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Lord Christopher Monckton On Agenda 21

by Flyovercountry ( 200 Comments › )
Filed under Communism, Fascism, Progressives, Tranzis at May 16th, 2012 - 3:00 pm

Every Democrat talking point from 1992 on has been in complete lock step with Agenda 21 as proposed by the U.N. Agenda 21 is nothing more than world wide Marxism being implemented under the guise of Environmental Protection. It’s all there, the Model Cities Program, relinquishing our sovereignty to a world government, global wealth redistribution schemes, complete loss of our ability to make our own decisions that concern our daily living right down to what kind of light bulbs we can use in our homes. All of it of course is done under the assumption that there is such a thing as man made global warming.

The world of Marxist philosophy had a shock in 1991, which is the year that the Soviet Union, their home planet, collapsed. With their wold in tatters, they realized that nobody in their right mind would sign onto this form of governance and economic model willingly. Who in their right mind would sign up for mass starvation, global poverty, and a complete loss of freedom. The Marxists needed to find a way to inflict themselves upon us in small doses, and they needed to do it in such a way as to hide the truth of what they were doing. This by the way comes straight out of Saull Alinsky’s book, “Rules For Radicals.”

Here is a quote from the Agenda 21 Treaty:

Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever experienced – a major shift in the priorities of both governments and individuals and an unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources. This shift will demand that a concern for the environmental consequences of every human action to be integrated into individual and collective decision-making at every level.

Any time you hear Congress Critters or Presidential candidates utter the phrase, “we need to send subtle signals through the markets to get people to change their behavior,” hold onto your wallets and your firearms, you are about to be screwed. Soft laws are those micro changes being implemented to force you to see the wisdom of accepting the loss of those very freedoms that we not only hold so dear, but are actually the very foundation upon which every American success has been built. Our society did not become great through some top down planning, nor did we steal that greatness from some other society. It was the basic freedoms which our founders saw fit to fight for, which in fact were bestowed upon us by our creator. Our greatness derives from not being constrained by a ruling class of elites who would seek to implement a sustainability test upon our activities and subject us to this perverse definition of fairness.

Fairness for those who love their lives free is a consistency in the rules by which we all live, and not a leveling off of the results independent of those rules. The reason that the Sudan does not enjoy the life expectancy doubling luxury known as refrigeration is not that we here in the United States some how stole it from them. The reason is that when you hack off the heads of Millions of your own citizens, chances are that one of them was the innovator who would have brought refrigeration to your society. Freedom and constraint work in pretty much the same manner. The basic differences of course are that the leftists do not want that type of innovation and creation of wealth, as it severely impedes upon their ability to control the population at large.

Cross Posted at Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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  1. 1 | May 16, 2012 3:22 pm

    QE3 on its way!


  2. Guggi
    2 | May 16, 2012 3:24 pm

    Every Democrat talking point from 1992 on has been in complete lock step with Agenda 21 as proposed by the U.N. Agenda 21 is nothing more than world wide Marxism being implemented under the guise of Environmental Protection. It’s all there, the Model Cities Program, relinquishing our sovereignty to a world government, global wealth redistribution schemes, complete loss of our ability to make our own decisions that concern our daily living right down to what kind of light bulbs we can use in our homes. All of it of course is done under the assumption that there is such a thing as man made global warming.

    But neither China nor India nor the G77 buy it any longer. They are all fed up. Chin a has announced that she will stop building wind power plants and change to shale gas, India demands that organizations like the UN and their studies are no longer part of decision making and the G77 countries call the Kyoto Protocoll some kind of new imperialism which hinders them to develop.


  3. 3 | May 16, 2012 3:27 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Thanks Rodan! it’s been almost 72 hours since I was last bothered by my Ulcer. This should help alleviate any thoughts I had about remission or actual cure. I have my 3 full bottles of Tums in my desk, and a prescription of Tagamet ready to go.


  4. 4 | May 16, 2012 3:28 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Sorry about that!


  5. Lily
    5 | May 16, 2012 3:28 pm

    It is a complete fraud. Most Americans don’t even know what Agenda 21 is or even know it is out there. EVERY SINGLE PERSON. That should scare people right there. I personally do not want to be told what light bulb to buy or to be told by the government what to buy at all.
    Scary crap this is.


  6. 6 | May 16, 2012 3:28 pm

    @ Guggi:

    All of which is a moot point when discussing the Dems and their talking points. Apparently, they seem to feel as though the points mentioned in Agenda 21 should apply exclusively to the U.S. only.


  7. 7 | May 16, 2012 3:31 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    They think we are the problem.


  8. Lily
    8 | May 16, 2012 3:31 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    Agenda 21 is all about the earth and the animals. Forget about the human beings they are just units. But the earth and animals matter so much more than a human life.


  9. Lily
    9 | May 16, 2012 3:33 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Flyovercountry:

    They think we are the problem.

    Isn’t it getting a tired and worn out meme that the United States is the cause of all the earths problems? One country is to blame for everything. Insanity at its best to say the least.


  10. 10 | May 16, 2012 3:33 pm

    @ Guggi:

    But Germany is playing along:

    Germany’s power grid is in trouble, and federal regulators are warning something must be done before the onset of winter’s usual skyrocketing energy demands. They say the current grid is unable to support the forced transition from nuclear to government-mandated “renewable” energies and must be expanded quickly to avoid blackouts.

    “The situation of the power grid in the Winter 2011/12 was very tense,” recounted a press release announcing publication of the annual report from the Federal Network Agency (FNA), Germany’s energy regulating bureau. But the tension didn’t surprise regulators.

    Last August they recommended precautionary measures in light of the nuclear power station shutdowns forced by Germany’s nuclear energy exit bill. The legislation, passed in July in a knee-jerk reaction to Japan’s Fukushima nuclear power plant disaster, wiped out 40 percent of German nuclear capacity. This, along with the unpredictability of wind and solar power and February’s unexpected gas supply shortage, forced the country to lean heavily on emergency reserves and imports from Austria.

    Of course, if you want Green Power, nuclear is the way to go. If the Leftists were really concerned about the Global Warming Hoax instead of trying to reduce the First World to Third World conditions, they’d be pushing for the nuclearization of all power grids, not doing the opposite and closing down nuclear power.


  11. 11 | May 16, 2012 3:34 pm

    Agenda 21 is what the face of Treason looks like, and it’s why the solution is still Stout Hemp Rope and Lampposts. Time for the Marxist’s to occupy the Lamppost’s…


  12. Guggi
    12 | May 16, 2012 3:35 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    All of which is a moot point when discussing the Dems and their talking points. Apparently, they seem to feel as though the points mentioned in Agenda 21 should apply exclusively to the U.S. only.

    The EU is calling for a third industrial revolution but this time a “green” one. Wind power should be one corner stone of this “revolution” but the problem is:

    German Banks Banned From Financing Offshore Windfarms

    Next bad news for the German Federal Government: Stricter regulations of the financial markets are endangering the green energy transition. The knockout blow for the financing of offshore wind farms is the so-called matching maturities rule which was aggravated to stabilize the financial markets. “Offshore wind farms cannot be financed by anyone. We have just been banned from doing this,” said Commerzbank board member Markus Beumer.

    (source: Wirtschaftswoche)


  13. RIX
    13 | May 16, 2012 3:39 pm

    AGW, Climate Change or Climate Chaos is a hoax & being
    used to redistribute wealth from the West to the
    under developed world. Conveniently it is one more way
    to destroy the middle class.
    Pudits now openly decry economic inequality.
    Think about it, not unequal opportunity, but not
    equal results.
    Marxism is on the march comrades.


  14. Lily
    14 | May 16, 2012 3:39 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Agenda 21 is what the face of Treason looks like, and it’s why the solution is still Stout Hemp Rope and Lampposts. Time for the Marxist’s to occupy the Lamppost’s…

    Treason indeed. It is beyond the pale.


  15. Guggi
    15 | May 16, 2012 3:44 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Last winter Germany shifted her current fluctuation to Poland but Poland now says it will accept it no longer and for the missing power they used the reserves of Austria.


  16. Lily
    16 | May 16, 2012 3:44 pm

    @ RIX:

    Marxism is indeed on the march and the sad thing is many people do not even see it!
    Revisionist history is also being done. I glanced at a PBS special about the Great Famine in Hungary in the 1930′s ……they called it the greatest natural disasater and barely touched on Stalin’s policies at the time. There was nothing natural about that famine in the least bit.


  17. RIX
    17 | May 16, 2012 3:54 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Marxism is indeed on the march and the sad thing is many people do not even see it!
    Revisionist history is also being done. I glanced at a PBS special about the Great Famine in Hungary in the 1930′s ……they called it the greatest natural disasater and barely touched on Stalin’s policies at the time. There was nothing natural about that famine in the least bit.

    You really can’t understand the famine in Hungary without understanding the role of Stalin.
    Marxism is a pernicious & persistent ideology & it did not
    go away with the bust up of the Soviet Union.
    American liberals have always either denied or at least
    minimized Marxist influence.
    If Karl Marx were around today, the left would swear that
    he is not actually a Marxist. You know the name is just
    a coincidence.


  18. Lily
    18 | May 16, 2012 3:57 pm

    Unfreaking believable. Really? How low will they go?

    Obama Mega-Donor Bill Maher: Romney “Bullying” Worse Than Child Molestation…

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/16/obama-mega-donor-bill-maher-romney-bullying-worse-than-child-molestation/


  19. Guggi
    19 | May 16, 2012 3:59 pm

    RIX wrote:

    If Karl Marx were around today, the left would swear that
    he is not actually a Marxist.

    He himself was indeed no “Marxist” but a solid capitalist.


  20. Lily
    20 | May 16, 2012 4:01 pm

    @ RIX:

    It was a disagrace that program. Oh they touched on Stalin’s policies just a tad…but it was a natural disaster not a man-made one.
    Of course they wouldn’t call Karl Marx a Marxist because you know that would be pro-filing. ;)


  21. Lily
    21 | May 16, 2012 4:03 pm

    That is exactly what Agenda 21 would do too..would create famines. Why because you can’t farm this land because it is for the animals and wildlife.


  22. 22 | May 16, 2012 4:04 pm

    Sorry for the OT, but these look to be interesting reads:

    Uncovering Early Islam

    There is a strong case to be made that Islam is little more than a cheap, and particularly malevolent knockoff of Christianity and these just add to that case.


  23. Guggi
    23 | May 16, 2012 4:05 pm

    RIX wrote:

    You really can’t understand the famine in Hungary

    HUngary ?? Not Unkraine ?


  24. yenta-fada
    24 | May 16, 2012 4:06 pm

    The UN ‘right to food’ envoy, Olivier De Schutter, is on an 11 day mission to CANADA. That’s right folks. We be starvin’. The Conservative Cabinet Ministers have refused to meet with him. Mr. De Schutter sniffed, “Well, look, the tradition is that when I visit countries on official missions, I have meetings at the Cabinet level. I think this failure betrays, if you wish, a lack of understanding of what hunger is about”
    THESE UN PEOPLE ARE OVERPAID SELF-SERVING MONSTERS!


  25. Lily
    25 | May 16, 2012 4:09 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    You really can’t understand the famine in Hungary

    HUngary ?? Not Unkraine ?

    Excellent correction …. the Ukraine. My bad. Damn my brain needs an up-grade today.
    Thanks guggi for the correction. ;)


  26. Guggi
    26 | May 16, 2012 4:10 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    a lack of understanding of what hunger is about”

    How much does his “visit” cost ? Driving in a SUV or limousine with a driver, staying in the best hotels and eating in the best restaurants….


  27. Guggi
    27 | May 16, 2012 4:10 pm

    @ Lily:

    :-)


  28. Lily
    28 | May 16, 2012 4:12 pm

    @ Guggi:

    For some reason famine and hungry slipped up in there. ;)


  29. 29 | May 16, 2012 4:12 pm

    The UN’s goals are divergent from our own and have been since its founding. The “get the US out of the UN” campaign should be revived.


  30. RIX
    30 | May 16, 2012 4:14 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    You really can’t understand the famine in Hungary
    HUngary ?? Not Unkraine ?

    Hungary, Ukraine what’s the difference?/
    You are of course correct.


  31. 31 | May 16, 2012 4:15 pm

    Lily wrote:

    How low will they go?

    It’s only May….


  32. yenta-fada
    32 | May 16, 2012 4:19 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    a lack of understanding of what hunger is about”
    How much does his “visit” cost ? Driving in a SUV or limousine with a driver, staying in the best hotels and eating in the best restaurants….

    Exactly. Believe me, if we had a Liberal Federal Government at the moment, the Cabinet ministers would have met with him.
    The 2010 report by this UN thief said “countries “should encourage communal ownership systems instead of concentrating on the Western concept of property rights.” Also, the Universal right to food could necessitate the use of “redistributive programmes that may in turn result in restrictions on the other’s right to property.”

    The UN is pissed that Harper supports Israel.


  33. Guggi
    33 | May 16, 2012 4:19 pm

    Sorry for OT

    Obama warns Republicans over debt ceiling fight

    President Obama warned congressional leaders on Wednesday that he would not tolerate a replay of the bitter debt ceiling fight of last summer that led to the nation’s first ever credit-rating downgrade.


  34. 34 | May 16, 2012 4:21 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    I read the book. Islam seems to come from some Christian sect that rejected the Council of Nicaea. The Romans kicked that group out and that’s where Islam began its genesis.


  35. 35 | May 16, 2012 4:22 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Sorry for OT

    Obama warns Republicans over debt ceiling fight

    President Obama warned congressional leaders on Wednesday that he would not tolerate a replay of the bitter debt ceiling fight of last summer that led to the nation’s first ever credit-rating downgrade.

    What’s the word that comes to mind…….oh yeah, “bully”.


  36. Lily
    36 | May 16, 2012 4:23 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Don’t I know it. I’ll have to take frequent breaks so my head doesn’t explode and I’m not all that politically inclined….this year though to me is a make or break year for our country.. some people don’t see it ..but I do…
    Not only that by the freak who calls himself Maher..but this too…

    Letterman Breaks Out The Hope And Change Pom-Poms: Obama “Gunned Down” Bin Laden, “What More Do We Want Him To Do For Us, Honest To God?”…

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/16/letterman-breaks-out-the-hope-and-change-pom-poms-obama-gunned-down-bin-laden-what-more-do-we-want-him-to-do-for-us-honest-to-god/


  37. Da_Beerfreak
    37 | May 16, 2012 4:25 pm

    Forget about the stout hemp rope; too damn slow. :evil:
    It’s time to nuke that failed experiment (mis)named the United Nations. :twisted:


  38. Lily
    38 | May 16, 2012 4:25 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Guggi wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    You really can’t understand the famine in Hungary
    HUngary ?? Not Unkraine ?

    Hungary, Ukraine what’s the difference?/
    You are of course correct.

    I know…it was my bad and I should know better!!! ;)


  39. RIX
    39 | May 16, 2012 4:26 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    If you submitted the Islamic modelin a comprative
    relgion course as an iintellectual exercise, it would
    not go well.
    You would be accusewd of plagerizing Judaism &
    Christianity.
    Examples, the ban on eating pork mirrors Judaism,
    Ramadan is a knock off of Lent.


  40. Lily
    40 | May 16, 2012 4:27 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Guggi wrote:

    Sorry for OT

    Obama warns Republicans over debt ceiling fight

    President Obama warned congressional leaders on Wednesday that he would not tolerate a replay of the bitter debt ceiling fight of last summer that led to the nation’s first ever credit-rating downgrade.

    What’s the word that comes to mind…….oh yeah, “bully”.

    That is exactly what bho is a damn dangerous bully.


  41. RIX
    41 | May 16, 2012 4:28 pm

    Lily wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    Guggi wrote:
    RIX wrote:
    You really can’t understand the famine in Hungary
    HUngary ?? Not Unkraine ?
    Hungary, Ukraine what’s the difference?/
    You are of course correct.
    I know…it was my bad and I should know better!!!

    I went right along with it, so ain’t a ting mon!


  42. Lily
    42 | May 16, 2012 4:30 pm

    @ RIX:

    Their fasting is so wrong too. No water or food all day but gorge themselves in the evening. This is not fasting at all.
    With Lent you forgo big meals and eat little but do drink water. It doesn’t mean eat or drink nothing all day thing pig yourself out at night.


  43. 43 | May 16, 2012 4:30 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Forget about the stout hemp rope; too damn slow.
    It’s time to nuke that failed experiment (mis)named the United Nations.

    One could ignite a Jet-A fueled fire on the bottom floor in order to prove to Roseanne, once and for all, that fire can really melt steel. Insure that the delegates are in the building so they can examine the evidence firsthand.


  44. yenta-fada
    44 | May 16, 2012 4:31 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Sorry for OT
    Obama warns Republicans over debt ceiling fight
    President Obama warned congressional leaders on Wednesday that he would not tolerate a replay of the bitter debt ceiling fight of last summer that led to the nation’s first ever credit-rating downgrade.

    Yeah, it’s not the fault of the leadership that Ozero has yet to produce a budget during his ‘reign’./

    What kind of CEO doesn’t have a budget? One that wants the business to fail.


  45. Lily
    45 | May 16, 2012 4:31 pm

    @ RIX:

    :lol:
    We had the spirit of what went on though! ;)


  46. 46 | May 16, 2012 4:33 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    If you submitted the Islamic modelin a comprative
    relgion course as an iintellectual exercise, it would
    not go well.
    You would be accusewd of plagerizing Judaism &
    Christianity.
    Examples, the ban on eating pork mirrors Judaism,
    Ramadan is a knock off of Lent.

    Mohammad is like the Bernie Madoff of religion.


  47. yenta-fada
    47 | May 16, 2012 4:35 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    Forget about the stout hemp rope; too damn slow.
    It’s time to nuke that failed experiment (mis)named the United Nations.
    One could ignite a Jet-A fueled fire on the bottom floor in order to prove to Roseanne, once and for all, that fire can really melt steel. Insure that the delegates are in the building so they can examine the evidence firsthand.

    Somebody tell me why Ozero knows a lot more about the Kardashians than I do? Zero is an effin groupie of one. The Pop Culture Preezy.


  48. yenta-fada
    48 | May 16, 2012 4:36 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Their fasting is so wrong too. No water or food all day but gorge themselves in the evening. This is not fasting at all.
    With Lent you forgo big meals and eat little but do drink water. It doesn’t mean eat or drink nothing all day thing pig yourself out at night.

    Maybe it’s because a caravan only stops at night?


  49. yenta-fada
    49 | May 16, 2012 4:37 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    lol.


  50. 50 | May 16, 2012 4:38 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Somebody tell me why Ozero knows a lot more about the Kardashians than I do? Zero is an effin groupie of one. The Pop Culture Preezy.

    It does suggest a profound shallowness, doesn’t it? Perhaps his campaign is lifting strategy from “Survivor”….


  51. Guggi
    51 | May 16, 2012 4:39 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Yeah, it’s not the fault of the leadership that Ozero has yet to produce a budget during his ‘reign’./

    Who needs a stinking budget anyway ///////


  52. RIX
    52 | May 16, 2012 4:39 pm

    @ Lily:
    Yeah & think about this. Pious Muslim men go through
    life sexually frustrated. maybe a goat here & there
    but generally sexually repressed.
    Then Achmed blows himself up for the cause & goes to
    the big brothel in the sky!


  53. RIX
    53 | May 16, 2012 4:41 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Mohammad is like the Bernie Madoff of religion.

    Mohammad was one crazy fother mucker.


  54. Guggi
    54 | May 16, 2012 4:45 pm

    But whom does Aisha get in heaven when she blows herself up ? Her own husband !


  55. Lily
    55 | May 16, 2012 4:48 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Their fasting is so wrong too. No water or food all day but gorge themselves in the evening. This is not fasting at all.
    With Lent you forgo big meals and eat little but do drink water. It doesn’t mean eat or drink nothing all day thing pig yourself out at night.

    Maybe it’s because a caravan only stops at night?

    :lol:
    Really it is a perversion of fasting imho.


  56. RIX
    56 | May 16, 2012 4:48 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    But whom does Aisha get in heaven when she blows herself up ? Her own husband !

    She gets to celebrate her ninth birthday!


  57. Lily
    57 | May 16, 2012 4:50 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Yeah & think about this. Pious Muslim men go through
    life sexually frustrated. maybe a goat here & there
    but generally sexually repressed.
    Then Achmed blows himself up for the cause & goes to
    the big brothel in the sky!

    Well you have to remember most women in Islam, according to Islam are evil and most will go to hell.


  58. Lily
    58 | May 16, 2012 4:50 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    But whom does Aisha get in heaven when she blows herself up ? Her own husband !

    Nothing. She just gets to not go to hell apparently.


  59. Guggi
    59 | May 16, 2012 4:52 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Nothing. She just gets to not go to hell apparently.

    No, no she gets her own husband again.


  60. 60 | May 16, 2012 4:54 pm

    From Drudge:

    BOEHNER DEMANDS SPENDING CUTS OBAMA OFFERS HOAGIES

    Dude cracks me up sometimes.


  61. Lily
    62 | May 16, 2012 4:56 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    Nothing. She just gets to not go to hell apparently.

    No, no she gets her own husband again.

    Then hell it is for her. Good grief! ;)


  62. RIX
    63 | May 16, 2012 4:57 pm

    @ Lily:

    Well you have to remember most women in Islam, according to Islam are evil and most will go to hell.

    They probably want to, if they think that the pious
    men are in Heaven.


  63. Guggi
    64 | May 16, 2012 4:57 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Comrade Zer0′s budget defeated 99 to squat in the dem controlled Senate.

    The question is: why was it defeated ? To much spending or not spending enough.


  64. heysoos
    65 | May 16, 2012 4:58 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    \
    wake me up when the election is over…I’ve lost interest


  65. Guggi
    66 | May 16, 2012 4:58 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Then hell it is for her. Good grief!

    Yuuuuup


  66. Lily
    67 | May 16, 2012 4:59 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Says a whole lot doesn’t it…even the democrats are running from him because they know he is one…

    One
    Big
    Ass
    Mistake
    America


  67. citizen_q
    68 | May 16, 2012 5:00 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    The UN’s goals are divergent from our own and have been since its founding. The “get the US out of the UN” campaign should be revived.

    Don’t forget the the UN out of the US part.

    MacDuff wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    Forget about the stout hemp rope; too damn slow.
    It’s time to nuke that failed experiment (mis)named the United Nations.

    One could ignite a Jet-A fueled fire on the bottom floor in order to prove to Roseanne, once and for all, that fire can really melt steel. Insure that the delegates are in the building so they can examine the evidence firsthand.

    LOL! Roseanne has never heard of blacksmithing.


  68. Lily
    69 | May 16, 2012 5:00 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Well you have to remember most women in Islam, according to Islam are evil and most will go to hell.

    They probably want to, if they think that the pious
    men are in Heaven.

    Good point.


  69. citizen_q
    70 | May 16, 2012 5:01 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    Nothing. She just gets to not go to hell apparently.
    No, no she gets her own husband again.

    Uhhhummmm….. That’s not hell?


  70. heysoos
    71 | May 16, 2012 5:02 pm

    do Christians and Muslims share hell?…do they get along?


  71. Lily
    72 | May 16, 2012 5:03 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Guggi wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    Nothing. She just gets to not go to hell apparently.
    No, no she gets her own husband again.

    Uhhhummmm….. That’s not hell?

    Yeah I came to that conclusion. ;)


  72. citizen_q
    73 | May 16, 2012 5:04 pm

    Of course all one has to do is look at the state of all of those living under the evil of islam to see that if allah did exist, he hates his muslim slaves.


  73. huckfunn
    74 | May 16, 2012 5:04 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    The question is: why was it defeated ? To much spending or not spending enough.

    Obama’s budget projected $6.4 trillion in new deficits by 2022. The thrifty GOP’s plan would only increase the deficit by between $2 and $3 trillion in the same amount of time :roll: . Also, even the dims are getting tired of Obammy’s schtick. He’s totally toxic to any dim congress critter looking for re-election.


  74. huckfunn
    75 | May 16, 2012 5:05 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Says a whole lot doesn’t it…even the democrats are running from him because they know he is one…

    One
    Big
    Ass
    Mistake
    America

    Indeed. His regime is imploding before our eyes. Good riddance to bad rubbish.


  75. Lily
    76 | May 16, 2012 5:05 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Yep they are jumping ship for sure.


  76. 77 | May 16, 2012 5:07 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    do Christians and Muslims share hell?…do they get along?

    As you’re an atheist, I assume your question is purely hypothetical.


  77. Lily
    78 | May 16, 2012 5:07 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Of course all one has to do is look at the state of all of those living under the evil of islam to see that if allah did exist, he hates his muslim slaves.

    By definition there is no love in Islam.
    /not saying individual people don’t feel love. But the book says very little about love.


  78. citizen_q
    79 | May 16, 2012 5:08 pm

    Lily wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    Guggi wrote:
    Lily wrote:
    Nothing. She just gets to not go to hell apparently.
    No, no she gets her own husband again.
    Uhhhummmm….. That’s not hell?

    Yeah I came to that conclusion.

    I’m still scratching my head over the celestial virgins with anvil shaped genitalia. anvil shaped? WTH?

    OTOH those virgins might actually be raisns?

    islam is the mad cow disease of the mind and soul.


  79. Lily
    80 | May 16, 2012 5:09 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Indeed. Plus the anvil shaped genitalia sounds more demon like than Heavenish.


  80. heysoos
    81 | May 16, 2012 5:10 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    all questions regarding religion are hypothetical…but I respect the theology…like, what happens to Pygmies that don’t know Jesus…do they burn in hell too?…if so, it seems a waste


  81. citizen_q
    82 | May 16, 2012 5:10 pm

    Lily wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    Of course all one has to do is look at the state of all of those living under the evil of islam to see that if allah did exist, he hates his muslim slaves.

    By definition there is no love in Islam.
    /not saying individual people don’t feel love. But the book says very little about love.

    There is a lot about deviant sex, slaves, murder, and booty.


  82. Da_Beerfreak
    83 | May 16, 2012 5:11 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    :twisted:


  83. Lily
    84 | May 16, 2012 5:12 pm

    @ heysoos:

    No…you will be judged on the amount you know and how you lived your life. This crosses all spectrums of religion.


  84. yenta-fada
    85 | May 16, 2012 5:13 pm

    OT. yay. one win! One billion to go.

    TORONTO: May 16, 2012 -- Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies (FSWC) supports the decision of the Toronto District School Board (TDSB) to pull the license of the East End Madrassah pending the results of an investigation by the York Region Police hate crimes unit.

    “We are pleased to note the TDSB has taken action in response to the alarming antisemitic hate taught to Muslim schoolchildren at Toronto’s East End Madrassah,” said Avi Benlolo, President and CEO of FSWC. “We hope the school board will now go one step further and put a plan in place to ensure no group is ever targeted as the Jewish community has been, and that ancient hatreds are never again endorsed and encouraged in Toronto classrooms,” he added.

    FSWC remains concerned that this type of anti-Jewish hate may be taught in other Islamic facilities in Ontario and welcomes any initiatives, such as a Task Force, by school boards to investigate and address all forms of racism and intolerance in our education system.


  85. heysoos
    86 | May 16, 2012 5:16 pm

    @ Lily:

    judged by whom?…what are the rules of life?…Christianity is a fairly new fangled thing…what happened to all the souls before Jesus and his prophets?


  86. Guggi
    87 | May 16, 2012 5:16 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    like, what happens to Pygmies that don’t know Jesus…do they burn in hell too?…

    goodwill non-Christians don’t burn in hell (however hell is defined)


  87. citizen_q
    88 | May 16, 2012 5:17 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Wow! what a slap down!


  88. 89 | May 16, 2012 5:20 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    all questions regarding religion are hypothetical…but I respect the theology…like, what happens to Pygmies that don’t know Jesus…do they burn in hell too?…if so, it seems a waste

    The answers depend on the religion and whether one believes in in a loving, or a vengeful God. Considering the evil that constantly manifests itself, I’d hate to think the we all just “wink out” equally at death. If Mother Theresa meets the same end as Hitler, there’s not much of point.


  89. 90 | May 16, 2012 5:22 pm

    @ Lily:

    Faggots….


  90. heysoos
    91 | May 16, 2012 5:23 pm

    do cats have a choice between heaven and hell?…what happens to animals, insects and the rest of gods creation?…I’ve had some nice pets…is there a program for them?


  91. 92 | May 16, 2012 5:23 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    الجميع يمارس الجنس مع بعقب!
    بعقب! بعقب! بعقب اللعنة!


  92. Alberta Oil Peon
    93 | May 16, 2012 5:24 pm

    @ Lily:
    If there was a famine in Hungary in the 1930s, it wasn’t Stalin’s doing. Hungary was not a part of the Communist Bloc at that time; it was independent.

    Stalin created his famine in Ukraine.


  93. yenta-fada
    95 | May 16, 2012 5:24 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Wow! what a slap down!

    They had solid evidence. The classroom texts were directly fron Iran.
    Simon Weisenthal Center is a great international group. Every single time the way these jihadists get exposure is a candle lit in the darkness that is islam.


  94. 96 | May 16, 2012 5:29 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    A few Trillion candles need to be lit on Islam.


  95. 97 | May 16, 2012 5:30 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    I hope she didn’t commit Suicide.


  96. NoThreat2U
    98 | May 16, 2012 5:31 pm

    @ Macker:
    “Candles” like the ones Wiley Coyote gets from ACME……BOOM!?


  97. Guggi
    99 | May 16, 2012 5:31 pm

    Macker wrote:

    I hope she didn’t commit Suicide.

    …but looks like as if…


  98. 100 | May 16, 2012 5:31 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    do cats have a choice between heaven and hell?…what happens to animals, insects and the rest of gods creation?…I’ve had some nice pets…is there a program for them?

    Faith, you either have it or you don’t. You don’t, and that’s fine, but ridicule is out of line.


  99. taxfreekiller
    101 | May 16, 2012 5:33 pm

    Some chance B. Obama does not know his ass from a hole in the gound.

    Some chance the commie Democrat Party is the hole in the gound.

    Keep looking B. O..


  100. huckfunn
    102 | May 16, 2012 5:33 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    I hope she didn’t commit Suicide.

    According to the report it was suicide.

    Police are currently at the home of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in New York after his wife Mary Kennedy was found dead Wednesday, RadarOnline.com has learned exclusively.

    The source says Mary committed suicide, but RadarOnline.com has yet to confirm that information and police have yet to make an official statement.


  101. Alberta Oil Peon
    103 | May 16, 2012 5:33 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    all questions regarding religion are hypothetical…but I respect the theology…like, what happens to Pygmies that don’t know Jesus…do they burn in hell too?…if so, it seems a waste

    Yeah, they do. But they get a discount, because they don’t leave such a big carbon footprint.


  102. taxfreekiller
    104 | May 16, 2012 5:34 pm

    Real Science is not fudging the numbers.

    End of story for the climate change cult of fudgers.


  103. NoThreat2U
    105 | May 16, 2012 5:34 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    *applause*


  104. huckfunn
    106 | May 16, 2012 5:35 pm

    taxfreekiller wrote:

    Some chance B. Obama does not know his ass from a hole in the gound.

    Some chance the commie Democrat Party is the hole in the gound.

    Keep looking B. O…

    … Obama Shave


  105. 107 | May 16, 2012 5:35 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Police At Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s House, His Wife Mary Dead At 52

    Kennedys attract this stuff like shit attracts flies and I don’t believe in coincidences.


  106. taxfreekiller
    108 | May 16, 2012 5:36 pm

    Some “cats” are rude, they often go to hell. @ heysoos:


  107. heysoos
    109 | May 16, 2012 5:36 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    seems that honest theology is out of line as well…I didn’t expect better tho….faith will get you just as dead as no faith…if that’s your A Game I’m hardly surprised…what is faith, but hoping for something you don’t understand…at least I’m personally on firm ground


  108. yenta-fada
    110 | May 16, 2012 5:36 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    do cats have a choice between heaven and hell?…what happens to animals, insects and the rest of gods creation?…I’ve had some nice pets…is there a program for them?
    Faith, you either have it or you don’t. You don’t, and that’s fine, but ridicule is out of line.

    I had the same thought. Ridicule is good against totalitarianism, but not when directed at fellow bloggers. It just drags everybody down.


  109. huckfunn
    111 | May 16, 2012 5:37 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    Police At Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s House, His Wife Mary Dead At 52

    Kennedys attract this stuff like shit attracts flies and I don’t believe in coincidences.

    They are a sick bunch. How would you like to pick a puppy from one of those litters?


  110. 112 | May 16, 2012 5:37 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Macker:
    “Candles” like the ones Wiley Coyote gets from ACME……BOOM!?

    Actually, the ones from Oppenheimer & Co. will do quite nicely!


  111. taxfreekiller
    113 | May 16, 2012 5:38 pm

    @ taxfreekiller:
    Like they say,,,”Well you know how he is.”
    If you get in the truck with him, your never know.
    If he says “you f’n talking to me.” Get the hell out of the way fast.


  112. yenta-fada
    114 | May 16, 2012 5:39 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Macker:
    “Candles” like the ones Wiley Coyote gets from ACME……BOOM!?

    meep meep! :-)


  113. taxfreekiller
    115 | May 16, 2012 5:41 pm

    grump out


  114. heysoos
    116 | May 16, 2012 5:41 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I’m not dragging anybody down…the folks that cannot answer the simple questions drag themselves down…I’m just curious…I only ridicule those that suppose I’m not as good as any Christian…faith, the final frontier


  115. NoThreat2U
    117 | May 16, 2012 5:42 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    :) Interesting conversation going on here…please continue folks.


  116. 118 | May 16, 2012 5:42 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    seems that honest theology is out of line as well…I didn’t expect better tho….faith will get you just as dead as no faith…if that’s your A Game I’m hardly surprised…what is faith, but hoping for something you don’t understand…at least I’m personally on firm ground

    I respectfully accept your lack of faith and you persist on ridicule; the issue seems to be yours, not mine.


  117. Lily
    119 | May 16, 2012 5:47 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ Lily:
    If there was a famine in Hungary in the 1930s, it wasn’t Stalin’s doing. Hungary was not a part of the Communist Bloc at that time; it was independent.

    Stalin created his famine in Ukraine.

    MacDuff wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    seems that honest theology is out of line as well…I didn’t expect better tho….faith will get you just as dead as no faith…if that’s your A Game I’m hardly surprised…what is faith, but hoping for something you don’t understand…at least I’m personally on firm ground

    I respectfully accept your lack of faith and you persist on ridicule; the issue seems to be yours, not mine.

    Internet was down for me. I corrected myself…or should I say guggi corrected me for my brain being off! ;)


  118. coldwarrior
    120 | May 16, 2012 5:49 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    atheists and agnostics have religion / faith as well. canons and dogma and sacraments, just like other religions.

    most of the time it manifests itself in poking at others faith to seem edgy and ironic and ‘oh so smart’.

    eventually, it just gets annoying and boring.


  119. Lily
    121 | May 16, 2012 5:51 pm

    @ heysoos:

    I am personally on firm ground too. So if you don’t believe that is your *gig*.


  120. yenta-fada
    122 | May 16, 2012 5:51 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    What you said. Nobody started dissing atheists and agnostics. I’m agnostic on agnostics. lol


  121. Lily
    123 | May 16, 2012 5:52 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Indeed CW….we all have free will to believe or not.


  122. heysoos
    124 | May 16, 2012 5:56 pm

    BO ran his 2008 campaign on faith…interesting…it seems the faith you choose makes a big difference…faith, the divider


  123. citizen_q
    125 | May 16, 2012 5:56 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    eventually, it just gets annoying and boring.

    This


  124. NoThreat2U
    126 | May 16, 2012 5:59 pm

    @ heysoos:
    That’s because BHO is just a man. Man needs faith in someone other then oneself. Your argument is stupid.


  125. 127 | May 16, 2012 6:00 pm

    OK, this is too funny… A Tribute Video dedicated to The Beasty Boy’s “Sabotage


  126. Lily
    128 | May 16, 2012 6:02 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Oh my!! ;)


  127. 129 | May 16, 2012 6:04 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    seems that honest theology is out of line as well…

    How would you know, you haven’t tried asking an honest question yet.


  128. heysoos
    130 | May 16, 2012 6:05 pm

    here’s a guy that forever preached the faith, then played the devils music on weekends…his music was a reflection of his preaching, he tears at his guitar as if he is pounding the pulpit…
    Son House
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI5tpnDuu5k&feature=related


  129. heysoos
    131 | May 16, 2012 6:07 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    is it dishonest to ask about heaven and hell?…since when?


  130. RIX
    132 | May 16, 2012 6:08 pm

    Ok, can’t make this up. The protesting yoots marched
    on the Bridgeport area of Chicago today.
    One of the concerned yoots was asked what their protest
    is about. She responded, “The kids are scared”
    When asked of what , she answered “the draft”
    We should listen to the children./


  131. Lily
    133 | May 16, 2012 6:09 pm

    @ RIX:

    Oh they are already gearing up are they? What draft???
    /good night in Georgia they are stuck on stupid aren’t they.


  132. Brick
    134 | May 16, 2012 6:10 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    eventually, it just gets annoying and boring.
    This

    Thank G-d I’m an atheist! oh, wait….

    So, hypothetical question for the night….

    If blue helmets are “invited” by the administration to oversee elections or help maintain order following some kind of non-national event…are they legitimate targets as a foreign occupying force or not?

    Good evening, all.


  133. 135 | May 16, 2012 6:11 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    is it dishonest to ask about heaven and hell?…since when?

    When the question, being asked by an avowed atheists, is not a question, but in fact a rhetorical aside intended to mock. You’re not as smart or clever as you suppose yourself to be, but you are without a doubt a intellectually dishonest and petulant child.


  134. Lily
    136 | May 16, 2012 6:12 pm

    @ Brick:

    Dear me…if blue helmets are invited I think this would be a big deal with our military. We don’t need blue helmets here on our soil we have our own military.


  135. NoThreat2U
    137 | May 16, 2012 6:13 pm

    @ Lily:
    Draft beer more than likely. What an idiot. I would shoot my kids if they were that stupid. lol


  136. Lily
    138 | May 16, 2012 6:14 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Draft beer more than likely. What an idiot. I would shoot my kids if they were that stupid. lol

    If my kids were that stupid I would have to slap myself and then slap them. ;)


  137. Lily
    139 | May 16, 2012 6:15 pm

    Oh and hey {{nt2u}}!!!! :)


  138. The Osprey
    140 | May 16, 2012 6:15 pm

    @ Brick:

    Depending on what country they are deployed from, blue helmets could be a good source for extra FN-FAL magazines. “Slot floppies”, Rhodesian style. :twisted:


  139. heysoos
    141 | May 16, 2012 6:15 pm

    forget the fake cammos, M16′s and blue helmets…when the UN comes for you, run the opposite direction…the UN is the worlds most renowned shakedown gig ever…I hate the UN with a passion even Zeus would be proud of


  140. 142 | May 16, 2012 6:16 pm

    Lily wrote:

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Draft beer more than likely. What an idiot. I would shoot my kids if they were that stupid. lol

    If my kids were that stupid I would have to slap myself and then slap them.

    If my children (if I had any) were that stupid, I would hit myself so hard it would leave bruises on my great grandchildren… :twisted:


  141. Brick
    143 | May 16, 2012 6:16 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    BO ran his 2008 campaign on faith…interesting…it seems the faith you choose makes a big difference…faith, the divider

    Divider? No. More like a postage stamp for your soul.

    Barack’s “faith” was never a question. It’s just that his envelope bears a distinctly different address than mine does.


  142. RIX
    144 | May 16, 2012 6:17 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Oh they are already gearing up are they? What draft???
    /good night in Georgia they are stuck on stupid aren’t they

    .

    And these are our future leaders.
    They really don’t understand why their degrees in
    Transgender Studies doesn’t get them the corner office
    & stock options.


  143. NoThreat2U
    145 | May 16, 2012 6:17 pm

    @ Lily:
    ….Which is why I endeavor on with the never ending process of teaching my kids what is going on these days.

    And {{{{Hello}}}} To you too Lily :) I hope this evening finds you well.


  144. coldwarrior
    146 | May 16, 2012 6:19 pm

    Brick wrote:

    If blue helmets are “invited” by the administration to oversee elections or help maintain order following some kind of non-national event…are they legitimate targets as a foreign occupying force or not?

    yes.

    extra points for head shots.

    ;)


  145. heysoos
    147 | May 16, 2012 6:20 pm

    @ RIX:

    Transgender Studies?…whoops
    try again you enlightened future of America…


  146. Lily
    148 | May 16, 2012 6:20 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Draft beer more than likely. What an idiot. I would shoot my kids if they were that stupid. lol

    If my kids were that stupid I would have to slap myself and then slap them.

    If my children (if I had any) were that stupid, I would hit myself so hard it would leave bruises on my great grandchildren…

    No kidding!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:


  147. RIX
    149 | May 16, 2012 6:20 pm

    Later Gators


  148. 150 | May 16, 2012 6:20 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    @ RIX:
    Oh they are already gearing up are they? What draft???
    /good night in Georgia they are stuck on stupid aren’t they
    .
    And these are our future leaders.
    They really don’t understand why their degrees in
    Transgender Studies doesn’t get them the corner office
    & stock options.

    Sigh, and the operative phrase their is…. “really don’t understand”…


  149. 151 | May 16, 2012 6:21 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    atheists and agnostics have religion / faith as well. canons and dogma and sacraments, just like other religions.
    most of the time it manifests itself in poking at others faith to seem edgy and ironic and ‘oh so smart’.eventually, it just gets annoying and boring.

    Most atheists do no such thing. Projecting the behavior of a noisy few on a whole group is not fair, and that’s exactly what you’re doing.


  150. 152 | May 16, 2012 6:21 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Brick wrote:
    If blue helmets are “invited” by the administration to oversee elections or help maintain order following some kind of non-national event…are they legitimate targets as a foreign occupying force or not?
    yes.
    extra points for head shots.

    Extra extra point’s for5 head shot that don’t put a hole in the helmet… :twisted:


  151. Lily
    153 | May 16, 2012 6:22 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Oh they are already gearing up are they? What draft???
    /good night in Georgia they are stuck on stupid aren’t they

    .

    And these are our future leaders.
    They really don’t understand why their degrees in
    Transgender Studies doesn’t get them the corner office
    & stock options.

    Take heart this isn’t how most of them think…at all! What you are seeing is the fringe element. My sons mock them for their ignorance and idoicy.


  152. Lily
    154 | May 16, 2012 6:24 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Doing well {nt2u}!! By the grace of God my daughter-in-law didn’t mis-carry the baby!! Good news indeed. :)


  153. NoThreat2U
    155 | May 16, 2012 6:24 pm

    @ Lily:
    Very good news Grammy :)


  154. coldwarrior
    156 | May 16, 2012 6:25 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    sure am.

    so sue me.

    (i did say often, not always…)


  155. Brick
    157 | May 16, 2012 6:25 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Brick:
    Dear me…if blue helmets are invited I think this would be a big deal with our military. We don’t need blue helmets here on our soil we have our own military.

    Let’s say the administration claims posse comitatus prevents them from using the military to aid in any kind of “restoration” efforts. This does 2 things. By citing posse comitatus it gives them “legal appearance” and also creates a supra “need.”

    Then what?


  156. The Osprey
    158 | May 16, 2012 6:27 pm

    Okay, so since this is a Monckton thread I will post this here too. (crossposted from DoD).

    I sense a connection to Ludwank Von Crank here: Climate Change = Holocaust Denial, Billions will die, etc.

    A professor at Brooklyn College recently published a series of articles on the official campus website in which he associated climate change skeptics with early Holocaust deniers.

    “I make my ‘climate change denier’ claim for one reason,” wrote Micha Tomkiewicz, the Director of Environmental Studies at Brooklyn College and himself a Holocaust survivor.

    “It’s easy today to teach students to condemn the Holocaust, but it’s much more difficult to teach them how to try to prevent future genocides…I don’t want my grandchildren to die in a climate change genocide that we could have helped head off,” he continued. Tomkiewicz, also warned that failure to take decisive action on global warming could result in the death of “billions of people.”

    H/T Free Republic http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2884568/posts


  157. coldwarrior
    159 | May 16, 2012 6:28 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Extra extra point’s for5 head shot that don’t put a hole in the helmet… :twisted:

    see, that is just showing off right there.


  158. Lily
    160 | May 16, 2012 6:28 pm

    Brick wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ Brick:
    Dear me…if blue helmets are invited I think this would be a big deal with our military. We don’t need blue helmets here on our soil we have our own military.

    Let’s say the administration claims posse comitatus prevents them from using the military to aid in any kind of “restoration” efforts. This does 2 things. By citing posse comitatus it gives them “legal appearance” and also creates a supra “need.”

    Then what?

    Very pissed off Americans! I pray that it doesn’t come to this though.
    /to be honest I don’t think they will be able to find any blue helmets that will actually come here because of our 2nd Amendment.
    Blue helmets tend to be on the pansy side.


  159. The Osprey
    161 | May 16, 2012 6:29 pm

    Oh that should be…

    Billions will die™


  160. 162 | May 16, 2012 6:29 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ MacDuff:
    atheists and agnostics have religion / faith as well. canons and dogma and sacraments, just like other religions.
    most of the time it manifests itself in poking at others faith to seem edgy and ironic and ‘oh so smart’.eventually, it just gets annoying and boring.
    Most atheists do no such thing. Projecting the behavior of a noisy few on a whole group is not fair, and that’s exactly what you’re doing.

    Yes, every religion has it’s assholes. One of my partners in the dragster is an Atheist, as is his wife, on occasion she the “taunt the religious” bug, while he is mortified by her behavior.

    Pete simply does not believe in the existence of God, but is not threatened in the slightest by those who do. I have quiet a few friends that are atheists, and the vast majority of them are like Pete, and feel no need what so ever to “Save” anyone from their belief in God, or to mock or ridicule them for it either.


  161. 163 | May 16, 2012 6:30 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Extra extra point’s for5 head shot that don’t put a hole in the helmet…
    see, that is just showing off right there.

    ROTFLMAO… Have ya looked closely at my avatar lately… :twisted:


  162. Lily
    164 | May 16, 2012 6:31 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    A climate change genocide?

    LOL! That is crazy if that is what they are afraid of…their brains have fallen out of their heads.


  163. coldwarrior
    165 | May 16, 2012 6:31 pm

    an interesting and funny and creative view of hell will be up at 1900 eastern tonight.

    just as a heads up


  164. yenta-fada
    166 | May 16, 2012 6:31 pm

    26 year old ice cream stand shut down by armed Environmental Police.

    http://www.lowellsun.com/todaysheadlines/ci_20635020/ice-cream-spot-hits-rocky-road


  165. coldwarrior
    167 | May 16, 2012 6:32 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    doriangrey wrote:
    Extra extra point’s for5 head shot that don’t put a hole in the helmet…
    see, that is just showing off right there.

    ROTFLMAO… Have ya looked closely at my avatar lately…

    indeed.


  166. heysoos
    168 | May 16, 2012 6:33 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    as for me, I gave Lud credit for being able to type fast…all else was shake


  167. 169 | May 16, 2012 6:34 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    26 year old ice cream stand shut down by armed Environmental Police.
    http://www.lowellsun.com/todaysheadlines/ci_20635020/ice-cream-spot-hits-rocky-road

    Come on Yenta, they HAD to do it, it was for the Children… Errr, actually is was because the Children’s lemonade Stands had already been shut down and they didn’t have anything else to do over Mother’s Day Weekend.

    Can you say… Obamanation Administration’s War on Women? No Ice Cream for you Mother’s on Mother’s Day…


  168. Lily
    170 | May 16, 2012 6:38 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Just insane!


  169. citizen_q
    171 | May 16, 2012 6:38 pm

    Lily wrote:

    /to be honest I don’t think they will be able to find any blue helmets that will actually come here because of our 2nd Amendment.
    Blue helmets tend to be on the pansy side.

    Also hard to rape the locals when they can fight back.


  170. coldwarrior
    172 | May 16, 2012 6:40 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    damned b’crats.

    we live everyday in a smaller and smaller space of compliance.

    do we get bonus points for b’crats as targets…i mean if they are standing near a blue helmet…

    :lol:


  171. NoThreat2U
    173 | May 16, 2012 6:40 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    LOL There would be a lot of blue helmets in the UN infirmary to get said helmets removed from their asses. lol


  172. Lily
    174 | May 16, 2012 6:40 pm

    Disgusting.

    Report: Mossad “Spy” Executed By Iran Was Outed By WikiLeaks…

    http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/16/report-mossad-spy-executed-by-iran-was-outed-by-wikileaks/


  173. Lily
    175 | May 16, 2012 6:41 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    /to be honest I don’t think they will be able to find any blue helmets that will actually come here because of our 2nd Amendment.
    Blue helmets tend to be on the pansy side.

    Also hard to rape the locals when they can fight back.

    Yeah they should be afraid of American women!!!


  174. NoThreat2U
    176 | May 16, 2012 6:42 pm

    @ Lily:
    Yes they should because we don’t hide behind our men, we like to be right there beside them kicking butt.


  175. Lily
    177 | May 16, 2012 6:43 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Yes they should because we don’t hide behind our men, we like to be right there beside them kicking butt.

    Damn straight with a shot gun in our hands to boot! ;)


  176. 178 | May 16, 2012 6:50 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    damned b’crats.
    we live everyday in a smaller and smaller space of compliance.
    do we get bonus points for b’crats as targets…i mean if they are standing near a blue helmet…

    Yup… Specially is yea get a two-fer… One b-crat, one Blue Helmet one bullet… :twisted:

    That thar ill gets ya a shot or two of Dickel‘s…


  177. Brick
    179 | May 16, 2012 6:54 pm

    The blue helmet topic came up some time last week with some people who like gaming this stuff, is why I asked. I said if I remember, I’ll try to front it up to a bunch of people smarter than I am. :)


  178. 180 | May 16, 2012 6:57 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    Mike C. wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ MacDuff:
    atheists and agnostics have religion / faith as well. canons and dogma and sacraments, just like other religions.
    most of the time it manifests itself in poking at others faith to seem edgy and ironic and ‘oh so smart’.eventually, it just gets annoying and boring.
    Most atheists do no such thing. Projecting the behavior of a noisy few on a whole group is not fair, and that’s exactly what you’re doing.
    Yes, every religion has it’s assholes. One of my partners in the dragster is an Atheist, as is his wife, on occasion she the “taunt the religious” bug, while he is mortified by her behavior.
    Pete simply does not believe in the existence of God, but is not threatened in the slightest by those who do. I have quiet a few friends that are atheists, and the vast majority of them are like Pete, and feel no need what so ever to “Save” anyone from their belief in God, or to mock or ridicule them for it either.

    Now see, that right there is an important point. Atheists come in two flavors; the first (often referred to as Type A or “Strong” atheists) would state “I believe there is/are no god/gods.” The second (often referred to as Type B or “Weak” atheists) would state “I do not believe there is/are a god/gods.” One might logically classify the first as a religion (since it is based on a belief regarding god/gods), but not the second. Saying that the second is a religion is akin to saying bald is a hair color.


  179. 181 | May 16, 2012 6:58 pm

    Brick wrote:

    The blue helmet topic came up some time last week with some people who like gaming this stuff, is why I asked. I said if I remember, I’ll try to front it up to a bunch of people smarter than I am.

    Blue Helmet’s on American Soil guarding Polling stations would pretty much guarantee a civil war right here and right now. Not to mention a lot of dead Blue Helmet’s.


  180. Buckeye Abroad
    182 | May 16, 2012 7:00 pm

    That Kennedy touch.

    Police were called to the home of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in New York after his wife Mary Kennedy was found dead Wednesday, RadarOnline.com has learned exclusively.

    A source says Mary committed suicide..

    Sorry for the 4 children.


  181. Lily
    183 | May 16, 2012 7:00 pm

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    That family is cursed.


  182. Buckeye Abroad
    184 | May 16, 2012 7:06 pm

    @ Lily:

    The Kennedy men do for women what Flavor Aid did for the Jonestown kids.


  183. Lily
    185 | May 16, 2012 7:07 pm

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    Indeed. Even the Kennedy men don’t seem to fair very well either.


  184. NoThreat2U
    186 | May 16, 2012 7:07 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    That family is cursed.

    You know what? I believe that. I really do. Maybe someone made a deal with the devil?


  185. coldwarrior
    187 | May 16, 2012 7:09 pm

    rodan want me to say: new thread

    how’d i do?


  186. 188 | May 16, 2012 7:10 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    Mike C. wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ MacDuff:
    atheists and agnostics have religion / faith as well. canons and dogma and sacraments, just like other religions.
    most of the time it manifests itself in poking at others faith to seem edgy and ironic and ‘oh so smart’.eventually, it just gets annoying and boring.
    Most atheists do no such thing. Projecting the behavior of a noisy few on a whole group is not fair, and that’s exactly what you’re doing.
    Yes, every religion has it’s assholes. One of my partners in the dragster is an Atheist, as is his wife, on occasion she the “taunt the religious” bug, while he is mortified by her behavior.
    Pete simply does not believe in the existence of God, but is not threatened in the slightest by those who do. I have quiet a few friends that are atheists, and the vast majority of them are like Pete, and feel no need what so ever to “Save” anyone from their belief in God, or to mock or ridicule them for it either.
    Now see, that right there is an important point. Atheists come in two flavors; the first (often referred to as Type A or “Strong” atheists) would state “I believe there is/are no god/gods.” The second (often referred to as Type B or “Weak” atheists) would state “I do not believe there is/are a god/gods.” One might logically classify the first as a religion (since it is based on a belief regarding god/gods), but not the second. Saying that the second is a religion is akin to saying bald is a hair color.

    And the problem is, that it is Type A, who most people encounter on the Internet. So they don’t have a lot of experience with Atheism’s silent majority. To be honest in does bug me when I run into the Type A’s on line, not because I’m a christian and their atheism frightens me, but because they make my friends who are Atheist’s look like assholes, when they are any but.

    Pete is one of my best friends, who just happens to be an Atheist, he is a good decent human being who doesn’t deserve to be tarred and feathered with the stereotypical image of the arrogant antagonistic Christian hating bully brush strokes that the Internet Type A atheist bullies get him painted with. It just isn’t fair.


  187. 189 | May 16, 2012 7:11 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    rodan want me to say: new thread
    how’d i do?

    You forgot the Derpa derpa… :twisted:


  188. Lily
    190 | May 16, 2012 7:11 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    That family is cursed.

    You know what? I believe that. I really do. Maybe someone made a deal with the devil?

    Like papa Joe Kennedy? I do believe he did.


  189. coldwarrior
    191 | May 16, 2012 7:14 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    rodan want me to say: new thread
    how’d i do?

    You forgot the Derpa derpa…

    DAMN!


  190. NoThreat2U
    192 | May 16, 2012 7:19 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Our very own Princess Natasha is an atheist. But she is always willing to accept well wishes and prayers from her Christian friends. And she has no problem delivering them either. It is the bullies that make most atheist look bad. Don’t like the cross on the hillside? Don’t look at it. But don’t force YOUR belief, or lack there of, on me.


  191. 193 | May 16, 2012 7:19 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    rodan want me to say: new thread
    how’d i do?
    You forgot the Derpa derpa…

    DAMN!

    It’s all right, you’ll get it next time, or not.. You think Rodan became a New Thread Super Star over night? Nooooo he earned it the old fashioned way, long hours patiently waiting for his victims to adapt that perfect “I just said something profound, deer caught in the headlight, look” and BAMMMMM…. New threadDerpa derpa:twisted:


  192. NoThreat2U
    194 | May 16, 2012 7:20 pm

    @ Lily:
    Yep! There is something profoundly wrong with that family. So much tragedy. The devil has come to claim payment.


  193. Lily
    195 | May 16, 2012 7:20 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Amen.


  194. Lily
    196 | May 16, 2012 7:20 pm

    @ NoThreat2U:

    Papa Joe was a very wicked man.


  195. 197 | May 16, 2012 7:24 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Yep! There is something profoundly wrong with that family. So much tragedy. The devil has come to claim payment.

    Ted Kennedy was at a Obama campaign event when struck down by the stroke that killed him. Obama walked beside Ted to the ambulance, and whispered something to Ted as they loaded him into the Ambulance. I’m guessing it was something to the effect of… Say hello to my Dad when you get to hell you old drunken murdering bastard…


  196. NoThreat2U
    198 | May 16, 2012 7:30 pm

    @ Lily:
    My mom had a book about the Kenndey clan a long time ago. I am sorry I never read it.

    @ doriangrey:
    More like “…now you can be my drunken bastard Dad’s best friend in hell”.


  197. 199 | May 16, 2012 7:33 pm

    NoThreat2U wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    More like “…now you can be my drunken bastard Dad’s best friend in hell”.

    Actually I was implying that Obama is the Anti-Christ, which would make Stan his father… :oops:


  198. darkwords
    200 | May 16, 2012 10:10 pm

    @ 116 heysoos: lolx2 “Faith the Final Frontier” Super Pac AD waiting to happen.


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