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Jerry Brown v. Chris Christie, or the road to fiscal hell is paved with progressive intentions

by Speranza ( 88 Comments › )
Filed under Business, Progressives, Unions at May 15th, 2012 - 11:30 am

What else can you expect when you bring back a failed retread to fix problems that he himself was largely responsible for?

As one poster has written:

It’s hard to believe that California was once “Reagan Country”. Governor Moonbeam is back and we are in a world of hurt.

by William McGurn

In his January 2011 inaugural address, California Gov. Jerry Brown declared it a “time to honestly assess our financial condition and make the tough choices.” Plainly the choices weren’t tough enough: Mr. Brown has just announced that he faces a state budget deficit of $16 billion—nearly twice the $9.2 billion he predicted in January. In Sacramento Monday, he coupled a new round of spending cuts with a call for some hefty new tax hikes.

In his own inaugural address back in January 2010, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie also spoke of making tough choices for the people of his state. For his first full budget, Mr. Christie faced a deficit of $10.7 billion—one-third of projected revenues. Not only did Mr. Christie close that deficit without raising taxes, he is now plumping for a 10% across-the-board tax cut.

[.......]
On the “millionaire’s” tax, Mr. Brown says that California desperately needs to approve one if the state is to recover. The one on California’s November ballot kicks in at income of $250,000 and would raise the top rate to 13.3% from 10.3% on incomes above $1 million. Again in sharp contrast, when New Jersey Democrats attempted to embarrass Mr. Christie by sending a millionaire’s tax to his desk, he called their bluff and promptly vetoed it.

On public-employee unions, Mr. Brown can talk a good game—at Monday’s press conference, he announced a 5% pay cut for state workers, and he has proposed pension reform. Yet for all his pull with unions (the last time he was governor, he gave California’s public-sector unions collective-bargaining rights), Gov. Brown, a Democrat, has not been able to accomplish what Republican Gov. Christie has: persuade a Democratic legislature to require government workers to kick in more for their health care and pensions.

Now, no one will confuse New Jersey with free-market Hong Kong. Still, because the challenges facing the Golden and Garden States are so similar, the different paths taken by their respective governors are all the more striking. And these two men are by no means alone.

Our states today are conducting a profound and contentious rethink about the right level of taxes, spending and government. Most obvious is the battle for Wisconsin. There Republican Gov. Scott Walker finds himself pitted against public-sector unions that successfully forced a recall election for June 5 after the legislature adopted the governor’s package of labor reforms last spring.

Amid the turmoil—Democratic legislators fled the state to prevent a vote, while union-backed protesters occupied the Capitol—Mr. Walker looked weakened. Now he has taken the lead in polls. More than that, voters have taken the lesson: A recent Marquette University Law School poll showed only 12% of Wisconsin voters listing “restoring collective bargaining rights for public employees” as their priority.

Indeed, the American Midwest today is home to some of the biggest experiments in government. Republicans now hold both the governorships and the legislatures in Michigan, Indiana and Ohio, and in Wisconsin they control all but the Senate. In each they are pushing for smaller, more accountable government. The outlier is Illinois, where Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn and his Democratic legislature pushed through a tax increase on their heavily indebted state.

Now ask yourself this. Can anyone look at Illinois and say to himself: I have seen the future and it works?

Indiana’s Mitch Daniels, a Republican, is probably the only governor who can truly claim to have turned around a failing state. That may change if we get eight years of Mr. Christie in New Jersey. Louisiana’s Bobby Jindal, also a Republican, may be another challenger for the title, having just succeeded in pushing through arguably the most far-reaching reform of any state public-school system in America.

Hard economic times bring their own lessons. Though few have been spared the ravages of the last recession and the sluggish recovery, those in states where taxes are light, government lives within its means, and the climate is friendly to investment have learned the value of the arrangement they have. They are not likely to give it up.

Meanwhile, leaders in some struggling states have taken notice. They know the road to fiscal hell is paved with progressive intentions. The question regarding the sensible ones is whether they have the will and wherewithal to impose the reforms they know their states need on the interest groups whose political and economic clout is so closely tied with the public purse.

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88 Responses to “Jerry Brown v. Chris Christie, or the road to fiscal hell is paved with progressive intentions”
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  1. Speranza
    1 | May 15, 2012 11:40 am

    Governor Moonbeam is the very definition of a washed up politician.


  2. 2 | May 15, 2012 11:41 am

    Christie needs to stay in NJ. he’s good there but suck for the whole country.


  3. 3 | May 15, 2012 11:42 am

    @ Speranza:

    He’s the Charles Johnson of politics.


  4. Speranza
    4 | May 15, 2012 11:43 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Christie needs to stay in NJ. he’s good there but suck for the whole country.

    He is too abrasive for the rest of the nation but is good for New Jersey.


  5. 5 | May 15, 2012 11:43 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Governor Moonbeam is the very definition of a washed up politician.

    “Washed Up”HA! especially after he was caught on Malibu Beach in delicto with Linda Ronstadt!


  6. Speranza
    6 | May 15, 2012 11:43 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    He’s the Charles Johnson of politics.

    Charles Johnson is rapidly descending into Dennis Kucinich territory.


  7. 7 | May 15, 2012 11:44 am

    @ Speranza:

    Plus he has a soft spot for the Muslim Brotherhood. Its bad enough the elites of the GOP and the Democrats are in the tank for the Muslim Brotherhood. Christie would support their agenda at a national level.


  8. 8 | May 15, 2012 11:44 am

    @ Speranza:

    he makes Alex Jones look sane.


  9. Speranza
    10 | May 15, 2012 11:46 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Plus he has a soft spot for the Muslim Brotherhood. Its bad enough the elites of the GOP and the Democrats are in the tank for the Muslim Brotherhood. Christie would support their agenda at a national level.

    It does not hurt New Jersey but would play terrible on the national stage.


  10. 11 | May 15, 2012 11:46 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    Christie needs to stay in NJ. he’s good there but suck for the whole country.

    He is too abrasive for the rest of the nation but is good for New Jersey.

    If by, to abrasive you mean, loves him some Sharia Law and hates him some Second Amendment, then yea, to abrasive.


  11. Speranza
    12 | May 15, 2012 11:47 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    he makes Alex Jones look sane.

    Alex Jones needs to be committed.


  12. Speranza
    13 | May 15, 2012 11:47 am

    @ doriangrey:
    Nope I was referring to his speaking style and his weight.


  13. 14 | May 15, 2012 11:47 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Christie is a Jihadi tool.


  14. 15 | May 15, 2012 11:47 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Linda Ronstadt has put on a few pounds over the years.

    Give her another 20 years and she’ll look just like Helen Thomas. :shock:


  15. 16 | May 15, 2012 11:48 am

    @ Speranza:

    Well his Pro-Islamic stance is just as bad as his style.


  16. 17 | May 15, 2012 11:49 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Christie is a Jihadi tool.

    Sadly you are right. But like they say about Taxacheuttes’s Scott Brown, he’s the best you can get in New Jersey.


  17. Speranza
    18 | May 15, 2012 11:49 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Linda Ronstadt has put on a few pounds over the years.

    Give her another 20 years and she’ll look just like Helen Thomas.

    Linda Ronstadt was once a very attractive gal, Helen Thomas I doubt ever was.


  18. Speranza
    19 | May 15, 2012 11:49 am

    @ doriangrey:
    If he can rein in the unions of New Jersey he is worth his weight in gold -- snark intended.


  19. 20 | May 15, 2012 11:52 am

    Speranza wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    If he can rein in the unions of New Jersey he is worth his weight in gold – snark intended.

    Reigning in the Unions is good, destroying the Second Amendment is bad, the good in this case does not outweigh the bad.


  20. 21 | May 15, 2012 11:57 am

    @ doriangrey:

    Enabling foreign enemies is treasonous. Christie should never be considered for a national level. Let him do the MB’s bidding there.


  21. 22 | May 15, 2012 11:59 am

    doriangrey wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    Linda Ronstadt has put on a few pounds over the years.

    Give her another 20 years and she’ll look just like Helen Thomas.

    And yet another Punishment Batallion in Download City!


  22. 23 | May 15, 2012 12:04 pm

    Macker wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Speranza wrote:
    Linda Ronstadt has put on a few pounds over the years.
    Give her another 20 years and she’ll look just like Helen Thomas.

    And yet another Punishment Batallion in Download City!

    BWAHAHAH….. :twisted:


  23. RIX
    24 | May 15, 2012 12:06 pm

    “It’s a real conflict for me when I go to a concert and find out somebody in the audience is a Republican or fundamental Christian. It can cloud my enjoyment. I’d rather not know.”
    Linda Ronstadt

    I saw her in concert as a yoot & she was hot.
    As the above quote illustrates, she is not an intellectual


  24. 25 | May 15, 2012 12:06 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Let him do the MB’s bidding there.

    Hmmm, I don’t actually dislike New Jersey, so I’m not sure New Jersey deserve that.


  25. 26 | May 15, 2012 12:08 pm

    RIX wrote:

    “It’s a real conflict for me when I go to a concert and find out somebody in the audience is a Republican or fundamental Christian. It can cloud my enjoyment. I’d rather not know.”
    Linda Ronstadt
    I saw her in concert as a yoot & she was hot.
    As the above quote illustrates, she is not an intellectual

    OK, I stand corrected, it won’t take another 20 years for her to look just like Helen Thomas, another 10 tops. :shock:


  26. Speranza
    27 | May 15, 2012 12:17 pm

    RIX wrote:

    “It’s a real conflict for me when I go to a concert and find out somebody in the audience is a Republican or fundamental Christian. It can cloud my enjoyment. I’d rather not know.”
    Linda Ronstadt

    I saw her in concert as a yoot & she was hot.
    As the above quote illustrates, she is not n intellectual

    I guess their money they put in her coffers is fine with her though.


  27. 28 | May 15, 2012 12:19 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    “It’s a real conflict for me when I go to a concert and find out somebody in the audience is a Republican or fundamental Christian. It can cloud my enjoyment. I’d rather not know.”
    Linda Ronstadt
    I saw her in concert as a yoot & she was hot.
    As the above quote illustrates, she is not n intellectual

    I guess their money they put in her coffers is fine with her though.

    Douchebag is just so inadequate a term when describing people like her.


  28. Speranza
    29 | May 15, 2012 12:20 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    If he can rein in the unions of New Jersey he is worth his weight in gold – snark intended.

    Reigning in the Unions is good, destroying the Second Amendment is bad, the good in this case does not outweigh the bad.

    The unions are killing NJ. I am not sure if most New Jerseyans or Northeasterners care one way or the other about guns. It is not a major issue there. No governor or mayor from that area is going to tell its citizens to arm up.


  29. 30 | May 15, 2012 12:30 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Speranza wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    If he can rein in the unions of New Jersey he is worth his weight in gold – snark intended.
    Reigning in the Unions is good, destroying the Second Amendment is bad, the good in this case does not outweigh the bad.

    The unions are killing NJ. I am not sure if most New Jerseyans or Northeasterners care one way or the other about guns. It is not a major issue there. No governor or mayor from that area is going to tell its citizens to arm up.

    The Second Amendment is the only guarantee in the constitution that ensures the entire rest of the Constitution is respected. If the New Jerseyans or Northeasterners don’t understand that, then they need some serious remedial Constitutional education.

    And if, as you suggest they do not understand it, then the blame for them not understanding it falls squarely on the shoulders of those politicians who did not protect the interests of those citizens from the machinations of various progressive/Marxist’s who indoctrinated them into a false understanding of what the Second Amendment was included in the United States Constitution for.

    The legal system as a saying, which applies in this case. Ignorance (or stupidity) is no excuse.


  30. RIX
    31 | May 15, 2012 12:31 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    OK, I stand corrected, it won’t take another 20 years for her to look just like Helen Thomas, another 10 tops

    Unfortunate, but she is an airhead.


  31. RIX
    32 | May 15, 2012 12:35 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I guess their money they put in her coffers is fine with her though.

    I am sure that she considers Republican & Christian
    money as legal tender.
    She made this comment after a Las Vegas apperance.
    Yup, could have been some Republicans.


  32. Speranza
    33 | May 15, 2012 12:59 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I am sure that she considers Republican & Christian
    money as legal tender.
    She made this comment after a Las Vegas apperance.
    Yup, could have been some Republicans.

    Yeah she injected left-wing politics into her concert and the people were pissed off at that. She tends to think that people who were her fans at the peak of her career were all Democrats.


  33. citizen_q
    34 | May 15, 2012 1:02 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    She tends to think that people who were her fans at the peak of her career were all Democrats.

    Or perhaps they never grew up?

    Don’t people tend towards a more conservative outlook as they mature?


  34. waldensianspirit
    35 | May 15, 2012 1:05 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    I never grew up and I’m so conservative the GOP elites look insane


  35. RIX
    36 | May 15, 2012 1:13 pm

    @ Speranza:
    She is silly , but she can sing.


  36. 37 | May 15, 2012 1:22 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    She is silly , but she can sing.

    She isn’t silly, her views are ugly and bigoted, their is nothing silly about bigotry.


  37. 38 | May 15, 2012 1:28 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Exactly! The Left get away with being bigoted Christopbobes and haters. They really shouldn’t. If you listen to them (especially someone like Bill Maher), replace the Christians and Republicans with blacks (and Jews, though most of these people are anti-Semitic. They just cloak that as being “anti-Zionist”, but we know what they really mean) and they sound like members of the Ku Klux Klan. There is nothing merely silly about that.


  38. Speranza
    39 | May 15, 2012 1:50 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    She is silly , but she can sing.

    She was big in the 1970′s -- had a great voice but faded in the decades afterwards.


  39. Speranza
    40 | May 15, 2012 1:50 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Don’t people tend towards a more conservative outlook as they mature?

    When you live in a cocoon it is different.


  40. 41 | May 15, 2012 2:04 pm

    Alarm Grows Among Dems About Obama’s Chances

    “You can be stylish and powerful, too. That’s Michelle’s advice.”

    -- President Obama telling graduates to temper but preserve their interest in clothing during his commencement address at Barnard College, a women-only college of New York’s Columbia University.

    I think this SOB just might implode before our eyes. Romney needs to stay on offense, on message and play his strong suit.


  41. 42 | May 15, 2012 2:08 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Economy and jobs, jobs and the Econommy! Are you better off than you were four years ago? Obama borrowed a trillion dollars from China and spent it on a stimulus. What did that buy us?


  42. citizen_q
    43 | May 15, 2012 2:15 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Where did the money go and end up? I want to see how much was effectively laundered to his supporters, or found its way back to the demoncraps. I bet if you look hard enough you will find the largest heist of public funds in history.


  43. Guggi
    44 | May 15, 2012 2:18 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Nancy Pelosis husband comes to mind.


  44. 45 | May 15, 2012 2:19 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    I bet if you look hard enough you will find the largest heist of public funds in history.

    You don’t even have to look very hard, in fact, you have to try mighty damned hard to not see it.


  45. 46 | May 15, 2012 2:20 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    I have no doubt that you are correct. It was the biggest fraud in all of history. And think what could have been bought with that money. You could have added an entire carrier battle group to our defense posture, created thoushands of jobs, and had money left over. A trillion dollars is an unreal sum of money. And it is gone, as gone as if he’d blown it on coke and whores, but the coke and whores would have stimulated the economy more than this rip-off did.


  46. 47 | May 15, 2012 2:22 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Where did the money go and end up? I want to see how much was effectively laundered to his supporters, or found its way back to the demoncraps. I bet if you look hard enough you will find the largest heist of public funds in history.

    I’m thinking this very subject will be a substantial issue in the campaign, along with the liberal bobble heads that have chanted “we should have spent more”. I’m not surprised Dems are already starting to drop Obama like a bad habit, but they’ll be circling the drain along with him.


  47. 48 | May 15, 2012 2:24 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    I’m hoping Romney has enough coat-tails to take the Senate with a solid majority of real Republicans. Then we’ll see if there really is a difference between the parties.


  48. m
    49 | May 15, 2012 2:25 pm

    Turkey suspects bird was Israeli agent

    AGAIN??!!

    lol


  49. m
    50 | May 15, 2012 2:28 pm

    Syria: Jihadists expel all families from Christian village

    And our elites (both parties, before Rodan has a duck) want to help these people??!!


  50. 51 | May 15, 2012 2:28 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Dems are already starting to drop Obama like a bad habit, but they’ll be circling the drain along with him.

    Yup, the Dem’s hitched their handbasket to Obama without first asking “Why are we riding in a handbasket and why are we surrounded by all these dark sulfurous flames?”


  51. 52 | May 15, 2012 2:29 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Yup, the Dem’s hitched their handbasket to Obama without first asking “Why are we riding in a handbasket and why are we surrounded by all these dark sulfurous flames?”

    :D :D


  52. Lily
    53 | May 15, 2012 2:34 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    I bet if you look hard enough you will find the largest heist of public funds in history.

    You don’t even have to look very hard, in fact, you have to try mighty damned hard to not see it.

    Wouldn’t Solyandra and Light-Squared be right up there?
    Oh wait and the donation to William Ayers just a week or so ago?
    Wait again what about Fast and Furious?
    Dear me again what about him using taxpayers money on fund raising trips?
    Need I forget what about all the taxpayers money wasted on Green “shovel ready” jobs that never appeared?


  53. 54 | May 15, 2012 2:35 pm

    m wrote:

    Syria: Jihadists expel all families from Christian village

    And our elites (both parties, before Rodan has a duck) want to help these people??!!

    When people become so confident that they’ll be defended, no matter what, they begin to do the indefensible and ultimately, that is their undoing. That goes for the Mooz as well as the Dems.


  54. citizen_q
    55 | May 15, 2012 2:39 pm

    m wrote:

    Turkey suspects bird was Israeli agent
    AGAIN??!!
    lol

    Wasn’t it saudi arabia that captured the mossad vulture?

    Saudi Arabia ‘detains’ Israeli vulture for spying

    The only help I want rendered to muslims is to help them kill each other.
    The article even mentions the egyptian claim of mosssad sharks.

    There is no more cancerous mental and spiritual malady than islam.

    m wrote:

    Syria: Jihadists expel all families from Christian village
    And our elites (both parties, before Rodan has a duck) want to help these people??!!


  55. Lily
    56 | May 15, 2012 2:40 pm

    Detroit nothing but a wasteland when doing the right thing gets you fired……

    Detroit groundskeeper fired after finding loaded gun, handing it to cops

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/15/detroit-groundskeeper-fired-after-finding-loaded-gun-handing-it-to-cops/?test=latestnews#ixzz1uxtff2mg


  56. citizen_q
    57 | May 15, 2012 2:43 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    Ok I messed that post up a bit.

    This

    The only help I want rendered to muslims is to help them kill each other.

    Should have appeared below the second quote from m. Apologies


  57. 58 | May 15, 2012 2:46 pm

    m wrote:

    Syria: Jihadists expel all families from Christian village
    And our elites (both parties, before Rodan has a duck) want to help these people??!!

    This is who the Democrats and Republicans want to invade Syria to help.


  58. Lily
    59 | May 15, 2012 2:50 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Not sure if all of them are still on board with
    al-Qaeda showing up with the freedom fighters. Since that news broke has there been any thing said still in favor of arming the protesters.
    /there is no good guy in this squabble. A bad guy and even worse bad guys wanting to topple the bad guy. We need to stay out of this.


  59. Speranza
    60 | May 15, 2012 2:50 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    m wrote:
    Syria: Jihadists expel all families from Christian village
    And our elites (both parties, before Rodan has a duck) want to help these people??!!

    This is who the Democrats and Republicans want to invade Syria to help.

    Let them (the Syrians) fight it out while we stand on the sidelines.


  60. Lily
    61 | May 15, 2012 2:52 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    m wrote:
    Syria: Jihadists expel all families from Christian village
    And our elites (both parties, before Rodan has a duck) want to help these people??!!

    This is who the Democrats and Republicans want to invade Syria to help.

    Let them (the Syrians) fight it out while we stand on the sidelines.

    Yep and by no means do we even give anyone any weapons either.


  61. Speranza
    62 | May 15, 2012 2:53 pm

    m wrote:

    Turkey suspects bird was Israeli agent
    AGAIN??!!
    lol

    These freaking people are sick, sick, sick -- and Turkey had 80 years of secularism too!


  62. Speranza
    63 | May 15, 2012 2:53 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Yep and by no means do we even give anyone any weapons either.

    Just enough ammo to fight it out and knock each other off.
    see Iraq v. Iran.


  63. 64 | May 15, 2012 2:54 pm

    m wrote:

    Syria: Jihadists expel all families from Christian village

    And our elites (both parties, before Rodan has a duck) want to help these people??!!

    Neither side in Syria is palatable; may they both choke on their own bile.


  64. Lily
    65 | May 15, 2012 2:54 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    m wrote:

    Turkey suspects bird was Israeli agent
    AGAIN??!!
    lol

    These freaking people are sick, sick, sick – and Turkey had 80 years of secularism too!

    They seem to revert real quick back to the old ways. Secularism does nothing to change them, just keeps them in check while secularism is there.


  65. 66 | May 15, 2012 2:58 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Just enough ammo to fight it out and knock each other off.
    see Iraq v. Iran.

    Wasn’t it Kissinger who observed on the Iran-Iraq war “too bad they both can’t lose”?


  66. Speranza
    67 | May 15, 2012 2:59 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Just enough ammo to fight it out and knock each other off.
    see Iraq v. Iran.

    Wasn’t it Kissinger who observed on the Iran-Iraq war “too bad they both can’t lose”?

    Correctamundo.


  67. 68 | May 15, 2012 2:59 pm

    @ Speranza:

    You can’t civilize the savages. They are savage by nature, and nothing will change that.


  68. Speranza
    69 | May 15, 2012 2:59 pm

    Lily wrote:

    They seem to revert real quick back to the old ways. Secularism does nothing to change them, just keeps them in check while secularism is there.

    Agreed.


  69. 70 | May 15, 2012 3:01 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Kind of like Nazi Germany versus Stalin’s USSR. FDR didn’t think so, though, and I don’t guess we’d have defeated the Nazis without the Russian’s help. At least until we built the atomic bomb. That might have calmed Hitler down a bit. Might not have. It is hard to say.


  70. 71 | May 15, 2012 3:05 pm

    @ Lily:

    Yes McCain dismissed the report.


  71. 72 | May 15, 2012 3:06 pm

    New Thread.


  72. citizen_q
    73 | May 15, 2012 3:07 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Let them (the Syrians) fight it out while we stand on the sidelines.

    Munching popcorn and cheering both sides to a loss.


  73. 74 | May 15, 2012 3:07 pm

    @ Lily:

    Not sure if all of them are still on board with
    al-Qaeda showing up with the freedom fighters

    I wrote about this 3 months ago! We are ahead of the curve.


  74. Guggi
    75 | May 15, 2012 3:09 pm

    Higher taxes on wealthy unite Democrats

    Even with signs of an economic recovery feeding optimism about President Obama’s reelection chances, congressional Democrats continue to run highly individual reelection campaigns independent of the president’s record and agenda.

    Except on the issue of higher taxes for the wealthy, where they appear solidly unified across the political spectrum.

    (…)

    Economic recovery ???


  75. citizen_q
    76 | May 15, 2012 3:09 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Yes McCain dismissed the report.

    For his and our own good, he needs to be convinced to retire. He is a pathetic laughing stock. It is painful watching the old fool.


  76. Lily
    77 | May 15, 2012 3:12 pm

    And obama will denounce this in….ah hell never…

    U.S. Army Soldier Brutally Beaten By Teens Who Would Look Like Obama’s Sons In South Tampa

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/15/u-s-army-soldier-brutally-beaten-by-teens-who-would-look-like-obamas-sons-in-south-tampa/


  77. Speranza
    78 | May 15, 2012 3:13 pm

    Lily wrote:

    And obama will denounce this in….ah hell never…
    U.S. Army Soldier Brutally Beaten By Teens Who Would Look Like Obama’s Sons In South Tampa
    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/15/u-s-army-soldier-brutally-beaten-by-teens-who-would-look-like-obamas-sons-in-south-tampa/

    When hell freezes over.


  78. Lily
    79 | May 15, 2012 3:13 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Not sure if all of them are still on board with
    al-Qaeda showing up with the freedom fighters

    I wrote about this 3 months ago! We are ahead of the curve.

    It was plain to see the freedom fighters are worse than the other bad guys. Washington is stuck on stupid. Bending over backwards not to offend anyone who practices Islam.


  79. Speranza
    80 | May 15, 2012 3:14 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    For his and our own good, he needs to be convinced to retire. He is a pathetic laughing stock. It is painful watching the old fool.

    He is an embarrassment to himself and to the Republican Party with his pathetic campaign of four years ago.


  80. Lily
    81 | May 15, 2012 3:15 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Yes McCain dismissed the report.

    Good grief! Really? What a damn old dolt. I’m sorry but he needs to retire and soon.


  81. Speranza
    82 | May 15, 2012 3:15 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    You can’t civilize the savages. They are savage by nature, and nothing will change that.

    Yes and Turkey is example number 1.


  82. citizen_q
    83 | May 15, 2012 3:20 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    You can’t civilize the savages. They are savage by nature, and nothing will change that.

    Yes and Turkey is example number 1.

    There are at least 56 others; see oic member states.


  83. 84 | May 15, 2012 3:22 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:

    You can’t civilize the savages. They are savage by nature, and nothing will change that.

    There’s more proof of bigfoot than a stable Islamic republic; at least there are people who have claimed to have seen bigfoot.


  84. Bob in Breckenridge
    85 | May 15, 2012 3:36 pm

    RIX wrote:

    As the above quote illustrates, she is not n intellectual

    The same can be said of 99.9% of the swine in Hollywood. The amazing thing they’re all so narcissistic they actually believe their fame and fortune automatically makes them experts on everything, like who should be President. That right there proves how truly ignorant the vast majority of them are. Clueless dolts, all.


  85. Speranza
    86 | May 15, 2012 4:38 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    There’s more proof of bigfoot than a stable Islamic republic; at least there are people who have claimed to have seen bigfoot.

    An Islamic fundamentalist regime is unreformable, it can only be overthrown.


  86. Speranza
    87 | May 15, 2012 4:40 pm

    RIX wrote:

    As the above quote illustrates, she (Linda Ronstadt)is not an intellectual

    Not by a looooong shot!


  87. DaveFrancis
    88 | May 15, 2012 5:33 pm

    IS YOUR STATE NEXT?

    California has been hit a hard financial blow, because of its Liberal state capitol is genuflecting to the illegal alien invasion, carrying a cost of $16 billion dollars with no end in sight. California insists more money from taxes, as they are in serious trouble with their welfare issues, with Billions of dollars going towards illegal alien schooling, health care and the population of prison inmates. Immigration is the primary reason California has become the least-educated state considered in terms of the share of workers with less than a high school education. The state ranked 35th in terms of the share of its 19-year-olds who have graduated high school. The large share of California adults who have very little education are likely to necessitate welfare services and making it challenging for the state to create sufficient tax revenue, to encompass the demands for services made by its large unskilled population. THE NATIONAL PRESS REMAINS SILENT ABOUT THE ILLEGAL ALIEN WELFARE PROBLEM THAT IS DRAINING PART OF CALIFORNIA’S 16 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT.

    If no other law is passed by the Government, mandatory (E-verify H.R. 2885) needs to be the policy of this country? If E-Verify is enacted the mass exodus of millions of foreign nationals will begin, as they will be unable to find a job and it will discourage the annual influx of more foreigners into the country. Both political parties have done nothing about this unlawful epidemic, as the Democrats expect blocs of minority voters-Whether a citizen or not makes no difference to them. Republicans just want to exploit the cheap labor for their big corporate campaign contributors. POLITICS IS ABOUT MONEY, INFLUENCE AND POWER—NOTHING MORE? ITS JUST PLAIN UNADULTERATED GREED? Our country is so divided; brain washed by the left and illegal immigration has caused this massive spreading abyss. The agendas are so irreparable that the government has turned on its own people, as we have seen with Arizona, Alabama, Georgia, Utah, South Carolina and others waiting for court outcomes. Our nation has turned into a welfare state for foreign countries own populace.

    Each year, according to the Edwin Rubenstein report, illegal aliens cost American taxpayers $346 billion across 15 federal agencies. (Source: http://www.TheSocialContract.com) That includes breakfasts and lunches for their children; it includes English as a Second Language. It includes free education from K-12. It means free and unconstrained medical care paid for by your billfold or purse. It means you pay for the insurance rates by unlicensed drivers. Illegal migrants and immigrants are worked at a third the wages and frequently, under the table. Not only do our kids not have jobs; you’re paying taxes for illegal aliens who are not paying taxes.

    Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich With the $550 million for public safety and nearly $500 million for healthcare, the total cost for illegal immigrants to County taxpayers exceeds $1.6 billion dollars a year, this doesn’t cover the billions in education costs; and doesn’t include the billions more in education. California, the epitome of a Sanctuary state will be the leader as millions of illegal aliens fleeing aliens arrive there, from less benevolent states? Unfortunately left wing Governor Jerry (moonbeam) Brown is now preaching more taxes, cuts in benefits—when removing the millions of foreign national could save the state. Not state, not county but a federal law that will stop this theft of American jobs. Unscrupulous employers need to be held accountable and harshly find and sentenced to prison. Rather than go into the details about the taxpayers ripped off, judge for yourself by going to NumbersUSA and American Patrol websites.

    Also the most costly payout from taxpayers is the children that are slipped in by visitors from other countries or across our poorly enforced fence at the border that are eligible to become citizens, which promotes massive chain migration and enables parents to settle here. Over 400 thousand are estimated to take advantage of this misinterpreted law, again costing genuine Americans welfare programs. The birthright citizenship law must be amended, so only children with one citizen parent allows this right. Don’t remain blind to the profiteers in Washington and demand they enforce immigration laws. Because of this fiasco of our Immigration laws business owners are directly responsible for the growing amount of $113 Billion dollars in public welfare programs.

    Another piece of mind boggling piece of information that Americans pay $27 billion providing forms, ballots, interpreters and brochures for 149 languages yearly.

    One out of two adult African-Americans in New York are jobless. African-American children’s impoverishment has grown by 50 % since 1999. Parents of these kids cannot find a job; large numbers taken by foreigners as cheaper labor.

    American females have to put their children in daycare just to make ends meet. Schools are so cramped in states with illegal foreign children; nobody is learning hardly anything anymore as teachers are forced to give more attention to non English speakers. American born and legal resident kids cannot get temporary work anymore, as they have been displaced by cheap illegal labor.

    According to the Heritage Foundation if Democrats get their way, we would be adding a further 2.6 Trillion dollars to the already accelerating 15.6 Trillion dollars if an amnesty is imposed. Both political parties are responsible for this parasitic invasion, which is catering to any of the 20 million plus illegal aliens already here. Even while they are stealing us blind of our own impoverished, our own sick and homeless, they are stealing another $4.2 billion dollars from taxpayers through the incompetence of the IRS, who would audit American for exaggerating on the business car mileage. Even illogical to this is that illegal aliens are allowed to wire out of America annually over $40 billion dollars to foreign banks not being absorbed back into the economy. Our country has been neglected for years, occupied by illegal immigrants and hordes of criminals. Mitt Romney better not turn on the massive TEA PARTY on this issue, or they will realize he cannot be trusted. Americans haven’t learned that you cannot get something for nothing. Half of this country’s population, live off the other half’s income and that is why our social safety nets are failing. The last realistic chance we have of getting out of our financial mess is to remove the old members of Congress and state capitals, with Tea Party leaders. It happened in Indiana when Senator Richard Lugar was retired, replaced by a Tea Party lawmaker.


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