5:45 pm

    Mars wrote:

    Most experts seem to agree that only one to two months prep would have been required. Hell, most say it could have been done in 48 hours.

    Baloney. The only ‘experts’ are the SEALS and they’re not talking


  9. Lily
    9 | May 1, 2012 5:47 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    Nope…Michelle flew the helo while bho carried out the whole mission.
    She did say WE got bin laden.


  10. RIX
    10 | May 1, 2012 5:48 pm

    By DARIUS DIXON | 4/30/12 1:17 PM EDT Updated: 5/1/12 6:13 AM EDT
    Huffington Post editor-in-chief Arianna Huffington said Monday that making a campaign ad about the killing of Osama bin Laden, as President Barack Obama has done, “is one of the most despicable things you can do.”

    Even Zsa Zsa bailed on him.


  11. Lily
    11 | May 1, 2012 5:50 pm

    @ RIX:

    Says a lot doesn’t it. He is over playing his hand on this way too far. It’s over the top hubris. We all know who got bin laden…the Seals. They were just given the green-light.


  12. RIX
    12 | May 1, 2012 5:50 pm

    @ Bob in Breckenridge:

    Next thing you know he’ll be claiming he flew the helicopters, fired the fatal headshot, and carried bin Laden’s corpse back to the chopper

    .

    And personaly performed the Muslim burial rites.
    Ok, maybe he won’t claim that.


  13. RIX
    13 | May 1, 2012 5:52 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Says a lot doesn’t it. He is over playing his hand on this way too far. It’s over the top hubris. We all know who got bin laden…the Seals. They were just given the green-light.

    He is looking childish & narsissitic. Pretty accurate.


  14. Lily
    14 | May 1, 2012 5:53 pm

    @ RIX:

    And personaly performed the Muslim burial rites.
    Ok, maybe he won’t claim that

    Why did we do that???? We should have buried him either like the Jewish people do or the Christians do. Now that is what he deserved.


  15. Mars
    15 | May 1, 2012 5:55 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Yes, because all ex-special forces forget everything they knew when they were in.

    Forget it, all anyone wants to do is fight around here anymore.


  16. buzzsawmonkey
    16 | May 1, 2012 5:58 pm

    I Got Bin Laden
    —apologies to Bob Marley and “I Shot the Sheriff”

    I got bin Laden
    Is there anyone awesome as me?
    I got bin Laden
    But would not if I were Mitt Romney

    All around the USA
    I’m bragging left and right
    Because Osama bin Laden’s dead
    In a SEAL firefight
    I say…

    I got bin Laden
    Well, it really was the Navy SEALS
    I got bin Laden
    Where are the adulatory squeals?

    I never served in the military
    Nor was tested in my life
    The most difficult thing I ever did
    Was contradict my wife
    I say…

    I got bin Laden
    Though I was not involved in the plan
    I got bin Laden
    And I’ll broadcast from Afghanistan

    Though now I’ll claim that personally
    I nailed up his hide
    The word is out from Washington
    I took sixteen hours to decide
    I say…

    I got bin Laden
    And I say that it’s a “gutsy call”
    I got bin Laden
    Remember election comes this fall

    Even though Senator McCain said
    Heroes don’t brag at all
    Once more I take Osama’s head
    And spike it like a football
    I say…

    I got bin Laden
    Is there anyone awesome as me?
    I got bin Laden
    Please forget ’bout the economy…


  17. 17 | May 1, 2012 6:01 pm

    Why did we even announce we had killed him? We should have at least gotten as much mileage out of the intel bonanza as we could before announcing it. BTW the timing of the trip to Afghanistan was coincidental according to Obama. The man really thinks the American people are all idiots, but then again he’s only half wrong.


  18. RIX
    18 | May 1, 2012 6:01 pm

    @ Lily:

    Why did we do that???? We should have buried him either like the Jewish people do or the Christians do. Now that is what he deserved.

    Personaly.I think that Bin Laden should have been laid
    face down in a shallow grave, with raw bacon in his mouth.
    He was a savage monster in life & deserved no respect.
    I must be one of those hateful Islamphobes that Jumbo
    Johnson is always talking about.


  19. 19 | May 1, 2012 6:03 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    One of your best.


  20. RIX
    20 | May 1, 2012 6:05 pm

    I just saw at the DoD that Ludwig has returned to LGF.
    That crazy bastard! Life is fun again!


  21. Lily
    21 | May 1, 2012 6:11 pm

    @ Mars:

    Don’t leave Mars. Really don’t. You have great insight especially when it comes to psychology. Don’t let someone who disagrees with you get you down. There are a few people who disagree with me! I still hang! ;)


  22. Lily
    22 | May 1, 2012 6:13 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Why did we do that???? We should have buried him either like the Jewish people do or the Christians do. Now that is what he deserved.

    Personaly.I think that Bin Laden should have been laid
    face down in a shallow grave, with raw bacon in his mouth.
    He was a savage monster in life & deserved no respect.
    I must be one of those hateful Islamphobes that Jumbo
    Johnson is always talking about.

    That works too. He should have never given the Islamic burial that the one gave him. He was an enemy for heaven’s sake!!


  23. Lily
    23 | May 1, 2012 6:15 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I just saw at the DoD that Ludwig has returned to LGF.
    That crazy bastard! Life is fun again!

    Really? The mental institution finally gave him a green-light???


  24. Lily
    24 | May 1, 2012 6:16 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    I’m sure a lot of ex-seals have expressed their opinion of the mission.


  25. RIX
    25 | May 1, 2012 6:17 pm

    @ Lily:

    That works too. He should have never given the Islamic burial that the one gave him. He was an enemy for heaven’s sake!!

    Watching the rites for OBL at sea with an Imam presiding,
    all that I could think of is the people jumping out of the
    windows to their death from the Towers.
    It seems like much of America has just moved on.


  26. Mars
    26 | May 1, 2012 6:18 pm

    I just don’t know lately. It seems like everytime I come here someone’s sniping at someone else. Hell, half the time it’s either a fight, or Rodan is yelling some “oh, woe the world is ending”. I get enough depressing things at home without coming online to get depressed.


  27. RIX
    27 | May 1, 2012 6:18 pm

    Lily wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    I just saw at the DoD that Ludwig has returned to LGF.
    That crazy bastard! Life is fun again!
    Really? The mental institution finally gave him a green-light???

    I guess that he is getting better. Maybe supervised weekends?


  28. Mars
    28 | May 1, 2012 6:19 pm

    @ Lily:
    The headline of this thread proves that.

    SEALs slam Obama for exploiting them for campaign purposes

    Seems someones talking.


  29. RIX
    29 | May 1, 2012 6:20 pm

    Later Taters


  30. Speranza
    30 | May 1, 2012 6:20 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ Lily:
    The headline of this thread proves that.
    SEALs slam Obama for exploiting them for campaign purposes
    Seems someones talking.

    I’m glad someone is.


  31. eaglesoars
    31 | May 1, 2012 6:21 pm

    Mars wrote:

    It seems like everytime I come here someone’s sniping at someone else

    I’m sorry. I wasn’t sniping. Just disagreeing.

    [[Mars}}


  32. Lily
    32 | May 1, 2012 6:21 pm

    @ Mars:

    Hang! You have a great insight into psychology! I like your posts.
    Don’t get depressed over someones opinion even Rodan would tell you that. Stay Mars you have more friends than you think you have. Just because someone disagrees means nothing. Different opinion is all.
    Stay! ;)


  33. Speranza
    33 | May 1, 2012 6:22 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    At least the SEALs are honored for their contribution. Without the enhanced interrogation techniques that Obama vehemently opposed we never would have got Bin Laden. Former head of the CIA’s Clandestine Service Jose Rodriguez was vilified as a torturer and if not for the help of friends would have gone bankrupt defending himself from the Justice Department’s witch hunt. The case was finally dropped in 2010.

    I saw Jose Rodriguez last night on Sean Hannity and this morning on Fox & Friends and he came across as intelligent, reasonable and patriotic.


  34. Lily
    34 | May 1, 2012 6:23 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Mars wrote:

    It seems like everytime I come here someone’s sniping at someone else

    I’m sorry. I wasn’t sniping. Just disagreeing.

    [[Mars}}

    See even {eaglesoars} likes your posts. She is good people.
    /last night {Mars} caught hell.


  35. Speranza
    35 | May 1, 2012 6:23 pm

    Lily wrote:

    That works too. He should have never given the Islamic burial that the one gave him. He was an enemy for heaven’s sake!!

    He should have been fed to the sharks or crocodiles. Showing his shot up corpse respect was disrespectful to our brave men.


  36. Lily
    36 | May 1, 2012 6:24 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ Lily:
    The headline of this thread proves that.

    SEALs slam Obama for exploiting them for campaign purposes

    Seems someones talking.

    I don’t think the military likes bho all that much. Yeah someone is talking.


  37. Speranza
    37 | May 1, 2012 6:24 pm

    @ Lily:
    I agree.


  38. Lily
    38 | May 1, 2012 6:26 pm

    Mars …. for you!


  39. Mars
    39 | May 1, 2012 6:28 pm

    When I said experts I’m referring to the fact that there’s a lot of ex-special forces out there that are SERIOUSLY questioning why it took a year for the op. We’ve taken out other leaders in less than 48 hours. We knew where he was, what he was doing, who came in and went out (BTW that would be the only reason to keep him alive for a year), and there’s always the worry that your target is going to flee to a new hole.


  40. Lily
    40 | May 1, 2012 6:30 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Indeed! Not only that disrespect to all the people who died on 9/11!
    /*spit*


  41. NoThreat2U
    41 | May 1, 2012 6:31 pm

    @ Lily:
    {{{Lily} I find that most of the time, people who have differences of opinion usually come around and find common ground. A little bit of this and a little bit of that usually creates a concensus.


  42. Lily
    42 | May 1, 2012 6:31 pm

    @ Mars:

    There you go assert your opinion.


  43. Mars
    43 | May 1, 2012 6:32 pm

    I doubt I’m going anywhere. I took a break a couple months ago, and then for a couple weeks after my fathers death. I just occasionally wonder if my break was long enough.


  44. Lily
    44 | May 1, 2012 6:32 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Excatly we need that back and forth so we aren’t a damn echo chamber!
    ;)


  45. Mars
    45 | May 1, 2012 6:33 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:
    Unless you have the audacity to disagree with a democrat.


  46. eaglesoars
    46 | May 1, 2012 6:33 pm

    @ Mars:

    Yes. But they still had to determine:

    - how many civilians in the house

    - the probable layout of the house

    - ‘normal’ traffice in and out

    (all of which required months of surveilance)

    - how to go in? drones, boots on the ground?

    boots on the ground was chosen because there was less chance for harm to civilians and also because of the possible retrieval of a treasure trove of intelligence.


  47. Lily
    47 | May 1, 2012 6:34 pm

    @ Mars:

    Very sorry for your lose {Mars}. You are still a bit tender.
    Listen to the song I posted for you!


  48. brookly red
    48 | May 1, 2012 6:34 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Mars wrote:

    @ Lily:
    The headline of this thread proves that.

    SEALs slam Obama for exploiting them for campaign purposes

    Seems someones talking.

    I don’t think the military likes bho all that much. Yeah someone is talking.

    when I read that on Drudge today my first thought was swiftboats


  49. NoThreat2U
    49 | May 1, 2012 6:35 pm

    @ Lily:
    So true. Show of hands…how many here have wanted to strangle Rodan or Dorian at one time or another??? lol

    @ Mars:
    Well when it comes to democrats if they dont learn from what I am telling them, I just beat them into submission. lol


  50. Mars
    50 | May 1, 2012 6:36 pm

    Part of it is, I’m just tired. I’ve gone through quite a bit lately, I’m trying to raise my kids, I thought I was engaged and it went down the crapper, I’m having to sleep 12-14 hours a day just to get 8 hours thanks to my damn apnea (still waiting for the VA to get an opening for my sleep study).

    But, whoever recommended the Ibuprofen for the arthritis hit it out of the park, cleared the pain and stiffness right up. I was using Acetaminophen and Naproxen.


  51. eaglesoars
    51 | May 1, 2012 6:36 pm

    Mars wrote:

    I took a break a couple months ago, and then for a couple weeks after my fathers death

    I didn’t know about your father’s passing. I’m very sorry. Both my parents passed. I know how hard it is.

    And it’s GOOD that you take breaks. I take ‘em all the time -- especially from newspapers, which I really have to read from my job. If it’s good for your mental health DO IT.

    I escape into spy novels.


  52. Bob in Breckenridge
    52 | May 1, 2012 6:37 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Rancher wrote:
    At least the SEALs are honored for their contribution. Without the enhanced interrogation techniques that Obama vehemently opposed we never would have got Bin Laden. Former head of the CIA’s Clandestine Service Jose Rodriguez was vilified as a torturer and if not for the help of friends would have gone bankrupt defending himself from the Justice Department’s witch hunt. The case was finally dropped in 2010.

    I saw Jose Rodriguez last night on Sean Hannity and this morning on Fox & Friends and he came across as intelligent, reasonable and patriotic.

    But, but, but…They made the muzz scum drink Ensure. ENSURE, for God’s sake!!! TORTURERS, one and all!!!

    /That libturd imbecile 60 Minutes reporter Lesley Stahl…


  53. Mars
    53 | May 1, 2012 6:40 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Yeah, I’d like to escape into my PC games or my books on my tablet, but because I don’t have a home of my own at present, I’m under the whims of other forces. Plus, my kids will always be a huge demand on my time, that I wouldn’t change. The real pain is: I had my kids one week on one week off for a couple years, now I’m the only parent except weekends. I’m not sure how I’ll deal with going back to one on one off.


  54. Lily
    54 | May 1, 2012 6:41 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Someone is hitting back at bho. Good! Makes me smile! ;)


  55. Lily
    55 | May 1, 2012 6:44 pm

    @ Mars:

    That would be {Calo}! ;)
    /glad you are getting some pain relief.


  56. NoThreat2U
    56 | May 1, 2012 6:45 pm

    @ Mars:
    Hang in there, We are all here for each other. I dont think a single one of us has had a personal crisis where everyone was not right there with us. It all might suck now, but do what I do…God doesn’t close one door without opening another. I will say a prayer for you tonite so that you may have peace of mind.


  57. Lily
    57 | May 1, 2012 6:45 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    :lol: :lol: :lol:


  58. Mars
    58 | May 1, 2012 6:47 pm

    Thanks all. Everything will fall into place if the VA just gives me enough of an increase. Yeah, I know, counting on the VA is never a good thing.

    I found a place to live, but unless the VA comes through I won’t be able to afford it. (Plus I have to help get the place cleaned up and repaired and I never can catch the owner.)


  59. coldwarrior
    59 | May 1, 2012 6:48 pm

    Mars wrote:

    But, whoever recommended the Ibuprofen for the arthritis hit it out of the park, cleared the pain and stiffness right up. I was using Acetaminophen and Naproxen.

    good, acetaminophen does nothing for the actual inflammation except mask the pain and it can do a real number on your liver if you arent careful

    ibuprofen will reduce swelling as it is an excellent COX enzyme inhibitor as well as an analgesic…it can be hard on the stomach tho.


  60. Lily
    60 | May 1, 2012 6:48 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    I escape into books or movies or whatever, got have a break though from what is going on politically or it will drive you nuts!!! ;)


  61. Mars
    61 | May 1, 2012 6:51 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yeah my brothers liver numbers were out of whack because of the amount of aspirin he takes for his migraines.


  62. NoThreat2U
    62 | May 1, 2012 6:52 pm

    @ Lily:
    That is how I live my life these days. I like passing encouragement on to others. If I can do it…anyone can. I stumble, falter and have moments of weakness, but I still wake up everyday with another chance.


  63. 63 | May 1, 2012 6:53 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I saw Jose Rodriguez last night on Sean Hannity

    He flat out said Pelosi was lying when she said she wasn’t told about the water boarding. On Hannity’s radio show today he mentions that extensive notes are taken during those briefings.

    Not that we didn’t know the harridan was lying.


  64. Speranza
    64 | May 1, 2012 6:53 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    Someone is hitting back at bho. Good! Makes me smile!

    God forbid McCain would’ve hit back four years ago!


  65. Lily
    65 | May 1, 2012 6:54 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Oh which reminds of a song…for you {NT2U}!


  66. Speranza
    66 | May 1, 2012 6:54 pm

    Rancher wrote:

    He flat out said Pelosi was lying when she said she wasn’t told about the water boarding. On Hannity’s radio show today he mentions that extensive notes are taken during those briefings.

    Not that we didn’t know the harridan was lying.

    I was very much impressed by Mr. Rodriguez. He came across very thoughtful, soft spoken and articulate.


  67. Speranza
    67 | May 1, 2012 6:55 pm

    Mars wrote:

    I doubt I’m going anywhere. I took a break a couple months ago, and then for a couple weeks after my fathers death. I just occasionally wonder if my break was long enough.

    Sorry abut your dad.


  68. coldwarrior
    68 | May 1, 2012 6:56 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yeah my brothers liver numbers were out of whack because of the amount of aspirin he takes for his migraines.

    aspirin will mess up your hearing and your gut, however, it is my go to as i take 325 every morning anyway for the anti-platelet action.


  69. Lily
    69 | May 1, 2012 6:56 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    Someone is hitting back at bho. Good! Makes me smile!

    God forbid McCain would’ve hit back four years ago!

    Didn’t want to appear raaaaaaaacist. Good heavens that word has been used in overdrive for the past 3 1/2 years.


  70. eaglesoars
    70 | May 1, 2012 6:56 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I was very much impressed by Mr. Rodriguez.

    Oh yeah. I’m gonna download his book.


  71. Speranza
    71 | May 1, 2012 6:56 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yeah my brothers liver numbers were out of whack because of the amount of aspirin he takes for his migraines.

    A few years ago my liver number was a bit elevated due to acetaminophen. I got it under control.


  72. Mars
    72 | May 1, 2012 6:57 pm

    http://www.ted.com/talks/peter_diamandis_abundance_is_our_future.html

    I posted a link to this the yesterday. If you’re ever feeling down about the way things are going, you have to listen to or read this guy. Apparently you can also read the first chapter of his book at http://www.abundancethebook.com

    I don’t know his politics, but his view of the future is awesome. He believes that we will soon have enough of everything all around the world. He also says it will be industry that will do this.


  73. Speranza
    73 | May 1, 2012 6:57 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Didn’t want to appear raaaaaaaacist. Good heavens that word has been used in overdrive for the past 3 1/2 years.

    That old coot never really wanted to win anyway.


  74. Speranza
    74 | May 1, 2012 6:57 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Oh yeah. I’m gonna download his book.

    I am sure that it is a good read.


  75. Lily
    75 | May 1, 2012 6:58 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Lily:
    That is how I live my life these days. I like passing encouragement on to others. If I can do it…anyone can. I stumble, falter and have moments of weakness, but I still wake up everyday with another chance.

    One day at a time. Sounds like my life. How you doing? Hope you are hanging in there.
    /prayers to you and Mars…. ;)


  76. eaglesoars
    76 | May 1, 2012 6:58 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Mars wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    Yeah my brothers liver numbers were out of whack because of the amount of aspirin he takes for his migraines.
    aspirin will mess up your hearing and your gut, however, it is my go to as i take 325 every morning anyway for the anti-platelet action.

    Hey CW -- do you have an opinion on St. John’s Wort vis a vis mild depression. A friend of mine who takes it recommended it to me. I’ve only been taking it for 2 wks (900 mg/day) but it does seem to help.


  77. Mars
    77 | May 1, 2012 6:59 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Didn’t help my ex, but it turned out she was bi-polar (a fact she now denies as mistaken diagnoses.)


  78. coldwarrior
    78 | May 1, 2012 7:02 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Hey CW – do you have an opinion on St. John’s Wort vis a vis mild depression. A friend of mine who takes it recommended it to me. I’ve only been taking it for 2 wks (900 mg/day) but it does seem to help.

    it works.

    HOWEVER….it has a ton of bad interactions with other meds, do your research and dose minimally.


  79. coldwarrior
    79 | May 1, 2012 7:04 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Didn’t help my ex, but it turned out she was bi-polar (a fact she now denies as mistaken diagnoses.)

    its not for bi-polar. its for depression and somatoform disorders.


  80. NoThreat2U
    80 | May 1, 2012 7:08 pm

    @ Lily:
    “Got you in a stranglehold democrat…” lol

    @ Lily:
    I am hanging in there, no other option. What happens happens. All I can do is make the most of every day I have. {{{Lily}}}


  81. Lily
    81 | May 1, 2012 7:10 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    {NT2U] glad you are keeping your spirits up! :)
    /thought you might like that song!


  82. Mars
    82 | May 1, 2012 7:10 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Exactly, that’s why I made her go to a Psychiatrist when it wasn’t working.


  83. eaglesoars
    83 | May 1, 2012 7:10 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    it has a ton of bad interactions with other meds, do your research and dose minimally.

    I did. The only pertinent med was birth control pills (which I take to alleviate menopause symptoms) I always take the birth control in the morning and wait 6-8 hrs before the St. John’s Wort.


  84. NoThreat2U
    84 | May 1, 2012 7:11 pm

    @ Lily:
    I DO love me some Teddy!!!!!!


  85. Lily
    85 | May 1, 2012 7:13 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    :)


  86. NoThreat2U
    86 | May 1, 2012 7:13 pm

    I am eating a slice of pizza. Pray for me. lol


  87. Lily
    87 | May 1, 2012 7:14 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Will do!


  88. coldwarrior
    88 | May 1, 2012 7:15 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Exactly, that’s why I made her go to a Psychiatrist when it wasn’t working.

    ya need lithium, atypical anti-psychotics, and mood stabilizers for bi-polar…a little herbal plant extract aint gonna help that!


  89. NoThreat2U
    90 | May 1, 2012 7:16 pm

    @ Lily:
    LOL I was so hungry and it looked so good. Hopefully I wont pay for it later. lol lol Oh well, it was worth it!


  90. Mars
    91 | May 1, 2012 7:17 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yep, and she took her meds for about 6 months. Then it was all downhill from there.


  91. coldwarrior
    92 | May 1, 2012 7:19 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yep, and she took her meds for about 6 months. Then it was all downhill from there.

    bi-polar is a tough one to manage. its terrible.


  92. NoThreat2U
    93 | May 1, 2012 7:21 pm

    @ Mars:
    Keeping a mentally ill person on their meds is the biggest problem. Once they start feeling better…they stop. I know this from experience.


  93. Lily
    94 | May 1, 2012 7:22 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    What I normally do is scrap off the toppings a little and then eat it.
    So far with method hasn’t messed with my gall bladder. ;)


  94. Mars
    95 | May 1, 2012 7:22 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yeah, I noticed she has now bought a car for herself instead of still sharing with her girlfriend, so it looks like she’s planning on running again.


  95. eaglesoars
    96 | May 1, 2012 7:22 pm

    Mars wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Yep, and she took her meds for about 6 months. Then it was all downhill from there.

    Most of the complaints I’m aware of from bi-polar patients is that the meds just flat-line them emotionally. Yeah, the lows are gone but so are those manic highs, which they can find very inspiring. Sounds to me like a combo of LSD and meth.


  96. Lily
    97 | May 1, 2012 7:23 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Yep they tend to miss their ‘highs’.


  97. eaglesoars
    98 | May 1, 2012 7:26 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Yep they tend to miss their ‘highs’.

    Don’t we all!

    :twisted:


  98. NoThreat2U
    99 | May 1, 2012 7:27 pm

    @ Lily:
    I can handle the toppings, it is all the carbs in food that seem to kick my butt. I am still trying to figure out what I can and cannot eat, but I try to listen to my body.


  99. coldwarrior
    100 | May 1, 2012 7:27 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Lily:
    I can handle the toppings, it is all the carbs in food that seem to kick my butt. I am still trying to figure out what I can and cannot eat, but I try to listen to my body.

    yinz cant eat buzzy’s pizza! that is for sure!


  100. Lily
    101 | May 1, 2012 7:30 pm

    So much for transparency…..

    How The White House Smothered The News Of Obama’s Trip To Afghanistan

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/how-the-white-house-smothered-the-news-of-obamas


  101. eaglesoars
    102 | May 1, 2012 7:31 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    it is all the carbs in food that seem to kick my butt.

    don’t know if that’s a blood sugar thing, but try this -- have a little protein with it.

    Have you checked out gluten intolerance?


  102. Lily
    103 | May 1, 2012 7:31 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Yep they tend to miss their ‘highs’.

    Don’t we all!

    :lol: Yep!!!!!


  103. eaglesoars
    104 | May 1, 2012 7:33 pm

    @ Lily:

    So much for transparency…..

    I think they get a pass on that simply for security reasons.


  104. Lily
    105 | May 1, 2012 7:34 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Probably so. But the rest of his agenda doesn’t apply, he sure does keep a lot of things scrubbed. ;)


  105. brookly red
    106 | May 1, 2012 7:36 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    I am eating a slice of pizza. Pray for me. lol

    Done!


  106. NoThreat2U
    107 | May 1, 2012 7:38 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Dude…Buzzi is from NB. If you go to Foodland and buy their homemade pizza, it IS Buzzis!!! Seriously. I turned my friend onto it and she went and bought a ton of them. I think they got their recipe from Buzzi! lol


  107. citizen_q
    108 | May 1, 2012 7:39 pm

    oh happy day! obammy says the taly-bhan want reconiliation.

    Peace in our time!
    Peace in out time!


  108. NoThreat2U
    109 | May 1, 2012 7:39 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    I have wondered about a gluten intolerance, on top of the other problems I have. Protein I aint to sure about. I tried things like Ensure and thought maybe the high protein is what bloated me. I will ask the doctor what he thinks.


  109. NoThreat2U
    110 | May 1, 2012 7:40 pm

    @ brookly red:
    Thank you Pizza Man. I find myself craving pizza everytime I see your avatar. lol


  110. coldwarrior
    111 | May 1, 2012 7:41 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Dude…Buzzi is from NB. If you go to Foodland and buy their homemade pizza, it IS Buzzis!!! Seriously. I turned my friend onto it and she went and bought a ton of them. I think they got their recipe from Buzzi! lol

    napoli’s or lazaro’s over here.


  111. brookly red
    112 | May 1, 2012 7:42 pm

    Kinda interesting… O is sorta kinda declaring and “end to hostilities” in Afghanistan. OK sooo if hostilities are over we need to release “enemy combatants” … like the ones held in Quantonimo… I think I see where this is going.


  112. Lily
    113 | May 1, 2012 7:43 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    oh happy day! obammy says the taly-bhan want reconiliation.

    Peace in our time!
    Peace in out time!

    Peace in our time? I do believe I’ve heard that somewhere before…
    *tapping fingers*…..oh yeah right before WWII.


  113. 114 | May 1, 2012 7:44 pm

    It was a campaign speech. he’s also lying about the end of the war. The agreement is till 2022, that means we will be propping up the Narco regime for 10 years.


  114. brookly red
    115 | May 1, 2012 7:44 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    Thank you Pizza Man. I find myself craving pizza everytime I see your avatar. lol

    try spinach as a topping… it is wonderful, nutritious and generally well tolerated ;)


  115. eaglesoars
    116 | May 1, 2012 7:44 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    I will ask the doctor what he thinks.

    Before you ask your doc, be informed yourself. Here is a good piece on gluten intolerance and wheat allergy (not the same)

    some symptoms

    •Abdominal Distention
    •Abdominal Pain and Cramping
    •Alternating Bouts of Diarrhea and Constipation
    •Anemia
    •Arthritis
    •Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD)
    •Bloating (see Gluten Intolerance Bloating)
    •Bone Density Loss
    •Borborygmi (stomach rumbling)
    •Constipation (see Celiac Disease Constipation)
    •Stunted Growth and Failure to Thrive
    •Depression, Anxiety and Irritability (see Celiac Depression)
    •Dermatitis Herpetiformis (skin rash — see my Dermatitis Herpetiformis article)
    •Diabetes
    •Diarrhea
    •Fatigue
    •Low Ferritin Symptoms
    •Malodorous Flatulence
    •Malodorous Stools
    •Gluten Ataxia (see my Gluten Ataxia article)
    •Grayish Stools
    •Hair Loss (Alopecia)
    •Headaches and Migraines
    •Hypoglycemia
    •Infertility (see Gluten Intolerance and Pregnancy)
    •Joint pain
    •Juvenile Idiopathic Arthritis
    •Lactose intolerance
    •Mouth sores or mouth ulcers
    •Nausea
    •Numbness or tingling in the patient’s hands and feet
    •Osteoporosis
    •Peripheral Neuropathy (including either a tingling or sensation of swelling your toes and fingers)
    •Sjogren’s Disease
    •Steatorrhea (high lipids in the stool, which may cause the stool to float)
    •Teeth and Gum Problems
    •Turner Syndrome
    •Vitamin and Mineral deficiencies
    •Vomiting
    •Unexplained Weight loss
    •Urticaria


  116. coldwarrior
    117 | May 1, 2012 7:44 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    It was a campaign speech. he’s also lying about the end of the war. The agreement is till 2022, that means we will be propping up the Narco regime for 10 years.

    pedophilic-narco regime.


  117. Brick
    118 | May 1, 2012 7:45 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Kinda interesting… O is sorta kinda declaring and “end to hostilities” in Afghanistan. OK sooo if hostilities are over we need to release “enemy combatants” … like the ones held in Quantonimo… I think I see where this is going.

    Since the war on terror is a done deal…how soon til the DHS and TSA are disbanded?


  118. Lily
    119 | May 1, 2012 7:45 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Not to mention the Taliban never, ever lies either *cough*.


  119. coldwarrior
    120 | May 1, 2012 7:46 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Borborygmi

    my favorite.


  120. citizen_q
    121 | May 1, 2012 7:46 pm

    @ Lily:
    A little sarcasm from me towards the appeaser in cheif.


  121. Lily
    122 | May 1, 2012 7:47 pm

    Evening all… hope everyone has a good one! :)


  122. eaglesoars
    123 | May 1, 2012 7:47 pm

    I gather none of us is watching O’s speech -- which began at 7:30 eastern.


  123. coldwarrior
    124 | May 1, 2012 7:47 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    that is quite a list.


  124. 125 | May 1, 2012 7:47 pm

    @ Lily:

    They can have Afghanistan for all I care. I don’t want anymore money going into that rat hole.


  125. Lily
    126 | May 1, 2012 7:47 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    I kinda figured that. But didn’t he just say it in a different way?


  126. eaglesoars
    127 | May 1, 2012 7:48 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    Borborygmi
    my favorite.

    I don’t know what HALF the stuff in that list means -- and I don’t wanna


  127. 128 | May 1, 2012 7:48 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    I did. It was a campaign speech. He took shots at Bush and then talked about building America together.


  128. 129 | May 1, 2012 7:49 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Yup, can’t offend out Muslim overlords.


  129. Lily
    130 | May 1, 2012 7:49 pm

    @ Rodan:

    With with way bho is handling it…yeah let it go.


  130. 131 | May 1, 2012 7:50 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    @ coldwarrior:
    @ Lily:

    Obama also claimed we have the Taliban on the run!

    :lol:

    What BS!


  131. brookly red
    132 | May 1, 2012 7:50 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    It was a campaign speech. he’s also lying about the end of the war. The agreement is till 2022, that means we will be propping up the Narco regime for 10 years.

    you know it kinda makes sense… look Delta (it think) needs fuel so they bought a refinery. pretty smart, no? O’s supporters need dope, so they buy a refinery? I don’t like it but the business model does make sense.


  132. 133 | May 1, 2012 7:50 pm

    @ Lily:

    See my 131. It was the biggest whopper. he claims we stopped the Taliban!

    :lol:

    OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  133. 134 | May 1, 2012 7:51 pm

    @ brookly red:

    OWS need their heroin!


  134. Lily
    135 | May 1, 2012 7:51 pm

    @ Rodan:

    He lies. All. Of. The. Time.

    With that I’m out….hope everyone has a good one! :)


  135. eaglesoars
    136 | May 1, 2012 7:52 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    I did

    glutton for punishment, you are……….

    I just want to get the shotgun -- but seriously, why waste the ammo?

    As some of you may know, Tues nite is my NCIS nite, so I’m off to rustle up some grub and settle in for some ‘good guys kick ass’ p0rn.


  136. brookly red
    137 | May 1, 2012 7:52 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Obama also claimed we have the Taliban on teh run!

    What BS!

    they are on the run… they run Detroit, Newark, parts of Philly… you get my drift.


  137. 138 | May 1, 2012 7:52 pm

    @ Lily:

    Take care!


  138. NoThreat2U
    139 | May 1, 2012 7:53 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Oh, and Vocelli’s too! Yum! You and Mamma need to go to Pacentro’s restaraunt sometime. Great Italian food.


  139. 140 | May 1, 2012 7:53 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Yup!


  140. brookly red
    141 | May 1, 2012 7:56 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    OWS need their heroin!

    I saw their march down 5th Ave today… the cops made them stay on the side walk and not block traffic. There appeared to be 5 or 6 thousand of them which sounds like a lot until you consider it is NYC and that is about enough to fill 3 F trains during rush hour.


  141. citizen_q
    142 | May 1, 2012 7:56 pm

    @ Lily:
    A little sarcasm from me towards the appeaser in cheif.@ Lily:
    Pretty much.


  142. brookly red
    143 | May 1, 2012 7:57 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Obama also claimed we have the Taliban on the run!

    Running for congress he means…


  143. coldwarrior
    144 | May 1, 2012 7:58 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Oh, and Vocelli’s too! Yum! You and Mamma need to go to Pacentro’s restaraunt sometime. Great Italian food.

    its a good italian place, we have been there a few times


  144. NoThreat2U
    145 | May 1, 2012 7:58 pm

    @ brookly red:
    I DO like spinach. It is good on pizza too! The spinach is also good for me because I have a vitamin K deficiency. @ eaglesoars:
    I DO have some of those symptoms! I will save that list and bring it up at my next appointment!! Thank you so much!


  145. brookly red
    146 | May 1, 2012 8:01 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    I DO like spinach. It is good on pizza too! The spinach is also good for me because I have a vitamin K deficiency.

    dust with parmigiana cheese, garlic and black pepper, were talking a serious slice here.


  146. NoThreat2U
    147 | May 1, 2012 8:03 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    I sit on the couch with Shannon sometimes and she is shocked when she hears the war going on in my tummy. I am so asking about these at the next appt.


  147. brookly red
    148 | May 1, 2012 8:06 pm

    Brick wrote:

    Since the war on terror is a done deal…how soon til the DHS and TSA are disbanded?

    sorry dude… unions are forever.


  148. coldwarrior
    149 | May 1, 2012 8:07 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    that list is a bit…well…general. so go with YOUR 4 or 5 biggest problems. that will narrow it down and help with diagnosis.


  149. NoThreat2U
    150 | May 1, 2012 8:09 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    A friend of mine took me there for my birthday. It was great food and great music in the background.

    @ brookly red:
    I remember waking up starving one night. I made a salad of spinach and pineapple chunks. God that was good. lol You should see how much spinach I put in wedding soup. I think I want to try my hand at a homemade gourmet pizza with spinach and pineapple.


  150. NoThreat2U
    151 | May 1, 2012 8:10 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Will do. I just want to cover all my bases before they want to cut my liver out. lol


  151. brookly red
    152 | May 1, 2012 8:15 pm

    but back to O and the Seals, I think he really stepped in shit here. His supporters HATE the military and everyone else respects them…

    His pretend hawkishness maybe one of the dumbest things he ever did.


  152. brookly red
    153 | May 1, 2012 8:18 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    A friend of mine took me there for my birthday. It was great food and great music in the background.

    @ brookly red:
    I remember waking up starving one night. I made a salad of spinach and pineapple chunks. God that was good. lol You should see how much spinach I put in wedding soup. I think I want to try my hand at a homemade gourmet pizza with spinach and pineapple.

    GASP! pineapple? per l’amore della donna Dio quello che stai pensando? si mette ananas sulla pizza e mi chiedo perché avete cattive condizioni di salute!


  153. brookly red
    154 | May 1, 2012 8:21 pm

    Rodan, aiutami ho bisogno di un time out prima di dire qualcosa di imperdonabile!


  154. NoThreat2U
    155 | May 1, 2012 8:31 pm

    @ brookly red:
    Did you just cuss me out in Dego-speak???? lol lol I know how you feel about pineapple on pizza, I was just trying to make a well rounded salad for myself though. lol


  155. Speranza
    156 | May 1, 2012 8:32 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    but back to O and the Seals, I think he really stepped in shit here. His supporters HATE the military and everyone else respects them…

    Exactamundo!


  156. brookly red
    157 | May 1, 2012 8:34 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    Did you just cuss me out in Dego-speak???? lol lol I know how you feel about pineapple on pizza, I was just trying to make a well rounded salad for myself though. lol

    no I said you put p***apple on pizza and wonder about bad health?


  157. brookly red
    158 | May 1, 2012 8:35 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    but back to O and the Seals, I think he really stepped in shit here. His supporters HATE the military and everyone else respects them…

    Exactamundo!

    swift boats…


  158. NoThreat2U
    159 | May 1, 2012 8:39 pm

    @ brookly red:
    I figure pineapple is healthy. And it still reads like you cussed me out…seeing as how I dont speak Italian. lol lol I bet your hands are flying around too. lol


  159. Speranza
    160 | May 1, 2012 8:42 pm

    I hate it when my foot falls asleep during the day because that means it’s going to be up all night.


  160. Speranza
    161 | May 1, 2012 8:43 pm

    Why the hell is “Cougar Town” back on the air?


  161. brookly red
    162 | May 1, 2012 8:43 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    I figure pineapple is healthy. And it still reads like you cussed me out…seeing as how I dont speak Italian. lol lol I bet your hands are flying around too. lol

    I am not Italian… I was possessed by a higher spirit.


  162. NoThreat2U
    163 | May 1, 2012 8:44 pm

    @ brookly red:
    LOL LOL LOL So are you saying that God is Italian??? lol


  163. brookly red
    164 | May 1, 2012 8:46 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    LOL LOL LOL So are you saying that God is Italian??? lol

    no, as they said Jesus was not born in Italy because they could not find 3 wise men or a virgin…

    rimshot!


  164. Speranza
    165 | May 1, 2012 8:51 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    no, as they said Jesus was not born in Italy because they could not find 3 wise men or a virgin…

    The old joke about Doris “The Eternal Virgin” Day -- I knew her before she was a virgin.


  165. NoThreat2U
    166 | May 1, 2012 8:55 pm

    @ brookly red:

    @ Speranza:
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Yinz are killing me!


  166. yenta-fada
    167 | May 1, 2012 9:16 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    LOL LOL LOL So are you saying that God is Italian??? lol

    That could work for me. I love most things Italian. Music, scenery, art, food. I could almost understand brookly!


  167. yenta-fada
    168 | May 1, 2012 9:19 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Oh look, a picture of Mooch, Stanley Ann Dunham, and maybe a half sister of Ozero, though I’m not sure.

    http://js-kit.com/blob/4EQFZNxf9c4NUUZLGTU_zU.jpg


  168. huckfunn
    169 | May 1, 2012 9:33 pm

    Geert Wilders interview with Hannity up next.


  169. Calo
    170 | May 1, 2012 9:49 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Why the hell is “Cougar Town” back on the air?

    Better than being held hostage and forced to watch The Voice with Cyndi Lauper prancing around the stage.

    *Optimistic* :smile:


  170. 171 | May 1, 2012 9:52 pm

    The History channel is currently showing a Mocumentary of the bin Laden raid. It is the longest political campaign ad I have ever seen.


  171. 172 | May 1, 2012 9:53 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    The History channel is currently showing a Mocumentary of the bin Laden raid. It is the longest political campaign ad I have ever seen.

    This isn’t spiking the football… It’s grandstanding in the end zone on steroids.


  172. Lily
    173 | May 1, 2012 10:25 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I couldn’t agree more.
    This is pathetic by a sitting president.


  173. Lily
    174 | May 1, 2012 10:28 pm

    Has everyone turned out the lights already??? ;)


  174. Lily
    175 | May 1, 2012 10:32 pm

    On surprise Afghanistan visit, Obama says goal of defeating Al Qaeda ‘within our reach’

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/01/obama-arrives-in-afghanistan/#ixzz1tfxLYK8f


  175. Lily
    176 | May 1, 2012 10:33 pm

    @ Lily:

    Yeah right. bho is trying to blow sunshine up our butts as Allen West would say.


  176. Calo
    177 | May 1, 2012 10:36 pm

    @ Lily:
    What happened? BHO couldn’t get a tee time and wound up in Afghanistan with his teleprompter instead?


  177. Lily
    178 | May 1, 2012 10:37 pm

    @ Calo:

    Apparently. Not to mention it is basically a campaign speech.


  178. Lily
    179 | May 1, 2012 10:39 pm

    Everyone left??


  179. Calo
    180 | May 1, 2012 10:39 pm

    Yet here, in the pre-dawn darkness of Afghanistan, we can see the light of a new day on the horizon,” Obama said

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/01/obama-arrives-in-afghanistan/#ixzz1tfypwfwC

    Ummh hummh -- yes, Dear Leader … the sun will rise despite your idiotic statements.


  180. eaglesoars
    181 | May 1, 2012 10:42 pm

    The Taliban just blew up a car bomb near the US embassy in Kabul.

    I thought O said they had been defeated.


  181. Lily
    182 | May 1, 2012 10:42 pm

    @ Calo:

    I noticed that he only had military equipment behind him and not soldiers. Because the last time he had soldiers behind them they didn’t really clap much for him or seem to happy with him.


  182. Alberta Oil Peon
    183 | May 1, 2012 10:44 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Late to the party, but, number of civilians in the house? Give me a break! Bin Laden himself was a civilian, and a terrorist. Anyone present in that house with him, even a babe in arms, was part of his support group. Shoot them all.

    Now I wouldn’t deliberately shoot infants, or tiny tots, but in that society, kids old enough to point and shoot a gun are hostiles.


  183. Lily
    184 | May 1, 2012 10:45 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    The Taliban just blew up a car bomb near the US embassy in Kabul.

    I thought O said they had been defeated.

    Uhmmmmmmmm, yeah that might be a problem for him after he said we basically have defeated them. Why am I not *shocked* by this.


  184. eaglesoars
    185 | May 1, 2012 10:52 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    Late to the party, but, number of civilians in the house? Give me a break

    Unless they are obviously armed the US military does not target women and children.

    Osama was not a civilian. He was a terrorist.


  185. Lily
    186 | May 1, 2012 10:53 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    The Taliban just blew up a car bomb near the US embassy in Kabul.

    I thought O said they had been defeated.

    I can’t find it. Plus didn’t he say the Taliban can be negotiated with? Oh wait they lie to infidels. Silly me.


  186. Lily
    187 | May 1, 2012 10:54 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    Late to the party, but, number of civilians in the house? Give me a break

    Unless they are obviously armed the US military does not target women and children.

    Osama was not a civilian. He was a terrorist.

    Yep. Babies don’t carry weapons.


  187. eaglesoars
    188 | May 1, 2012 10:56 pm

    Lily wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    The Taliban just blew up a car bomb near the US embassy in Kabul.
    I thought O said they had been defeated.
    I can’t find it. Plus didn’t he say the Taliban can be negotiated with? Oh wait they lie to infidels. Silly me.

    Not only that, but who the hell has been attacking our troops? zombies?


  188. Calo
    189 | May 1, 2012 10:57 pm

    He agreed to turn Afghanistan back to the Taliban in two years. And after he left the Taliban took responsibility for the suicide attack in Kabul tonight. Yep, this is going to turn out well.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/world-news/6846101/Suicide-car-bomb-in-Kabul-after-Obama-leaves


  189. Lily
    190 | May 1, 2012 10:58 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Found it, apparently 3 explosions…just hours after bho’s speech. They made a fool out of him.

    Explosions, shooting heard in Afghan capital

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/afghanistan/story/2012-05-01/afghanistan-explosion-shooting/54675086/1


  190. eaglesoars
    191 | May 1, 2012 10:59 pm

    Ok bedtime.

    sleep tight all


  191. Lily
    192 | May 1, 2012 11:00 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    The Taliban just blew up a car bomb near the US embassy in Kabul.
    I thought O said they had been defeated.
    I can’t find it. Plus didn’t he say the Taliban can be negotiated with? Oh wait they lie to infidels. Silly me.

    Not only that, but who the hell has been attacking our troops? zombies?

    Excatly and yet when one of them dies…he is so sorry, not sorry for our soldiers being killed! Disgusting.


  192. Lily
    193 | May 1, 2012 11:01 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Nite {eagle}! Sleep well!


  193. Lily
    194 | May 1, 2012 11:02 pm

    @ Calo:

    Excatly….they made him look like a jackass. I hope the papers (wishful thinking) go viral with this news.


  194. Calo
    195 | May 1, 2012 11:05 pm

    @ Lily:
    Lily, I’m going up ^^^^ and seeing what Bunk put up.


  195. Alberta Oil Peon
    196 | May 1, 2012 11:10 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    He was both. A civilian in the sense that he was not part of any country’s regular military. An unlawful combatant, in other words.


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