Progressive Republican Senator Dick Lugar is in the fight of his life against Indiana State Treasuere Richard Mourdock. So desperate is Lugar, that he’s asking Democrats to vote for him!
This thread is to discuss the results of the Indiana Primary and the Wisconsin Democrat Primary where Big Labor’s Choice to run against Gov Walker has been falling behind in the polls, that’s right folks, CHAOS in the Democrat Party! The Dems in Wisconsin aren’t buying what Big Labor is selling.
Tags: Indiana Primary, Richard Lugar, Richard Mourdock, Rockefeller Republicans
Luggies be gone!
see ya later, dick.
Any results yet? I checked Fox & CNN and didn’t see anything on either site.
Never mind. Found ‘em.
Indiana election results
Mourdock up 60-40
mfhorn wrote:
BOOM!!!!
BWAHAHAHA!!!!
coldwarrior wrote:
*snort* I am sure you said that in just the right tone. lol
NoThreat2U wrote:
yinz know it!
AP predicts Lugar loses
@ coldwarrior:
I have been known to use that tone myself. lol
NoThreat2U wrote:
ROTFLMAO… I’ll bet you have…
@ doriangrey:
Damn right I have. lol lol
@ doriangrey:
howd it go with carter today?
coldwarrior wrote:
Not sure about going back to work, but we had a great talk for a couple of hours. He finally has all the regulatory permit stuff finished and is now just waiting for the official sign off. He said he would try to let me know something in the next couple of weeks if not sooner.
doriangrey wrote:
excellent!
i am getting new stix in the spring and will need a few shafts
(better start saving my
penniesquarters now)oot will be up at 2200est tonight
it’s quite a caper!
Back on topic, Dick Morris yesterday named Dick Lugar as one of the “Big” Republican supports of the UN “Agenda 21″ crap that Obama is trying to sign. Losing Dickhead Lugar is, given that situation a really good thing.
coldwarrior wrote:
Did you look at any of those? I wonder if Rodan knows any of ‘em.
coldwarrior wrote:
Now if you could just hook us up with say, about a thousand shaft sales a month…
The Dems in Wisconsin aren’t buying what Big Labor is selling.
well like I said it’s hard for the MSM to convince a man (or woman)they got a job and all is skippy when it ain’t.
doriangrey wrote:
got a link for that?
how can anyone claiming to be a republican be for agenda 21?
this party needs a serious purge.
Buh-bye entrenched commie.
coldwarrior wrote:
Na, sorry no link, it was something Dick Morris said on Hannity yesterday, however Dick said it was covered in bloody detail in his new book “Screwed“.
Mr Caps wrote:
i am very pleased with the gop voters in IN.
thanks guys!
doriangrey wrote:
Lugar was the same kind of knob as was Arlan Sphincter. Hatch needs to go, too.
coldwarrior wrote:
The downside of course is…. That the GOP entrenched aristocrats are not likely to find this amusing and will no doubt react to one of their own getting so unceremoniously kicked out on his ass.
@ doriangrey:
Dick called it Screwed? lol
NoThreat2U wrote:
Yea, Dick has always had a shall we say, way with words.
doriangrey wrote:
yes perhaps they will react… nothing like having a hot cup of tea poured on one’s balls to get a reaction.
@ doriangrey:
That’s Dick for ya. lol lol
@ NoThreat2U:
Hope you are feeling better.
/say the baby and she is just getting cuter and cuter and loves to give me kisses!!!
@ Lily:
say= saw
damn keyboard.
Lily wrote:
I know… what’s up with these damned uppity keyboards, always typing things we didn’t type?
Lily wrote:
/the piano has been drinking…
@ doriangrey:
@ brookly red:
It’s time for the GOP to grow up, sure they’re offended but they need to get over it.
2010 was just the beginning
@ Lily:
The pain has passed, for now. I hate going hungry but sometimes food just hates me. lol Aw baby kisses are always the best!!!!
Mr Caps wrote:
Hopefully by Nov 7th the GOP Aristocrats will be a whole hell of a lot more offended, and unemployed.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Speaking of pain in ones stomach, that reminds me that I haven’t eaten today… I should probably do something about that…
@ NoThreat2U:
Know the feeling. Fried food or rich sauces might want to stay away from.
/my body is at war with me, but nothing like your problems. Prayers for you every night.
@ brookly red:
Well I have been drinking caffine free Dr. Pepper…anything stronger and I’m in a world of hurt.
doriangrey wrote:
They think they are too good for us. Plus they hate us.
Mr Caps wrote:
I am a Conservative. I will vote GOP as a lesser of 2 evils but I will not donate or support them. Eric Holder is not in jail. When the cell door slams shut behind him I will consider writing them a check.
Anyone seen any Wisconsin results? Will walker hang or hang in?
@ doriangrey:
Good idea. lol
@ Lily:
Fried foods to bother me but I can’t always be picky about what is available. My daughter made me a tbone the other day. I ate the whole damn thing….and kept it down!!
Tanker wrote:
/didn’t you see drudge? there is no Wisconsin. Obama disbanded it by executive order. It is now known as Michellsilvaina and it’s capital is Uniontown.
@ NoThreat2U:
Yeah I know… soup? A sandwich? Jello?
NoThreat2U wrote:
@ Lily:
I stay away from fried foods like I would something horrible!
/gall bladder problems
@ Tanker:
I think the mayor of Milwaukee took it, this is the same guy who lost to Walker in 2010 by 5%
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/08/us-usa-politics-wisconsin-idUSBRE84706420120508
I’ll always favor a tea party candidate over a mainstreamer. I want less govt in my life. A place where no one gets rich by suing in a court of law.
@ Lily:
Sometimes I think it varies from day to day, that is why it is so frustrating. And I really need something more substantial then jello, I have lost all muscle mass. I think that is why my bones hurt….the muscle that holds them together is disappearing. I am trying to get more protein in my diet.
@ brookly red:
I dont know if it is so much the fried part that bothers me or all the carbs. I can’t tolerate pasta or bread either. It is all such trial and error for me.
Lily wrote:
God gave us some removable parts. Yeah for Science…God style!
@ brookly red:
Baked, soup etc.
/trying to give you ideas {{NT2U}}!!
Iowa is ready if Wisconsin and Indiana fail. Facebook link
brookly red wrote:
My “stellar” congress critter Darrel Issa is working on that
Tanker wrote:
I still have a cough from my last two bouts of broncitis and sinus infection…waiting for myself to get well enough to have it removed.
Like I said…body. at. war. with. me.
@ Tanker:
Mine isn’t removable at this time so I have to suffer.
@ Mr Caps:
Thanks, I was thinking it was the recall election today for some reason. Must remember to keep up with things!
darkwords wrote:
No hold(er) on here… the family of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry do need to get paid here.
@ 50 NoThreat2U: Wheatgrass juice to keep your basic health in balance. I’m getting old and I am finding I have to eat less sugar and less processed foods. More oatmeal, eggs, and green crap. Probably should have all along but it was inconvenient and boring. lol
NoThreat2U wrote:
Sorry to hear that…have been following your ups and downs from the sidelines. Prayers go up for you and yours daily!
@ NoThreat2U:
Oh wow. You are on a trial and error thing aren’t you. God Bless you.
/hope you find what you can eat. Bet you are craving protein.
Mr Caps wrote:
Stellar indeed.
NoThreat2U wrote:
I feel for you big time!
Good to see that Dick Lugar is a goner! It is time to purge the party of these “reach across the aisle” RINO’s.
Although I am forced to be part of a labor union, I have donated $50 to Scott Walker, and would encourage everybody here to support him if at all possible. Wisconsin is the first battle in the war against big labor, and it is crucial that we win this one.
darkwords wrote:
Always loved veggies ….the sugar thing tho…I love my sodas. So far my blood work comes up good considering my love of sodas!
@ darkwords:
I actually am looking for more healthy foods to eat. I drink soy milk because I can’t handle dairy anymore. I am not fond of taking man made meds…..instead I take melatonin to sleep at night. No processed foods for me…the thought creeps out. No fast food either because of the sodium but that isn’t a big deal, I don’t eat that garbage anyway. Might try the wheat grass seeing as how we do have a health food store in town. Oh, also taking (what some people say helps) milk thistle…supposed to cleanse the liver.
@ Tanker:
Well thank you very kindly….prayers are always appreciated
@ Lily:
I do try to listen to what my body tells me. I do need the protein and also vitamin K…low potassium. This is so fun/// lol
@ tunnelrat:
This is huge blow to the Tranzi Wing of the GOP. The cool thing is that Mourdoch is an electable Conservative! He’s state Treasurer. so he is known statewide.
This is great news!
NoThreat2U wrote:
milk thistle is very good, make sure you get the kind mixed w/Tumeric
@ Lily:
It’s all good. Stuff happens
@ NoThreat2U:
{{{NT2U}}}! I know you’re going throu hell.
Tanker wrote:
today the Big Labor backed guy in WI lost in the Dem primary to the not Big Labor backed candidate.
Big Labor could not deliver the goods with their own voters!
@ NoThreat2U:
He’s gone. The dude was a Transnationalist who supported the UN and House of Saud! I’m so happy!
@ NoThreat2U:
I hope you get better!
@ NoThreat2U:
Yes it does. The way of this world.
NoThreat2U wrote:
milk thistle protects not cleanses. Silymarin is both an anti-inflammatory and antioxidant. it is unclear if it actually does anything.
studies are needed
doriangrey wrote:
Yup, he a Tranzi one worlder!
coldwarrior wrote:
I knew there was something wrong commie ville.
@ NoThreat2U:
I had fatty liver for a long time. I tried this http://www.liverdoctor.com. I thought it went well. Her practice is focused on woman though. I didn’t get boobs from the work so I guess it is safe.
For wheatgrass a good starting point is here. http://www.wigmore.org/
@ Rodan:
Well Rodan you must be offering up Masses to kick out the traitors.
/keep it up!
If you haven’t…then do!
@ Lily:
Shit happens. lol
@ 78 Mr Caps: Then the Badger woman won? IRC she is a radical lefty. Might ensure a win for Gov Walker unless the peeps in Wisconsin are bonkers.
coldwarrior wrote:
One of the most brilliant advertising campaigns ever was Charles Saatchi in England. “labor isn’t working”
coldwarrior wrote:
Does this make it easier or harder for Walker with the Independents in the recall. Must admit I’ve not had time to follow it closely!
@ brookly red:
I have been hearing a lot about Tumeric. Gonna have to look into more info about eating natural and healthy.
@ NoThreat2U:
Don’t I know it. Day to day {NT2U}!
@ 76 coldwarrior: i took a liver cleansing tea yesterday and it knocked me on my ass. I believe what it did was clean the liver somewhat. And the rest of the body had to compensate. So for someone in poor health I wouldn’t reccomend it unless they are working with a doctor.
@ Rodan:
Enjoyed the Charles Bonita cartoon. It was funny and usually I have a rigid sense of humor.
@ Rodan:
No matter what happens, I will be fine. Just gotta wrap my head around the word “transplant”. Not prepared for the long healing process of that!
@ coldwarrior:
Really? I have had more then one person tell me to use the milk thistle. But I will take your word for it. Any thoughts about the tumeric?
@ Tanker:
We’ll find out in June I guess.
@ NoThreat2U:
Hopefully the healing process will not be as bad as you think.
/keep your hopes up.
darkwords wrote:
All kudos go to Pan of the Forest. He’s kicking ass at DOD!
NoThreat2U wrote:
Tumeric expands blood vessels, no mater what it is or where it is more blood flow means more oxygen, more oxygen means more life. It also tastes great so go for the curry chicken
Mr Caps wrote:
I have a good Army friend in Madison. I tried to get his feel for what’s going on, But all he really wants to talk about is our getting together and drinking. I swear, I believe they do a lot of drinking up the Wisconsin territory!
NoThreat2U wrote:
milk thistle 300 mg + tumeric 700 mg x 2 daily is the standard dose. it works.
Just got here so I don’t know if anyone has mentioned the ad Lugar ran saying Mourdock would throw granny over the cliff.
RINO doesn’t begin to describe this clown. Go TEA Party!
@ Rancher:
Apparently the ad didn’t work either.
Funny DOD picture from Pan of the Forest!
NoThreat2U wrote:
eat curries! (has lots o tumeric)
i’ll make ya one to try!
The guy who beat Luger was backed by the National Rifle Association. I hope he wins in November, I love to see those commie heads exploding.
Great news! So what was the spread?
@ Rancher:
This is huge a win. He’s a Transnationalist Progressive. I am so happy. What’s good is that Richard Mourdock has won statewide elections. SO he will hold the seat!
I’m so exactic!
NoThreat2U wrote:
hold on, i just said that milk thistle isnt a cleanser, it is a protector tho.
there have been no official medical large N studies confirming it works, that said, there are plenty of studies that can show it helps. clear it with your doc of course.
tumeric is in the same boat, clear it with your doc.
@ waldensianspirit:
63-36!
Tanker wrote:
the word in WI is that walker’s cuts and reigning in the unions has prevented layoffs and actually allowed more hiring.
so i think he is going to be just fine in june
Lugar can now work on his Senatorial Library and leave us in peace
@ Lily:
Recovering from an organ transplant means you are basically sequestered from everyone and everything because the anti rejection drugs lower your immune system. Really not prepared to lay around on my ass all alone for six months or longer. lol
@ brookly red:
That does make sense. According to the the doc, the fluid I had drained was because the blood was basically seperating itself. It is having a hard time flowing into my heart. I forget the term for it. Dammit. But that probably explains why I get tired out so easy.
@ Mr Caps:
this election in WI is huge.
labor leaders just lost cred, big time…big time with their own people!
@ Rodan:
Cool! May that make some high minded folks quake a little
darkwords wrote:
waht was in it?
@ Rodan:
What a beating…Take that RINO!
@ brookly red:
I will add the tumeric to my regemin. Thanks!
@ coldwarrior:
Arent curries hot? I do love some hot foods. lol
brookly red wrote:
my first culinary love is indian food.
the guys at the indian grocery know me by first name and always give me a discount
Tanker wrote:
my roomate at DLI in monterey was from madison…
*remembers an extended alcoholic haze…beaches…booze*
coldwarrior wrote:
Good, from what I understand WI is doing a lot better since Walker took the helm.
@ coldwarrior:
Ah standard liver cleanse tea out of the health food store here. Nothing on the bag label and I threw away the box. The tea had a licorice taste to it.
@ Mr Caps:
@ Mr Caps:
This is huge win for the Tea Party. Dick Lugar is a Saudi stooge and a one worlder. Fuck him. I can’t wait till Ms. Lindsey is removed.
Rancher wrote:
sleeping giant starts to stir….
@ coldwarrior:
I asked about the milk thistle. His reply was “it cant hurt but it probably wont help.” I will ask about about the tumeric too. If I can go natural I will.
Mr Caps wrote:
this is what i understand from reports.
i have no peeps in WI to back me up tho
@ NoThreat2U:
Just remember you have your computer to stay in touch!!! And to communicate!!!
Yeah I know that will be a bummer. But hey you will get your life back!
@ coldwarrior:
Sure hope so! Now KY needs lugar up McConnell soon!
Another funny pic from Pan!
NC has defended the institution of marriage 48-32
Lily wrote:
The fact that Lugar voted for Ryan’s budget sure didn’t help sell that slander.
Tanker wrote:
Yup, he needs to go. Another person I want gone is Ms. Lindsey Graham.
@ 114 coldwarrior: I was at DLI long ago also. Loved it, but I played pool the whole time and drank. Didn’t learn so much. First time away from home. lot of firsts at DLI. I’d always love to move back there but went back a few years ago and thought the weather wasn’t that great.
my regret is I was a golfer and never played Pebble Beach because I thought the $50 green fee was robbery.
It’s called portal vein hypertension.
waldensianspirit wrote:
Which will be fully funded by the House of Saud!
darkwords wrote:
that is a recipe i came up with…looks like a great jerk chicken rub as well.
@ Rodan: heh, i seem to like the art there. i always laugh. i suppose it is “in” humor but I laugh
NoThreat2U wrote:
classic
Lugar? I recommend you switch parties so you can get you ass beat again. Follow the Arlen Specter Model into history
NoThreat2U wrote:
ahhhh….now that i am very familiar with.
coldwarrior wrote:
Labor leaders have lost their cred with their own people a looong time ago. They are crooked and the members know it. Any attempt to out them then you are black-balled. They pay their dues to keep their jobs but have no love for the hacks that are their leaders.
waldensianspirit wrote:
he cant.
there is a sore loser law in IN
@ coldwarrior:I’ll try that and let you know if I end up like a chicken jerk.
coldwarrior wrote:
Indian food is very good in a cardio vascular kinda way (but it is of course racist, so I if you have a pony tail I recommend fried cheese sticks with extra mayo & lots of salt) but Italian is also good if you don’t cheese out… garlic is a great blood thinner.
coldwarrior wrote:
Well then team Obama should sue IN for him so they can get their asses beat again
Lily wrote:
i know, i was a teamster for years and my dad was a union prez in the ibew.
recently, the leadership has become seriously disconnected from the members. this will result in eviceration of the leadership of these unions if romney can build the economy.
already the trades and the teamsters when polled by rank and file are overwhelmingly gop.
darkwords wrote:
be sure to roast yourself over some pimento wood to get that righteous jamaican flavor mon!
@ darkwords:
I believe black licorice is good for the liver.
@ Lily:
It all just so scary. I don’t like how it freaks my kids out. Being the hardass that I am, I completely let it all get to me over the weekend. I don’t cry but damned if my brother didn’t get me going. It was cleansing. I don’t like being weak, mentally or physically.
It amuses me to imagine the Obama Admin suing States to get rid of sore loser laws
@ brookly red:
i learned to cook indian a long time ago as explained in the beginning of the first link below. most people have a spice rack, i have spice cup boards.
for your culinary reading
and more!
coldwarrior wrote:
Yes they are. My husband pays his dues…but has NO LOVE for the leaders in the union. He says they are all crooked and trying to out them is damn near impossible.
@ coldwarrior:
See, it isn’t looking good for me.
@ darkwords:
LOL @ chicken jerk. That made me giggle. lol
brookly red wrote:
the hot is a great analgesic and anti-inflamitory
the curry and tumeric are anti-inflamatory and vasodialators respectively.
@ NoThreat2U:
You got to let it out sometime. {{{hugs}}}
waldensianspirit wrote:
i can see that happening.
@ 142 NoThreat2U:
Small Steps
Doctors care
Weakness is a sign from God pointing to strength. I hate being weak also especially in my immune system these days, but I am slogging through it looking for stronger ways to do things. a lot of lifestyle change which as a conservative I hate.
catharsis is good. Where you land from it is the stable safe place to move forward from. As long as you didn’t kill anyone along the way.
@ Lily:
in due time…in due time
Mr Caps wrote:
morals will be a bigger part of this election than the libs think… they are gonna have that wtf I just got mugged look on their faces come November… remember they really do think normal people dig them and are in for a rude suprise.
Mr Caps wrote:
excellent!
a wonderful issue to be fought at the state level. there is no reason for this to be a prez election issue
coldwarrior wrote:
most spices are good for you
@ coldwarrior:
What are you guys doing the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend? My sis is coming in and I am issuing a blanket invite to anyone who would like to come to a cookout. Got tiki torches out the wazoo….gonna have a fire…some good eats. Yinz are welcome to come over if you are in the area. Children are always welcome too.
@ 152 brookly red: I copied the BSM take on gay marriage.
I seem to waffle on the subject I don’t like seeing kids with gays parents feel ostracized. But I also value the idea of St Augustine that marriage is meant for procreation.
Social norms rise and fall like tides over history. Not enough people are projecting the BSM view to get a fair discussion rolling.
coldwarrior wrote:
no reason except they want it like that… these people really do think they are the majority. I say let them bring it and let us beat it to death.
@ Lily:
@ darkwords:
The funny part is, I made the big bad Marine brother listen to me being a weakling. But at least he listened so that counts for something.
NoThreat2U wrote:
we will see, that will be at the front of the invites IF we are in town.
heading up north as well during that time.
however….i dont know what interviews/jobs i will be at by then, so all of our plans are up in the air.
@ 152 brookly red: Yes I think the santorum turnout shows a lot of people feel their basic values in life are being endangered by Obama.
I was reading some of the comments over on the WI thread at the Huffington Post, the libs have nothing but name calling and bitterness…they know their done.
brookly red wrote:
i can think of none that are bad for you. except star anise…i hate star anise
@ 161 Mr Caps: I hope they change into Jimmy Carter Bitter.
OOT was going up at 2200…moed back to normal time 2300
For me it is getting close to the time that the GoP has to start rolling out the Obama attack ads daily. They need to be slick and to the point. A lot of bloggers out there have some good video commentary up. The sad part though is that the GoP leadership is still unaware of what a blogger is.
NoThreat2U wrote:
No shame in being weak. Sometimes when we are weak in body, spiritually we are very strong. Like you said shit happens and it effects us physically and yes I am weak in body…wish I were stronger.
@ coldwarrior:
That’s cool…you know where I am. I still gotta see them babies!!!! lol
@ Lily:
I really hate being weak in body too. I did my dishes today…not alot and no scrubbing, but standing up for 10 or 20 minutes kicks my ass. I feel useless and I don’t like it.
darkwords wrote:
It’s an insult he is trying to destroy them. But that has been going on even before bho…he just ramped it up a lot more.
Take for example this insanity….
Virginia: Federal Judge Proposes Stripping 10 Commandments Down To 6 To Please ACLU…
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/08/virginia-federal-judge-proposes-stripping-10-commandments-down-to-6-to-please-aclu/
Indiana don’t want you
No-one’s got your back there!
Indiana don’t want you
No-one’s got your back there!
darkwords wrote:
attacked not endangered. disrespected not endangered. there is no danger, the evil one can lead us from the truth but he can not change the truth. the truth is the truth, it is not debatable. let them try to change the truth, they can pass a law that says men can have babies, fine it is perfectly legal for men to have babies & and I respect their right to have babies!
Iowahawk requests NC be put on trial before a war crimes tribunal.
@ Lily:
Does it not say at the end of Revelations something about not adding to, nor subtracting from, the words in the bible????????
NoThreat2U wrote:
It says that in Deuteronomy.
NoThreat2U wrote:
well if you want to get all biblical the book of revelations was in fact adding to
Mr Caps wrote:
Sadly we know how that worked out here in California.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Shows how often I read my bible. lol I thought it was one of the very last lines of Revelation. Thank you for clearing that up for me. Seriously.
@ NoThreat2U:
Yes it does and the ACLU is not God! Nor shall we bow down to their demands to enact their tenets on us!
That is just disgracefull.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Double whammy!
@ NoThreat2U:
I think it is in both.
@ 169 Lily: weird. To me that judge is just illegitimate. I think the 10 commandments are a foundation of western laws. Let people make of them what they will. The pyramid on the dollar bill had religious overtone when it was built and when it was placed on the dollar bill. The scales of justice fundamentally have a religious foundation.
@ brookly red:
I do know that tons of “books” were removed from the bible. I, personally, thought long and hard about the things brought up in The DaVince Code actually…especially referring to Mary Magdalene. It was the men of the church that turned her into a “whore. Just my personal opinion. Sometimes I choose though to see it as plain as it is stated and I know we are not to twist the words of the bible.
Why try to whittle down the Ten Commandments? Why not just call ‘em the “Ten Suggestions,” as the lefties do?
@ darkwords:
Yes indeed.
@ NoThreat2U:
I wouldn’t go by what was in the DaVince Code.
darkwords wrote:
Indeed, perhaps finding it’s root’s in the Book of Danial Chapter 5 vs 25 through 28.
@ Lily:
That was fiction with a few facts thrown in.
Revelation 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the Holy City, and from the things which are written in this book.
NoThreat2U wrote:
People talk about this as though it were somehow nefarious. Well, there has to be an editing process with any book—and if there are competing versions of the Bible (and there are), then you have to decide which is the “right” one. The existence of free will means that there will be choices.
To me though that is the definition of modern liberalism. Trying to deconstruct and destroy anything not explicitly relevant to their present day needs. They judge the past by modern standards. A sensible person should be able to accept how bloodthirsty the past has been. And at the same time recognize people have evolved. To some extent. The 10 commandments are a fundamental linchpin of not just religion but of history.
@ NoThreat2U:
It says it a couple of times. The leftists are playing with fire in my opinion.
darkwords wrote:
too early.
start that stuff in september
@ 188 NoThreat2U: To me he was talking about his revelation. And probably referring to the liberal tendency towards revisionism. Even in those days they knew Obama was bad.
@ Lily:
I don’t take it all as fact, but it was very interesting to think about those things in a different way. According to some things I have read, even though Jesus was divine, he was still HERE as a human man and it would have been normal for a Jewish man of his age to be married. I don’t see that as too far fetched. I appreciate the fact that the book made me think. And why not a child from their union? The word “vessel” has many meanings. Just food for thought, at least to me. Doesn’t change my opinion of what I have been taught, just added to it.
NoThreat2U wrote:
don’t lose any sleep over it. words are words and men will twist them. those men will be called pharisees. it is what it is and you get it or you don’t.
coldwarrior wrote:
Especially after a nice long, hot summer of “Occupy” idiots and racist flash mobs which Obama and Holder refuse to condemn or prosecute.
@ darkwords:
As one ER doctor once said if people adhered to the 10 Commandments the ER’s of this country would be a lot less busy.
NoThreat2U wrote:
That actually referrers specifically to the Book of Revelation. One has to keep in mind that the Christian Scriptures commonly referred to as “The Bible” is actually a collection of 66 different and complete books.
@ 189 buzzsawmonkey: I think if people want to see that information it is in the Gnostic writings. Not a religious scholar at all. I trade in cliches and bad jokes.
NoThreat2U wrote:
Or, “too, too divine,” if you go with certain modern theologians…
Lily wrote:
I have sent more than one man to the ER over covet.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
That is very true, which is why the DaVince Code made me think. I have…or had…and excellent link to ALL religious texts. There are so many gospels that were not only tossed aside, but were claimed as heresy too. I like the idea of filling my head with all those things, and then deciding what feels right. Part of that whole free will thing I guess.
@ NoThreat2U:
True he was fully a man, but and it is a big but he was here for a purpose and I don’t think he married, remember he was also different because he was Divine. To me the DaVince Code just made people think in the wrong direction.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
68 all over again…
the whole world’s watchin’
versus
law and order again
this is the last hoorah for the baby boomers, by next cycle they start going into long term care homes and get all demented. they want 68 again? ok.
nixon won huge after that summer.
‘Nite, folks.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand.
as it is written
Lily wrote:
hey now! c’mon…trauma and gluttony and maiming feed the family here!
darkwords wrote:
i love the gnostic texts. very very interesting reasding
@ coldwarrior:
brookly red wrote:
pharaoh agrees
Lily wrote:
it sure is.
@ brookly red:
That is why a lot of people forgo organized religion. I am not talking atheist here either. I mean people who know this part of the bible or that part and design their lives around it. I for one would probably go crazy at CWs church since they stand up so much. I am used to stand up sit down in Catholic church. Rituals don’t mean much in the long run
ok, so i am a cricket junky. i watch it all the time on the dish. the indian cricket channel has an ad selling am/pm mini marts with armco/sunoco franchises.
seriously, you want to know why the indians own all the convenience stores? ever see an ad for a franchise opportunity on ‘american’ tv?
I love this link…
http://www.sacred-texts.com/
@ NoThreat2U:
Have to disagree with the rituals thing. They do mean something.
/don’t mean any offense.
NoThreat2U wrote:
there arent supposed to be pews in an orthodox church.
those who need to sit are provided chairs. the rest stand in respect…for a very very long time.
NoThreat2U wrote:
An idea I personally do not ascribe to for this reason. The concept that the Jewish and Christian Scriptures have any value above being metaphysical works of philosophy is that the writers had the words of God himself breathed right into them. This is what distinguishes them from metaphysical philosophy.
Therefore by logical extension as those books were completed the same God who breathed those words through the various writers also would have exercised editorial control over what was or was not included in the final compilation. Though men seemed to decide which books to include and which to exclude, it was in fact the exact same Spirit making those decision as it was who guided the hands to write those books.
To think or suggest that God either did not or could not do this is to argue against God having been the divine inspiration behind each book in the first place, and thus reducing the Bible from a divinely inspired text, to just another collection of metaphysical philosophies.
@ Lily:
I don’t think he reached his full “divinity” until he was resurrected. The Trinity shows us three…The Father…who is omnipotent, The Son….He in human form, and The Holy Spirit..which he shared with us. Like I said though, it is all just my opinion and I really do think God wants us to think about these things.
@ coldwarrior:
Respect to God. Showing reverence.
NoThreat2U wrote:
one of my favorite links.
from there:
the mahabarata is one of the crowning achievements of written word
Lily wrote:
or as mrs coldwarrior will say…(as her dad is an orthodox priest) you can fit more people into the church if there arent any pews and that means more money in the till.
typical russians.
@ NoThreat2U:
The Trinity is they are all one, yet seperate, yet one. Jesus’s Divinty was at the moment of conception by the Holy Spirit. So his Divinty was at the beginning.
@ Lily:
No offense taken. In fact I think this is a wonderful discussion. God wants us to think!
@ coldwarrior:
I have heard you say that…about the standing. Either way, our God is the same God. We all have our rites and rituals to worship him. I was not trying to say the Orthodox Church was wrong. I hope you didn’t take it that way.
Lily wrote:
Pouring Guinness is a ritual for the ages.
NoThreat2U wrote:
I would disagree, “And they found him in the Temple, teaching as one having authority”. He was 12 when that happened.
Lily wrote:
hollywood is not a place i would look to for spiritual guidance
NoThreat2U wrote:
none taken.
@ NoThreat2U:
To put it simply …. Jesus was God in human form.
Poteen wrote:
it is…allow me to join you in this ageless ritual.
YUM!!!
@ doriangrey:
I don’t trust that to mankind. It all may have been presented to them, but in the long run, it was men who decided what goes in the bible and what didn’t.
@ Lily:
But like Buzz said up above….too too too divine? Would he not bleed if he hit his thumb with a hammer?
brookly red wrote:
Excatly. The DaVince Code put more doubt into people about God’s Divinity.
coldwarrior wrote:
Meh… I don’t do rituals… I prefer to drink straight from the bottle…
Lily wrote:
fify
@ brookly red:
I don’t, I was just…expanding on the issue I guess you could say. That den of iniquity would never guide me. lol
@ Lily:
Human in all he did?
doriangrey wrote:
you are so guilty.
wait till you see what happens at the oot my friend.
i hope you have a good lawyer.
And just to set all of you blasphemers on the true path;
“There is no god but Lombardi and Rodgers is his messenger”
Offseason sucks./
NoThreat2U wrote:
Then by logical extension you cannot trust one single word written in the Bible, since every single word was written by men. It is utterly illogical to believe that God could cause what he wanted to be written in any specific book, but unable to control which books were included in the final text.
He either could or he could not, if he could not, then he also could not control what was written in each Book. Ergo, you must either accept5 on faith that the Bible as a compiled work was done exactly as God intended, or that none of it was.
@ NoThreat2U:
No..not too, too Divine. He suffered the human weaknesses and battled those weaknesses. He was born without orginal sin too. Did he not weep for his friend that died? Did he not suffer? Of course he could bleed. But, big but he also was Divine so big difference and he knew his purpose for being here.
Lily wrote:
I never saw it actually. I never shot heroin either. And I don’t tweet or do facebook. Mama didn’t raise no fools. If it looks like shit & smells like shit I don’t need to taste it to be sure.
@ NoThreat2U:
He suffered the weakness of the human condition but he at the age of 12 dazzled the priests in the Temple with his knowledge. Does this not tell you he was different????
@ doriangrey:
@ Lily:
Folks, it is just a personal view that I am constantly thinking about. Nothing carved in stone….just giving some extra thought to some things I have been taught. It’s all good
@ Lily:
@ brookly red:
@ doriangrey:
@ Poteen:
@ coldwarrior:
@ NoThreat2U:
Death Row Inmate gets 40% against Obama in West Virginia Primary!
@ brookly red:
i did a long study on the templars as an undergrad.
the dan brown stuff is fun in the same way a good detective thriller is fun. thats all.
@ NoThreat2U:
Just trying to answer your questions….no harm, no foul!
coldwarrior wrote:
Yea, but then again, cocaine is pretty fun when you first start using it too, and we all pretty much know how that ends up.
Lily wrote:
Exactly! God wants us to seek.
coldwarrior wrote:
Well, it’s about time someone outed Dorian to me.
I still can’t figure out who he is.
Let’s hope he doesn’t sue though.
doriangrey wrote:
i never did coke because i know i would have liked it way too much.
Lily wrote:
don’t get all over it. at this point your on board or not.
today the planed parenthood mooks were out side my office, I said no thank you. I owe them no explanation, had the Lord wanted it to be differently it would have been so.
Calo wrote:
the charges are pending on the oot as we speak.
oot is up
@ brookly red:
Oh I am just trying to answer {NT2U} questions. She is searching.
Moving to the OOT…..
@ Lily:
Aren’t we all searching? OK, really gonna check out the OOT now. lol
@ NoThreat2U:
Of course!
@ Lily:
We are told to seek God. That is what I am doing.
@ NoThreat2U:
@ NoThreat2U:
That you are!
@ Lily:
Left a smartassed remark for the OOT. To tired to stay up though. Great discussion! See you sometime tomorrow. Take care and get over that nasty cold! {{{Lily}}}
Sweet dreams {NT2U}! Trying my damnest on the damn cold.
Howling Mad Mourdock was always my favorite A-Team character.