What else can you expect when you bring back a failed retread to fix problems that he himself was largely responsible for?
As one poster has written:
It’s hard to believe that California was once “Reagan Country”. Governor Moonbeam is back and we are in a world of hurt.
by William McGurn
In his January 2011 inaugural address, California Gov. Jerry Brown declared it a “time to honestly assess our financial condition and make the tough choices.” Plainly the choices weren’t tough enough: Mr. Brown has just announced that he faces a state budget deficit of $16 billion—nearly twice the $9.2 billion he predicted in January. In Sacramento Monday, he coupled a new round of spending cuts with a call for some hefty new tax hikes.
In his own inaugural address back in January 2010, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie also spoke of making tough choices for the people of his state. For his first full budget, Mr. Christie faced a deficit of $10.7 billion—one-third of projected revenues. Not only did Mr. Christie close that deficit without raising taxes, he is now plumping for a 10% across-the-board tax cut.
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On the “millionaire’s” tax, Mr. Brown says that California desperately needs to approve one if the state is to recover. The one on California’s November ballot kicks in at income of $250,000 and would raise the top rate to 13.3% from 10.3% on incomes above $1 million. Again in sharp contrast, when New Jersey Democrats attempted to embarrass Mr. Christie by sending a millionaire’s tax to his desk, he called their bluff and promptly vetoed it.On public-employee unions, Mr. Brown can talk a good game—at Monday’s press conference, he announced a 5% pay cut for state workers, and he has proposed pension reform. Yet for all his pull with unions (the last time he was governor, he gave California’s public-sector unions collective-bargaining rights), Gov. Brown, a Democrat, has not been able to accomplish what Republican Gov. Christie has: persuade a Democratic legislature to require government workers to kick in more for their health care and pensions.
Now, no one will confuse New Jersey with free-market Hong Kong. Still, because the challenges facing the Golden and Garden States are so similar, the different paths taken by their respective governors are all the more striking. And these two men are by no means alone.
Our states today are conducting a profound and contentious rethink about the right level of taxes, spending and government. Most obvious is the battle for Wisconsin. There Republican Gov. Scott Walker finds himself pitted against public-sector unions that successfully forced a recall election for June 5 after the legislature adopted the governor’s package of labor reforms last spring.
Amid the turmoil—Democratic legislators fled the state to prevent a vote, while union-backed protesters occupied the Capitol—Mr. Walker looked weakened. Now he has taken the lead in polls. More than that, voters have taken the lesson: A recent Marquette University Law School poll showed only 12% of Wisconsin voters listing “restoring collective bargaining rights for public employees” as their priority.
Indeed, the American Midwest today is home to some of the biggest experiments in government. Republicans now hold both the governorships and the legislatures in Michigan, Indiana and Ohio, and in Wisconsin they control all but the Senate. In each they are pushing for smaller, more accountable government. The outlier is Illinois, where Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn and his Democratic legislature pushed through a tax increase on their heavily indebted state.
Now ask yourself this. Can anyone look at Illinois and say to himself: I have seen the future and it works?
Indiana’s Mitch Daniels, a Republican, is probably the only governor who can truly claim to have turned around a failing state. That may change if we get eight years of Mr. Christie in New Jersey. Louisiana’s Bobby Jindal, also a Republican, may be another challenger for the title, having just succeeded in pushing through arguably the most far-reaching reform of any state public-school system in America.
Hard economic times bring their own lessons. Though few have been spared the ravages of the last recession and the sluggish recovery, those in states where taxes are light, government lives within its means, and the climate is friendly to investment have learned the value of the arrangement they have. They are not likely to give it up.
Meanwhile, leaders in some struggling states have taken notice. They know the road to fiscal hell is paved with progressive intentions. The question regarding the sensible ones is whether they have the will and wherewithal to impose the reforms they know their states need on the interest groups whose political and economic clout is so closely tied with the public purse.
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Read the rest – Jerry Brown v. Chris Christie
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Governor Moonbeam is the very definition of a washed up politician.
Christie needs to stay in NJ. he’s good there but suck for the whole country.
@ Speranza:
He’s the Charles Johnson of politics.
Rodan wrote:
He is too abrasive for the rest of the nation but is good for New Jersey.
Speranza wrote:
“Washed Up”
…HA! especially after he was caught on Malibu Beach in delicto with Linda Ronstadt!Rodan wrote:
Charles Johnson is rapidly descending into Dennis Kucinich territory.
@ Speranza:
Plus he has a soft spot for the Muslim Brotherhood. Its bad enough the elites of the GOP and the Democrats are in the tank for the Muslim Brotherhood. Christie would support their agenda at a national level.
@ Speranza:
he makes Alex Jones look sane.
Linda Ronstadt has put on a few pounds over the years.
Rodan wrote:
It does not hurt New Jersey but would play terrible on the national stage.
Speranza wrote:
If by, to abrasive you mean, loves him some Sharia Law and hates him some Second Amendment, then yea, to abrasive.
Rodan wrote:
Alex Jones needs to be committed.
@ doriangrey:
Nope I was referring to his speaking style and his weight.
@ doriangrey:
Christie is a Jihadi tool.
Speranza wrote:
Give her another 20 years and she’ll look just like Helen Thomas.
@ Speranza:
Well his Pro-Islamic stance is just as bad as his style.
Rodan wrote:
Sadly you are right. But like they say about Taxacheuttes’s Scott Brown, he’s the best you can get in New Jersey.
doriangrey wrote:
Linda Ronstadt was once a very attractive gal, Helen Thomas I doubt ever was.
@ doriangrey:
If he can rein in the unions of New Jersey he is worth his weight in gold -- snark intended.
Speranza wrote:
Reigning in the Unions is good, destroying the Second Amendment is bad, the good in this case does not outweigh the bad.
@ doriangrey:
Enabling foreign enemies is treasonous. Christie should never be considered for a national level. Let him do the MB’s bidding there.
doriangrey wrote:
And yet another Punishment Batallion in Download City!
Macker wrote:
BWAHAHAH…..
I saw her in concert as a yoot & she was hot.
As the above quote illustrates, she is not an intellectual
Rodan wrote:
Hmmm, I don’t actually dislike New Jersey, so I’m not sure New Jersey deserve that.
RIX wrote:
OK, I stand corrected, it won’t take another 20 years for her to look just like Helen Thomas, another 10 tops.
RIX wrote:
I guess their money they put in her coffers is fine with her though.
Speranza wrote:
Douchebag is just so inadequate a term when describing people like her.
doriangrey wrote:
The unions are killing NJ. I am not sure if most New Jerseyans or Northeasterners care one way or the other about guns. It is not a major issue there. No governor or mayor from that area is going to tell its citizens to arm up.
Speranza wrote:
The Second Amendment is the only guarantee in the constitution that ensures the entire rest of the Constitution is respected. If the New Jerseyans or Northeasterners don’t understand that, then they need some serious remedial Constitutional education.
And if, as you suggest they do not understand it, then the blame for them not understanding it falls squarely on the shoulders of those politicians who did not protect the interests of those citizens from the machinations of various progressive/Marxist’s who indoctrinated them into a false understanding of what the Second Amendment was included in the United States Constitution for.
The legal system as a saying, which applies in this case. Ignorance (or stupidity) is no excuse.
@ doriangrey:
Unfortunate, but she is an airhead.
@ Speranza:
I am sure that she considers Republican & Christian
money as legal tender.
She made this comment after a Las Vegas apperance.
Yup, could have been some Republicans.
RIX wrote:
Yeah she injected left-wing politics into her concert and the people were pissed off at that. She tends to think that people who were her fans at the peak of her career were all Democrats.
Speranza wrote:
Or perhaps they never grew up?
Don’t people tend towards a more conservative outlook as they mature?
@ citizen_q:
I never grew up and I’m so conservative the GOP elites look insane
@ Speranza:
She is silly , but she can sing.
RIX wrote:
She isn’t silly, her views are ugly and bigoted, their is nothing silly about bigotry.
@ doriangrey:
Exactly! The Left get away with being bigoted Christopbobes and haters. They really shouldn’t. If you listen to them (especially someone like Bill Maher), replace the Christians and Republicans with blacks (and Jews, though most of these people are anti-Semitic. They just cloak that as being “anti-Zionist”, but we know what they really mean) and they sound like members of the Ku Klux Klan. There is nothing merely silly about that.
RIX wrote:
She was big in the 1970′s -- had a great voice but faded in the decades afterwards.
citizen_q wrote:
When you live in a cocoon it is different.
Alarm Grows Among Dems About Obama’s Chances
I think this SOB just might implode before our eyes. Romney needs to stay on offense, on message and play his strong suit.
@ MacDuff:
Economy and jobs, jobs and the Econommy! Are you better off than you were four years ago? Obama borrowed a trillion dollars from China and spent it on a stimulus. What did that buy us?
@ Iron Fist:
Where did the money go and end up? I want to see how much was effectively laundered to his supporters, or found its way back to the demoncraps. I bet if you look hard enough you will find the largest heist of public funds in history.
@ citizen_q:
Nancy Pelosis husband comes to mind.
citizen_q wrote:
You don’t even have to look very hard, in fact, you have to try mighty damned hard to not see it.
@ citizen_q:
I have no doubt that you are correct. It was the biggest fraud in all of history. And think what could have been bought with that money. You could have added an entire carrier battle group to our defense posture, created thoushands of jobs, and had money left over. A trillion dollars is an unreal sum of money. And it is gone, as gone as if he’d blown it on coke and whores, but the coke and whores would have stimulated the economy more than this rip-off did.
citizen_q wrote:
I’m thinking this very subject will be a substantial issue in the campaign, along with the liberal bobble heads that have chanted “we should have spent more”. I’m not surprised Dems are already starting to drop Obama like a bad habit, but they’ll be circling the drain along with him.
@ MacDuff:
I’m hoping Romney has enough coat-tails to take the Senate with a solid majority of real Republicans. Then we’ll see if there really is a difference between the parties.
Turkey suspects bird was Israeli agent
AGAIN??!!
lol
Syria: Jihadists expel all families from Christian village
And our elites (both parties, before Rodan has a duck) want to help these people??!!
MacDuff wrote:
Yup, the Dem’s hitched their handbasket to Obama without first asking “Why are we riding in a handbasket and why are we surrounded by all these dark sulfurous flames?”
doriangrey wrote:
doriangrey wrote:
Wouldn’t Solyandra and Light-Squared be right up there?
Oh wait and the donation to William Ayers just a week or so ago?
Wait again what about Fast and Furious?
Dear me again what about him using taxpayers money on fund raising trips?
Need I forget what about all the taxpayers money wasted on Green “shovel ready” jobs that never appeared?
m wrote:
When people become so confident that they’ll be defended, no matter what, they begin to do the indefensible and ultimately, that is their undoing. That goes for the Mooz as well as the Dems.
m wrote:
Wasn’t it saudi arabia that captured the mossad vulture?
Saudi Arabia ‘detains’ Israeli vulture for spying
The only help I want rendered to muslims is to help them kill each other.
The article even mentions the egyptian claim of mosssad sharks.
There is no more cancerous mental and spiritual malady than islam.
m wrote:
Detroit nothing but a wasteland when doing the right thing gets you fired……
Detroit groundskeeper fired after finding loaded gun, handing it to cops
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/15/detroit-groundskeeper-fired-after-finding-loaded-gun-handing-it-to-cops/?test=latestnews#ixzz1uxtff2mg
@ citizen_q:
Ok I messed that post up a bit.
This
Should have appeared below the second quote from m. Apologies
m wrote:
This is who the Democrats and Republicans want to invade Syria to help.
@ Rodan:
Not sure if all of them are still on board with
al-Qaeda showing up with the freedom fighters. Since that news broke has there been any thing said still in favor of arming the protesters.
/there is no good guy in this squabble. A bad guy and even worse bad guys wanting to topple the bad guy. We need to stay out of this.
Rodan wrote:
Let them (the Syrians) fight it out while we stand on the sidelines.
Speranza wrote:
Yep and by no means do we even give anyone any weapons either.
m wrote:
These freaking people are sick, sick, sick -- and Turkey had 80 years of secularism too!
Lily wrote:
Just enough ammo to fight it out and knock each other off.
see Iraq v. Iran.
m wrote:
Neither side in Syria is palatable; may they both choke on their own bile.
Speranza wrote:
They seem to revert real quick back to the old ways. Secularism does nothing to change them, just keeps them in check while secularism is there.
Speranza wrote:
Wasn’t it Kissinger who observed on the Iran-Iraq war “too bad they both can’t lose”?
MacDuff wrote:
Correctamundo.
@ Speranza:
You can’t civilize the savages. They are savage by nature, and nothing will change that.
Lily wrote:
Agreed.
@ MacDuff:
Kind of like Nazi Germany versus Stalin’s USSR. FDR didn’t think so, though, and I don’t guess we’d have defeated the Nazis without the Russian’s help. At least until we built the atomic bomb. That might have calmed Hitler down a bit. Might not have. It is hard to say.
@ Lily:
Yes McCain dismissed the report.
New Thread.
Speranza wrote:
Munching popcorn and cheering both sides to a loss.
@ Lily:
I wrote about this 3 months ago! We are ahead of the curve.
Economic recovery ???
Rodan wrote:
For his and our own good, he needs to be convinced to retire. He is a pathetic laughing stock. It is painful watching the old fool.
And obama will denounce this in….ah hell never…
U.S. Army Soldier Brutally Beaten By Teens Who Would Look Like Obama’s Sons In South Tampa
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/15/u-s-army-soldier-brutally-beaten-by-teens-who-would-look-like-obamas-sons-in-south-tampa/
Lily wrote:
When hell freezes over.
Rodan wrote:
It was plain to see the freedom fighters are worse than the other bad guys. Washington is stuck on stupid. Bending over backwards not to offend anyone who practices Islam.
citizen_q wrote:
He is an embarrassment to himself and to the Republican Party with his pathetic campaign of four years ago.
Rodan wrote:
Good grief! Really? What a damn old dolt. I’m sorry but he needs to retire and soon.
Iron Fist wrote:
Yes and Turkey is example number 1.
Speranza wrote:
There are at least 56 others; see oic member states.
Iron Fist wrote:
There’s more proof of bigfoot than a stable Islamic republic; at least there are people who have claimed to have seen bigfoot.
RIX wrote:
The same can be said of 99.9% of the swine in Hollywood. The amazing thing they’re all so narcissistic they actually believe their fame and fortune automatically makes them experts on everything, like who should be President. That right there proves how truly ignorant the vast majority of them are. Clueless dolts, all.
MacDuff wrote:
An Islamic fundamentalist regime is unreformable, it can only be overthrown.
RIX wrote:
Not by a looooong shot!
IS YOUR STATE NEXT?
California has been hit a hard financial blow, because of its Liberal state capitol is genuflecting to the illegal alien invasion, carrying a cost of $16 billion dollars with no end in sight. California insists more money from taxes, as they are in serious trouble with their welfare issues, with Billions of dollars going towards illegal alien schooling, health care and the population of prison inmates. Immigration is the primary reason California has become the least-educated state considered in terms of the share of workers with less than a high school education. The state ranked 35th in terms of the share of its 19-year-olds who have graduated high school. The large share of California adults who have very little education are likely to necessitate welfare services and making it challenging for the state to create sufficient tax revenue, to encompass the demands for services made by its large unskilled population. THE NATIONAL PRESS REMAINS SILENT ABOUT THE ILLEGAL ALIEN WELFARE PROBLEM THAT IS DRAINING PART OF CALIFORNIA’S 16 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT.
If no other law is passed by the Government, mandatory (E-verify H.R. 2885) needs to be the policy of this country? If E-Verify is enacted the mass exodus of millions of foreign nationals will begin, as they will be unable to find a job and it will discourage the annual influx of more foreigners into the country. Both political parties have done nothing about this unlawful epidemic, as the Democrats expect blocs of minority voters-Whether a citizen or not makes no difference to them. Republicans just want to exploit the cheap labor for their big corporate campaign contributors. POLITICS IS ABOUT MONEY, INFLUENCE AND POWER—NOTHING MORE? ITS JUST PLAIN UNADULTERATED GREED? Our country is so divided; brain washed by the left and illegal immigration has caused this massive spreading abyss. The agendas are so irreparable that the government has turned on its own people, as we have seen with Arizona, Alabama, Georgia, Utah, South Carolina and others waiting for court outcomes. Our nation has turned into a welfare state for foreign countries own populace.
Each year, according to the Edwin Rubenstein report, illegal aliens cost American taxpayers $346 billion across 15 federal agencies. (Source: http://www.TheSocialContract.com) That includes breakfasts and lunches for their children; it includes English as a Second Language. It includes free education from K-12. It means free and unconstrained medical care paid for by your billfold or purse. It means you pay for the insurance rates by unlicensed drivers. Illegal migrants and immigrants are worked at a third the wages and frequently, under the table. Not only do our kids not have jobs; you’re paying taxes for illegal aliens who are not paying taxes.
Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich With the $550 million for public safety and nearly $500 million for healthcare, the total cost for illegal immigrants to County taxpayers exceeds $1.6 billion dollars a year, this doesn’t cover the billions in education costs; and doesn’t include the billions more in education. California, the epitome of a Sanctuary state will be the leader as millions of illegal aliens fleeing aliens arrive there, from less benevolent states? Unfortunately left wing Governor Jerry (moonbeam) Brown is now preaching more taxes, cuts in benefits—when removing the millions of foreign national could save the state. Not state, not county but a federal law that will stop this theft of American jobs. Unscrupulous employers need to be held accountable and harshly find and sentenced to prison. Rather than go into the details about the taxpayers ripped off, judge for yourself by going to NumbersUSA and American Patrol websites.
Also the most costly payout from taxpayers is the children that are slipped in by visitors from other countries or across our poorly enforced fence at the border that are eligible to become citizens, which promotes massive chain migration and enables parents to settle here. Over 400 thousand are estimated to take advantage of this misinterpreted law, again costing genuine Americans welfare programs. The birthright citizenship law must be amended, so only children with one citizen parent allows this right. Don’t remain blind to the profiteers in Washington and demand they enforce immigration laws. Because of this fiasco of our Immigration laws business owners are directly responsible for the growing amount of $113 Billion dollars in public welfare programs.
Another piece of mind boggling piece of information that Americans pay $27 billion providing forms, ballots, interpreters and brochures for 149 languages yearly.
One out of two adult African-Americans in New York are jobless. African-American children’s impoverishment has grown by 50 % since 1999. Parents of these kids cannot find a job; large numbers taken by foreigners as cheaper labor.
American females have to put their children in daycare just to make ends meet. Schools are so cramped in states with illegal foreign children; nobody is learning hardly anything anymore as teachers are forced to give more attention to non English speakers. American born and legal resident kids cannot get temporary work anymore, as they have been displaced by cheap illegal labor.
According to the Heritage Foundation if Democrats get their way, we would be adding a further 2.6 Trillion dollars to the already accelerating 15.6 Trillion dollars if an amnesty is imposed. Both political parties are responsible for this parasitic invasion, which is catering to any of the 20 million plus illegal aliens already here. Even while they are stealing us blind of our own impoverished, our own sick and homeless, they are stealing another $4.2 billion dollars from taxpayers through the incompetence of the IRS, who would audit American for exaggerating on the business car mileage. Even illogical to this is that illegal aliens are allowed to wire out of America annually over $40 billion dollars to foreign banks not being absorbed back into the economy. Our country has been neglected for years, occupied by illegal immigrants and hordes of criminals. Mitt Romney better not turn on the massive TEA PARTY on this issue, or they will realize he cannot be trusted. Americans haven’t learned that you cannot get something for nothing. Half of this country’s population, live off the other half’s income and that is why our social safety nets are failing. The last realistic chance we have of getting out of our financial mess is to remove the old members of Congress and state capitals, with Tea Party leaders. It happened in Indiana when Senator Richard Lugar was retired, replaced by a Tea Party lawmaker.