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The Madness of Islamic outreach

by Rodan ( 82 Comments › )
Filed under Al Qaeda, Democratic Party, Elections 2012, Islam, Islamic Supremacism, Islamists, Mitt Romney, Muslim Brotherhood, Republican Party at May 7th, 2012 - 8:00 am

When it comes to Islam both parties are indistinguishable. Both parties support the Muslim Brotherhood led Arab Spring, albeit for different reasons. Both the Pharaoh Obama and Mitt Romney are itching to intervene in Syria to assist the Muslim Brotherhood/Al-Qaeda in overthrowing the Assad regime and establishing a Sharia based state. Both parties are silent about the clashes between Islamic North Sudan and Christian South Sudan. Both parties support Islamic immigration to America. When it comes to our biggest overseas threat, both parties are Dhimmis to the Islamist agenda of the House of Saud and Muslim Brotherhood. The Democrats view the Islamists as fellow travelers in some global revolutionary struggle. Republicans are blinded by Wilsonian philosophy of Democracy at all costs. This attitude by the part of both parties has made the Islamist movement more powerful than before 9/11.  Not many speak out about it, but one man does.

Andrew McCarthy is a breath of fresh air on the Right. He calls it like he sees it and has no hesitation to call out the Republican Party and their naive foreign policy that enables the Muslim Brotherhood. He also points out the fallacy of Islamic outreach that both parties do. He rightfully points out that after 9/11 the Islamic influence in our politics is stronger than ever. People are no longer allowed to call out the true nature of the Islamic threat. When they do they are silenced and ostracized by both parties. As recently as the 90′s prominent public figures were allowed to criticize Islam. Now it is taboo and both parties enforce this code of Omerta.

A few years back, I wrote a book called “Willful Blindness: A Memoir of the Jihad.” It was about being on the “front lines,” so to speak, of the battle against Muslim terrorism. I put “front lines” in quotes because, though the terrorists saw themselves as fighting a doctrinally ordained war of armed combat, we were treating them as mere criminals — such that our idea of a battlefield was the federal courthouse, and our idea of a commander was, well . . . me.

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Still, things were better 20 years ago. If the book were to be written about today’s counterterrorism approach, I’d have to call it Compulsory Blindness: A Surrender to Violent Extremism.

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See, however wayward our approach in the Nineties may have been, it was still possible to tell the truth, to fashion an accurate depiction of the phenomenon.

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No one prevented me from pointing out to the jury that the Blind Sheikh (Omar Abdel Rahman), whose various physical maladies rendered him unable to carry out terrorist acts, was nevertheless empowered to command the terrorist organization, solely because of his mastery of Islamic jurisprudence.

I marched into the courtroom every day for nine months and proved that there was an undeniable nexus between Islamic doctrine and terrorism committed by Muslims. The Blind Sheikh, the jury was allowed to learn, was not a fringe lunatic; he was a globally renowned scholar of sharia whose influence over a spate of international jihadist organizations was based on his doctorate from al-Azhar University, the world’s most influential center of Islamic thought. And when I demonstrated the straight-line, undeniable logic of the evidence — that scripture informed the Blind Sheikh’s directives; that those directives informed his terrorist subordinates; and that those subordinates then committed atrocities — the government gave me the Justice Department’s highest award.

Today, I’d be ostracized. No longer is the government content to be willfully blind. Today, it is defiantly, coercively, extortionately blind.

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“Islamic outreach” started out in the post-9/11 Bush years as a well-intentioned but wrongheaded way to connect with Muslim communities: convince them to share information about jihadist elements while persuading them that America’s quarrel was with terrorists, not Islam per se. It was a wayward idea, but not fatally so. After all, outreach was just a sideline — something the FBI, the intelligence community, and the military did in addition to, and in the service of, their more conventional methods of gathering information and evidence in order to thwart a threat.

This is how great nations die. When the elites of a country refuse to admit who the enemy is and silences patriots like Andrew McCarthy who speak the truth. I wish the American people would wake up and see the con job both parties are doing in regards to the Islamic threat. I fear it will take the loss of a city for Americans to realize they are being used and lied to by the Democratic and Republican Parties.

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  1. RIX
    1 | May 7, 2012 8:12 am

    Islam has a big element of Nihilism.
    After 9/11 they ttempted to turn the nrrative
    on it’s head, claiming victimhood & demanding
    preferences.
    They chipped away at our will to even recognise
    the enemy.


  2. MikeA
    2 | May 7, 2012 8:21 am

    Who cares. Dancing with the Stars is on and Lindsey is back in rehab!!!

    For most of the population, they just don’t care or think that muzzies think this way. They think its just a few bad apples and you know, doesn’t every religion have those…

    Had a conversation with a neighbor this weekend… Had a hard time not shaking her and telling her to wake up… ;)


  3. 3 | May 7, 2012 8:40 am

    Actual, honest-to-God communists are slowly taking over my nation, so pardon me if this isn’t at the top of my priority list…


  4. 4 | May 7, 2012 8:45 am

    He rightfully points out that after 9/11 the Islamic influence in our politics is stronger than ever.

    Terrorism works. We should have responded to 9-11 with overwhelming force to terrorise our enemies. We did not, and instead have tried to appease them through PC bullshit. This will only encourage more terrorism.


  5. citizen_q
    5 | May 7, 2012 8:48 am

    From my understanding islam and therefore its followers are irredeamable.

    It’s scriptures are fixed and deemed to be the word of G-d. Any deviation or disavowal of any part is apostasy, which is punishable by death. It’s supreamacist and expansionist. Lying to advance islam is not only condoned, but encouraged. It is schizophrenic in nature with more seeming peaceful earlier aspects abroagated with more violent expansionist aspects later, giving muslims the ability to tell a more convincing lie about islam and its goals. In fact anything that can be contrued as advancing islam is ok, including seeming to abandon islam, or engaging in non-islamic acts such as going to strip clubs as the 9/11 perpetrators did to help hide who they were and what they were up to.

    There is violence everywhere muslims reside is any significance. Amongst themselves due to their inherent intolerance even among those whose practice is different, ex. shia and sunni, or among non-muslims.

    They emmigrate not to be members of the countries they go to, but with the idea of spereading islam. Evidence is legion. Look to Europe, or here in Dearborn. They don’t assimilate, but create ghettos that mirror where they come from, and soon develop those areas into non-muslim no-go areas.

    The only outreach we should be doing with respect to islam is with a weapon. No accomadations to them should be made. They use the laws and tolarance of their hosts against them. Efforts to encourage repatriation, and the emigration for converts should be made.


  6. 6 | May 7, 2012 9:03 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    The only outreach we should be doing with respect to islam is with a weapon. No accomadations to them should be made.

    Absolutely, 100%. Islam is the enemy in a global war. But our fellow-citizens don’t get that. The reason Bush went with the whole “Islam is Peace” line of bullshit is because that was what the majority of Americans wanted to hear. They didn’t want to hear “World War IV” talk, let alone talk about releasing the true horror that American arms are capable of inflicting on our enemy. The result is that while we havewon some signal tactical battles, we are over-all losing the war. Islam is in better shape in the United States vis-a-vis the rest of the country than it was prior to 9-11. This societal appeasement is the most distressing thing to come out of 9-11. We should be taking the fight to the enemy, not permitting him to colonize America.


  7. MikeA
    7 | May 7, 2012 9:05 am

    @ Mike C.:

    FORWARD!!!!


  8. 8 | May 7, 2012 9:11 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Islam is in better shape in the United States vis-a-vis the rest of the country than it was prior to 9-11.

    Yup and Andrew McCarthy has made that same observation.


  9. 9 | May 7, 2012 9:13 am

    @ Mike C.:

    I sdon’t see that it is an either-or situation. Realistically, Romney can only take a moderate line to Islam. It would turn off too many voters if he takes a hard line. But what he can do is stop with the nonsense of helping al Qaeda in Syria take over. There are no “good guys” in Syria to help, any more than there were “good guys” in Libya. Obama sent in American military forces (without Congressional Authorization) to help al Qaeda in Libya. Romney can at least refuse to do that. As far as clearing the Communists out of office, vote! That is all we can do. Vote, work for the candidates, fight this political war as though your life depended on it.


  10. 10 | May 7, 2012 9:15 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    Actual, honest-to-God communists are slowly taking over my nation, so pardon me if this isn’t at the top of my priority list…

    The Marxist Democrats and Corrupt Republicans are both the problem. They have enabled the Islamists.


  11. citizen_q
    11 | May 7, 2012 9:15 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    I suspect that one of the major reasons we have not seen large scale attacks is due to the success of jihad by other methods. That coupled with the popular reaction to a successful major attack would be something our quisling leaders might be able to mitigate but not stop.


  12. citizen_q
    12 | May 7, 2012 9:17 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Obama sent in American military forces (without Congressional Authorization) to help al Qaeda in Libya.

    And did he not thumb his nose by ignoring the War Powers Act?


  13. 13 | May 7, 2012 9:18 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Realistically, Romney can only take a moderate line to Islam. It would turn off too many voters if he takes a hard line. But what he can do is stop with the nonsense of helping al Qaeda in Syria take over.

    I think Romney has been bought off by the House of Saud. If Romney wins and he goes to war in Syria, its time for Patriotic Conservatives to form a new Party and leave the GOP. I refuse to support Islamic agenda.


  14. 14 | May 7, 2012 9:21 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    I suspect that one of the major reasons we have not seen large scale attacks is due to the success of jihad by other methods. That coupled with the popular reaction to a successful major attack would be something our quisling leaders might be able to mitigate but not stop.

    Totally 100% agree!


  15. 15 | May 7, 2012 9:22 am

    @ citizen_q:

    Yeah, he did. And Congress was afraid to do anything against the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT. Obama gets away with near-dictatorial powers. He is beyond an “Imperial Presidency”. I truly fear for the country if he is re-elected. This has made me a reluctant Romney cheer-leader. HE is what we are going to put forward to end this nightmare. I don’;t have to love hiom, but I do have a civic responsibility to support him. After he is (pray God!) elected, I will have a civic responsibility to do what I can to pressure him into being a good, successful President. We have to look to the good of the country, not merely personal preferrence in this election. This will be the most pivotal election since the election of 1860. We have to do our part to win it for the good of the country.


  16. 16 | May 7, 2012 9:26 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Obama is treated as a god-king Pharaoh.


  17. citizen_q
    17 | May 7, 2012 9:28 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    We are on the same page.


  18. 18 | May 7, 2012 9:28 am

    @ Rodan:

    I don’t support War in Syria for a number of reasons. The thing to do is if Romney wins, pressure him through the (hopefully conservative) Legislature to stay out of Syria. I think this can be done. The Republican party is really split on its support of Islam. There are people who take a harder line in Congress, though they don’t get the kind of Press a John McCain or Lindsey Graham get. We need to support them and strengthen them. The war on Islam is a side-show in American politics today, like it or not. I personally think that, like our mercy to Afghanistan, will come back to haunt us, but I can’tchange the mood of the electorate. We go to war with the Electorate that we have, not the electorate that we wished we have. We have to fight the battles we can win. That means choosing the ground we are going to defend carefully. I think “NO War for al Qaeda in Syria” is ground we can defend if it is done right.


  19. 19 | May 7, 2012 9:36 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    The majority of Americans oppose intervention in Syria. If Romney pushes this against the popular will, he will be a one term President and the GOP will permanently split. I still think Patriotic Conservatives/Libertarians should start a new Party should this occur. I think the GOP is too corrupt and evil to save.

    But Obama first, then we deal with Romney later.

    Check out the swing state poll.


  20. 20 | May 7, 2012 9:39 am

    OT of note: Tomorrow is the Scott Walker recall election. I know everyone here is pulling for Walker. I think this will be a good prologue for the November elections. Walker faces stiff competition from the Unions, who have gone all-out to defeat him here. If he retains his governorship, in a traditionally blue State like Wisconsin, then it portends dire things for the Obama Machine come fall. I’ll be on pins and needles all day tomorrow. This is a vital test of the Conservative Message. Walker’s reforms have worked. Whether the voters will embrace that fact is the question that will be answered tomorrow.


  21. 21 | May 7, 2012 9:42 am

    @ Rodan:

    That is within the margin of error. That is really where I expect this election to be fought. It will be very close. Fraud will be rampant, especially in the States where DOJ is trying to quash voter ID laws. Hopefully, the Supreme COurt will decide in our favor there. There is a lot of decisions coming down the pike next month from the Supreme COurt, and I am cautiously optomistic about them turning our way.


  22. 22 | May 7, 2012 9:42 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Did you see how many seats where empty in the Pharaoh’s Ohio rally?


  23. yenta-fada
    23 | May 7, 2012 9:45 am

    Sultan Knish, in his most recent essay:

    “It’s much easier to drop bombs on some tribesmen in Yemen or Afghanistan than paying a call to the Saudi King, It’s much easier to send soldiers out to win hearts and minds in some hopeless part of the world, than to bring the war home to glittering cities closely interlinked with Western business interests like Riyadh, Doha and Dubai. It’s easy to put down a lunatic like Gaddafi or an old fashioned Arabist tyrant like Saddam or Assad, but who would contemplate doing the same thing to the House of Saud or the Al-Thanis?

    We can cut off the head of the snake or we can shake a stick at it, or learning to wear heavy boots. So far we’ve shaken our sticks loudly and impotently and we wear heavy boots and take them off at the airport. That’s the game we’re playing and it’s a loser’s game.”


  24. 24 | May 7, 2012 9:46 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I am still stunned at the hold Obama has on people. Romney is Liberals POS, but he’s not a Marxist. This election for me is like allying with Stalin to defeat Hitler. Obama is evil and must be removed.


  25. 25 | May 7, 2012 9:47 am

    @ yenta-fada:

    That is absolutely true.


  26. huckfunn
    26 | May 7, 2012 9:48 am


  27. 27 | May 7, 2012 9:49 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Or they could go France…


  28. 28 | May 7, 2012 9:50 am

    @ Mike C.:

    RE your # 20, that is.


  29. 29 | May 7, 2012 9:53 am

    @ Rodan:

    Yeah, that bodes well! This time four years ago it was standing room only at Obama rallys, and women were fainting at the joy of his words! Remember that bullshit? That at least thankfully has passed. Yeah, Obama is a god to the LEft, but the Left are only about 20% of the electorate. I do worry abou tthe people who will vote for Obama because they are afraid they will be called RAAAAACIST if they vote against him. That is still a powerful weapon in his arsenal, but it is mitigated more than a little by the fact that voting is secret. People may tell a pollster they lean Obama because they don’t want the pollster to think they are racist, but when they are alone in the voting booth, they have to ask themselves if the Country is better off now than it was four years ago? If the election comes down to that question, Romney should win.


  30. 30 | May 7, 2012 9:54 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Whats funny is, people camped out waiting for him. But its less than 4 years ago.


  31. 31 | May 7, 2012 9:57 am

    @ Mike C.:

    I’d love to see the Left migrate to France. It would improve our voting pool considerably. They could even renounce their citizenship, so they wouldn’t have to be associated with that awful Right-wing United States anymore. Let them vote with their feet…


  32. 32 | May 7, 2012 10:01 am

    @ Rodan:

    Cults of personality are fairly short lived in places where there isn’t incessant, unopposed propoganda for the cult. Obama gets a lot of pimping by the MFM and the Democrats, but it isn’t unopposed by any stretch of the imagination. At a time when the unemployment rate is only going down because people have given up, people are going to look at their own situation and that of the people around them and make their judgements based on that, not on what some god-struck idiot on CNN or MSNBC says. That is why I am cautiously optomistic about the fall election. We can win, but it will be a hard-fought victory. Anyone who thinks Romney will win just because he shows up is delusional.


  33. 33 | May 7, 2012 10:08 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    I’d love to see the Left migrate to France. It would improve our voting pool considerably. They could even renounce their citizenship, so they wouldn’t have to be associated with that awful Right-wing United States anymore. Let them vote with their feet…

    Well, there’s sure as hell no place for the Right to run to -- we’re going to have to die in place, if necessary.

    Buy more ammo….


  34. citizen_q
    34 | May 7, 2012 10:14 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    Buy more ammo….

    I remember the shortages and and soaring prices going into the last election.


  35. 35 | May 7, 2012 10:22 am

    @ Mike C.:

    You are right there. There is no place to run to if we lose here. America is still the last, best hope of the world.


  36. 36 | May 7, 2012 10:27 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I have a place to flee, but most Rightwing Americans don’t. I speak Spanish, so I have a few options like Colombia or Chile for example.


  37. citizen_q
    37 | May 7, 2012 10:28 am

    This id rich.

    Carter Security Adviser Gives Obama High Marks on Foreign Policy

    Zbigniew Brzezinski, former National Security Adviser to President Jimmy Carter, graded Obama’s foreign policy performance “somewhere between B-plus and A-minus,” lauding his achievements with Chinese and Russian relations but criticizing his failure to move forward on the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.

    “It would be higher if he had moved more decisively on the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, because he had a chance to do so. But admittedly, he was overwhelmed by domestic problems,” he said on CBS’s Face the Nation.


  38. MikeA
    38 | May 7, 2012 10:30 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    Mike C. wrote:
    Buy more ammo….
    I remember the shortages and and soaring prices going into the last election.

    If you check most of the websites, all lot of the ammo is going up and most of the mil-surp is gone. 7.62X51 is real heard to find and I noticed in the latest flyers that 5.56 has gone from about $320 / 1K to about $400. This in the last month or so.


  39. yenta-fada
    39 | May 7, 2012 10:33 am

    @ citizen_q:

    ZB is a shape shifting reptile from another galaxy who is plotting the end of the human race. That is all./

    What, hyperbole?


  40. RIX
    40 | May 7, 2012 10:37 am

    If you watched SNL this week, you saw that the opener
    was a mocking parody of Fox and Friends.
    The problem with it is that it was not funny & very
    amatuerish.
    Bret Baier was on the WLS Don & Roma morning program.
    Co-host Roma said that they had originally planned to
    mock Obamas Osama bragging & having him claim that he
    personally killed him, but that it was pulled at the
    last minute.
    I wish that she would have elaborated.


  41. citizen_q
    41 | May 7, 2012 10:38 am

    @ yenta-fada:
    He is a repellant cretin, whose only use is as an example of failure. Praise from him should be like sunshine to a vampire.


  42. 42 | May 7, 2012 10:41 am

    @ RIX:

    I read that. SNL didn’t want to offend the god-king.


  43. citizen_q
    44 | May 7, 2012 10:49 am

    @ RIX:
    No bias there, move along, your betters will tell you what to think. /


  44. yenta-fada
    45 | May 7, 2012 10:53 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    He is a repellant cretin, whose only use is as an example of failure. Praise from him should be like sunshine to a vampire.

    http://www.amazon.ca/Without-Conscience-Disturbing-World-Psychopaths/dp/1572304510/ref=pd_sim_b_1


  45. 46 | May 7, 2012 10:56 am

    @ citizen_q:

    Its always good top have Gold or silver as backup. Warren Buffet is senile.


  46. 47 | May 7, 2012 10:59 am

    @ Rodan:

    Yeah, I don’t even have many states in the US I’d consider fleeing to. Does anybody kno wanything about Virginia? I just got contacted by a recruiter from Roanoke. I am open to moving for the right job offer. Should I consider it? If I were going to move to Virginia, would Roanoke be a good city to move to?


  47. yenta-fada
    48 | May 7, 2012 10:59 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Did you see this comment from charles munger?

    “Gold is a great thing to sew into your garments if you’re a Jewish family in Vienna in 1939,” the Berkshire vice chairman said, “but I think civilized people don’t buy gold, they invest in productive businesses.”

    You bet I saw that several times. Even the goldbugs, who are not disposed to admire the Joooos called Munger out on that one. There are so many subtexts to that statement! Berkshire Hathaway didn’t make as much money in the past decade as a passive investment in precious metals did. Those ghouls are talking their book and want people in the stock market.


  48. yenta-fada
    49 | May 7, 2012 11:01 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    Yeah, I don’t even have many states in the US I’d consider fleeing to. Does anybody kno wanything about Virginia? I just got contacted by a recruiter from Roanoke. I am open to moving for the right job offer. Should I consider it? If I were going to move to Virginia, would Roanoke be a good city to move to?

    Ask eaglesoars. She likely knows about the area.


  49. RIX
    50 | May 7, 2012 11:02 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:
    I read that. SNL didn’t want to offend the god-king.

    That’s very dangerous in a free country.
    Was it a call from the White House?


  50. RIX
    51 | May 7, 2012 11:03 am

    @ citizen_q:
    If the White House can bully comedy shows, we are
    in some serious shit.


  51. m
    52 | May 7, 2012 11:10 am

    I don’t put any stock in polls but this does look better than we’ve seen them lately.


  52. 53 | May 7, 2012 11:31 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Ask Eagle Soars when she pops up. She’s from VA and can answer better than me!


  53. 54 | May 7, 2012 11:32 am

    @ RIX:

    It probably was a call.


  54. 55 | May 7, 2012 11:35 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    Its always good top have Gold or silver as backup. Warren Buffet is senile.

    TSHTF and gold and silver are worthless. I wouldn’t trade you a single .22 LR round for an ounce of gold.


  55. citizen_q
    56 | May 7, 2012 11:40 am

    @ yenta-fada:
    I figured you had, :-)

    RIX wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    If the White House can bully comedy shows, we are
    in some serious shit.

    Actually, it may be worse.

    They may be self-censoring and biasing their satire to discredit opponents of the obama administration voluntarily. They are on the same team, which is worse than being bullied into submission.


  56. taxfreekiller
    57 | May 7, 2012 11:40 am

    FYI

    The unit was down along the Rio Grande Friday night Sat. Sat nite walked out Sunday after dawn.

    Ho Che Mien Trails without trees.

    1. Mexican Army comes accross and exits often now.
    2. D.E.A. Special Operators
    3. Border Patrol Special Operators (Brian Terry types)
    4. Texas Ranger Special Operators.
    5. Texas DPS
    6. County Sherriffs people
    7. Local City Cops
    8. Drones flying

    That is some of our side.

    Other Side

    1. The illegals of all sorts.
    2. The Coyotes/Drug mules train workers. (Trail Guides/enforcers)
    3. Sinola cartel rip off crews.
    4. Zeta cartel rip off crews.
    5. Zeta big time border jumper crews who run high priority “middle eastern border jumpers” with stuff attached.
    6. What seems to be crews from Venzolala land due to the stampings on the heels of their boots shows them to be from Venzolala land Army.
    7. unknow operators who rome around trying to rip off the cash going back south to south american.
    8. Mexican Navy Seal Teams types who are real good at tracking, cause they were tracking the same bunch we were tracking, and they got wind of us and sent us a message to allow them to pass us and take action, which we sure as hell did.

    It is a freaking mess and our team is getting to f’n old for this shit.


  57. RIX
    58 | May 7, 2012 11:43 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:
    It probably was a call.

    That would be my guess.


  58. citizen_q
    59 | May 7, 2012 11:44 am

    @ yenta-fada:
    Looks like an interesting book.


  59. 60 | May 7, 2012 11:45 am

    @ Mike C.:

    I agree. If things really come apart, ammunition is the most valuable thing you can have outside of the gun to fire it. That and a warrior mindset, which our schools train out of most people. In a way that is good. It leaves those of us who do possess such traits in a stronger position vis-a-vis our potential opposition…


  60. 61 | May 7, 2012 11:46 am

    @ Mike C.:

    When you run out of bullets, what commodity will you use to buy more? You always need a currency and gold and silver can be used to purchase necessities and ammo.


  61. 62 | May 7, 2012 11:46 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    You still need something tangible for purposes. SO a combo of ammo and gold/silver is the answer.


  62. 63 | May 7, 2012 11:47 am

    @ taxfreekiller:

    It is a freaking mess and our team is getting to f’n old for this shit.

    Just put the military on the border and problem solved. Between our military and the Mexican military, these criminals are screwed.


  63. 64 | May 7, 2012 11:48 am

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Actually just put Charles Johnson on the border. He will scare off the drug runners!

    :lol:


  64. RIX
    65 | May 7, 2012 11:50 am

    @ citizen_q:

    Actually, it may be worse.

    They may be self-censoring and biasing their satire to discredit opponents of the obama administration voluntarily. They are on the same team, which is worse than being bullied into submission

    It’s very unhealthy in a democracy for any reason.
    The Daily Caller says that it was a late scratch, which
    suggests to me that they got a phone call.
    If I was looking for a rat snitch, I would guess
    Seth Myers.


  65. 66 | May 7, 2012 11:51 am

    @ m:

    I don’t put much faith in polls, especially this far out. Yeah, Romney is starting in a very favorable position. Better than Reagan vis Carter at this stage. But never underestimate the ability o fthe Establishment Republicans to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Can Romney perform in the cleanch? Does he get, I mean really get, what I mean when I say Politics is War? If he does, he will defeat Obama in the fall. If he does not, things will be much more dicy. And never forget that the Democrats have fraud on their side. That is why they oppose coommon-sense voter ID laws. I hope that the Romney campaign spends some quality time informing the voters of that in the States where the highly-politicized DoJ is opposing such laws. And I hope Romney is prepared to fight the fight if Obama tries to steal the election this time around.


  66. 67 | May 7, 2012 11:51 am

    @ RIX:

    Obama is a god-king to these people.


  67. 68 | May 7, 2012 11:52 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    When you run out of bullets, what commodity will you use to buy more? You always need a currency and gold and silver can be used to purchase necessities and ammo.

    I plan on using Beer and Whiskey, and I bet I can buy a hell of a lot more bullets for a gallon of beer than you’ll be able to buy for an ounce of gold.


  68. 69 | May 7, 2012 11:52 am

    New Thread.


  69. RIX
    70 | May 7, 2012 11:53 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ taxfreekiller:
    Actually just put Charles Johnson on the border. He will scare off the drug runners

    !

    That would be a human rights abuse, “Get in Mah belly!”


  70. citizen_q
  71. 72 | May 7, 2012 11:54 am

    Welllll, the Obama Administration may be coming out of the closet on Gay MArriage. That is good news for us. While that may fire up the gay base, that is a really small number of people to motivate. It is worth noting that wherever it has faced the test of the voters, even in Liberal California, gay marriage has gone down in flames. I sincerely hope Obama is embracing this divisive and losing idea.


  72. 73 | May 7, 2012 11:54 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ Mike C.:
    When you run out of bullets, what commodity will you use to buy more? You always need a currency and gold and silver can be used to purchase necessities and ammo.

    I plan on using Beer and Whiskey, and I bet I can buy a hell of a lot more bullets for a gallon of beer than you’ll be able to buy for an ounce of gold.

    Oh and I might add, that the white lightning I make, can also double as fuel for your car or truck. Ya, it totally trumps gold or silver.


  73. 74 | May 7, 2012 11:55 am

    @ doriangrey:

    With Gold/Silver you can get more than just bullets. Every society has used gold/silver through out history.


  74. RIX
    75 | May 7, 2012 11:55 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Obama is a god-king to these people.

    Even now


  75. 76 | May 7, 2012 12:06 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    With Gold/Silver you can get more than just bullets. Every society has used gold/silver through out history.

    Ummm, sorry that is just plain wrong. Gold and silver as currency are a European/Middle Easter thing. It was never used as a currency in North or South America until the arrival of Europeans, nor was it used as a currency in Asia.


  76. 77 | May 7, 2012 12:08 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    With Gold/Silver you can get more than just bullets. Every society has used gold/silver through out history.

    Oh, and Alcohol has a far greater history of being a currency than Gold or silver. since unlike Gold or silver, EVERY human civilization in history has used Alcohol as a currency.


  77. 78 | May 7, 2012 12:14 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    China and India has been striking gold/silver coins for centuries. Plus the Americas were not developed. Hence societies that use gold/silver were more advanced.


  78. 79 | May 7, 2012 12:15 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    EVERY human civilization in history has used Alcohol as a currency.

    You must read a different history than me.


  79. 80 | May 7, 2012 12:34 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    China and India has been striking gold/silver coins for centuries. Plus the Americas were not developed. Hence societies that use gold/silver were more advanced.

    China and India only started striking gold and silver coins when they began trading with the Middle East and Europe. The British Empire arrived in Hong Kong and basically took it by military force because…. The Chinese had never set Gold or silver as a currency and the British made a KILLING literally by insisting on receiving
    gold and silver in exchange for trade goods.

    As for Alcohol, archeological evidence now makes it pretty clear that it was the production of alcohol not bread that led humans to cultivate grains. When Alexander the Great Conquered Egypt, Egypt’s single largest trade export commodity was… Beer.

    Do a little research Rodan, I am not bullshitting you, alcohol is the oldest and most universal currency on earth. It has been produced and used as a currency by every single civilization on earth right up to and including the early United States of America.

    Whiskey rebellion ring any bells? George Washington sent troops into Pennsylvania and made the domestic production of whiskey illegal because it was a currency that the fledgling US government could not regulate.


  80. 81 | May 7, 2012 12:41 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Oh, and why is it that alcohol was used as a currency? Besides the mid altering effects, it’s simple shelf life. Beer has 10 times the shelf life as bread and a greater nutritional value, whiskey, well it doesn’t have a shelf live, it doesn’t go bad. If you could find a 1000 year old bottle of whiskey it would still be just as drinkable as when it was bottled.


  81. 82 | May 7, 2012 12:55 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    When you run out of bullets, what commodity will you use to buy more? You always need a currency and gold and silver can be used to purchase necessities and ammo.

    If you’re low on food and ammo, how much of it would you trade for something that, outside of a civilization with some sort of market economy, is virtually worthless? Give me enough guns, ammo and people to use them, and should I desire to do so, I’ll simply take your gold and silver, although why I would want to bother is beyond me. If you want trade goods for when TSHTF, think canned tobacco and alcohol. But if you can’t defend your trade goods, you’re screwed.


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